Why the R32 is BETTER than the Golf R (Mk4 R32 vs Mk7.5 R)

[@Suprakid23]

3.6 VR6 in the MK7 sounds like a good idea to me.

[@HumbleMechanic]

Me too.

[@Vexman2200]

There is a guy who I think lives in Virginia or Maryland that did a 3.6 swap in his Corrado, I saw it at a Hot Wheels event... man that car is super clean it is the dream car I always wanted

[@HumbleMechanic]

@@Vexman2200 Silver? I have seen that car. it's FRESH!

[@fredjones5327]

J G yes sir I absolutely agree only been done in Germany, HGP Motorsports, there’s a video on here.

[@alexpope5327]

Absolutely. The 3.6 VR in an R would be amazing. And the efficiency isn't terrible. I took a 300 mile road trip in my Passat GT earlier this week and got a little over 30 mpg. And grinned all day ;)

[@Jbearzy]

If you don’t understand why he thinks the R32 is better you should go drive one. Absolutely amazing driving experience!

[@jameslattibeaudiere1681]

The sound is it for me, cant get over it!

[@Kaiceratops27]

yup, reason 1: vr6 exhaust note. no other reasons needed.

[@kaibotski4939]

@@Kaiceratops27 It's over 60hp less... I am driving for speed and sound is secondary to me. That's just me though.

[@lukezi3952]

@@kaibotski4939 speed doesnt matter on a curvy road, sound does.

[@bird-dog81]

@@lukezi3952 or through a busy congested city😉

[@eppyz]

What makes the R32 better for Charles is he owns the R32 and is making payments on the R. Enough said. 😎

[@HumbleMechanic]

HAHAH There is truth to that. I freaking HATE car payments.

[@gravemind6536]

Buying a used R32 in good condition would require taking out finance now, at least in the UK minumum £10,000 for an R32 but usually at least £12000.

[@eppyz]

@@gravemind6536 maybe so but I'm sure Charles bought his outright.

[@samb394]

Can get a pretty nice R32 in the UK for £7k

[@skylinefever]

Hopefully the repairs aren't the equivalent of a monthly loan payment. I have heard that older VWs get very expensive to repair, especially the rare ones.

[@LuisGomez-ut9zb]

Just this week I totaled my mk4 24v vr6 GTI, man I’m sure gonna miss that thing. I appreciate all the advice you’ve given me throughout the past couple years and for always replying to my comments you’ve been a lifesaver. This def won’t be the last VR I’ll own. Maybe I’ll save up for an r32 and make it a cool build as what you’re doing.

[@stephenprice7502]

Angel Gomez damn that’s a bummer. Sorry to hear about your GTi.

[@tiko5876]

My condolences mk4brotha

[@InitialXG]

Sorry bro. The stuff we do for our cars. I’m on medical leave and have no income but had to spend $1000 to fix my 24v GLI. I can’t let it go

[@thisisatest3236]

May the Volkswagen Gods give you peace and a new mrk4 R32. I just dumped about $2000 into my 01 vr6 2.8 GLX this summer.

[@chriskelvin248]

I will keep your car in my heart. My commuter is the very same car.

[@isaahmed5737]

*golf r sobs in background*😢 Golf R "aint i enough dad"

[@TonyDiazNYC]

I like driving my daughters 2016 GTI, it feels modern and looks awesome in black. Fast too. But there's something about the MK4 R32 that puts a smile on my face ALL the time

[@2of2DCH]

If the VR6 had been an option on my 2018 R I'd have checked that box with a quickness!! Totally agree on the seats as well. I'd seriously love to find a mk4 R32 to go with my mk 7.5R.

[@lucianomessina1438]

Lowered and with wheels, the mk4 looks way better IMO. I have a mk6 myself but there is something about the body shape of the mk4 that makes it look so good

[@kortufflpaua]

He thicc

[@AudiophileTubes]

LOVE the Mk4 shape! Very German.

[@amirb715]

only the sound. for everything else I'd choose R. Except that sound...ahhh....

[@MV-qm9ne]

Consolation Prize! : your neighbors love it that you don't have that noisy R32.

[@bgik12]

This is something that has actually been on my mind recently. I also own a MK4 R32 and the new R line golf's don't seem to have the driver feel or that glorious unmistakable exhaust sound. I hope I never have to replace my R32 but a VR6 option for the new Golf R might just win me over. Great video as always!

[@john_dee1431]

Agree about driving feel and sound with the Mk4. Driver's Choice.

[@oscarchang486]

Getting in my R32 and hearing it start puts a smile on my face everytime😆😆😆😆

[@HumbleMechanic]

Same!

[@oakkblackbird]

Same here Oscar!👍

[@sabirjussifo1171]

:d

[@alexiswenk7255]

Great Video👍🏼 Not many people know this, but the golf 4 R32 was also built with 4 doors. But only 500 times.

[@donodyn2715]

Glad to see others appreciate mk4s as much as I do mine.

[@69bock69]

as a child one of my all time favourite films was cannon ball run. the opening with the black Lamborghini, noise of the v12 screaming. I would rewind the vhs and play it over and over. this is close enough to living that moment for real. twisty mountain road , windows down nailing the loud pedal. decat for extra volume! have always been a VW golf nut from the first time I drove a mk2 GTI 16v, then mk1 GTI, mk3 GTI, mk3 vr6, mk4 tdi 150 and now I have a mk4 130 tdi colour concept in jazz blue and one of 20 odd red uk 2 door mk4 r32. I will never sell both. my daily 50mpg , and my beast. every time I turn the key I smile like the little boy who watch cannon ball all those year ago

[@doomsayer559]

The vr6 does sound great. Another great sounding v6 if anyone's heard one is a Mazda KL series 2.5L from the Mx6, Probe GT, Millennia & 626. With a good exhaust or even straight piped with resonator... 😌

[@acefighterpilot]

Don't even hypothesize a new model Golf VR6, for the longing and pity it conjures up in the deepest fractures of a dubber's heart, knowing that such an essential craving shall never be satisfied.

[@HumbleMechanic]

Truth!

[@paulmartin4387]

The R400 ? G-loder and a Vr6?

[@kottyking]

Speak for yourself 😂

[@yah5o]

The Mk4 R32 is a future classic. You should already see that in the prices. I can hardly imagine the following generations become classics in the same way the Mk4 did because there are too many of them.

[@HumbleMechanic]

I follow them it’s nuts! I’d like to add another to the fleet

[@aygwm]

It is already a classic.

[@jaydub5515]

I just stumbled across your channel recently while watching someone's video on Direct Injection engines, because I recently bought a Mazdaspeed6, and was wondering about oil catch cans. Anyways, the little segment you had in that vid was a great quick explanation on the issue, and I am glad I subscribed. You have a "real guy" sort of way of describing and explaining, and I dig it. Keep up the good work. Also, I'm really more of an air-cooled VDub guy, but I dated this girl back in the day who drove a red Corrado Vr6 with a stick, and I agree, that is easily one of my favorite sounding engines. Def best V6 I've ever drove

[@HumbleMechanic]

Thanks for the kind words. I have tired to buy so many corrados and the ALL fall through . HA

[@jaydub5515]

@@HumbleMechanic yeah, they are sweet little cars. It was nice too. Red paint with tan leather interior and bbs wheels. Man I wish I woulda kept her around, the car, not the girl... She was crazy... heh...

[@znismo1]

Same argument can be said about the M3. E92 M3 > F80 M3

[@YungJosh50]

I agree, E39 M5 > E92 M3.

[@conconr322]

I love the f90 m5 m

[@skylinefever]

I know many people prefer the E30 M3.

[@LordLorenzo834]

Wrong video

[@gregprevite8548]

The vr6 sounds amazing. The older cars you feel less buffered from the driving experience making it more engaging and exciting.

[@Virtuous-Concepts]

4 years plus since I sold my .:R32 and I dream about the day my kids grow up and I can have one again!!!

[@curlygerhard]

I sold my MK5 R32 2014 and buyed a MK7 Rline and a Year later i saw a MK4 R32 and i was flashed and my wife said no, and the MK4 R32 are still in my Garage^^. Dont worry our Child is 23 and graduadet. For sure i never sell a R32 in my whole Life^^

[@69bock69]

I said that when I sold my escort cosworth. Now 50k can't see that ever happening.

[@philB666]

Never had and never will do that... Sorry for your lost...

[@Dbbs3bg]

Just by looking at your videos, I’ve bought a MK4 for myself, but a 1,9tdi 4motion. Completly inlove with these cars.

[@HumbleMechanic]

MMM TDI 4mo.. I am jealous

[@chriskelvin248]

Charles, this series particularly interests me because I too have a ‘19 Spektrum R DSG (as my weekend car) and commute in my ‘03 GTI VR6 (original owner). I agree on the exhaust sound 100%. But actually my biggest let down is the difference in driving dynamics. Let me see if I can put it into words. In the GTI, I focus on driving”one-pedal-style”- the way that I balance the car in turns is by using minute adjustments in throttle to either induce lift-off oversteer or just manage a turn to feel just right through seat of the pants. Also, keeping my distance to the car in front of me is a very satisfying matter of also minute throttle adjustments. In the R, I expected to be able to drive similarly-as the DSG is essentially an automated manual trans. But I find myself unable to reach the same level of throttle adjustability with the chassis. The car just can’t hold its momentum with throttle at the same level as the mk4 can. I wind up having to use much more brake as if it had a torque converter constantly uncoupling off throttle. Or is it simply the increased back-pressure that the VR6 NA engine provides over the E888 turbo? What are your thoughts?

[@aaronpeople101]

The sound and response you get from a naturally aspirated engine is great for performance driving. Love the VR6.

[@andyr5937]

I have the rare mk4 r32 from the factory with DSG. To me it was the perfect combination when I searched for one 10 years ago. It’s still raw and visceral, but a breeze to push to the limit and driveable everyday in all weather. And the big Alu paddles are lovely

[@HumbleMechanic]

Awesome.

[@unknownguy1123]

The 4 door Golf R32 was only available in Europe (optional)

[@amb1valentchaos625]

You could've bought the sleeper r32 as I call it. They made an audi a3 4 door with the vr6 in it. I've been kinda secretly been advocating A3's to people looking for used GTI'S add A3's into there search since they are basically the same. Also since the Audi's cost a little more upfront they tend to be owned more by older "more responsible" people. I was looking for a Mk5 GTI in 6 speed. I found an A3 6 speed that was one owner, and had a little under 40k less miles on the odometer than all the other GTIs in my price range for around the same price.

[@Morphblinks1]

Yes. I recently purchased a 4 door mk4 r32 as a project car

[@davidryan5482]

Nope. They are here in Australia.

[@ocdpvw1]

All great points! The MK4 is totally a better car in many ways. If the 7.5 came with a VR6 manual it'd be hard to choose. I've heard of VR6 swaps across the pond in the newer MK7+ platform, but have never seen.

[@jokerscape]

Will never top the R32 sound and styling. It’s the last old skoll shape before the new sharp lines that’s been added to later models. I like the R just different thing nowadays.

[@evanacey1414]

As soon as Charles mentions the R32’s exhaust note at 3:10, did anyone else pick up on his quick, involuntary, ear-to-ear grin that immediately followed??? I don’t own a Mk4 R32 (yet), but I do own a Mk4 GTI w/ the 2.8L VR6 mated to the same 6-speed manual O2M gearbox in the R32, and I definitely know what Charles was feeling in that very moment.. In fact, I would argue that every VR6 owner who fancies his/her self a car enthusiast probably knows that feeling.. Pure joy and exhilaration!!

[@HumbleMechanic]

It’s true. So so true. 😎😎😎

[@HumbleMechanic]

Sorry about the weird upload before... Thanks KZbin! HAHHAHAHA

[@gilmello8296]

HumbleMechanic I figured out what was going on in the raw video. But when you look at the raw video vs the finish you get an idea of the amount of work that goes into these videos

[@horatiotimewaster5755]

The R32 sounds fantastic, but I'm partial to the MK7 R. I was surprised that you didn't say that the R32 steering feel was better than the MK7. At least in the GTI, it's good but could be better. Love your Spektrum color, by the way. Nice video.

[@rockymtnrebel]

I love the sound of the vr6 but to say it's the best sounding engine ever made by VW Audi I cant stand behind. That would be if you forget about the 8k redline 4.2 in the b7 RS4 and who can forget the original Audi Quattro with that amazing in line five turbo. The vr6 is definitely one of the grates though 👍

[@lazarushernandez5827]

I believe HumbleMechanic said the best sounding VW Audi made. The R32 was built at the same plant as the TT and A3 were, it is basically an Audi TT 3.2 under the skin. Best sounding Audi opens the door to many others, the RS4, RS2, Quattro, RS3/TTRS, R8, RS6, S8, RS7...

[@lyalminchinton8825]

Lazarus Hernandez it’s not an txt under the skin at all.

[@lyalminchinton8825]

Lazarus Hernandez tt

[@jaykay7932]

Best sounding vw... a Lamborghini

[@gorman13]

One factor I noticed, switching from a MK6 to a MK4, was the steering feel. The MK6 electronic steering has no driver feel, compared to the MK4 steering. Overall, the MK4 is a more visceral driving experience. Not that it's unstable, but you feel the speed more.

[@skylinefever]

I never drove both cars, so I wouldn't have known. The #1 reason I preferred German cars over others is the heavier steering feel when compared to American or Japanese cars.

[@someblokeonthenet]

I love the VR6 engine noise so much I swapped my 1.8t engine in my Audi S3 8L for the 3.2ltr VR engine... it will be turbo charged too very soon...

[@HumbleMechanic]

NICE!

[@someblokeonthenet]

@@HumbleMechanic Sounds awesome dude... kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJirkoyef9JsZ7M

[@skylinefever]

Back in 2011, my coworkers encountered an MKIV R32, and asked what what the point was. I said "Imagine liking the Subaru WRX but wanting something less hardcore. Power delivery is easier to control since there is no turbo, the suspension is a little more cushioned, and the interior is much nicer." It made perfect sense to all the guys. It is my understanding that when VW used turbo engines in later Golf R models, they eliminated the all or nothing feel of turbo boost found in rally cars. That made using a 6 cylinder engine unnecessary.

[@AudiophileTubes]

Are you kidding?! One look and drive of the R32, and one knows exactly what the point is!

[@skylinefever]

@@AudiophileTubes The cars those guys were into cars much different from the Golf R32. If they won the lottery, the first thing they would buy is probably a Chevy Duramax 4x4 or Ford Powerstroke 6.7 4x4. They would know very little about anything VW. These guys never even heard of a VW with all wheel drive. I knew what the R32 was because VW was my passion. VW was my passion because it was the only German car I could afford, and I like they way German cars feel.

[@FreeTheRocks]

I'll take my 85 Scirocco 8V over an R32. That was THE BEST balance of handling and ride. I miss that thing SO much even though I drive a new Golf every 6 months/1 Year.

[@BrakRulesAll]

I'm on my 2nd R (a 7 and now a 7.5) and also bought a new R32 in 2004 when they came out. Regarding the seats - for my anatomy, those Konig seats were absolutely brutal. I could NEVER get comfortable. Any drive over about 45 minutes and I was ready for a chiropractor. No such complaints about the current seats, especially the perforated ones in the 7.5, which hold like cloth but also breathe. Totally agree about the VR6 engine note vs any 4-popper on the planet - no contest there.

[@alanperry8676]

Yeah, I know this is an older video, but I just found it. I have owned two Mk4 R32s. I sold the second one because I needed four doors and replaced it with a chipped Mk4 1.8T GLS. I prefer the 4-door Mk4 look over the 2-door. I put off selling it to get a Mk7 because I like the look and functional features of the Mk4 so much better. (I adapted the Mk4 hatch bike rack to fit my Mk7, but I miss being able to fold up the rear seat bases so that the seat backs would lie flat.) But I appreciate how much better the Mk7 chassis is. And I may be weird, but the DSG shifts so nice as far as I am concerned that I find it more engaging than a manual because I can focus on my line instead and also having to select the right gear as well. I want a 4-door Mk4 shell on a Mk7 floor with a VR6, Haldex (with a HPP controller), and DSG.

[@Mikefngarage]

One just passed me today that R32 sound is awesome.

[@HumbleMechanic]

It really does!!! How you doin man

[@therealderjett]

Thanks for reposting this. I was getting crazy rechecking.

[@HumbleMechanic]

Yeah it was wonky as crap. Not sure what happened. LOL

[@salvatorecardinale202]

I keep my 2004 r32 with tectonics cams shaft, giac software, bilstein sport, sport h&r springs,and front h&r sway bar ,and rear adjustable h&r sway bar, with Oz super leggera rims with continental dwrs +6 tires, the car handle perfectly with this combination ,and with the tectonics camshaft and the giac camshaft file, the engine really came alive.

[@paulstabin6233]

You are so right about the sound. I still remember it 17 years later. I test drove this car when new and still think of it as one that got away. You didn't address weight, but thinking the R32 has to be lighter than the Golf R's that followed it. Less weight is always a good thing. I have seen good examples of '04 R32s for as much as $20K or even one at $32,000!...which is about what it sold for new.

[@zuestoots5176]

The R line cars are popping up like flies around my area. I would recommend training yourself to keep your thumbs out of the spokes.. This was drilled into my head in my racing days..

[@MrWilliam.Stewart]

You're a living legend Chazza. While I don't like the VW brand, I do however appreciate your videos, your skill, your persona. Please keep up the good work young man, you not only entertain, but bring joy into peoples lives. Always a thumbs up for Charles.

[@bendude6748]

You just cant beat the sound of a bigger engine no matter how much power your smaller engine is making

[@lloydbaatjes3710]

The limited number available (MK4&5) makes it the more desirable car + nothing beats the sound, period!! I’m lucky enough to own a 2008 MK5 R32, MK4 R32’s were never imported. Only 384 were ever available in South Africa and I will never part with it. Love the channel. Considering a career change and opening a shop of my own, just not sure I can pull off the beard.

[@Danny-1875]

Got a mk4 r32 bdb engine in my mk2 golf 🤙🏼 Sounds immense and is more fun to drive than more modern cars

[@David_Watts]

Being a MK4 R32 owner, of course my car is better..!! But I also know it's really not, just has really respectable qualities that are unique enough to hold a special place in my heart. And of course that's really the point.. It's style points are off the chart. And it makes me feel like a million bucks. Great video!

[@DerBlutsauger]

The early to mid 2000's seem to be the last of the "mechanical" cars. Future generations became increasingly dependent on electronics and lost their feel. Sure, the got faster, but they lost their soul. I loved my E30's and I kick myself for ever selling any of them, but after owning a Mark 4, I don't know if I would want to go back to the E30 as my daily driver. The MK4 hits that sweet spot between modern comfort and old school mechanical connection. Add the wookie noises and it's perfection on wheels!

[@AudiophileTubes]

Very well stated! My best friend had an E30 M3 'back in the day', and i'll never forget going to the dealership to pick up the car with him. And what a bargain too... I believe it was around $32K new!

[@ENDERGEDIK]

As an old owner of mkV r32 2016 5 door , I still miss that car too much. I recommend any petrolheads to have one or drive. I had a special custom made exhaust on it and sound was amazing. Thanks for the video too.

[@alexpope5327]

Wookie noises. SOOO GOOOOD... Ya'll have fun at WITW this weekend, I miss my R :(

[@DailyDriversCarReviews]

I’ve owned a red mk4 R32/ mk5 R32/ mk6 R and while the R was the quickest and easiest to tune, it being turbo, nothing is like the original R32, it felt like a tank and sounded like heaven... and therefore I now have a 2018 Passat Gt to once again have that lovely vr6 music, great videos Charles keep it up !

[@dodgefree1400]

The R wins because it's under warranty. We mere mortals can't own these cars out of warranty I'm sorry to say. The VR6 sound though, wow. I remember test driving the Corrado when this engine first arrived, wow.. awesome.

[@tiko5876]

Patrick Walsh What do you mean? They’re not even hard to deal with at all Hardest parts with the mk4s are those damn door handles and the drains from the sunroof flooding the car.

[@drkangel1134]

Put a 3.6 in the R. And do blog series of the process while you’re at it. You’ll have the best of both worlds!!!!

[@adhnaanyusuf8211]

Old school cool same why I feel about my 1.9 TDi the Mk4 so easy to fix

[@S54VR6]

You forgot to mention the Mk4 R32 is also a limited production car! And it was the only car in Volkswagen history to sell well over MSRP. All this means high resale value and future classic

[@skylinefever]

Sure, the MKIV R32 is a special limited production model, but wasn't there a 3.2 VR6 Audi TT during the end of the VW MKIV chassis? If there was, it might be a more affordable substitute.

[@philB666]

You're so right! Just a couple of changes on the suspension and we have a car who stick on the road (According to your driving skill... ) like I stick inside my seat and with the sound, I do not want a Golf R, at least never exchange mine for any one...

[@jimbo.t7510]

Can't beat that Vr6 sound , its right up there if not better than the LFA

[@toargames]

Everyone seems to remeber the R32 but who remembers the Seat Leon Cupra v6? Both the R32 and the Cupra v6 are a timeless design. I love those cars the sound is just amazing, whenever I see or hear a vr6 i get a smile on my face

[@____stu____]

I love my MKIV PD150 on cost me £800 goes like a train feels like a tank!

[@Fillup82]

Mine was £745 😁

[@bobbygoertz8513]

Love my MKIV 6spd PD150, I'm in Canada too 😂

[@nicolass8226]

You are perfectly right! The general feeling of these iconic R32 cannot ne explained, just experimented! For info, in Europe a 5 doors version of the mk4 R32 was available.

[@FukU2222]

I like the Mk 5 R32 the most personally. Just near impossible to find in Canada.

[@InitialXG]

FukU2222 I remember when I worked at a VW dealership, some guys wife made him trade in his mk5 R32 for a wagon because he just had a second kid and needed more space but couldn’t afford a second parking spot at their condo. He only got $8k trade in value for it and had only 56miles on it. You can see in his eyes how sad he was when the car was driven away from him to the back and how disappointed he was when he saw his new car. To add salt to his wounds, the guys in back not realizing the guys heartbreak started revving it because of how sick it sounded. The guy started crying 😢

[@PLr1c3r]

They are rare in Canada because we get the imports from the US but trust me you can find them just need a quick trigger finger because they won't stay on the market longer than a couple of weeks.

[@robbalinski1606]

@@PLr1c3r couple of weeks?? more like a couple of days!

[@lazarushernandez5827]

@@InitialXG $8K? There has to be more to this story; how much did he owe on the R32? How much did the new car cost? There had to be some financing finagling going on.

[@rohanjones7238]

I know they didn’t sell them there but any thoughts on the mk4 Jetta/Bora 4 motion vr6 24v ? Can get them cheap in Oz and looking at buying one .

[@MBenz00]

Mk4 R32 is collector edition awesome car sound looks ..everything great ride by the way..

[@victoraurimirpichardocalde6825]

Charles today I needed to work hard, so I’m watching till now, on the subject, I’m on board with the R32, love the angry hippos sound it has, no 4 banger will get that iconic VR6 sound

[@ice44567]

The R32 is definitely a better driver's car than the modern MK7 Golfs of any type. I love my '17 GTI, but in terms of fun factor it's lacking compared to the 5 speed 500 Abarth I used to have, which was also like the R32. Loud, brash, and fun to wind out despite being slow. Lots of people don't give credence to how a car actually drives, they just shit on its paper specs, lol. With that said, as far as livability on a daily basis? GTI/R HANDS DOWN. My god are they nice places to be in. And you can still have fun with them, just not as much.

[@Chrissy-H]

ice44567 if you haven’t already, try some track driving in your GTi. I’ve found the chassis balance way more playful and fun than I’d ever expected. I get bored of it on the road in daily driving tbh, but after each trackday I have a new appreciation for how brilliant it is.

[@outsidetheboxdesigns6265]

MkIV R32.....love this car...glad to see someone else is G.G. about this rare vehicle

[@swiftxb]

I still remember pulling up to a R32 on the street. OMG... My mouth dropped when he took off!!! Wow... Music to my ears.

[@kuattro2689]

This is the same way I feel about my B5 S4 vs my B7 A4. Not even talking about the power differences, but the S4 just feels way more analog. No buttons on the wheel, no abs or traction control, etc. just feels more pure.

[@chalkster4723]

Great video mate. Totally agree with you. I really dislike most vag models brought out in recent years, driver experience is being almost forcibly removed in exchange for unnecessary gadgets & gimmicks. Simple well made designs have given room to overly complex & largely unreliable tech providing an ever more sanitised driving experience (Certainly the case here in the UK) My daily driver is an 01 A3 1.8t which I still love & continues to be incredibly reliable. My other toy is an 08 R8 with manual shift which is a joy to drive. Keep up the good work my friend.

[@MC900t]

Nicely put. Agreed. Overload of Technology, even in today's "basic" transportation vehicles.

[@TassieLorenzo]

"I really dislike most vag models brought out in recent years, driver experience is being almost forcibly removed in exchange for unnecessary gadgets & gimmicks. " That's why Honda + Alfa Romeo > Volkswagen? 🤔 The Civic Type R has tech but it's relatively minimal, while the Giulietta Veloce is considered more "raw" and exciting than the Mk7 GTI (see the Harry's Garage review of Giulietta vs GTI)? (Also the Harry's Garages review of the CTRs, both FK8 & FL5 for that matter. Harry Metcalfe found the Mk7 Golf R to feel dull -- "you may as well be driving an ordinary Golf" -- compared to his own GR Yaris by comparison...)

[@chalkster4723]

@@TassieLorenzo Harry's Garage is a great channel. He's a wonderful commentator.

[@davefduncan]

I think this video pretty much confirms to ALWAYS have a VR6 in my fleet.

[@gtigio5067]

I went from an 00’ VR6 to an 04’ R32 and it’s just been amazing and I don’t think I’ll ever not want a VR6 in my life💙

[@VDeMuro]

I totally understand I have a 03 gti 24v vr6 for sale, and a mk4 r32 I drive. Next I would like to build a mk2 golf with r32 engine, haldex and boost it for a sleeper street car.

[@christopherbell7561]

The 3 door vs 5 door is why I stopped looking at the RS3's... but I do love that 2.5 5 cylinder engine! At the moment i will just stick to my Mk4 25th Anni 300hp TDi :)

[@maveric0738]

Great vid Charles. As you know I also have the MK4 R32 and I’m the original owner of mine. I have a MK7 GTI DSG. I couldn’t agree with you more. I feel more connected to the road with the R32. The R32 is such a RAW Car.

[@Sauspreme]

I came here from Jason's channel. Love your collabs and both of your works

[@HumbleMechanic]

Awesome. Thank you. 💛 my dude EE

[@builtsubarusti7408]

Couldn't agree with you more. Everything you've said is spot on. I miss a raw car that just gives you the driver experience. All the driving aids kill experience

[@solomonkinziehawver6624]

Yassir! I'm glad you mentioned the seats first, not gonna lie probably the #1 thing I love about this car.

[@Andrew-zv4fm]

The next video will be why the Golf R is better than the R32. I never liked the flat bottom wheel.

[@StopTeoriomSpiskowym]

R TSI crap engine R32 its old engine

[@L0rdVadr]

Thanks for a great video as usual. Even if I disagreed with everything you said (which I don’t), everything you said hit the nail on the head. Volkswagen gave The R32 something that Volkswagen themselves and a lot of car companies today still struggle to give most of their products- CHARACTER!!!

[@twentieth_r]

REMAKE THE VIDEO CHARLES! :') Now you have a 2.5 DAZA in the R I think we need a revisit!

[@Hath.0]

The sound, sunroof, 2 door option, the rare-ness, Up there with the Mk2 G60 Rallye Limited and MK3 A59 as the top Golf models, imo. The MK4 R32 is a vw icon.

[@ICG_Performance]

Thats a hard one for me I love them both still getting together the vrt in the Jetta over this winter 🥶

[@BlueBox777]

I like my MKIV GTI 20th Anniversary a lot more than ANY another GTI.

[@AudiophileTubes]

Such a gorgeous GTI, in every respect! Yours yellow?

[@nonoiscool98]

I think this would be a good breakdown over which one is better. The MK4 R32 is the best VW Weekend Car. A MK7.5 R is the best VW daily driver. Although you might not need 4 door doors. So a mk4 could be used as a daily still. In fact I see a lot of people daily MK4's still. Especially TDI models! I currently daily a MK3.5 Cabrio 2.0 with a manual 5 speed.

[@brianskinner4328]

Between the mk4 and 7.5, I prefer the mk4. Sounds better and seems handling is better. I actually liked the aaa vr6 note. What I also liked about the r32 was it was a 24v vr6

[@KansasSlim64]

2 dr MK6 R here. My kid’s driving my old MK4 VR6 Jetta @ 300K. That’s the car that made me a “dubber.” But I had to have more leg room at 6’5” and made the switch to the MK6. Would love a Wookie in this car, if it didn’t trash the handling. Is the VR really much heavier than the 2.0T?

[@allosaurusfragilis7782]

Both great cars. Weve had a mk 5 r32 for ten years now. Reliable, fun , holds value and sounds awesome. The R would leave it for dust on a twisty road but theres something really nice about driving the older car, with the bigger engine and no turbo. We are hoping to hang on to it because there isnt going to be many v6 petrol cars any more. We will miss them.

[@Bmovie5000]

What about comparing the limited number 2008 MK5 R32 to the MK4 R32? That I would like to see.

[@devinbrodbeck9104]

As an 08 R32 owner, I too would love to that!

[@paulwhite7475]

The two door option of every Golf model made is better looking that the 4 door version . End of discussion LOL

[@is2fiftyslowfsport744]

Actually the MK4 R32 did come in a 4 door but only in Europe, Ive seen one in person that was imported.

[@chrisrutherford3862]

Nice to see you playing with a Corrado Buddy!! It would be the glovebox for me I bet the mk7.5 Works LoL

[@mattpolhamus9194]

Great video as usual Charles! Love the VR noises for sure. Look into adding a Sony touchscreen HU into the mk4, easy way to add CarPlay to the older cars. Put one in my B6 passat and it was an easy install, looks fairly stock and works great.

[@stefan020491]

Here in Germany, you can find some mk7r with an VW vr6 or Audi r5 Swap. The poweroutput with an vr6+ turbo is higher than the 5zyl+turbo from Audi. But in my ears, the Audi engine got the best sound.

[@cuzz26740]

Hello HumbleMechanic i'm a fresh MK4 R32 owner :) and i love your chanel, i just wanted to tell you that the R32 4 doors exist but not so much of them live to this day :( in fact i was searching for a 4 door because i rather have a 4 door they look better imo but they are too rare so i decided to take a 2 doors and she's realy awesome i dont regret it :)

[@GMRS4]

We got the 5 door here in the uk, but actually for some reason in the Mk4 the 3-door looks way better, but on newer golfs, Mk5 onwards i prefer the 5-door. Another cool vid, cheers

[@franktamborello8012]

Plus those Mk IV Bauhaus looks! ❤️

[@bendayho3k3]

VR6 anything is better then the new engines in my opinion. Haven't driven anything with a dsg, but I like being in control of the gears.

[@FreshLeRock215]

The MK4 R32 was made and sold in a 4 door version. We've got plenty of them in Europe.