Why The Suzuki GT750 Was Doomed To Fail

[@spitescorner]

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[@Lurch-Bot]

It isn't an explosion that happens in the cylinder, rather deflagration. A detonation would blow your motor apart. This channel has way too many subs to not get that right. Additionally, you should run synthetic two stroke oil in these and all two stroke motors in 2024. Better longevity, more power, virtually no smoke and virtually eliminates any risk of seizure.

[@punchbuggyyellow7097]

I really miss 2 strokes. My second ever bike was an '83 RG250 & Suzuki had come a long way in building 2 stroke bikes by then. The power band was intoxicating & I was practically uncatchable on tight twisty roads. It was awesome, until the oil pump let go & the motor seized. I feel sorry for new riders who can no longer experience the feeling of riding a 2 stroke crotch rocket.

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

My friend had a tuned Kawasaki KR1 S in the late 80's. That was pretty much a direct competitor to the later RGV 250. To this day, I still remember it as one of the fastest bikes that I've ever ridden. Yes, obviously I've ridden bikes with far more power and with higher claimed top speeds, but that "little" 250 weighed absolutely nothing, had brilliant brakes and suspension and when the tacho hit 7k it was like being shot out of a cannon. You couldn't change gears fast enough. I'm with you. I feel sorry for riders that will never get to experience that feeling.

[@Lurch-Bot]

I'm planning to build a custom 2 stroke cafe racer or scrambler with a Rotax 503 aero engine. No emissions testing in my state on bikes. I have a Rotax 583 in my experimental aircraft (basically a glorified kite) and it is a rocket ship. Can hit over 1400fpm climb rate in ideal conditions .

[@tauncfester3022]

The Suzuki 2 strokes of this era were more about usable torque curves instead of screaming narrow power bands that are otherwise useless as a road touring bike engine.

[@davidmack4185]

Thank Nixon's EPA for your lack of choices. The GOP party of Freedom, always blaming the Dems for Nixon's crooked orgs and unearned powers to remove products on a whim(anti-free trade). Same with the old great Lawn Boy 2 cycle mowers, outboard boat engines. All Nixon's malfeasance. South Americans can get great 175cc two stroke street bikes new from Japan-- very efficient and fast too.

[@peterhallbus1114]

I still have my Yamaha RD350 in the garage, will be back on the roads next summer

[@videotosse]

Had one of these in the late 80's. Modified it a bit: Cast aluminum wheels, fibre glass fenders and seat, Dunstall fairing, tank and seat, 3 into3 exhaust, ditched the starter motor to lighten it. No mirrors, no indicators. Braided brake hoses. Drilled rotors, better pads. A European bike mag had a complete engine tuning manual for this engine. I did the whole thing. Once done I dyno'ed the beast. 115 horses at the wheel. I've owned a lot of bikes. This is the one I regret most having sold.

[@blueridgebiker6209]

I grew up in the ‘70s. Why no more 2 strokes? EPA.

[@Michael-qo8bs]

Actually consumers voted with their $ for "civilized" four strokes! H1 and h2 kaw triples were ungodly! I still have a suz t500 titan and RD200...I wish Istill had my my yam IT200! I still enjoy my yam ty250 trials bike... Sold my Rz...cause I looked strange on it...6'9 290 will do that!

[@Airpang100]

You can still buy new two-stroke here in Europe, KTM, Husqvarna and Gas-Gas make them....fuel injected

[@ZP1993]

Back when I was a kid here in Europe in the 90s and 2000s it was still common seeing two stroke bikes,usually little 50s, 125s and 250s ridden by teens. I bought a two stroke bike from my childhood,a 1994 Aprilia Red Rose Classic,as my first bike back in 2015,thinking I'll replace it with something bigger in a few years,but 9 years later I still have it. It's a little cruiser for beginner riders,but it's actually quite fun and comfy to ride,and seeing surprised looks when people see a cruiser buzzing around town is quite funny.

[@Lurch-Bot]

I'm American but I spent my teen years in the UK. My introduction to riding was on a Yamaha TZ-125. Wish I could get one in the states for a reasonable price. I also got to ride vintage BSAs, Triumphs and Nortons on occasion. I had a neighbour with an extensive collection who was willing to sell me a mint '74 850 Interstate for 800UKP in '99. My stupid parents wouldn't let me buy it even though it would have been shipped back to the States for free by my dad's employer. A mint, original UK spec '74 Interstate is worth like $25k in the US today. I was more interested in preserving it than riding it and was willing to agree to some very specific conditions with my parents. But my mom was scared of me riding a bike. Didn't stop me from riding, just stopped me from having my dream bike. It was even my favorite colour - yellow.

[@dutchsailor6620]

I used to prepare GT750 engines for a sidecar racing team. You could get about 105 reliable horses out of those engines, but you needed to modify the clutch basket to prevent it from disintegrating on the higher revs. Even modified a cylinder block to accept membranes. so I could add another scavenging port above the intake port. The membranes used were the same as the ones I used for my TZ750. Lots of peak power and still a wide powerband. The GT750 shown here would run so much better if the oil pump was adjusted to spec, especially with the modern clean burning mixing oils.

[@luddite6239]

Gotta love a 70s stroker! A good illustration of the power of a two stroke is the first year of MotoGP in 2002. That was the year when we had the two strokes and new four strokes racing together. To ensure the four strokes were competitive, their capacity was 990cc against the two stroke's 500cc. Despite this, Alex Barros on a two stroke managed to finish fourth in the championship against the likes of Rossi and Biaggi on the new four strokes. In fact, he was only 11 points from Biaggi in second. Two strokes vs four strokes - what a spectacle!

[@johnludmon510]

What they didn’t mention was you often got 20 mpg out of them at cruising speeds which is another reason the big two strokes died out . The Kawasaki H2’s reputation is possibly down to the then tyre technology Dunlop tt100’s and Avon speed masters were about as good as it got but weren’t made for 70hp bikes that made all their power in 1500 revs. I learned to ride on small two strokes they were much more fun than the equivalent four strokes and would rather have a RD or a GT over a CB or a XS .

[@MickH60]

H2's reputation was for piss poor handling due to a combination of a frame that flexed badly, a short wheelbase making it wheel stand quickly, and react quickly, flexible forks and a razor sharp powerband, tires were the same for everyone, other bikes handled well.... Yes i rode them all... Still do...

[@tauncfester3022]

Actually the Water Buffalo could get about 40 mpg if you didn't wick it up all the time. It was a long stroke engine that owed a lot of it's internal porting and undersquare bore/stroke design to the SAAB 750 and 850 automotive 2 strokes and was a comfortable and relaxed touring bike at 60 mph

[@k3y155]

Makes me think about my dad’s 2-stroke KDX 200. That sound (and the smell) is just nostalgic. I love a 2-stroke.

[@flyingfalcon8999]

I wish we still had them.

[@jimp.7286]

I was a young guy during the golden era of the two stroke road bikes. I owned many. The ones I didn't own I still rode because the group I hung with had all the big ones and we traded off. There was one guy who had a water buffalo in the group. He rode it every day reliably. My own favorite was my modded 78 yamaha rd 400, (the silver one),. I also had a 74 earlier. Later, I owned an h1 for a very short time. Didn't care for it but wish I had it now as I could've made some money on it. Blow-up? None blew up. Rode thousands of miles doing cross country rides. Other problems, (electrical or flats), occured. Rode a cafe'ed honda 50 two stroke in 83, ( honda mb5), on an 800 mile round trip out in cali back when the speed limit was 55, (just to say I did it),. Mojave desert and the grapevine on a 50. True story. The honda could do 65 with a couple mods. Road it through desert heat at 11,000 rpm mile after mile. It didn't blow up. Sorry. Blows up is click bate.

[@videotosse]

True! I've had more than 20 two-strokes. From 125 to 750 over the course of 40 years. None blew up. I still own a 300 cc daily rider two stroke. I've put more than 50,000 miles on that one. Rock solid.

[@jimp.7286]

@@videotosse It's true. They're no different than my weed trimmers. Those never blew up either. None. Ever. Or chainsaw. Or weed blower. They just wear out. I have a 1970's mcculloch chainsaw - still running and cutting! They can seize under weird operating parameters,..long decent for light sport aircraft due to lubrication starvation and the prop being forced to turn because of the wind with no throttle,...but that's a weird parameter and simply negated by running some power with fuelmix,.... till landing. Two strokes ROCK! Cheers to your 50,000 miles. 👍👍

[@anthonysherry2628]

We called it the waterbucket, or waterbus, here in New Zealand. The motors did quite well in sidecar speedway here.

[@mikeyerke3920]

Here in the US we called it the water buffalo. Cool to hear what you called them in NZ!

[@firefighter1c57]

Why are 2 stroke motorcycles dead? Because they smoke more than a Kentucky high school drop out named Earl.

[@tauncfester3022]

they needn't be dead you can more easily mount a catalyst and fuel injection on this while keeping it water cooled. it will burn the excess smoke and hydrocarbons in the catalyst.

[@firefighter1c57]

@tauncfester3022 and the catalyst is going to restrict the exhaust, instead of speeding it up, either killing the fuel air intake, or requiring an exhaust valve of some sort. At which point you've completely negated the benefits of two stroke being light weight, and extremely simple, as well as probably a significant drop in horsepower.

[@tauncfester3022]

@@firefighter1c57 No, you are misinformed. A well designed catalyst will not restrict the exhaust any more than a standard baffled muffler. You see I was actually employed in the scooter industry where 2 strokes come with cats in their exhausts, and they run fine with a catalyst, many yard implement 2 stroke engines come with catalysts and run with good power.

[@vanningale495]

I had one for a couple of years, on the freeway about 50-70mph it was so smooth, like an electric motor. Not quick by any means but OK, nice manors, put lots of miles on it (120/day) going to work and back. Solid and brutally reliable. Loved this machine, it still holds a special place in my heart.

[@stephenpublicover8818]

25 years ago i owned a modified Yamaha RD400 "1977" 62HP and a Yamaha RZ 350 "1988"(last year in Canada) Great two-stroke Motorcycles!😀👌👍✌

[@Michael-qo8bs]

Outstanding! In southeast region of WERA racing...the rz would win their class...win the 600 class ...and run top five in the 750 class!!!

[@alannoah2021]

I had one. A '73. Put 44,000 miles on it. Still miss it.

[@wisecampmotorcycles8258]

I had a GT750 in the early 80's. I used it for touring as well as a daily rider. The biggest trip I did was over 6000km's from the bottom of Australia to the top via the east coast, that bike didn't miss a beat. Wish I still had it 😢😊

[@bluehazeboy]

The idea behind the plastic gear is that if the water pump bearing seizes or breaks,the plastic gear is designed to break so you don’t have a massive engine failure

[@spitescorner]

Except when it breaks it stops mixing oil and so the engine breaks.

[@MyMotorcycleBlog]

Got a 1978 GS750, love watching my bike's ancestors. :D

[@GIGABACHI]

There's nothing catastrophic or horrible about The Water Buffalo. You're making a mountain out of Mole Hill. 🙄🤦‍♂️

[@danielklopp7007]

I bought a 1975 GT750 when I was in college. The bike was completely reliable (45,000 miles with nothing but several sets of tires, a final drive chain and sprockets, and several sets of spark plugs (it did have a tendency to foul plugs until I switched to AMACO gasoline - the only unleaded gas back in the day). No need to change oil (just refill the injector tank periodically). I replaced my Suzuki with a 1978 Honda CX500 - the exact opposite in terms of reliability (3 different sets of cam chain & tensioner part numbers - first 2 sets under warranty, the last set on my own nickle... all in the first 24,000 miles). BTW, cam chain tensioners seem to be a mystery to Honda; I had a 1998 SuperHawk that also had cam chain tensioner problems. In any case, thanks for the trip down memory lane!

[@FinflazodeTurroai]

The oil pump was bigger than what you say. It was connected to the gearbox, not by the cranckshaft. If you stopped a a light, and used the clutch lever to leave the first gear engaged, the pump did NOT move... Thus seizing the engine pretty fast. What we did here was to discard the pump, remove the bearing seals, and mix oil in the gast, some 3%. That produces a beautiful cloud of blue smoke, but the bike worked fine.

[@TheBlueDogMan]

I always found those bikes interesting. And yes, they did smoke like a chimney. a guy in my tiny little town of Alvarado had one under his carport forever. I always wanted to stop and ask him if he wanted to sell it. It was really well kept. I drove by one day and it was gone!

[@josephpacchetti5997]

I had one of these, and never had any problems whatsoever, it was one of the smoothest bikes I've ever had, and I've had quite a few, 20+ 👊😎

[@RxPii]

The 90s 150 and 250 class 2 stroke sportbike is definitely peak for me, most powerful 150 2 stroke made 41.1hp while todays 150 4 stroke only makes 18.9(some got to 24hp with mods)

[@oswaldjh]

Got a chance to ride one back when they were new and they handled like your living room sofa. Big difference from my RD 350 of the time. The RD was so easy to start I could start it by 'kicking it" with my right arm as I sat on the bike.

[@starhope9630]

I once came across an old Suzuki GT250X7 for $100...and after purchasing it had a few short rides on it around my parents farm - then eventually sold it about 2 years later for $1,500. Several years later I ended up getting a 2001 Honda NSR150SP (Repsol Edition) and using it for daily transport for a few years...and still have this bike in storage. Both bikes were a bunch of fun...and I still love 2 strokes!😊

[@robwessels6899]

My dad had one of these back in the day. I rode on the back several times:)

[@joellikness2121]

Love these vintage bike pieces, keep them coming!!

[@Yoda8945]

I rode the first Suzuki 750 in my town. It did not have disc brakes. The first ones had a 4 leading shoe front drum similar to a Grimeca. I did get told by a Highway Patrolman "Slow that son of a bitch down!" from his PA system. He didn't stop me at 110 because there really wasn't a speed limit in Montana at that time.

[@infesting]

Harley asked for the tariffs in '83 because of the virago

[@alanrogers9597]

I had a kettle in the old days, 1976, blue metallic paint, looked and rode just lovely. 45k miles including 3 tours around southern France. No complaints but prefer my Bonny

[@scottcunningham1135]

I bought my GT 750 in 1986 and I still have it. It now makes around 90 hp and has 1980 GS 1000 rims and brakes. It is a fantastic old bike. Get one, you wont regret it.

[@Cobra427Veight]

I had a ride on one in the 80s , very smooth , no rattles , water cooling makes it nice and quiet , I liked it , I did own a KX500 in 1990 oh yeah 😀

[@darkknight1340]

The Kawasaki AH2 wasn't exactly smokeless either,on occasion, it was like being chased by some kind of Sci fi iceberg.

[@GaryJohnWalker1]

Never ridden one, but old enough to remember these in the day. And yes, being Brit, it was the kettle. The GT380 and GT550 seemed more realistic but no longer lasting

[@carltontweedle5724]

My first bike was a Suzuki 100 GP, loved that bike two stroke.

[@limyrob1383]

I owned a GT750 in the early 80s. Picked up cheap with a faulty clutch. They were not popular then and the bike looked like new. The engine was a beauty, really smooth, the only bike I've ever had where you actually needed the gear indicator, the vibration didn't change from 2000 to 6000 revs. Handling was odd, it would only hold a line through corners 2 up, something was fundamentally wrong with the weight distribution and suspension. I smiled at your video, the cylinders were not oiling equally. I spent hours trying to get the cylinders to oil equally, it was easy to become obsessive checking the mirror every acceleration. I would take the metering pump apart and lap the pistons with metal polish to get them to slide equally as they tended to stick.

[@cadesmith4278]

My first four motorcycles were 2-strokes. Kawasaki G5 100, F11 250, Yamaha DS7 250 and RD 350, from 1973 to '79. Started riding again in '89 on a KZ1000...currently ride a '20 Z400. Oh how I miss those smokers... However, most everyone I've talked to who has recently ridden or still ride 2 strokes say I'd be sorely disappointed in them after the novelty wore off. Today's motorcycles are so much more refined and reliable. I do wish someone would build a 'clean' fuel injected (affordable) 2-stroke dual sport.

[@MisterOcclusion]

Man, that mechanic sure sold me on never buying an old bike 😂

[@spitescorner]

Elijah's really knowledgeable and has a great sense of humor. But yeah, makes me think twice about owning an old bike.

[@anagennao]

My 20 year old F4i doesn't seem that old. Especially if compared to some HDs that have only been around a decade.

[@MickH60]

@@spitescorner my 40 odd year old Kawasaki's are super reliable and will out last anything new.... bullet proof, I can rebuild any part of them and they're comfortable, like most late 70's, early 80's bikes.... Don't discount them all...

[@flitsies]

I had the GT750 it was a nice bike to ride, but it used to smoke badly. I also had the GT380 both bikes did roughly the same speed indicated on the speedo. The 380 was a nicer bike overal I think, it sounded awsome and drove nice.

[@pcthayer]

I liked my 2 stroke RD400 until it turned into Stephen King's "Christine" and tried to kill me by going full throttle and not shutting down even after turning the ignition off.

[@spitescorner]

Yeah, it dieseled on you. I've heard about that happening sometimes.

[@vmontijo]

Good video guys! The one smoking pipe says that the crank seal is leaking - sucking oil from the transmission and blowing it out the pipe... I just rebuilt the crank in my 1972 T350 and sadly the right side smokes like chimney... bummer. You can change the right and left end crank seals without splitting the cases... only the right is bathed in transmission oil, so I am going to swap that one and hope for the best! Thanks for posing!

[@ma6netho]

My first big MC was a GT550 (air cooled 3 cyl two stroke) Was great fun until the pistons went boom in thousand parts when i accellerated , because failing oilpump. I bought a spare bike and used its engine, and then sold it. I think the new owner also soon got the engine oil pump failure, so mixing the two stroke oil in the petrol manually was the safe option.

[@juanpablogonzalezs.v.8319]

I road one of those! My pastor has one. One word I have to describe what it felt like "thick". It's cool bike cool history.

[@plaidigloo]

Appreciate the use of Letterkenny. 😂

[@johnflavin1602]

Back in 1991 my first bike was a brand new Yamaha RXS100. Can still remember the day I collected it from the dealer.

[@davidhenningsen2851]

I rode a Suzuki by 750 for a couple years in the early 70s Remember it was wide but fun to ride back then

[@mikehurley5052]

Had a 76 GT750A and a 76 CB 750 K6, awesome bikes but so different.

[@chrisreed3929]

I rode a 'kettle' many years ago. It was my mates, I had a gpz750. Though my bike was more powerful, the kettle felt faster because of its handling trying to kill you at anything over 85mph. Speed wobble from hell.

[@scottwalker8949]

The only foreign bikes that were subject to the tariffs were 750cc and above . A lot of bikes in the mid 80s went from 750 cc to 700 cc

[@mattdwyer7576]

A friend had one back in the day. He had to ride back of the pack between the smoke and an oil freckle bath if you followed him! Plus hew was riding with a group of Honda owners.

[@GasMaskPaintballer]

A 74' GT750 was the first bike I bolted a plate to, blew the motor trying to do 130 mph (It let go at 126 if you're wondering). Miss that bike.

[@Bajker4ever]

You should try some more sophisticated two-strokes from '80s like Suzuki RG 500 or Yamaha RD 350 or 500 it will blow your mind i promise.

[@Tampa_tom]

12:05 😂” well your like 85, I wouldn’t ride it “

[@mmotorcycles9497]

I’ll take the widow maker kawi any day

[@joeMW284]

Your explanation of tariffs is a public service at this juncture.

[@georgegolitzin6196]

Had a gt550 back in 81. Fond memories, but it couldn’t break 95 mph.

[@aussiebloke609]

4:10 That smoke is a sign of a poorly set up oiling system - or possibly even the use of premix in addition to the factory setup. Back in the day, I knew many blokes with water bottles, and none of them smoked. Come to think of it, my GT250 didn't smoke either - even though everyone today tells me there's no way to stop spraying for mosquitoes with one. I suspect the problem with people who aren't as familiar with the tech, along with limited experience solely with old, worn engines and a lack of good NOS parts and the knowledge to fix them to how they used to be.

[@dav8388]

My first bike in 2009 was a 1969 Suzuki T500 I kinda miss that bike.

[@alexwilsonpottery3733]

Apparently the RG Suzukis didn’t make it to the US? Also; there were water-cooled two-strokes well before Suzuki and Yamaha started making them.

[@Jim-nm1en]

In the UK there was the Scott Squirrel introduced in the mid 1920s. It had a 600cc twin 2 stroke water cooled engine which relied on the fact that hot water entered the top of the radiator and sank to the bottom as it cooled. There was no water pump in the system. Last time I saw one of these bikes on the road was in 2010 and the old guy riding it looked old enough to have owned it from new.

[@alexwilsonpottery3733]

@@Jim-nm1en - yes, and Laverda used the same system in their single cylinder two-stroke in the 70s/80s. I lusted after a Silk, but couldn’t afford one.

[@marklapirow5473]

The 1st one had a magnificent double sided 4 leadimg shoe front brake, not discs.

[@BUGBYTE_]

Cool bike. Never even knew anything about it. Plastic drive gear though.🤣 I really think it looks nice. I checked Limeys website and they have a lot of cool custom bikes posted that they have done. Great find Spite.🍻

[@pcthayer]

Strange bikes from Suzuki? What's next the RE5 Rotary?? 🙂

[@manybikes]

Fun bikes! I still have a 1974 TY250 that makes me grin every time I fire it up.

[@beatersnbeers2145]

Once I get the money I’m going to build an 850cc air cooled triple race bike with Yamaha snowmobile cylinders. Mathematically it should be able to produce well over 150hp and weigh about 50 lbs less than a modern 600 rocket. Just something I’d ride a few times a year and do track days on

[@tohrmentrixabyss1713]

But Spite... What about the levers! I'm waiting very impatiently on some sweet lever advice!

[@davidmack4185]

Great bike but may need rings to preserve compression after 40k miles. I almost bought one 30 years ago but realized the compression was shot, very weak power but not really smoking either. When it was new... probably great.

[@robertwilkinson2232]

I loved my kettle should never have sold it

[@stanleylathers4769]

wackily enough,i can press these cranks

[@entropy5125]

2 strokes are king. There are cheaper....they have less moving parts...they are so simple a child could rebuild a top end

[@rotorhead5000]

Always love me some oddball old Japanese bikes. Especially when at a glance it's just another ujm, but looking closer it's really something special, even if in a lot of ways it is quite ordinary.

[@mikeskidmore6754]

I saw a Water Buffalo on the road in 2022 in Michigan .

[@stevetaylor9265]

I love 2stroke motorcycles and really miss them

[@user-Terracer]

The ole three cylinder two stroke Zook was faster than the tire technology of the day, otherwise it would have quite the racing pedigree. I would love to own a water buffalo..or even a Sebring or a Titan. They just aren't anymore...

[@jordanjoestar8839]

PLEASE track down an 86 GSXR750 and do a review! Weve gotta see your thoughts on the father of all super bikes!

[@tobymcnicol922]

nice vid. the Limey Bikes guy is great!

[@thefathippy]

2 strokes were such horrible stinky, smoking machines. They also sounded terrible compared to 4 strokes of the era. Think Triumphs, bevel Ducatis, CB750s, even Harleys. Otoh, they were light and powerful. That said, I knew blokes who owned bottles and other strokers back when they were new. None smoked as terribly as the one in this video. Bottles were supposed to be a sophisticated 2 stroke, comparable to the best 4 strokes, not a 20 pack a day habit.

[@DJPTEXAS]

EPA killed the 2 Stroke...

[@maxwelledison5366]

It needs the Vetter Windjammer fairing, bags and trunk. For a naked bike though I really prefer the Suzuki GT 550 air-cooled triple. The 550 was much lighter and reved out nice.

[@dutchsailor6620]

Handling was sketchy enough without all that plastic. Adding all that junk didn't make it better.

[@jimmy_dirtbike]

Homie… you’d pee your pants if you hit the power band on a CR85.

[@tauncfester3022]

You have to be kidding, this is among the simplest multi cylindered bikes in the 750 range of it's time, It's a two stroke, lest I bother to explain to you what moving parts it lacks compared to the 750 Honda 4 stroke 4 cylinder or any of the other 4 cylindered big bikes.

[@wolfpackpete6408]

Suzuki should remake the GT 750 ! They pretty much have the perfect platform already... remove 1 cylinder from their K5 gixxer 1000cc engine, and Bob's your uncle. They could even do the same for a slightly smaller version with the GSXR750 engine. If Suzuki remade the GT750 to modern engineering standards, I believe it would be their best selling model very quickly

[@GeorgeRowland-r5z]

I owned 2 of these. Still one of my favorite bikes of all time. Why are you saying they were expensive? They were not. I bought my 1975 for 1200.00. Way cheaper than a Honda or Clunkasaki. They were smooth (except at low speed). The sub 25 mph buck was notorious.

[@MrKingsley]

2 Strokes, half the strokes, twice the power, and four times the tinnitus! 🤣

[@nicnak4475]

I had a rough Kettle in 1976, paid £300 for it, surprised this one has K70 Dunlop tyres on it 🤔

[@mbarr1029]

Oh Hell Yah, A Suzy 750 water buffalo. Hell of a bike. Fastest bike ever drove in the 80s. Loved My KH 400 too. It was used so not very great but reasonable.

[@brianpdaniels]

I had two Suzuki Gt380s. Great bikes with great power. They were as fast as a 650-700 four stroke. The smell was awesome.

[@martymcfly1776]

I rode one back in the day. It was a nice bike, but it was tame compared to the Kawasaki 350 triple.

[@dutchsailor6620]

mwah, I beg to differ. A GT750 would run about the same speed and acceleration as a Kawa Z650 and a GT380 didn't even come close to a GT750.

[@brianpdaniels]

@@dutchsailor6620 It's fast enough to get you to the afterlife quickly.

[@stevencote7951]

I had a new 75 GT380 my friend had a 76 750 Triumph and he was way faster. But I was smoother , parts didn't fall off,bulbs didn't break.....I was faster then the CB350's though...

[@dutchsailor6620]

@@brianpdaniels So is a skateboard, so what's your point?

[@peterturnham5134]

I have ridden Mostly Big 4 strokes Since The 1970s Nortons, Ducati and V4 Hondas however I adore 2 strokes they are so exciting to ride, I have a Yamaha RD350LC in the garage and still regret selling my Suzuki PE175 Enduro. You offer me an H2 Kawasaki with original Pipes at a reasonable price I will buy it. It only needs a change of rear shocks, shims on the front springs, oil tuning the forks and it is not a widow maker. Now back to your Suzuki 750. An interesting Fun Bike. For me in the past it was too Porky. Now the first models had twin sided drum breaks. I acttually have a Suzuki 750 front break lever on my Norton 750 café racer which has custom built twin sided front brakes. As I said the GT750 was Porky but we called it "The Fat girl that can pick up her skirts and fly". What would really tempt me? In France Moto Martin made a lightweight race chassis, you dropped in a GT750 motor, put on expansion chambers a bit of porting, skimming and you had "The Queen Bitch" I have not seen one in years. Probably all raced crashed and seized. However, love your bike, ENJOY

[@dutchsailor6620]

Don't forget the swing arm bushings. The original H2 and Z900 bearings were made from some kind of impregnated cardboard. If I remember well they even had the same partnumber.

[@oldbag3043]

Wear and tear is the only reason I can see why we went to four stroke

[@martymcfly1776]

Two strokes wore out quickly, and they used a lot of gas. They also were really bad for emissions. They were fun in the day though.

[@philipfreeman72]

I had a California 650 BMW 1982 it had an air compressor piped to the exhost . at night the exhost pipes were red . Companies need to STOP building bikes over 600 cc NOW .

[@danieldoyle253]

S&M in motorcycle maintenance form

[@martymcfly1776]

That GT750 was a dog. It couldn't get out of it's own way - and it was ugly as heck. It never was a big seller. I personally would have zero interest in owning one of those things. The hot bikes back in '70's were the Yamaha RD350 and RD400, and the 350cc and 400cc Kawasaki triples. In the '60's Suzuki had a popular bike with the X6 250 cc Hustler - a two stroke twin, but it was outclassed in the early '70's by the R5 Yamaha. I loved my R5. The RD's were better bikes, but the smaller Kawasaki triples may have been the best of the bunch.

[@ronoldcross8189]

AQMD ended street 2 strokes. Plus 4 strokes helped take 'em with mpg and overall performance.

[@wheelie63]

turn the rider microphone down ............turn the sweet triple two stroke microphone UP. !

[@dronepilot260rc]

Looks like a fun bike

[@ninerand]

My 2005 Kawasaki zx150 2 stroke had the 2 stroke oil pump and the pipe went, engine was toasted

[@JohnStruemph]

Water Buffalo!

[@hvymax]

Gotta love a Water Buffalo!!!

[@rickderoehn2630]

2 words, government regulations

[@Lurch-Bot]

I owned 4 malaise era GM cars back in the day. All with drums in the rear. Never did a single rear brake job on any of them in the 6 year span I owned them. My first FWD car was an '89 Cutlass Supreme and had rear discs. Got it at like 60k and had to do brakes, struts and tires all around. Having drum brakes on the Navi is actually a selling point. Cheap, low maintenance city bike anyone can ride.