Why The Left is Out Of Touch (Ft. Catherine Liu)

[@1DimeRadio]

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[@vintheguy]

What happened to the reading recommendation videos on the main channel? Those were great!

[@ArctheLadder]

When Liu talks about how an effective movement will project strength and then talks about what that isn't, I definitely feel like over the past few months I've seen Central Committee reference Matt Christman's brief musing about how these are folks who want to be viewed as a subaltern group. The precision explanation of what's happening from Catherine Liu is amazing.

[@lephtovermeet]

When both parties are the neoliberal party, there's no one left to support regular people.

[@DaveE99]

It’s no different than supporting the ccp and everything being about the ccp

[@EramisGoodspiel]

I am falling in love with this woman! She is righteous!

[@matten_zero]

I have been waiting MONTHS for this!

[@Mmoll1990]

The thing I think you're missing about being "against educational educational standards" is that these (often teachers and scholars on education themselves) are critical of our current system of standards and how it is materially unhelpful at actually providing education. The problem isn't the concept of standards, but that the system of standards to which the superstructure adheres to dogmatically: is bad. Standardized testing is the means of capital to create a narrow market in education that can be quantified for monetizable metrics. It cares not for what actual benefit society gets from education.

[@LunaZeidner]

Love that language of strength against vulnerability. Literally a party of victims vs guys (who are losers) talking about how much winning they're gonna do.

[@vivalaleta]

Oh, my gawd...I've found my fighting soul's doppelganger! I can't agree with her more!

[@recoilAbs]

Catherine has impeccable vibes. Very cool lady.

[@vintheguy]

What happened to the reading recommendation videos on the main channel? Those were great!

[@1DimeRadio]

I made them available to Members only for certain reasons.

[@cakexo7756]

Holy Shit! she is based. I love she talks and curses lmao. The most relatable academic I have ever seen or heard xD

[@WorldConstruct]

If you like this for those reasons, you might find the 1986 essay by a Princeton philosopher, “On Bullshit” to be a similarly edifying experience.

[@dethkon]

@@WorldConstructhehehe

[@Garrett1240]

Love Catherine.

[@alexhubble]

57:48 'it really sucks' it does! It means you end up not able to talk about ANYTHING at all....

[@Orion-lt3zz]

"Popular front of the vulnerable"

[@zainmudassir2964]

Wow this was pretty good imo

[@miltonthegreat6520]

Okay, as a leftist and black Canadian, I have to say this. Marxism isn't some perfect and everyone agrees what Marxism is. The idea that you can concern yourself so much with identifying 'woke politics' tells me you don't know about the 'Black radical tradition' that is closely tied to anti-colonial, decolonial thought and Marxist third worldism. Without issues outside in the peripheries pushing at the center -- like leftist womens rights, trans rights, access to resource rights, civil rights -- you wouldn't know labour isn't the only socialist economic issue we need to talk about. (PS: Thank you Catherine Lui)

[@alexhubble]

37:55 Looool😂 Preach, sister! Tell dem, tell dem!

[@alexhubble]

1:14:21 no words ❤

[@ComradeSam_617]

Welcome back

[@MrJfergs]

Catherine Liu with the Comme Des Garçon play haha. I guess the book sales are going well, I would have thought that would have been far too bourgeois for her taste.

[@MrJfergs]

for real though her explanation of the current political landscape in academia at least in the anglo portion of North America is pretty accurate. I just don't know how one would broach the topic about victimized people holding backwards views and that a universalist message is needed. 47:25 is very accurate but I don't know would you raise this with a first nations person without sounding like a "Eurocentric chauvinist" or something along those lines.

[@dethkon]

@@MrJfergs They are able to think critically too. Just because someone is Native American doesn’t mean they automatically fall for the same ideology as other people of their race!

[@Enormous866]

❤❤❤

[@benomkarababa]

Yessss this is exactly what I was hoping to see waking up this morning. Watched a bunch of Liu yesterday. While liberals everywhere are crying and freaking because the PMCs they installed in pointless offices throughout the federal government gets dismantled. Starting to really enjoy this channel.

[@Enormous866]

I have her book

[@alexhubble]

46:01 I am actually in love with this lady...❤

[@alexhubble]

1:04:33 she is so great...

[@PaulDavidPhotography]

Good discussion. I still find it unconvincing to call it a “class” as professional-managerial workers will be required to exist in socialist classless society - the need for teachers and doctors etc. won’t disappear as class society withers away (unless AI or something handles that). From this perspective, calling them a “class” renders classless society impossible. I think it’s a lot more useful to just refer to them as professional-managerial workers. Then you can tease apart professional-managerial identity as a specific stratum within the broad working classes (or proletariat - be they mental or manual wage labourers, white collar or blue collar, etc)

[@1DimeRadio]

I regard them as a social category rather than a class in the old Marxist sense. The PMC has a different relationship to power (they have a certain prestige and cultural capital that makes them feel and act distinct from workers) and PMC aspirants (Students looking to become PMCs) adopt much of the "Habitus" of the PMC's as a result of their education and career pathways. There is a Right, Center, and a Left PMC Imo. (The Right PMC is mostly in the Finance and advertising/FIRE industry, The Left PMC is more in Universities and NGOs, and the Center/soft liberal PMC is in the Media industry and the PR industries.

[@varisleek3360]

Liu!

[@osoisko1933]

Lost me when she said PMC

[@benomkarababa]

She kind of trips all over herself trying to avoid using the word woke, but why? Just to replace it with something way more wordy and specific? For what reason does she hate the word? Hating words is kind of a silly exercise to begin with. I disagree with her on this because as far as I can tell she has no real argument. It would be like being against the word p*rn. Everyone knows what it means, and you know it when you see it. This is exactly the case with woke. We all know exactly what it means.

[@Grogeous_Maximus]

Woke does not mean the same to the people who invented the word, and the people who appropriated and weaponized it. I agree that it's clumsy to not just state if one is talking about the one or the other kind.

[@benomkarababa]

@Grogeous_Maximus I don't really care who invented it or why. All that matters is it is now part of common vocabulary and everyone knows what it refers to. If someone is clinging to its outdated academic meaning, that is their problem. Whether it is weaponized or not is irrelevant - it's just a word and it's perfectly descriptive. The liberal/woke project of prohibiting words or playing semantic games is first of all dishonest and second is part of the mechanism by which the PMC enforces cultural hegemony. Words are just words.

[@airliners321]

@@benomkarababa "now part of common vocabulary and everyone knows what it refers to" Objectively not true and that's literally what the first comment already said so your whole argument falls apart.Sorry!

[@benomkarababa]

@@airliners321 everyone knows what it means except for people who are too smart and want to argue about semantics. For common, normal people, we know exactly what wokeness refers to. Just like p*rn.