Everything Wrong With my VW R32

The VW mk4 R32 is awesome! . I love this 2004 3.2l VR6 R32. This VW does have issues. Today I show you many common MK4 issues, and some things we are going to do to repair them. Worn suspension, leaks, bad bushings, and broken plastic are just some of the issues the vw R32 has. #humblemechanic
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[@mikeyo1990]

Vr6 sound heals everything

[@juststuff5216]

^^That, and a second mortgage on your home so as to afford the repair bills!

[@ccm21r32]

Lost my mk4 R32 to a deer a little bit back, replaced it with a mk6 R. Nothing wrong with the R, it will just never be as fun, as aggressive, as in your face and dominant as the mk4 R32. The deep throaty sound of the 3.2 vr6 demands attention as it rolls down the road and the car stands out slightly more than other golfs because of the oem body kits. Truly my most favorite car I've own hands down.

[@shadowkeeper0]

So you need to replace everything but the engine...LOL

[@HumbleMechanic]

Hahaha. There is a good amount.

[@daevid21]

Why I turned mine into a track car lol

[@chrisnunez9033]

This is 2021 letting you know you were wrong …. The engine had to be replaced too

[@chrisnunez9033]

I’m in my Ford Explorer and decided to copy his acceleration pattern on the test drive while my windows were down and this on with the volume at max ………. R32 swapped Ford Explorer !!!!!! Anything is possible these days. It turned heads

[@playero33]

Lot to repair but the sound of the R32 makes you happy smiling

[@Uberragen21]

That's a boatload of issues to address, but... The sound of that exhaust makes it all melt away... until the check engine light pops on and you get dumped on the side of the road. But seriously, I love the sound of that exhaust!

[@Uberragen21]

@Pat Ball - No doubt. I would love to own a R32 gen 1 or gen 2. But they are horribly overpriced where I live.

[@edonazejneli5649]

Messeresser where do you live? I’m selling my 2008 r32

[@davidmorales60535]

Welp that acceleration clip made me go look for an r32 for myself now

[@HumbleMechanic]

It’s a fun club.

[@HumbleMechanic]

Thanks for watching. This R32 is gonna bring some cool stuff to the channel. Also big shout out to one of my favorite KZbin channels CinemaSins. Don’t be mad at me for copying you. 😂💙

[@chrism65]

Love the R32. I've got a 2017 R and really wish they kept the motor from your car through all the generations going forward.

[@HumbleMechanic]

That would be awesome. But the 2.ot is os capable. LOL

[@chrism65]

It is but I would trade a little bit of possible power for that sound.

[@anthonytrujillo7971]

I've got a parcel cover for an 04 gti If you want to pick up the shipping It's yours I'm in Phoenix

[@Daveyg131]

Josip Filipović handy to know... Nice one 👍

[@byranc5129]

Awesome video as always, Charles! I have a 2003 GTI 1.8t so I'm looking forward to seeing how you address some of these same issues that I am experiencing.

[@maveric0738]

Charles great video as always!! 👍🏼 I feel your pain! But...nothing beats the symphony of the R32...and VR6!!

[@HumbleMechanic]

Thank you sir :)

[@Daveyg131]

Lazaro Carreiro yeah... Kicks in around 3000rpm, no music needed ✌️

[@johno9507]

Maveric073. Id say my Volvo S60R 5cylinder turbo comes pretty close! ☺

[@maveric0738]

Daveyg131 oh believe you me, ask me how I know lol.

[@jhuntosgarage]

You're coming with me next time I want to buy a used car. They'll pay me to take it when you get done.

[@HumbleMechanic]

DEAL! There is actually plenty more things I found. But most are 5min fixes or not worth even talking about. HAH

[@traviswatson4986]

Lmao

[@christopersaavalderrama7384]

LMAO !! hahahah

[@wyattoneable]

I don't own a German car but a lot of what your going to repair and replace is universal so this will be a fun project.

[@roycephantom8563]

wyattoneable we don't own German cars either, for the most part their Mexican cars. German designed. Mexican assembled.

[@melwinrivera6320]

PHILTHY9FIFTY ♫ OFFICIAL except they’re not all made in Mexico. Lol

[@roycephantom8563]

I meant "for the most part" because if I'm not mistaken, the majority of the mk4 generation of Volkswagens were assembled in Mexico. I realize that there are plants in other areas of the world besides the Mexico plant, such as Brazil and Wolfsburg germany.. Among others. But I don't think what I said was incorrect? Someone please clarify whether or not the majority of mk4s were assembled in mexico?

[@chrisragone8785]

Or Brazil

[@melwinrivera6320]

PHILTHY9FIFTY ♫ OFFICIAL You weren’t wrong, although you made it sound like they were not well made if assembled in Mexico.. Regardless of location that the car is made, every vehicle still uses the same oem part number.

[@Firewired1]

I want a DIY on everything you do on your R32. It gives me motivation to fix mine !!

[@selflesswanderer]

Wanted to come here and give you a huge thank you. I was already thinking about how I would have to travel a bit to get the car I wanted but it was not until I saw this and the other videos in this playlist that I had the actual determination and precedence that it can be done. As of yesterday I now own a '04 DBP R32. I drove 5.5 hours to test drive it then 5.5 hours back. Yesterday I went down and picked it up. I have been watching the videos in this list over and over trying to glean what knowledge I can. In addition, I plan on trying to sign up for your HM Crew Member to try and get even more information. So again, Thanks Charles I appreciate it.

[@HumbleMechanic]

Awesome awesome awesome.

[@jhuntosgarage]

No shortage of DIY content. Go man go!

[@ReportedScammer0312]

I'm pretty excited to see you work on this thing.

[@ed200sx]

Thanks Charles! This was exactly what I meant when you asked 'what to do in next video'!! And that sound... man... we call it EARGASM lol... goosebumps all over.. I love it :) Enjoy your R32, and we will watch your vids fixing your issues! By the way Charles, Im wishing you a lot of smiles per gallon and a lot of save miles with your R32

[@S54VR6]

Just picked up a mk4 r32 myself. Can’t wait for all the content! Keep it up Charles!

[@sdtunstall]

With so many problems it's a great car for the channel and content. I'll be watching all the upcoming vids as seeing broken stuff get fixed scratches the ocd itch !

[@HumbleMechanic]

Yep. Honestly it’s just a handful of real issues. So hopefully we can all benefit from it

[@hhcosminnet]

The previous owner did not take care of her properly. This means you have a lot of opportunity to make fixup videos. :-)

[@HumbleMechanic]

Yep that is the plan. It should be an awesome series for the channel and for the community too.

[@Shabec2982]

Can’t wait to watch these videos. My 03 A4 3.0 had allot of these same issues. Great content, keep it up.

[@EvinDeCarteret]

Keep up the good work on the videos and now I’m glad you got a R32 because I can learn even more!

[@buddyrob353]

Love the CinemaSins play on this

[@HumbleMechanic]

Thanks. I’m glad you got it. I love those videos. I rarely watch anything at all but I do put on CinemaSins lol

[@stronger8888]

Congratulations Charles! And thanks for telling me why my interior lights do not work all the time :) waiting for the repair video!

[@HumbleMechanic]

No prob. I need to get on the ball with that, but they are $$$. I might take it out and fix it.

[@stronger8888]

Wish you good luck :)

[@johnmoser2689]

Love this Charles glad you got an R32 always fun to watch your videos So many similar mk4 problems I've dealt with one way or another Can't wait to see the progression

[@Mayamax3]

Holy 'project' Charles! That's a sizable list of repair items. May the force be with you.

[@theadventuresofjavier8698]

Regardless of the minor issues, that's one rad ride...sounds awesome.

[@HumbleMechanic]

Thanks dude!

[@Airbuss07]

Looking forward to the fixes. Thumbs up...

[@HumbleMechanic]

Thanks! I am rounding the parts up now to get the maintenance done and the critical things she needs.

[@chriskelvin248]

That sweet, sweet sound...I always regretted jumping on my 2003 GTI instead of waiting one more year to get one of these. At the time, I did not even know of its impending existence. Doh!

[@OziBeerMan]

Geez, glad you like a project and have a lot of energy. Awesome to see an R32 getting the attention it deserves. Both MKIV and MKV R32's are special cars. Well done and good luck.

[@stubbk3]

I'd love one of these. Best looking mk4

[@gilbreezy34]

stubbk3 second. mk4 GLI is the best looking

[@stgeorge6947]

gilbreezy34 + the last good golf

[@jasonmock848]

I wanna see the DIY cuz I had an 03 jetta gli that I had the water transfer pipe replaced on and it would be nice to know what exactly was involved in the job in case something were to happen again.

[@HumbleMechanic]

The MK3 crack pipe video gets you pretty close to the MK4. It's a little different, but not much. I will do a DIY on this one too. Heck I might even powder coats it.

[@GasInMyVeins20AE]

I'm really excited about this project. There are a few DIYs that will help with issues I have on my 20th.

[@LangersVW]

I reviewed a mk4 R32 for my channel a few months back and fell in love with it can’t wait to see the finished car my man top video just subscribed 😎👌🏻

[@erictsai1165]

Car just sounds Awesome! 😱😱

[@fat420cracker]

Gotta love that VR6 growl

[@robertschafer5547]

These solid control Arm bushings are R32 specific, and they actually fit directly to the MK3 Control Arms, which is a cheap and actually noticeable Upgrade!

[@HumbleMechanic]

Yep. I have them in my mk3.

[@ne2i]

ECS has the control arms with poly bushings installed. That would save time....

[@Hassan_Raheem]

Picked up a mk4 .:R a couple of years ago and have slowly been rehabbing it as well :) stoked to see your progress, some of your issues I still have to manage as well so can't wait to see how you do it all! Thanks for great content!

[@HumbleMechanic]

SWEET!!!!

[@MrJasonAlderman]

R32 owner here. Super excited to see your repairs! Mine is in much better shape but the soft touch rubber is one fix I haven't tackled yet, and I'm thinking about replacing the shifter bushings too. Thanks in advance!

[@slickdaddy3241]

VR6 is the best sounding engine VW has ever made, possibly one of thee best sounding engines ever made! Top 10 for sure. Put that in a package with, imo, the best looking golf VW has ever made and you truley got yourself a special car. I really want to own one of these someday and I'm not even a fan of European cars. It just looks and sounds so good with a platform built to be modded around the driver.

[@mariospantouvanos4645]

It's kinda weird that similarly aged cars can have very different conditions with different owners. It seems that the previous owner sipped almost every last drop of blood this poor R32 had. My dad's Ford Focus C-Max from 2005 with 115k kms drives, performs and it's interior feels like it's brand new. Quite mind boggling

[@VeritasEtAequitas]

It might feel like it drives fine, but you'd be surprised what you find when you go over a car with a fine toothed comb and the eye of a professional.

[@mariospantouvanos4645]

A daft punk The reality is that they found slightly worn out lower control arm bushings, but the service guys said that it is not something we should be concerned with. Now that we have new shock absorbers it handles quite precisely for a car of its category.

[@peacems]

Subscribed! I'm very excited for this rebuild/refresh series! As an original owner or a MK4 R32 with only 60k miles a lot of these issues exist or have existed on my car. Just typical for the age of the car and VW quality (or lack there of). 2018 will be my refresh year also so if I could ask, please start with the driver's door switch. Mine is acting up also.

[@swiftbunnyOG]

You talking about all these VW problems, most that Ive had myself, was worth the few seconds of wookie calls.

[@jamesk3565]

Would love to c u repair this car, maybe even mod a few things.....

[@HumbleMechanic]

James Kaminski that’s my plan. A different approach than the mk3.

[@rotaryrocket74]

Damn. hope you got a good deal on this thing...lots of things to fix.

[@HumbleMechanic]

Honestly I am pretty sure I overpaid. But I like the car so it’s not a huge deal

[@jbirzer]

This video made me feel good about how well I took care of my MK4 Jetta. It still had some issues, and some of the things you pointed out were issues in mine (Particularly the plastic.) Fortunately, found it a good home.

[@danmclaughlin3382]

Love your channel and your humble optimism. I'm excited to see you restore this gem of a VW to its factory glory (or better)! I'm also glad to see the B5 Passat (barely) made it into this video as well.

[@HumbleMechanic]

Hahha it’s true. I haven’t had the Passat in a video for a while. She will be making a return before too long

[@jeremywhittler8591]

I have new in the box H&R 20th anniversary blue springs. I think it's a 1-1.5" drop. Give me an address , I could ship them to your old dealership.( These should work on the R)-Is there a weight difference with the haldex?

[@HaloInR3v3rs3]

Won't work. Suspension setup is different on the R32 than any other MK4 due to the AWD.

[@HumbleMechanic]

Thank you for the offer. 😎

[@RustyBanditcsgo]

Can you send them to me XD

[@eovdubsvw8743]

I'm interested in the repairs, the heated seats especially.

[@HumbleMechanic]

Me too. I need my heated seats. HAHA

[@eovdubsvw8743]

It's the passenger side that all of a sudden stopped working. The side airbag scares me, so I haven't tackled it.

[@roycephantom8563]

eovdubs VW just unplug the airbag prior to any work you will be fine. Don't let it intimidate you. Also, one way to go about it, if you afraid of the seat going up in flames and the car along with it, just unbolt the seat and get ready so if you gotta give her the ol chuckaroo, you'll be all set! 👍 lol

[@Tylp]

I picked up a R32 MK5 Model almost 2 years ago and have loved it since. Though I do miss Driving with a 5 Speed on my old GTI. Going threw and watching all your R32 videos and got to say I love the transformation From the state that it was in on this video to the WitW (Wookie in the Woods) Video. ♥

[@half_r_mk5]

Love that VR6 sound. Goodluck on the rebuild. Looking forward to see it refreshed!

[@greasyginzo]

I hate when youtubers that “ding” sound in their videos. It drives my dog crazy he starts freaking out.

[@HumbleMechanic]

Oh man I’m sorry. As a dog person and a dude that has a dog that freaks out like that, I feel for ya.

[@greasyginzo]

HumbleMechanic lol it’s all good...It must be the frequency of how my iphones speaker produces some sounds because game show like noises also freaks him out but the same noise or video from a different source (tv or another phone) won’t bother him.

[@jeremyanderson1146]

diy on mk4

[@DanielSchenk99]

Very excited for this,would love to see a diy series on it ,love the exhaust tone ! Sounds amazing

[@mxskelly]

I'm loving the videos on this and I can't wait to see more! Just out of curiosity, and you definitely don't have to go into specifics if you don't want to, but would you say the car was worth it for what you got it for? Sure seems like there's a lot you'll have to do to it!

[@tjhamer3]

Love your vids. please stop the dings

[@HumbleMechanic]

Thanks. The dings were kind of a shout out to one of my favorite KZbin channels CInemaSins ~ kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXPah6iGbJppjrc

[@tjhamer3]

All good

[@Daveyg131]

HumbleMechanic Or... Keep the dings as it helps us people who are a little bit short of attention to know that we're onto a new subject/another thing to do.

[@braddowns17]

Just drives me nuts when people take things off like battery covers and belly pans. Then say the vehicle doesn't need them. Manufacturers do not put parts on that are not needed

[@HumbleMechanic]

Me too. I ordered a battery cover. And the guys at DieselGeek sent me a belly pan. Which is awesome.

[@emotionz3]

Everyone from Backyard mechanics to Body shops are notorious for leaving off belly pans, or at the very least not securing them properly where they make noise or flop around. You practically have to do everything on a car yourself if you want it done right. The only alternative is a dealer with a master mechanics and a fat wallet in your pocket. Personally I’d never trust anyone other than the dealer or myself to do a clutch or timing belt/chain on a VW. You are guaranteed bolts will be put back in the wrong place, or missing, and nothing will be torqued correctly.

[@thatguysellscrack]

Can’t wait to watch this series. I had a mk4 gt tdi 130 and it was the best car I’ve had to date. Reliable and super cheap to run. Moved onto to a škoda Fabia tsi vrs (basically a polo gti underneath, USA unfortunately doesn’t get Škodas) Keep it up man! Enjoying it!

[@peters4144]

The perfect car to hold the attention of viewers. Looks like there's plenty of issues to keep the content coming nicely. Looking forward to all the updates and repairs!

[@type2523]

Use OE rims !

[@HumbleMechanic]

I am on the fence there.

[@type2523]

HumbleMechanic ok !i love that you are not snobbing your subscribers !!!!you are the first KZbin that has over 100 k subs and answers !

[@type2523]

HumbleMechanic kisses from Europe

[@HumbleMechanic]

Thank you. LOL With out you guys I have no channel so I try and answer every comment I can.

[@type2523]

HumbleMechanic ☺️

[@Mortalomena]

I no longer wonder why VW is so cheap compared to other germans. My -97 Mercedes is pristine, everything is like new except some cracks in wood trim.

[@HumbleMechanic]

I think the MK4 did have more issues than most. Plus being a FL car didn't help. My MK3 has less broken dash parts.

[@jeremywhittler8591]

Audi and VW are designed with about a 5-7 year lifespan. Nothing comes close for the money in terms of driving experience. I hate my Japanese daily no comparison.

[@streetmtb]

Mortalomena that's untill you let him check over your car lol, my vr6 mk3 looks like a gem till I think about it.

[@MrJp1905]

Great video Charles,really looking forward to watching this build.

[@AkatarawaJapan]

I rate this your best video ever. Perfect pacing, intelligent content...and the loud pedal reward at the end. Thanks.

[@HumbleMechanic]

Thank you. 💙

[@Jekylnhyde55]

In the 2 years I've owned mine, routine maintenance has been the name of the game. After all, it's 14 years old! Front left axle, oil pump, starter, coolant flange (Eurowise), secondary coolant pump, and heater core have been the biggies. I'm just glad my interior integrity is holding up so well. Looking forward to the vids! - Joe

[@Pmstrify]

Always more mk4 videos! I have a mk4 vr6 myself. Can't wait to see you work on this thing.

[@geologic740]

Appreciate your thorough inspection. Looking forward to repair videos.

[@RobertSavello]

This is a perfect project car. Glad you're taking this on and providing video tutorials for the world.

[@Elkyblack]

It's already an awesome car and in your capable hands I'm pretty confident it will get all the love it needs over time. Looking forward to the future content with the R32.

[@aissaaneslyes3566]

the sound of the beast is amazing .I watch this vdo at 7:00 am and happy to start my day with . thanx

[@jcarey1010]

Super pumped about this car and the videos. I've had a mark iv Jetta GLI VR 6 6 speed that I pretty much need to do most of all of this too. Please keep the videos coming. Great info!! I have had mine for about 2 months so far.

[@HumbleMechanic]

Nice!! We have had ours the same amount of time.

[@jcarey1010]

HumbleMechanic - Hey can you post or let me know where you got the purple poly strut bushings and other bushings you installed. About to tackle that soon. Thanks

[@BlueBox777]

Great video as always! I have a blue '03 GTI (20th anniversary). I am also looking forwards to the projects.

[@williamngan9165]

Awesome car Charles!!! Looking forward to your upcoming videos on this car.

[@mccuenoirfilms]

I was sad the entire video until you started it up... then I had a huge smile on my face 😁

[@ElectroVeeDub]

"Ding! Ding, ding,! D-D-D-Ding!" I like the new sound effects Charles! Those super sexy dinging noises makes FUBAR'd suspension diagnosis feel like I hit the jackpot!! :P

[@Keorvane]

Congratulations on driving this car back this project sounds exciting~

[@gnarshread]

I bumped into you last weekend at Wookies in the woods. I was wondering who you were and why people made a big deal about you. Well, I get it now. Props for keeping an R32 alive and keep up the good work!

[@heribertoperezperez2068]

78 faults and all of them went away when you turned to the car on and accelerated. I also have the same MK4 R32 as you I have some of the similar faults but when I drive it I don't think about it anymore! Great video and good luck with your new jewel.

[@davidneves5240]

Awesome video! I have a 2003 Mk.4 VW Golf a I am experiencing some of the issues shown in the video. I'm looking forward to see how you adress those issues.

[@view2see1]

Sir this video soothes my pain...my 03 24v needs alot of the same TLC...cheers on the purchase 🍻

[@TheStretch78]

Great video, Im an avid VW fan. Love these R32's. Looking forward in seeing more!

[@aquaticasmr184]

Im super excited to see what you do with this car I have a mk4 and its good to see a r32 in good hands

[@patrickhall782]

Looking forward to repair videos on this. Never owned a vw, but a mk4 R32 is by far my favorite vw beside a vr6 corrado.

[@VachOrd]

Will be checking the progress of your R32 sir, as a VR6 guy myself always happy to see another VR is in great hands.. You cant forget that sound comes mile away... Thats VR6 👊

[@DJLokoMike]

Thanks to your show and awesome channel i have fixed up my 1.8t passat and i do not regret buying it and for that i thank you! My car had even more repairs then this r32

[@7fold4ever]

definitely excited about some diy on this car. I have an 08 rabbit and was thinking about replacing some suspension bushings on that. So looking forward to the bushing replacement part on this car

[@davelowery2992]

I had a Audi S3 on the mk4 platform too. Best thing about it was its interior every thing was perfect. But i had most the common 1.8T problems but man did i love it.

[@volpswagen_marco]

Can’t ever get enough of the violent exhaust sound

[@jcarey1010]

Still love this video. I have did a lot of these things to mine but I'm still not done. 03 Jetta GLI VR6 24v. Thanks for the info Charles!

[@ryanwilliams8820]

Owned two of these myself, both blue. Can’t beat the exhaust note and no crazy wing or pull me please styling. My favorite VW of all time. Be sure to showcase the Haldex service and the crazy wrench!

[@deejunior8014]

I can't wait for you to work on it love the r32

[@dymocaptin]

That is a long list of repairs for that wookie! Excited to see how you get through everything. I've got a project R32 that I've been working on for around 8 months and it's finally in a good spot. Doesn't have a stock exhaust though - I need to find one so I can get my wookie sounds back!

[@cuttyscustomdubs553]

I was so excited to see that you got yourself the R32 to go with your 12v vrt build. We now have the same set up!

[@HumbleMechanic]

You have good taste. :)

[@giuliasprint67]

So excited for some upcoming mkiv content!!!!

[@jessehendrickson4345]

Could you do a vid on replacing the rear view mirror, and explain your thought process in selecting it's replacement? Its a pretty common VW issue and I will be doing mine eventually. Love the vids!

[@Bmovie5000]

I totally agree, your R32 has been not well loved, which is sad since this IS the king of MK4’s. BUT yours is in good hands now. I look forward to all viewing your restoration and modification work. Thank you for saving this specimen.

[@rstar88105]

I liked how the exhaust sounds were [music] and [applause] in closed captions.

[@jonathanflores3019]

Love to see any work done on this R32!!!!!!!!!! Post all videos

[@coolissimo69]

cant wait to see the repair and how you did it great content.

[@Brandonhere1018]

I’m excited for this series! diy on everything please ! Lol. I just recently pickup a r32 and did many of those repair/upgrades myself because my car is in about the same condition as yours.

[@HumbleMechanic]

That seems to be the common state of “good” R32s

[@ricardoauerbach4092]

Bought the equivalent bushing kit for my mk3 Jetta TDI. Had issues putting the gear shift into 1st gear. The new bushings as well as gear oil did wonders. Along with a lot of other things I did, my dad said it felt as smooth as when he drove it off the dealership lot brand new.

[@aaronpeople101]

Sick car, looking forward to seeing the repairs.

[@SETHNAMIBIA]

hi, im so excited for your build. Things id like to know is: 1- Tuning the OEM Bosch me7.5 ecu. how to get started and how this is possible!!! Please please this would be a great one. 2- logging with vcds, how to understand what we are seeing as diy mechanics, to safely adjust fueling and injector sizes etc.. 3-what were your results after your compression test?(might have missed that) 4-if you can touch on the long runner intake of the 3.2, and its internal settings

[@mishadow2685]

Wish I could find a car like that in my price range. Looks like a lot of fun work ahead. Look forward to the upcoming vids on this. Especially the fixes for the dash/loose plastic. That stuff drives me crazy.