Why the Civic Type R is a £50k GT3 RS | 4K Road Test

[@integra_gang]

I own an Integra Type S basically the same car, and it is truly truly a driver enthusiasts vehicle

[@redlinemagazine]

You have taste 👌

[@JacesOwnWorld]

It’s FWD though 🤷‍♂️

[@integra_gang]

@@JacesOwnWorld still has a faster Nurburgring lap time with cars in the same class

[@aminzain-m2j]

@@JacesOwnWorld soon enough there will be ppl selliing awd conversion kit, so no worries. anyway rwd is indeed fun to drive on weekend & doing donuts, but for daily use & fuel economy, this is more than enough imo

[@malcolmar]

Great video. The Honda Civic Type R is really a very special car. I own a FK8 and I am never selling that car. This car is a gift to the driver enthusiast. The fact that Honda sells the Type R only as a 6 speed manual is something that should be respected.

[@Duran762]

Its so sad its hard to buy one used theyre still so expensive :( my dream car

[@redlinemagazine]

Facts!

[@redlinemagazine]

You’ll have one some day!

[@Duran762]

@@redlinemagazine thank you i hope so idk if people will buy them all by the time i somehow have enough.

[@mdkflip7231]

Even though I've never driven or owned one, I keep coming back to this car. I live in an area where stick shift doesn't make sense, yet I keep looking at the car. Currently have an Elantra N on lease, but really hard to stay with this car when it's clear the Honda will hold it's value more and probably last longer.

[@grahmdoughty]

Fun depends on what you want in a car and also the roads/weather where you live. I've owned both an 8Y RS3 and FL5 Type R and for me the RS3 is more fun more of the time. The engine is special at any speed, and while the Type R's chassis is superior you don't really get to experience that unless you're pushing the car 7/10 or above. And if there's any rain you might as well be driving a base Civic. The RS3 on the other hand is quite a bit of fun in the rain and snow - and fun to push around the track, as long as you replace the garbage stock Pirellis. But if you live somewhere sunny/dry and track your car a lot then I can see the case for FL5 - just spend some of the 10K you saved sorting out the cooling.

[@goldenboy8249]

I was going to say just this! I've driven the 8Y and it's hard to imagine the type r being the "obvious option". I think if the 8Y came in hatch format, there really wouldn't be another choice for me on the market. That car is truly special.

[@philippemoisan9493]

The rs3 is not manual tho

[@J88HNT]

The FN2 was a great Type-R dont believe the nonsense from people who have not owned one.

[@MrPoppyplants]

No

[@arjpillay788]

No it most certainly wasn’t. Owned one and owned 2 FD2Rs from the same era. No comparison at all, on any level. Even in isolation, the FN2 was not a great Type R. Not by a long shot.

[@abcwarrior91]

Nobody cares about the fn2 it’s ugly and it’s slow lol

[@chris-piascik]

It is a great car, the bar the other Type R’s set is just very high.

[@dtrain1634]

Yup I miss our 2010 one 😮 now we have an Octavia VRS 245. The Type R FN2 was good but very hard ride. The VRS is better daily- much quicker. 5 doors. Pulls effortlessly… but still miss the FN2. Off cam the FN2 is slow. On cam it’s fine. With pilot sport tyres it’s Excellent- most ppl who moan about it run rubbish tyres (go figure)… same with the VRS. Tyres make a huge difference! 😮

[@boolji]

It really is the FWD Porsche

[@nununana7630]

It is RWD Posrche Drive backwards 😂

[@SINGH-ing]

@@nununana7630 😂😅

[@BPF80MCar-vi1pg]

Fuck no

[@pequeñomoth]

Definitely the most driver focused hatchback out there. Great vid!

[@leeengland1748]

GR yaris i would say. Rally homologation not just a tweeked granny car

[@i.d.6492]

It's definitely not the most drivers focused vehicle. You obviously haven't driven any others as you can't afford them. Elantra N is very fun and driver focused. RS3, M cars and I can go on and on.

[@leeengland1748]

@@i.d.6492 owned an FK8 type r, gr yaris, m3s, m4, caymans, 911s but ok 👍

[@leeengland1748]

@@i.d.6492 rs3 are not driver focused, more bland than the m4 i owned

[@eedoamitay3341]

It's the cornering ability in this car that makes it punch above its class, it's very very impressive

[@redlinemagazine]

You’re spot on!

[@rml2015]

I own a 991.2 and a FL5 and I can tell you there is nothing in common between them.

[@DudeThedudesky]

The type r for its price is so much better

[@jamaisvu2664]

They both have a rear wing, 4 wheels with tires, hatch…

[@19hundoc47]

Oh wow we are all so impressed

[@stephenboroughs2314]

Another fantastic video.

[@goldenboy8249]

For $50k you're in striking distance of a 996 with a Flat6 Innovations 4.0 stage II build. This is quite literally a gt3 analog. Theres probably money to sort out the suspension too...just a thought.

[@cv2010u]

This^

[@CesarMartinez-gl9ko]

For $50K you’re also in striking distance of a C6 Z06 Corvette which will destroy a 996 in stock form. Not to mention the IMS in the 996 is still there and parts for a 911 aren’t cheap by any means either. You break something and pray it’s nothing crazy.

[@DudeThedudesky]

Wtf no your not

[@danielgarris5812]

@@CesarMartinez-gl9kofor 50k you can get a C6 Z06 with money to spare, they are going for high 30s, and 50-80k miles for a Chevy small block is nothing.

[@patrickr4762]

Love that Bel Canto on your wrist.

[@redlinemagazine]

You noticed! 👀

[@patrickr4762]

@@redlinemagazine Haha you noticed the comment as well. That’s an awesome watch. My 2 passions cars and watches.

[@Symphoniics]

@@patrickr4762I am with both of y’all. Car enthusiast and watch collector haha. Love the Bel Canto

[@goldenboy8249]

Having hobbies like watch collecting and car racing/collecting keeps me too poor to do drugs or get into trouble 😂

[@SonikDethmonkey]

I’m waiting for my Red One!

[@fastlane2914]

Great review totally agree 👍

[@a.s.v4261]

Maybe it's crazy, but at 65 years old I'm thinking of changing my 2007 civic 1.8 for this FL5 for daily use and quiet driving!😊😊😊😊😊

[@redlinemagazine]

You sir, are a legend 🫡

[@i.d.6492]

It's not gonna be a quite driving. As a 65 year old you'd want something comfy. This ain't that. Suspension is way too stiff for daily use. The Type S has a better suspension and looks better

[@taheershah6177]

Are these still overheating on track?

[@racerkully]

im a honda fan but these engines keep seeing massive oil and water temps when on track! not great for a £50k hot hatch! and especially when the FK8 which isnt that different was around £18k cheaper from the dealer new!

[@TheTrickytrick88]

A Mk3 Megane RS uses a torsion beam, never hear any whinge about that... The FN2 was a great car and the FK2 took the ring record for FWD at the time. IMO their still has never been a bad Type R.

[@redlinemagazine]

Type Rs rule 🔥

[@dancinglizard3080]

The christopher ward looks great on your wrist, good taste man 🎩

[@redlinemagazine]

Thank you, so do you 🙏

[@redlinemagazine]

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[@angel_one1259]

All type-r are good expect the Euro-R, best is the EK and then the EP.

[@lnlarxg]

I love you Christopher Ward Belcanto watch. Btw still loving my FK8 can’t justify a £50k civic

[@redlinemagazine]

Thank you! You have great taste in cars and watches 👏

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[@nfspeedy2]

Nice video but I disagree with the Total number of FK8 Limited. The total number was 1.020. 600 were for the US market. And VTEC is not activated between 6.000 and 7.000 rpm on the K20C1 engine. VTEC works the other way round and helps with turbo lag. It is activated below 2.500 rpm. Above the turbo is spooling there is no need to change the valve lift above 2.500 rpm!

[@nyrox84]

Vtec starts at 4000rpm, i dont think you understood how it works

[@MrSuperj1one]

They are a bit expensive for my budget but man, I want to get one

[@simonmessina4774]

My daily it's the best drive to the shops and back

[@redlinemagazine]

Pleased you’re enjoying it!

[@LizLyricz]

Awesome vid

[@kimzor1989]

Then you take it to the track and the oil temp goes straight to 150c.

[@eajayy8969]

wow, Europe got hella type R generations. The states only got the type R in 2017

[@redlinemagazine]

Feel sorry for you guys. Hopefully more are sent to the US in the future.

[@vmaxbaby]

I know this car is a beast at a track but would so much nicer if it had more power. A golf R DSG will rip it from 0-150 mph, and because of the wheel hop of the Type R allot of lesser vehicles will take it stop light to stop which is sad it should be 335-355hp to be in the beast mode.

[@redlinemagazine]

Feels a lot faster than the quoted 324bhp!

[@FlatSpotTv]

Fun fact, the FK8 still uses the K20

[@port8565]

why would you check fwd?

[@davidhayes4814]

Even some basic hot hatches are £40K so I guess that is decent value. The only caveat to that was the Hyundai i20N. At half the cost it is more than half this car …. But of course they have axed it.

[@redlinemagazine]

Such a shame the i20N has come off sale!

[@kalyanlimo09]

Anybody else clocked CW time piece. ;)

[@redlinemagazine]

Good spot!

[@speedwobble5383]

Or pick up a low mileage Mk5 Supra for £40k. Better car and closer to a gt3rs in every possible way.

[@redlinemagazine]

You have great taste in cars 🫡

[@DudeThedudesky]

​@redlinemagazine no he doesn't. Saying a bmw z4 with a Toyota badge is better than a type r

[@DudeThedudesky]

Bmw fanboy clown. Enjoying your Japanese bmw z4

[@speedwobble5383]

@@DudeThedudesky ah, spoken like a 14 year old from his mom's basement.

[@DudeThedudesky]

@speedwobble5383 it's a bmw chassis mate. Drivetrain, electrics and all the other bits and bobs are bmw. It's a z4. Just search it up. It's a garbage car. Like every bmw. It oversteers and has 0 traction. I'm no civic type r fan I'm just amazed how good it is. I love porsches audis mercs alfas but this type r is really phenomenal. Also the fk8 type r was as quick as a m2 comp costing twice the price having 2 doors not 4 like the civic and having over 100 more hp. Crazy. Crazy how bad bmw is. And how good the type r is. I watched a video of a guy with a bone stock brand new broken in type r on the nurburgring passing gt3s around corners somehow. And I don't think 3 or 4 gt3 drivers would all be equally bad.

[@G3LDY]

Better off with a Porsche 911 as a 50k gt3 RS 🤦‍♂️

[@ae86fiend]

Too bad it doesn't sound as good as a GT3 RS.

[@dasmg]

too bad a GT3 RS is waaaaaay more expensive

[@DM-fj8wv]

Thankfully it's a tad cheaper LMAO

[@DudeThedudesky]

It sounds like a iconic 4 cyl race engine

[@Unicornpirate]

Without a NA engine, this is no budget GT3 or GT3RS. Also why spend the first 4 mins talking about the Type R history and not the FL5 itself? Why omit the FD2 Type R? Why include a 1 min sponsor in such a short video talking about the car? I laughed when he said you get VTEC between 6000 and 7000 RPM. Its more like 3400 RPM but don’t expect it to hit like a B-series or K20. you can’t really feel it change over but it helps with the breathing of the engine. Also its VTEC only on the exhaust cam...not the intake cam like the NA VTEC. This car has overheating issues on the Ring as shown by Misha Charoudin so its no budget GT3 RS which can run the Ring without issues.

[@LUKEASHLEYPEARSON]

If it had awd i might agree. Not even close.

[@MD-xb1qw]

A budget GT3 RS is a GT3. 😂

[@redlinemagazine]

See what you did there 😂

[@markomarin3414]

By Calling the budget “911 GT RS” isn’t it a. It presumptuous ?

[@jaunie8217]

And?

[@jamesh.7633]

No?

[@oscarlainz]

Sweet Bel Canto!

[@redlinemagazine]

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[@emmanuelperrina6105]

It can be fast in a straight line, but I would never buy a fwd performance oriented car, there is no point to me.

[@dasmg]

nice Bel Canto on the wrist!

[@redlinemagazine]

Thank you!

[@redlinemagazine]

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[@airsoftincompetence]

I'd still rather have an FK8.

[@redlinemagazine]

Amazing car!

[@lohkokwing1751]

Where's the FD2R gone

[@toli2270]

50k price tag not a budget car, I rather be in a ctr

[@talalaldossary2656]

👍

[@M3_86]

Title is a little click baity no? 😂

[@rhodaborrocks-dy3fb]

‘Budget’

[@leeengland1748]

Nothing like it! Front wheel drive, front engine, not a ground up sports car, 4 cylinder, not n/a. My slipper is closer to a gt3 rs

[@hapstakijumnuayporn4117]

Gt3rs does not come in manual

[@i.d.6492]

GTR RS is a stretch. I'd say it's a budget rs3 at best. Mad overhyped. It's also looks more like a lift back grand tourer than a hatchback. This car is just way too long

[@jasoncannadine1553]

Nice car but…. Is that a bel canto?

[@redlinemagazine]

It certainly is, well spotted!

[@jasoncannadine1553]

@@redlinemagazine looks lush mate very good choice of watch 🙌🏼

[@redlinemagazine]

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[@Bella-j1j7]

Just switched from a Fk8 Type R to a 2025 Camry, currently no regrets..only high praise.

[@30hours51]

i hope u r joking

[@friendlyuser1]

Never seen a car scream boy racer louder. The ride is horrible you're literally bouncing throughout the video & the chassis is shuddering violently over what seems like a perfectly smooth road? Its not even a real hatchback its like half hatch half sedan.

[@ehren-foley]

Happy to have been upgraded from budget GT3 to budget GT3RS 😂

[@redlinemagazine]

It’s what we do 😂

[@nayliqisteenashukri3226]

50k is not budget..

[@JacesOwnWorld]

For $60k, I’m simply not choosing a FWD Civic. 🤷‍♂️ Oh, and the CTR is NOT a hot hatch. The 300ZX, 350Z, 370Z, and new Z have the same exact trunk lid opening, but we don’t call those hot hatches do we? No, we don’t! So no, the CTR is NOT a hot hatch!

[@mwzahid]

The type r is a fantastic car. But to say it’s a 50k GT3 RS honestly such a REACH! It’s just click bait haha. Something that would be closer to a “50k” gt3rs would be the 6th gen Camaro ss 1LE

[@justinhale2160]

You'd be surprised how many 1le owners traded in for the fl5.

[@josedusol]

yup, this giant thing is still a "hatchback"

[@redlinemagazine]

It is a big car, feels wide on the road. FK8 was also like this.

[@bartekk3982]

Oh, come on! First Type-R Honda in Europe was DC2 ITR!, not EP3

[@DriverJ-N]

If this car was dct like the Elantra N they would sell so damn much

[@kickstand801]

Love the car, hate the price. I'd rather get the Elantra N. Less horsepower of course but the price is better, and it sounds WAY better than the Type R.

[@redlinemagazine]

It is a lot of money, but the driving experience is worth it. Certainly couldn’t be anymore expensive though.

[@van_der_lindeDA]

​@@redlinemagazinetype R a level above that hyundai

[@SitBackandWatch.Official]

Can’t go wrong with an FK8

[@Symphoniics]

@@van_der_lindeDANot really. Type R is a better performer, yes, but not $10k better. And the Elantra N has way better engine and exhaust noises. That’s facts

[@Symphoniics]

@@hectorpalomar4533Elantra N engines are not failing

[@lukew3224]

More of a road TCR car

[@redlinemagazine]

Nicely put!

[@jarmago7750]

R

[@USConnexion]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@PaddyMcQueen]

sadly it has a silly price

[@azamchaudhri]

Yeah your right of course,but quite honestly, so do many cars nowadays. I can't believe the price of even basic cars these days. Can easily spend 30k for what . Add in electric power cars and it gets even madder doesn't it. 😮

[@allackballack]

I sell Hondas this is dumb

[@Que67kdro90]

Delete that stupid title 🤦🤣🤣

[@damon1096]

It's good but it aint no GT3 RS...

[@J88HNT]

Not really a hatch but okay.

[@jonboy602]

In what way is it not a hatch?

[@Dane-p8s]

You’re insulting the gt3rs

[@sharmilanraj]

Have you driven a GT3 RS like the reviewer? If not, shut it.

[@Dane-p8s]

@@sharmilanraj don’t say like you do,u don’t even drive a type r

[@van_der_lindeDA]

@@Dane-p8s what do you drive?

[@Dane-p8s]

@@van_der_lindeDA fk8,mk7.5r

[@van_der_lindeDA]

@@Dane-p8s 😅 sure

[@KC-lg8qf]

So many butt hurt people in the comments....

[@SitBackandWatch.Official]

They don’t know any better, lmao!

[@davothegreat9990]

Gt3rs isnt fwd. Cant compare an overpriced fwd honda to a porsche.

[@sharmilanraj]

People use to say Rear engine cars were garbage too but Porsche made it work like Honda made FWD work.

[@van_der_lindeDA]

Do you spend your life hating on type R😂 living rent free in your head

[@davothegreat9990]

@van_der_lindeDA speak facts, mate. Not some biased opinion of an overpriced slow car from yourself

[@van_der_lindeDA]

@@davothegreat9990 hahahaha ahhh this kills me, what astonishing car do you drive?🤣

[@davothegreat9990]

@van_der_lindeDA mostly stock g87 m2 currently, ordering a porsche soon. Maybe next year. You?? Still a ctr....

[@algt4521]

I have a 991.2 gt3rs and the newer 992.1 gt3rs and had a type R (got it because I had an Integra type r growing up) to lull kids around. Completely different cars. Not even close. Sold the fk8 after 6 months. It's just not fun or special.

[@Stevo.jones89]

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