Why The Espada VS Warlords Isn’t Close ft.

[@bobby31723]

Even with equal stats, the espada clears. Nearly none of the warlords can fly or have insane movement abilities they can spam, unlike every single espada. HUGE mobility advantage. On top of a lot of the warlords not having a lot of spammable and effective ranged attacks as well, while every espada at the very least have balas and multiples cero variants with massive aoe. The espada are also not chumps when it come to hax. All hollows reiatsu is poisonous and need specific antibodies to prevent the soul of those damaged to erode, crumble and then dissapear. Quincies do not have those anti bodies in Bleach and Hollows are extremely dangerous to them. The characthers in OP would be very succeptible to that poison. Same with the espada every attacks damaging the very soul ,bypassing a lot of regens and durability and being able to damage Logias. And soul crush having the same effects as conqueror haki but with even more effect on the soul. As for specific hax not share by every espada: -Aaronierro isn't that much, but he could eat any espada that dies and gain their strengh ,abilities and memories , effectivelly making any other espada dying before him be quite meaningless. -Szayel creating dozens of clones of any characther that is touched by his black liquid , allies or ennemies. He could make a small army of other espada or warlord it land on. And those clones have the exact same stats and power as the original so him alone could win the battle for the espada. And he have his voodoo dolls as mentionned in the video but not nearly as impactfull. -Zommari 's amor could also be quite problematic , severely crippling or even taking out a target instantly depending where it land. -Harribel ability to create and manipulate water to an insane degree , and given how many devil fruit user there is among the warlords on top of countering Jinbei and Crocodile, she is a incredible asset. -Barragan 's power of time will also be game changing. Nothing can touch him and anyone touched by his attacks mean certain death or servere crippling for the characther. -Not really a hax , but i do need to mention Starrk's absolute spamming of thousands and thousands of cero that he can maintain for at least weeks on end. While flying above the warlords out of harms way. Along Ulquiorra absolutely giga nuking the battlefiled with multiple lanzas.

[@ThePandaOfYourMind]

In all fairness, even with equal stats, no warlord has anything to stop Barragan, since he can age even energy

[@coo_coo_]

100%

[@dontwatchmyvideoace1383]

Boa hancock ability could.

[@ginnungagapabyss5639]

Imagine if the 7 warlords ended up reincarnating into hollows after this fight. Reborn with superior powers and abilities based on their souls, with their haki also evolving.

[@revenantronin8377]

they would be low level hollows, that's not how souls work in Bleach. No human soul automatically evolves, they need to absorb at least 100,000 souls just to reach arrancar status. That's assuming they are the dominant ego that controls the other 99,999 souls.

[@ginnungagapabyss5639]

@@revenantronin8377 I know, and since Haki is literally willpower their souls would be dominant. I did not say anything about them instantly reaching the top, they would have a massive head start with their power.

[@ryandelmundo4965]

I think they can be born as a vasto lorde

[@ginnungagapabyss5639]

@@ryandelmundo4965 right

[@redxzs0]

@@ginnungagapabyss5639 nah a stray gillian or adjucha might squad wipe before they get the chance to evolve

[@ianrowen8560]

I think this should be common knowledge bro. The bleach verse scales massively above the one piece verse. Highest bleach characters are like solar system to universal. The highest one piece characters be like multi continental. Tldr: Espada slams

[@gabesisneros136]

Often higher scaling later in the show being the final arc and in the manga / apparently sorta canon hell verse movie

[@savaory4217]

Bleach scaling is even higher than that u can characters like uryu ywach aizen and ichigo to low complex multi

[@Marko964]

This one guy wrote low complex multi which i do not agree with (maybe after the hell arc which is not finished yet). The strongest cap at high multiversal. Most characters scale around planet - high multiversal. Ofc you could rly highball some characters to ridicule numbers but it wouldn’t make sense.

[@luizotavio44]

tbh one piece scaling is honestly kinda low in general for these popular shonen only higher than series like demon slayer which is almost mundane in scaling

[@savaory4217]

@@luizotavio44 Ik the highest u can get one piece is to star lvl off of a statement and highballing the verses size

[@Hamzethegoat]

People don’t understand how broken Bleach verse is these are not pirates and ninjas they are Shinigami spiritual beings with each move attack the soul including zanpakto

[@Nube_Negrah]

As a Bleach fan, I don't know if I by you saying the Espada would lose with equal stats. You can directly compare Haki and Reiatsu because they are both forms of inner will and spiritual energy. Even with equal stats, every Espada member would have a way to Tag characters like crocodile and moira but also resist hax like Boa Hancocks

[@vsoist]

Hmm haki and reiatsu is completely different , as bleach as my 3rd favourite I say your incorrect

[@Nube_Negrah]

@@vsoist bleach being a favorite of yours doesn't change the fact that you are wrong. Haki is verbatim said to be a "mysterious power that allows the user to utilize their own spiritual energy for various purposes". Reiatsu/Reiryoku is spiritual energy in Bleach. There's a direct comparison right there

[@pantsuuchan1169]

@@Nube_Negrahthats like saying ki and chakra are the same

[@Nube_Negrah]

@@pantsuuchan1169 they're similar except in Naruto chakra comes from outside the planet unlike nature energy

[@pantsuuchan1169]

@@Nube_Negrah but there not at all there from 2 entirely different series and at that point if you wanna go that far, they cant even see or touch the espeda their ghosts

[@archflamingo9156]

bro the fact that early mid bleach is already planetary to star is insane only the yonkos admirals and legends from op stand a chance

[@alf0.323]

💀💀💀 Planet-Star at early Bleach?!?! Absolutely 🧠 ☠️

[@Xerbat.]

ur so stupid bro

[@weskintime4177]

@@alf0.323Kido Canon in the one canon movie that was powered by some fodder Soul Reapers could destroy a planet and that was PRE-ARRANCAR ARC. Memories of Nobody IS canon.

[@mufeezsyed2664]

​@@weskintime4177why do people always forget that the captain class soul reapers need to control their power otherwise it's threat to the world itself😂. And some of the captain's were getting overpowered by arrancars.

[@alexclarke-wz9nw]

​@@alf0.323yama without popping bankia could destroy the whole seireitei early bleach btw

[@prynce.]

Baraggan by himself solos, u cant tell me otherwise simply cuz there is nothing that the Warlords are doing to bypass his Respira, and adding the other 9, it is overkill

[@coo_coo_]

even equal stats there’s no way they have around it.

[@kataelthedemon8909]

Grimmjow is pretty enough to destroy every warlord

[@trafalgardlawyer6128]

Blackbeard with blackvortex can absorb baragan Moria will take any of the espada's shadow to fight form him

[@kataelthedemon8909]

@@trafalgardlawyer6128 they are too slow to participate against Espada. Also they can die cause of Reatsu Pressure

[@trafalgardlawyer6128]

@@kataelthedemon8909 you really think they are normal humans,op characters have great reaction speed they can dodge lightspeed and beyond attacks with observation haki

[@Strudydemon]

aizen literally neg shanks buggy luffy and black beard in tybw

[@LunarcXD]

newborn aizen negs ngl.

[@Reaper_765]

@@LunarcXDkid version is enough

[@danamakanyan]

in fake karakura town arc bruh, even before he fused with the hogyoku, aizen dogwalks the entire op verse

[@gamerhive0]

Boa : MERO MER- *ulquiora proceeds to hit her with a f***** *planet beam*

[@water9653]

The espada win with or without equal stats. You're forgetting the warlords have literally 0 counter to Barragan.

[@trafalgardlawyer6128]

Blackbeard darkness power

[@J_S_M1]

@@trafalgardlawyer6128 He can age energy

[@Moore321]

​@J_S_M1 bb is a literal black whole not even light escapes. It's not energy

[@Moore321]

One touch from crocodile and they useless but crocodile doesn't have great speed feats that we know of so that's unlikely.

[@water9653]

@@Moore321 Lad. They infact do not live with water. Also if crocodile got close enough, he'd be erased by spiritual pressure. Or arrogante. Or Cero Oscuras. Or get washed tf away by Harribel, etc

[@Frstypwngaming]

There's 10 primary Espada, and then some others, but all you really need is to pick any of them and they solo the warlords neg diff by scaling above Memories of Nobody Ichigo who destroyed a hyperspace.

[@WesleyZ3]

Fun video idea but this type of fight can only work with equal stats b/c the weakest Espada can solo most of One Piece

[@snoozerrr_]

the espada slam even w/o resurrection

[@wastingtimejustwaiting]

10 commandments from sds vs espada, do it now or i riot

[@sbthesage2100]

Pay for it and I gotchu

[@gabesisneros136]

Espada have some broken powers too, so idk how espada lose with equalizer, which honestly wouldn't make sense to do such a thing.

[@Frstypwngaming]

At equal stats Barragan still solos. They have no way to attack him as everything they do ages to nothing and they have no way to reverse it onto him like what happened during the FKT arc; Starkk also solos by being able to fire literally a literal infinite amount of attacks from range (Thousands per second and being made of light), Any resurrecion 10x amp from their equalized stats (None of the warlords have anything similar) with Ulquiorra having a 100x amp from their equalized stats as well; Szayelaporro can just reverse their damage and make puppets out of them and destroy all of their organs without them having a way to deal with it, Zommari Rureaux just makes them all kill each other, Tier Harribel negates Jimbe's ability to manipulate water in a 1v1 (They're also souls, and souls aren't made of water like humans & other animals)

[@ydpark8383]

with eqaul stats mihawk becomes one of the weakest, and no one is killing Barragan. Also equal stats should never extend to the power of ability's ap. The speed of ability is fine, but if a character(A) without equal stats who is stronger than another character(B), but gets blitzed by an ability that ability should blitz character(B)

[@Exro.]

Do Sternritters vs Naruto and One Piece

[@TocattaTotentanzMacabre]

Sternritters solo.

[@crisis514]

Sternritter negs lol

[@Toshiro_the_Goat]

Overkill lmao

[@thegreaterconsciousness5997]

Dude you should’ve included Law and Blackbeard not saying anything changes but I know for a fact they scale higher as warlords than city level crocodile and Moria

[@sbthesage2100]

Bro it was mad work 😭 and not really the orginal group so I didn’t

[@thegreaterconsciousness5997]

@@sbthesage2100 yuh I feel you

[@st.michaeluche688]

Espada clears negative difficulty

[@Deim0]

id argue even with equal stats the espada would win, imagine if all of them just went ressureccion and used gran rey cero on them (if it was a battle royale) what would they do? the attack is strong enough to kill them and it would likewise vaporize them, meaning a logia wouldnt really do anything

[@theoktonos]

equal stats the espada still stomp, i dont know how you came into that conclusion, and specifically why you left it out the video without any explanation, harribel just uses cascada and no diffs lol

[@gman8477]

Nice video as always 🎉

[@theprimegamer7086]

still an entertaining video, this is mainly about powerscaling as a whole part of me enjoys the whole "who would win" stuff, cuz i am curious how a fight would go between characters i like what i dont like is all of the powerscaler terms, they *sound* like theyre supposed to be an easy way to give an idea as to how strong a character is (ie: island level, star level) but its mind boggling to think that "continent level" and "star level" are similar like one is a portion of the surface of a planet and another is a massive ball of fire with the mass of hundreds of that same planet that continent is on so either i have to find what all of this is supposed to mean on some wiki that not everyone agrees is correct or i should question how helpful this assesment is to any argument unless the other person is definitely above the highest possible scale or below the lowest possible scale like "okay this character's max strength is either enough to punch a hole in drywall or completely level a mountain" it all feels like people are just throwing out vague guesses when they use those terms too, like yeah everyone says they calculated it to be whatever level but tbh id at least like to see the numbers alongside the terms and most videos dont do that, yeah something like 200 tons of tnt or 28,000 miles per hour doesnt mean a whole lot to me but id at least be able to see "okay this characters number is higher than this other character's number so this is clearly better" plus it shows if theyre significantly faster or stronger or more durable like multiple times higher or if its just by the tiniest bit i do agree with the outcome of the video though, even if i dont agree with all of the reasonings.

[@nk_worldz6667]

The thumbnail goes hard asf

[@mrabadon3657]

This is an easy answer. Bleach is a stronger world than One Piece. Therefore Espada is stronger than warlords. I would give them a mid - hight diff. Because of the problem in communication between Espada

[@galaxyofizanami]

Let’s be honest, they would probably just leave it to one of them, and then the rest of them go do something else

[@sbthesage2100]

youtube.com/@TheRogueGuy?si=cIzkeW3EjwAgGaUP go sub to Rogue !

[@Makoto-khan]

Even in equal stats how can the warlords deal with Barragan?

[@PoH27]

mihawk is deadass carrying😂

[@ClaytonOHara]

Crocoboy and Doffy aren’t pushovers, bruh

[@crisis514]

@@ClaytonOHaralet them spout there nonsense

[@pantsuuchan1169]

@@ClaytonOHarain the eyes of the espada they afe

[@alphaomega1210]

@@pantsuuchan1169 He completely skipped over doffy and gear 4 multipliers that range from 3 to 4 times on top of gear 2.

[@pantsuuchan1169]

@@alphaomega1210 they are fodder compared to ulqiorra grimjow any of the espeda starrk prolly wven nnoitra

[@Marsh_Mocchi]

Didn't the manga say that Stark split because he was too strong and used to be stronger before he split? I'm not sure if this applied to the ressureccion(?) but I'm pretty sure the Warlords woulda lost just to Stark if he had split. Barragan also just solos also of the Warlords cuz they can't even touch him(maybe Kuma? But probably not since literally everything ages)(also not sure if this is said in the anime or not)

[@DumbFounded_1]

If I remember correctly, when Ulq was in Segunda, he stated that there were still 3 people stronger than him

[@galaxyofizanami]

Didn’t he say that in his first appearance? You can’t take what he says 100% certainty because he’s known for his nihilism. Why would he not try to break someone else as will? He also try to hide his final transformation, so it makes no sense for him to include it.

[@DumbFounded_1]

@galaxyofizanami No, he says this while in his second release. Besides, Aisen already knew, in the panel where Aisen reveals he planned everything Ichigo has done up to that point, it specifically puts Segunda Ulq in the panel, which shows that Aisen did indeed know but still decided he was 4th

[@galaxyofizanami]

@@DumbFounded_1 why are you lying? He did not say it during his second release he only said it during their meeting in the castle. Also, we already know aizen do not truly rank it based on power he change it depending on what he feels like he has number zero at number 10 that all you need to do to realize he does not truly base it on how powerful the person is. I’m also pretty sure he wanted ichigo to be in despair to awaken the hollow in him. Which is why he sent the despair guy to him.

[@DumbFounded_1]

@galaxyofizanami shi mb, but he was still factoring in his Segunda which he was very aware of

[@galaxyofizanami]

@ where is your proof for that? The mere fact I know you have no proof, for that mean you are just lying again. I also have no proof that he was not factoring it in, but I have more contacts clues then you. Aizen wanted to push Ichigo into using his hollow transformation. So it only makes sense for him to send someone that is overwhelmingly more powerful than him.

[@joshuaamerson5596]

Still the slowest but he does know haki after that ark which makes him actually massively better

[@animepower842]

who even thought of this matchup 💀

[@TocattaTotentanzMacabre]

Hanataro solos all of One Piece.

[@vwastaken]

To make it simple, here's all the Warlords: Buggy, Law, Blackbeard, Crocodile, Doffy, Moria, Hancock, Kuma, and Mihawk. Buggy loses to any of the Espada. Law loses to most of the Espada. Blackbeard loses to most of the Espada. Crocodile loses to most of the Espada. Doffy loses to most of the Espada. Moria loses to most of the Espada. Hancock loses to most of the Espada. Kuma loses to most of the Espada. Mihawk loses to most of the Espada.

[@Big_Cain]

Espada: Skill, Experience, IQ, Range, AP, DC, Hax, Abilities, Power, Speed, & Durability. 7 Warlords: Skill, Experience, BIQ, & Abilities.

[@sbthesage2100]

Other than speed you got it right

[@Big_Cain]

@@sbthesage2100I knew I made a mistake somewhere. Thank you so much I love your videos.❤️

[@foreverx243]

@@cjcj4861 the warlords get shit on by espada its not even close

[@MoloBolo-nl6kx]

How do Warlords have more experiences 😭 the Espadas where all once Hollows who lived in Mundo for at least a over hundred Years even rukia is like 151 well currently I think she's 170 years old or close to that either way Espadas takes experience, Skills they take pretty much everything

[@Killerqueenhasnoweakness]

You made a lil mistake all goes to the espadas sorry

[@logandelaharpe6362]

States equalized changes nothing barragan solos either way

[@normanderi]

Even on equal stats espada win anyway, abilities arent changed so even if barragan cant produce infinite respira(which is a bigger nerf than only stats), if he uses it only in the important moments he is unbeatable, stark's cero might not oneshot in equal stats, stop a barrage of them while he is flying, harribel could drown most of them easily, ulquiorra regen can literally outlast everyone, noitra is basically immune if you arent stronger than him(technically applicable to every bleach character, but hierro works pretty much as armament haki, in addition to the normal reiatsu "armor" as kempachi shows, meaning the scene about attacks arent sharp/powerful enough they wont deal damage if the other is stronger by default), zomari can control someone or at leadt incapacitate, grimjaw as much as i like him he is kinda fodder, aporro is just hax incarnate but fodder at the end of the day, yami is just fodder in equal stats ngl and aaroniero is also fodder but can eat other to become the strongest. Problem, besides only by taking top5 espada win against all warlords in even stats, in even stats numbers are of great importance, and espada are 10 vs 7 warlords, there is no way warlords wins.

[@yaboiplank6764]

Didint croc intercept Mihawk and Akainu at Marineford?

[@YamaLucilfer]

im always curious about espadas/soul reapers battles and scaling/haxs though. From what i know arent they all spiritual (if this is even the right word) beings? like soul reapers arent physical but maybe meta physical. if this is true wouldnt that mean that anybody that cannot portray the meta physical/soul kind of things cant attack, much less sense or fight them? and from what i know none of the one piece people have any soul hax so they couldnt do anything to them, let alone defend themselves from their soul-like attacks. Overall, im probably wrong about everything ive said but i just want someone to educate me on this kind of thing since i never really understood it and would like to know more about it so please if you have any knowledge about anything i said please educate me thanks.

[@galaxyofizanami]

You are kind right they are spiritual beings, But if they do have enough spiritual power they can touch hear all of that stuff. For the most part people ignore that because they kind of make it unfair and we don’t know if they could or could not see them. It is still kind of annoyed that they just completely ignore the spiritual part of them. I understand the making so they can see here that stuff, but they completely ignore They go straight for the soul. So all that physical defense we see most characters do means absolutely nothing. One of the only characters that definitely has soul related attacks is a big mom. It is just she’s not making any of the hundred years old people scared.

[@zachariaravenheart]

One Piece being MFTL is actually very consistent. Best example is when Zorro dodged Kuma's Paw Paw Fruit attacks which are stated to be light speed by Kuma himself. Then with the time skip, the Straw Hats (Luffy, Zorro and Sanji specifically) show to be so much faster than the Kuma bots that they no diffed them in base. Then they have all gotten stronger and faster since then. Great video, by the way. Despite the disagreement on speed, I still enjoyed this one. These are some of my favorite topics in vs battles!

[@AtomiccKaiju]

Kuma's Paw Paw Fruit could be hyperbole from himself.

[@joshuaamerson5596]

Every feat is times 2 because they world is bigger and more dense

[@TaylorZahnd]

You do realize that there are ten espada right. Not to mention the four primal ones.

[@ChronicleGoldmask]

oh my GOD I am TIRED WITH THIS, JUST because one character beat another character that beat another character does NOT mean they have the same stats. Gon wasn't nearly as strong as Genthru, but he won due to wit and finesse, so if Killua beat Gon, is he able to break boulders with one punch? If a character has no feats that proves their AP or whatnot, then they don't scale to that unless stated otherwise!! (good video tho, i'm at 1:15)

[@lolskigames3818]

The equal stats just feels like its there to appease the OP fans kinda mainly bs

[@ChocolateYOOHOO]

Espada solo. It's not even close

[@edouard9867]

You are the man that said "Minato kcm and Hashirama are 700x faster than light due to various multipliers" but in this video you say that One piece calc scaling aren't relevant or weird...

[@sbthesage2100]

@@edouard9867 you do realize people can change opinions right ? I don’t even rep that take anymore

[@RHYS-c6b]

Was this a debate

[@coo_coo_]

any espada 6 or higher solos

[@God_Koku]

The sokyoku is stated to be able to destroy the ss which we know have celestial bodies like stars in chapter 148 easily putting this solar+ and yet base shikai ichigo in the ss casually no diffed the sokyoku and we all know any espada at that time would no diff ichigo (he literally lost to base Grimmjow after 💀) so I don't see how this is even a fight for the warlords are getting slaughtered

[@kidgoku3763]

Keep cooking but there are ways to get the ss to universal in size

[@God_Koku]

@@kidgoku3763 Yeah I just realize ep 214 of Bleach shows galaxies in the human world meaning the human world is a standard universe and since the ss was stated to be similar in size to the human world it makes it uni in size too therefore being 2 universes in bleach

[@kidgoku3763]

@@God_Koku finally someone who knows what there talking about I’ve met people who believe the soul society is only as big as katakura town

[@God_Koku]

@@kidgoku3763 Bruh lmao well at least its not as bad as people scaling Ichigoat and Aizen to mountain level 💀💀

[@kidgoku3763]

@@God_Koku I hate When people say that they don’t get that ichigo and aizen scale way above

[@beakystar2873]

Bro went over sm details w the warlords but just said some sentences about the Espada 😞

[@masonmcfadden4886]

You kinda downplaying the warlords ap and speed badly 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@sbthesage2100]

Debate me on it

[@masonmcfadden4886]

@@sbthesage2100 Doflamigo is definitely like lightspeed because he's relative to a fluffy that dodge light beams

[@sbthesage2100]

@@masonmcfadden4886 dodging light doesn’t make your combat speed light speed Buddy

[@masonmcfadden4886]

@@sbthesage2100 That definitely ain't massively hypersonic that's rel+ to light speed

[@sbthesage2100]

@@masonmcfadden4886 dodging something doesn’t mean anything for your combat speed can you not read ?

[@yaboiplank6764]

Holy Quintet (Madoka Magica) v Z Fighters?

[@yeikelamores6085]

What era Z warriors? since they go from large and superior planet at the beginning of Z to current minimum High multiversal complex+

[@throwawayaccount4009]

“well if a toddler was the same size as their dad then they could win the fight” well no crap 🤦🏻‍♂️ these “Espada VS Folks Who Can’t Blow Up Australia” videos are a joke. What’s next? The Espada VS Paw Patrol? Wonder who’s gonna win?

[@darkmenma305]

First and w vid bro

[@danielchester1109]

Do kisame vs jinbe

[@ViolenceReality]

Star Level Espada? Which means Ichigo and the gang are ALL relative to Star Level skipping planetary by a Wide margin with No feats to back it up🤦‍♂️

[@saiyanofmemes1082]

I never seen so many fallacies in one sentence before *Edit:* Well yes I have, this is a YT comment section for a powerscaling video. People attempt to be smart here all the time unfortunately

[@matinsadeghi4406]

A base cero of espada is able to destroy a star stated by grimmjow in cyfow novel

[@ViolenceReality]

@@saiyanofmemes1082are “Fallacies” something you say when you don’t have an argument? Wanna try one before calling anybody stupid?

[@ViolenceReality]

Talk about “Calc Stacking” amirite

[@marcoslightspeed5517]

​@@matinsadeghi4406it was clearly a hyperbolic statement. Cero are country level at max with statements .

[@mattmcwhirt4146]

Ap wise one piece has no chance Speed wise is better but still gets poopoo on.

[@jarofross1326]

Can't find a way to make the warlords win so you have to pull equal stats bs

[@AnimeDivanı]

Base Yami>One Piece

[@Knull575]

Not even close... Doflamingo solos

[@crisis514]

Solos what ? Yamai negs lmao

[@Knull575]

@@crisis514 you don't even know how strong Yami is lol Just because he's a bleach character you think he negs 🤦‍♂️

[@crisis514]

@@Knull575 yea just stop talking any bleach characters negs doffy its not a debate go cry in a corner somewhere

[@AtomiccKaiju]

@@crisis514 Even kon wins?

[@Meepie_Playz]

Espada solo

[@ClaytonOHara]

bro, you didn’t mention Crocoboy’s feats during the war. just Alabasta

[@sbthesage2100]

His feats in the war are unquantifiable he dosent have any real fights just clashes that don’t really mean anything for him scaling wise

[@cosmos6006]

I didn’t want to post a long response to this just so you don’t read it but in short your wrong about the one piece scaling most of it is wrong from the speed feats to the ap to the total disregard of the one piece world being much bigger then are world and I will go into much more detail if you respond so we can have a proper debate but your wrong

[@thehdtv7552]

Fax as always

[@Knull575]

Wow the warlord downplay is crazy

[@sbthesage2100]

Debate me and we’ll see if it’s downplay or not

[@StunningSummarysTop10s]

Espada solo

[@MRPOOPY1]

why was this a fight to begin with why can't you just put Escanor and against Whitebeard

[@strygwr]

Escanor negs whitebeard😂😂

[@st.michaeluche688]

Shanks >> x 10000000>>>>>> Do Flamingo

[@incogni.bro3957]

kisame vs jinbei

[@josephtung5280]

Jimbei mid diff

[@incogni.bro3957]

@@josephtung5280 naw its more of a fight if you look at it closer depending if samehada dont absorb haki

[@foreverx243]

@@incogni.bro3957 no really jimbei slams your giving jimbei a free win by making him fight kisame who uses water while jimbe would be able to control all of it

[@foreverx243]

@@incogni.bro3957 theres also a major speed difference

[@Daemoz]

You guys Calc-Stacked the Espada, we have proof the Espada were weaker than Butterfly Aizen who wasn’t by any stretch of the imagination Planet Level let alone Star level the “Evidence” for Star Level Espada is Fan Calc-Stacking and forced multipliers.

[@Nube_Negrah]

Aizen was fighting an Ichigo who slapped away a black hole. He scales far beyond planet and star level

[@Daemoz]

@@Nube_Negrah there were no genuine black holes “Distorted Space” can mean anything. Basic Captains tanked it, they Black hole level?

[@sbthesage2100]

I think that you can’t hear bc he said that is an interpretation and debated on not that he agrees one way or the other also none of that AP scaling is based of calc stacking goon

[@TocattaTotentanzMacabre]

​@@DaemozYeah this is the Bleach universe

[@manlight5035]

​@@Nube_NegrahAnd we saw how Ichigo got burnt by city block explosion so city block explosion>>>>so called "black hole"

[@bloxytata]

grimmjow one taps mid piss verse its not even a debate goodbye

[@xrim1139]

The espada are not star level it is not shown that it is a real star and is just artificial light created by aizen so the espadas scale to maybe country but are likely island if you upscale from grimmjows Rhode Island busting feat in his gran ray cero

[@sbthesage2100]

Did u miss the part where he said they range from Continental to Star level not that they are exactly Star level

[@marcoslightspeed5517]

​@@sbthesage2100there is no range reaching star level here. Its country to multi continental level only

[@xrim1139]

They barely scale to continental and I’m saying that that meta for the espada is wank and if you do that you can wank Mihawk to star level based off whitebeards feat of being able to destroy the world and the one peice earth being star sized

[@sbthesage2100]

@@xrim1139 I already mentioned that and how do they barley scale to continental 😂 once again bro just mentioned it he didn’t say they were or were not a certain level

[@xrim1139]

@@sbthesage2100 Also skypeia luffy who all of the warlords maybe excluding crocodile scale above destroyed eneru's raigo that could destroy a country

[@OtsutsukiMelvyn]

God damn I watch you a lot and I tont know why bro you font have to downplay the warlord god damn. Most of the low tier warlord are island lvl with boa jimbre and doffy being continental. While the top hitter is planetary yes planetary fight me. With the espada their easily multi continental to large planetary casually. With speed you said fuck ftl one piece I'm going to scale all of them to mhs 😭, like come on how much ftl attacks has someone got yo dodge for them to be ftl

[@sbthesage2100]

All of this scaling is utter garbage

[@pantsuuchan1169]

this take has to be the worst thing ive ever seen. watch bleach bro we can all tell you havent

[@Killerqueenhasnoweakness]

Spada solo not even close

[@JewelzCohen]

Pls don’t ever scale again

[@gamerboyxx1557]

speaker better

[@TashaneYoung-cl3vb]

Animeor manga

[@janthonybelk8553]

Otsuski vs espada

[@Knull575]

Ony gonna cover three warlords ap and speed First Jinbei Upscales from characters such as Don Chinjoa who was capable of splitting the jewel ice continent with his head making Jinbei continental bare minimum Had enough force in his attacks to sent Big Mom flying Speed Scales relative to post timeskip Fishman island arc Luffy who was calling light speed beams slow Jinbei could also fight relative to gear 2 Luffy which however you take it is a 5-10 times multiplier Making Jinbei 5-10 ftl Now we move onto Doflamingo AP Doflamingo was able to casually slice off parts of Fugitora's meteors which gets dragged from space and move at incredible speeds That could get calc to either country level - continental levels of attack potency We then see Doflamingo casually fighting gear 2 Luffy who scales to multi continental via gear multipliers Making Doflamingo multi continental in AP As for speed Was shown to out do gear 2 Luffy making him 5-10 ftl As for Mihawk AP could be compared to Yonko making him Planetary As for speed if we're gonna assume he scales close or relative to Kaido or Luffy Luffy on the rooftop post conquerors haki mastery scales above his former self who got speed blitzed and one shot by Kaido Making onigashima Luffy Mftl meaning the same for Mihawk

[@sbthesage2100]

You can disprove all this junk in like 20 min lmao

[@Knull575]

@@sbthesage2100 do it then

[@sbthesage2100]

@@Knull575 would you like to debate all of this tomorrow ?

[@thehdtv7552]

​@@Knull575bro jimbei is fodder compared to prime chinjao, he can actually fight GARP, old chinjao is a shell of his former self. Garp literally fought supreme grade blades with his fists yet trained to actually surpass chinjao's head. I know it seems insane but it's true. Also you can say OP was downplayed but so was bleach. If you have actually read both you would know just setting the espada as FTL in base is massive downplay.

[@manlight5035]

​@@thehdtv7552I watched bleach and there is no even single feat higher than island level or speed higher than hypersonic.

[@Haikami]

Highly doubt the Espada comes even close to that speed considering Ichigo after Ulquiorra was getting hit by Gin's confirmed mach 1000 Bankai. The whole "he was lying about it" thing also isn't true since the numbers he told Ichigo were confirmed in a databook and we don't know what he told Aizen. If Aaroniero dodging light makes all of the Espada lightspeed in base anyone who's stronger than base pre ts Luffy are also lightspeed

[@MythicShadow04]

No it was indeed a lie. His entire bankai works different than what it is shown in that fight with Ichigo. Not to mention, you could argue that Gin wasn't really going all out since he really had no need to kill Ichigo right there, and kept him more as a backup in case his plan failed.

[@frogoyes7611]

His blade disintegrates and then reforms by particles. Making the sword instantly just appear / disappear.

[@foreverx243]

well number one he did lie about his bankai its not mach 1000 anyways it was mach 500,and his bankai works as his blade isnt going really fast and extending it just turns into dust,while in each particle within the dust has poison that was able to hurt and stun aizen. for speed each espada should be ftl+ in this video both the warlords and espadas were downplayed but that gin feat of ichigo getting hit is just a outlier anyways since we see consistent ftl scaling,like how in the ss arc the lieutenants are able to dodge negation which is stated to be light and we already know ichigo far surpasses them as he wins against byakuya and even a kenpachi(whos holding back) we have ichigo blocking menos grande cero which is stated to be light,ichigo dodges ulqs lance which is also stated to be light speed in the databooks and ofc we have the sunlight speed feat so just in the start of bleach you alr have them at consistent ftl-ftl+ this is not including the amps and multipliers

[@Haikami]

@@foreverx243 His databook confirms the fastest form it's double the speed. The outliers here are those "lightspeed" feats, not Gin's Bankai's speed confirmed by both him and his databook. Something being called light doesn't make it lightspeed. Not to mention Candice's arrows being MUCH slower than lightning and only reaching lightning speed when using actual lightning. Grimmjow was also called fast in the novel by moving at the same speed as Candice's lightning bolt. Kinda hard to believe liutenants are ftl when Grimmjow gets complimented for moving at lightning speed, and he's much stronger than most shingami

[@ningnings_world]

@@Haikamigin’s bankai isnt 500x the speed of sound, it is 500x the speed that he claps at, so it doesnt debunk any lightspeed scaling. If anything, I would say that candice’s arrows being lightning speed is an outlier as regular shinigami in squad 2 are stated to be lightning speed, and I have a hard time believing they could move as fast as Candice’s attacks

[@manlight5035]

For one piece: "I know about MFTL scaling, but it's incorrect because it's just stucking multipliers to scale characters to infinity" For bleach: "Well Aaroniero dodged crumble of building so he is ftl, so ressurection is 10x multiplier, so everyone higher in espada scale even higher + Ulqiorra second release which is another 10x multiplier" 😂😂😂 I guess collaboration made just to avoid one dude contradicting himself. Using that method of scaling warlords can be upscaled so much, that some of them potentially can solo entire espada.

[@sbthesage2100]

I didnt have any knowledge of the bleach section before the video if im being quite honest. The Espada wouldn’t be far off from what he said tho considering Ichigo was able to block light in the soul society arc while just in base no bankai

[@manlight5035]

@@sbthesage2100 By this logic pre timeskip Zoro being completely exhausted and injured after fighting Oars could dodge light beam from Kuma litteraly avoiding direct hit fron point blank, while base ps Luffy neck dodged three of them and called them too slow. What the point?

[@sbthesage2100]

@@manlight5035 reaction speed dosent equal combat speed zoro dodging the pad cannons even if they’re light speed (highly debatable) dosent mean anything and it’s contradicted by later feats such as Luffy needing gear 4 snakeman to even keep up with kizaru’s light beams which are stated to move a light speed and again this is all combat speed has nothing to do with reactions

[@manlight5035]

@@sbthesage2100 I didn't say anything about Pad Canon, i said about light beam and reaction doesn't allow you move your body out of a area of hit, otherwise Ichigo's feat is inconsistent as well. Kizaru isn't capped at speed of light in his stats (Luffy was fighting Kizaru directly, not his light beams), people should already learn it especially when he himself shown an ability to accelerate his light form in the same chapter.

[@sbthesage2100]

@@manlight5035 I don’t even understand the first part my guy and okay my bad if you were talking about the light beam still dosent give zoro light speed combat speed and no Ichigo’s feat is not inconsistent he uses he sword to to block a ray of light this is actual combat speed he’s performing this feat in direct combat understand the difference

[@defort2208]

I got mihawk to galaxy with mftl+

[@Meepie_Playz]

He’s galaxy or MFTL+ learn to scale

[@galaxyofizanami]

@@Meepie_Playzso……very……true😅

[@kd-eh2gb]

The Warlords stomp.

[@TheAllFatherOdi]

yh keep believing that buddy

[@TocattaTotentanzMacabre]

Reiatsu Stomps. If you don't have a lot of Reiatsu you'll be split in 2 by a Shinigami's Spiritual pressure. Now none of these warlords except for probably Mihawk have Advanced haki

[@crisis514]

Another low iq anime that has no idea what he is talking about, the weakest bleach characters solo one piece verse and is not even a debate

[@Hogyer]

Starrks reiatsu is enough 😭🙏

[@Yezzzaaa]

Tanjiro victims on my screen🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@xldirty-scopez8785]

😂

[@femitaiwo6118]

🗿

[@TocattaTotentanzMacabre]

Miwa victim

[@Killerqueenhasnoweakness]

You mean tenjiro right?

[@Subhacks1st]

Bro tanjiro solos

[@fwtranq]

Fr bro

[@NoGymNeeded]

Luffy wasnt 5 times faster than lightning come on. Thats always the worst thing imo in the one piece PS community