Why The Espada VS Warlords Isn’t Close ft.

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@ginnungagapabyss5639
@ginnungagapabyss5639 5 ай бұрын
Imagine if the 7 warlords ended up reincarnating into hollows after this fight. Reborn with superior powers and abilities based on their souls, with their haki also evolving.
@revenantronin8377
@revenantronin8377 2 ай бұрын
they would be low level hollows, that's not how souls work in Bleach. No human soul automatically evolves, they need to absorb at least 100,000 souls just to reach arrancar status. That's assuming they are the dominant ego that controls the other 99,999 souls.
@ginnungagapabyss5639
@ginnungagapabyss5639 2 ай бұрын
@@revenantronin8377 I know, and since Haki is literally willpower their souls would be dominant. I did not say anything about them instantly reaching the top, they would have a massive head start with their power.
@ryandelmundo4965
@ryandelmundo4965 Ай бұрын
I think they can be born as a vasto lorde
@ginnungagapabyss5639
@ginnungagapabyss5639 Ай бұрын
@@ryandelmundo4965 right
@iswallowkids607
@iswallowkids607 Ай бұрын
@@ginnungagapabyss5639 nah a stray gillian or adjucha might squad wipe before they get the chance to evolve
@ianrowen8560
@ianrowen8560 5 ай бұрын
I think this should be common knowledge bro. The bleach verse scales massively above the one piece verse. Highest bleach characters are like solar system to universal. The highest one piece characters be like multi continental. Tldr: Espada slams
@PlayerFoe701
@PlayerFoe701 5 ай бұрын
I love these types of thumbnails man and w vid keep up the great work
@archflamingo9156
@archflamingo9156 5 ай бұрын
bro the fact that early mid bleach is already planetary to star is insane only the yonkos admirals and legends from op stand a chance
@alf0.323
@alf0.323 5 ай бұрын
💀💀💀 Planet-Star at early Bleach?!?! Absolutely 🧠 ☠️
@Xerbat.
@Xerbat. 5 ай бұрын
ur so stupid bro
@weskintime4177
@weskintime4177 4 ай бұрын
@@alf0.323Kido Canon in the one canon movie that was powered by some fodder Soul Reapers could destroy a planet and that was PRE-ARRANCAR ARC. Memories of Nobody IS canon.
@mufeezsyed2664
@mufeezsyed2664 4 ай бұрын
​@@weskintime4177why do people always forget that the captain class soul reapers need to control their power otherwise it's threat to the world itself😂. And some of the captain's were getting overpowered by arrancars.
@alexclarke-wz9nw
@alexclarke-wz9nw Ай бұрын
​@@alf0.323yama without popping bankia could destroy the whole seireitei early bleach btw
@Strudydemon
@Strudydemon Ай бұрын
aizen literally neg shanks buggy luffy and black beard in tybw
@TyrvonPulgan
@TyrvonPulgan 12 күн бұрын
newborn aizen negs ngl.
@Nube_Negrah
@Nube_Negrah 5 ай бұрын
As a Bleach fan, I don't know if I by you saying the Espada would lose with equal stats. You can directly compare Haki and Reiatsu because they are both forms of inner will and spiritual energy. Even with equal stats, every Espada member would have a way to Tag characters like crocodile and moira but also resist hax like Boa Hancocks
@vsoist
@vsoist 5 ай бұрын
Hmm haki and reiatsu is completely different , as bleach as my 3rd favourite I say your incorrect
@Nube_Negrah
@Nube_Negrah 5 ай бұрын
@@vsoist bleach being a favorite of yours doesn't change the fact that you are wrong. Haki is verbatim said to be a "mysterious power that allows the user to utilize their own spiritual energy for various purposes". Reiatsu/Reiryoku is spiritual energy in Bleach. There's a direct comparison right there
@pantsuuchan1169
@pantsuuchan1169 Ай бұрын
@@Nube_Negrahthats like saying ki and chakra are the same
@Nube_Negrah
@Nube_Negrah Ай бұрын
@@pantsuuchan1169 they're similar except in Naruto chakra comes from outside the planet unlike nature energy
@pantsuuchan1169
@pantsuuchan1169 Ай бұрын
@@Nube_Negrah but there not at all there from 2 entirely different series and at that point if you wanna go that far, they cant even see or touch the espeda their ghosts
@prynce.
@prynce. 5 ай бұрын
Baraggan by himself solos, u cant tell me otherwise simply cuz there is nothing that the Warlords are doing to bypass his Respira, and adding the other 9, it is overkill
@coo_coo_
@coo_coo_ Күн бұрын
even equal stats there’s no way they have around it.
@gman8477
@gman8477 5 ай бұрын
Nice video as always 🎉
@zachariaravenheart
@zachariaravenheart 11 күн бұрын
One Piece being MFTL is actually very consistent. Best example is when Zorro dodged Kuma's Paw Paw Fruit attacks which are stated to be light speed by Kuma himself. Then with the time skip, the Straw Hats (Luffy, Zorro and Sanji specifically) show to be so much faster than the Kuma bots that they no diffed them in base. Then they have all gotten stronger and faster since then. Great video, by the way. Despite the disagreement on speed, I still enjoyed this one. These are some of my favorite topics in vs battles!
@clinged2711
@clinged2711 5 ай бұрын
10 commandments from sds vs espada, do it now or i riot
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 5 ай бұрын
Pay for it and I gotchu
@ThePandaOfYourMind
@ThePandaOfYourMind 6 күн бұрын
In all fairness, even with equal stats, no warlord has anything to stop Barragan, since he can age even energy
@coo_coo_
@coo_coo_ Күн бұрын
100%
@darkmenma305
@darkmenma305 5 ай бұрын
First and w vid bro
@bobby31723
@bobby31723 7 күн бұрын
Even with equal stats, the espada clears. Nearly none of the warlords can fly or have insane movement abilities they can spam, unlike every single espada. HUGE mobility advantage. On top of a lot of the warlords not having a lot of spammable and effective ranged attacks as well, while every espada at the very least have balas and multiples cero variants with massive aoe. The espada are also not chumps when it come to hax. All hollows reiatsu is poisonous and need specific antibodies to prevent the soul of those damaged to erode, crumble and then dissapear. Quincies do not have those anti bodies in Bleach and Hollows are extremely dangerous to them. The characthers in OP would be very succeptible to that poison. Same with the espada every attacks damaging the very soul ,bypassing a lot of regens and durability and being able to damage Logias. And soul crush having the same effects as conqueror haki but with even more effect on the soul. As for specific hax not share by every espada: -Aaronierro isn't that much, but he could eat any espada that dies and gain their strengh ,abilities and memories , effectivelly making any other espada dying before him be quite meaningless. -Szayel creating dozens of clones of any characther that is touched by his black liquid , allies or ennemies. He could make a small army of other espada or warlord it land on. And those clones have the exact same stats and power as the original so him alone could win the battle for the espada. And he have his voodoo dolls as mentionned in the video but not nearly as impactfull. -Zommari 's amor could also be quite problematic , severely crippling or even taking out a target instantly depending where it land. -Harribel ability to create and manipulate water to an insane degree , and given how many devil fruit user there is among the warlords on top of countering Jinbei and Crocodile, she is a incredible asset. -Barragan 's power of time will also be game changing. Nothing can touch him and anyone touched by his attacks mean certain death or servere crippling for the characther. -Not really a hax , but i do need to mention Starrk's absolute spamming of thousands and thousands of cero that he can maintain for at least weeks on end. While flying above the warlords out of harms way. Along Ulquiorra absolutely giga nuking the battlefiled with multiple lanzas.
@water9653
@water9653 Күн бұрын
The espada win with or without equal stats. You're forgetting the warlords have literally 0 counter to Barragan.
@Hamzethegoat
@Hamzethegoat 23 күн бұрын
People don’t understand how broken Bleach verse is these are not pirates and ninjas they are Shinigami spiritual beings with each move attack the soul including zanpakto
@WesleyZ3
@WesleyZ3 29 күн бұрын
Fun video idea but this type of fight can only work with equal stats b/c the weakest Espada can solo most of One Piece
@thehdtv7552
@thehdtv7552 5 ай бұрын
Fax as always
@Exro.
@Exro. 5 ай бұрын
Do Sternritters vs Naruto and One Piece
@Guns66
@Guns66 5 ай бұрын
Sternritters solo.
@crisis514
@crisis514 4 ай бұрын
Sternritter negs lol
@thegreaterconsciousness5997
@thegreaterconsciousness5997 5 ай бұрын
Dude you should’ve included Law and Blackbeard not saying anything changes but I know for a fact they scale higher as warlords than city level crocodile and Moria
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 5 ай бұрын
Bro it was mad work 😭 and not really the orginal group so I didn’t
@thegreaterconsciousness5997
@thegreaterconsciousness5997 5 ай бұрын
@@sbthesage2100 yuh I feel you
@throwawayaccount4009
@throwawayaccount4009 Ай бұрын
“well if a toddler was the same size as their dad then they could win the fight” well no crap 🤦🏻‍♂️ these “Espada VS Folks Who Can’t Blow Up Australia” videos are a joke. What’s next? The Espada VS Paw Patrol? Wonder who’s gonna win?
@yaboiplank6764
@yaboiplank6764 4 ай бұрын
Didint croc intercept Mihawk and Akainu at Marineford?
@st.michaeluche688
@st.michaeluche688 5 күн бұрын
Espada clears negative difficulty
@defort2208
@defort2208 2 ай бұрын
I got mihawk to galaxy with mftl+
@coo_coo_
@coo_coo_ Күн бұрын
any espada 6 or higher solos
@danielchester1109
@danielchester1109 5 ай бұрын
Do kisame vs jinbe
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 5 ай бұрын
youtube.com/@TheRogueGuy?si=cIzkeW3EjwAgGaUP go sub to Rogue !
@yaboiplank6764
@yaboiplank6764 4 ай бұрын
Holy Quintet (Madoka Magica) v Z Fighters?
@yeikelamores6085
@yeikelamores6085 3 ай бұрын
What era Z warriors? since they go from large and superior planet at the beginning of Z to current minimum High multiversal complex+
@PoH27
@PoH27 5 ай бұрын
mihawk is deadass carrying😂
@ClaytonOHara
@ClaytonOHara 4 ай бұрын
Crocoboy and Doffy aren’t pushovers, bruh
@crisis514
@crisis514 4 ай бұрын
@@ClaytonOHaralet them spout there nonsense
@pantsuuchan1169
@pantsuuchan1169 Ай бұрын
@@ClaytonOHarain the eyes of the espada they afe
@alphaomega1210
@alphaomega1210 21 күн бұрын
@@pantsuuchan1169 He completely skipped over doffy and gear 4 multipliers that range from 3 to 4 times on top of gear 2.
@pantsuuchan1169
@pantsuuchan1169 20 күн бұрын
@@alphaomega1210 they are fodder compared to ulqiorra grimjow any of the espeda starrk prolly wven nnoitra
@Guns66
@Guns66 5 ай бұрын
Hanataro solos all of One Piece.
@janthonybelk8553
@janthonybelk8553 5 ай бұрын
Otsuski vs espada
@God_Koku
@God_Koku 4 ай бұрын
The sokyoku is stated to be able to destroy the ss which we know have celestial bodies like stars in chapter 148 easily putting this solar+ and yet base shikai ichigo in the ss casually no diffed the sokyoku and we all know any espada at that time would no diff ichigo (he literally lost to base Grimmjow after 💀) so I don't see how this is even a fight for the warlords are getting slaughtered
@kidgoku3763
@kidgoku3763 10 күн бұрын
Keep cooking but there are ways to get the ss to universal in size
@God_Koku
@God_Koku 10 күн бұрын
@@kidgoku3763 Yeah I just realize ep 214 of Bleach shows galaxies in the human world meaning the human world is a standard universe and since the ss was stated to be similar in size to the human world it makes it uni in size too therefore being 2 universes in bleach
@kidgoku3763
@kidgoku3763 10 күн бұрын
@@God_Koku finally someone who knows what there talking about I’ve met people who believe the soul society is only as big as katakura town
@God_Koku
@God_Koku 9 күн бұрын
@@kidgoku3763 Bruh lmao well at least its not as bad as people scaling Ichigoat and Aizen to mountain level 💀💀
@kidgoku3763
@kidgoku3763 8 күн бұрын
@@God_Koku I hate When people say that they don’t get that ichigo and aizen scale way above
@cosmos6006
@cosmos6006 4 ай бұрын
I didn’t want to post a long response to this just so you don’t read it but in short your wrong about the one piece scaling most of it is wrong from the speed feats to the ap to the total disregard of the one piece world being much bigger then are world and I will go into much more detail if you respond so we can have a proper debate but your wrong
@mattmcwhirt4146
@mattmcwhirt4146 5 ай бұрын
Ap wise one piece has no chance Speed wise is better but still gets poopoo on.
@TashaneYoung-cl3vb
@TashaneYoung-cl3vb 5 ай бұрын
Animeor manga
@incogni.bro3957
@incogni.bro3957 5 ай бұрын
kisame vs jinbei
@josephtung5280
@josephtung5280 5 ай бұрын
Jimbei mid diff
@incogni.bro3957
@incogni.bro3957 5 ай бұрын
@@josephtung5280 naw its more of a fight if you look at it closer depending if samehada dont absorb haki
@foreverx243
@foreverx243 5 ай бұрын
@@incogni.bro3957 no really jimbei slams your giving jimbei a free win by making him fight kisame who uses water while jimbe would be able to control all of it
@foreverx243
@foreverx243 5 ай бұрын
@@incogni.bro3957 theres also a major speed difference
@NoGymNeeded
@NoGymNeeded 5 ай бұрын
Luffy wasnt 5 times faster than lightning come on. Thats always the worst thing imo in the one piece PS community
@OtsutsukiMelvyn
@OtsutsukiMelvyn 5 ай бұрын
God damn I watch you a lot and I tont know why bro you font have to downplay the warlord god damn. Most of the low tier warlord are island lvl with boa jimbre and doffy being continental. While the top hitter is planetary yes planetary fight me. With the espada their easily multi continental to large planetary casually. With speed you said fuck ftl one piece I'm going to scale all of them to mhs 😭, like come on how much ftl attacks has someone got yo dodge for them to be ftl
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 5 ай бұрын
All of this scaling is utter garbage
@pantsuuchan1169
@pantsuuchan1169 Ай бұрын
this take has to be the worst thing ive ever seen. watch bleach bro we can all tell you havent
5 ай бұрын
Base Yami>One Piece
@Knull575
@Knull575 5 ай бұрын
Not even close... Doflamingo solos
@crisis514
@crisis514 4 ай бұрын
Solos what ? Yamai negs lmao
@Knull575
@Knull575 4 ай бұрын
@@crisis514 you don't even know how strong Yami is lol Just because he's a bleach character you think he negs 🤦‍♂️
@crisis514
@crisis514 4 ай бұрын
@@Knull575 yea just stop talking any bleach characters negs doffy its not a debate go cry in a corner somewhere
@StunningSummarysTop10s
@StunningSummarysTop10s 5 ай бұрын
Espada solo
@xrim1139
@xrim1139 5 ай бұрын
The espada are not star level it is not shown that it is a real star and is just artificial light created by aizen so the espadas scale to maybe country but are likely island if you upscale from grimmjows Rhode Island busting feat in his gran ray cero
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 5 ай бұрын
Did u miss the part where he said they range from Continental to Star level not that they are exactly Star level
@marcoslightspeed5517
@marcoslightspeed5517 5 ай бұрын
​@@sbthesage2100there is no range reaching star level here. Its country to multi continental level only
@xrim1139
@xrim1139 5 ай бұрын
They barely scale to continental and I’m saying that that meta for the espada is wank and if you do that you can wank Mihawk to star level based off whitebeards feat of being able to destroy the world and the one peice earth being star sized
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 5 ай бұрын
@@xrim1139 I already mentioned that and how do they barley scale to continental 😂 once again bro just mentioned it he didn’t say they were or were not a certain level
@xrim1139
@xrim1139 5 ай бұрын
@@sbthesage2100 Also skypeia luffy who all of the warlords maybe excluding crocodile scale above destroyed eneru's raigo that could destroy a country
@Knull575
@Knull575 5 ай бұрын
Wow the warlord downplay is crazy
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 5 ай бұрын
Debate me and we’ll see if it’s downplay or not
@Big_Cain
@Big_Cain 5 ай бұрын
Espada: Skill, Experience, IQ, Range, AP, DC, Hax, Abilities, Power, Speed, & Durability. 7 Warlords: Skill, Experience, BIQ, & Abilities.
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 5 ай бұрын
Other than speed you got it right
@Big_Cain
@Big_Cain 5 ай бұрын
@@sbthesage2100I knew I made a mistake somewhere. Thank you so much I love your videos.❤️
@foreverx243
@foreverx243 5 ай бұрын
@@cjcj4861 the warlords get shit on by espada its not even close
@MoloBolo-nl6kx
@MoloBolo-nl6kx 4 ай бұрын
How do Warlords have more experiences 😭 the Espadas where all once Hollows who lived in Mundo for at least a over hundred Years even rukia is like 151 well currently I think she's 170 years old or close to that either way Espadas takes experience, Skills they take pretty much everything
@st.michaeluche688
@st.michaeluche688 5 күн бұрын
Shanks >> x 10000000>>>>>> Do Flamingo
@masonmcfadden4886
@masonmcfadden4886 5 ай бұрын
You kinda downplaying the warlords ap and speed badly 🤦🏾‍♂️
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 5 ай бұрын
Debate me on it
@masonmcfadden4886
@masonmcfadden4886 5 ай бұрын
@@sbthesage2100 Doflamigo is definitely like lightspeed because he's relative to a fluffy that dodge light beams
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 5 ай бұрын
@@masonmcfadden4886 dodging light doesn’t make your combat speed light speed Buddy
@masonmcfadden4886
@masonmcfadden4886 5 ай бұрын
@@sbthesage2100 That definitely ain't massively hypersonic that's rel+ to light speed
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 5 ай бұрын
@@masonmcfadden4886 dodging something doesn’t mean anything for your combat speed can you not read ?
@ClaytonOHara
@ClaytonOHara 4 ай бұрын
bro, you didn’t mention Crocoboy’s feats during the war. just Alabasta
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 4 ай бұрын
His feats in the war are unquantifiable he dosent have any real fights just clashes that don’t really mean anything for him scaling wise
@mrpoopy1817
@mrpoopy1817 5 ай бұрын
why was this a fight to begin with why can't you just put Escanor and against Whitebeard
@Haikami
@Haikami 5 ай бұрын
Highly doubt the Espada comes even close to that speed considering Ichigo after Ulquiorra was getting hit by Gin's confirmed mach 1000 Bankai. The whole "he was lying about it" thing also isn't true since the numbers he told Ichigo were confirmed in a databook and we don't know what he told Aizen. If Aaroniero dodging light makes all of the Espada lightspeed in base anyone who's stronger than base pre ts Luffy are also lightspeed
@MythicShadow04
@MythicShadow04 5 ай бұрын
No it was indeed a lie. His entire bankai works different than what it is shown in that fight with Ichigo. Not to mention, you could argue that Gin wasn't really going all out since he really had no need to kill Ichigo right there, and kept him more as a backup in case his plan failed.
@frogoyes7611
@frogoyes7611 5 ай бұрын
His blade disintegrates and then reforms by particles. Making the sword instantly just appear / disappear.
@foreverx243
@foreverx243 5 ай бұрын
well number one he did lie about his bankai its not mach 1000 anyways it was mach 500,and his bankai works as his blade isnt going really fast and extending it just turns into dust,while in each particle within the dust has poison that was able to hurt and stun aizen. for speed each espada should be ftl+ in this video both the warlords and espadas were downplayed but that gin feat of ichigo getting hit is just a outlier anyways since we see consistent ftl scaling,like how in the ss arc the lieutenants are able to dodge negation which is stated to be light and we already know ichigo far surpasses them as he wins against byakuya and even a kenpachi(whos holding back) we have ichigo blocking menos grande cero which is stated to be light,ichigo dodges ulqs lance which is also stated to be light speed in the databooks and ofc we have the sunlight speed feat so just in the start of bleach you alr have them at consistent ftl-ftl+ this is not including the amps and multipliers
@Haikami
@Haikami 5 ай бұрын
@@foreverx243 His databook confirms the fastest form it's double the speed. The outliers here are those "lightspeed" feats, not Gin's Bankai's speed confirmed by both him and his databook. Something being called light doesn't make it lightspeed. Not to mention Candice's arrows being MUCH slower than lightning and only reaching lightning speed when using actual lightning. Grimmjow was also called fast in the novel by moving at the same speed as Candice's lightning bolt. Kinda hard to believe liutenants are ftl when Grimmjow gets complimented for moving at lightning speed, and he's much stronger than most shingami
@ningningfish06
@ningningfish06 5 ай бұрын
@@Haikamigin’s bankai isnt 500x the speed of sound, it is 500x the speed that he claps at, so it doesnt debunk any lightspeed scaling. If anything, I would say that candice’s arrows being lightning speed is an outlier as regular shinigami in squad 2 are stated to be lightning speed, and I have a hard time believing they could move as fast as Candice’s attacks
@Kuro-zz1xk
@Kuro-zz1xk 5 ай бұрын
Tanjiro victims on my screen🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@xldirty-scopez8785
@xldirty-scopez8785 5 ай бұрын
😂
@femitaiwo6118
@femitaiwo6118 5 ай бұрын
🗿
@Guns66
@Guns66 5 ай бұрын
Miwa victim
@Daemoz
@Daemoz 5 ай бұрын
You guys Calc-Stacked the Espada, we have proof the Espada were weaker than Butterfly Aizen who wasn’t by any stretch of the imagination Planet Level let alone Star level the “Evidence” for Star Level Espada is Fan Calc-Stacking and forced multipliers.
@Nube_Negrah
@Nube_Negrah 5 ай бұрын
Aizen was fighting an Ichigo who slapped away a black hole. He scales far beyond planet and star level
@Daemoz
@Daemoz 5 ай бұрын
@@Nube_Negrah there were no genuine black holes “Distorted Space” can mean anything. Basic Captains tanked it, they Black hole level?
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 5 ай бұрын
I think that you can’t hear bc he said that is an interpretation and debated on not that he agrees one way or the other also none of that AP scaling is based of calc stacking goon
@Guns66
@Guns66 5 ай бұрын
​@@DaemozYeah this is the Bleach universe
@manlight5035
@manlight5035 5 ай бұрын
​@@Nube_NegrahAnd we saw how Ichigo got burnt by city block explosion so city block explosion>>>>so called "black hole"
@kd-eh2gb
@kd-eh2gb 5 ай бұрын
The Warlords stomp.
@JustZhade
@JustZhade 5 ай бұрын
yh keep believing that buddy
@Guns66
@Guns66 5 ай бұрын
Reiatsu Stomps. If you don't have a lot of Reiatsu you'll be split in 2 by a Shinigami's Spiritual pressure. Now none of these warlords except for probably Mihawk have Advanced haki
@crisis514
@crisis514 4 ай бұрын
Another low iq anime that has no idea what he is talking about, the weakest bleach characters solo one piece verse and is not even a debate
@ViolenceReality
@ViolenceReality 5 ай бұрын
Star Level Espada? Which means Ichigo and the gang are ALL relative to Star Level skipping planetary by a Wide margin with No feats to back it up🤦‍♂️
@saiyanofmemes1082
@saiyanofmemes1082 5 ай бұрын
I never seen so many fallacies in one sentence before *Edit:* Well yes I have, this is a YT comment section for a powerscaling video. People attempt to be smart here all the time unfortunately
@matinsadeghi4406
@matinsadeghi4406 5 ай бұрын
A base cero of espada is able to destroy a star stated by grimmjow in cyfow novel
@ViolenceReality
@ViolenceReality 5 ай бұрын
@@saiyanofmemes1082are “Fallacies” something you say when you don’t have an argument? Wanna try one before calling anybody stupid?
@ViolenceReality
@ViolenceReality 5 ай бұрын
Talk about “Calc Stacking” amirite
@marcoslightspeed5517
@marcoslightspeed5517 5 ай бұрын
​@@matinsadeghi4406it was clearly a hyperbolic statement. Cero are country level at max with statements .
@Knull575
@Knull575 5 ай бұрын
Ony gonna cover three warlords ap and speed First Jinbei Upscales from characters such as Don Chinjoa who was capable of splitting the jewel ice continent with his head making Jinbei continental bare minimum Had enough force in his attacks to sent Big Mom flying Speed Scales relative to post timeskip Fishman island arc Luffy who was calling light speed beams slow Jinbei could also fight relative to gear 2 Luffy which however you take it is a 5-10 times multiplier Making Jinbei 5-10 ftl Now we move onto Doflamingo AP Doflamingo was able to casually slice off parts of Fugitora's meteors which gets dragged from space and move at incredible speeds That could get calc to either country level - continental levels of attack potency We then see Doflamingo casually fighting gear 2 Luffy who scales to multi continental via gear multipliers Making Doflamingo multi continental in AP As for speed Was shown to out do gear 2 Luffy making him 5-10 ftl As for Mihawk AP could be compared to Yonko making him Planetary As for speed if we're gonna assume he scales close or relative to Kaido or Luffy Luffy on the rooftop post conquerors haki mastery scales above his former self who got speed blitzed and one shot by Kaido Making onigashima Luffy Mftl meaning the same for Mihawk
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 5 ай бұрын
You can disprove all this junk in like 20 min lmao
@Knull575
@Knull575 5 ай бұрын
@@sbthesage2100 do it then
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 5 ай бұрын
@@Knull575 would you like to debate all of this tomorrow ?
@thehdtv7552
@thehdtv7552 5 ай бұрын
​@@Knull575bro jimbei is fodder compared to prime chinjao, he can actually fight GARP, old chinjao is a shell of his former self. Garp literally fought supreme grade blades with his fists yet trained to actually surpass chinjao's head. I know it seems insane but it's true. Also you can say OP was downplayed but so was bleach. If you have actually read both you would know just setting the espada as FTL in base is massive downplay.
@manlight5035
@manlight5035 5 ай бұрын
​@@thehdtv7552I watched bleach and there is no even single feat higher than island level or speed higher than hypersonic.
@Luffy5th
@Luffy5th 5 ай бұрын
Bro tanjiro solos
@peaceislove.
@peaceislove. 28 күн бұрын
Fr bro
@manlight5035
@manlight5035 5 ай бұрын
For one piece: "I know about MFTL scaling, but it's incorrect because it's just stucking multipliers to scale characters to infinity" For bleach: "Well Aaroniero dodged crumble of building so he is ftl, so ressurection is 10x multiplier, so everyone higher in espada scale even higher + Ulqiorra second release which is another 10x multiplier" 😂😂😂 I guess collaboration made just to avoid one dude contradicting himself. Using that method of scaling warlords can be upscaled so much, that some of them potentially can solo entire espada.
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 5 ай бұрын
I didnt have any knowledge of the bleach section before the video if im being quite honest. The Espada wouldn’t be far off from what he said tho considering Ichigo was able to block light in the soul society arc while just in base no bankai
@manlight5035
@manlight5035 5 ай бұрын
@@sbthesage2100 By this logic pre timeskip Zoro being completely exhausted and injured after fighting Oars could dodge light beam from Kuma litteraly avoiding direct hit fron point blank, while base ps Luffy neck dodged three of them and called them too slow. What the point?
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 5 ай бұрын
@@manlight5035 reaction speed dosent equal combat speed zoro dodging the pad cannons even if they’re light speed (highly debatable) dosent mean anything and it’s contradicted by later feats such as Luffy needing gear 4 snakeman to even keep up with kizaru’s light beams which are stated to move a light speed and again this is all combat speed has nothing to do with reactions
@manlight5035
@manlight5035 5 ай бұрын
@@sbthesage2100 I didn't say anything about Pad Canon, i said about light beam and reaction doesn't allow you move your body out of a area of hit, otherwise Ichigo's feat is inconsistent as well. Kizaru isn't capped at speed of light in his stats (Luffy was fighting Kizaru directly, not his light beams), people should already learn it especially when he himself shown an ability to accelerate his light form in the same chapter.
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 5 ай бұрын
@@manlight5035 I don’t even understand the first part my guy and okay my bad if you were talking about the light beam still dosent give zoro light speed combat speed and no Ichigo’s feat is not inconsistent he uses he sword to to block a ray of light this is actual combat speed he’s performing this feat in direct combat understand the difference
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