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[@firebald2915]

Your lead-ins with a jet profile is so Great. Screensaver Gold! Thanks, GS !

[@justanotherguyonyoutube9755]

What happened to the links where we can download this awesome missions? I absolutely loved that

[@FighterOperationsGroupFOG]

do you still need DCS open beta to run mods?

[@numberyellow]

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[@Jerimiah10]

Yo GS. Love the content and your presentation. My request is a PVP F5 v F4 fox-1 dog fight.

[@lightspeedvictory]

“Please resist the urge to point out that this is the F-4E.” Ok, what about the urge to point out most the ships in the fleet are Iowa class battleships?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Looool also resist that urge. There are limitations in the simulation.

[@lowellarnett3172]

Nice

[@ifly135]

The New Jersey was absolutely used in Vietnam.

[@stevemc6010]

US Navy if it was still cool

[@facemcshooty3046]

@@ifly135 Yes but there were only 4 Iowas, and I count 6 in this fleet. Perhaps this simulation is assuming Illinois and Kentucky were finished

[@Eden_North]

Had to jump back when I saw the 59 on the island. CV-59 USS Forrestal. Man, so awesome seeing you land on that. Served with the Marine detachment on her from 86-88. Really loved that time of my life.

[@ericx777]

Don't you mean USS FORRESTFIRE? ;) Man, Ida loved to serve on a carrier... even as a babysitter... er, Marine. Beats the steamy barracks I had in GA, NC and FL. Fmr Army Ranger here (87-93)... thank YOU for your sacrifice, brother!

[@keimahane]

I served on USS Independence CV-62, also a Forrestal Class CV, in Japan from 93-97. It was the only carrier I served on in my 28 years as my Rate/NECs kept me in the FFG/DDG world the rest of the time. Indy was by far the noisiest, hottest, dirtiest, smelliest tour of my career, but I wouldn't trade it for the world.

[@Chris_Hood]

Looked like a Number 3 cable arrest to me at the end. Bravo-Zulu

[@kingscorpion7346]

YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT THE NAVAL VARIENT! 😂😂😂 (sorry, I just had to do that)

[@ronaldkonkoma4356]

You know that's not the spelling of variant

[@donaldtaeger918]

I believe that was mentioned in the first minute of the video.

[@mattstarr5975]

But you have to admit, the Navy paint scheme makes a Phantom look downright AWESOME!!!

[@JohnCampbell]

@@donaldtaeger918 you have arrived at the joke, welcome!

[@Jay2Breezy-eh3lk]

Zesty

[@chrisf5841]

Nice landing!. You even managed to get the 3-wire.

[@michaelpowell1506]

The U.S. rules of engagement in Vietnam required *visual* ID because IFF was unreliable and there had been some friendly fire incidents early on. That often put the Phantoms of parameters for Sparrow missile shots.

[@timonsolus]

'out' of parameters

[@cc-ot4bw]

can we talk about how the carrier group had ALL FOUR of the Iowa class battleships!

[@SimGaming555]

9:56 I usually just turn off interlock and forget about the shoot cue and I've gotten a few kills that way

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Interesting I thought that would always result in a wasted missile. I’ll give it a try.

[@ReflectedSimulations]

@@GrowlingSidewinder It's part of the fence in checklist in the F-4J manual, I mean to turn it off

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

@@ReflectedSimulations that's really interesting to know, I'm going to start making a habit of turning it off, lets see I can get some sparrow kills now.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thank you both of you for teaching me something new.

[@ReflectedSimulations]

@@GrowlingSidewinder don't forget, you'll still need to count the potatoes :)

[@TehCheezMan]

I find sparrows (especially earlier variants) rarely work when fighting on the deck. I almost prefer to lead with sparrows when I have a better chance of getting a head on shot from higher altitudes and loot goblin my sidewinders away until I get into closer quarters. Awesome video!

[@chrisdouglas4427]

How about F-4 Desert Storm Wild Wiesel Mission. Or an A4 CAS mission.

[@user-vv9zh6yn1p]

I counted 6 Iowa class Battleships this must be a different timeline where all 6 of the originally planned Iowa's were built instead of just 4

[@mopardude824]

Don't really think that carrier group needs any defending with all four Iowa class battleships that were ever built escorting it. lol! (This is a joke)

[@lightspeedvictory]

From what I could tell, there were at least 7, so throw in the Illinois and Kentucky as well as several fictional ones. Then again, by this point in history, the Iowa’s didn’t have any area air defense capability and they never had any ASW ability so…

[@SldgeHammr]

I noticed this too lol some real “I’m not locked in here with you. You’re locked in here with me.” Vibes

[@lukejohnston4666]

​@@lightspeedvictory USS Montana 😊

[@stevemc6010]

​@@lightspeedvictoryonly four actually built, rest were scrapped/converted what was made of the keels

[@timonsolus]

@@lightspeedvictory : The North Vietnamese had a total of 4 IL-28 'Beagle' twin engine bombers (Soviet equivalent of the Canberra bomber). An Iowa's WW2 era AA guns would have been sufficient against them.

[@lukeunterkofler106]

Finally gets an ideal sparrow shot and then the sparrow does the sparrow thing and tracks the ocean 😂😂

[@ospreys48]

Awesome video. I would love to see this type of scenario start on the ship.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Unfortunately not possible due to the f4e not being carrier capable.

[@ospreys48]

@@GrowlingSidewinder thanks for the response. In general though, I really enjoy scenario based missions. Start on the ground, go through a cold start, scramble and destroy 😃

[@PFSquirrel]

@@GrowlingSidewinder You could park on the rear deck, brakes on, max throttle & release and see what happens

[@cgilleybsw]

dcs continues to amaze me. back in the early 90s, someone wrote a flight sim on dec workstations. It was all wireframe. even then, after 5pm, Allen and me would go head to head. It was good enough to get vertigo at times :).

[@JJJackson-lz1te]

First deck landing gets you the 3 wire?!?! Nice Trap!!!

[@danielheald411]

The F4 Phantom was at one time the worlds largest distributor of Mig parts.

[@NOTAnother_Kyle]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@nathanworthington4451]

You'd think that joke would get old being said on every single f4 video. And it does.

[@yurackjung9321]

@@nathanworthington4451 and who tf cares

[@nathanworthington4451]

@@yurackjung9321 Whoa calm down sweety it's ok.

[@jedimasterjoe5386]

@nathanworthington4451 You got problems

[@benson4820]

Day 2 of asking for a video involving Super Hornets carrying the recently operational AIM-174s

[@Dingalnut556]

Love this dudes vids

[@Ifoughtpiranhas]

I guess I'll be Captain Obvious and point out that there wouldn't be that many Iowa class battleships in that battle group during the Vietnam era. Now give me three cheers for the F-4J Phantom!

[@AviationXA10]

hip hip hory hip hip hory hip hip horay

[@MGPW01]

I also thought those were the largest and best shipartillery equipped destroyerscreens I had ever seen.

[@brockmiller574]

Was just listening to an interview with Pete Petigrew. Seems timely

[@caseybennett3827]

R.I.P. Viper

[@mikemontgomery2654]

That was a nice landing for the first time on a carrier, with the Phantom. I never get tired of that jet.

[@Agent_Rolias856]

Oh hey Phantom doing a naval fleet stu- IS THAT THE USS MISSOURI?!!!

[@Telyzan]

amazing stopping on the carrier! Even without a tail hook!! haha

[@docholliday1811]

Great video, as always, you never disappoint.

[@whalehands4779]

Instead of Bitching Betty, the Phantom had the ear test pitches and morning alarm as its settings.

[@citadel9611]

Thank you, good to be back.

[@joshuapemberton6765]

That's an F-4E intended for the USAF and not a naval variant. Sorry, couldn't resist but you asked for it. LOL Great Video man and thanks GS!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Looooool there is always one

[@SmedleyDouwright]

Did the Navy have a Phantom with a built in gun?

[@jessejacobsen01]

Really liked this one. Nice to see a big furball above the carrier group. Also cool to see where you were merged with 2 bandits and how your wingman affects the dog fight. Would be cool to see more merges where each guy has a wingman.

[@dvaritek434]

Lead sled rolling coal on approach is always a thing of beauty. Great vid.

[@Impulse21s]

You even caught the 3 wire! Great job!

[@citadel9611]

Whoever is playing that insane six string bass at the end of this video: Salute to you!!!

[@Rufus6540]

Nice trap! Caught the 3 wire and everything!

[@cygnus_x1187]

That's a lot of Iowas...😄

[@JunkoXan]

New Jersey, Iowa and Missouri, there's your 3 Iowa classes that can be dictated on 5:24 :)

[@lilletrille8998]

That carrier landing looked awesome! I have not tried it yet..but looks fun.

[@ComSubGru9]

Be great to have more of this in the perspective of the Hornet, Tomcat, Su-27 etc. Great video as always.

[@IronMan-xm3lg]

You did a great job on that landing 👏 Top Gun style.......!

[@JohnB-mo4kq]

My uncle flew the F-4 during Vietnam, he took all the details of his missions to his grave. I'm assuming they were top secret.

[@nsr.worldwide]

Outstanding landing sir!

[@bc3713]

3rd wire bud!!!! Class ride and class landing. Cheers

[@RandallRoman]

Have you thought of getting the authentic Navy Phantom experience by flying with no rounds in the gun? I'd like to see that.

[@MrZeek1519]

FWIW, you helped the fleet even though you weren't the one to shoot down that last plane. You essentially kept him busy enough so he couldn't get a shot on the fleet, and distracted him enough to allow the ships to shoot him down. Still a great job in my book!!

[@stephenhoda3362]

Good landing! Congrats.

[@TheMailmanOfSteel]

"I may just smoke the back of the deck..." Hits the 3 wire like an absolute Chad.

[@GladBeastBoy]

that save was a payed actor 😂that was way too cool

[@icaleinns6233]

Nice! Even caught the #3 wire!

[@mackjsm7105]

This was intense!

[@DeeSnow97]

gs: "i've never done a carrier landing before, with the f-4, so y'know, we'll see how this goes. i might just smoke the back of the carrier, [nervous laugh], we'll see how this plays out" also gs: does a picture perfect landing

[@lowellarnett3172]

Good one!

[@paulbeckett7517]

Nice landing!

[@E-Lighterswon]

Awesome demo.

[@carterminter7814]

Thanks!

[@worldbreaker1023]

Nice carrier landing and what a stylish split S style tank drop. Bravo! You make this look too easy mate

[@jettblack9696]

Also for future references if you use the f-4e for navel ops just call it that j model and bring a gun pod on the belly nobody will know

[@ladislavbursa5278]

Before TOPGUN, Navy F-4 Phantom II fighter crews in Vietnam managed only a 2.5:1 kill ratio versus Soviet-built MiG-17 and MiG-21 fighters

[@Dr-Thing]

Amazing landing

[@trschreck]

tried to resist the urge to point out that if the bogeys ever get that close to the fleet, someone has already lost their job.

[@Lilililincy]

《Didn't Land Successfully With This Thing》 but hooked the 3rd rope😅

[@kippnashleymiller3752]

I love the E! I worked on that beautiful brick. I can honestly say I don’t recall any of our 100+ WW’s taking off without a centerline. It needed the 600 gallons to get in the air.

[@rvnerd7671]

Nice trap for first one, GS, salute.

[@anthonyross9276]

nice carrier landing bud!

[@radioactive9861]

I LOVE the F4 Phantom. I really wish hollywood would do a movie about Operation BOLO/General(at the time of Operation BOLO I believe he was a Colonel)Robin Olds. Robin Olds is a LEGEND in the Air Force/Army Air Corps!!!!

[@martyschrader]

"...never done a carrier landing..." as he catches the #3 wire. Yeeeah.

[@mikejames4648]

6 Iowa's in that formation? Impressive, most impressive, especially since they only ever built 4 of them.

[@jarednelson1634]

this is cool and thank you for making it the F-4 was s back bown plane for years

[@pleaseadoptus]

Steve Ritchie said he loved the Sparrow. Got all 5 kills with them so YMMV.

[@subataii]

Nice landing.

[@waynevan7050]

No surprise that a ship killed that last MIG, with all of the AA guns down below it.

[@laymanengineer7502]

Stuck the landing huh? Nice!

[@republicofustio4381]

Just waiting for the video with the AIM-174

[@Liberty_or_Ded]

Whenever I think of the Sparrow, I think of a literal sparrow, but it's braindamaged.

[@CypherC300]

I'd like to see a video in which you are able to get the Sparrows working.

[@Kiwigrunt]

Such an aesthetically beautiful aircraft.

[@curtisbartlett8170]

That landing is going to leave a scar

[@arguy3297]

Cant wait until we get the F4S too. The only thing I want in the F4E is a pulse doppler radar.

[@cladbecaha]

I’d trade the sparrows for an extra lunch box.

[@DAVE496]

You do a lot of air to ground missions how about doing a anti-ship mission?

[@xX_Gravity_Xx]

I hope (in futility) that mods for all of the unique F-4 variants are made. They don't even have to be good for me to use them lol. The F-4B, F-4B(2) w/gun, the F-4G, F-4J, F-4H (2000) and the F-4 Terminator, come to mind. Kind of like how every freaking variant of Flanker is available. But, I know, the difference being that the Flanker is an FC aircraft, and probably way easier to work on, if modding the Phantom is possible at all. I do love this aircraft though. Even as I grow and my appetite for this kind of thing gets lower and lower, the Hornet, the Sabre, the Phantom, and the MiG-15, and MiG-19 keep pulling me back in anyway.

[@user-el7xm9yf4h]

buena simulación, gracias, saludos.

[@ScabNainz]

I didn't know that the Sea Sparrow was an option on the F-4 loadout...

[@daszieher]

11:03 just a couple of seconds longer and you'd have been under him and would have pointed the nose up getting a better radar return and aiding the Sparrow in avoiding the water. "We'll see how this plays out..." and the proceeds to snag the 3 wire.😂

[@Azframer]

The early Sparrows lead to many pilots becoming airline pilots I am betting.

[@BigDaddyG1738]

By the way I've been enjoying the Thunderbirds this fourth of July and the F35 lightning 2. Aka Fat Amy. Usually we get the Blue Angels but this year we got the Birds back I haven't seen them in a couple years. One of the advantages of living within a mile of a National Guard base and Airport.

[@SldgeHammr]

GS I’d love to see some 2v2 pvp guns only

[@paulyanchuk294]

A nice tribute would be the skin for Showtime 100

[@Mav09]

F/A-18E/F vs F-35C (Fox-2 fight) would be epic to see! Navy vs Navy : Old vs New Day 63

[@NOSHER]

Great what if Navy F4E 😊

[@SgtJazz-mr6wr]

Per Dan Hampton (first CO of Top Gun) the F4 did its best in the vertical and they referred it to the “Killer Egg.”

[@ezstming]

I Noticed your carrier fleet has (5) Iowa class battleships...NICE!I

[@jakey-poo401]

If you could learn the sparrow and make a tutorial about its potential usage in a dogfight you’d be helping a ton of people out. I’ve played around with it and have gotten to the point where (single player vs. various aircraft) I can use it pretty much exclusively as a dogfight missile. If you wanna mess around with it I’d be happy and excited to try it out in a PvP testbed.

[@Cyphxn]

we need a video with the aim-174 🙏

[@foddersfollies7494]

I'm more concerned that you have all of the Iowa classes in a single task force. But that's just me.

[@jameshendrixmizfit7364]

Can you do Operation Bolo. The mission lead by Robin Olds. Vietnamese thought it was jugs coming and surprise it's all F4 Phantoms

[@JDudek69]

Will you be doing a video featuring the Air Forces new missile the AIM-174?

[@mikes989]

GS, new episode of Military Acceptance, about the Su-30SM2

[@plumtube01]

Firstly, you owe your wingman a beer. Or several. Secondly, screw the sparrow unless its a gimme. Probably better off just setting yourself up for a gun solution against a Mig 21.

[@michaeldrewery5824]

Good trap!

[@swathdiver489]

Glad to see the Forrestal albeit in her 1980s configuration.

[@F4110utJunk13]

Don't forget that a lot of the problems with the Sparrows in Vietnam came down to ROE