Why St George Is The Best Patron Saint

[@highdownmartin]

A lot to admire in Al's construction and delivery. Masterclass in character comedy. Fuckiin class!

tbh I always thought he was unfunny tosser, each to their own

[@london_james]

It's great when you see him out of character. Shows how well he does it

[@DarrenHarrison7160]

@ Ok, wondering why you're here????

[@petyrkowalski9887]

He is bloody clever and funny. Love him.

[@Joseg19988426]

I just love the fact that this guy is constantly having a pint whenever he’s on stage.

[@TheMijman]

Funny thing is, he's incredibly bright. And very well educated. The whole "pub landlord" is a total act, and I wouldn't put it past him for it to not be real beer.

[@pauldavison3426]

@@TheMijman I'd almost guarantee it isn't. Imagine doing a tour lasting months on end, drinking every night? Its what killed a lot of the comedians from the 60's and 70's

[@vespamorelli7090]

It’s a prop that doesn’t contain alcohol. He is questioned about it all the time. He just acts that way as his persona. He’s an extremely intelligent guy when not “ in character “

[@AUSSIETAIPAN]

I'm bothered by the fact that there's a Fosters tap there.

[@ThatsViews]

He's really a very posh sounding public schoolboy.

[@patriciahiddings3273]

He kicked the shit out of someone to impress a bird! And he did it while on holiday in the mediterranean! Lol

[@footiecyclo]

lmfao

[@dizzygunner]

yes, i too watched the video.

[@jack36afc18]

“St George is your ultimate down to earth British bloke” Some smartass in the crowd - “no he wasn’t” Don’t think he quite realises the whole thing is a piss take

[@patrickbrunsdon6318]

Well I don’t think that you are very good judge as to why he said that, it’s all in the game that you know! (Youngsters nowadays bloody hell do they want everything explained to them.

[@jack36afc18]

Patrick Brunsdon he was clearly ready to be a smartass and say “ohh but St George wasn’t even British”

[@deslawson2662]

@@jack36afc18 he was latvian

[@garethwigglesworth8187]

He does his shows in London. London is not England anymore. The rich live in the centre and the ghettos surround it. Say no more

[@jack36afc18]

Gareth Wigglesworth what on earth does that have to do with my comment? Besides he tours all over the country

[@winstonstone]

St Patrick drove the snakes out Ireland. St. David drove the vowels out of the Welsh language. St. Andrew drove the cuisine out of Scotland. And St. George drove humility out of the English.

[@mrblue193]

Not much to choose between Scottish and Irish cuisine really. Basically just a choice between turnips or potatos.

[@Cheezsoup]

​@@mrblue193 ...and Chicken tikka masala ('invented' in Glasgow)

[@marvinc9994]

"drove humility out of the English" Well, let's face it: we English never had much need for Humility, anyway. We have so little to be 'humble' about...............................unlike those poor folk in 'less happier lands' (to quote Our Bill).

[@winstonstone]

@@marvinc9994 LOL

[@marvinc9994]

@@winstonstone Thank GOD for another guy with a Sense of Humour ! (Are we a Species in decline, though ?)

[@gordonlawrence1448]

The story of St George is a classic case of how the truth can be understood in one era but completely misunderstood in another. IE The Dragon was Diocletian who had a dragon as his battle standard and was Emperor at the time. George"Slew" the dragon this does not imply killing in the original tales. What happened is St George was a Pretorian Guard and Diocletian had decreed anyone in Rome that believed in Christ was to be put to death. When Diocletian's wife saw how calmly St George went to his death she too became a Christian and due to politics etc at the time Diocletian had to have her put to death. He was never the same again and lasted less than a year as Emperor after that.

[@aclark903]

A dragon is merely a dinosaur with a bad breath problem. 😀 And Satan of course. See the Book of Revelation.

[@michaelking9818]

Wow thanks for that

[@Wolf36181]

​@@aclark903if dragons are satan... Well satan just got a whole lot cooler. Dragons are cool, dragons are satan, satan is cool :)

[@aclark903]

@@Wolf36181 It don’t work like that bro. Satan sure WANTS you to think he’s cool. Be very careful whose side you are on. God wants you in heaven, Satan wants you as his slave in hell.

[@garrymackenzie309]

“Lights out for the big lizard... “ 😂😂😂

[@johnny5805]

How Al has come up with such fantastic material for The Guv for 20 years is incredible !

[@dodruaidh9146]

The George and the Dragon theme is widespread. Catalonia, parts of Portugal, Georgia, and others. In fact, the warrior or hero figure defeating or banishing the dragon or serpent figure is widespread the world over, from St Patrick in Ireland, Fáfnir (the mythical dragon) who was slain by Sigurd in Scandinavia, to Ninurta in Mesoptamia, and many more.

[@sebastianvella8992]

I am Maltese and when he said 'St.George was from Malta' it was really funny. Of course St. George was not from Malta ,but the joke is that Malta for the British is known as the 'George Cross island' for having been awarded a George Cross medal for resisting the hundreds of air raids by the German and Italian airforces during World War Two. This is a well known fact in Britain and it often gets asked in many TV quizes. Now people not from Malta or the British Isles might not have got that joke but for me it was simply hilarious like the whole of this sketch.

[@marvinc9994]

"might not have got that joke" Indeed - rather like when Al informed his audience that we British 'invented' Gravity (cue puzzled reaction on KZbin reactor's face) !!

[@sebastianvella8992]

@@marvinc9994 Yes cause Newton who was English discovered the laws of gravity.

[@marvinc9994]

@@sebastianvella8992 "Newton " Er, yes, Sebastian: being English myself, I _was_ already aware of that fact, Mate ;-)

[@sebastianvella8992]

@@marvinc9994 I had no doubt you knew , but I would not bet a cent all the English know this fact. However, joking apart you English gave a lot to this World and you should be very proud of your country.

[@marvinc9994]

@@sebastianvella8992 "you English gave a lot to this World " Yep - including the Computer and the World Wide Web. I expect we'll find a use for them some day ;-)

[@AnnabellaRedwood]

Lights out for the big lizard! British Gold!!!!!!! 😂😂😂

[@JaySmurkzTV]

Al’s without doubt one of the best ever

[@tasoskoyt]

Saint George (Greek: Γεώργιος, Geṓrgios; Latin: Georgius; d. 23 April 303[4]) was a soldier of Cappadocian Greek origins, member of the Praetorian Guard for Roman emperor Diocletian, who was sentenced to death for refusing to recant his Christian faith. He became one of the most venerated saints and megalo-martyrs in Christianity, and he has been especially venerated as a military saint since the Crusades. In hagiography, as one of the Fourteen Holy Helpers and one of the most prominent military saints, he is immortalised in the legend of Saint George and the Dragon. His memorial, Saint George's Day, is traditionally celebrated on 23 April. (See under "Feast days" below for the use of the Julian calendar by the Eastern Orthodox Church.) Greek version The most complete version of the fifth century Greek text survives in a translation into Syriac from about 600. From text fragments preserved in the British Library a translation into English was published in 1925. In the Greek tradition, George was born to Greek Christian parents, in Cappadocia. His father died for the faith when George was fourteen, and his mother returned with George to her homeland of Syria Palaestina. A few years later, George's mother died. George travelled to the capital Nicomedia and joined the Roman army.[14] George was persecuted by one Dadianus. In later versions of the Greek legend, this name is rationalized to Diocletian, and George's martyrdom is placed in the Diocletian persecution of AD 303. The setting in Nicomedia is also secondary, and inconsistent with the earliest cultus of the saint being located in Diospolis.[15] George was executed by decapitation before Nicomedia's city wall, on 23 April 303. A witness of his suffering convinced Empress Alexandra of Rome to become a Christian as well, so she joined George in martyrdom. His body was returned to Lydda for burial, where Christians soon came to honour him as a martyr. Latin version The Latin Acta Sancti Georgii (6th century) follows the general course of the Greek legend, but Diocletian here becomes Dacian, Emperor of the Persians. George lived and died in Melitene in Cappadocia. His martyrdom was greatly extended to more than twenty separate tortures over the course of seven years. Over the course of his martyrdom, 40,900 pagans were converted to Christianity, including the empress Alexandra. When George finally died, the wicked Dacian was carried away in a whirlwind of fire. In later Latin versions, the persecutor is the Roman emperor Decius, or a Roman judge named Dacian serving under Diocletian.

[@josephrichards1396]

taskout chill

[@tasoskoyt]

@@josephrichards1396 i chill no worries

[@SoFkwHat80]

That was the other St. George .

[@tasoskoyt]

@Seoirse plummer Yes I know this is a comedy and I enjoy it.

[@tasoskoyt]

@Seoirse plummer or you should get a life.

[@Alex-jc7eo]

St George’s cross was the flag of Genoa, a powerful Italian city state with a strong fleet and I think English ships started using it to sail safely in the Mediterranean in the late medieval 🏰 period.

[@peter9180]

Italian comment?

[@andrewvictor1865]

Absolutely correct and statuettes of St George still adorn walls in Genova. The Crusaders would travel to Genova and then take ship either on a Genovese vessel or would pay to be bale to fly the Genovese flag which meant they would not be attacked.

[@johnsargeant4797]

I never believed in dragons until I saw Nicola Sturgeon on the telly.

[@icdgyixify]

Saint George is the best because his flag pisses off Emily Thornberry.

[@icdgyixify]

@GazB85 Surely you do not mean those dreadful working class people?

[@Normalguy1690]

GazB85 what’s wrong with flying it on your home 24/7 it’s there country they can.

[@shaunusmaximus6399]

@GazB85 i know, how dare people be patriotic

[@phill633vgs]

normal guy *their

[@aroutledge9565]

Non European hybrids get offended, this is 2019 we go by peoples feelings now

[@GarrettCroslin]

America actually does have a few patron saints. Saint Coors, Saint Bush, Saint Budweiser, and Saint Angry Orchard to name a few.

[@AK-pn1td]

Garrett Croslin saint Jack Daniels patron saint of Tennessee. He’s got me through many bad nights 😂. Though he also got me into a few bless him 🤣

[@josephrichards1396]

Garrett Croslin Budweiser is actually a beer from Budva, Montenegro

[@elizabethtaylor9321]

Garrett Croslin And now St Trump, about to slay the dragon pelosie !

[@taylorprocker]

Saints Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln and Trump. Amen

[@philiphawley2915]

St Trump?

[@JoeLisle]

Thanks for the daily uploads

[@davidgifford8112]

JoeyLisle I’m so sorry, that sounds rather sad.

[@terryhodges9416]

Bloody classic guy his jokes are brilliant come to New Zealand 🇳🇿 big Al boy

[@greaterforce3981]

Bald brothers

[@stoopidloopid]

Just home from the DeMont in Leicester. Epic show. Laughed all the way thru.

[@josephrichards1396]

To be fair... He’s not wrong

[@paulgathercole2601]

He never is!

[@RevGary]

WRONG. Andrew best of all saints he actually existed Scotland best nation in the Union followed by Northern Ireland then Taffyland and Pommieville last equal full of poofy Morris dancers ffs ;-)

[@josephrichards1396]

Gary from GLASGOW god bless the Scotts my fav brits apart from the beautiful English of course

[@snoozy3085]

@@RevGary Andrew wasn't born in Scotland and never went there. David was the only one from his country

[@heliotropezzz333]

@@RevGary At least they don't wear skirts like your lot.

[@silversnake138]

I'm from Malta not St George 😅 He is believed to be born in Cappadocia, Turkey

[@rosiehighqueenofall5046]

Al Murray predicted Godzilla vs Kong “lights out for the big lizard”

[@Kitiwake]

The legend is that Saint George was a Catholic soldier in the Roman army and the story grew within the Byzantine tradition when the legend was adopted by crusaders and brought back to a newly conquered England.

[@philthornton1382]

Which crusaders conquered England?

[@Swift-mr5zi]

Richard the lionheart descended from alfed the great

[@templarmalta9946]

I love this bloke. What's best about it is that if you don't understand history you don't get the jokes.

[@AdstarAPAD]

Interesting tidbit of information.. St George is also the patron saint of Ethiopia..

[@count7340]

And Portugal, if memory serves

[@charleschuckfinley3304]

AdstarAPAD and was from what is now Turkey

[@AdstarAPAD]

@@charleschuckfinley3304 He was such an international guy.. :)

[@RevGary]

Welsh Ethiopian can never tell em apart nowadays

[@nikolajankovic96]

And Russia

[@brostoevsky22]

St. George is also the patron saint of Russia. The Moscow city flag the image of St. George killing a dragon. It's pretty badass looking.

[@davidpenney2334]

Al , don't forget the pint is a pound and a quarter in weight. 1 lb , 4 ounces....or 20 fluid ounces.... 8 pints, equals one gallon. Which is 10 pounds in weight...( lbs) which is sort for libre, ( Latin for pound )

[@adrianmaycroft6483]

Love England........St George in my heart !

[@mattiasfaldt1725]

Saint George cross is a beautiful flag

[@utopiandreamer5288]

As a 'Jock', I fucking love this guy!! No pc bs with Al!!

[@AbsoluteAbsurd]

I screamed when he asked for the Irish and its like so early in the morning, probably woke up everyone in the area LOL

[@Yannis1a]

Fun fact the patron saint of all the American nations is the Virgin Mary and each nation has a variation of her name, in the USA is "Our lady of Immaculate Conception"

[@woodlefoof2]

What are you on about? Our patron saint is Christopher Columbus

[@paul_the_merciful]

Saint Al .. A down to earth common sense, no nonsense saint with a whiff of brut aftershave ..lol

[@prizegotti]

Saint George was a Palestinian who was one of the top officers in the Roman Empire under the rule of Diocletian, and funnily enough, he did lay down his life for Jesus, when Diocletian banned religion, George refused to give up his Christian faith, and took the death penalty as a result.

[@RevGary]

Mythical

[@dashingdahlias8873]

"Does America have a patron saint?" "Depends on if you're asking a Mormon"

[@dcmastermindfirst9418]

Mormonism is a just a cheap imitation of Christianity

[@lazyhazeldaisy9596]

Richard 1 adopted St. George as his patron saint in the twelfth century and it became England's flag, it just seemed to have stuck!

[@Artaxian_Debacle]

0:13 yes the Immaculate Conception

[@odysseusrex5908]

Although the legend of St George as it has come down to us is obviously based on the classical myth of Perseus and Andromeda, I have often wondered if there might not have been some actual event involving a Nile crocodile.

[@Infinitebrandon]

This guy pretty good. Long live prince George if he got honor and humor like al. I'll drink to that

[@shinigamitenshi2204]

Im doing this for no reason ok just don’t question me Saint David (Welsh: Dewi Sant; Latin: Davidus; c. 500 - c. 589) was a Welsh bishop of Mynyw (now St Davids) during the 6th century. He is the patron saint of Wales. David was a native of Wales, and a relatively large amount of information is known about his life. His birth date, however, is uncertain: suggestions range from 462 to 512.[1] He is traditionally believed to be the son of Saint Non and the grandson of Ceredig ap Cunedda, king of Ceredigion.[2] The Welsh annals placed his death 569 years after the birth of Christ,[3] but Phillimore's dating revised this to 601.[4] His best-known miracle is said to have taken place when he was preaching in the middle of a large crowd at the Synod of Brefi: the village of Llanddewi Brefi stands on the spot where the ground on which he stood is reputed to have risen up to form a small hill. A white dove, which became his emblem, was seen settling on his shoulder. John Davies notes that one can scarcely "conceive of any miracle more superfluous" in that part of Wales than the creation of a new hill.[6] David is said to have denounced Pelagianism during this incident and he was declared archbishop by popular acclaim according to Rhygyfarch,[7] bringing about the retirement of Dubricius. St David's metropolitan status as an archbishopric was later supported by Bernard, Bishop of St David's, Geoffrey of Monmouth and Gerald of Wales. The Monastic Rule of David prescribed that monks had to pull the plough themselves without draught animals,[5] and must drink only water and eat only bread with salt and herbs.[8] The monks spent their evenings in prayer, reading and writing. No personal possessions were allowed: even to say "my book" was considered an offence. He lived a simple life and practised asceticism, teaching his followers to refrain from eating meat and drinking beer. His symbol, also the symbol of Wales, is the leek (this inspires a reference in Shakespeare's Henry V, Act V scene 1) : Fluellen: "If your Majesty is remembered of it, the Welshmen did good service in a garden where leeks did grow, wearing leeks in their Monmouth caps, which your Majesty knows, to this hour is an honourable badge of the service, and I do believe, your Majesty takes no scorn to wear the leek upon Saint Tavy's day". King Henry: "I wear it for a memorable honour; for I am Welsh, you know, good countryman". Connections to Glastonbury Rhigyfarch counted Glastonbury Abbey among the churches David founded.[9] Around forty years later William of Malmesbury, believing the Abbey older, said that David visited Glastonbury only to rededicate the Abbey and to donate a travelling altar including a great sapphire. He had had a vision of Jesus who said that "the church had been dedicated long ago by Himself in honour of His Mother, and it was not seemly that it should be re-dedicated by human hands". So David instead commissioned an extension to be built to the abbey, east of the Old Church. (The dimensions of this extension given by William were verified archaeologically in 1921). One manuscript indicates that a sapphire altar was among the items Henry VIII of England confiscated from the abbey during the Dissolution of the Monasteries a thousand years later. Though the exact date of his death is not certain, tradition holds that it was on 1 March, which is the date now marked as Saint David's Day.[10] The two most common years given for his death are 601 and 589. The monastery is said to have been "filled with angels as Christ received his soul". His last words to his followers were in a sermon on the previous Sunday. The Welsh Life of St David gives these as, "Arglwydi, vrodyr, a chwioryd, Bydwch lawen a chedwch ych ffyd a'ch cret, a gwnewch y petheu bychein a glywyssawch ac a welsawch gennyf i. A mynheu a gerdaf y fford yd aeth an tadeu idi",[11] which translates as, "Lords, brothers and sisters, Be joyful, and keep your faith and your creed, and do the little things that you have seen me do and heard about. And as for me, I will walk the path that our fathers have trod before us." "Do ye the little things in life" ("Gwnewch y pethau bychain mewn bywyd") is today a very well known phrase in Welsh. The same passage states that he died on a Tuesday, from which attempts have been made to calculate the year of his death. David was buried at St David's Cathedral at St Davids, Pembrokeshire, where his shrine was a popular place of pilgrimage throughout the Middle Ages. During the 10th and 11th centuries the Cathedral was regularly raided by Vikings, who removed the shrine from the church and stripped off the precious metal adornments. In 1275 a new shrine was constructed, the ruined base of which remains to this day (see photo), which was originally surmounted by an ornamental wooden canopy with murals of David, Patrick and Denis. The relics of David and Justinian of Ramsey Island were kept in a portable casket on the stone base of the shrine. It was at this shrine that Edward I came to pray in 1284. During the reformation Bishop Barlow (1536-48), a staunch Protestant, stripped the shrine of its jewels and confiscated the relics of David and Justinian. David's popularity in Wales is shown by the Armes Prydein of around 930, a popular poem which prophesied that in the future, when all might seem lost, the Cymry (Welsh people) would unite behind the standard of David to defeat the English; "A lluman glân Dewi a ddyrchafant" ("And they will raise the pure banner of Dewi"). David is said to have played a role in spreading Christianity on the continent, inspiring numerous place names in Brittany including Saint-Divy, Saint-Yvi and Landivy. David's life and teachings have inspired a choral work by Welsh composer Karl Jenkins, Dewi Sant. It is a seven-movement work best known for the classical crossover series Adiemus, which intersperses movements reflecting the themes of David's last sermon with those drawing from three Psalms. An oratorio by another Welsh composer Arwel Hughes, also entitled Dewi Sant, was composed in 1950. Saint David is also thought to be associated with corpse candles, lights that would warn of the imminent death of a member of the community. The story goes that David prayed for his people to have some warning of their death, so that they could prepare themselves. In a vision, David's wish was granted and told that from then on, people who lived in the land of Dewi Sant (Saint David) "would be forewarned by the dim light of mysterious tapers when and where the death might be expected". The colour and size of the tapers indicated whether the person to die would be a woman, man, or child.[14] David was officially recognised at the Holy See by Pope Callixtus II in 1120, thanks to the work of Bernard, Bishop of St David's. Music for his Liturgy of the Hours has been edited by O. T. Edwards in Matins, Lauds and Vespers for St David's Day: the Medieval Office of the Welsh Patron Saint in National Library of Wales MS 20541 E (Cambridge, 1990). David was also canonized by the Eastern Orthodox Church at an unknown date. Over 50 churches in South Wales were dedicated to him in pre-Reformation days.[5] In the 2004 edition of the Roman Martyrology, David is listed under 1 March with the Latin name Dávus. He is recognised as bishop of Menevia in Wales who governed his monastery following the example of the Eastern Fathers. Through his leadership, many monks went forth to evangelise Wales, Ireland, Cornwall and Armorica (Brittany and surrounding provinces).[12] The restored Shrine of Saint David was unveiled and rededicated by the Right Reverend Wyn Evans, Bishop of St David's, at a Choral Eucharist on Saint David's Day, 2012. A broadside ballad published around 1630 claimed that the Welsh wore a leek in their hats to commemorate a battle fought on St David's Day. So as to recognise friend from foe, the Welsh had pulled up leeks from a garden and put them in their hats, before going on to win the battle.[13] I just copied and pasted because I can’t remember it all

[@deathorb]

wowsers penny....

[@petervick4775]

Classic!!!

[@nacholibre1962]

0:10 Saint Elmer (last name Fudd!)

[@pheasantpluckersson2138]

Is St George not also a Turkish, German and Latvian saint

[@fenhen]

hruutu He saying George is their Saint, not that George was Turkish.

[@KusacUK]

Patron saint of Moscow as well, if I remember rightly.

[@philt4346]

come off it, you'll be telling us santa claus is Russian next

[@Didntwanttomakeauser]

Patron saint of catalalonia too

[@smithshinepoetrywordpressc6634]

And Soldier's

[@marvinc9994]

"The most sensible people in the World" Clever how Al often administers the Pill of Truth within a sugar-coating of Comedy !

[@markmathews6876]

a great celebration of British heritage Al , shame it's all going down the shitter, is it time take a swipe at the globalists ??

[@wolfenstein6676]

Al Murray? Are you being serious, mate :) ? This public schoolboy takes the piss out of our working class and supports the globalist scum.

[@johnwick-vo7ig]

@ millionaire socialist,ex Oxbridge who votes labour WHAT A FUCKING HYPOCRITE HE IS!

[@davidwhite4874]

His whole stick is a piss-take of the English working class. If there's one thing upper middle class English socialists hate, it's the English working class.

[@stephenpiper5604]

@@johnwick-vo7ig why is he a hypocrite exactly? You haven't made it clear.

[@samuelthornton9179]

@@davidwhite4874 The bolsheviks didnt get financed, they just knew how to win a civil war

[@rosewhite---]

dragons have existed since Day 6 of Creation and are still with us today in the form of Komodo dragons and the various crocodiles and alligators.

[@sawtoothiandi]

Newts?

[@steveramsey8415]

The dragon referred to in the St George story is the dragon of the Pagans. The snakes reffered to in St Patrick's story are the snakes of the Celts. There never has been snakes in Ireland so he couldn't have got rid of something that was not there. But, Celts there were a plenty. Same as the Nordic Pagans that used the dragon as a symbol.

[@RevGary]

Satan is the old Dragon.

[@shadowlord1418]

Fairly sure komodos don't breathe fire

[@andylane247]

Day 500,000,000,000 surely?

[@papallegatepoope3010]

The Patron Saints of the US are The Blessed Virgin Mary as our Lady of the Immaculate conception. Also St. Catherine of Siena, Doctor of the church.

[@Kitiwake]

The patroness of the Americas is Our Lady of Guadelupe.

[@zaccatling3310]

He asked for a patron

[@elsrflanders1545]

That's Mexico

[@RestingBitchface7]

elSR flanders no, she’s right. Our Lady of Guadalupe is, in fact, the patroness of North America. Her shrine under that banner is in South Dakota.

[@RestingBitchface7]

zac catling “patron saints” is what he said, which is either gender.

[@Kitiwake]

@@elsrflanders1545 yes. She is ALSO patroness of the Americas

[@MrMjolnir69]

Really special. The bastard.

[@alexreid-wh9gq]

St. George ultimate british bloke - he was actually Turkish! But the Pub Landlord - pure class with a glass!

[@barrettus]

I really expected something about the Irish having an Englishman as their patron saint.

[@lawrencian]

I got told that St. Patrick was Welsh

[@aroutledge9565]

@@lawrencian he was English and left when England was being invaded by Danish or Vikings

[@petergreen2552]

St Patrick was brought over to Ireland from Wales. He wasn't English.

[@thomaswhittaker4137]

@@lawrencian St Patrick was taken from the west of Britain by Irish raiders in the 5th or 6th century a.d during the Anglo Saxon invasion. He was Romano British. Some historians think his home was Lancashire which was still British then. The Romano British are also known as the Welsh.

[@RevGary]

@@aroutledge9565 rubbish. Patrick was actually Scottish from Strathclyde. He had NO connection to Catholic church his theology more akin to Protestantism as was Jesus.

[@anthonyxuereb792]

Did the man say St. George came from Malta?

[@odysseusrex5908]

I had to go look it up after he said it, but the United States does have a patron saint, no less than the Virgin Mary. Dragons are mythical, and the story that has come down to us is obviously an adaptation of the myth of Perseus and Andromeda, BUT, the story says he was on a pilgrimage to the Holy Land. My understanding is that it was common to get there by way pf Egypt. I have always wondered if the historical saint could have had some kind of encounter with a Nile crocodile. Those things are damned big and damned dangerous, and the Latin 'draco' could be applied to any reptile.

[@odysseusrex5908]

@Paul Fletcher No, she most certainly was not. That's a silly thing to say.

[@odysseusrex5908]

@Paul Fletcher Well, regardless of his religious significance, Jesus was a real man and had a real mother. Now, since you pronounce all religion to be silly, it is obvious that you are a man of superior intelligence and education. I presume then, that your intellect has allowed you to reason to the conclusion that there is no God. I would be very interested in knowing your reasoning. Please note that I understand full well that a reasoned argument is not necessarily proof.

[@odysseusrex5908]

@Paul Fletcher Congratulations on all that travel. Very few have the means and opportunity to do that, and most who do, choose not to. Are you independently wealthy, or do you have a job that takes you on such exotic adventures? You can 'say' what you like, but that does not make it so. If, however, humans do need a deity, perhaps there is a reason for that. Yes, I know who Christopher Hitchens is and I have read The God Delusion. It can be boiled down into a single logically fallacious statement, "Evolution happened, therefore there is no God." There are many who cannot reconcile the facts of evolution and God. Mostly we hear about Christian fundamentalists who are like that, who say, "God exists, therefore evolution is false." For some reason, when Atheists make the reverse argument, which has no more logical validity (note neither argument is a complete syllogism) they are treated with intellectual respect. So, I ask you again, starting with some premise or premises, and reasoning logically from them, following their implications, can you come to a reasonable conclusion that there is no God?

[@odysseusrex5908]

@Paul Fletcher Well, massacres, plural, of innocent civilians, always by members of the same group, would seem to be a legitimate cause for concern. Sounds like you've had some fantastic adventures. I envy you. I don't suppose you've written a book about your travels? If not, you should. Travel literature, of course, is not so popular or important as it once was, because most people can at least do some traveling in their lives, and we have such a rich plethora of resources to find out anything and everything about anyplace we might be interested in. Nonetheless, you have done something extraordinary and the world would benefit from reading about it. Your conclusion is that there is no God, but what I am interested in is the *reasoning* that lead you to that conclusion. For instance, in the 18th century, the philosopher George Berkeley (after whom the city and university are named) developed the theory of Immaterialism, by which he argued that physical things don't really exist, they are only ideas in the mind. Thus, nothing exists unless someone is actively thinking about it and perceiving it. His answer to the question, "If a tree falls in the forest and no one was there to hear it, would it make a sound?" would be, "No, because without an observer the tree didn't exist to fall in the first place." A seemingly wild idea, but when you read his writings, he reasons so plainly from seemingly undeniable premises that it becomes very hard to argue with him. Anyway, since the universe clearly doesn't vanish every time we look away, he reasoned that this proves God exists, because there must be some greater intellect constantly thinking about and perceiving all things. Now, I do not accept this argument because I reject Immaterialism, but it is a reasoned argument. It begins with a premise, reasons logically through the implications of that premise, and reaches a conclusion. Philosophers and theologians can drink though the night hashing out the pros and cons and implications of the argument. I want to know yours. What is your premise, and what is the course of logic that leads reasonably, though not ineluctably, to the conclusion that no Deity exists?

[@etiam5267]

Odysseus Rex the problem with the idea of a god lies within a god’s very role: that of the creator. For if a god is said to have created the universe, he logically must have come from a creator as well yes? But there has been, as far as I can tell, no suggestions as to whom this might be.

[@nicholasjoseph9062]

I have to agree.

[@mixodorians12]

Saint David was a lovely chap, that helped the poor, was kind and loving to all creatures..(awaits sheep shagging jokss) humble and God rewarded him by raising the ground upon which he stood. He is a model for us all to live by.

[@Sewblon]

St. George is the best possible saint of England, because he refused to kill the dragon, until after the locals converted to Christianity. "Join my religion, or else." That is the best possible interpretation of the English.

[@viridisxiv766]

no, thats islam.

[@Sewblon]

@@viridisxiv766 The English and the Muslims were not that different in foreign policy for most of their history.

[@viridisxiv766]

@@Sewblon you are right, but christianity grew out of it. islam didnt.

[@oldscorp]

That isnt true. He killed the dragon, refused the reward and told them to give it to the poor. The people were so stoked on St. George that many of them converted to christianity. The pagan priests lobbied to have him killed poisoning the king against him, by telling him that he will steal his throne, destroy the kingdom, etc. He was tortured to death and is now a martyr saint.

[@spaceghost8886]

sounds based tbh fam

[@laelpeiris1799]

Could it be possible, that maybe, instead of a dragon, it was the last living dinosaur? cuz they did actually exist.

[@chadjcrase]

Bit harsh on the Welsh, but they aren't exactly lining up to defend David are they?

[@trippleshot2129]

“Folded early, 1943” ffs🤣

[@golddiggerdave]

He was from modern day Turkey and he did give his life in the name of Jesus Christ. George became a well liked and powerful within the Roman army ranks (picture Russel Crow in the Gladiator) He was a practising Christian while Rome was still pagan, the Roman emperor Diocletian, pleaded with George not to practice Christianity in public, offered him money and wealth. George refused and he was subject to horrific torture and beheading in 303 AD. The story of St George become popular with the knights of the first crusades in the 11th century and became patron St of England 1350 and further advance by Henry 5th in the battle of Agincourt in 1415 when we kicked the living snot of of the French! With great help from our brothers the Welsh longbow men which we would not have won without them.

[@LotarL31]

The Dragon was his Mother and Law.

[@pavitashergill8308]

Could have been yours??

[@LotarL31]

@@pavitashergill8308 no my mother is far worse. :)

[@opticnerve8927]

Al Murray is actually Scottish by ancestry 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@frenchy7103]

I read this "why is george st pierre a patron saint" 😂

[@jasontodd2533]

He's the canadian patron saint

[@OpEditorial]

I like Al Murray, his face does look like it's too small for his head though 🤔

[@richbryce5006]

Seriously? St. David did nothing!? What about the miracle of the small hill that arose on the very ground he stood on one day when he was preaching. And no moles involved, or at least none reported.

[@l.t.3444]

Best way to discuss roasting the yanks or any other nationalities is definitely over a pint. Cheers lads

[@StewartNicolasBILLYCONNOLLY]

St George fantastic British Saint's name. Great bloke, he killed the dragon, no argument there, fair play to him. Dragons needing slaying, George is your man, end of.....However, there was this Education Secretary in the 70s, she took milk from babies. She later became Prime Monster, she displayed all the traits of a Dragon, she burned the Unions, burned the coal, steel and shipbuilding industries then sold everything that we owned as a Nation!! As a NATION.....to her wealthy friends. She even, even sold the Electricity Board, Our Great British Electricity Board.....to Fr....FRA....FRA.......fuckin' FRANCE, FFS!!! Where was Georgie Boy then? 'E was restin' on 'is fuckin' laurels, still thinkin' of his glory days. That fuckin' where!! I rest my case.

[@advancelast1740]

Stewart Nicol as BILLY CONNOLLY oh fuck off

[@sharked8831]

The only George we got was Boy George FFS, where's the irony in that. Winston Churchill be turning in his grave now.

[@giovanniacuto2688]

The main point about St George is that he killed the dragon. Now which people have the dragon as the emblem on their flag? Says it all!

[@dcarbs2979]

Could be worse.. could be under communism next month!

[@1969cmp]

Dragon....lizard....dinosaur (terrible lizard) 😎

[@qte5530]

@04:40 True That😂

[@phillbarnes8513]

“Let the intellectuals worry about that sort of bullshit” 😂

[@simonmorris4226]

And both Saint David and St Patrick were welsh! So only Wales has a patron saint that was bleeding born there!🤣

[@benpoole2350]

2:58 “arsehole” 😂

[@geoffrogerson9937]

Wasn’t St George from Turkey?

[@seannamadra5675]

St.George give him a National Holiday?or can't ye?not PC?

[@Inquisitor_Vex]

You mean like a ‘Saint George’s day”?

[@lifeisagame2023]

Genius

[@jaccrystal6993]

Going to watch Al is like turkeys doing the proverbal.

[@mactavishmac1134]

Because Patrick lost himself and David well he changed his name to a Welsh name and Andrew what can you say about the jocks

[@ThorntonValiant]

4:08 I'm in

[@HSMiyamoto]

Murray is not a very English name, is it?

[@tungstenkid2271]

Hey Al its a pity you keep dropping the F-word because it means there's a whole internet audience of kids who won't be allowed to watch you delivering fabulous history lessons..:)

[@jessejojojohnson]

Wait for them to turn 18 😉

[@emeryjem]

I'm telling you secondary kids know more swears than you do 😂😂

[@spudgun7474]

Isn’t st George also patron saint of about 6 different countries? I suppose that and the fact that he never actually visited Engerland makes him irrelevant 🤔

[@alfiepaton1784]

The closest thing to a Paint Saint of the us is Mary Immaculate

[@tomfrazier1103]

Our patron saint is Fortuna, Dame Fortune.

[@yddraiggochaceman]

Be serious, it's David!

[@doristheslug9609]

S. Edmund is the patron saint of England

[@icdgyixify]

No - that is Geoff Hurst.

[@doristheslug9609]

Teeth

[@yurastyr8126]

ill get u on a spike..dragoon.. p.s. st Yura

[@hard2bhardcore]

The welsh know what st David did 👍

[@tristman8413]

Something to do with sheep?

[@hard2bhardcore]

@@tristman8413 yes actually also a Englishman and a lamb dinner..

[@RevGary]

Made some Leek soup prolly :p

[@jonathonharrington5849]

I thought St David was Irish, not that it matters much!

[@hard2bhardcore]

@@jonathonharrington5849 no st david was born in wales and so was the Irish st Patrick born in wales.

[@karenward267]

So clever.

[@johnmchugh8049]

Mary of the immaculate conception is Americas patron saint sonny Jim

[@crazywood7593]

Come on st George trap the dragon on Mars

[@KokoOroq]

He said Saint David did nothing worth mentioning. He resurrected a child

[@ln9895]

my local church is st george's😎

[@Strawberry-12.]

Americas patron saint is the blessed mother

[@stephennewton2777]

Thomas Evers Marge Simpson?

[@AtheistOrphan]

Thomas Evers - Hillary Clinton?

[@bazmc1153]

Lilith? 😂

[@colindebourg3884]

Sounds a bit harsh...

[@Molotov49]

Is it just me or is the audience too loud in relation to Al's voice?

[@canaan5337]

There's more people of Irish ancestry in the United States than there is in Ireland

[@jk844100]

That doesn’t make them Irish

[@joebryant8500]

Real Irish ancestry or made up Irish ancestry? John Kerry spent decades claiming he was Irish-American until someone actually checked and discovered he had precisely zero Irish antecedents. His Eastern European forbears simply chose "Kerry" at Ellis Island on arrival.

[@KENKENNIFF]

Dids someone say arsehole at 3.00 ?

[@ph4ntomzzzr655]

KENKENNIFF ‘no he wasnt’

[@marvinc9994]

Actually, I rather like St George - and I think we English did well to adopt him. And he's SO much sexier and credible than, say, St Crispin (cobblers), St Lidwina (ice-skaters) or St James of Savile (kiddy-fiddlers).

[@nitinkataria6030]

He looks like a 50 year old Flintoff but only stoned to last longer.......