Why The Puppetmaster BREAKS Avatar´s Magic System | Avatar The Last Airbender

[@asimplewanderer6101]

Amon, Katara and Korra all resisted bloodbending withouth the Avatar State. Don't know why but I enjoy that some can resist.

[@PickaBlueV2]

@@asimplewanderer6101 right Amon resisted his brother, I totally forgot that. But when did Korra resist it? I mean totally ignore it not just like mako did with his lightning

[@CeyhanA.]

Korra was bloodbended but she air kicked Amon ​@@PickaBlueV2

[@PickaBlueV2]

@@CeyhanA. I’ll have to rewatch that then!

[@chrisss838]

@@PickaBlueV2 Ikr, like isn't the avatar state supposed to be a defense mechanism? It should've been triggered

[@PickaBlueV2]

@@chrisss838 100%

[@millersam07]

Hama's goal was always to pass on her skill/technique to Katara. She WANTED Katara to learn and demonstrate blood bending. Katara gaining control over her own body showed that she was starting to bloodbend, at least blood bend herself. I think Hama pulled back her attack on Katara once she did this, bc again she WANTED Katara to blood bend. The next step was to blood bend another, which she did on Hama. Hama knew she was old, and not long for the world. She may have even died in prison shortly after (or been put to death). She didn't care, bc he goal of passing on the skill to a younger water bender was complete. Katara wasn't "stronger" she was just younger, and probably had a lot more energy to fight old lady Hama, who also never wanted Katara to loose.

[@PickaBlueV2]

but hama even said that katara "should have leraned the techique first" which means she never tought her bloodbending. thta is the issue

[@lydianorris8124]

They should have kept it as a full moon only thing, not during the day and psychic bloodbending. Also, taking away somones bending with bloodbending is BROKEN. should have kept it as it was in avatar.

[@DBArtsCreators]

It makes sense that Katara was able to resist Hama. Katara is called out as being a prodigy of a waterbender, on top of being an extremely dedicated student. Not only was the moon out at the time, but Katara was affected by the bloodbuilding until she broke Hama's control. The how of it - Katara just bent her own blood. As for why Aang wasn't able to break Hama's hold - keep in mind that while he is also a bigger prodigy than Katara (and had Katara as a teacher throughout the series), he wasn't as dedicated a waterbending student. Airbending is his specialty, and (as a kid at least) he did not have the deep understanding of waterbending that Katara had, nor did Hama give him the advice on how "water can be found anywhere" or such. He didn't even know bloodbending was a thing until Hama was puppeting himself & Sokka (plus he was locked out of the Avatar state at this point in the series). The only issue with bloodbending is how it can be done so freely. Hama makes note that she needs the full moon (when a waterbender's power is at their strongest) to really use bloodbending. That should be the case for any bender who isn't an Avatar or otherwise a prodigy or experienced master (and even a prodigy-master like Katara should still be exhausted from using the technique without a full moon). As for the villagers: these kids just saved them from a much more dangerous force after hell knows how many of them were imprisoned for hell knows how long (and it is specifically Hama's victims that came out to help the kids & arrest Hama), and they have no idea that Aang is the Avatar. A bunch of tortured, tired, weakened villagers are not going to threaten, insult or challenge a group that just saved them by beating a threat that was too strong for said villagers, even if one or more of those saviors was part of an "enemy nation" (something most civilians likely do not have strong feelings on - the fire nation is not being constantly attacked & destroyed by the Earth Kingdom nor Water Tribes after all). Maybe later on someone said something off screen, but by then the gang was long gone.

[@PickaBlueV2]

@@DBArtsCreators only have one issue with that headcannon, if you could bend your own blood to resist it then how come tarrlok could not resist his brothers grip in Korra? And with the villagers, I do agree with you. It was an over nitpick ;)

[@DBArtsCreators]

@@PickaBlueV2 Tarrlock simply might not have been strong enough (at least at that moment). Not every bender is of equal strength or skill.

[@CryoJnik]

Weren't Amon/Yokone the only ones that could use Bloodbending without a full moon? Doesn't sound like "Freely used" more than it does those two being bloodbending savants.

[@PickaBlueV2]

@@DBArtsCreators I’d say yakone is a more skilled and powerful bender at least when it comes to bloodbending than Katara since he has had years of practice, been bloodbended several times and can do it without the full moon. Also coming from probably the most powerful waterbending family of all even tho we like to think Katara is the best m

[@DBArtsCreators]

@@PickaBlueV2 People also don't care as much about Korra's series since it's badly written and inconsistent, so eh.

[@yoannbelleville7763]

I don't think it's that overpowered. Full moons only happens once a month, which is a pretty big drawback compared to other bending special abilities (lightnning, levitation, metalbending etc...). Chances are, you wouldn't get the opportunity to use it when you actually need to. Plus, once a waterbender is revealed to be a blood bender, their ennemies would make them a priority target while making sure to avoid facing them during a full moon.

[@Haxogone]

It doesn’t need to be a full moon and if you watch the show, the moon’s always full anyway.

[@hyalinamusic18]

@@HaxogoneThat's more likely just animation inconsistency, the actual logic of the show would suggest they have a monthly lunar cycle like we do irl. And I'm pretty sure it's just Yakone's family that doesn't need a full moon to bloodbend, that limitation would still be in place for every other waterbender who learned how to do it

[@Haxogone]

@@hyalinamusic18 That’s still 3 bloodbending enemies who don’t need it to 1 that does.

[@nathanmoore7027]

Love the video. Respectfully, katara IS a prodigy. She's not a sevant who instinctively picks things up like aang did with 3 of the 4 elements, she does have to work. But not very hard. She has so much talent she went from struggling to wrangle a wave to competent fighter just from hanging out with aang to show her bending basics that are universal to all martial arts, and stealing one waterbending scroll. Then she leveled up to master in the month (tops) she was in the north pole. She is a stronger waterbender than aang (throughout the lore, we see evidence of avatar companions being better benders of their native element than their avatar sans avatar state) so it absolutely makes sense that a waterbender of her caliber boosted by the full moon could shrug off that shit when properly motivated.

[@cannonsword1]

it honestly does not matter how strong it is because it has high skill requirement, environmental requirement, and even a drawback in terms of morality. there are so many reasons blood bending could not be used that it evens out how op it is. this is like saying an ultimate ability in a video game is over powered even though the whole point is that it has high reward and therefore it needs high cost.

[@PickaBlueV2]

@@cannonsword1 that would be true of not Katara learned it in 0.1 seconds

[@cannonsword1]

btw even more reason to not use blood bending: you are busy controlling someone so someone else could ambush you, making you vulnerable. it is not completely irresistible as shown in the episode (katara being strong enough to resist it is perfectly believable since this is happening near the end game of the show and the show has demonstrated that katara has gone through growth in strength). it also technically has not shown that if a blood bender controls another bender, the blood bender can use that other person's bending (as far as I can recall), so you are making yourself busy controlling someone without getting their full power. you fight as someone else without their full power and janky movement (this is honestly a bit of a downside too) instead of being yourself with all the powerful water bending abilities

[@PickaBlueV2]

@@cannonsword1 but why can’t aang resist it then he is stronger than Katara? And you can clearly control several people at the same time. And why fight with waterbending when you can just Bloodbending your opponent and instantly win over them?

[@PickaBlueV2]

@@cannonsword1 and if we’re going with the video game references it’s like saying cc counters it but cc counters everything. Waterbending or concentrating in any way makes you vulnerable to ambush

[@lol4501]

@@PickaBlueV2katara was literally taking classes from hama about blood bending without realizing it….aang just came back from saving the people in the cave and had no idea what was going on and had never even heard of using the water within other things before so wen he was attacked by hama especially on a full moon the whole thing was random to him ofc he’s not gonna figure it out and katara in my opinion only figured it out because she’s a main character she’s not a prodigy at all she’s great but prodigy’s don’t know they can water bend and never figure it out lol she was like 12 wen aang met her that’s way too much time for a prodigy to figure nothing out

[@CryoJnik]

Back in season 2, Iroh during his instruction to Zuko brings up learning from sources outside your own nation, heck it's how he developed Lightning Redirection. It's the same lesson that Aang has to apply with being the Avatar. Something that few people catch during Katara and Hama's fight is that Katara is also applying that lesson when instead of doing the usual flowing around attacks she stops Hama's water not unlike how an Earthbender would defend themselves. Who's to say that the the stubborn mentality of an Earthbender couldn't help her to resist and ultimately negate Hama's attempts to control her along with her natural talent?

[@PickaBlueV2]

@@CryoJnik cool idea! Though we need some sort of indicator for that in the story for it to be more than just us fans shooting from the hip. There is lots of reasons why she could’ve resisted one way or another but none is given in the actual show. Showing one scene of Katara and Toph talking about just that would be super interesting and give a concrete reason for her negating bloodbending. Definitely a great theory!

[@omnimon1996]

Bloodbending is just meant to be OP. That's why its terrifying! Hama was the first showcasing of bloodbending in the world in general, no Avatar has ever faced this ability before hence Aang was powerless against it. I'm assuming once you're exposed to it then you can find ways to countermeasure as the Avatar State adapted to overcome it in the future, as any powerful Waterbender have the best odds of countering it. The reason Katara was able to counter it was her being both a powerful Waterbender, young, and also boosted by the Full Moon. Hama's original way was a double edged sword against another Waterbender, as that was the first time she even used it against a another Waterbender. Amon similar story, he's a crazy powerful Waterbender by being the strongest Bloodbender because he and his family had the clear advantage with it because they could do it outside the Full Moon getting rid of the double-edged sword situation against other Waterbenders. I really think Bloodbending being OP is fine because one the majority need the Full Moon which isn't around constantly and if you're a master Bloodbender like Amon getting the power to take away someone's bending abilities altogether is a well-earned ability for completely mastering the ability so little Waterbenders have access to.

[@SouthernGothicYT]

It is a bit OP, but its comparable to the other "tertiary" bending forms like bending metal or lightning. It requires a high level of skill to accomplish and was created by a master, passed down to another master.

[@astrodawn578]

Thank you. I've been saying this for years. I have been fighting against this episode and the fact it breaks the world.

[@derneuedunkleavataryang1731]

Hama would been a great teacher if katara used this Ability (Bloodbending) to hold Azula (i know that would not been her Style).

[@derneuedunkleavataryang1731]

I hope if they made another series with an Avater after Korra, they will explore other Bendings (who are called evil). Avatar the last Airbender is a different Story, this doesn't mean the legend of korra is not better or something both series describe different issues.

[@jasonfairo1195]

Bruh, the fact that Katara in the FIRST episode was able to massively change the way the water was moving when she was mad and not actually trying??? Katara is not a prodigy in the normal sense like Azula, Azula was able to grasp and perfect techniques far faster than most and absolutely outshines Zuko on a fundamentals and power level. Katara as you mentioned is getting more and more effective in precise and specific skills such as the sweat bending scene AND Hama is helping her to grasp the ideas and fundamentals that it represents. Plain and simple Katara is equal to or better than Aang on the power level for water bending in this episode and her specialized techniques are FAR surpassing his. It is constantly reinforced throughout the show that, while he is getting the hang of many of them, Aang is not a specialist, he is a generalist with great power. Katara is inventive and very aware of what can be done within her own element and while Aang does the same in his element, air, he spends far more of his time using other elements to substitute innovations in those other elements than making drastic and unique innovations in those ones. In sum, Katara is really fucking powerful and the fact that she has learned things the way she did makes the situation that she finds herself in on the full moon pretty reasonable. Getting control of herself from Hama is a result of her power and ability to learn technique and Aang not being able to fight it off is fair in the sense that he has never been anything BENT before.

[@PickaBlueV2]

@@jasonfairo1195 I do get your point but simply put Katara’s prodigy status is irrelevant since that is not what the show values 99% of the time. This is not dragonball z where the strongest powerlevel win. In avatar we see creativity and skill being what decides most fights. The only fight that really turn out that way is probably the Katara and Hama one and the aang ozai one. Which is probably why that last fight feels, at least to me, not as interesting as many others.

[@PickaBlueV2]

@@jasonfairo1195 and with azula. She may be a prodigy but the show clearly states that she has a work ethic beyond Zuko’s as well. In her introduction episode “the avatar state” we see her strive for perfection and won’t accept anything less, spending hours and hours on becoming the best. Zuko is not that.

[@sandro5535]

Overall I consider this to be a good episode but the ending of Katara instantly learning etc felt rushed.

[@PickaBlueV2]

@@sandro5535 totally agree, she’s usually the hard worker not the talented one

[@sandro5535]

@@PickaBlueV2 think they did it this way so Katara would not be in the wrong and save time. But imo she should be practicing on it. Not just on humans, then in Southern raiders it just clicked for her

[@omagicconch]

@@PickaBlueV2 Did we watch the same show??? 'Not the talented one' when we've got waterbending masters with years of experience over her who are going on about what a natural she is at water bending ??? She can be a hard worker AND talented at the same time, the two aren't mutually exclusive.

[@PickaBlueV2]

@@omagicconch just saying that in the first season, especially the waterbending scroll it’s pretty explicitly stated that waterbending comes less naturally for her then it did aang. But later at the North Pole she surpasses him because she trained harder m. Ofc she has talent, I was simply comparing her with aang.

[@mayuasdf4281]

Idk, to me it felt right because at this point of the show Katara had been perfecting her bending for a long time, and had Aang to practice with most likely everyday.

[@carloschavarriaperez1457]

why do you call it magic system? they are more like mutants.

[@PickaBlueV2]

@@carloschavarriaperez1457 just what it’s called in the writing community when a story has extra “powers”