I used to defend Spotify, but after a number of reports revealing Daniel Eks and co. being corporate pigs, never again. The monopolist landscape needs to be razed.
@zealousie9 ай бұрын
Nah. The people need to unify globally and monopolize everything via capitalism by starting their own democratically operated social media corporation owned in equal share by all living humans in perpetuity. Then capitalism will end via the people problem-solving their way into an abundance state.
@caseyjones35229 ай бұрын
yeah no that's never going to happen. "The people" organizing is like herding cats.@@zealousie
@zealousie9 ай бұрын
Yeah.... if only they all didn't think exactly that. Then they could organize themselves.
@caseyjones35229 ай бұрын
we had Occupy Wall Street, that turned out great. But maybe musicians need a legit union like what happened with the Writers Strike. Well, problem is, people spend a lot more time watching Netflix than listening to Spotify so there's not quite enough leverage there.@@zealousie
@somethingsisee8 ай бұрын
Streaming is a rip off. Everything should be permanently downloadable.
@Fablebox9 ай бұрын
I still feel that Spotify and Apple Music are nothing more than modern day radio stations. They can help you get discovered, but that is all they are worth. Working on new ideas for releases, but great video!!!
@Yahushaislife9 ай бұрын
To the owners making billions of dollars it’s worth a lot more than that
@max-cs4pz9 ай бұрын
was quite the regular Joe Rogan consumer, but as I don't use Spotify a lot I hardly watched any Joe Rogan podcasts anymore... also because the best part of a KZbin podcast is the comment section, which is not available in spotify
@sanamih39449 ай бұрын
Loser
@myturningpoint9 ай бұрын
No matter what happens, the artists ALWAYS get shafted, without question.
@benjammin1051239 ай бұрын
Spotify disgusts me.
@AdamBrucass9 ай бұрын
Im curious as to why, if you don’t mind talking about it Realistically the way i see it, if an artist isnt big enough to bring listeners to their platform and get the number of streams it takes for Spotify to want to pay them, then their music holds no monetary value to Spotify and they shouldn’t be expected to pay for it, no other business in the world would be expected to buy a product they cant sell just on the principal of “but you paid a lot for that other item” even though that other item has sold 30m units, if anything spotify are doing independent artists a service and a favour by hosting their music on the platform even though it doesn’t do anything for them
@VikingGoblin9 ай бұрын
Rasing prices cant be that bad though, I feel like its realistically the only solution to Spotify having more profit and artists getting paid more per stream
@DamianKeyes9 ай бұрын
Fingers crossed the artists do get more 🙂🙂
@Ruinwyn9 ай бұрын
They do need to raise prices both to stay afloat and to be able to pay more per stream. Problem is of course that it will drop the number of subscribers and as a result the number of streams. The possibility that casual users move to a cheaper competitor or one that provides more than music (KZbin Premium +Music is about the same price, Amazon Prime is cheaper) and only the heavy users remain is also a big risk. Currently average Spotify user streams about 10 hours more (~26h) a week than YTM, Amazon, or Apple (~11-16h) user. If the rising prices makes it not worth the cost for those around that 10-15h mark and they switch, that gap will continue to grow. Users pay by month, but Spotify pays by stream.
@officialWWM9 ай бұрын
lol, what makes you think the artists will see any of that money? 😂
@DRUNKBEATZ9 ай бұрын
@@DamianKeyes dude come on, the CEO Daniel EK invests 100 Mil in a AI military firm called Helsing instead of giving af about artists. dont be naive here
@millennialanimal9 ай бұрын
Stop looking to the mainstream to treat you fairly, it will never happen.
@crawdad_smoker0019 ай бұрын
Y'know, the funny thing is....the only time I'm on Spotify lately is to listen to music. And really, only because my CD player doesn't work. I miss my record player and my vinyl. Soon.......
@DamianKeyes9 ай бұрын
I'm all in on vinyl! I love it!!🙂❤
@godbyone9 ай бұрын
I guess niel young threat didn’t work
@DamianKeyes9 ай бұрын
Yeah Maybe Neil Young will replace his Elk meat!
@drmacxofgod9 ай бұрын
I just like listening to Damian... music is so hard I forget the nuggets and just enjoy his video
@elationships9 ай бұрын
This is your best video yet. So insightful, so helpful. Love it.
@Javier23gol9 ай бұрын
People who criticize Spotify just don’t put your music out there 🤷🏻♂️
@ChrisHardyWorld9 ай бұрын
As far as I'm concerned, spotify can disappear altogether and I wouldn't be able to muster up one single fuck about it.
@BrotherWife9 ай бұрын
Think our Spotify might be Broken as well
@caseyjones35229 ай бұрын
Something is very sketchy with Spotify's books. There's got to be Hollywood accounting going on.
@riodejaneiro6649 ай бұрын
Damo as a newsman. He is looking out for all of us. Thank God. I'm so busy that I don't have the time to look out for myself. Music has always been a full time job even gor yhose what have full time jobs to support our music.
@MutableCell9 ай бұрын
Me and my band, Panspermial, we are putting our efforts on the Apple Music platform since last summer and with much better results.
@DamianKeyes9 ай бұрын
listening to your latest single now,, love the energy, it gives me some Primus vibes.. I love Primus!
@MutableCell9 ай бұрын
Thanks Damian, we appreciate your words! I follow your work always learning a lot through you! 🔥
@MA-wq2xc9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! Loved the long form format btw you posted before btw. Also, really waiting for the "how to release a single in 2024" 🙏
@bellemt9 ай бұрын
Daniel Ek has made 3x more money from music than Paul McCartney has…
@hrdcpy8 ай бұрын
They are pushing Joe Rogan HARD. He's now being promoting on my Spofity home screen ABOVE my daily mixes.
@OneDominion9 ай бұрын
Spotify should start its own festival. live music will always win.
@AdamBrucass9 ай бұрын
100% Its so easy to to get lost in the idea that streaming numbers is what you need to focus on for success, but if you want to get those numbers up what you should be doing is getting out in front of people and playing the songs live in place where people expect and look to hear new music, then use that exposure to get people to go and listen on spotify or another platform, so many people have it backwards
@OneDominion9 ай бұрын
@@AdamBrucass yup. oh whale ;) survival of the fittest! 😂
@OneDominion9 ай бұрын
@@AdamBrucass they would also be the biggest live platform for new artist
@SilverKen159 ай бұрын
live music sucks
@ArielX2K9 ай бұрын
Apple isn't any better, also being money hungry corporate monopolist swine. We need serious change, starting with the smashing of monopolies.
@matthughesrocks9 ай бұрын
It doesn't bother me.
@yllekjs769 ай бұрын
I wish they'd lose podcasts and audio books. I just want music
@SaeedAlsomali-u3n8 ай бұрын
Unreasonable expectations are a sure way to make yourself miserable. Let’s say you have a goal in mind, you’re thinking about how to attain it, you’re working toward accomplishing it, and you’re going to get some kind of reward in return for all of your work. The reward can be anything, really. Maybe you’re expecting something material like money. Maybe it’s not so material. Maybe you’re expecting something intangible like respect from a particular person or even a feeling of happiness and accomplishment. The problem with expectations is that none of them are particularly reasonable. An expectation is a hope in the future that you will get something that you want, and we don’t always get what we want. Sometimes we just get what we get. Sometimes we get nothing at all.
@TwistedIllusionUK9 ай бұрын
I don't remotely buy into this narrative that Daniel Ek is the bogeyman of the music industry. Guy is way ahead of the game. Spotify is a data company, it ain't a music company and never will be. The sooner musicians understand that the better.
@TheWorldsNo1Superstar9 ай бұрын
Love the filter! You make color look good Damien. We're busy working on the release of our upcoming album and videos to be worried about what happens to one streaming service. Let's Dance!!!
@DamianKeyes9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! I'm ready to dance... even if i dance like a dad!
@TheWorldsNo1Superstar9 ай бұрын
@@DamianKeyes Knowing you, You'll give us a show to remember for a lifetime! All the Best and Thank you, Thank you for the wisdom! We love learning from you!
@officialWWM9 ай бұрын
Why does it take so many people to run that company anyway? I mean, what the hell does everyone do all day?
@johnnypunish9 ай бұрын
My music art has gotten buried on Spotify. I get more interaction with fans on Soundcloud
@danmcbmusic9 ай бұрын
None of this is even slightly surprising. As I've been saying since several years, the business model was unsustainable from the start. After however many years of loss making because of that, shareholders are getting pissed and it is gonna get still more ugly because Ek is trying to bail a ship with so many holes, all he can do is start kicking the crew overboard.
@KyleValet9 ай бұрын
Ty Damian that was rocking........I think this spotify thing is a positive move forward for more quality art getting quality pay....you know no one listened to me when I was young MUCH less get fucking paid for it.....hell to the no!!!...get paid when your art is truly blossoming and your not just delivering production and banners....shit people can pay for.....Good song writing is supposed to be King!!!!
@BryanCooperOfficial9 ай бұрын
The Spotify business model, if there is such a thing, seems so short-termist to me. I may be missing some bigger picture here, but they seem to be making their strategy up as they go along. I wonder if we're witnessing the beginning of the end to music streaming.
@es45829 ай бұрын
Love what you’re saying! But Joe rogan don’t buy elk meat, he HUNTS it! 😤
@DamianKeyes9 ай бұрын
Lol Such a good point! That video of him shooting the Tesla Cyber Truck with his hunting crossbow was so cool!
@djangomclear_rocks9 ай бұрын
All indicators are signs of a bubble ... so, which alterantive platforms are there which do NOT follow the same buisness model? Bandcamp, soundcloud, youtube? When you consider 75% of peeps below 25 use soundcloud more than spotify this is ... telling
@Tomisloove9 ай бұрын
Hohooooooooo! Nice video Damo! Shit's goin' dooooown!
@codycriswell9 ай бұрын
When we look back in history to figure out why the music industry is absolute garbage, Spotify will be one of the most responsible.
@mikec.27259 ай бұрын
So now I understand why I won’t get my $0.0003
@ganjjabarsmedium23479 ай бұрын
Spotify needs a change in management
@evidennt9 ай бұрын
Time to move to Tidal and Apple music
@peterk35569 ай бұрын
I think spotify shadow banned me my streams dont count only followers
@SoundByVinny9 ай бұрын
Hello - I joined your programme ( very good so far!!) but i got charged twice - where can I get in contact to sort this error? Thanks again for all your content its top tier
@DamianKeyes9 ай бұрын
Hi there, I’m so sorry that has happened can you email Mirella and she can look into it for you. Her email is hello@dk-mba.com Great to have you on board, don’t forget to join the exclusive Facebook group and come say hi on one of the weekly live sessions. 😊😊
@SoundByVinny9 ай бұрын
Thank you @@DamianKeyes !
@Chronade9 ай бұрын
Spotify is here to stay. I know if I work very hard and intelligently, I'll succeed... I heard that to be little star is better than being a sweet unknown. So pass around the bottle, and we'll share our troubles, and love will save the day!🍺
@AdamBrucass9 ай бұрын
I think Spotify should just embrace basically being a record label, make it harder to get music on the platform by some kind of evaluation process so there isn’t 100,000 songs being released every day and it just might mean music may actually be worth something again, and they wouldn’t have to deal with independent artists demanding money for a product thats of no value to them In fact why not split the platform, make something akin to Soundcloud where anyone can upload anything they want but don’t expect to get paid for it, but then have it also be automatically submitted for consideration to be added to the paid site, like how you submit to their playlists
@christinebairdmusic9 ай бұрын
That’s a good idea in theory but the problem is that money will inevitably run the game. So, talented artists who deserve to be heard but maybe don’t have the money or connections won’t be able to cut through the threshold.
@caseyjones35229 ай бұрын
they can't do that, they signed a deal with the major labels that they wouldn't become a label.
@AdamBrucass9 ай бұрын
@@caseyjones3522 they wouldn’t have to be on paper, its not really all that far from what they’re doing now
@AdamBrucass9 ай бұрын
@@christinebairdmusic are you talking like an inevitable pay to submit situation? i guess i could see that happening, and i agree it wouldn’t be ideal, but as nice as it would be to live in a world where exposure and success goes to those who deserve it, thats never been the case, and i think i prefer it to the alternative of “when everyone’s a super hero, no one will be”
@christinebairdmusic9 ай бұрын
@@AdamBrucass I suppose I just mean… if it became a pay-to-play situation, the players with the biggest pockets would get to play the most… while many others would stay on the bench. It’s so hard to know what the right solution is 🤷🏼♀️
@CageFreeLowFatSugarFreeRange9 ай бұрын
An business that can be ran mostly AI is losing workers? No way jose
@Jz2CoolDude9 ай бұрын
@damiankeyes not to divert but here's a story flying under the radar whilst Spotify take the media heat. KZbin Music & Premium subscriptions nearly doubling in the new year. Our family KZbin sub is going from $17 to $32 here in Australia!!!
@shadowofpain81447 ай бұрын
The art of not asking any hard questions so people come on your show. No value talk simps have always eaten it up.
@midwestdepressed9 ай бұрын
not the BK lounge lmao #sweetandsoursauce
@DamianKeyes9 ай бұрын
😂 Best hashtag of the day!!!
@tomix1970pl19 ай бұрын
And all of them don't do any music and takes playlist place.
@SyntheticSentiment9 ай бұрын
I don't have much of an opinion about Spotify other than it is absolute garbage for most artists, but this is one of the funnier viddys I've seen from you.
@secretarchivesofthevatican9 ай бұрын
From the very first day they existed it was pointed out that Spotify (and all the other streamers) have an intrinsically doomed business model. Whatever percentage of their income is distributed to rights holders is eternally diluted as 100,000 new tracks get added each day to streaming services. They can choose to not pay for half of the music...but new music is still being added and diluting the pot every day. They'll hit the same financial buffers again a few months down the line. It literally is unsustainable. Ek is a very bad businessman. An entirely new business model is required.
@DamianKeyes9 ай бұрын
It does seem like the days of these businesses that rely on growth and income instead of profit have huge issues now that money isn't as cheap as it was. I liken it to someone tripping over something. They know they are going to fall but they make it worse by starting to run in order to balance. This just prolongs the fall and makes the collision worse.
@Ruinwyn9 ай бұрын
I think Spotify can't really survive as is, and isn't in very good position to change enough to survive. Most other streaming services are in better position and can survive by bundling with other services for higher price or reduced service.
@AdamBrucass9 ай бұрын
Its almost like a Ponzi scheme in that respect, i think they should just be more selective about what music makes it on to the platform, effectively like a record label but without fully becoming one
@NickKizirnis9 ай бұрын
Joe Rogan Elk Meat ... how long before we see that band on Spotify (or BandCamp)
@willievaughn64749 ай бұрын
God bless you, thank you for the update, Galatians 6:9
@CoachellaAngel9 ай бұрын
JRE is going on X
@Bradleybrookwood9 ай бұрын
I wish there was a way that I could get somebody to write me some original songs to sing. I'm a singer trying to break into the music industry and would love to collaborate with other people
@arismakaronas44699 ай бұрын
First upload some short videos of your singing, it doesn't have to be anything fancy, just so that people get an idea of your voice
@NickKizirnis9 ай бұрын
Thanks Damian, really good update ... as much of a giant as Spotify is, somehow it feels like what they are going for might not be sustainable. But pls not Musk pls ...
@Melinaviolino9 ай бұрын
Wow… this is the kind of gossip that I like
@kdakan9 ай бұрын
KZbin with an adblocker is more than all I need to listen to any music I like. I even don't bother to upload my music on paid platforms that don't pay me, at least KZbin is free for people who don't want to pay, I don't feel I'm ripped off by the platform this way.
@gavmurray73989 ай бұрын
youtube placed an add in russian on this video for me 🤣
@KazGamble9 ай бұрын
Joe Rogan Elk meat so expensive! 😂
@jacksp8de9 ай бұрын
I think they gave Rogan 150 to 200 million
@DamianKeyes9 ай бұрын
I did read that, if they did that again, that deal alone would be 5 times the profit they recorded (for the first time) last quarter. Madness!
@jacksp8de9 ай бұрын
@@DamianKeyes it’s wild lol no wonder they came up with a threshold for artists 🤦🏾♂️
@wfmeredith9 ай бұрын
Urgggh i dont know what to make of this!
@DamianKeyes9 ай бұрын
Yeah Spotify is such an interesting beast.
@thevictorapochi9 ай бұрын
This is bad news. I doubt Elon Musk is going to buy Spotify. I think she'll get back on her feet again. Let's give her some time.
@DamianKeyes9 ай бұрын
I think you are right, it will be interesting to see how they deal with the podcast up coming issue and whether they lean in or out of it 🙂🙂
@thevictorapochi9 ай бұрын
@@DamianKeyes,I hope they learn from it. I'm an upcoming musician. I want to benefit from what the music stars have benefited.
@DRUNKBEATZ9 ай бұрын
Im getting Big boomer vibes…
@DamianKeyes8 ай бұрын
Maybe... but a boomer who is winning 🙂🙂
@United_Wings9 ай бұрын
😮wow
@DamianKeyes9 ай бұрын
Indeed!
@thesuncollective14759 ай бұрын
Elon will eff it up !🤣100. Demolition Man!
@DamianKeyes9 ай бұрын
lol I think you are right! 🙂🙂
@DudeSilad9 ай бұрын
I guess you're a wokey left winger. He took over Twitter which didn't make any money. At all. He's got spacehips. I'm pretty sure he knows what he's doing. And he's got huge support amongst us normal folk.
@dra31529 ай бұрын
Imagine Daniel Ek selling Spotify to Elon Musk 😂
@StratsRUs6 ай бұрын
Rogan is a sad representation of what is happening to the world.
@TomBretonOfficial9 ай бұрын
omg this was hilarious lmao!
@antonhow8019 ай бұрын
Imagine what they could have done for artists with that podcast budget 🥱
@ginnyveeofficial9 ай бұрын
I'm getting way better organic success on Apple - especially since Spotify seem to be getting more restrictive. I'm switching all my efforts to Apple I think
@DamianKeyes9 ай бұрын
Very interesting. I think I should do a video about Apple and the pro's and cons! Thanks for letting me know! 🙂🙂
@ginnyveeofficial9 ай бұрын
Just seems way more "organic" - I've never pushed anything to it and well.. it just keeps organically growing @@DamianKeyes be great to see a video on this - looking forwards to if you do one !!
@Mavesound9 ай бұрын
I find it so hard to perform well on apple
@ginnyveeofficial9 ай бұрын
@@Mavesound It's odd ... it just suddenly started to go up - no push - I think - and think only that I got a ton of Shazams because I did a the remake of Flashdance with Irene Cara ... and that may have triggered the start of it (but that was Austria) - but most of the views are USA, UK, Mexico - not markets I've pushed my music heavily to. I just can't explain it
@SilverKen159 ай бұрын
Hating on Elon for owning X while Threads lost 98% of it's user interactions in the same Quarter is WILDDDDDDD