Why The True Geordie Is Wrong About Newcastle's Takeover

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HITC Sevens

HITC Sevens

4 жыл бұрын

In a recent video entitled The Newcastle Takeover Debate on his football channel The Kick Off, KZbin personality The True Geordie, Laurence McKenna and the rest of the panel discussed the potential takeover at Newcastle United.
I felt a few of the things that The True Geordie, AKA Brian Davis, said needed addressing, so in this video, HITC Sevens rights the wrongs of that debate and points out where The True Geordie has got it wrong with regards to Newcastle's new owners.

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@emiliosgregoriou8943
@emiliosgregoriou8943 4 жыл бұрын
*This man could narrate how his wife took half his wealth, the kids, and the house, and make it sound like he's discussing the most versatile fullback of 2013.*
@seanmatthews4215
@seanmatthews4215 4 жыл бұрын
Poutanas Malakopoulos That is actually 100% true. I’m actually kinda scared to see what he’d be like angry
@philk1853
@philk1853 3 жыл бұрын
Christ almighty. You're easy pleased
@chico7270
@chico7270 2 жыл бұрын
@@seanmatthews4215 intrested if you know Greek, no reason in particular
@DomenBremecXCVI
@DomenBremecXCVI 4 жыл бұрын
This is amazing. Not regarding disses, but just logically constructed arguments against the statements.
@joshmartlew5486
@joshmartlew5486 4 жыл бұрын
Domen Bremec every quote was taken out of context
@AshParajuli86
@AshParajuli86 4 жыл бұрын
Josh Martlew can you mention a few quotes taken out of context?
@jonnym610
@jonnym610 4 жыл бұрын
@@AshParajuli86 he can't, he's been commenting under everything with the exact same thing
@smartgenes1
@smartgenes1 4 жыл бұрын
The whole thing is fucking shit. 1. Richard Keys: "I wish it were any other club other than Newcastle"
@smartgenes1
@smartgenes1 4 жыл бұрын
2. They have a kids paddling pool as part of the facilities. Name an owner in comparison? Can't? Then fuck off.
@ChampagnePunjabi
@ChampagnePunjabi 4 жыл бұрын
HITC: True Geordie is wrong Me: *Surprised Pikachu Face*
@Usdi1999
@Usdi1999 4 жыл бұрын
This is the most measured, well-constructed takedown I've seen on KZbin in ages.
@joshmartlew5486
@joshmartlew5486 4 жыл бұрын
Ferdinand Gould every quote was taken out context so I take this is the first you’ve seen then
@jairosoto3445
@jairosoto3445 4 жыл бұрын
After idubz
@vaporterra
@vaporterra 4 жыл бұрын
Josh Martlew Replying to multiple comments saying this without examples or reasonings isn’t effective
@Usdi1999
@Usdi1999 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshmartlew5486 care to elaborate? I've been following this closely and I really don't think these arguments were based on misinterpretation. TG showed himself as being unable to argue clearly on this topic and was just churning out nebulous and often nonsensical claims one after the other
@joshmartlew5486
@joshmartlew5486 4 жыл бұрын
Ferdinand Gould TG said “I don’t know too much about them, I’m still learning as it goes” so if you were following it closely you would’ve read that and I wouldn’t be here replying to you because you wouldn’t have typed that.
@dantespina7398
@dantespina7398 4 жыл бұрын
Alfie’s first disstrack, he will become a commentary channel soon. This is brilliant. Two English gems. I’m excited
@yahoojab
@yahoojab 4 жыл бұрын
Soon we'll see all caps video titles and comically shocked Alfie faces in the thumbnails. What a time to be alive.
@christianmayall8034
@christianmayall8034 4 жыл бұрын
Dante Spina or the 5 second subscribe challenge
@glennb6020
@glennb6020 4 жыл бұрын
Dante Spina he’s gonna go after stuntpegg for that picture from last year
@smartgenes1
@smartgenes1 4 жыл бұрын
390 turniphead likes. If you watch BBC does that mean you support paedos? If you buy something with 'made in China' do you support Chinese government pollution policy? The world is full of total sheep who can't think for themselves who think this is 'brilliant'. Total codswallop from start to finish.
@glennb6020
@glennb6020 4 жыл бұрын
Steve McGarry the Saudi crown prince runs the country.... everything goes on him! It’s literally an autocratic county where he can do whatever. the bbc paedophile scandal involved celebrities using their stature to silence criticism. Chinese businesses are under the laws of the Chinese government that have satellite control but not pure direct. Also dumping all Chinese businesses and products into the same type cast Is nonsense. Some actually have decent environment footprints in production. Plus pretending the word sheep has any relevance in any debate. Anyone can play with semantics doesn’t make you clever
@dragonmark9092
@dragonmark9092 4 жыл бұрын
"he is not a Saudi businessman, he IS Saudi Arabia" THANK YOU for making this distinction. I have a major problem with corrupt governments buying clubs since I know they will have an unlimited supply of funds and won't be punished vs. a random businessman who's far more likely to receive punishment
@romanscerbak5167
@romanscerbak5167 4 жыл бұрын
What is really the difference? That is not Europe where business is (almost) completely unaffiliated with governments. Owners of Man City and Chelsea also have their hands in the governments money. Maybe also Wolves but I am not sure about that
@rt7253
@rt7253 4 жыл бұрын
Dragonmark909 bullshit argument mbs does not own nufc he’s the chairman of the fund, he doesn’t and won’t ever have a hand in running the club so no Saudi dont own nufc
@singharpan9859
@singharpan9859 4 жыл бұрын
@@rt7253 lol man is incharge of the fund that owns a club but but he is not running the club. You should listen to yourself.
@smartgenes1
@smartgenes1 4 жыл бұрын
1. UK has a corrupt government at many levels. 2. He is not Saudi Arabia. 3. No such thing as unlimited funds.
@hunterzolomon1303
@hunterzolomon1303 4 жыл бұрын
@@smartgenes1 huh???
@goonerafc4977
@goonerafc4977 4 жыл бұрын
"true geordie is wrong" imagine my shock
@stipe1615
@stipe1615 4 жыл бұрын
man who eats shit is wrong, who knew
@lilbumb2495
@lilbumb2495 4 жыл бұрын
@@stipe1615 I don't think he actually eats the shit
@NeilOB9
@NeilOB9 4 жыл бұрын
Vamos ManUtd hahahahahahhahahashutupnotfunnyhahahaha
@colmmcgee3558
@colmmcgee3558 4 жыл бұрын
@Vamos ManUtd boomer
@PhilK114
@PhilK114 4 жыл бұрын
@@lilbumb2495 Stipe may well do though LOL. True Geordie's one of the fairest and most honest presenter on KZbin football
@philjonessmemes4224
@philjonessmemes4224 4 жыл бұрын
7 players who haven’t scored as many goals as you thought
@MrSeanMDolan
@MrSeanMDolan 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody Cares 1 Drogba 2 Torres
@areebsiddiqui758
@areebsiddiqui758 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrSeanMDolan Owen
@zainjaved18
@zainjaved18 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody Cares zidane
@leecarroll5994
@leecarroll5994 4 жыл бұрын
Pele
@filiplovrinovic8672
@filiplovrinovic8672 4 жыл бұрын
Duggary
@harveyholmes9533
@harveyholmes9533 4 жыл бұрын
You’ve absolutely nailed this honestly
@joshmartlew5486
@joshmartlew5486 4 жыл бұрын
Harvey Holmes every quote was taken out of context
@Tominator0911
@Tominator0911 4 жыл бұрын
Josh Martlew How many times you gonna repeat yourself?
@joshmartlew5486
@joshmartlew5486 4 жыл бұрын
Tom Elliott how many times have I repeated myself in this comment
@harveyholmes9533
@harveyholmes9533 4 жыл бұрын
Frankie NUFC okay it’s only 80% absolutely reprehensible then big difference
@harveyholmes9533
@harveyholmes9533 4 жыл бұрын
Josh Martlew I’ve watched the true Geordie video and no they aren’t taken out of context
@Stephen-ql8ce
@Stephen-ql8ce 4 жыл бұрын
This is a rare sight on KZbin , replying to another youtuber without making stupid statements or points and doing research before your reply
@joshmartlew5486
@joshmartlew5486 4 жыл бұрын
Stephen every quote was taken out of context
@henriquedaumas9934
@henriquedaumas9934 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshmartlew5486 I watched the video, there is no acceptable context.
@joshmartlew5486
@joshmartlew5486 4 жыл бұрын
Henrique Daumas I have also watched the video
@Yeecourse
@Yeecourse 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshmartlew5486 can I have some examples? I watched the debate before this video had even came out and as far as I can see, there was nothing out of context.
@joshmartlew5486
@joshmartlew5486 4 жыл бұрын
BiggieCheeseTheLord HITC talks about Laurence saying other owners do not get scrutinised this much but Laurence then goes on to talk about BeIn sports letter of complaint (BeIn one of the premier leagues most used overseas broadcast of games, also the owner of BeIn owns PSG)
@AlexTommo
@AlexTommo 4 жыл бұрын
I remember a couple of years ago, when City were running away with the league(100pts season). Geordie stated that the title would mean nothing, as it was bought with oil money, that it was ruining football etc. Somewhere down the line Newcastle were potentially going to be taken over by some billionaire and he changed his tune real fucking quickly. "I take it all back, City. I take it all back." When that eventually fell through, and City were pipping Liverpool to the title the following season, he reverted straight back to his old belief, City were ruining football etc. He's a funny guy but whenever he's passionate about something related to football, you can't take him seriously.
@glennb6020
@glennb6020 4 жыл бұрын
Alex Tomlinson he’s literally that bloke in the pub who shouts over everyone. Problem is people actually listen to him.
@3dsaulgoodman43
@3dsaulgoodman43 4 жыл бұрын
He's a bit of a hypocrite, sadly.
@jackcameron7193
@jackcameron7193 4 жыл бұрын
It kinda different tho city didn't have the same amount of history and fans as Newcastle have when they were taken over, In my opinion, city are a really cringy club and should go play under 10s. Whereas I feel that Newcastle is more of a real club with real long life supporters.
@mcorriette1
@mcorriette1 4 жыл бұрын
Jack Cameron what history do Newcastle have?? All clubs are real clubs with life long supporters,
@mcfcfan1870
@mcfcfan1870 4 жыл бұрын
@@jackcameron7193 mate mancity has more trophies before 2008 than Newcastle have now. And city had more fans than Newcastle too. Don't comment on subjects you dont know.
@dantespina7398
@dantespina7398 4 жыл бұрын
Alfie you completely went off, absolute fire. I loved this video Alfie. You are very well spoken
@inquisitivestarfish5157
@inquisitivestarfish5157 2 жыл бұрын
Who's here after the takeover actually took place
@alanbarnes5763
@alanbarnes5763 4 жыл бұрын
As Newcastle fan I think your spitting straight fax True Geordie is a complete sellout
@patwaddington
@patwaddington 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely man, sold out ages ago.
@rushdown3031
@rushdown3031 4 жыл бұрын
100%
@Tj-ve4gu
@Tj-ve4gu 4 жыл бұрын
@@patwaddington how...
@jonnym610
@jonnym610 4 жыл бұрын
Agree 100%, I think true Geordie probably needs to consider his platform and maybe research before stating his opinions in front of millions of people
@joshmartlew5486
@joshmartlew5486 4 жыл бұрын
Jonnym610 every quote was taken out of context
@megazeus7972
@megazeus7972 4 жыл бұрын
Eh!? Consider his platform? Is he not allowed to have his own opinion based on his own experience? You act like there's only one immutable truth on the subject.
@jonnym610
@jonnym610 4 жыл бұрын
@@megazeus7972 He needs to consider that with a large platform his opinions need to be researched otherwise he spreads misinformation. You can't just spread false information to a million people then claim that it's just your uninformed opinion
@jonnym610
@jonnym610 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshmartlew5486 Could you give an example? I couldn't see anything but if I was wrong I'd happily delete my comment
@megazeus7972
@megazeus7972 4 жыл бұрын
Jonnym610 there’s a big difference between misinformation and personal opinion, he was quite clear when he said he wasn’t an authority on the geopolitical and human rights aspects, unlike most football analysts, who all of a sudden are acting like they’re 30 year veteran political commentators.
@glennaldosf
@glennaldosf 4 жыл бұрын
Did you know that the True Geordie is a big fan of baroque classical music... I asked him what he was listening to once and he said, "Bach again".
@willpatrickguitar11
@willpatrickguitar11 4 жыл бұрын
glennaldosf that’s brilliant
@masonleach
@masonleach 4 жыл бұрын
I also expected better from Laurence. For someone who professes to be so liberal he really showed that morals don't count when your mates football team can make a few new signings.
@joepoole7807
@joepoole7807 4 жыл бұрын
I dont think you need to be a liberal to see the wrongs of the saudi's, i believe the whole political spectrum should oppose human rights abuse
@masonleach
@masonleach 4 жыл бұрын
@@joepoole7807 oh I know but someone who is particularly liberal you would expect to see that understanding even more
@joegilbert3149
@joegilbert3149 4 жыл бұрын
Laurence always trying to hate on the British government or English people for that matter, Maybe it's because he's a Liverpool fan and they don't see themselves as English I don't know.
@SebPZLDN
@SebPZLDN 4 жыл бұрын
@@joegilbert3149 you're sounding like a brainwashed nationalist there mate, maybe leave everyone else on here to have a nuanced discussion. Criticising your beloved government at a time when it is failing horrifically isn't anti-English, if anything it's pro English to argue that we deserve better.
@joegilbert3149
@joegilbert3149 4 жыл бұрын
@@SebPZLDN I'm not even a nationlist. I'm just saying Laurence has to make everything about politics in the discussions about football, I'm not saying I agree with the government but I'm just saying he's always negative.
@CGSocDem
@CGSocDem 4 жыл бұрын
I really hope True Geordie sees this, seems a good lad but so miseducated
@glennb6020
@glennb6020 4 жыл бұрын
C RH it’s normal. He wants his club to do well, but he is deliberately ignoring the criticisms because it’s his club. He’d be fuming if it was anyone else. Being completely biased is fine in football, but this is political where being unashamedly Biased makes you a fucking moron.
@Forestgravy90
@Forestgravy90 4 жыл бұрын
He's a twat
@JackManEveryday
@JackManEveryday 4 жыл бұрын
@@glennb6020 Bang on
@fleshen
@fleshen 4 жыл бұрын
@@glennb6020 Until it is your club!!
@glennb6020
@glennb6020 4 жыл бұрын
fleshen I’d be dead fucking against it if it was my club and I would stop going
@ThePope2003
@ThePope2003 4 жыл бұрын
I’m a Newcastle fan and majority of us don’t like Geordie he’s wrong constantly the only thing we agree on is we don’t like Ashley
@bjornandresen3247
@bjornandresen3247 4 жыл бұрын
Hugh Janus he’s talks a lot of sense and a lot of shit
@sammcivor1885
@sammcivor1885 4 жыл бұрын
Hugh Janus he hasn’t been to a match for years, bloke is a plastic these days
@ThePope2003
@ThePope2003 4 жыл бұрын
Sam Mcivor that’s another reason a lot of us don’t like him
@sammcivor1885
@sammcivor1885 4 жыл бұрын
Hugh Janus aye he’ll be back supporting us when the takeover happens though 😂
@bjornandresen3247
@bjornandresen3247 4 жыл бұрын
Hugh Janus but to be fair, he does the Kick Off weekly and he lives in London. He’s in loads of debt so he really needs to keep the Kick off going.
@TheMixCurator
@TheMixCurator 4 жыл бұрын
I watched that True Geordie video and am delighted you're taking it on. I mentioned in one of the comments about how hideous the new owner is, the reply was "you support the club not the owner", showing how unprincipled people can be. Plus, a lot of supporters seem to think life fits into neat pigeon holes with no overspill.
@glennb6020
@glennb6020 4 жыл бұрын
R C What a shitty catch all response that is. Support shouldn’t be blind bootlicking. It’s clear from the moon he only cares about the money.
@skitskot
@skitskot 4 жыл бұрын
Tbf, that’s the approach many took when Mike Ashley was in charge. So at least they’re consistent. I know this because I used to argue endlessly with people to try and get them to boycott at James’ park with little success
@glennb6020
@glennb6020 4 жыл бұрын
skitskot literally the same. The thought chanting for a minute in the stadium, whilst wearing club merchandise would show him.... they were meant to boycott the arsenal game a few years ago. They won 4/4 just before and the game was a sell out. Baffled they only really dislike him if they are in the bottle half
@glennb6020
@glennb6020 4 жыл бұрын
Oli Black they are complicit
@glennb6020
@glennb6020 4 жыл бұрын
Oli Black then protest the shit out of it. Report it to your MP and boycott the games, don’t buy the merchandise
@cainward2616
@cainward2616 4 жыл бұрын
And also the fact that for the last 3 years, he’s been constantly slating Man City’s owners, but now that a takeover for Newcastle happens he suddenly turns a blind eye
@keyson1323
@keyson1323 4 жыл бұрын
I like True Geodie too but I also thought he was being silly. Imagine being a Blackpool fan
@28theark
@28theark 4 жыл бұрын
Distant Lights yes but Blackpool are not in the same arena as Newcastle when it comes to size of ground the amount of fans and the draw of the area Newcastle is a city Blackpool is just a small scabby seaside town the northern equivalent of Brighton lol 😝 plus most Blackpool people are horrible cunts that I’ve come across 🤷🏻‍♂️
@badofcheese
@badofcheese 4 жыл бұрын
Doing that is doing the same thing people are criticising him for doing from a different angle. True Geordie “There’s loads of nasty owners so what does it matter?” Rebuke “You can’t refuse to talk about how bad someone is just because there’s other bad owners”. Newcastle fans “Mike Ashley is a shit owner”. Rebuke “I’m not even going to discuss why you think that because there’s loads of shit owners, many worse than him, you should be grateful. No, I don’t want to listen to anything fans can tell me that I might not already know”. Same thing, different angles. There being other nasty people in football doesn’t mean MBS isn’t a monster and that should be dismissed. In the same way that there being other shit owners doesn’t mean Mike Ashley isn’t a shit owner and that should be dismissed.
@thehonourablejudge1084
@thehonourablejudge1084 4 жыл бұрын
Video: why English players don’t play abroad to big European clubs that much anymore Edit: or just British players Like so they see
@user-ei5sv3pb5g
@user-ei5sv3pb5g 4 жыл бұрын
Money
@thehonourablejudge1084
@thehonourablejudge1084 4 жыл бұрын
676 555 i know that one but also it seems European clubs don’t even find interest in top British players, like riyad mahrez and sane are pprobably more likely to get an offer from a big European than Raheem sterling
@Georgeg15
@Georgeg15 4 жыл бұрын
@@thehonourablejudge1084 dude you do realise british players have recently started playing abroad ... Ramsey , sancho , trippier , lookman to name a few .
@thehonourablejudge1084
@thehonourablejudge1084 4 жыл бұрын
George Green yes but that doesn’t compare to the amount of other countries for example Spanish and Brazilian players playing across many different leagues, you could barely compile a good XI of British players playing abroad
@thehonourablejudge1084
@thehonourablejudge1084 4 жыл бұрын
Vinny Mac a reason they could leave is that you will see when foreign players reach their peak they will leave the prem for la liga especially bcoz the prem is the most competitive but they will never have the worlds best player at their peak for a long time while la liga is a very attractive towards ballondor winners who are still playing well this may be because of how competitive the prem is just think about the fact that the last ballondor winner who stayed was Michael Owen and he was not among the top 10 in the world after winning it
@willpatrickguitar11
@willpatrickguitar11 4 жыл бұрын
I’m glad someone with such a platform has posted this; fantastic argument
@joshmartlew5486
@joshmartlew5486 4 жыл бұрын
Will Patrick every quote was taken out of context
@captp7141
@captp7141 4 жыл бұрын
Really?....... fantastic argument!!!, I've got to ask do you actually follow football? or just eat pigshit for a hobby because that is all this video is. A disgruntled (I'm assuming Hull fan) jealous that NUFC will be the RICHEST FOOTBALL CLUB IN THE WORLD:):):):)hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
@joshmartlew5486
@joshmartlew5486 4 жыл бұрын
Capt P I’m a Newcastle fan aswell mate but we don’t know what these blokes are like and the takeover hasn’t gone through yet
@rushdown3031
@rushdown3031 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshmartlew5486 You two below the main comment are absolute plebs.
@joshmartlew5486
@joshmartlew5486 4 жыл бұрын
BadGeordiePlays why are we plebs then
@JSmooth-YouTube
@JSmooth-YouTube 2 жыл бұрын
Someone that has integrity, and deserves success: you, Alfie. Great video! 👍😁 People that don't have integrity, and don't deserve success: Newcastle United's former owner, Mike Ashley, and Newcastle United's current owner, Mohammad Bin Salman Al Saud. 😤🤬
@ejaaz7260
@ejaaz7260 4 жыл бұрын
I never really comment on your YT videos but this one really impressed me. Even the previous MBS video was spot on. Well done man 👍
@baileyelvin8908
@baileyelvin8908 4 жыл бұрын
True geordie got put in a spliff
@yvesatt1199
@yvesatt1199 4 жыл бұрын
11 player born in Germany but play for different country
@christianmayall8034
@christianmayall8034 4 жыл бұрын
Yves Att or best German team of Turkish descent
@gokhulmanikandan7689
@gokhulmanikandan7689 4 жыл бұрын
Kevin Prince Boateng is one
@yahoojab
@yahoojab 4 жыл бұрын
Jermaine Jones comes to mind.
@asajlasa9476
@asajlasa9476 4 жыл бұрын
Brooks, Cahlanoglu, Kolasinac, Pasalic too
@yahoojab
@yahoojab 4 жыл бұрын
Jose Holebas, too.
@redgaek
@redgaek 4 жыл бұрын
Alfie, this is just amazing. Well thought out and articulated arguement. Lesson to people who think shouting means winning. Well done. Proving again why you are the leading light of KZbin.
@joshmartlew5486
@joshmartlew5486 4 жыл бұрын
Sunny Gaekwad every quote was taken out of context
@Emdee47317
@Emdee47317 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshmartlew5486 really? How so? Care to back your claim instead of leaving a comment that is just a lazy defence of someone who was wrong in his claims?
@samirmiah8592
@samirmiah8592 4 жыл бұрын
@@Emdee47317 he's replied to so many comments with the same thing without any evidence. just ignore him
@smartgenes1
@smartgenes1 4 жыл бұрын
Well, this is just shouting, albeit he narrates like he has a corncob up his backside with verbose prose. Nothing he said has actually any validity,
@jeremygonzales5295
@jeremygonzales5295 4 жыл бұрын
Alfie, this was a great and well thought out take. Thanks for making such a great commentary piece. Maybe you could make some political commentary videos on a different channel
@JackManEveryday
@JackManEveryday 4 жыл бұрын
YES!!! Something like Visualpolitik but with Alfie would be insane.
@philthyw
@philthyw 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great video and you’re so well informed and articulate. I know you said you don’t want to do more videos like this but I think you should 👌🏼
@beast0blood
@beast0blood 2 жыл бұрын
Only came across this video as a result of the latest one... This is absolutely spot on.
@maxbennett8320
@maxbennett8320 2 жыл бұрын
Well this is depressing to look back at now
@danielepjanic7621
@danielepjanic7621 4 жыл бұрын
Love this, watched it & was really agitated by his uneducated comments when so many will listen to him, great video, great channel, Legend.
@BillyfromConsett
@BillyfromConsett 2 жыл бұрын
The Kick Off lads were essentially talking, with pub style banter, about football. They admitted that their knowledge of the leader of Saudi Arabia wasn't their specialist subject. Regarding the club's horrible owner - although there are far worse owners of football clubs than Mike Ashley, Newcastle fans would say that he did spend the significant amounts of Newcastle's income only when his bargain basement spending ended up with his football business being relegated from the top cash league.
@wadepemberton9025
@wadepemberton9025 4 жыл бұрын
2:40 the one Club the media has a bias for is definitely Liverpool, well the old school media anyway
@ConorAFC
@ConorAFC 4 жыл бұрын
Theres 100% a modern bias against all of the big 4 in England
@olliemackenzie4211
@olliemackenzie4211 4 жыл бұрын
Spoken like a true united fan
@wadepemberton9025
@wadepemberton9025 4 жыл бұрын
@@olliemackenzie4211 correction Chelsea fan😂 give me Liverpool over utd any day just stating facts
@twilso9
@twilso9 4 жыл бұрын
This just ended any discussion to be had on the topic.
@joshmartlew5486
@joshmartlew5486 4 жыл бұрын
Tavian Wilson every quote was taken out of context
@ethanreed043
@ethanreed043 4 жыл бұрын
Josh Martlew spot on.
@corvus2512
@corvus2512 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshmartlew5486 really? How so? Ive seen the original video but i cant recall how it was taken out of context
@greatgrump
@greatgrump 4 жыл бұрын
I am so glad you made this video. I'm a Newcastle supporter, and I am deeply saddened that after years of begging for a new owner, when we find one, he is arguably one of the most disgustingly evil men to currently walk the earth. Also it concerns me just how few people truly know of his, and to a greater extent, Saudi Arabia's crimes are. (And by extension of our military assistance, our own government!)
@IrishGuysScarf
@IrishGuysScarf 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for at the very least recognising MBS’s regime as many cannot even do that. I’ve talked to quite a few people about the PIF takeover and nobody actually knew MBS is the de-facto king of Saudi Arabia. They all just assumed he was a Saudi businessman with a lot of money to throw around.
@simoncaton1226
@simoncaton1226 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, Alfie you nailed it. Thank you for posting about this debate. Note that the people in this debate are normal people such as you or I. They are not political commentators or lawyers that need to make solid, complete arguments that stand up to scrutiny.
@GammyLeg444
@GammyLeg444 4 жыл бұрын
You’ve earned a subscribe from me. A very elegant and composed retort. TG sold his soul a few years back - he was very watchable as an angry, unhinged and emotional guy, shouting about all that was wrong at NUFC. Now you’d barely realise he supports them. Guess he’ll talk about them again if they become a top team after the takeover.
@matthew7jarman
@matthew7jarman 4 жыл бұрын
I'd much rather listen to your videos on football from the early to mid 1900's and I'd find it especially preferable to never hear political nonsense on this channel again. However, as much as I hate voicing political views to, well, anyone in this mindboggling and over opinionated landscape we find ourselves in, I must admit this video is truly Outstanding!!! There are a lot of people who dont have the general knowledge or emotional stability to take your points on board, but I hope they hear this and it at least makes them think, contemplate and maybe see life in a different light. You my friend are a breath of fresh air, not just in the football community, but as a journalist in general. Keep up the excellent work and congratulations on a brilliant football channel
@HITCSevens
@HITCSevens 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Matt.
@worldwarwinner98
@worldwarwinner98 4 жыл бұрын
I’m so happy you made this video. Been a fan of Brian for years but since he started making the Kick-Off his football opinions have gone down the drain and he’s become extremely arrogant, someone needed to call him out.
@Strawt
@Strawt 4 жыл бұрын
Genuinely one of the best takedown videos I've ever seen on yt, and it's not even technically Ur main focus on yt 😂 nice one Alfie 👏
@brash6240
@brash6240 4 жыл бұрын
Came here from watching the 'chuckle in' that you are referring to... 100% agree you nailed it. But as was said on the comfortable foursome WHF are we expected to do? Haven't we all been lead up this particular garden path? Ignorance is and will always be bliss, however can we and should we now still hold onto that stick? Mmmm... ? Super well said all the way :) New sub happy to be here.
@Sasso-pf1mo
@Sasso-pf1mo 4 жыл бұрын
Id rather Manchester United were liquidised than bought by owners who made their fortune violating human rights!
@harrypodmore4292
@harrypodmore4292 4 жыл бұрын
I just want man united to be liquidised
@jos9559
@jos9559 4 жыл бұрын
@@Micfri300 very true, but that person would clearly have some overriding bias/personal agenda informing his position
@johnwhittaker311
@johnwhittaker311 4 жыл бұрын
Michele Frisoli id say that being in that position would be very unhealthy and actually removing that from them could be the best way to help them if it pushes them to see someone about it. Relying solely on football for happiness is a bad idea and should be addressed immediately because anything could happen to it at any time
@johnwhittaker311
@johnwhittaker311 4 жыл бұрын
Michele Frisoli well Lockdown has already done that. My point is anyone relying only on football for happinesses needs to get help from a professional, not just put up with living like that
@johnwhittaker311
@johnwhittaker311 4 жыл бұрын
Michele Frisoli didn’t say they did, but doesn’t mean they can’t do anything about it
@jamesmccabe1152
@jamesmccabe1152 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Alfie. A well structured arguement while also giving Newcastle fans the respect that they deserve.
@ili4707
@ili4707 4 жыл бұрын
That MBS video was great! Now we want the history of the RAF (Rote Armee Fraktion)!😉 On a more serious note, a video about the iranian clubs would be great, especially Traktor.
@thelastgreataudit8112
@thelastgreataudit8112 2 жыл бұрын
This is a brilliant oppritunity to have a zoom with Michael and do a joint Q&A on the takeover.
@zsht
@zsht 4 жыл бұрын
Even Roman Abramovich hasn’t chopped a journalist into small chunks and walked him out in a suitcase, like Bin Salman did
@lovefan7694
@lovefan7694 4 жыл бұрын
Football is my passion. I live and breathe football. It has given me almost everything I remotely enjoy (friends, hangouts, dopamine and serotonin in general). However, I can't imagine being so fucking blinded by football that I intentionally look the other way and make up excuses for someone like MBS, whose wrongdoings are so well documented. Great video honestly, hope Geordie sees it and either makes good arguments or changes his mind.
@plantbasedgeordie1824
@plantbasedgeordie1824 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone (press and Manchester United fans) seems to be turning a blind eye to Manchester United's investment deal with the Saudi Arabian Government and Saudi Telecom (State owned) but you think NUFC fans should be different?
@cameron1896
@cameron1896 4 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see the Kick Off team respond to this video, you have the perfect tone of cheek and smarts
@danielbaycock6929
@danielbaycock6929 4 жыл бұрын
Very well constructed video, made some really clear cut points and unpicked True Geordies argument excellently. I can tell you have experience in journalism, Keep up the great Videos mate!
@SaintsAwayOllie
@SaintsAwayOllie 4 жыл бұрын
I love TG but I feel he has lost touch with real football. He barley goes to games anymore, and sits about talking almost exclusively about the top top teams. I get that's what brings the money in for his channel/ business, so fair pay. But he's lost touch of what real football is, an experience, NOT a TV show.
@glennb6020
@glennb6020 4 жыл бұрын
SaintsAwayOllie to true geordie nothing beats that moment you get a twitter notification saying ‘goal Newcastle’
@Forestgravy90
@Forestgravy90 4 жыл бұрын
Agree. There is nothing better in the afternoon than a local non league game with people who you know
@sheenyheed
@sheenyheed 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair nobody goes to games anymore 😢
@callum0592
@callum0592 4 жыл бұрын
If you had actually,watched his older newcastle videos? He tells you,why he stopped going to Newcastle games and why he stopped talking about The Toon. because every question and topic at the time was about Mike Ashley and team was doing shite. I stopped going to games after John Carver and I’ve be going to game since I was 4 years.
@joeroy5892
@joeroy5892 4 жыл бұрын
When the Saudis were linked with United I said I wouldn’t support them anymore if the takeover happened
@kushagradeepmishra1451
@kushagradeepmishra1451 4 жыл бұрын
same here... glazers are bad.. but atleast they're only killing our club not yemen
@happy_capybara
@happy_capybara 4 жыл бұрын
@@kushagradeepmishra1451 I agree. But the glazers did give, literally, millions to the Donald Trump campaign. Again, not equal to the Saudis, but not great.
@rorybessell8280
@rorybessell8280 4 жыл бұрын
@@happy_capybara Well at least they didn't support the Clinton campaign
@adamhughes4387
@adamhughes4387 4 жыл бұрын
You do you. But if the fans of City, Everton, Chelsea, Sheffield United, Wolves etc aren't gonna stop supporting their club because their owner's are businessmen from countries rife with human right abuse, then personally I'm not gonna stop supporting mine even if I disagree with the owner's politics.
@joeroy5892
@joeroy5892 4 жыл бұрын
Adam Hughes ye but they are nowhere near as bad as MBS.
@droland3949
@droland3949 4 жыл бұрын
My god this is a total destruction. Ruthless. Thanks for framing and contributing to ideas many believe in by just don't know how to articulate. Great video
@KennDrumm
@KennDrumm 4 жыл бұрын
This is utterly excellent. I’m a politics academic and have not heard many arguments and deliveries as well constructed as this. Granted I don’t specialise in the Middle East but I’ve heard many debates on the matter and a number of opinions re this particular subject recently and this is the best. Your videos are always great Alfie but this last few weeks they’ve been exceptional.
@lewisbriscoe1493
@lewisbriscoe1493 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing analysis of the Newcastle Utd takeover and of the True Geordies debate about the subject. Keep it up with the great content.
@owensanders478
@owensanders478 4 жыл бұрын
do 7 celebrities who nearly became footballers
@jamespickin8811
@jamespickin8811 4 жыл бұрын
Bradley Walsh and Rod Stuart were both on the books for Brentford 😅
@jonlemierte9605
@jonlemierte9605 4 жыл бұрын
Owen Sanders Odell Beckham Jr (American "football" player)
@LindonsChannel
@LindonsChannel 4 жыл бұрын
This is a quality video, hope this gets the views it deserves. I am a massive True Geordie fan but logically you have derailed his argument fairly and with great examples and references.
@TomPFC
@TomPFC 4 жыл бұрын
Good on you for making this video alfie. I’m a big fan of true geordie and have got alot of time and respect for him, however you echoed alot of things I thought when I watched that video too here, that I’m glad have been highlighted. Takes alot of guts to make a video like this on someone with such clout online. Brian has always said he’s happy to hear opposing points to his own, and that if he is ever wrong about something he’d want to be called out. Lets hope thats kept in mind by his fanbase (and him) if any of them stumble across this video.
@harveyholmes9533
@harveyholmes9533 4 жыл бұрын
Hopefully we’ll see an FC United of Newcastle set up by fans who care
@yungtrashlord
@yungtrashlord 4 жыл бұрын
if this really exist it should have existed since mike ashley became chairman
@jackhind5904
@jackhind5904 4 жыл бұрын
Harvey Holmes there no way in a million years that this will happen
@cmdell4693
@cmdell4693 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah blame all Newcastle fans you fucking clown.
@connortheandroidsentbycybe7740
@connortheandroidsentbycybe7740 4 жыл бұрын
You're kidding right? So long as money's spent & trophies are won, they don't give 2 shits
@yungtrashlord
@yungtrashlord 4 жыл бұрын
@@connortheandroidsentbycybe7740 exactly my thoughts, no geordie would ever have that as a priority
@philjonessmemes4224
@philjonessmemes4224 4 жыл бұрын
7 best players who have never played with each other on the national team
@pakhriahmohameddaud5392
@pakhriahmohameddaud5392 4 жыл бұрын
Laporte maybe
@sweetrock
@sweetrock 4 жыл бұрын
This is probably your best video, so much sass, dripping in sarcasm, obviously done research, keep that up!
@tomblaylock5850
@tomblaylock5850 4 жыл бұрын
NUFC fan here - thanks for bringing up the UK involvement with these regimes and the history of the UK gov. A lot of our fans haven't studied this, or seen UK foreign policy in action. I always urge people to try and be informed as much as possible. I think you may have missed some of the points of our protests of Ashley. It wasn't to say other clubs haven't got it worse. We were more high profile and because of that were sneered at for challenging not only a British billionaire but the ownership model of English football. Which needs to be challenged if we're going to stop not the commercialisation of our game and the incentive for these regimes to use it to sport swash.
@TheT0ttenham
@TheT0ttenham 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Alfie. I used to watch true geordie a few years ago but simply can’t stomach his views anymore. They are quite frankly lazy and ill-informed. Themselves and their guests seem to spin from one narrative to the next.
@WoodsRaynor
@WoodsRaynor 4 жыл бұрын
This is straight 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@charliequirk7046
@charliequirk7046 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and great argument , Magpie fans suffer with the one club city entitlement that Leeds and Sunderland do , 25 years ago Newcastle were everyones 2nd team . True Geordie thrives on the drama and controversy of being outspoken. No one feels sorry for Newcastle because 65 % of fans are much worse off , look at Bury ,Southend and the likes . If Hitler had bought Portsmouth in 1939 we'd all be up in arms !!
@Oakeedokee7
@Oakeedokee7 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think I could have said it better really
@Kylers2000
@Kylers2000 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great video you bring up a lot of great points that wasn't covered in geordies video. I found it funny that in that video when rory would try to make the point that just because they have money doesn't mean they will be a successful geordie kept cutting him of and saying its not going to be like that because they have a lot of money even though rory was making a great point and actually trying to debate the takeover by looking at the other outcome
@mjenius
@mjenius 4 жыл бұрын
Somehow this was the exact other HITC channel I expected to become a commentary channel
@nicolasgonzalez3452
@nicolasgonzalez3452 4 жыл бұрын
This was scathing and I LOVED it
@SebPZLDN
@SebPZLDN 4 жыл бұрын
Very happy this video exists. The opinions shared on that kick off video were shocking (and I'd argue embarrassing), but TG's fanbase seemed to be attacking any criticism of them in the comments. Quite concerning, stuff like this gives football a bad name
@marcdepaoli4629
@marcdepaoli4629 4 жыл бұрын
Keen to watch this, even when I love both of these channels! Little scared tho, not my two fave channels😂
@wolfmauler
@wolfmauler 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Top notch Alfie. Missed this one before. I respect this so much. Call a Spade a Spade. Moral relativism must be called out.
@Adbek_
@Adbek_ 4 жыл бұрын
7 best players to have played for the 7 best London teams.
@wakanzeee46
@wakanzeee46 4 жыл бұрын
_AdBek_ 1. Kane 2. Lampard 3. Henry 4. Moore 5. Wright/Zaha 6. Berbatov? 7. Alan Cork?
@Adbek_
@Adbek_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@wakanzeee46 Keep dreaming Kane and spurs are not even top 2 in the rankings.
@wakanzeee46
@wakanzeee46 4 жыл бұрын
_AdBek_ im not saying Kane is no1 lol. Forgot to put in order. 1. Henry 2. Moore 3. Lampard 4. Kane 5. Wright 6. Berbatov 7. Alan Cork
@scott2222
@scott2222 4 жыл бұрын
@@wakanzeee46 Kane is not spurs best ever player. He's just a goal scorer his all round game is not off top quality. Spurs have has Campbell, Modric, Klinsmann, Bale, Van Der Vart and others
@joewilkinson5585
@joewilkinson5585 4 жыл бұрын
Such a well put together video. The Delia Smith comparison was unreal
@johna6602
@johna6602 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a Newcastle fan and I understand both sides. We just want ambition and the have a go hero days of Keegan and Sir John Hall etc, breaking WR transfers and giving the fan's excitement. It's true people are overlooking the atrocities, and they don't seem to care as long as they have something to look forward to again. It's really sad.
@wertrocks123
@wertrocks123 4 жыл бұрын
I got an advert for fairy liquid halfway through, even the algorithm thinks you really took 'em to the cleaners on this one
@shoaib3385
@shoaib3385 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly your one of the smartest young man I’ve ever seen.your knowledgeable in so many topics, love ya work mate
@Cat-cq1st
@Cat-cq1st 4 жыл бұрын
I love this channel, this is exactly what we need!
@cafi1999217
@cafi1999217 4 жыл бұрын
This is a very well constructed video. Makes a few disses here and there for jokes sake but is generally very strict to the point, very logical, very calm, very intelligent. It eloquently dissects and exposes true geordie´s contradictory point. I expect that you will recieve, in the following days, a lot of hate from his pre-teen audience, but that is to be expected, and in general, this is a positive response
@cinnamontoastcrunch5665
@cinnamontoastcrunch5665 4 жыл бұрын
I used to whatch him when he just filmed himself ranting about Steve McClaren but than he went all big and interviewing everyone under the sun I just didn't find his content interesting anymore
@Tj-ve4gu
@Tj-ve4gu 4 жыл бұрын
U mean it got better...
@dervertica
@dervertica 4 жыл бұрын
He should change his name to 'The False Geordie'!
@chrisodriscoll3077
@chrisodriscoll3077 4 жыл бұрын
Very well made points. A rare example of a well constructed argument. Brings a tear to my eye to think how many kids watching have never seen one before.
@SoundzCool
@SoundzCool 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you and I don't think you have any malice in this video. As a NUFC fan myself I honestly don't know what to do, part of me just wants to get out, where as the other doesn't want to ruin a love I've had since 1994. It's certainly not the moral conundrum I wanted to face whilst in lockdown that's for sure.
@TrippyAssassin8
@TrippyAssassin8 4 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story: Nobody cares about morality unless it directly benefits their interests.... Shocker
@henrysmith75
@henrysmith75 4 жыл бұрын
I can appreciate some of the points he makes but I think it's pretty easy to cherry pick certain point of a relaxed debate of which the opposing side made very questionable points too. It really annoys me that he kept going back the fact he doesn't do videos like this but then immediately proceeds to hack into him more, its obvious he doesn't like the video and its pretty weak to still make it look like he's sitting on the fence. Mike Ashley is also almost certainly a bad owner, he doesn't invest into the club and it seems that lots of the other clubs you picked out weren't nearly as big. I think the love in the comments is hilarious. To someone who is making a video on why people have been mislead or why they shouldn't trust a video his comment section seems to be pretty loving and takes it at face value.
@phigbill
@phigbill 4 жыл бұрын
As a Newcastle fan, I'm glad someone has finally stepped up and said this, yes Ashley has not been the majority of people's cup of tea be that because of his business ethics or his lack of clear communication with fans, but he is potentially leaving the club as one of, if not the best, financially ran clubs in the Premier League and at this moment in time considering the economic fallout of COVID-19 that's an excellent position to be in, people like the True Geordie wonder why Newcastle Fans get a bad reputation and called deluded, after watching his video I can see why, so many cringe moments which could come back to bite him in the arse and make him look very foolish. We always hear that as a fan you support the team and not the regime, again something as a Newcastle fan I've heard myself relating to Mike Ashley, but when you have more than questionable regimes such as the PIF/Saudi Royals coming into your club, as a fan you have to make it your own responsibility to do you own due diligence and make your mind up, in this instance its blatantly obvious there are ethical and moral concerns with these new owners, yes I will support my team and will welcome investment, but it will still consciously make me feel a little uncomfortable unless PIF/Saudi start making huge strides and improving human rights and ethics within their own country and end the unjustified war in Yemen. Any NUFC fan who feels that the press coverage and commentary on this subject is a personal attack upon them and their football club need to step back and take a long hard look in the mirror and question where their own moral compass points?
@mikelitorous5570
@mikelitorous5570 4 жыл бұрын
You nailed this video mate. As a Sunderland fan it’s so hard to see this happening to Newcastle while we’re dossing about in league 1 but also the fact that no one wants to bring up how appalling the human rights record of the Saudis are and some of the arguments that are being said don’t make any sense
@kennethtully
@kennethtully 4 жыл бұрын
Salllltttyyy
@mikelitorous5570
@mikelitorous5570 4 жыл бұрын
kennethtully tbf mate I am jealous, of course I am but the newcastle fans tried to take the moral high ground on how bad ashley was yet they’ve now got owners who are a million times worse. It shows it was never about Ashley as the person.
@kennethtully
@kennethtully 4 жыл бұрын
Of course it was about ashley I would take any owner regardless of the amount of money they have
@mikelitorous5570
@mikelitorous5570 3 жыл бұрын
kennethtully but it wasn’t about ashley as a person. They just used that agenda to take the moral high ground because now they are supporting someone who is 20 billion times worse objectively as a person.
@calebmufcthompson
@calebmufcthompson 4 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early, the true Geordie had a full head of hair
@elgordo3936
@elgordo3936 4 жыл бұрын
Man went full Shapiro on him. Savage
@bobmcbobg1696
@bobmcbobg1696 4 жыл бұрын
Can’t way to see TG’s rebuttal. This should be good haha. Great vid!
@hristorusanov23
@hristorusanov23 4 жыл бұрын
That was a very well constructed video and opinion. Good job!
@philjonessmemes4224
@philjonessmemes4224 4 жыл бұрын
7 games that made a player wanted by top clubs
@mcfcfan1870
@mcfcfan1870 4 жыл бұрын
Tbf since he is auctally the auctally the president ( or king/prime minister idk ) then thats not really too good but in all honesty I'd still want him to takeover Newcastle and succeed as it would be good for football and Newcastle fans, but yeah the fact he is auctally the one running the shitshow isn't good. I suppose things are only getting better in Saudi Arabia with women being allowed to drive but it's i tough situation.
@iCASHH
@iCASHH 4 жыл бұрын
Am a Newcastle & TG fan but I do agree with this very non-biased, well measured breakdown about the situation and TG's video. It is some food for thought for me as a fan as well. Either ways, kudos on not using DMs but pure facts to go on about Geordie, unlike so many KZbinrs out there who use personal digs just to get one over him (yes I'm looking at you Kavos)
@SINGHDASLAYA
@SINGHDASLAYA 4 жыл бұрын
No offence to True Geordie but he himself has questionable morals. He tried to justify reckless spending and the fall of his network of channels on the fact that he thought he was going to get a sponsor and would be able to leech their money on luxuries because he is a "Geordie boy" without even having the contract signed and submitted. It's like eating a cake before you buy it only to find out you have no money to pay for it.
@padstoker3008
@padstoker3008 4 жыл бұрын
We get it you don’t want him to take over Newcastle
@glennb6020
@glennb6020 4 жыл бұрын
Pad Stoker for the valid reasons stated.
@ir1939
@ir1939 4 жыл бұрын
Pad Stoker mate you’ve completely missed the point
@padstoker3008
@padstoker3008 4 жыл бұрын
Glenn B yes but other clubs are owned by people from Saudi Arabia as well I don’t suspect he only puts fuel from England in his car
@glennb6020
@glennb6020 4 жыл бұрын
Pad Stoker are they owned by the guy who is about to be in charge? Watch the video mate he literally discusses this
@benflanagan7354
@benflanagan7354 4 жыл бұрын
@@glennb6020 sheffield united. but the huge difference is that mbs is essientally acting king through being crown prince as king salman is too ill to do much outside of saudi arabia itself dutywise at least.
@craigwck7626
@craigwck7626 2 жыл бұрын
"I, a middle class person, have never seen anti working class bigotry in my field, so naturally it doesn't exist"
@jamespendleton1878
@jamespendleton1878 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Alfie. Their programme is filled with this utter drivel every week.
@tomasbidois7857
@tomasbidois7857 4 жыл бұрын
mate. epic response to this bro, very well said. You just got a new sub
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