Why the Treaty Principles Bill is a Recipe for DISASTER

In this video, we dive deep into the complexities surrounding the Treaty Principles Bill and why many believe it is fundamentally flawed. We explore key arguments that highlight its shortcomings and discuss the implications for our society.
Join us as we unpack various perspectives on this contentious issue, shedding light on what makes the bill "cooked" in the eyes of critics. This analysis aims to provide clarity and provoke thought about its potential impact on future legislation.
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[@lkuc06]

Sup Twano, this is pretty important to my people just want to thank you for highlighting this talk, our plight needs to be known by the world and you have played a role in doing that, bless brother.

[@user-wz4hr5xu4k]

awesome, not Maori, but i'm Polynesian who lives in NZ and support these facts !

[@Spaceseeker]

This is so important.Thank you. I am a Nzer, But not a Maori

[@HALOSOLUTIONS-cu6wh]

Absolutely beautifully explained for ALL kiwi’s to understand this as the truth!

[@Bob-h3n]

Dude, its great to see you trying to understand the whole situation. One thing I want you to think about though, That is Aotearoa is not a multicultural county, it's bi cultural. There are two peoples that signed the treaty. tangata whenua and the crown, the crown allowed Pākehā of all types to come to live here. But the founding document is between the people of the treaty. New Zealand Aotearoa is not a multi cultural society. Many cultures are here, nau mai haere mai, but there are only two peoples of the treaty. Bi cultural by definition. I sat and listened to this point being debated by Emeritus Professor Ranginui Whakatōhea (Walker). There is no question about this point.

[@LauraTeKiwiBirb]

I would argue that Tauiwi fall under the crown (being non-maori New Zealand citizens). So although te Triti is a contract that was originally signed between Rangatira and the Crown (two governing bodies), New Zealand is home to people of multiple ethnic and cultural backgrounds. We can all get along. Co-governance is the compromise and David Seymour is trying to muck that up for everyone.

[@Bob-h3n]

@LauraTeAhoWhite Exactly. Te Triti isn't between Māori and the English people, it's a treaty with the crown. There was no stipulation that only English come or stay. And of course we want everyone to be welcome and protected by the crown. My grandkids are part Pakistani and gorgeous.

[@MrPhantompants]

the notion that only white people colonized new zealand is dangerous,uneducated and honestly quite racist

[@martinharris5017]

" Pākehā of all types". What types of "Pakeha" are there? Can you define Pakeha for us? I thought a Pakeha was a Māori term for a European or Caucasian person?

[@logicalanswer3529]

The only thing you proved with your comment is that you are a racist. Well done.

[@alicetango6725]

the treaty gives us sovereignty it dont take it away .... the bigger issue is that the crown used loop holes to take land away from rightful owners...... for example if you did not sign the treaty u where in danger of being branded a rebel..... under the treaty the crown choose who are rebels and if u are deemed a rebel all you assets get taken by the crown. there are other mishaps with the treaty but the one I mentioned is the biggest one. also a big issue is the Maori did not really understand what a king/queen is..... they saw the crown as like a governor. They compared the crown to pontius pilot from the bible. another thing is some tribes had other tribes as natural enemy's and they simply signed the treaty just because they knew their opposition tribes did not want it. this is not black and white its much more complex than anyone thinks

[@BlueBlue-j4w]

@@alicetango6725 "All you're assets taken", is a truckload of sugar coating, compared to what the police did to the children, that survived those attacks.

[@JamesSmith-qw2vs]

@@alicetango6725 The rebels were those who carried on the practice of cannablism. The last big feast of human flesh was in 1860, following a major inter tribal battle. Do some research Maori did understand what the document they put their mark on meant. that was ratified in 1844, in a meeting with many Maori chiefs. Do your homework.

[@xilikeyourdad13xseig18]

⁠@@JamesSmith-qw2vswhat are you trying to say lol they used the term Rebels so it’s would be easier and not sound so harsh for taking your land! Like peasant…no one would care aswell…unless your names on the treaty and your of some status then that’s a different story

[@tramekaphereora7]

I have the historical records of how the crown stole Aotearoa from Maori. The Pakeha were good enough to keep perfect record of how. Thank you for caring enough to understanding our history and welcome to Aotearoa Brother

[@logicalanswer3529]

Were Māori stealing land from each other before Europeans arrived?

[@LisaPoihegatama]

​@logicalanswer3529 . We probably have no written record of it but I will also deflect. Hawaii did cede sovereignty and President Clinton Apologized for it and went back to business as usual. Australia did the same thing. It's seems to be a common theme among European rulers to take land.

[@LisaPoihegatama]

Oops Hawaii did not cede sovereignty*

[@logicalanswer3529]

@@LisaPoihegatama Were Māori stealing land from each other before Europeans arrived?

[@zealantis]

Only about 50 signed english version, and they believed it conveyed the same law as the maori version. Also, if we were ceeding our soverignty, why would all the tribes start fighting the crown? The little cutting down of the flagpole happened after the treaty was signed because Hone Heke thought it took away maori rights

[@KarloHiriwa-oz9id]

Kia Ora for sharing our culture

[@markrapana6732]

Thank you, brother. For bringing these explanations to a wider audience. Hopefully, people around the world will get a better understanding of the issues. Appreciate you, Twano2am.❤

[@ewshowgamez6617]

Someone find my boy Twano a good Māori girl 🔥

[@rawiniataki5620]

Good maori girl u reckon 😂😂 yeah, good luck with that

[@jamiecole2096]

The Bill was dead on arrival. With the National Party and NZ First not backing it, it was 100% worthless. It could never advance. Never pass. All this fuss over a Bill that could never proceed. It would have died in obscurity if the Maori Party had just laughed and ignored it. To put it bluntly, this is a storm in a teacup.

[@taahucorbett2306]

All you guys are awesome Keep the faith

[@takeova9201]

We know the exact location europeans settled...and the way they forced thier way into the interior complaining to brittain they wanted more land

[@takeova9201]

The English version isn't as binding as the maori version,because the major language among the natives wasn't English.So those who knew little to no English spoke only in maori because thats'whaf they understood. The English version was to make all English believe it wasn't an equal agreement, to have control over maori. It was a lie in English. Traitorous colonials bent on taking everything from maori especially the land

[@martinharris5017]

Actually The Crown took some convincing to accept NZ as an official part of the Commonwealth. HM Queen Victoria had at that time stated that there was no desire or ambition to expand her empire further. The situation in NZ was getting messy and dangerous. Take for instance the arrival of French baron De Thierry, proclaiming himself "King of New Zealand". The British intent was to protect this land from such predations mainly for the safety of British settlers, but hopefully in an amicable arrangement with the Tanga te Whenua. The Treaty was a world-first. A radical departure from the old way of conquest and capture. It was less than perfect and translation involving both language and cultural differences were absolutely bound to result in dispute. I argue that the intent was a noble one even though it didn't always go that way for either party. It is wrong to take the stance that one party was treacherous and full of deception. All races of people have instances of treachery and deception in their history but this does not define them. One can be thankful I think that Britian had abolished slavery before the first arrivals on these shores, wouldn't you agree?

[@kylebeckett825]

Throwing up a big mana wave your way cuzzy 👋🏾 chur chur

[@kurahoani2874]

Sovereignty was given to us by the united nations not egland. There was only 1 version of the treaty, but as the years and centuries go on England have changed it

[@fu8713]

kurahoani2874 U N didn’t exist then dopey it was the league nation’s

[@LeniTipene]

very well said,simple,,thank you so much

[@tribalwar9971]

Nice work brother Safe travels one love Maybe catch up in quake city

[@SharonMcauley-h1w]

Great points

[@petepender5539]

Corrupt Corporation! Seymour needs a history lesson! Mauri ora 🤪

[@Iron-Lion16]

Far out Twano.. Thankyou bro.. this means alot to us as Maori

[@mrpablo818]

Absolute goat twan💯 As a busy father never had time to look it up and understand it all you did it for me in under 15mins ya legend💪🏾 🇾🇪Tihei Mauriiiii Oraaaaaa🇾🇪

[@takeova9201]

No mention of the deceit of theft of coal without authority by local europeans who we're sending it to brittain.the maori leader was furious...that started a war and that eventually lead to a kingship of another tribe 😆 there's one thing they never knew tribes merged through marriage before the war went down so the original leader kept his whanau alive regardless of who is king

[@BlueBlue-j4w]

Ko te tuatahi Ko nga Rangatira o te wakaminenga me nga Rangatira katoa hoki ki hai i uri ki taua wakaminenga ka tuku rawa atu ki te Kuini o Ingarani ake tonu atu - te Kawanatanga katoa o o ratou wenua. Ko te tuarua Ko te Kuini o Ingarani ka wakarite ka wakaae ki nga Rangatira ki nga hapu - ki nga tangata katoa o Nu Tirani te tino rangatiratanga o o ratou wenua o ratou kainga me o ratou taonga katoa. Otiia ko nga Rangatira o te wakaminenga me nga Rangatira katoa atu ka tuku ki te Kuini te hokonga o era wahi wenua e pai ai te tangata nona te wenua - ki te ritenga o te utu e wakaritea ai e ratou ko te kai hoko e meatia nei e te Kuini hei kai hoko mona. Ko te tuatoru Hei wakaritenga mai hoki tenei mo te wakaaetanga ki te Kawanatanga o te Kuini - Ka tiakina e te Kuini o Ingarani nga tangata maori katoa o Nu Tirani ka tukua ki a ratou nga tikanga katoa rite tahi ki ana mea ki nga tangata o Ingarani. [signed] W. Hobson Consul & Lieutenant Governor

[@nadineaugust3594]

I pray one day Maori language is made compulsory in Primary schools onwards & teach the kids NZ history, the Maori land wars etc, history related to Aotearoa New Zealand. Please 🙏

[@tracymichaelsen493]

instant sub. ❤

[@user-Brogz]

Yessss! The document that proceeds the treaty! Why does everyone forget this exists 😅

[@ziajones3810]

Shot bro, got a new subscriber 👍

[@LisaPoihegatama]

The nz gov has no authority over Maori only over non Maori New Zealand. If mon Maori have chikdren with Maori only the children can stake a claim ss a Maori.

[@Kiwilee275]

Thanx for sharing this T ❤ A need to know for all kiwis 👍🏾

[@boxerturner7472]

Awesome this video should be taught at school direct and easy to understand for me a maori can not read properly or no patience😊

[@fu8713]

Doesn’t matter what little weasel boy says he’s a bum

[@francoisnaufahu30]

What

[@fu8713]

Are you deaf boy

[@hirokawiti4932]

Bro is mad​@@francoisnaufahu30

[@sonnyawa6413]

You are a delusional bum

[@takeova9201]

We know now because the American Indians had the same treatment...prove me wrong go on

[@rayrichbrown]

Thanks TM for sharing this out, giving more awareness. Aotearoa needs a solution 🙏🏽

[@medit8iv_native970]

Appreciate you using your platform to share this, mauri ora kuzzy

[@ewshowgamez6617]

Twano is him

[@viviennemcgreal7039]

Thankyou for doing your homework and sharing this important topic. Ngā mihi nui

[@takeova9201]

The lies will end and maori will be put as in equal status...we are connected to the land no matter who owns it...and the no more fighting agreement only stands if the agreement isn't broken.We maori disagree with brittain as the controller of new zealand. They had allies from other countries fighting maori too soo.... it's a no. Yeah that's right they needed help to fight and together they killed 90 percent of the maori population ..almost exterminated!!! Only 10,000 remained out of 300,00

[@MrsWishieWashy]

Please tell me you feel the same about the Moriori?

[@sweetpapad4674]

I share your concern and also agree on how bad this bill is, but there’s some mistakes in here as someone who follows history and if left unattended this could be used by bad actors to turn this video against its cause,so please allow me explain so this errors aren’t used again cause they could be used negatively. First and this isn’t a history thing but I don’t know you keep referring to the crown when talking about the bill or any modern day issue, the crown is Britain the monarchy and the government of it, they are not involved in this current issue of the bill, if you keep saying the crown while talking about the bill you make yourself look uninformed and not a trustworthy information source. Ok real history now, I’m sorry on this one I truly am, but while your translation of Tino is correct it’s also isn’t. There are multiple translations and there lies the issue and pretending there is only one is bad faith ( before anyone says well she is if her people she would surly know, first I want to put that the translations im getting come form the aka maori dictionary and multiple professors who are Māori speaking about there history). This disparity of the translations is the problem because especially if we actually look at the history of the treaty it becomes pretty obvious the major issue that caused this well issue (side note but also Kaw was not first used in 1840 it first came up in 1835 in the deceleration of independence, so the cheifs did have a little more knowledge of it then let on). The true biggest cause of the two treaty issue that is not mentioned here is time. The governor making the treaty and his team wrote negotiated rewrote and signed it all in THREE days, and unlike mention gear the crown or it’s lawyers were not involved which actually might have been a problem, a similar treaty had or was being done in Canada and the British government and the tribes spent months negotiating a deal that made a single treaty that covered all the tribes, when it was done it was celebrated by most chief for its fair and detailed works and considerations for them ( really makes you wonder how Canada fumbled so hard after such a good first step). None of this long work was done in this treaty, which might have been fine if one side at least understood the other but as we can see from the dairies of these men even the men working on the treaty were unsure if it would work because in the negotiations they were finding that Maroi understanding to words they both used wasn’t quite matching up to how they used it or how it had been used by others, remember one translation of the word of Tino is literally just as highest chief or kingdom, which makes sense both sides had poor understanding of the others language the maoris only had the bible to really go off of and the British were jumberling things together and hope it sticks this rapid treaty with unclear definitions is the real issue over and plot of using a fake word and the ignoring of the true one, and if we fight from this stance, from this was a mistake from both side cause by rushing this which means we should take this new conversation slowly and if we wish to touch up the treaty again let’s take and this time do it slowly and clearly so this doesn’t happen again, instead of blaming one side and calling a evil plot then we get more people open to our side and have more people vote for us in the referendum.

[@moziboy75]

Thank you for posting this bro

[@kinasandwich7624]

Nice job brother

[@takeova9201]

1835? What about the maori leader that got double crossed and was eliminated in kaikoura? We know our tribal history going back centuries...you cannot hide everything 😂 we pass on knowledge to the younger ones so they know what happened to whanau going back to when bad things happened to them. Don't mess with what's already been written and signed

[@BlueBlue-j4w]

The first The Princes of the Commonwealth and all the Sovereigns who are heirs to that Commonwealth surrender to the Queen of England for ever - the whole Government of their lands. The second The Queen of England agrees to grant to the Princes and Clans - to all the people of New Zealand the sovereignty of their lands, their homes and all their property. But the Lords of the Wakaminenga and all the other Lords will offer to the Queen the sale of those lands that the owner of the land is satisfied with - according to the price that they and the buyer are willing to pay. by the Queen as a vendor. The third This is also a sign of acceptance of the Government of the Queen - The Queen of England will protect all citizens of New Zealand and grant them all the same conditions as those of England. [signed] W. Hobson Consul & Lieutenant Governor Source, Te Tiriti o Waitangi Translation, Google translate Final, Only copy signed by W. Hobson and the Chiefs of New Zealand.

[@BlueBlue-j4w]

Here's the receipt

[@fu8713]

BlueBlue Shuddup

[@BlueBlue-j4w]

@@fu8713 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@CJN5787]

Maori already had sovereignty b4 the British arrived.

[@kelz5339]

Thank you for your korero

[@Meadowtear]

I think I have fallen in love with you 😍

[@Froggability]

Most countries, indigenous v settlers have no treaty whatsoever; if it takes more than 5 min to explain, it likely cause more problem than it solves

[@BlueBlue-j4w]

10:00 Good to see an Asian view👍

[@Bob-h3n]

That is crazy dude Aotearoa is not a multicultural county, it's bi cultural. There are two peoples that signed the treaty. tangata whenua and the crown, the crown allowed Pākehā of all types to come to live here. But the founding document is between the people of the treaty. New Zealand Aotearoa is not a multi cultural society. Many cultures are here, nau mai haere mai, but there are only two peoples of the treaty. Bi cultural by definition.

[@Bob-h3n]

Think about the people who came before the treaty, there were Americans sealing and whaling, there were french missionaries, dutch traders there were even black slaves with the sealers. These people were still here after the treaty was signed. They didn't become Māori with the signing of the treaty. Bi cultural.

[@BlueBlue-j4w]

@@Bob-h3n obviously

[@momomo3y]

Top man ma Maori 😂❤

[@roaminwitben]

Just some advice brother, don’t get involved in the politics in NZ. You will lose a-lot of potential support and just isn’t worth it

[@tommymarcetta9571]

lmao its all bullshit. gravy train is disappearing lmao

[@LisaPoihegatama]

What gravy train? Do you mean cents in the dollar reparations? 😂😂😂😂

[@tommymarcetta9571]

@@LisaPoihegatama You're too simple to understand the implications of it all lmao

[@BelleRewaNgametuangaro]

Most important Māori acknowledgment to signatory exchanges the mana providing a concept to acceptance when we proclaim, which we are responsible for our identity to be of interaction with those indifference to cultural norms. Tino is i am, basically rangatira a high chief tanga, for many. Our identity of whom was responsible for many. Kawana is to govern tanga the people the two kupu makes kāwanatanga governor general, is the collective responsibility of our rangatira, this explains we have an understanding of a collective of prestige leaders in recognition. Kāwanatanga is the active listener to reason with, the treaty re interpretation has many in the world experiencing expectations of academic and political influence. Many will try, I mean this is going to happen and challenge many to want right and conciseness for new recognition for a cultural change cultural behaviour and it for social justice. If not, it will change legal foundations worldwide.

[@julesc296]

Just a quick logic check 2.10 ish min in... So the issue is babies were taken by the crown, breaching sovereign ownership rights etc, then violence started in homes leading to generations of violence in the home? Am I hearing that correctly? Sounds like the violence was the egg, not the chicken? Shouldn't the unique Maori term spoken of, not be influenced by outside factors/challenges and remain steadfast in principle, not feeding into the crowns tactics (if was the case)? *genuine question from a Kiwi *2nd question, is there an indigenous culture celebrated/treated any better as an example NZ should be looking to? Auz is out. USA is out.. India had a pretty rough time under the crown... Perspective is important, always, no matter what is in question/review. Just my 4 cents

[@julesc296]

Also wasn't there years of recognised Pa wars before white people arrived...? Was nz governed to an equal standard across all tribes? Didn't they wipe each other out from time to time? Didn't they welcome the crown to come in and stop Maori on Maori war/hate/struggle/lack of technological developments that could have avoided Maori killing species to extinction etc if arrived earlier? Just a common sense question - would things be better or worse in 2025, if white people never arrived, and tribal warfare was the hot topic of the day - STILL again, genuine question from a kiwi that thinks we're all equal and should be allowed the same opportunities to try be the best individual they can be.. Not be grouped by color or sex or whatever divisional term is introduced next that should or shouldn't receive special privilege just for that... That's literally trying to fix racism or sexism or whatever by just switching the favour to the former victim... Continuing the problem, just the teams switched uniforms..

[@marcusty6957]

Thank you bro! Mauri ora

[@xdeadyoungx]

This Bill should be passed. Equality for all.

[@runforrestrun1965]

No, NZ needs this bill to proceed. It will eventually suceed even if it take repeated attempts. The treaty currently has actually no principles itself. Establishing nzgovernment that establishes laws is paramount and fundamental to any proper functioning countries democracy. Bext having a law stating all people are to be treated equally is again fundamentally to human existence and rights.

[@BlueBlue-j4w]

@runforrestrun1965 What, have you been living under a rock? The Human Rights Act 1993 is a New Zealand law that protects people from unlawful discrimination and promotes equal opportunities: Prohibits discrimination The act makes it illegal to discriminate on the basis of: Sex, including pregnancy and childbirth Marital status Religious belief Ethical belief Color Race Ethnic or national origin Disability Age Political opinion Employment status Family status Sexual orientation Goals The act aims to: Promote respect for human rights Encourage harmonious relations between people and groups Promote racial equality and cultural diversity Promote equal employment opportunities Promote and protect the rights of people with disabilities

[@BlueBlue-j4w]

New Zealand Bill of Rights Act 1990 Public Act 1990 No 109 Date of assent 28 August 1990 Commencement see section 1(2) Note The Parliamentary Counsel Office has made editorial and format changes to this version using the powers under subpart 2 of Part 3 of the Legislation Act 2019. Note 4 at the end of this version provides a list of the amendments included in it. This Act is administered by the Ministry of Justice. Contents Title 1 Short Title and commencement Part 1 General provisions 2 Rights affirmed 3 Application 4 Other enactments not affected 5 Justified limitations 6 Interpretation consistent with Bill of Rights to be preferred 7 Attorney-General to report to Parliament where Bill appears to be inconsistent with Bill of Rights Required actions after declarations of inconsistency 7A Attorney-General to notify Parliament of declaration of inconsistency 7B Responsible Minister to report to Parliament Government’s response to declaration Part 2 Civil and political rights Life and security of the person 8 Right not to be deprived of life 9 Right not to be subjected to torture or cruel treatment 10 Right not to be subjected to medical or scientific experimentation 11 Right to refuse to undergo medical treatment Democratic and civil rights 12 Electoral rights 13 Freedom of thought, conscience, and religion 14 Freedom of expression 15 Manifestation of religion and belief 16 Freedom of peaceful assembly 17 Freedom of association 18 Freedom of movement Non-discrimination and minority rights 19 Freedom from discrimination 20 Rights of minorities Search, arrest, and detention 21 Unreasonable search and seizure 22 Liberty of the person 23 Rights of persons arrested or detained 24 Rights of persons charged 25 Minimum standards of criminal procedure 26 Retroactive penalties and double jeopardy 27 Right to justice Part 3 Miscellaneous provisions 28 Other rights and freedoms not affected 29 Application to legal persons Notes An Act- (a) to affirm, protect, and promote human rights and fundamental freedoms in New Zealand; and (b) to affirm New Zealand’s commitment to the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights

[@EzPz-98]

you should react to ktsoulja

[@mrmarshall9303]

How old are you bro

[@sammyswish]

Bro stay out of it pick me pandering for views g kefe

[@hirokawiti4932]

Wdym? Any exposure is good exposure. Stfu

[@BlueBlue-j4w]

Ko te tuatahi Ko nga Rangatira o te wakaminenga me nga Rangatira katoa hoki ki hai i uri ki taua wakaminenga ka tuku rawa atu ki te Kuini o Ingarani ake tonu atu - te Kawanatanga katoa o o ratou wenua. Ko te tuarua Ko te Kuini o Ingarani ka wakarite ka wakaae ki nga Rangatira ki nga hapu - ki nga tangata katoa o Nu Tirani te tino rangatiratanga o o ratou wenua o ratou kainga me o ratou taonga katoa. Otiia ko nga Rangatira o te wakaminenga me nga Rangatira katoa atu ka tuku ki te Kuini te hokonga o era wahi wenua e pai ai te tangata nona te wenua - ki te ritenga o te utu e wakaritea ai e ratou ko te kai hoko e meatia nei e te Kuini hei kai hoko mona. Ko te tuatoru Hei wakaritenga mai hoki tenei mo te wakaaetanga ki te Kawanatanga o te Kuini - Ka tiakina e te Kuini o Ingarani nga tangata maori katoa o Nu Tirani ka tukua ki a ratou nga tikanga katoa rite tahi ki ana mea ki nga tangata o Ingarani. [signed] W. Hobson Consul & Lieutenant Governor