Why the Selle SMP should be on your bike

[@paulflory3532]

I don't know if this is true elsewhere but for a modest fee the SMP distributor in the US (Albabici) will mail you any 3 SMP's (your choice, except for the bare carbon ones) to test for a few weeks. To prevent you from just keeping them, these test models are an ugly half yellow/half red. Free shipping to you, you pay the return postage (they fit nicely into a flat rate Priority Mail box). The modest fee will be credited towards the purchase of a saddle. I did this and it was very helpful.

[@michaelmccann3469]

This is great to know...I purchased several saddles on ebay, the 209, drakon and dynamic and tested them out for several weeks. I ended up on the dynamic and has been an excellent saddle. This would have saved me on the resale of the ones I didnt' keep.

[@paulflory3532]

@@michaelmccann3469 SMP test saddles are also at some bike shops and fitters. A warning: SMP saddles tend to multiply. I have 6: 2 Dynamic, 2 Drakon, 2 Carbon Lite bare carbon. Also, the bare carbon ones can be damaged if your bike falls over or in a crash. Forma has a leather covering, no padding, and a more durable carbon-reinforced nylon base (and is less expensive and only slightly heavier). BTW Albabici is very easy to deal with.

[@Advcrazy]

Wish this was the case everywhere. I want to try one, but don’t know if I’ll like it let alone which one. I’m in Norway though and can’t find any to test 😢

[@paulflory3532]

@@Advcrazy The sellesmp website has tools at the bottom of the page to find dealers and test centers. If that doesn't work, contact a dealer and ask them who distributes Selle SMP in Norway, then contact the distributor. Or go the ebay route and resell the ones that don't work for you. Hope that helps.

[@Advcrazy]

@@paulflory3532 done! Thanks for the tip! Only two stores in Norway that I can find on the dealer locator tool though. One of them is the same store I contacted a few months ago who said they don’t have test saddle available. Both 8hrs drive away and the tolls and charging will cost as much as the saddles. But sent and enquiry to smp anyway

[@jimmayer7779]

I would like to thank Neill and Cam for producing and sharing this video about Selle SMP saddles. Because of the content of this video I was able to overcome more than 10 years of hip pain by switching to the Drakon saddle. After 6 rides I have not had any hip pain!! While the "look" of the saddle is odd, it feels better not to be moving around on the saddle so much. It has improved my pedaling, comfort, speed and cadence. Your efforts have helped me tremendously.

[@Hambini]

I got one and I get slated on my channel regularly for it!

[@roadcyclingacademy]

Welcome to the club mate. If you're not getting slated for something on your channel, are you even a proper youtuber?! - Neill

[@clp91009]

I could listen to Neil for hours

[@alfagtv100]

I have used both the Drakon and Lite 209 for many years. Great for the XC riding I do. These saddles are well made and hold up extremely well. You are bang on concerning dialing in the angle. When it is wrong, it feels like you are in a constant argument with the saddle. The profile does not interfere with bum movement during technical riding and is wonderfully supporting during seated spinning or powering. Great, super informative video. 👌👍👍👍

[@chrispana220]

Been on a Selle Drakon for years then moved to sqlabs, but after a bit of adjusting I’ve finally found the sqlabs works well for my parts…also it was important to install on a 0 offset seat post (bmc roadmachine 01) which I had to buy seperately , I had a lot of trouble with a +15mm offset, something to look into as a lot state you need a zero offset for it their saddles to work best… Neil was my first fitter when he was Melbourne based, luckily I’ve become a bit of a part time fitter myself, highly recommend him and his process.

[@hanifschanel]

I've been using sqlabs for 2 years now, should i try selle drakon or just stay with Sqlabs?

[@mickeymouse4897]

@@hanifschanel SQ-Labs are shit, overly heavy, fugly & not well engineered

[@paulflory3532]

My first encounter with SMP saddles was at a fitting: the fixture had a SMP Carbon Lite (bare carbon, SS rails) mounted on it. I looked at it and thought, "Boy that looks uncomfortable but at least I won't be on it very long!" Found it so comfy that I got one and rode on it for several years! Then I developed a cyst Down There (probably NOT due to the saddle). After that healed, decided some padding might be prudent. Now I use Dynamics (same shape as the Carbon Lite, 5mm padding) on the road and a Drakon (same shape, 1cm padding) on the trainer. Rarely aware of the saddle at all while I''m riding, which is what you want. SMP's are pricey but at least they shouldn't be a wear item. (1) Yes the range of saddles they produce is too big. It helps that many of them fit into two basic shapes with varying thicknesses of padding. The wider Carbon Lite/'Forma/Dynamic/Drakon/etc and the narrower Carbon family. (2) Because the saddle angle is so critical, it's important to level the bike axle-to-axle by shimming when setting the angle. This includes trainers, which IME require shimming for use (unless you want to train up or down hill constantly). Rather than measure drop of the saddle, I prefer to use a digital level set on a (straight!) block of wood resting on the top of the nose and the top of the rear of the saddle. This ensures consistent measurements when trying different angles.

[@sb7319]

After a long deliberation and reading Steve Hoggs reviews, I finally bought a Dynamic saddle. The thing is definitely not cheap but it’s the first saddle that I’ve ever really felt rock solid on. Should of got one 20 years ago! The angle is a pain to set up, but the setback is great-the rails allow you to move back and forwards without have to correct your seat height. The saddle tells you if your not sat correctly, cos you feel either the ramp or the tail if it’s out. Posture is a lot better too since I’m sat snug and can’t move around. I can even feel my core being more relaxed than before. Great videos by the way Neill 👍. They really have helped a lot . Thanks 🙏

[@sanktjohanser]

Neil has definitely changed my outlook on bikefitting - as well as instilled a healthy skepticism for all bikefitters I encounter! Please pass a huge thanks on to him. With regards to the saddle issue - I switched to a SQlab saddle about 4 years ago and it changed things for me drastically. Recently I‘ve been riding 1000km+ distances. As my behind parts are pretty much sit bones covered by skin - it‘s caused me to look for other options. I would really be interested in hearing Neil‘s opinion on the Infinity bike saddles - saw that a couple other people mentioned them in the comments. Thanks again for the great videos and all the time you invest in the channel - makes me wanna move to Australia!

[@peterwillson1355]

What does tiding 1000k distances mean? In a week, in a month, in a year.....

[@sanktjohanser]

@@peterwillson1355 yea, I didn't explain that very well. I ride mostly Brevets and Ultra-Cycling Events. The time limit tends to be around 80 - 90 hours for 1000im.

[@timoldham801]

Thanks Neil, love my SMP evolution. Best saddles on the planet

[@brothermaynard3759]

This video is the most significant cycling video I’ve ever viewed. Based upon it, I purchased an SMP Drakon saddle. Just returned from a 31 mile ride. Best cycling-related money I’ve spent! My backside is pain free, my sit bones are not inflamed, my right knee is pain free and my legs are not fatigued as they have been in the past. Took on the advice and dropped the nose down about 12mm all the while placing the saddle in approximately the same position on the seat post as the previous saddle. May want to tweak the fore/aft position a bit, but overall, I couldn’t ask for a better experience out on the bike. Thanks gentlemen!

[@Johan-vk5yd]

6:45 I guess I had mine too steep, on my most recent 300 km tour. The first 200 km were nice and the last 100 km was a struggle. I’m looking forward to make up for that mistake on this years tour (Vätternrundan) Thank you so much for the tips!

[@trentbryan8226]

I too would like your thoughts on SMP vs SQ Labs as a comparison. Love the channel

[@thomasraywood679]

The Gel Flow version of the Selle Italia Turbomatic Team saddle (which came out in late 2009) has almost the exact profile of their SMP Nymber. Both also have carbon rails, and weigh 230g. Where the Nymber saddle is 239X267mm, the Team is 250X275mm, making it about 5mm wider than the Nymber per lobe. More importantly, with the obvious exception of the anteater nose on the Nymber (which is why it's shorter), a visual inspection of the two saddles proves them almost identical. There's an ever so slight increase in the slope or rise of the Nymber back in the last couple inches which, as you say for the SMP generally, tends to help anchor the rider. It's accomplished by padding, not platform/substrate. But what the Team saddle does at that same juncture is close off the split. This is right where the coccyx plants, and this accomplishes the same thing as the SMP without the slight change in rise. I find it remarkable that your favorite version of your favorite saddle is a race winning profile Selle successfully hit upon fourteen years ago.

[@GNX157]

I don’t care about looks either and some time ago had actually given this saddle consideration until I learned of the cost and availability. If there was a situation where I could borrow an SMP saddle for 30 days to try and know for sure it was good, I’d buy one, but I can’t roll the dice for $300 on one. I’ve already done that with others and I’m done doing that.

[@pisstaker5552]

Agree. I've spent more on saddles over the years than I have on anything else. It's just not something you can waste money on trying to get it right. There needs to be better try-before-you-buy options available

[@Lemond75]

SMP offer a very good test saddle system, where you can try almost all of the saddles in their range, and for a decent period of time too. Might be worth checking who distributes SMPs in whichever country you’re located in to see what they can do for you.

[@northkyt]

There are a couple of online stores you can rent SMP test saddles from for two weeks if you are in the USA, Colby Pierce bike fitting and BikeSeatGuru. I've been testing most of the SMP range through them. So far I like the Drakon and Blaster the best, Nymber is next on test. I currently use SQLab saddles and those are very good, but eventually cause me trouble on a longer ride (3-4 hours).

[@paddyotoole2058]

Just get a Selle Italia Flite. Job done.

[@luismoraissarmento7213]

The SMP selle has saddles for test. I tried several before I bought my one

[@jeffhaas9168]

I endured an entire riding season of lower back pain with saddle. I added it before my first spring ride after taking the winter off. Out of the gate I had lower back spasms, but I thought it was rust from the winter layoff and my body just needed to adapt. I tried everything, including all sorts of new stretches and exercises to relieve the pain. In September I finally put a different saddle on the bike and the back pain went away. I think the curve of the saddle was tilting my pelvis, that’s by best guess.

[@Kelso66]

Same thing here, couldn't get it set up right and got back pain from it.

[@DR_1_1]

I also prefer something more flat, because I need to move slightly back/forward depending on the effort needed.

[@DiegoCamarero]

I ended up here as I'm a faithful user of Sell SMP saddles in all my bikes. But I can't help noticing that Spanish BH (BH stands for 'Beistegui Hermanos') is a damn mean rocket. Stiff, aero, no-nonsense rim brakes. Gotta love it.

[@keithmyerscough9900]

Taken the plunge with a dynamic, good second hand FB marketplace £90 purchase. First ride instantly felt the relief the open channel gives the old chap , Will fine tune over next few rides but wow what a difference from my fizik Aliante 👍👍👍

[@Silidons91]

I am 90kg and have used the Selle SMP Dynamic for over a year and I love it.

[@jaluban]

Thank you so so much for this video! I've tried so many seats, fittings, and pads but have always had perineal pain >2-3 hours of riding. Just ordered a Nymber per this video and hoping for the best. Also hoping it works with my Pinarello stem. Also just watched your vid on reach/stem length. Soooo helpful! Thank you!

[@WstalSprzedKompa]

Next time, please discuss SMP Well S. Very unusual construction - for size S, the shape differs significantly from the M version. There are special "holes" for ischial tubercles, the manufacturer thought that for very narrow pelvises, the construction and not just the width must be different ! AMAZING stuff :)

[@rki3316]

Amazing saddle.Just finished my first ride before i finished to watch this movie...and WOW.Comfort and power transfer of this one are amazing.I felt something like this actually first time (maybe beacuse im amateur and this is my 5th saddle).AMAZING .Worth every penny.

[@FuriousFilipino]

Had I not found this channel, I wouldn’t have tried any Selle SMP saddles. I need a more padded saddle due to an asymmetric ischial pubic ramus, so I started with a Well S Gel. The gel feels great, but the transition from gel to high-density padding was too abrupt and I would get hot spots at the transition point. Went with a standard Well S and it feels so much better. I also purchased the Hybrid, which is the lighter version of the Extra and has more padding than the Well for use on my stationary/Zwift setup.

[@MazingerZX]

Great vid and info! Still can’t get over how they look.

[@krokodoc8506]

When you live in germany, you can order SMP test saddles for free (3 at a time, only shipping costs). Just got the Nymber, Lite 209 and Blaster to test. Got quite a collection including SQLAB and Ergon saddles, but the SMP are another level. Thank you Neil and Cam for promoting.😊

[@ivanmazur9233]

One issue that I had with the SMP Drakon was on the trainer. As Neil mentioned, these saddles tend to lock you into place, which could be good for outdoor riding, but really challenging on an indoor trainer. I had to switch to Selle Italia Bost for indoors.

[@arifazhari7598]

Just like pro stealth saddle

[@aubreyxengland]

I just picked up a selle italia boost for this same reasoning.

[@Anthony-pr1cy]

Grateful for your comment. Been looking for a new saddle for the trainer and glad I saw this. Thanks Ivan!

[@bobowsinski1704]

I’ve used the Selle Well saddle on all my bikes. Replaced other well regarded saddles and would never go back. Whether on my trainer or on my outdoor bikes they are very supporting and comfortable. Several century rides and mountain races with excellent comfort. They have an app that guides you to select the recommended saddle

[@TheMerckxProject]

I can second what Neill says about the nose tilt, and the Nymber. I've had one for two years, and once I finally dropped the nose down, it really is the saddle I prefer on my 'speed' bike. I alternated between it and a SI Flite with a Superflow cutout. The Flite goes on the endurance frame, the Nymber is on the aggressive frame.

[@kennethallen2018]

I really appreciate this channel, especially Neil’s knowledge about bike fit (saddles, cockpit, cranks). It is all very helpful. I don’t know if they respond to questions, but I wonder what Neil’s opinion on the Selle Smp Pro saddle is. Ive used it, and liked it for the most part. I think it was one of their flagship saddles, so i am curious to hear Neil’s opinion. It is very wide, and fairly well padded. I also appreciate that they use high quality leather, Selle SMP that is.

[@vitorcosta8765]

Loved my SMP saddle when I used MTB. Numbness was gone once I started using it. Was an amazing saddle. And as a heavy (100+) person, it was great and comfortable to me.

[@yuvrajmahendru2149]

Which model did you use with your MTB?

[@vitorcosta8765]

@@yuvrajmahendru2149 SMP Hybrid

[@tylerherriman5243]

I have the Vulkor and absolutely love it! I must thank Colby Pierce for getting me on one!

[@davidnicholson6680]

The shape reminds me of the old SSM Concor Supercorsa. My favorite current saddle is the Pro Stealth which is the opposite of this: broad, flat and short.

[@willwilling4728]

I just bought one for my tri bike. I got the T3. I ordered mine from Germany. It was the best price I could find.

[@JohnChristopher-k7u]

OK this is my two cents. The Selle SMP TRK saddle first came to my notice via a riding pal of mine who had one on his Scott E-MTB hardtail and the moment I sat on his bike, I was sold. It’s been on my bike (a Giant Fathom E-MTB hardtail) for almost four years and done well over 1400 miles and in that time it’s been really comfortable, which on a touring e-MTB hardtail was really important. Alas of late, I’ve noticed a quality control issue which has completely destroyed my confidence in the saddle. This issue first came to my attention again via my mate, when his saddle suddenly stated to fall apart with the leather cracking before the material separated itself from the frame of the saddle. He did all kind of hack and bodges in a vain attempt to remedy the problem but in the end he was forced to abandon the saddle altogether. I did not know that it was a fore taste of things to come with my saddle but today my saddle is now scrap with deep gashes and cracks in the leather which could no longer be covered by gaffer tape. Given the cost of the saddle, this poor build quality simply wasn’t good enough. So my final analysis is that the Selle SMP TRK saddle is a great saddle especially if you’re a big/heavy rider doing your thing on a hardtail but (given it’s cost) the quality of it’s build and durability is really poor. As a long term investment for your bike, it isn’t worth it.

[@gregw8390]

I had discomfort and numbness on a regular saddle - I bought an SMP Well saddle and have never looked back! Appreciate there’s not one “perfect” saddle for everyone though. Great video!

[@BenSietze]

Been using Selle SMP saddles since 2016, not looking at anything else anymore. Started with the Drakon which I love. I got it fitted on the bike perfectly from the start. First time riding with the Drakon, together with some very good bibs, and I literally didn’t notice the saddle at all after multiple hours on the bike. Wanted to try less padding and got the Dynamic. Drakon went on the MTB. Dynamic had a bit too little padding for me at the time. But since then and now I lost a fair amount of weight and the dynamic is a very good fit for me now. Tried the F30 but that didn’t suit me too well. My trekking bike has an SMP and so does the indoor trainer. Got my wife an SMP on her trekking bike and my son a Drakon on his first road bike. All fantastic. Now I just noticed that they have some new models - F30c s.i. and F20c s.i. I just finished building up an allroad bike, now fitted with my old Dynamic - but playing with the idea to try out the F20C s.i. Have you come across this model yet, and what‘s your take on it?

[@fede1275]

I was stupidly put off by the looks of SMP saddles, but got a Selle Italia Novus Boost, the old model. It's an SMP copy, less curved and I love it. The new Novus is now a Power copy.

[@degolas2971]

I, too, also like the sensation of being held 🥺

[@paulspringall8077]

Brilliant Video...!! I have been looking for ages for information on Set Up Levels....Now I know..Thankyou..!!

[@TimothyTakemoto]

I used two SMP SELLE Evolutions and the carbon one for about 10 years and I loved them, but these days I cycle resting my weight on my thighs, not on my pelvis, and cycle "bunched up at the back" like cyclists of old, see-sawing my femur, pushing forwards with my quads and pulling up with my glutes. If you look at old videos of e.g. Eddy Merx they used to even sprint from the back (like they are on a really high recumbent). You can up the cadence and hardly move your femur from horizontal, a bit like the way you can get the most revs from a "powerball" wrist exerciser.

[@RichardMigneron]

Thank you very much, I need a new saddle and always looked at SMP but didn't know where to start.

[@vincem5]

thanks Neill for getting me on the Dynamic years ago and thanks for this video. it is so helpful explaining the differences between them ( so many to choose from) has i have a new bike and a new saddle in needed. a 209 or drakon sound like the one.!

[@photog2903]

I probably have 30 saddles (maybe more), including 12-15 Selle SMPs. I’m 6’2” and about 220, down from 250lbs. The saddle that has consistently worked best for me, even at my heaviest? The Selle SMP Forma, which is completely unpadded. As a bigger, heavier guy, this was completely unintuitive to me, but it’s absolutely true. I regularly do 100+ mile rides and the Forma makes it possible.

[@brianbecker1468]

Ok so I started with a Nymber and it is great. One comment for everyone trying SMP, don't be afraid to dip the nose, I found nirvana at 25mm down. I started at 12 and kept moving down in 2mm increments using an allen key for a spacer and then levelling the level, worked a treat.

[@johnalvar]

Got the Well M1. Excellent coming out of 143mm wide saddle.

[@randy3907]

Dealers usually have the factory red & yellow "test" seats to try

[@drlodge]

Great comparison thanks. I have the Lite 209 and am around 80kgs well, actually I have 4 of them!!

[@bridwell34235]

Thanks for all the truly helpful information! I am a retired senior (75) getting back into cycling for fun and health. So many channels have great info if you are going to be competitive or younger :-). After watching this video about 8 weeks ago I went on the website, used their saddle finder, and it gave me 3 options. I found a fairly local shop that carried smp and tried out 2 of the 3 they had in shop and settled on the smp 1st recommendation for me. Since I have put it on a new bike and have finally gotten the height and position pretty close to right I think and it has been great! Thanks so much. Wish I had seen something like this before retirement as I used t travel to Oz a couple of times per year for business (Melbourne and Sydney) as I would greatly appreciate being able to consult with you for fitting shoes, etc. I have not been able to find a fitter here in our area. Again thanks for all the great info!

[@martinmartin400]

this is just massmarketing without telling and he is reported!

[@bikesavvy3654]

Have been using the composite or full carbon since 2008. Just this year went carbon rails. The Well model suits 99% of my clients

[@anthonybennett6089]

Best thing I ever bought - supreme comfort and well worth the money.

[@geothunder1971]

Been rocking the carbon rail drakon for years! so comfortable I love the that your secure and don't slide back and forth while seated. Hopefully SMP will offer a 3D printed version at some point.

[@mokotramp]

I've been using ISM saddles for years, transformed my riding beyond belief!

[@cyclonutterd7075]

What happened to SQ labs saddles being the best? I was just about to buy one. Do you find the wide slots cause haemorrhoids?

[@roadcyclingacademy]

Best for downstairs relief I believe Neill was emphasising. I'll ask him to get to this Q though!

[@Lemond75]

Love the principle of SMPs, and have tried several, but as someone who doesn’t sit squarely on the saddle (despite several bike fits) I can never get fully comfortable on them (or any saddle for that matter). The feeling of stability they offer is fantastic, and you can feel your back and core muscles relax when using them, far more so than with traditional saddles. Whilst expensive, if they fit you then there’s nothing better out there.

[@roadcyclingacademy]

Yeah if you're oblique to the bike, SMP's are tough to deal with as they don't tolerate pelvic assymetry as much as a flatter style saddle. Good call! - N

[@taavinen]

Wife and I have spent the last 7 months touring through Europe on Brooks hard plastic saddles. Travelled over 9200km on 54kg loaded bikes. We have never needed to ride with knicks once. So incredibly comfortable! Whilst I am aware that the geometry on my disc trucker is quite different to my roadie or MTB, I plan to try one of those SMP full carbon set ups on my return that was mentioned in the video

[@AdamEwart]

O, how I have longed for a proper side by side style rundown of these saddles! I've been interested in trying these out (coming from a Spesh Romin addiction), but their cost is not conducive to experimentation. Thank you Neill, this one is going straight to the bookmark section for future reference. Great vid!! 👌

[@n0ch91c3s]

One small note - the black saddles are leather. The ones in colors are synthetic.

[@mechanicaldavid4827]

I switched to SMP profiles for my trail and bikepacking steeds. I have no discomfort after 8-12 hours in the saddle!

[@jacekratajczyk2583]

I have bought an SMP Well to try it. Watching few videos decided to set it level - rear of the saddle with the highest point of the nose. Gosh, I could barely walk next day after 1hr ride. Got pain in lower back for two days. Then I put the nose down 12mm and decided to give it another try - did 150km. Wasn't bad, but I felt a bit pain on my inner thighs (migth be that other pair of knicks with different pad shape and chamois creme could help). I'm worried, because have to finish 300km granfondo in July and still looking for good saddle position. For those who use SMP Well - what's your saddle drop and fore/aft posistion regarding to standard saddles ? Might be, that the SMP needs to be placed more toward the BB ? Really appreciate your help and comments.

[@enigma1000]

I bought SQ Labs 612 following a recommendation on this channel. So is SMP ‘better’? The SQ Labs is ok but not fantastic. I have tried SMP on a trainer but couldn’t get a comfortable position with it. But there are so many models I may have tried the wrong ones or still not got the angle right. Almost tempted to have another trial but they are very expensive to get wrong.

[@leedorney]

I've used an SMP for longer than I can remember, used the lite 209, raced on that though then went to Pro Shimano thing but I'm on a tt5 and its got cushioning... A mate tried my bike and he said 'it feels like theirs nothing there' lol and I said, yes that's because you aren't getting the pressure on your knob and prostate, they make a lot of sense!

[@greidgreid]

This content is golden.

[@totalrepawns]

on the sq lab saddles for the last few years going to the smp soon enough

[@keithuram]

I tried several of the non-pro versions and liked the Well (formerly with the better name, Hell), but found that I had a little pinching on my inner thigh. Tried the Well S (about 5mm narrower and shorter than the Well), and loved it. When I got the angle dialed in I knew immediately. Back pain went away completely. Tried the Extra (same size but more padding). Thought I'd prefer it for gravel. It was fine, but found that the muscles in my lower back fatigued more, so now I have the Well S on everything. I prefer the coverings of the non-pro to the leather of the pro, because I can slide a little easier (not slip). Have you compared the pro to the non-pro series?

[@jonfrderick]

Why does he not mention the Well Series?

[@keithuram]

@@jonfrderick I'd have to go back and watch again, but I think he only mentions the "pro" line, and not their "sport" line.

[@paulwhitehead1190]

The SMP lite 209 was a game changer for me.

[@jimmyduffer9769]

Would love to see what you think about the new smp f20c s.i.

[@00bikeboy]

I've been using a SMP Composit for over a decade. If I ever needed to replace it (they're very well made) I wouldn't hesitate to buy another.

[@StayZero556]

I’ve been running a TRK model and I like it quite a lot. It’s not particularly expensive, either. I think it cost me $80ish.

[@nkpv7108]

Thank you for your detailed and insightful review of all these saddles. I would like to request your advice in choosing the right SMP saddle as a 73 yr. old male long time road cyclist. Currently have a Terry Topo saddle, giving me perineum issues (genital numbness and severe inner thigh chaffing resulting in deep soreness during short/long rides (3-4hrs). Profile:( Hgt-66"- wgt 175-180) I have looked @ the SMP VT30, SelleSMP Drakon, Selle SMP Nymber. Would appreciate your professional advice based on the above issues. Thanks:

[@Godspeed961]

6:32 lol how i use that yellow tool ( how it called??) to set the saddle straight??

[@carlhulston7157]

I'll definitely try an smp next, but I'm finding it hard to turn my back on the trusty old flite titanium and my fancier speedneedle saddle.

[@robertmcfadyen9156]

I have a "DA BOMB" , Booster urban camo saddle which has a similar shape and it is not bad at all .

[@brianbecker1468]

Hi Neil, I've used a Toupe for many years however I'm currently on a SQ lab Active size 13, after watching your video and am reasonably happy however in the interest of progress, where do you think i should start if I want to try SMP, Drakon, Well, Dynamic, Nymba, Blaster etc? I'm about 78Kg older rider.

[@chrisziehmer]

Do you have tested the new short nose saddle with no padding, the Selle SMP F20C s.i or Selle SMP F30C s.i.? How do you liked it, in perspective of a bike fitter?

[@MarkWilliams-e9d]

Old time fitters knew these saddles 18 years ago. Saddle declinatiom with SMP's is everything.

[@dentalcare1]

My favorite saddle.

[@matthewsweat]

I have been curious about these. I currently run a ISM PL 1.1. So I'm used to "funky" looking saddles haha. Its a good saddle But might have to check out that Nymber. Im 5'10" 155lbs I sit up right but rotate my hips for the aero bars.

[@TheSlowMethod]

Hi! Don’t have the means to get a TT bike, would a TT style saddle and prolongateurs do well on a road bike? Even incline my current saddle is uncomfortable in an aero position 😅

[@kidsafe]

Love my Blaster. Wish they were lighter though…

[@T_G_C_]

Can you tell me if all the SMP range have the same measure or angle. I have the full carbon model just like yuors and it seems that the back end is higher and more vertical than the other ones you're showing there. If that´s the case then the 10-14mm gap wouldn´t apply, right? Also, could you tell me how the leather skin was applied in your seat? was it just glued? Thanks in advance. Great content!!

[@PuneethBedre]

I got myself a selle smp well and my man parts couldn’t be happier. They don’t turn off mid way a hard indoor effort. Scary to say the least

[@mro4056]

My SMP rails bent and vinyl split on the side and tore on the inside of the cut-out.

[@Emtbtoday]

I think i jsut got lucky with my new emtb last week i went and bought WTBS new Comfort saddle and im a bigger set guy my new smartphone like saddle that it came with was unbelievable solid no padding but was smart but them years are gone whare a saddle was only for looks lol wtb really have surprised me with this Comfort saddle it looks bigger in pictures etc when looking but its not really its jsut thicker padding and for the price yeah its a winner for me!

[@boriskho]

Feedback about Selle SMP Extra Saddle will be very appreciated. Heavy rider >80 kg, endurance bike with TT clip-on bars, >3 hours ride on average quality pavement

[@florianabrahamson2834]

Would like to know your thoughts on 3d printed saddles, the Specialized or the new Fizik.

[@b-bikesinger]

Which one would You recommend for person with anterior pelvic tilt/ 12.6mm sit bone distance? Smp suggests the VT30c ( gel)

[@markrees6792]

Currently on the smp plus which looks hideous. Going by sit bone width this saddle it way too wide and way too padded for me but it's quite the opposite. First time Ive found a saddle where I'm in comfort even after hours. Try before you buy!

[@KyrosHouseCycling]

Im a 79 kg rider with a wide pelvis but only a 105 mm sit bone width, do you think the Blaster is my best bet? Looking on the SMP website, the other saddles sit bone width range starts at 116 mm the blaster starts at 90 mm...

[@amilmotitalib348]

If you really want true comfortable saddle without pressure on perineum go with infinity or any leather saddle and you have to customized the carved out.

[@JoeW71]

Neil, first off, thanks for all of your great videos. I became a subscriber shortly after finding you on KZbin. Now for the pesky questions. My pelvis isn't symmetrical, making me not square on the saddle. Would the SMP potentially help or would going with your previous favorite, SQ Labs be a better direction? I'm about 70kg and 71 yrs. old. Thanks much.

[@Chris-ho4ki]

I just rode my first ride on the SMP Lite 209. All I can say is Holy. Sh*t!!! Hands down the BEST saddle I have ever ridden. At first I wasn’t so sure. I had to tinker a little with the tilt and dropped the nose like suggested and when I hit the sweet spot it was gold. I thought my seat was pretty good before (Berk Lupina) but thought I’d give this a shot to see what all the fuss was about. Now I know. I might try the drakon for every day. The 209 is pretty heavily padded for me but would be my choice for a century + ride for sure

[@custommadeeverything]

SMP is the first saddle I sat on that actually felt like something was under me and supporting me. I’ll never go back to a traditional shaped saddle.

[@robt8042]

Great review Neill, I've been on SMP for over a decade, Dynamic is my current one, love it, before that was Forma, same as Dynamic but no padding.

[@dxb526]

I like to (counter) lean in corners, would this be a no-go for an SMP?

[@jeroenkok701]

Hi Neil, love your videos. Question, I suffer lowerback pain (after an hour) during MTB XC riding, and look for a saddle that helps me to correct my posterior tilted pelvis. Currently riding SQL Active, which helps by being a bit flexible but doesn`t support me in maintaining a correct pelvis position. What SMP saddle would you recommend? (I weigh 87 kg, 1.89m) thanks mate!

[@invisiblescout6335]

I have a selle italia boost slr and when I'm sitting normally it's good, but when it roll my pelvis forward in a pseudo-aero position I get a ton of perineal pressure and it sucks. I think I should get a tt style saddle but no idea which

[@roadcyclingacademy]

An SQ Labs 612 Active is my pick of the bunch for unloading the perineum, but an SMP (if you choose the right one) can be pretty close! - N

[@rosst8300]

What can you say about VT20/30 models? They have different geometry

[@petersevcik7159]

I was thinking the same thing

[@roadcyclingacademy]

If you like a Superflow, you'll like these (they are super similar). I don't use them a lot, but only because the rider might as well get a Superflow for cheaper - N

[@MrBennyrick77]

I tried the SMP Selle "Extra" Seat, which is for new bike riders and has more padding. However I felt like I was sitting on two metal bars the entire time, I did not even feel any cushioning, because my butt seemed to touch only the gap part. so much pain, any ideas as to what I can do?. I'm looking at buying a different seat.

[@richardcarr6493]

l found my SMP felt best slightly tilted down which allowed more comfort when grabbing the drops . my previous saddle was painful diamond flat shape with no relief channel WAY OUCH much better now !!

[@ankurd2889]

i like this guy...great insights...