Why The U.S. Won’t Do Away With Tipping

[@mydogisbailey]

As a consumer, I believe that any restaurant that cannot afford to pay their employees proper minimum wage deserve to shut down. Plain and simple

[@Blessed2024.]

Everyone that owns a restaurant should then close. If you don’t own a restaurant business you dont understand the economics. Especially with what’s starting to happen in Crazy California. They are making restaurants increase thier minimum wage to $20. That’s like a 20-25% increase in everyone’s wages in that industry. So what do you think is gonna happen to you when you go to a restaurant, you’re gonna have to pay a lot more now if that spreads throughout the whole country. Your workplace is not going to increase your wages 20 to 25% overnight.. it’s called basic economics.

[@wiimooden]

Then they'll just pass the added costs on you, the consumer. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, that's just the reality of it. It's strange you don't see people talking about the downsides of getting rid of tipping in the comments, namely the few that earn a lot end up leaving for tipped positions.

[@edipires15]

@@wiimoodenif the newly raised prices are lower than what you used to pay with tips, it’s still a win for consumers. In other developed countries that’s exactly how it’s done and there are no problems

[@BobJones-nk6nl]

And if you have no skills, then you should stop whining about it and you do not deserve anything. Entitled much? Customers are not your employers. Go complain to the restaurant owner or learn some skills that can get you a better paying job.

[@hilaireb795]

absolute fact.

[@TheBlawdfire]

How does this video not once mention that the entire rest of the world manages to pay servers non-tipped wages with zero drama? The businessowners saying they "can't afford to pay" are either lying or never had a viable business model in the first place

[@sdlock83]

Exactly! It's the employers job to innovate their business practices.

[@goodfellabeats]

@@sdlock83 No innovation needed. Restaurant profit margins are usually around 5%. If they lower that to pay workers, then that percentage, you pay the difference. As long as you're cool with that, there's your solution.That, or replace with machines.

[@looooool_guy]

The servers are in on it too. They love the current system.

[@willywatkins-zh9xd]

because they pay more for there food......

[@beng4647]

All rich people lie.

[@TheBourbonWrench]

Just came back from a trip to Italy. An item on the menu would say “$25.” I would get the check and it would be exactly $25. No taxes, no tip. I even tried to tip a bartender for bringing a bottle of wine to our rooftop patio and he downright refused. He told me “this is what I am paid to do.” Tipping is ridiculous. People should be paid for the work they do by their employers; not from the “kindness of customers hearts.” If for some reason you go above and beyond the line of duty serving food, then by all means leave a tip. But their livelihoods shouldn’t be based on some sort of expectation.

[@CR_3598]

What's the incentive for people to give good service if you get paid the same either way. I'm not saying that's my mentality but that is definitely the mentality of many people

[@edipires15]

@@CR_3598 In Europe, as a server you get pay to provide good service, that’s your job. If you don’t, you tarnish the reputation of the restaurant and you’ll likely get fired. Tipping is considered as a perk of the job, but it’s not mandatory and it’s not outlandish like in the US (except in a few locations)

[@abdullahakhtar9824]

@@CR_3598if people complain you can get reprimanded

[@prtdiva]

@@CR_3598your incentive to give good service is because it’s your JOB! What’s a teacher’s incentive to be a great teacher? It’s their JOB. It’s what you signed up to do. And yes, many servers will quit if we do away with tips. However, those jobs will be replaced by people who don’t mind making minimum wage. The thing about serving is it’s not a high skill job. With a little bit of training, most people can do it. That’s why the people who currently do it are easily replaced.

[@Ihatebs]

@@edipires15Exactly, you vote with your money and maybe online review. Tipping is ridiculous.

[@craigime]

at this point it's not tipping anymore... they're just guilting you into giving them more money

[@TC-cd5sm]

There is a popular ramen chain in Japan, Ichiran ramen, that has three restaurants in the NYC area. They do business exactly the way they do business in Japan: no tipping. They make it very clear as you enter the restaurant and at the checkout, they are NOT a tipping establishment. They adjust the pricing accordingly on the menu and when the bill is paid at the front, you pay what you owe, NO tip. This is how restaurants in the USA should handle it. No need to tip, just adjust your pricing.

[@TonyChanTurbo]

I just went to one of the NYC locations. Definitely appreciated the no tip policy. I will say the price is much higher for a bowl compared to the Japan locations though. But eating out in Japan seemed to be more affordable in general. As a country everyone will just have to get used to the higher sticker price for this strategy to work in the US though.

[@triaxe-mmb]

Part of the higher cost is probably because they like many of the good/great ramen places that import the flour and other ingredients from Japan so their base costs are just higher than in Japan

[@paulmichaelfreedman8334]

When I was in the states I had no idea initially. Later on I would give a tip, but I felt bad for the employees that I hadn't tipped. But thinking about it, it's really ludicrous that employees are dependent on the tips. And it fuels resentment. I live in the Netherlands, where tipping is done, but only as an extra if one can afford it and it is considered a compliment to the services of the waiter.. It is in no way expected.

[@SuperSaverPlaysSPG]

they must find it annoying that they even have to state that. In Japan, China, you will get a death stare if you are silly enough to tip at a restaurant. They are not beggars. They work for a living.

[@eduardochavacano]

Tipping just sound so irrational. Unfortunately, some idiots in the Philippines normalize that too. There is already a service charge or table charge. Some Filipinos tip when they get hair cuts and massages, so it becomes uncomfortable if you dont. But its not as common as in the US. 1 dollar tip is okay. But lots of people would tip higher.

[@christiansantiagophotography]

Anyone who has done a fair bit of traveling to other countries will truly appreciate just how antiquated and silly tipping is. It’s a myth that eliminating it would cause drastic price increases. I actually spend less money eating higher quality meals in Europe than I do in America despite their staff making living wages.

[@christophergrissom484]

As a tipped employee I would quit without tips so your full of crap

[@christophergrissom484]

Nobody is gonna wait on you for free. It’s a service and In europe they make good money that’s why

[@christiansantiagophotography]

@@christophergrissom484 I’am not asking anyone to wait on me for free, dingus. I am saying do away with the practice and pay servers a living wage like they do successfully in the rest of the civilized world.

[@shaggymcdaniel3216]

@@christophergrissom484Yeah Dingus. You make no sense. Go to school.

[@tungvudang9414]

@@christophergrissom484 you missed the point so hard i thought you were in a parallel dimension

[@brianthesnail3815]

Its ridiculous for a restaurant to claim that they can afford to pay a waiter/waitress but then expect the customer to make up the wages with a tip. It still costs the customer the same as being honest and putting it on the bill to start with. Its happening more and more in the UK too.

[@eduardochavacano]

Tipping makes these workers no differenf from children begging on the streets.

[@Apollo440]

@@eduardochavacano but they can't say or show it, because it will "hurt the image of the restaurant".

[@helloimclaudio]

Exactly, the restaurant owner in this video said, ‘if we raise their wages, then we need to raise prices, resulting in customers tipping less’ Well that’s the point, customers will tip less now that you pay a livable wage. That restaurant owner is not saying the truth.

[@DerekSmort]

This is why I never tip here in Brazil. I do't want this trend to come here, It'll only make services like uber eats and similar to undercut the workers in the long run

[@Whatsthe_411]

Exactly. Why should it be on the consumers to cover for your overhead. Tips are designed with incentives not a right.

[@HotRodDad]

Sorry, if you’re adding a 20% “hospitality” charge, don’t expect a tip, too. THERE. WILL. BE. NO. TIP!

[@mikecrane2093]

If I see a "hospitality charge" on the bill I cross it off and recalculate the bill.

[@LALINROBLES]

Even "hospitality" is stupid. It is like a forced 20% tip. To the restaurant owner: PAY THAT FROM YOUR OWN POCKET, not from the customers.

[@jackli6592]

@@LALINROBLES dude, its always the customers who pay the salaries. giving it a different name doesnt change the facts. you think the business actually pay the salaries?

[@LALINROBLES]

@@jackli6592 NO. In The rest of the world the business/business owner pays salaries from his profit. NOT THE CUSTOMERS.

[@jackli6592]

@@LALINROBLES no business pay salaries from the profit, salaries are call expense not profit. and those expense are paid BY the customers. if there is no customer to pay for those expense there is NO business and no salaries. no owner of business has ever pay salaries out of his pocket. even the NON profit organization.

[@pancake_george]

It’s crazy how they say “we can’t pay our workers because we don’t have money” and they’re just allowed to exist

[@m.stewart7208]

Nailed it. Exactly that!

[@mrpeepers541]

Have pancake, George.

[@youtubeuser1052]

Are you advocating mass murder? Pretty harsh to say people shouldn't be allowed to exist just because they don't have a lot of money.

[@albedo0point39]

You the customer end up paying the worker either way. You tip, or they increase the cost of the meal so they can raise wages.

[@cthomas025]

@@youtubeuser1052Terrible troll.

[@ricnyc2759]

Tipping is out of control. I like to help people and treat them well, but I think there must be a limit.

[@buckiemohawk3643]

you should tip for counter service at mcdonalds or an eatery

[@jonathanrouse]

I set a tip allowance and after that no one else gets tipped.

[@Brayness]

There is a limit; you choose how much to tip lol

[@Slotten68]

I think what everyone is talking about is being asked to tip at a self serve coffee shop for being handed an empty cup in the same manner as a full service restaurant

[@mrpeepers541]

Get ready for much higher restaurant prices and indifferent service.

[@westclifftooker]

I’m sick of feeling forced to tip. It is a thing of gratitude for good service not for people doing the bare minimum of a

[@eduardochavacano]

We dont even give money to beggars on the street. Its like you are being served by beggars and it is depressing.

[@genxx2724]

In restaurants with a “fast casual” format (order and pay at the counter, put a number on your table, and runners drop the food off) they ask you to tip on the screen, but staff often makes no effort to EARN the tip that was paid up-front. They stand around talking instead of refilling drinks or checking to see what else you need. They should stick with a tip jar. If customers actually received some service, they can leave a couple of dollars on the table.

[@theeladyj]

Right

[@hobomike6935]

@@eduardochavacano you ARE being served by beggars. most of the working class has been reduced to a state of need by years of cost-of-living inflation, excessive taxes, and stagnant wages. even working 2-3 jobs you can't provide for yourself anymore. most people I know that are under 30 are having to live out of their cars or live 5 to a room because they didn't get a chance to secure a place to live back in the 90s and 2000s when it was possible to get a decent housing price.

[@jamesm568]

How are you being forced to tip. You don't tip period. Nobody has a legal right to make you tip. If a waiter or waitress confronts you about a tip most restaurants have a policy that they should be fired.

[@JRKZT]

ABOLISH TIPPING. Workers should be paid for their work done by the employer. Not paid based on luck.

[@hansle170]

At 13:50, it's said that 30-40% of servers want to keep tipping because they feel they make more than a regular salary.

[@jonton47]

​@hansle170 of course, that's what it has come to.

[@jennifermarie3158]

@@hansle170 They should stop lying to people and saying that it's because they're so poor and hard up then. Just admit that you want to make more money like we all do, and then people can decide if they want to pay hand over their hard earned cash to raise your salary. Everyone out there is struggling. It's entitled for servers to think that teachers who make $60k and are required to pay for university degrees for their jobs should be tipping them so that servers can make $70k.

[@dimplypaprika7693]

So if I understand this correctly, the sub minimum wage of $2.13 is allowed because it is understood that if the worker does not receive at least $5 in tips per hour then the business will supplement that amount. So basically, your tip actually does not benefit the worker as much as it benefits the business by saving that business from having to pay the worker the extra $5 per hour. Basically your tip is benefitting the business for the first $5/hr, then after that amount is reached, anything extra will benefit the workers? This sounds like a scam to me.

[@arthurzetes]

There’s a reason many people get tipped jobs. You make a lot more than minimum wage.

[@AsakuraAvan]

@@arthurzetes A LOT more

[@dynamichunter843]

Tip credit is literally a scam. We’re subsidizing business owners paying their own employees, not to mention auto gratuity, social shaming, and tipped workers also make more than they would elsewhere with their unskilled labor so they want to keep the system.

[@nnamdiobiako5773]

Bingo! The customers subsidize the restaurant

[@tallyp.7643]

I think you nailed it. It's ridiculous. And this business owner is super optimistic that people will tip well when they receive good service. No, a$$holes will do their best to pay as little as possible because they need to feel superior for a bit and even if the service was excellent, they're not gonna tip accordingly. They'll drop a dollar on the table and laugh at the look on the server's face as the server tries to keep their composure on seeing it (I've seen it a couple of times.) We've seen the pictures on social media of fake money left behind or receipts with no tip and rude messages written on them. People work better when they have that pressure valve loosened a bit, and in this case, employers paying a living wage to servers rather than depending on the whims of customers to do it for them would make it better for the company AND the staff. Tipping should've gone out the window ages ago.

[@q_branch_]

I've made numerous business trips to Europe and I have even had extended (+6 month) stints for my job. It's pretty simple, the price you see is the price you pay - no tipping (you can, if you want to), no hospitality charges, and no guesses for tax. I can't understand why that's such a hard concept to grasp and implement in America.

[@simonmaduxx6777]

It's because American business wants to fleece you for every penny they can get. Rip off culture. Of course they know tipping sucks. But they can't help think about the millions and millions of pennies they are going to 'lose'

[@TheSmark666]

There is no "doing away" with tipping as it is a voluntary act. A person is only legally obligated to satisfy their debt in the full amount by paying their bill for a service rendered. However, nobody is required by any statute, bylaw, regulation, ordinance, rule, or regulation to engage in the act that is colloquially referred to as "tipping." I cannot understand why people do not comprehend such a simple thing. It's astonishing to think about just how slow-witted the American public generally is when it comes to the most mundane nonsense of everyday life. Makes me wonder how people are able to get themselves ready in the morning and then proceed to operate a half-ton metal box on four-wheels without perishing on the way into a meaningless office job.

[@phatmusic]

Greed

[@andrewe.7907]

And the quality of service is usually lower than the quality of service here. But I do feel like I'm making out as a consumer b/c I don't have to pay added tips which usually would make my bill higher here than it is on an equivalent meal over in Europe.

[@peter65zzfdfh]

@@TheSmark666it’s clear the only people that benefit from tipping the are those that don’t tip. Everyone else is tipping for them.

[@Xcbru]

Once Starbucks started asking for a tip IN THE DRIVE THROUGH. I knew it had gone to far.

[@EldePHX]

Facts

[@tallyp.7643]

Seriously? Wow. I'd seen screens that have the tip window and figured it was just built into the software and not removed. When you're behind the counter and not bussing tables and checking on customers constantly, why get the tip? And those guys get paid better than I do on base wage!

[@Wastinglotsoftime]

At least they ask you. My local Starbucks takes your card and automatically tips themselves. They get away with it by advertising it.

[@tallyp.7643]

@@Wastinglotsoftime Wow. Seems today was the perfect day to research and re-work my budget and spending with the cash-envelope system next year. I've grown to hate cards and shopping with one makes it so easy to accidentally overspend with fees or missed transactions. Voluntold tipping? No thanks.

[@Ginger30161]

Agreed, and many of the baristas were the ones protesting for an increase in minimum wage.

[@richardcarlin1332]

tipping should go away. Restaurants should pay staff the true value of a job and charge the true price of a meal.

[@Ratniko]

I’m from Eastern Europe and I was a waitress for a while. It’s wild that servers in America get upset when they don’t get tipped, and they almost demand it from the customer. Why aren’t they redirecting that anger towards the government or the owner of the restaurant?

[@eatass5627]

Because they would be fired or told to quit they have no leverage against the employer

[@AO-kr9kd]

​@@eatass5627 That's what they tell you. And how does a company make its money if they dont have employees? You think they will last? Employers need people, it's not one sided. You think labor laws, came from people who think like you do? Ppl need to stand up and speak out.

[@soberanisfam1323]

Bc they are cowards

[@bad_writer]

Because the government and the employer are not stupid pushovers like the customers

[@xavierwashington5408]

Thank you

[@stansanders6959]

Other countries don’t require tips and somehow they manage to pay their staff. The psychological twist that is used is “we will have to increase our prices” but that’s what a tip does. It makes the customer pay more or feel uncomfortable.

[@LongThanh-ew4tf]

They make $10 to $30 in many countries, not $200 to $300

[@lkjkhfggd]

There is no "it makes the customer pay more" with tipping. If you pay the standard %, then you pay the exact same amount in either scenario. At the tipping place you pay $20 and a $4 tip. At the no tipping place you pay $24 and no tip (higher price with no tip). It's the exact same thing so who cares.

[@JesusCliment]

​@@lkjkhfggd Obviously we do care, otherwise we would not be having this conversation. It is a struggle, sometimes, when we have to decide how much is worth the service we received. And it is even a bigger struggle when the service was not good, and we still have to pay for the living wage of the person. If a person is providing a bad service, it should be a question to be resolved between the person and the manager, not the person and the tipping person. And we also care that prices have gone up, and ALSO tipping percentage has gone up. 35%? WTAF? Also, tourists care. They are sometimes oblivious about the tipping culture. As a first time tourist in NYC, a waiter followed me on the street because my 10% tip was not enough. What a show.

[@lkjkhfggd]

@@JesusCliment how about you stop thinking about it so much. If the service was bad, tip nothing. If service was meh, tip 15%, if it was average, tip 20%, if you rich and want to, tip more. There you go, 3(4) options. You don't need to concern yourself with their "living wages". If they aren't making enough, then they can figure out what changes they need to make to fix it. Not your problem.

[@JesusCliment]

@@lkjkhfggd what about I just pay the frickin price that is written in the menu and do not have to bother with 10, 15, or 20%?

[@nagelixin]

Tipping is something we do not do in Australia. The minimum wage here is $23.23 per hour. Some restaurants here have a tipping option the majority of us refuse. Pay your staff well.

[@nonayabusiness6170]

Trust me, I wish we could do that here as well, but that would bust the restaurant's menu prices.

[@dhootparm]

why would it do that when it does not do that anywhere else in the world?@@nonayabusiness6170

[@RoundBaguette]

Lies@@nonayabusiness6170

[@ashleighsparkle8810]

Mind your own business. Did your government let you out of your homes yet?

[@sarahyu3065]

I think the overwhelming majority of consumers in America would not mind restaurant prices going up if it meant no longer having to tip. We are already paying on average about 20% (plus 3% and other fees for healthcare for the workers in California) on top of listed prices in restaurants. Often times that can be on top of sales tax too. The “you pay lower prices because of the lower hourly wage” statement is a bit of a myth if you think about it that way. Also, as someone who has traveled quite a bit, I can’t help but notice that food prices at restaurants is not THAT much more at many restaurants abroad, yet they pay their waiters more than we pay the waiters here in America I’ve seen many waiters in America on the other hand complain that they make more than $23.23 an hour in tips, so I am unsure how many waiters would give up the current system for a set wage even if, in my opinion, $23.23 is more than fair for a waiter/waitress wage.

[@Michael-yi4mc]

I’m cooking at home to spare the humiliation of being begged for a tip. It upsets my stomach and lose my appetite.

[@TaiwanKC]

I used to live in the US for 4 years, and the tipping was a nightmare for me and always had this anxiety before end of each meal, it was so bad that I avoid eating in the restaurants whenever I could, because I was no longer enjoying the food in any restaurants.

[@ricochetx]

I'm sorry to hear this was your experience. On a personal level for me, it's never really a question or cause of anxiety. If I'm at a full service, sit-down restaurant, the tip is nearly always 20%. Simple calculation at the end.

[@johnjones3813]

What are you talking about? Nervous?

[@TaiwanKC]

Thanks for all these feedback, just to clarify it, when I eat in a restaurant in my country (Taiwan), I normally won’t let a waiter/waitress attitude affect my mood. When I was in an American restaurant,I will start to think I need to evaluate their performance and keep thinking are they doing good or bad? Should I tip more or can I tip less? It might just me but this thought really took my focus out of the food and just keep worrying about what should I tip at the end of the meal.

[@mex5341]

@@TaiwanKC that's true

[@DS-nv2ni]

Just don't tip, is stupid, I never did when I went for vacation, and nobody complained, or if they did, I've never noticed.

[@sincityquinn]

They tell the worker…”No one is forcing you to work for 2.13.” But they don’t tell the business, “If you can’t provide a liveable or decent wage, no one is forcing you to keep that business open.”

[@chickenfishhybrid44]

They're not working for $2.13 because their pay with tips at the end of the day must meet the federal minimum wage at least.

[@kassdremusic]

@@chickenfishhybrid44not the customers problem!

[@dannylopez5515]

That’s bc that type of work used to be for high schoolers and ppl who were going to college bc it’s not skilled labor everyone can learn it if they are trained for a week and then after ppl would graduate they would quit and go onto a skilled job or ppl would go into trade jobs. But now everyone wants easy jobs were they don’t have to think to much but then complain about a low wage.

[@phanders6236]

@@dannylopez5515 that theory has been debunked time and time again everyone claiming there is "no skill" required for these types of jobs.

[@Jayjayb1]

@@chickenfishhybrid44 tip is not guaranteed some customers don’t rip.

[@thetowerfantasymusic]

Tipping just means that your boss isn't paying your salary and you rely on strangers to pay it. If you can't afford to pay your works, CLOSE UP! You shouldn't be in business !!!!! In Europe the company pays your salary, 14 times per year (12 + Christmas + Vacations)

[@AnimeBeefRandoms]

Your customers are always paying for your salary. What are you talking about?

[@jcheng1981]

I'm willing to pay more if that part goes into wages

[@bherber]

Good workers will get a 25% tip... Also a lot of these workers still get way more than they would at home in Latin American than in the United States. Wake up

[@John_C149]

You’re absolutely right! Restaurants should raise their prices high enough to cover you non-tipping morons. Either way you’ll still pay.

[@jamesschoi87]

It is always the customers paying for your salary lol

[@leahparker9033]

Restaurant owner says he would have to raise prices to pay his employees a decent wage? I would rather pay a set price than have to pay a tip. I believe there are a lot of people that would agree with me.

[@B3Band]

Turns out many of the employees themselves don't agree. The video stated that workers in no tip restaurants leave to go to traditional restaurants in order to receive tips. It has to be everybody, not just a few random restaurants. The businesses know they can save money and attract employees by making the customers pay the wages.

[@leahparker9033]

@@B3Band I am throwing up my hands and just not eating out at all anymore. Homemade is cheaper and better for me anyway.

[@DRv88293]

My family owned a BBQ restaurant which flopped, It is and isn't the restaurants owners fault it's the fact the every property near a attention spot like a main road is worth 1-10million and every lease agreement wants like 5-15k a month which varies by location, plus you have freezer rooms and fridges eating your electric bill plus your buying meats and vegs and seasonings from sources that also raise there prices and insurance on everything for protection, You could appear busy and completely get hammered with cashflow vs profit by picking the perfect expensive location or a bad affordable location but there are expenses that just make zero sense that you might have overlooked when starting off which feels like paying more than what you're making. Btw the food prices are set to accommodate the waiters minimum wage difference so the food prices already hiked for that.... There's just no way a small pop restaurant could stay in business in populated areas unless there are a franchise with marketing behind them or you have an excellent agreement on your lease or own the property or you own another successful restaurant/business to pick up your slack until u have system in place that works.

[@leahparker9033]

@@DRv88293 I understand that running a restaurant is an expensive proposition, but surely it's also expensive in countries where restaurant employees aren't tipped and their wages come out of prices charged for food (not merely the accommodation for the minimum wage difference)?

[@jasonwhitley3751]

You know who wouldn't agree with you? Tipped workers. They literally don't care what they get paid hourly. Their tips are MUCH more than they would make if they were being paid their states non tipped minimum wage. If they weren't, they could just get a different job.

[@BernhardWelzel]

It is disgusting to hear the argument "it is hard to change" when all of the developed world already has a solution: Pay a living wage and make tips optional. Also establish an European style of health insurance when you are seriously about ending slavery in the US. It is not rocket science.

[@vibe_tube3634]

Trust me rocket science is easier

[@BobJones-nk6nl]

if everyone gets a livable wage (whatever your definition is) regardless of his/her skill set, then there would be no need to go to college or to learn any skills at all. It's not rocket science at all.

[@darinherrick9224]

​@@BobJones-nk6nl Except all the reasons why rich people go to college. 1. Prestige. 2. Complex career. 3. To benefit others. 4. To rise in rank. 5. Social status. 6. Education for education's sake. 7. Job requirements for job they actually want to do. 8. Curiousity. 9. Increased income above the minimum. If you hadn't already thought about this...uhh...how old are you?

[@johnjones3813]

And people wonder how we could have possibly had slavery in this country.

[@BernhardWelzel]

@@BobJones-nk6nl I am truly sorry, but this is a very toxic belief. I agree that people should not need to go to college to learn any skills. People want to learn, in order to improve their lives and to be able to care and serve others. So you perfectly summarised what is so deeply wrong and toxic about american culture and how at the root society it is designed to be a system of slavery. Force people to work and consume as much as possible - in order to ensure that they stay in poverty. I understand that "livable wage" would improve the living conditions of many many people in the country, but it would not take away the incentive to work - just getting by might be enough for a minority in society, but most people want to have a better life for themselves and their families.

[@deucefly1062]

I don't have a problem with tipping when I go into a restaurant, sit down and eat. My problem is being forced or strongly encouraged to tip when I do takeout.

[@hymmj147]

Agreed. It's nonsensical to tip when I've walked/driven to the restaurant and I haven't even tasted the food yet.

[@aaronoutdoors7556]

Kinda funny how restaurants raise thier prices but as soon as you ask them to pay a decent wage it’s “poor little unprofitable me, can’t afford it, your food will be super expensive”

[@NazriBuang-w9v]

Lies again? HDB Paris USD SGD

[@tharealKDHD]

Yup. Restaurants by me have raised prices to insane ludicrous amounts, even a 2 person meal at mcdonalds is almost $40 now. They are making a killing while paying employees nothing

[@nicolasceresoli9121]

​@@tharealKDHD somewhat true, but inflation also affects both parties unless if you are a big corporation with tax breaks or some government benefited entity. Even the common franchise owners are getting their piece of despair on the inflation problem, however, I am still against the tipping culture because they redirect the responsibility on the customer's back to divert their wage adjustment responsibility.

[@kevine6082]

I will tip you if you give me extra good service but if all you’re gonna do is drop off my food and pour my drink, then as far as I’m concerned, you’re just doing your job

[@alipetuniashow]

Exactly

[@erikfm77]

Agreed. People have to work for their tips 🤷

[@jlolo33321]

Did you watch the video? I feel like you just read the title and wanted to announce to the world you don't tip people

[@Beautyfulgemini5]

My thoughts exactly

[@jamesmcluvlee]

@@jlolo33321 that’s all

[@AliColak]

I’ve worked as a server before. I feel tipping just encourages businesses to cut corners on salaries. Tips should be a bonus not a means of how you make your living

[@b.b.s7545]

The whole economy needs to change. So many factors. Some government officials make too much money. A lot of money goes to Hollywood, NBA, NFL, CEOS....

[@KingGovan91]

Hollywood, CEO, & sports players have nothing to do with these restaurants underpaying their employees.

[@steveevans7805]

like it is here we dont tip but minimum wage is like £9 an hour or something i dunno im a higher earner. but i sometimes tip on my birthday it normally is refused like ewwww we aren't trashy americans who must depend on the kindness of strangers to survive

[@Mysiamesecatblue]

To the owner: if you are charging 12-15$ a plate and still can’t pay more than 2.50, something wrong with that business model

[@johndoe-wv3nu]

$12-$15? That's McDonald's money!

[@bills.1390]

@@johndoe-wv3nu : Mexican food is cheaper to make than McDonald's.

[@johndoe-wv3nu]

@bills.1390 actually most food is cheaper to make at home than McDonald's. I have chili and pulled pork in my fridge. Both meals are less than $1 a serving. I bake bread, I shop sales. I frequently utilize my freezer. I feed two for around $300/mo. It was $200 but prices have increased and I'm waiting for the prices to stabilize to have a concrete number. We eat all our meals, drinks and snacks at home.

[@KingSally92]

@@bills.1390fuck no, im from the Bay area and a freaking burrito average price is $16 and canned sodas around $3. I can afford but imagine folks that cant.

[@LazyTeeRex]

That sucks but I still don't tip unless I know they went the distance. Otherwise, you get a "thank you" with a smile 👌🏼

[@Jack31063]

Seems like the entire world has figured out a no-tipping system, except for the US. Dear US citizens, please travel abroad and you will see how tipping is absolutely not required anywhere, and nobody will look down on you for not tipping. And the audacity of that restaurant owner to put it on the customer to provide a living wage for his employees is mind-blowing. Pay your workers a living wage, the rest of the world has figured it out

[@victoralejandrotrimmerestr3672]

the us trying to be unique but fail miserably in many ways, farenheit, measuring things with feet, month day year calendar, taxes not shown in prices

[@mmoarchives2542]

you kidding, you think tipping is required in the us?

[@victoralejandrotrimmerestr3672]

@@mmoarchives2542 it kinda is, i know people who got yelled at by the owner of a restaurant for not tipping

[@marklouis1890]

Absolutely

[@marklouis1890]

​@@mmoarchives2542it is, especially restaurants

[@akashprasad5750]

As a consumer, I don’t think I have to pay anything above what I legally owe. What I legally owe is written on the check, which very well reflects the price of services I received.

[@Maclyn88]

I went to a restaurant/brewery JUST to grab a 6 pack and they charged me the automatic 20% service fee and then asked what percent I wanted to tip‼️ All I did was grab a 6 pack! I thought it was ridiculous enough I got charged the service fee then almost felt insulted when a tip was basically requested 🙄

[@abuhaile6517]

They also want tips in coffee shops and carry out restaurants .

[@Maclyn88]

@@abuhaile6517 they forgot tips are for full service and Not just a simple transaction!

[@djm2189]

Insane! I'd expressly have them remove it and if not 1 star review

[@istvankovacs4154]

I probably would have told them that: "Nah, I changed my mind. I don't want this 6 pack anymore. Bye."

[@SourDonut99]

You will probably hate the restaurant that charges you 20% automatically and pay their workers well. It's a tough issue. The best solution is just have those workers negotiate something better or quit.

[@ebell1476]

If you can’t run a business and pay a living wage you don’t have a viable business plan plain and simple. The restaurant industry shouldn’t be exempt from this. Pay your workers or find another way to make your money without exploiting people financially.

[@NoobTrader-yc2td]

Plain and simple, please show us how it's done

[@ashishpatel350]

usually means the employee is worthless.

[@gtn9]

They'll soon run out of business, Forget Tips the Basic Wage would become a distinct dream..

[@kineticstar]

​@NoobTrader-yc2td it's easy to increase the price of food with a plain notice to customers that the increase is due to giving a living wage to your employees. This is how it works everywhere else in the world. And don't @ me like I'm from someone who doesn't know business or as a foreigner. I own a business here in Texas where I have to pay 100 people a wage. I even used my own money and didn't take the covid loans because I thought other people needed it more. I slept in my office and sold off alot of stuff I didn't need so I could make sure my workers kids were not affected. Don't throw shade when you are not trying to adjust or try.

[@Dr.Kananga]

Restaurants answer is:"If you can't afford to eat out and tip, then don't bother" the most counterproductive reaction ever.

[@dademurphey1753]

What sucks in my opinion is when I spend 120 dollars at smashing crab and I’m expected to pay around 30 bucks for tip when the server literally just went to the kitchen and brought me my food. But if I go eat at a Mexican restaurant and my total comes out to 30 dollars and only have to tip about 6 bucks when the server did basically the same exact thing as the server at smashin crab. That’s the stuff I struggle with when eating out. I’m already paying over a hundred dollars so why should I have to tip so much just because the food costs more but the service is exactly the same as a way cheaper meal.

[@nahor88]

They didn't even mention one of the worse dimensions of tipping; PEER-PRESSURE. Tipping is so ingrained into American culture, that your peers will judge you if they catch you leaving a low tip. On more than one occasion, I've gotten food with a random group of peers/friends, and had someone peek at my tab and say "yo only 15%?". 😖

[@jordanconnor1223]

As you say now imagine the case if the expense place is busy and the small business is dead, I would rather tip 30 small business and 6 busy to make up for others 😂

[@mrshan1]

Exactly!!!!

[@hansolo6827]

I tip by how much work the server did. And how nice they were. That $120 smashing crab example, $10 MAXXX

[@aliciabuchanan7080]

Because the government assumes they are getting 15 percent on every order so if you only tip 6 on a 130 worth of food that server has to pay to serve you. The system is broken. Taxes should be based on actual tips and not assumed ones.

[@thaoeverytime]

I used to see 8 10 or 12 percent tip. At most was 18%. Now it's 18-30% tip. I don't even go out to eat anymore. I would rather cook or go to restaurant that doesn't require insane tipping.

[@jasonwhitley3751]

What world do you live in where restaurants require tipping? Not to mention require tipping a certain percent? That is literally not a thing. Tipping has always been and will always be optional. It's optional whether or not you tip at all and the amount you tip is also optional.

[@jasonwhitley3751]

What world do you live in where restaurants require tipping? Not to mention require tipping a certain percent? That is literally not a thing. Tipping has always been and will always be optional. It's optional whether or not you tip at all and the amount you tip is also optional.

[@ewaleokadia76]

I work at Shake Shack and I sometimes feel uncomfortable when I am the cashier for that day. Before anyone can pay by credit card, the guest has to check the button for no tip, 10 percent, 15 percent or other before being able to pay😞.

[@Slotten68]

You know what prevents people from getting an extra drink at dinner or entertaining a dessert? The extra 20 bucks you need to tip at the end. People would willingly spend more money at a restaurant if they didnt have tons of hidden guilt charges and the restaurant could afford to pay their workers

[@makatron]

You really have to tip, it's completely optional. It feels awesome.

[@heychrisfox]

@@makatron Homie, your response was so drunk I don't even think you meant to say what you meant to say.

[@makatron]

@@heychrisfox damn now that I I re read that, sounds awful 🤣

[@Slotten68]

@makatron Yeah bro. I wasn't sure either 🤔

[@makatron]

@@Slotten68 I decided to own my mistake and leave it unedited, just so people know better and at least have some coffee before commenting on KZbin. 🤣

[@gustavlantz]

As a European the whole concept of tips being a crucial part of workers ability to make a living is so confusing. And when I hear anyone saying "Its complicated raising wages and removing the tips" sounds just absurd. This is normal ANYWHERE ELSE. If you run a business; PAY YOUR EMPLOYEES. I pay for a product/service which should include your total costs and profit INCLUDING LABOR COSTS. Its really not very complicated at all.

[@ashleighsparkle8810]

It’s not your business for one. And for 2 as a server myself, I like the system because I make 3 times what your servers do. I also like it as a consumer myself because our food is cheaper, larger portions, and service is light years better.

[@gustavlantz]

@@ashleighsparkle8810 I have an opinion on the topic, I'm not saying this is what the US has to do. Simply stating the fact that US is the only country with this system which other countries see as odd. And while you can do whatever you like, it still does not negate the fact that is defies any normal business logic. And yes, you are right, US has larger portions than any other countries. You dont need these huge portions though. And yes its also cheaper. But for your sake; Lets not compare what US produced food is made of vs other countries. And as for service level, I think that is for one; highly depending on where and what to compare to and what one would define as service.

[@joey-pn3xe]

People in the USA are a strange bunch!

[@redwolfexr]

The issue is servers tend to make a lot more than MW in tips, you notice the lady said she could make $300 a day? So the "good" servers will quit and go to where they make tips if you try to force them to "give up" the tips. People are USED to tipping, so they will STILL tip even if the wages are increased. (you have to FORCE them NOT to tip and many Americans resent being told what to do) "headwinds" is what they called it.... So if you try to change the world on your own you lose your good employees, increase prices over competitors, and have upset customers. I go to a Australian owned coffee shop, for a long time they just didn't have a tipping window on their payment screen and didn't have a tip jar. They finally gave in to customers who WANTED to tip. This is a place that brings your coffee to the table and also cleans the table when you leave. (anyone in Dallas knows the chain I am talking about -LDU) When they had one place they held firm, but then expanded to multiple locations.

[@moimtz]

@@ashleighsparkle8810 Highly doubt you make 3 times as much.

[@martief1st]

I just returned from a trip to spain. We spent a week eating out for every meal and didn’t tip once, no tip prompts at every cashier, nothing…. It was glorious

[@arnolddavies6734]

Just like the rest of the world outside of America.

[@marcospark2803]

Because waiters in Spain earn a bigger salary

[@ccutehoney]

Yep a livable wage, having a house to live and social services that provide ( insurance, child care and others) can really make a difference

[@BusArch42]

We just went to France and honestly prices were close to the same as where we live in the usa but no tip meant it was actually cheaper

[@anjalE30]

All these piece if crap greedy companies want us to pay their employees! If youre not a full service waitress/waiter, door dasher etc, I'm NOT TIPPING! Pay your employees !!!

[@samjeffs7396]

" we can't afford to pay a higher hourly wage, if we did we would have to pass that onto the customer and pay more" Is it just me, or is this the exact same as expecting the customers to pay the wages of the staff via a tip.

[@Apollo440]

it is. And "If the client doesn't pay the servers minimum wage (and we don't either) - we don't have to care and we don't".

[@jazzyj6640]

Yup.

[@brucel4378]

That's just a lame excuse.

[@Milther2]

It is, but one is giving the customer the option (ie not tipping). If the food costs more, they might not come back, and that would overall be bad for the business Tricky situation all around

[@Apollo440]

@@Milther2 consider this - let the government handle all payments to their people. And the company pay all what's due through taxes.

[@NHJDT]

Ive been in Korea for two months and its so refreshing eating out. The price of the meal is all that is charged. No more buying a pretzel and them expecting a tip. No more credit card payment screens with the cashier staring at me and asking me to check a box on the percentage tip i want to pay. Meals cost 40-60% of what they cost in the US and also no tip

[@jml9550]

Well the cashier can stare all they want, they are not getting a tip in take out. If you want a better pay job, get a better pay job somewhere else.

[@Mwoods2272]

Actually that's everywhere in the world except North America.

[@aerodynamicist4]

Honestly the irony here is that Asian Americans (In the U.S.) seem to be the absolute most offended that you don't leave a tip

[@jml9550]

@@aerodynamicist4 I live in a heavy Asian populated area, SF Bay Area and I am Asian. Most of them don’t expect a tip on take out. On dine in I tip mostly 15% and never have any issue.

[@LucasDimoveo]

@@jml9550this is a brutal way to think about the world. Very few would work a job like that if there were other options, and even then, if everyone could find some other employment at the same time, you would be left having to make your own food and drinks at home

[@michaelbarrett9107]

I never had a huge issue with tipping restaurant workers. I have an issue tipping everyone and their mother. Why do I have to tip at the airport after picking up my own sandwich from the shelf? Why do I have to tip at an automated car wash in which I vacuum and detail the rest of the car after? Why do I have to tip at a Buffett where I serve myself? What’s next? Tip the self-checkout at Walmart. I’m share the execs and shareholders love the blindness that some people have when it comes to this.

[@carolr7823]

Either pay your workers a fair wage or close. Other countries pay their servers fair wages and the price of food is not that much more.

[@quippy8402]

Employers should just pay for proper wage. The restaurant should list and charge exactly how much a customer should be paying at the end, with proper amount of service charges and tax included in the list prices. Only in US, wages for restaurant workers have become such an externality and burden for patrons.

[@dimmmmmmmm]

agree, but then no one would pay $28 for a grilled cheese. store closes. doom loop engages. downtown blight takes off. this is all because the cost of living is too high. fix that and tipping doesn't have to be a thing anymore.

[@kat.8730]

Hm it seems to work in other parts of the world like Europe

[@DrugDealer541]

Yeah, bring back tipping only being expected for exceptional and great work. Not for EVERY interaction.

[@TheSmark666]

There is no "doing away" with tipping as it is a voluntary act. A person is only legally obligated to satisfy their debt in the full amount by paying their bill for a service rendered. However, nobody is required by any statute, bylaw, regulation, ordinance, rule, or regulation to engage in the act that is colloquially referred to as "tipping." I cannot understand why people do not comprehend such a simple thing. It's astonishing to think about just how slow-witted the American public generally is when it comes to the most mundane nonsense of everyday life. Makes me wonder how people are able to get themselves ready in the morning and then proceed to operate a half-ton metal box on four-wheels without perishing on the way into a meaningless office job.

[@Oneofakind123]

@@dimmmmmmmmI really don't get that argument. The customer pay the same, it's just stated at the menu...

[@sagefi1]

I'm sick of all the tipping. At Starbucks recently, asking for a tip before i even receive any service, then waiting forever while employees seem to be doing very little. Asking for a tip upon ordering takeout online when I'm picking it up at a drive through. A tip should be extra for great service. Not some kind of expectation. I dislike the serious increase in tipping expectation post-covid with corresponding drop in service.

[@PleiadianArcturian888]

You are an idiot if you tip in the first place.

[@enfreakez]

Quit getting Starbucks! It just coffee people, I have a machine at home that does that job.

[@landiserla3668]

Starbucks got rid of their annoying tipping prompts, at least in ones i been to. Many other restaurants still have it @@enfreakez

[@sagefi1]

@enfreakez I rarely go to Starbucks or any similar place, but I'm also not at home 24/7. Sometimes I'm actually out in the world, and sometimes that means meeting with people at various places that include coffee shops. Starbucks happens to be one of those places. I would never go there by myself unless i was traveling and wanted a coffee and that was the only reasonable option.

[@nelcomargaming6612]

We allowed it. If more people would stop going then this changes.

[@mikeshafer]

I'm suffering from tip exhaustion now. I don't even want to go to out to get a coffee anymore because they are always asking for tips. We need to end tipping in the US. We can do better.

[@Maclyn88]

For real 🙄 I've stopped just grabbing a bottled beer at a bar because you're expected to tip because it's a bar, but it's more like a transaction than a service when all you did was literally hand me a beer outta a fridge that's right behind you 😐

[@Trini190]

Forreal like Starbucks its crazy

[@Trini190]

And the fact starbucks wants you to tip before your coffee is even made is crazy to me

[@MateoMan1]

That's the great thing about they tipping system. You have a choice. The poor folk can tip a lower percentage and those can afford it will pay higher. We pay either way. If there are no tips then the food is more expensive. But I do agree I am not giving some fastfood worker a tip for handing me my food.

[@COURTNEYVCK]

I don’t understand the tipping at Starbucks and other places where you go in to pick up your own food. I have no problem tipping at a sit down restaurant tho.

[@PhilipWong55]

In the U.S., a waiter may chase you if you don’t tip, while in China, they might chase you to return a tip.

[@user-sf5bt8eb4y]

why does the U.S do things so differently? for the rest of the world, the prices in the menu are exactly what you pay(all inclusive) and no tip is required(unless you really want to) There are even some countries whereby tipping is considered rude and an insult

[@handleyobusiness]

US residents should mind their own business and only worry about what’s going on over here than in some other foreign country. That’s our problem now

[@tiamystic]

Idk man…

[@sotonin]

It's because slave labor is fine in the US. they do not actually care about their employees it's just like cattle. Unless a law is made raising that $ it will never change companies will try to weasel out of paying a living wage until they are forced to do it.

[@hgdvl8811]

Maybe corporate lobbyists had something to do with IRS Laws on tipped employees. Maybe to be able to pay less wages and government to get more tax money.

[@Aoskar95]

Runaway capitalism. Yes, the US is the largest economy, but it has come at the price of living standards

[@leonwizard5]

I was asked to tip at an automatic car wash the other day……. Gotta love this country.

[@joernh837]

1:03 Well, yes. Please pass it off to the customer and cut this excess in tipping. Just like about any other country on earth does. Because paying 20% or more in tips doesn’t make eating out cheaper for the customers

[@YdenMk-II]

Exactly this. You say you don't want to pass it off to the customer when you already are passing it off so you don't have to directly pay your employees the normal min wage.

[@deana5277]

so if the minimum wage goes from 7.25 to 15 an hour...u can be sure that prices of food and drinks will go way higher then 20%

[@ashleighsparkle8810]

@luke5100 But we are already making a good wage with the current system. Why do you all act like you are advocating for us? You aren’t!

[@deana5277]

@luke5100 i can tell you most of us servers would much rather have tips then switch to a "livable wage"

[@NoHomerS]

The tipping system in the USA is disgusting. This is why I am so sick and tired of tipping. If enough people stop tipping entirely, businesses and politicians will notice and they will make some changes. And there may be some unintended consequences.

[@imjustsaying364]

It is ridiculous to expect patrons to subsidize restaurants by paying the servers salaries.

[@ThePoliticalBulldog]

That's the wealthy for ya, constantly waging class warfare against the rest of us.

[@johntracy72]

We already do by our purchases as it is.

[@slimdude2011]

@@johntracy72 If a waiter or a waitress are providing the customers good service when they're dining in a nice restaurant, there's nothing wrong leaving a tip for them, when knowing they're not making that much money on their base pay. The servers depend on their tips to make a decent wage because that's how they make their money. Not from their base rate! If a person has extra hundreds, thousands or even millions of dollars, and don't want to give a server at tip whenever they are dining at a nice restaurant, they're being a cheapskate. If people can afford to pay $60.00 or more for a good meal, then most certainly they can afford to leave a tip for their server. Personally, I wouldn't want anybody to even think that I was that cheap!

[@imjustsaying364]

@@slimdude2011 my point is I have no problem tipping for good service. It is after all a gratuity. To tell me that I MUST tip because the restaurant does not pay a living wage is antiquated. All businesses should be paying at least minimum wage, WHY are restaurants not paying at LEAST minimum wage? All other legal businesses require this, why not restaurants. Tipping used to be necessary because when it started, restaurants did not pay servers, they worked for tips only. Now they should receive wages.

[@zachjones2346]

@@imjustsaying364 Tipping isn't mandatory. If you can't afford to tip, don't eat out. If you have a problem with this, then don't be mad at the restaurant for not paying servers more because clearly you have an issue with paying more too. You are no better.

[@willaustin5751]

Customers are not responsible for paying workers. That is the Employer’s job !!

[@B3Band]

Turns out many of the employees themselves don't agree. The video stated that workers in no tip restaurants leave to go to traditional restaurants in order to receive tips. It has to be everybody, not just a few random restaurants. The businesses know they can save money and attract employees by making the customers pay the wages.

[@EyeoftheTiger1031]

🔥

[@leonmeyers7009]

I even stopped going to Starbucks at all because of tipping. Insufferable at this point!

[@InvestingWithAdamK]

Funny you say that. I bought a $2.67 coffee at Starbucks and paid with a card. The machine prompted if I wanted to give a $2, $3 or $5 tip

[@Striker50_]

I just visited a restaurant where the tablet STARTS with a 18% tip! then 20, and 25%@@InvestingWithAdamK

[@slomo4672]

​@@InvestingWithAdamKscrew that. No tips 🖕

[@irinab7524]

I don’t go restaurants at all any more - service is horrible, menu get cut in comparison to 2019 and overall experience is sad. Tips included in the check is absurd

[@kicksomeup6998]

I don't eat out at restaurants or order anything anymore. I only go to buffets, where tips are not expected. I don't go to any stores were bagging and ringing expects tips, if they don't have auto-checkout. I order my stuff from Amazon, where I don't ever need to and have never tipped, since none of them are tipped workers. Not a single Amazon driver has ever asked me for a tip, but if one ever does, I will tell them that they are not tipped workers and that I would not buy from a company that hires tipped workers as a matter of principle, since that just means they don't want to pay their workers and are abusing the laws. Dogged persistence will lead to corporate getting involved. Tipping is not about helping the worker, it is about perpetuating the idea that it is okay to remain in business while underpaying your staff. You wouldn't get away with stealing a loaf of bread in this country, but stealing workers' wages is not even a crime in most instances and in red states, even legalized. Wage thefts vastly surpassed burglaries in America and have for years now been the biggest financial crime in the history of this country. Tipped workers are just like us, the should get paid higher wages and if they don't do the job well, they should be put on an improvement plan or fired just like the rest of us. Grovelling for tips leads to a toxic workplace and is the most inhumane thing a human being can be made to endure, it affects their self-respect. Hopefully the UAW strike takes care of this.

[@diegor.dem.5846]

I live in France, and here we DONT tip, you only tip when you are extremely happy with the service. The restaurants employees have a decent salary, obviously included in the price of the food, but at least is clear, you only pay the price in the menu and that’s it ! And that’s the way it should be

[@alexangel9374]

After traveling last week through france,germany and Switzerland and not having to tip that felt great… price difference between these countries wasn’t big. So if they really want to pay a livable wage in the US they can do that… the problem is that the restaurant industry does not want to do that. Im tired of the pathetic excuse that they dont want to pass the cost to the customers….

[@enticingmay435]

Exactly. It’s all just excuses, prices have gone up like crazy these past few years which has resulted in record profits, but these business owners can’t pay their employees a living wage? And I think that goes towards everything else here in America. Most politicians and their supporters saying that taxes will go up if we give everyone free healthcare and college….as if we already aren’t being taxed to death without getting anything back from the government.

[@kjp8196]

Exactly this. When you travel a lot you see the food prices are actually cheaper than US and they are able to pay their servers fair amount with 0 reliance on tips. I was flabbergasted when I was in Switzerland and that felt cheap since there’s no added tip/tax on top of the listed food price.

[@shaclo1512]

but you should tip 10% in those countries.

[@triadwarfare]

​​@@shaclo1512no you should not. They don't need it. You can tip if they did a great job. But no one should be forced to do it or feel guilty if you don't leave a tip.

[@mlw9195]

@@shaclo1512no you shouldn’t 😂. They literally don’t expect a tip they’ll take it but it’s already included in the bill

[@Striker50_]

Restaurants are making you feel Guilty now 1 place calls it a "living wage adjustment" and adds on *18% to your bill automatically* Starbucks also asking for Tips in the Drive-Thru now!?!

[@buckiemohawk3643]

i disagree with starbucks tipping its bs

[@kikitx]

if you use apps to pay it will automatically skip the process.

[@BeatKiller81]

I only tip where there’s servers. If you’re a cashier i aint tipping.

[@ipodtouch470]

@@BeatKiller81the ridiculous part is that the service a cashier and server provide isn’t much different. With the main difference being I walked your food to you and made lame small talk in hopes to get a tip.

[@baldeagle4710]

yeah i was in miami and they added a tip automatically. a lot of people will just miss that and tip ANOTHER 20%

[@khalidalali186]

I stopped paying tips, when I stopped eating out, back in 2018. Eating at home is way more fun and a lot cheaper. Buying groceries and cooking is really awesome. My monthly food expenses went down by almost 85%.

[@markdc1145]

Same here.

[@Yourbody_MYCHOICE]

Congrats learning how to feed yourself is an important skill to have

[@halfsourlizard9319]

How's your partner feel about not getting eaten out?

[@skyhawk4946]

We stopped eating out about 2 years ago in an effort to eat healthier. Prices at the restaurants when we stopped were getting crazy. Throw in if you go fast food, it's $15 to $20 for a $5 dollar value meal. No thanks. We enjoy cooking at home and we have more money to donate to the charities we want to.

[@handleyobusiness]

That’s the way to do it. Prepared food at restaurants are more expensive than groceries, even when you don’t tip.

[@ianandersen265]

I wish tipping would end for casinos entirely. Harassment by casino dealers and cocktail waitresses is ridiculous. These large corporations make billions and have large amounts of control over the local economy, and yet they refuse to give a living wage for their workers. Don't blame the gamblers. Blame the corporations!

[@Citizen-of-theworld]

The silly thing is that the customer ends up paying the same in the end, just that they get fooled into cheaper headline prices which are meaningless once tax and tip are added on. The net result is that server pay is highly variable and reliability of earnings very poor, with those working in expensive restaurants often doing very well, and low cost restaurant servers doing poorly; and this says very little about the actual quality of service since a fixed % is usually tagged on to the bill.

[@Apollo440]

Some customers end up paying, some don't. It's their choice, since tipping isn't mandatory.

[@Locutus]

I would be happy to pay slightly more, if I knew that the price was the price, no tips, no fees, no taxes separated, just built into the price.

[@djm2189]

If you provide a service, youll get tipped appropriately. If you dont provide a service and or gratuity is included you get nothing. Hate it? Change your job. Not my problem and i dont care. Life has choices, you aren't forced to be there. Welcome to life, it's not pretty.

[@Ziegfried82]

A huge portion of the US economy is fraudulent. The pricing structure is just one of many things!

[@prissylily25]

Exactly!!!! Like just make the prices higher so them people can get paid. It’s very wild.

[@snacking5908]

Tipping allows companies to not pay their employees a fair wage while charging consumers extra. The prices would be exactly the same without tipping. I do not want to hear a ceo justify why the minimum wage shouldn’t be increased. When people make more, people spend more. Business will increase

[@buckiemohawk3643]

not true at all

[@kazithecanecorso2724]

They all got raises. They get paid 15 dollars or more look it up. No more tips

[@SuperBotcreator]

​@@buckiemohawk3643 A business that cannot pay its employees at LEAST the minimum wage is a FAILING business. Is that someone you know? Then let them know.

[@makatron]

​@@SuperBotcreatoryeah so the costumer it's keeping their failed food business open, nah I quit tipping long ago.

[@magicspider8]

If you cannot keep a restaurant operating because you cannot afford to pay your workers that mean your business is not sustainable.

[@JasonTravis-zq5uf]

As an American, I find it so frustrating when our own restaurant workers act like there's no other solution or alternative to tips, other than to raise food prices and pass the cost to the consumer. Having been to several European and Asian countries, with many restaurants that serve food at reasonable if not dirt cheap prices and do not require tips, I can say that definitely is not the case. What annoys me more is the fact that tipping culture here completely washed away the original meaning of a tip, which was an optional gesture of gratitude for excellent service. You got a tip because you were exceptionally prompt, courteous, and personable, or because the customer saw how hard you had been working during their time at the restaurant. Not because you did the bare minimum of taking orders and bringing food and the check. On top of that, you run into some servers who give you attitude or ignore you and still expect a good tip. Lastly, we Americans have the audacity to take it a step further and implement tipping screens on those tablets at coffee shops, ice cream parlors, etc. You go in, enter your order through a self-serve machine, then after putting your credit card, the next screen asks you to tip before they even begin making your drink? Cmon now. What's next? Am I going to have to start tipping my mailman for delivering my mail? The bank teller for cashing out my check? The nurse during a stay at the hospital? It's absurd.

[@-JC_Denton-]

What's the most confusing part is that you can simply look at the example of other countries - you don't even need "20% service is included" bs. Simply add 20% to the prices (not as a warning in the menu, but just included in the prices of everything on the menu), put a huge "we do not accept tips - better bring your friends" sign on the window, that's it. I once got chased across half the street by a waiter in London, who handed me my change, saying "we do get good salary, you've already payed for this buying the food, and we'll just be happy to see you come back".

[@NazriB]

Lies again? HDB Paris FNB Money

[@coffle1]

I've been chased for the opposite reason. Once for not giving a tip for a < $7 soup as a broke college student, and another time because the waitress couldn't count my tip correctly and wanted more. For that second time I tipped close to 25% but she made me tip again because she said I was short changing her and the first receipt didn't have the suggested tip percentages. After she re-printed the receipt with the tip guides, I paid 15% and she somehow felt like she had the right to be angry about it (I was close to not tipping at all after that tbh)

[@tianamarie989]

​@@coffle1you shouldn't have tipped. All you did was reward her atrocious behavior.

[@BobJones-nk6nl]

All waiters do is to go to the kitchen and bring you the food. Isn't that what they're supposed to do when they accepted their job offers? They're not doing anything special outside their duties. If I bring kids along and they make a mess, then I would definitely tip.

[@mercadosamericanos6216]

Love this comment. :)

[@jianleichen7750]

Tipping problem is not just the restaurant industry, it's EVERYWHERE! I went to a bakery last week, it is a self served bakery, I grabbed 30$ worth of pastries and head to checkout. the cashier spend 1 mins scanning all my items and hand me a giant tablet suggesting 15-25% tip, there is a small icon said edit tip, I have to click it, and the default amount is not 0! I'm sure the cashier is a full waged worker! The fact that everywhere else is so greedy on getting tips and made me wanting to revert back to using cash! If using case saves me from spending 6$ on buying 30$ bread, then why not! The restaurant industry might have a problem with tipping since other full waged workers are just getting as much tip!

[@Maclyn88]

Yea they seem to be forgetting that tipping for is actual service, not a simple transaction 🙄

[@sjferguson]

I never tip in these situations. Ever. Nope.

[@angie101972]

I went to a deli and they did me the same way. Took my order then the screen said tip. I hit 0. All you did was hit some keys. You ain’t making the food

[@StorytellingHeadshots]

They should allow tipping but make it illegal to swing that screen around with “suggested” amounts starting at nearly 1/4 if the total purchase price. I think it’s not tipping, but the entitlement that really angers people.

[@cassady7169]

…just don’t tip…is this really that complicated for you people?

[@JamietheFangirl22]

I only tip sit down restaurants, delivery drivers, and services at salons. The only exception is if I had a super amazing experience or a staff member went above and beyond.

[@Seoulhawk01]

@@cassady7169 Before they give you your food.... Don't tip.... and don't eat the food​

[@Watch-0w1]

​@@JamietheFangirl22no. Stop encouraging it. No one should be begging to live.

[@yucol5661]

If you get angry at a screen telling you to tip a lot, it’s the tipping that angers you

[@Coufu]

0:56 EXACTLY. Charge correctly for the food so we don’t have to tip!

[@BLUNTZnBEATZ97]

i think its funny how more businesses are forcing you to tip and yet the service isnt getting any better....

[@jasonwhitley3751]

Tips. Are. Not. Forced. Why do people keep saying this??

[@jakezyx]

I just returned home to Europe from a trip to Canada which has a similar tipping-culture to the USA. I found it truly bizarre and very uncomfortable and did kinda low-key ruin the trip and make me not want to ever go to North America again. At places where you pay before you eat, I had to choose my 'tip' level before I'd even tried the food,; how on earth does that work? Can I ask for a refund of the tip if the food is bad? It felt like being exhorted by the mafia at gunpoint every time I wanted to eat. Paying $6 for a coffee PLUS 13% sales tax not included in the price PLUS 15% "tip" not included in the price simply meant it was insanely expensive to ever buy any sort of food. Like others in these comments it made me feel so uncomfortable and pressured I simply stopped going to cafés and restaurants and started buying from the supermarket and eating the food back at the hotel. Or going to places like Tim Hortons which seemed to be the only normal place (i.e. it didn't ask you to tip). Please do stop the madness.

[@jamesm568]

Just ignore the tips as that's what most of us do. If someone confronts you about a tip just remind them that they are not entitled and have no legal obligation to a tip. I get so many waitresses and waiters fired.

[@beebee32002]

I felt the same last week when coming back to the US from UK. I was buying a small coffee from a coffee stand and paid using my phone, then I just naturally walked away after paying. The cashier called me to come back to the machine to enter the tip amount and click "submit." I was caught off guard then realized that I was in the US now! LOL

[@moow950]

@@beebee32002Hope you didn’t pay that “tip”!

[@TrulyPurpleslife]

Don’t pay that tip. It’s getting crazy I’m tired of tipping and not gone tip anymore. And that means cooking at home

[@yeleedkram]

@@TrulyPurpleslife Cook at home, save your money. Or go out and tip. Your choice.

[@Corsuwey]

The country I live in, tipping is rude. It means that the owner doesn't treat their workers well.

[@loladia1933]

They make it sound like a complicated topic, justifying why the employers can not pay livable wages to their tipped staff. It is not. The rest if the world is doing it just fine!

[@Peter-bx7ip]

For food, I tip on three scenarios: 1)delivery 2)sit down orders where a waiter brings you food and tends to your needs 3)bartended drink If I order to-go food anywhere: no tip. It has gotten maddening everywhere as of late.

[@prinprin3324]

Especially at drive through

[@henryqjr2001]

That’s solid! I occasionally go to subway and when you pay. The owner of the place shoves the pay machine with a tip already set.

[@kellikakes81]

​@@henryqjr2001😮😮😮😡😡😡

[@mmoarchives2542]

mine are: 1. wait time to be seated 2. how long it takes to take our orders 3. the frequency of service 4. the effort to be friendly if they meet all 4 criteria, minimum of $5 to the max of $12

[@neonpandas]

Restaurants are catching onto this. Some places like Buffalo Wild Wings add a "takeout" fee to any online, phone, or in-person to-go orders. I stopped going there. I agree, I will tip for delivery, dining service, and bartenders but not for to-go.

[@camdenmacleod16]

As a prior non-tipped fast food worker, making $200 a day in tips like she was talking about would be heaven to me. That would be almost 1/4 a paycheck.

[@LostChildOfTime]

Yeah, but it’s not guaranteed every time you work. Some days, you’re gonna go home with $20. Some weeks, you’re just not going to make enough compared to a non-tipped worker and in more cases, it’s better to have a stable wage than to get paid based on how the customer is feeling about THEIR money.

[@SuperMachead1]

@@LostChildOfTimeI’ve worked as a waiter for 40 years….always averaged $25/hr

[@LostChildOfTime]

@SuperMachead1 And if every waitress/waiter made what you made, we wouldnt be talking about this.

[@SuperMachead1]

@@LostChildOfTime true…this has been a normal everyday thing for a hundred years….why is it all of a sudden an issue now ?

[@TMoney-wt1cw]

@@LostChildOfTimethe waiters aren’t the ones talking about this most of the time… it’s everyone else. The consumers/business owners, etc. The majority of the time waiters DONT want to get rid of tipping because they would make less if we got rid of tipping and only had an hourly wage such as $20/hour lol.

[@coldtruth3944]

American tipping system is getting out of control. Being forced to pay over 20% more beside about 10% tax is more then 30% extra then what’s on the menu. And now you have to wonder if you have to pay tip even when you visit dentist or dermatologist. The worst part is you have to worry about being seemed like a jerk for tipping too little every time.

[@AA-iy4gm]

And I wish I can say otherwise but so many restaurants have mediocre food but the prices are not affordable...it seems it's a culture of dependency between the mediocre restaurants and modern lifestyle of convenience and people cooking less than ever before

[@RabidDisposition]

We have to stop eating out as a society. Put these restaurants out of business.

[@sct4040]

My husband and I rarely patronize a sit down restaurant anymore. Prices has increased and the tip on top of that makes it too inexpensive.

[@bonital119]

It's insane that in America you can apparently run a business without affording all of the costs (employee's salaries) and instead relying on HANDOUTS, which you seem to make a big deal of in every other instance.

[@AndyFahey]

Exactly!

[@TA-ne4nh]

It’s getting out of control, I am now actively avoiding places where I need to tip without getting real service: like coffee places, sandwich shops, etc

[@MuziqueJunkee]

"If we pay the server more, then the cost of the meal with increase and the customer will probably tip less..." Yeah duh! Pay your workers and make pricing upfront and clear. Take the math.and guesswork out of the dining experience.

[@PodcastClips23969]

So you want to pay $15 for a hamburger? And you think waiters won’t still hassle you for tips, even if tipping “ goes away” ?

[@BusArch42]

Except they did that here and the tip percentage stayed 20% of a much higher bill even though wages went way up. We just quit eating out

[@BusArch42]

@@PodcastClips23969we already pay that amount. Have you bought a burger at McDonald’s recently?

[@FreePleb]

Not tipping will not solve this problem. That only hurts the worker. Instead Don't go to places that employees needs the tips to survive. This will hurt the employers and actually make change. Stop being cheap and believe what you preach. Vote for change.

[@Seayaa2]

I worked delivering Chinese food at a south florida Restaurant. I quit my second shift because I did the math and found out the boss was withholding about 15% of my tips without my knowledge. I left and haven’t looked back since. Broken wages don’t deliver high demands!

[@ylive5169]

Sorry this happened to you. Terrible.

[@LoserGopher]

Did you sue

[@chickenfishhybrid44]

Should have reported it to L&I.

[@lilblackfish2009]

u cant sue for tips @@LoserGopher

[@soniamo4139]

Good on you for leaving!

[@nchaiphuong]

People also should understand that stop tipping does not mean no tip at all. In Asian counties, we pay employees minimum wage and allow tips as optional. As customers, we don’t feel obliged. As employees, you have a good night sleep after a work day. Yet that does not stop customers tipping when they are happy with services. Tips in our countries are greatest compliments.

[@hgdvl8811]

Here the government, the IRS figures out in most places by the amount of sales and amount of employees figures out a minimum amount of tips you should be making per day and taxes you on it if you make it or not thats tip compliance. If you dont sign up for tip compliance then the IRS charges you up to 25% more on that rate for not being on it . Meaning that if you report less than what they think their tip compliance rate was then they audit you and make you pay more in taxes.

[@frederickclause2694]

I'm old enough to remember when tipping in North America was for good service. Now it's just expected. Looking at a menu just add 20% to the price shown and that's the consumer's real cost.

[@osaroosayande2666]

​@@hgdvl8811 if the tip payment was an electronic means, i would pay the tax because they'll find out, but if its cash no way I'm paying😊😊

[@rdj232]

that is how it used to be in the US as well.

[@davidlee8406]

Which Asian country takes tips? I grew up in an Asian country and tips were some fancy stuff in the western countries, not in Asia.

[@gordon54321]

I've lived in Asia for the last 17 years and there is no tipping here and it works just fine when a business part works properly and not expecting them to gamble. It also works better for me as the customer I feel.

[@splint3048]

I completely agree. Business owners make a fuss about the cost increase in wages and the price increase in the things they sell but ultimately it all balances out and the customer can pay a flat rate which simplifies things and they don't have any anxiety about under or over tipping.

[@goldkwi]

Well in some parts of Asia, like Singapore and Malaysia, we have mandatory service tax (8% in Singapore, 9% next year) and service charge (10%). If you pay $100 for meal, you actually have to fork out $118.80. Obviously when it's already mandated we wouldn't tip any further

[@agent0422]

The restaurant owner who said he removed tipping while adding a mandatory 20% gratuity charge is so sleazy. Ripping off his customers and playing it off as a pro-worker move. All so he wouldn't have to pay his workers a living wage. American business owners are all evil, I swear. Ever the boss of the latina lady still wouldn't increase her wage even when he knew she was struggling financially. It's like this whole piece was written by greedy business owners

[@MrFunnyPenny]

It is an EPIC failure that the USA accepts $2.31 per hour for anyworker with or without tips. There's no need to discuss further beyond this point.

[@westbccoast]

That's crazy

[@Eddy-ov4tx]

Law says employers must pay the dif if the employee didnt make enough tips within that hour , still , very low wage - agreed.

[@ritam768]

Except they don’t get payed 2.31. If they don’t make minimum wage with tips, they get payed at least the difference by the employer. Not saying minimum wage pay is great, but the same argument can be said for fast food/retail workers

[@personnesenki4521]

@@Eddy-ov4tx Sadly if an employee has to be paid this way, that employee gets fired. Restaurants just don't want to pay their workers, unless the government forces them to do it.

[@mrq2044]

That's the good ol' USA for you

[@mikegarrens5286]

Tipping needs to stop and the employer needs to pay the workers more. If you insist on paying the difference for the employee yourself then that's your problem.

[@InvincibleAkuma]

The problem is not only with the employers. Those servers know they make more with tips than from the minimum wage. Who wants to work for minimum wage with no other addition?

[@commentorsilensor3734]

​@InvincibleAkuma then servers got to take risks for some customers not paying tips. That used to be the case. Servers got big tips from some generous customers, get almost zero from some. Tip is supposed to be bonuses, but owners n servers make tips mandatory.

[@B3Band]

Turns out many of the employees themselves don't agree. The video stated that workers in no tip restaurants leave to go to traditional restaurants in order to receive tips. It has to be everybody, not just a few random restaurants. The businesses know they can save money and attract employees by making the customers pay the wages.

[@johnolin]

Funny enough, I stopped dining out as much as I used to because tipping has gotten out of control. And now, I most cases, the server comes to you with a tablet and hovers over you while you decide on your tip while makes the experience uncomfortable. It was a breath of fresh air traveling to Europe where the price you saw on the menu is the price you pay, no tip needed. And the servers didn’t rush you out like they do in the US.

[@goldcanyon340.]

Well said.

[@samfisher2306]

The "hovering"is disgusting and they have perfected the art. I always tip but it is a bit discouraging with the eyeballing your fingers! Yikes!!

[@rjbush7955]

This is the single thing putting me off a vacation in the US. Tips, tips, and more tips. Here in the UK national minimum wage is £11.44 equiv $14.83. It’s a disgrace the richest nation on the planet cannot pay everyone a decent minimum wage.

[@nicholasjmgillis]

Was very recently in the US and ate out almost every meal including at both high end and more reasonable establishments. Some observations: 1. Ridiculous numbers of staff in restaurants - there's something to be said about employees being more efficient in their roles. In one restaurant I asked a server how many staff were working for the evening (a Monday night). The answer was 48 (covering everyone from basic kitchen labor to front of house). In any other country this would be considered absurd. Few people expect a waiter to have their own assistant to pour water or do the things that might be considered more basic. This was a nice restaurant rather than a high end restaurant. To me it seemed the US has an obsession with providing a level of service in restaurants no matter the price point (where it really isn't required). 2. Asked to tip for counter based service - sorry, but what have you actually done other than your JOB to serve me when I am standing in your store to purchase something and then leave? Do I tip a Bank employee and a post office worker too? 3. Extreme time pressures for bookings - sitting times of 90 minutes to churn customers through even with groups of 4-6 people 4. The tipping disease has spread to Mexico in a big way (as have the prices) - combative staff at one restaurant due to tip received for poor food and "expected" service Really unpleasant. There's a big difference between giving an employee a discretionary amount because you were truly happy with your experience vs resentment that the price quoted is actually MINIMUM 20% understated and you've been provided with something you could have done yourself (i.e. the water boy). Summary - a lot of operations running that aren't actually viable

[@MrJahka]

What do you mean sitting times of 90 minutes? As in they ask you to leave after 90 minutes? If that was your experience of American restaurants what you observed was extremely atypical. I have seen a place that did have policy like that one time at this very expensive yet casual sushi Indonesian fusion but the policy was that the max you could sit without ordering is 90 minutes. Personally I’ve worked in dozens of restaurants and it would have been the one of the biggest faux pas instant firing if you complained to a guest about them taking to long

[@rdj232]

@@MrJahka he means just to get seated it can take up to 90 minutes.i have experienced this at places on the level of Texas Road House.

[@MrJahka]

@@rdj232 then why would he complain they are over staffed if he thinks it’s too slow?? I don’t think that’s what he meant at all but I’d rather hear it from him lol

[@strangerland9791]

When you pretty much pay $2.13/hr, you can afford to hire 45 servers in your restaurant.

[@automatic5]

in the us u might notice a lot of older people working these jobs or other unskilled labor. its partially why our youth has so much trouble finding work

[@rightangletriangle3188]

The tipping culture in U.S. is getting too bizarre that now some of the restaurants automatically billed for 16% to 18% tips and they still ask for more tips on the credit card printout, so if you don't check carefully, you will be tipping twice. I'm sick and tired of it and just go out eat less and cook more at home. It's not like our other daily expenditures getting less that we can afford all these added on costs. Even when I go out, I'll go to the ones without automatic tipping.

[@personnesenki4521]

Companies that are supposed to be paying their employees minimum wage have ruined tipping for everyone else.

[@CarlWinslowFM]

A couple of bucks extra is no problem but when its demanded and on the receipt is starts at 15 all the way up to 30 percent is INSANE

[@B3Band]

Percentages don't even make sense. The waiter just writes words on a pad and talk to you. Who cares if I ordered a $10 burger or a $50 steak? Why does he get more money because the thing he wrote down happens to cost more?

[@jasonwhitley3751]

​@B3Band this I agree with. I've worked in restaurants my whole life. I'm now a manager. I've never understood why tips are percentage based. The final cost of the check has very little to do with the effort put in by the server. I always thought it was fairer to determine how much should be tipped based on the number of people being served. Then vary the amount per person based on the quality of service. Tipping based on percentage of the check just gives servers incentive to ignore customers who don't order pricey items in favor of those who do.

[@jasonwhitley3751]

No restaurants demand a tip. You will never be stopped by someone going "Hey you didn't tip, you can't leave". You do know you can tip less than the suggestions on the bill right? Those aren't your only options. They are simply there because they are the most common percentages tipped and they make it easier for you so you don't have to do complex math. If the suggestion is 18% and you want to tip 15% either do the math, or tip a little less than the 18% amount.

[@alexfencer34]

Many restaurants actually provide their employees two options - make fixed $15-20 an hour, or $2.13 plus tips. And LOTS of people still choose the latter because they know on certain days they can make over $50 an hour. So knowing that, I’m sorry, but food service workers and restaurants have no sympathy from me. Especially with the attitude I get sometimes simply when picking up a mediocre drip coffee and a bagel, paying $10 (which is already outrageously expensive for this) and the staff having the audacity to outright ask me if I want to tip, with the lowest option being 25% 🤡

[@lethercreate]

Why has this industry relied on the consumer to pay waitstaff. It’s ridiculous. People should be paid for their work.

[@InvincibleAkuma]

Do you think servers prefer tips from customers or minimum wage with no tips? The answer was mentioned in the video.

[@magdacavuquila3263]

@@InvincibleAkuma yes, they prefer because it beneficts them on the expense of the consumer

[@davidyolchuyev2905]

I hate tipping! Period! With the prices on the menu I don’t even wanna eat outside anymore - and I make 150k a year with no debt! The food prices have become insanely high!

[@InternetGirl1093]

I agree, tipping is ruining dining experiences. Waiters have gotten insane and started demanding higher tips from consumers. TIPS ARE OPTIONAL!

[@sean2015]

If you make $150K a year I don't see why money is an issue for you (...unless you live in California or Manhattan).

[@marcd6897]

@@sean2015I’d agree. He is probably just an imposter or wannabe internet troll

[@kindmulberry7196]

​@@sean2015He's right though, don't shame him for not tipping. Take here in the UK for example, you don't usually tip at all, at restaurants you can tip 10% if you want or round up a few quid, but you don't need to it's not mandatory. The US should stop this tipping madness and just include prices with taxes then tipping can be optional

[@sean2015]

@@kindmulberry7196 I wasn’t shaming the OP for not tipping. I was simply questioning him for saying he doesn’t have money to eat out when he earns $150K and has no debt.

[@z.z.1876]

As a European it’s really interesting for me to watch these restaurant owners analyzing that it is impossible to give even the normal minimum wage to their workers… I’m not sure why it works then in so many countries around the world. Obligatory service fees in restaurants work in Europe as well (usually around 10-12% - the same amount as we tip as a rule of thumb for services instead of the 20% of the US). I believe in the fact that you can’t “export” every system, because of the cultural differences, but I think paying people the minimum wage could be done based on existing examples.

[@heindoof9]

Weird how in Germany they can be paid over 13 dollars an hour and restaurants still operate, while American restaurant owners complain about it moved from roughly 2$😵‍💫

[@troystpaul100]

Now weird. Majority of wait staff prefer tips. There are McDonalds restaurants paying 17 bucks an hour, yet they cannot find workers

[@heychrisfox]

@@troystpaul100 We have 3 generations of wait staff that know nothing but a tipping economy. Give one generation a fair wage and I guarantee they'll all approve in a heartbeat.

[@troystpaul100]

@@heychrisfox what the hell is a fair wage?

[@cassady7169]

@@heychrisfoxlol no servers making tips today would work for $13 an hour. Servers make well above that.

[@heychrisfox]

@@troystpaul100 Enough to live off of, like everyone else. As opposed to literally less than minimum wage.

[@rubychew6535]

This is terrible that an employer can't pay his employees a living wage.

[@SgtJoeSmith]

cause you cheap customers not willing to pay $50 a meal

[@sdlock83]

Correction. Employer WON'T pay his employees a REASONABLE wage.

[@SgtJoeSmith]

@@sdlock83 you the customer at the restaurant are the employer of your server. they serve you!

[@depthcharge6215]

I keep hearing that narrative "living wage" but somehow they forgot they help raise the cost of living.

[@junyaiwase]

@@SgtJoeSmithoh so whos the guy who pays them?? They should be at my house making food then, or else u just springing bs out your ass

[@sangomoon5456]

This is one of the big reasons why i left serving after 15+ years. Also, tipping creates a power imbalance that some customers abuse.

[@LucasDimoveo]

What did you move to?

[@MiguelCedenoLozano]

​@@LucasDimoveo Bro, working any job in America is just rigged at this point. I studied engineering while working in the horrible restaurant industry. But honestly, school is a scam too. I get paid a "competitive" wage which basically means still not enough to buy a house and a new car with cash like the olden days. Not to mention I have massive student loan debt. Plus I get taxed more. Basically, the solution is to start a business and become as ruthless as the employers that screwed us sadly.

[@LucasDimoveo]

@@MiguelCedenoLozano From my vantage point, engineers are doing really well. Many of my friends with engineering degrees are making good money, travel a lot, some own houses, others are renting in cool parts of the country. Hell, my partner went from being a barista to being a nurse ( $18 ish an hour to six figures). She went from driving a broken used Subaru that she drove into the ground to a Tesla. I’m still in the “literally counting dimes” phase of life at 31. It is exhausting. Most people who consider themselves “middle class” don’t know how dire things can get on this side of the economy

[@sangomoon5456]

​@@LucasDimoveo Im in the cannabis industry now and I love it. Ppl are more nice to me and curious about my knowledge and recommendations. It was a good switch for me, my customer service skills from serving still earns me tips from time to time but I don't have to rely on them.

[@OctPSfever]

Oh the other around too. You get discriminated by waiters, they can spot who is a good tipper or not.

[@limachowdhury7444]

Tipping should be only given to those who deserve it My request is to pay these servers cash !!!! Also they need to make it illegal for restaurants to pay employees 2-3$ hourly because it’s unfair Why would you pay them that ?? Pay them your states minimum!!! If employers pay what they should then there is no pressure for employees to feel they have to make the tips as an income Tips is essential for them it’s an honor to receive it when an employee serves the customer with all the respect and care !!! It’s can’t be a way if business owners to take advantage of the situation!!! And make consumers pay for their employees and make the consumers feel they must pay !!!