Why the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is so complicated

Israel and Palestine jump from crisis to crisis, but a string of deadly attacks over the past few weeks has raised fears the Holy Land is spiralling toward unrelenting bloodshed, with speculation it is on the brink of an intifada - a Palestinian uprising or, literally, a 'shaking off' of Israeli control.
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The first two uprisings failed to end the occupation, with several thousand people killed, mostly Palestinians. Some believe a third intifada has already started.
But what makes the decades-old conflict so complex? The Guardian's Jerusalem correspondent, Bethan McKernan, examines the key figures and issues at play - and looks at why experts fear peace is further away than ever.
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[@paxbodhi7566]

Whoever’s here from war being declared in October 2023, this is all just so heartbreaking. Praying for the civilians. Human life should take precedence over political agendas. Praying for those families..

[@ymaysernameuay1113]

Civilians vote for these governments so they are responsible.

[@Classicsfrom2023]

Yep

[@CheckDisOutpeeps]

Future generations... don't be like us.

[@wildan.danial]

this isnt about politics this is about religion

[@paxbodhi7566]

@@wildan.danial unfortunately the two are intertwined. And it’s not only about religion, it’s also about territory & living conditions…

[@genfpqwasd]

"I own this land cause one of my ancestors lived here more than 2000 years ago" indeed a VERY egotistical complicated conflict.

[@clobar70]

So what "right" did Europeans have to come to America four hundred years ago? Whether you think Israelis had the right or not is a moot point. Israel is a fait accompli.

[@garkon1599]

we own this place because there was nothing in here. not a country. no economy. nothing. and we won the war on this place

[@harelchen2505]

That’s what you’re gonna say 1925 years from now about “Palestine” ❤

[@jonlenihan4798]

"I own this land because of a magical flying horse" makes perfect sense.

[@genfpqwasd]

@@jonlenihan4798 you make absolutely zero sense.

[@emil_rainbow]

"…it’s basically impossible to predict what’s going to happen next…" I can help you there Bethan, the gratuitous suffering of Palestinians will continue.

[@bleujay03]

🐮☪️

[@nadavev5684]

Thanks to the Palestinian authority, yes. Arabs that live under israeli rule are of the happiest Arabs in the middle east , the most free, the most prosperous , have the best life , do some research habibi

[@Colby_0-3_IRL_and_title_fights]

​@@nadavev5684 Israeli Arabs are happier, freer and more prosperous than Saudi princes?

[@giladzvi4066]

@@Colby_0-3_IRL_and_title_fights I didn't know the population of Saudi Arabia was 11 people. And notice how Nadav says, "of the happiest Arabs," not "the happiest Arabs". lol

[@bobsucks9647]

@@giladzvi4066 you didn’t know that? It’s actually pretty cool it’s 11 dudes with a whole country to themselves, no waiting in lines, don’t have to pay for anything. They just chill and smoke hash all day, 11 friends having the time of their lives

[@wRAAh]

The conflict will be way less complicated to you if you study the history, needs and concerns on both sides of the conflict. But that's a problem. For some weird reason, everybody seems to choose a position and either become violently anti-Israel or obnoxiously anti-Palestine. It is those who want 100% recognition and zero concessions -those who don't really even want to move forward- who say it's a complicated never ending story. Because that serves their purpose.

[@bmorebob6624]

They are both at fault it seems. Neither side truly wants to find a solution.

[@marisamorais3150]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 finally someone who read a book instead Of watching a tik tok video

[@Steve-ArfArf]

From watching videos on the history is it fair to say that Palestinians had a lot more of the land previously and it's been taken away bit by bit by Israel over the years? Disclaimer I have no side in this, I am from Wales and it's horrible to see innocent people losing their homes and worse dying

[@worldwithpeace4ever]

I doubt you would say the same if Israel was created in your country, in 1948, and since then your homes, hospitals, and schools have been bombed daily and you had to bury your loved ones. A group of people have stolen lands and the country of another group. They must give it back. Simple.

[@heba9978]

Correct. They made settlements by destroying people's homes

[@SergioMolan]

finally someone well educated on the topic. This conflict is way more complicated than what people make it look like and picking a side is rather unfair to both.

[@joshmartin427]

Yeah unfortunately when you have all the media on your side and you label your enemy terrorists, the rest of the world will support you instead of seeing whats really going on.

[@TheBellePerspectiveTV]

Help me understand- because it seems like Israel was occupying spaces that were reserved for Palestinians and now Palestinians are fighting back.

[@rozilla_the_savage4445]

​@@TheBellePerspectiveTV that's exactly what it is

[@lespaulguitarist92]

@@rozilla_the_savage4445 Israel wants the Palestinians relocated out of the contested lands and the Palestinians want Israel dead and out of the contested lands. Neither sides want to share. I won't choose side, whoever wins.. Wins.

[@Oofsylater]

Yeah I do not know what the he'll this guy is thinking

[@yahyarajaee5883]

Is it complicated? A group of settlers migrated into an already existing country, colonized it, drove the people to the desert areas and took control of all the natural resources. Then developed a strong military and committed ethnic genocide. Which part is complicated exactly?

[@veldawells2839]

OK, that makes sense to me now. You have made the complicity sound resoundingly easy to picture now. Thank you for the lamens terms.

[@Prod.SamuelT]

Yes but that is not entirely true as it they didn't just randomly showed up one day. To be fair up to 24.6% from Palestinian landowners sold there land to Israelis with consent. Also the UN Was the ones who gave this land the Israel.

[@iamg07]

And what was that “existing” country called? And who governed it?

[@gabelincoln3608]

The part we’re half there population was gased

[@gabelincoln3608]

If Israel wasn’t there that whole part of the region would be in war

[@robertmusil5831]

"Why the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is so complicated" It isn't complicated. And it isn't a "conflict". This was best expressed by Michael Brooks: "It's not a complex issue that's the big thing. It's super simple. There's one group that has enormous power, it's the most powerful country in the Middle East, it's backed by the United States, it acts on another population of people with total impunity, is never held accountable for anything. So, there's no symmetry in the relationship, period."

[@dasreicht]

Watch the video. Whether your point is right or wrong, it remains complicated.

[@robertmusil5831]

@@dasreicht Watched it. Not once. Not twice. Three times. And apartheid is still not complicated.

[@lous.1548]

exactly , it is complicated for people who don' t want to understand ...

[@RobPires]

Even the oppressors know it is not complicated.

[@Joseph-cf2wd]

if it acts with 'total impunity' like you describe then there would not be any palestenians. Cause the only state which actually have WMDs in middle east is Israel. Israel simply believes that best way to fight terror is with more terror. It is not going to back down from an enemy which believes in martyrdom and religious war. Blood for blood and fire for fire.

[@sarahmcnamara7820]

The more I learn about this conflict and the history, the more I feel compassion towards the Palestine people

[@beaupeterson188]

The West largely wants us to sympathize with Israel, regardless of what they or we have done.

[@yarz2004]

that's not the full story mate. In the video she presents the side of the Palestinians and not everything that Israel tried to do for the situation to be normal. I recommend that you look for more videos and other things on the subject.

[@Chieffam15]

No

[@harshilgandhi2278]

Then you insist Israel people to die you say. What did normal child women man living in both the countries did bad to each other. Why not forget the history and live together I don't understand why people don't understand humanity is. They divide each other by country.

[@UrielCriminalDefense]

You should look at both sides of the story.

[@justinbanks7226]

Thank you, this was very informative

[@MeatBallBoy23]

It would be cool if all parties agreed to simply unite because the war is destroying the land and its resources. If this continues there will be nothing left, regardless of 'who wins'.

[@pokerqAK47]

Do you wanna live with someone you hate? They hate each other

[@mudmonk7724]

Why not divide the country in two , and just be done with it , leave and prosper on your side of the country

[@izdatsumcp]

It is divided into two. Israel is illegally occupying the Palestinian state.@@mudmonk7724

[@urbanwarchief]

Need a political movement on nature preservation and how to nurture it

[@pododododoehoh3550]

Unfortunately they're religious

[@cyberspek8996]

well you see i'm an israeli and i think its simple its just someone benefits from this conflict.. you see as long as someone gets money from it they wont stop. i do feel bad for whats going on there and too bad i dont have the power to say "all palestinians are free to live wherever they want without even the need to ask" and plus free education for their children.. all on us they will get to live happily without any fear i wish i could but its rigged. this land feels like a test field for weapons than a free country anyways.

[@escapist0447]

You're right... And still ordinary citizens who have no hand in such matters are accused....

[@lokeshpeethani2676]

May peace soon come to holy Jerusalem.

[@imjustezzy2076]

At least you got a free contra when they inslaved you

[@taichii1120]

Both Israeli and Palestinian citizens are victims. The weak and disobedient are killed for the rich and powerful on both sides!

[@cyberspek8996]

@@taichii1120 yep and not a lot of people understand that..sadly

[@lemmycaution9353]

Why is it so complicated? Let’s see… 4mins15secs should cover it.

[@sardorshomurodov8203]

the only complicated thing is, human rights is muted. And this is shame

[@Benfreidkin22]

It's settler colonialism, that's all it is.

[@shainazion4073]

Please tell us all where is the Israeli Empire that has a colony? Please explain how communities become settlers. And why settlers?

[@Federal_Bureau_of_Investigatio]

how

[@DMC1982]

​​@@shainazion4073It is a part of the US Colonial Empire.

[@shainazion4073]

@@DMC1982 genius-Not, the US gave NO aid to Israel fir the first 25 years of its creation. The UN put Israel under an embargo, hoping that Israel would fail!

[@houseofshuffles449]

@@DMC1982 Your "US Colonial Empire" is literally just something you made up.

[@san_t]

Its not complicated at all when one country occupies another.

[@krishnakhatri2427]

what about many israeli die by the hands of hamars group?

[@san_t]

@Krishna Khatri Unfortunately that's what happens when you occupy and subjugate a population for decades...they elect extremist leaders. This conflict didn't start when Hamas came they're just a product of Israeli occupation.

[@snoopcelev1590]

They were never a country, and they are not willing to accept any concessions, hence the complicated

[@Joseph-cf2wd]

@@san_t This conflict started due to Arab initiated war of 48. They draw the first blood, so the last will be drawn by the other side. Its only logical.

[@shainazion4073]

Please explain what country is being occupied? There was never a country named Palestine.

[@ketchupsos5817]

It's not complicated.

[@axdilez3486]

And this mindset is the very reason Why the conflict is still going on. Always two sides to a coin, no matter who’s put too much stress on their side of it

[@ForestSarli-Freeman]

Free the Palestinian people ❤

[@sandusky_skaii3485]

@@axdilez3486 There is no two sides when one is colonizing the other. Free Palestine.

[@axdilez3486]

@@sandusky_skaii3485 Are you saying that Hamas are not launching rockets into Gaza? Take away for one second that it might be justified retaliation. I am not saying Israel isn't responsible, I am saying that something is done from the Palestinian side as well.

[@littlekettle5759]

​@@axdilez3486 but you can't take away the fact that it's justified retaliation, and that Hamas extremism emerged purely out of Israel's actions. It wasn't enough for Israel to win the 48 war. No, they want to colonise the entire land of palestine and purge all palestinians from it. The threats they're receiving are a direct consequence of their actions. And then they cry like victims that they have to shoot down some missiles when they're illegally kicking out palestinians from their homes, and illegaly seizing their land/property.

[@cheekyboy5000]

One side oppressing, controlling, dominating and occupying the other is not a "conflict".

[@shainazion4073]

There is no occupation. Only countries can be occupied. There was never a country of Palestine.

[@nadavev5684]

​@@shainazion4073 and in this rate there's never going to be

[@shainazion4073]

@@nadavev5684 Thats correct!!

[@mariaimran400]

@@shainazion4073 Ever seen a map?

[@shainazion4073]

@@mariaimran400 Never one that had *a country* named Palestine, a region, an area, yes; a country, No!!!

[@hornerfarah2282]

It's not complicated issues. It's complicated when you add excuses and justification for the crimes of the Israelis.

[@DTXA841]

100% accurate

[@shainazion4073]

And what about the Crimes of the "Palestinians"??

[@trillmitchell]

@@shainazion4073 acting in fear and desperation is different to acting in aggression, and in a land that accepted you with open arms. Israel is a terrible guest.

[@shainazion4073]

@@trillmitchell What land that accepted who with open arms? When was Israel anyones guest? Please help define your comment!!

[@user-ge3lp4ie9w]

@@shainazion4073 this IS not crime this is fighting for save thier contry

[@techhawk1543]

If Ukrainians have the right to defend themselves against Russians , Palestinians have every right to defend their values , land & lives 🇵🇸 !

[@garkon1599]

The diffrence is that the way palastinianes "fight" is terror atack.

[@techhawk1543]

@garkon1599 Why because they don't have blond hair and blue eyes ?

[@garkon1599]

@@techhawk1543 I recommend you learn what terror mean. Terror is atacking civilians. Like murdering poeple while they are praying. Like stabing somone on the back for no reason. That not fight. Fight is army against army. Last time I checked exploding in a bus, going Nd stabing sonone, shot random person on the street. Fire rockets are houses of random poeple (and on the way making little kids run to the bomb shelter while crying). Is not against an army. It's terror and nothing else.

[@ABAddonfromHeLL]

Yea I do agree everyone has the right to defend themselves when under attack, but the funny thing is palestinians can’t defend themselves 😂

[@techhawk1543]

@garkon1599 of course the the IDF has killed more children in 1 year than Hamas has Killed any Civilians in 10 years. Go look at the data.

[@sidhussain915]

Israeli settlers and troops have escalated attacks on Palestinians since late December 2022, since Benjamin Netanyahu returned to power as head of the occupying regime’s most far-right cabinet ever. Israeli forces often do not prevent settler raids and never charge perpetrators of such atrocities. The occupation authorities are fully responsible for these heinous crimes, which reflect a systematic policy practiced by the Israeli government, whose ministers demonstrate their support for those crimes in violation of international laws,

[@lous.1548]

Always have ... since day one . The only différence is that during the Nakba , there was no social media ... But we know what our families have gone through ... every single Palestinian abroad knows exactly what happened to his family in 1047 , 1948

[@Uma-Bharat-India]

Support Isreal.

[@harryberger2408]

Since December 2022, 5 months. Have the Fakestinians show any violence?

[@solomonking5097]

@@Uma-Bharat-India check your spelling ctfu

[@gabelincoln3608]

Support is real

[@antsly]

This is the lie they tell you "it is complicated".

[@Rimuruismywaifu]

Danke für das kurze aber sehr informative Video. Thank you for the short and detailed video.

[@DCol]

The issue goes further back, like a couple hundred years ago when the British took over the land and set up the borders.

[@catalinmihaidobre5452]

Survey data shows that most Palestinian respondents now say they prefer regaining all of historical Palestine over permanent peace with Israel. Palestinian majority rejects two-state solution.

[@ricky2743]

This is probably nonsense, I'd like to see your source. But even if true, I would also want ALL my land back if a foreign country invaded it.

[@ofrikalif4938]

Can someone tell me when was Palestine established? By who? Who were it's leaders?

[@Lacey_loo]

It’s always political they never care about their people.

[@nomanslandfreeride]

For a moment I thought I’m listening to the IDF spokesperson. “It’s complicated , this age old conflict”. Why the war in Ukraine isn’t? By the same logic you can call the war in Ukraine “a conflict”, where there are two sides. The Guardian, you can do better than this, we’re not in the 90s anymore.

[@robertmusil5831]

Former Guardian editor Alan Rusbridger: “There are a lot of newspaper and broadcasting editors who have told me that they just don’t think it’s worth the hassle to challenge the Israeli line. They’ve had enough.” Looks like the current Guardian editor has "had enough".

[@37Dionysos]

@@robertmusil5831 Let him try living in Gaza. He'll have "enough" very quickly---but he'll be able to get out.

[@Marius_vanderLubbe]

She is a liar.

[@snoopcelev1590]

The Israeli narrative was missing from the video, so I wouldn't say she sounded like an idf spokesperson

[@torshavnnewell]

​@@snoopcelev1590 what's the israeli narrative? I need to know so I can recognize it, thank you

[@bernardthomas6232]

Did she just predict the Oct 7 attack?

[@portalsevil]

it's the least complicated conflict in history

[@Marius_vanderLubbe]

In 2004 the international court of justice handed down its advisory position: Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem are designated Palestinian territories. Israel must withdraw to its pre June 1967 border and it must remove the apartheid wall.

[@shainazion4073]

An Advisory opinion is just that, an opinion! They have not based it on any laws though. The ICJ can only issue an opinion if asked a question. Please see below the question they were asked. They did NOT find that Israel occupied any Palestinian Territories, they were asked to answer about "the wall" by the General Assembly of the United Nations; *_" Bearing in mind that Israel, the occupying power, continues to refuse to comply with International Law, vis-a vis, its construction of the above mentioned wall, with all its detrimental implications and consequences. What are the legal consequences from the construction of the illegal wall being built by Israel?"_* The court answered, "illegal?" *GIGO* They did not find any land as occupied or Palestinian!!

[@clobar70]

Will that satisfy the Palestinians? Will they unequivocally recognize Israel and state that that would be the end of the conflict? If Israel removes the "apartheid wall" will you guarantee there would be no more terrorist attacks against Israel?

[@Marius_vanderLubbe]

@@clobar70 History will show who did what and when. The criminals will be prosecuted. I know which line will be longest. Be sure you are outside the court to show support.

[@wildbeast3106]

@@shainazion4073 link?

[@ofrikalif4938]

Very intresting to see how international law became so important after the arab league lost over and over to Israel

[@connorscherer617]

Really foolish to bring up this relationship without mentioning Iran who controls Hamas.

[@okokok1993]

What about Britain who created this

[@phoenixnuker3705]

@@okokok1993exactly 😂

[@Ghostkill817]

How does Gaza get its firepower if it’s so small and fully controlled by Israel?

[@yourintrovertfriend1637]

Exactly I don't know how people can side one country cuz it's so complex.

[@luissantos1801]

I have a feeling religion plays a huge role in all this unnecessary conflict

[@dutchvanderlinde4969]

it's so obvious

[@youronlyann]

Exactly

[@smh5179]

Definitely yes

[@helenh493]

Also Politics, power & money. Religion is just one of many (smoke screen) excuses. Its still going around, even in the US.. anti-Everything!

[@dylanrobinson7830]

Where can I watch the whole video of Bethan McKernan???! She's very insightful here, I want more!!

[@robwilton9539]

It's not so complicated at all. It is settlers overpowering indigenous people, just like in America and Australia.

[@BIELS1]

This is what I needed after this weekend. This is intense.

[@andrewmcclain1630]

thanks for explianing.

[@josephschottland1078]

I would say a bit slanted against Israel. She is correct that settlements have continued (though at a faster pace under Likud) but she is not correct in suggesting that Israeli governments over the last 30 years have been against a two state solution. The US got Israel (under Barak) to make that deal at Camp David but Arafat rejected it. Also no mention that Israel turned over governing Gaza to the Palestinians in 2005, that Hamas (Gaza's governing authority) explicitly dedicates itself to Israel's destruction nor mentions Oct 7. Israel does not have clean hands nor is morally pure by any means. But a great newspaper needs to be a bit more objective and not selective in reporting history

[@claraya4054]

i think maybe you should check what those proposals that Israel had for Palestine contained as restrictions. This was also done 9 months ago FYI so no 7th of october. and they didnt "turn over" gaza because they wanted to, look that up also . just for your sake, dig deeper than the titles and the surface and you will find what she is saying as a specialist is true

[@user-vl2mr8mr5u]

It's not that complicated

[@jeylonblake3407]

Britain and France that is the answer, creating borders that never existed before. I have no issue with Israel existence, but Israel is moving towards an apartheid state and their demands for Palestine's independence acceptance is crazy. What country would entirely give another nation the right to run their security forces through their territory.

[@Wesgo111]

Canada

[@clobar70]

The primary duty of any country is to protect the lives of its own citizens. Israel has made numerous offers and concessions to the Palestinans and have been met with rejection and violence.

[@user-pe7mx3kj8p]

They forgot Gods biggest commandment to love one another they need to get over themselves

[@kikiwilliams4980]

It has nothing to do with land. It has to do with two very different ideologies.

[@Onlyhuman1972]

3:18 an utter lie and shame of the guardian and its editors. Palestinians are asking for peace talk every day but the occupation doesn’t want it. Shame on you

[@tuco4386]

Amezing question ❓⁉️

[@zaidgasmi6339]

It's not complicated at all. There is a victim whose land is being usurped and occupied forcefully since 1948 and there is a cruel occupier who kills children women and civilians constantly while stealing their resources and their land . Palestinians are now living every 4 people in 1m2 because of the israeli attacks on gaza ( the criminals have thrown 6000 bombs on gaza in only one week ) But sadly we live in a hypocritical society where people symphasize with "european" ukranians against Russia but deny pelestine's right to resist a colonization that stands since 70 years . Neutrality is also wrong . Every human must stand with PALESTINE 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

[@snobbypolitics7792]

She was right! Predicted it perfectly.

[@rrtds9378]

Wow, it does sounds complicated. Should one group compromise? On the other hand, there is this sense of security. If constant terrorism happens in the region then this might be impossible.

[@elisangelacastello4702]

Thanks 🙏 for the video. I agree it’s complicated.

[@saviorodrigues7852]

You'll made it As Simple As Possible, made this complicated thing so simple to Understand.... Thanks A Lot 👍❤

[@EliteKidd95]

Why the Israeli - Palestinian conflict is not our problem. Seems like a more fitting title to me.

[@b-py8kt]

​@@bobbyd6040 And?

[@Rome372]

It s not complicated, thats what they want to believe us.

[@MarkanthonyGME100]

Well said because it's happening now!

[@lew708]

Why are people dying over this? Why are CHILDREN dying over this? I’ve heard the complications here, but I ask again as a concerned, evolving, citizen of the world, why are people dying over this?

[@EngleHump]

One side is a democracy where politicians are accountable. The other side cannot get it's act together

[@nvrsthetic]

Conflict ? Complicated ? Who wrote that title ? 💀

[@razabadass]

This felt worth trying to go through :)

[@MediaHypocrisyDetector]

It's not complicated, it's an occupation and an occupier.

[@pinzytoto7698]

But it's not complicated at all 😂

[@issyeboi2060]

it’s not complicated honestly

[@jasper_north]

Thank you. Clear now

[@shadyganem5448]

Do Palestinians have the right to protect themselves?

[@lous.1548]

of course not , because if they do - they are the ' bad guys ' . after 75 years , we got it . We will always be the bad guys so we might as well protect our lives

[@snoopcelev1590]

Sure. Israelis as well

[@sadiagee1191]

@@snoopcelev1590 maybe Israeli shouldn’t be making and living in illegal settlements on stolen land if they want to ‘protect’ themselves !

[@Saddexx]

Nope.

[@harelchen2505]

Killing inocente Israelis within Israel territory isn’t called “to protect themselves”

[@shainazion4073]

*Please explain what is being occupied?* ▪︎ The former Ottoman lands? ▪︎ The expired British Mandate? ▪︎ The illegally annexed Jordanian land? ▪︎ The land won by Israel from Jordan in a defensive war? *What is being occupied from Who??*

[@CosmicHarmony58]

RIP Israel 😀😂

[@letsgetfluffy3138]

it all stems back to religion and people don't admit it even though it's incredibly obvious

[@robzinoargento]

The core issue starts from 1917, Belfour promise

[@nuttcase1uk]

Not complicated, its the Occupier and its supporters and the Occupied and their sympathisers. The occupier has a colonial project to have an Ethno racist state and the occupied wants emancipation/equal rights and freedoms. This took less than 4mins to read.

[@zeinabsugal1394]

Who is oppressing the other

[@sunnymoondog]

Thank you!

[@tomaszgawin7685]

Even this video warned something could happen on the Israeli side. What had mossadegh being doing?

[@creedyrn24]

This was detailed and well explained

[@slob5041]

If it's not simple then it can't be true.

[@luangu]

It's not "complicated" if you are student of ancient history and archeology. There are no Kings of "Palestine". There are no edda's or poetry from any "Palestine" culture. There are no "Palestine" ruins or temples. There are no "Palestine" pottery or coinage. There are no "Palestine" artifact or clay tablets. There are no "Palestine" ancient languages or script. There is no historical or archeological evidence that there ever was "Palestine" country, nation or peoples. It is the name of a REGION. Like the "Sahara" or the "Great Steppes" or the "Amazon".

[@lous.1548]

I must thank the guardian for defining : Intifada _ I think no one knows watt it means yet . Please define as well ' ethnic cleansing ' and ' Génocide ' ' Nakba' ..

[@JESUSfreak00]

Thanks so much for the breakdown and helping it make sense....spiritual war🙏

[@emil_rainbow]

"Complicated" only for a mealy-mouthed Guardian journalist. Sickening.

[@ghibrandrizqy6908]

This is a classic double standart of west country about conflict around the world, the one year plus conflict in ukraine is more important than 60+ years conflict of israel-palestine, why? Because in the ukraine war Russia is the aggresor and in the israel-palestine you all know israel is the a aggresor (you can see what that country do to palestine people now, what that country do is more barbaric than Russia)

[@raa4975]

Actually the russia ukraine conflict dates back over a century when a genocide was committed against ukraine the likes of which has never been seen in palestine even just the death count in ukraine over the past year is more than palestine has seen since isreal was formed.....

[@jonlenihan4798]

Syria, the country that Palestinians wish to recreate in Israel, has a half million dead, and two and a half million refugees in twelve years of civil war. Total Arab deaths in 100 years of conflict in Israel-Palestine , in the tens of thousands.

[@shainazion4073]

Actually the Arab states attacked Israel . Israel was never the agressor.

[@thetreelander7378]

Israel took the land in a defensive war and that it fair game.

[@jghifiversveiws8729]

@@raa4975 The Holodomor was not a genocide against the Ukrainian people. But yes the conflict technically dates back to at least 2014.

[@lickar__]

Nothings complicated about it. They just never made-up after generations of killing eachother and neither was the bigger man and said “sorry.”

[@melvinc23]

Why should the one who didn't start it say sorry? Israel only acted in retaliation

[@user-hi9sr4jo5x]

@@melvinc23 because that innocent beings on all sides, children women etc who have nothing to do with the decisions of authority/violence of their larger context (in the same way you and i probably do not) , should take precedence over airy concepts like nationalistic Revenge, Righteousness, Winning, and Retaliation. already it is clear to anyone still in touch with common and shared humanity , that no one will be winning here, except those making money. but even then.. nature will return us all. it seeks no revenge, no justifications. only circulates. there are no winners in death, thankfully.

[@helenh493]

Very Well explained! Thank You!

[@noamrotstain3182]

This journalist did a fascinating job in giving us a slice of nothing more than her opinion and showed little to no explanation to how this is truly a complicated situation by lacking two sidedness.

[@dizave76]

I agree 💯 I came hear to understand why its complicated. Not to be told Israel is bad. Terrible video.

[@balajiedlyngdoh8366]

Here before it blows

[@GeorgiePoorgie86]

​@@dizave76both sides are wrong, deal with it.

[@dizave76]

@GeorgiePoorgie86 How about Biden releasing $6 billion to Iran in August and then Hamas attacks Israel 6 weeks later. You see any connection there? Perhaps Biden made a grave mistake costing many lives?

[@stevenwilliams3015]

​@@dizave76But what if Israel is truly wrong. Why should bring biasness already instead of being open with facts?

[@whiterock1865]

Well, Israel obviously doesn't have total control of what goes in and out...kind of like our southern border.

[@RobPires]

It is not complicated if you stop listening to hasbara mental gymnasts.

[@ekaterinastaneva9922]

The undeniable truth is that the neighbour coutries are perhaps the biggest culprit. Without the first arab israeli war and 6 days war the reality in the region would have been completely different, probably more peaceful and with close to equal land size for both sides.

[@baronvann1314]

It's only complicated because it explains why you do not take a stand.

[@vezeveer]

This is a land issue. Where else do you expand?

[@legette38]

In 2023, we are still seeing the fight between the descendants of David and Goliath

[@DemonSlayer9166]

This is a helpful video on KZbin . Thank you

[@winstong7867]

Dont seem that complicated, just ppl doing onto others what they want done to themselves

[@Victor-tl4dk]

what a mess. These are precious human lives being lost. Stop this two state nonsense I say. Put up a government for the people by the people that is "secular." This hurts to see.

[@donaldkkearse3986]

Why are the Palestinians being treated like 2nd class citizens in their own land See you can't claim to be the chosen people of that land when you paid for entrance into a land that was given to a group of people paid for by the blood of the most high already make it make sense You need time to answer I'll wait 🕰 ⌚️ ⌛

[@Bells-ou1gj]

At last an objective and informative video, thank you

[@fafdus]

but its really not.

[@user-il5dm5ft5s]

Maybe there can be a bi-national state with Palestine and Jordan in the West Bank and a bi-national state with Egypt and Gaza? Israel could keep the most strategic settlements (the high places) and the rest are given to the Palestinians with Jordan overseeing security. Jerusalem would be jointly secured by Israel and Jordan.

[@user-gf7mt3jd1n]

Palestinians were offered a country like five or six times, they replied violently, they aren't interested in anything but the complete eradication of Israel.

[@understandablehaveaniceday1343]

They're religious people so war is their only answer.

[@gracelynmeade5640]

It's not complicated Give the people back their land. This is not justice . It's blatant injustice and evil. You journalist get your act a d speak truth.

[@nannerz1994]

Thank you for breaking this down and making it so simple

[@mysteriousbeauty572]

The only settlement of the Palestinian issue would be free elections by all residents of the occupied territories.

[@alinabina]

Finally a clear explanation.

[@marisamorais3150]

Amazing how you left out british occupation and how the territory was divided 👏🏼 again colonialism at its best

[@DDuMas]

It's not complicated at all, it's fairly simple. But it's a very dense subject. A lot happened. A LOT of small events, many large events.

[@Prod.SamuelT]

Yes but that is not entirely true as it they didn't just randomly showed up one day. To be fair up to 24.6% from Palestinian landowners sold there land to Israelis with consent. Also the UN Was the ones who gave this land the Israel. Thoughts?

[@HayleyGardening22]

The UN gave some land to Israel but Israel got greedy and kept taking more and more without the consent of the UN. At least thats what I understand from what I’ve read so far.

[@markkillam8921]

Well, boy , did this lady call this one

[@cinesonicvibes]

Why are they complaining if they don't want peace? And why two Palestine groups?