Why There's Only One American Cruise Ship

[@halfasinteresting]

Correction time!!! While the Jones Act does restrict the carriage of passengers between US ports by foreign flagged vessels, the law that more directly prohibits it and regulates it is the even older Passenger Vessel Services Act of 1886. Same regulations (pretty much), but different name. Also, one person on Twitter who sounded like they knew what they were talking about said that Norwegian Cruise Lines was granted an exception to the, "US crewed," regulation because the US government was reallllly thirsty for a US flagged cruise ship so apparently they only need to have 50% of their crew as US citizens while the other 50% can be foreigners with the right to work in the US. Please have mercy on me (and buy my merch.)

[@thegreat0220]

Ok

[@rialseebran2072]

MERCH

[@angusrobert8992]

I hope you’re not genuinely surprised American law doesn’t apply to uh...NOT AMERICA!

[@GewelReal]

Ok I'll have no mercy *buys no merch*

[@catomarcelius1389]

I'd like to clarify that in Singapore the act of chewing gum is not illegal the selling of chewing gum however is

[@MrCTruck]

Anybody know any British cruise ships? Asking for a friend. Not because I want to recreationally annex other countries.

[@Decipher13]

Golden Princess, as well as a few other Princess cruise ships are registered in the UK.

[@solarsatan9000]

Carnival and cunard white star

[@notaspy1227]

Didn’t the UK use a cruise ship as a troop transport during the last Falkland island campaign?

[@sunsetvlogs5500]

Tajmar Lamb-Lewis yes the Canberra aptly named after another colony

[@robbie356]

@@erazure. Edwardian time ships are ocean liners.

[@averagemachinist2927]

NCL did not commission this ship. An American cruise company originally contracted to have three ships built. After 9/11 though that company went bankrupt due to decreased tourism. NCL bought the first and almost completed ship . They then transported the ship to a German ship yard for completion. While at the German shipyard the ship sank due to having a hole cut in her side and a storm. I have knowledge of all this because I helped design and build most of the exterior door and windows for her. Just a little trivia the job was called Project America.

[@LittleWhole]

Average Machinist Good to hear an insider perspective!

[@LittleWhole]

If the ship sank, then how did they get it out?

[@rahbaralhaq]

@@LittleWhole It sank in a shipyard, meaning it was either in a dock or shallow waters and easily recoverable.

[@lovemoviesful2]

Uh huh.

[@rdrdrd7777]

Average Machinist I was transported by jet to that German ship yard to help put in tables etc. in dry dock, then made the trip across the Atlantic to Hawaii on the Pride of America! It was an experience.

[@Jeauxnir]

"if you're on a British ship, you're allowed to annex any country..." *Smashed that like button*

[@1973Washu]

Only if you have a flag...

[@fruitella196]

cloridan Beauchamps Uh what type of cruiser we on about

[@fruitella196]

No Chatter no land? Uhhhhh

[@hahaaha7400]

Same tho, quickly smashed the like button

[@fruitella196]

Marvin Brando what? Where did you even hear that?

[@DanaOrtiz]

"trust me, I'm a lawyer" famous last words of a famous last mistake.

[@joshuad1716]

Glock magic88 inb4 he is a lawyer

[@samuelthecamel]

Yeah, because he said he was a lawyer it could technically be interpreted as legal advice, which is illegal in the US unless he as a licence. I think it was pretty obvious he was joking though

[@nolagirl7082]

“$7.25, enough to buy an avocado cracker in San Francisco”😂😂😂

[@chaosXP3RT]

Sad, but almost true

[@Bird_Dog00]

@chaosXpert "Almost true"? As in, an avocado cracker cost $7.30 in Frisco?

[@penzorphallos3199]

@@Bird_Dog00 yea, its only 7.20$

[@iipixel8607]

iNfLaTiOn

[@thecookingnerd8384]

Penzor Phallos ONLY!

[@KrissRacing]

So the Pride of America is owned by Norwegian Cruise Line... hmm

[@Maxmekker42]

NCL is an American based company

[@KrissRacing]

@@Maxmekker42 ik, it startes as a norwegian company but was sold to the US

[@acsupersport7981]

Pride of America is part of the NCL America division. She was bought by American Classic Voyages

[@SkyyPiano]

What about Carnival? It says it's founded in Florida.

[@acsupersport7981]

@@SkyyPiano carnival itself was founded in Florida. It doesn't mean that that all ships have to have a registry in the usa

[@CGaboL]

1:00 "If you are in a British flagged ship, you're allowed to invade and annex any country you want for recreational purposes" that made me laugh so hard haha

[@Miquelalalaa]

CGabo Did it really? You have a low threshold...

[@SupremeRuleroftheWorld]

If you are in a American flagged ship, you're allowed to invade and annex any country you want for securing their oil reserves"

[@WRGOP]

Drive YT Brand U.K. : Civil War

[@SunflowerSpotlight]

I love it when he inserts dry humor in random places. You’re not expecting it right then and that makes it all the funnier. It’s part of the charm of his channel!

[@Yadobler]

I'm just happy they mentioned how a singapore-registered ship makes chewing gum illegal

[@Henry-sn3js]

I like how this is recommended now

[@AnonAnon-pm9ny]

Extra "fuck you"s for everyone.

[@aidenwagner4250]

Yeye

[@jwb_666]

KZbin is so broken

[@luisyamanda74]

We just need money

[@NGCAnderopolis]

@@luisyamanda74 same

[@rueh1747]

I was on that ship! My friend took me to Hawaii with her for free like 6 years ago and it was the best experience ever. I’m glad that cruise ship exists

[@SgtJoeSmith]

The only American cruise ship is owned by a foreign country company. Go figure

[@odinvik7821]

NCL isn't Norwegian owned anymore, it's based in Miami and owned by star cruises

[@SgtJoeSmith]

@@odinvik7821 didn't know. Thanks for update

[@nickpsilvestri]

Norwegian Cruise Line is an American company.

[@solarsatan9000]

Technically there is a 2nd just its sitting in dock and may be scrapped at any time it's also not seaworthy

[@mickeyg7219]

@@odinvik7821 That's no longer true either, Star Cruises sold its last of Norwegian Cruise Line stakes to Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings about half a year ago. Star Cruises still owns some of NCL's former ships, but they no longer have any stakes in the company. NCLH's domicile is in Bermuda, but most of its operations are in Miami, I'm not sure which country owned it though, but it could either be the US or Norway, probably both.

[@HippoOnABicycle]

Fun fact: The national drinking age in the US is actually 18, but there are federal spending bills that mandate that states with a 21+ drinking age get extra highway funding, and since highways are expensive to maintain, every state has "voluntarily" chosen to have a 21+ drinking age. Since the cruise ship only has to follow federal laws and not state laws, the Pride of America could have an 18+ age limit for alcohol on board if it wanted to.

[@alexdhall]

Interesting...

[@Panaric0]

"The Federal Uniform Drinking Age Act of 1984 sets the minimum legal drinking age to 21 and every State abides by that standard. According to this Act, the Federal government can withhold ten percent of Federal funding for highways from States that do not prohibit people under age 21 from buying or publically (sic) possessing any alcoholic beverage. While every State abides by this standard, State law varies on specifics about possession and exceptions to the law, such as allowing people under 21 to drink with their parents." (www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohols-effects-health/alcohol-policy#:~:text=The%20Federal%20Uniform%20Drinking%20Age,State%20abides%20by%20that%20standard.)

[@mohssenkassir431]

Thanks for not making it a political video, because if it was, I would be compelled to critique the regulations that America has placed on cruise ships, because protecting American jobs for the sake of it without addressing loopholes is sloppy, but it isn't a political video, so I don't have to.

[@pelinalwhitestrake1176]

Fr right 😂

[@ABEL-cd2sp]

So my question is what would be the sacrifice of the jones act? Yes it protects American jobs, however it also raises the costs of living in secluded places of America, which one is more fucked I wonder. Then again this isn’t a political video

[@kingofhumanity]

AMERICA

[@allocater2]

Funny how America is apparently incapable of having a cruise industry with $7 minimum wage, but Europe can have one with much higher worker pay, rights and protection. Europe is superior once again, suckers!

[@kualalumpurheart8154]

@@allocater2 Why do people compare one country to a whole continent?

[@blackberrytea6500]

I AM ON THIS CRUISE SHIP RIGHT NOW WHAT THE HECK

[@jerrycai3317]

xD

[@lifewithdt7657]

Lucky😒😆

[@briantruck2284]

Nice

[@HS-PGX]

The pride of America is pretty crap. I went on it but I enjoyed Lihue the most.

[@Catholic2309]

Sure

[@Kubla84]

you should do a story about the complaining the cruise lines put up when the USA required all cruise ships docking in the US to meet US safety laws for fire control

[@victornderu143]

I like how you just won't leave the British and their colonization tendencies!!

[@Aamie]

www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/britain-stole-45-trillion-india-181206124830851.html

[@amorag59]

Well it is independence day in the US.

[@juststeve5542]

He says, speaking in English, with laws based on the English model, whilst still measuring things in miles, feet, inches, lbs and ounces. You're all still British, just with bad spelling! Happy treason day you ungrateful colonials! ;-) (Let's see if you've managed to retain a bit of the British sense of humour, or if you'll just come out swinging your assault rifles).

[@Pinochet-ui7vu]

Steve Evans just you wait! Im coming

[@Pinochet-ui7vu]

Steve Evans on my mobility scooter packing an ar15 that is!

[@TatsArc]

"If you're on a British cruise you can annex any territory " Lol China and Russia are shaking

[@Kakarot64.]

They shouldn't be lol, China is overcrowded and we have a history of drug wars with them (opium wars). Russia is a frozen wasteland filled with ecological disasters from the communist regimes (guess who dried up the Aral sea)

[@AlistairAi]

@@cheerbozz dude who hurt you?

[@cheerbozz]

AlistairAI Just staying facts....

[@gentlemanjones8469]

@@cheerbozz China is gay.

[@radiantcat540]

@@Kakarot64. my good friend do you even know how the opium problem I'm China started? 😂

[@ryanpenrod1859]

"One of the not-yet-united states" Shots fired, prepare for counter volley of super-polite passive-aggressive Canadian comments.

[@sevinceur1766]

Well I’m not dedicated enough to spend 15 min or so trying to find one at the bottom of the comment section. I’ll just assume anybody would take that as a joke.

[@michaelvelik8779]

Ryan Penrod as I understand it, Canadian nationalism is basically “We’re not Americans”.

[@sevinceur1766]

Michael Velik As a Canadian we often think ourselves lucky to not face the hardships that Americans have to face. But we don’t actively compare our 2 countries, if that’s what you meant, since there’s too many different parameters.

[@michaelvelik8779]

Vincent B207, I meant it as a light hearted joke nothing more.

[@sevinceur1766]

Michael Velik I see, it can be hard to see jokes via the screen.

[@clockwork4318]

As a Brit, I feel I am obligated to like based purely on your jab at us. Good shot.

[@patrickbateman783]

Britannia Rules the Waves 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@Lalechugadeldia]

2:57 For those wondering if that's actually Panama. Yes, it's indeed Panama City

[@michaels5917]

But the Jones act also ensures that the us has a larger merchant marine during times of war than otherwise

[@dongiovanni4331]

I dont see why the army can't do that job. They did it during ww2.

[@shanethomas5327]

DonGiovanni the army doesn’t operate ships that support the navy. That would be Military Sealift Command. You may want to look up the group with the highest causality rate in WW2.

[@SuperLusername]

@@shanethomas5327 the group with largest casualties in WW2 is Red Army. I dont get how Red Army is relevant to this conversation.

[@yourlocalmemeandanimedeale807]

@@SuperLusername He was saying that for the US not the whole world

[@N75911_]

@@SuperLusername Oh yeah, it's big brain time.

[@sambongi6155]

Merchant Mariner here, the Jones act is the only thing keeping the dwindling Merchant Marine from being completely out-competed by foreign shipping companies. It's notable that the law might need to be ammended for places such as Hawaii. However, it is a law that's instrumental in keeping a struggling industry afloat. I love this channel and this is the only point of criticism I've really ever had. I appreciate Sam's dedicated effort to researching and bringing to light interesting and obscure topics for discussion!

[@jpe1]

Sam Bongi if the merchant marine is struggling then why should the government support it? Did the government write laws to support the struggling horse-drawn buggy manufacturing industry at that same time (late 19-teens) What about all the young men who worked shoveling up horse manure in cities who lost their jobs when horses were displaced by automobiles? To give a more current example, what about all the microchip manufacturing that has moved overseas? Should the government subsidizes that? In fact a very strong argument can be made that the Jones act killed the American merchant marine by creating perverse incentives for shipping companies to take an “all or nothing” approach to their fleets, where in the absence of the Act there would have been hybrid solutions that still used some American ships and shipping blended with foreign built and flagged vessels.

[@brookeking8559]

Or it could be that the industry struggles and doesn’t fully utilize the training and experience of its US Merchant Mariners because it’s easier for companies’ management to earn profits in a protected market. Maybe US shipping companies need the potential for competition to engage in better management. I’m not saying it’s equivalent, but the US steel industry moved to higher profit specialty steels and building closer to finished products - again higher profits - once the import restrictions of the 1980’s were dropped. It could also be that US shipbuilders find it simpler to earn profits from cost-plus military contracts instead of using US labor with better skills and longer experience to better advantage. In contrast, Honda doesn’t have to build Accords in Ohio, much less some for export to Japan, but they do because it’s cost effective and profitable to use US labor and logistics. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that unsubsidized farm products generally are more profitable for farmers to grow than subsidized commodities, English peas more profitable than wheat.

[@bryanachee7133]

@@jpe1 the jones act also keeps a merchant fleet viable that is necessary in times of war, also helps with security of not having unsafe, unregistered vessels made up of completely foreign crew working on the inland waterways such as the Great Lakes and Mississippi River.

[@maltemalte2890]

As a European student in shipbuilding engineering I would like to interject. We like to think, that the Jones-Act has made American shipyards lasey so that the technical standard of US ships is pretty Bad. I would also believe that there is a pretty successful merchant marine in Europe, which works without any similar laws...

[@jaw1489]

I’m a Naval Architect and we have half a semester worth of education on the Jones act. And yes it does increase the cost of goods by a bit but it would be nothing compared to what we’d loose if it went away. It would mean the end of the US ship building industry, ship maintaining industry, and any local shipping company if this were to go away. Millions of people would either lose work or have to work for much less

[@techfreak1182]

This is HAI, while his videos are intrested when it comes to politics he only cares about making America cheaper and more like Europe, don't get your hopes up on him caring on how removing it will effect blue collar workers. We already moved the factories over seas, people like HAI want to move the ship yards too.

[@hazcat640]

Jack, at least as important is the fact that the Jones Act keeps the merchant fleet active for military necessities. Who do you think delivers all of those tanks, trucks, troops etc. and keep them supplied during operations.

[@southwestxnorthwest]

*lose

[@Dave_Sisson]

Surely its huge protectionism from things like the Jones Act which makes everything in 'Murica unnecessarily expensive and leads to them being forced to do things they are not good at compared to other countries, like making ships. If they had something closer to free trade, they could specialise in things they do efficiently and leave cruise ship construction to Europe and container ships to Asia. The result would be America is more efficient on the world stage and is more successful internationally AND the average Americans income and buying power rises.

[@mikeblatzheim2797]

Apparently the total number of large(ish) US-flagged merchant ships is less than 200, and of those not all were built in the US. Getting rid of the Jones Act might hurt the US shipping industry, but leaving the Jones Act as is does the same. There's no longer millions of US jobs tied to US shipbuilding, as the vast majority of ships get built in Asia anyways. Not that the remaining US shipbuilders would necessarily go under, the biggest cruise ship manufacturers are in Finland and Germany, both of which can outcompete cheaper foreign alternatives. The US builders have survived on building more specialised ships, and repealing the Jones Act won't change that. Because of the Jones Act US shipping lines have been and to this day tend to be less competitive even when compared to rail transport. You say that this would end local shipping companies, but the biggest US (container) shipping company is Matson with a market share of 0.3% and less than 30 ships. Meanwhile the market is dominated by European companies (APL for example is under French ownership as part of CMA GCM). US shipping is already virtually dead. If the Jones Act was supposed to protect the US shipping industry, shipbuilders and lines it failed miserably. Getting rid of it would at least level the playing field for US companies, who'd undoubtedly have an advantage in transporting goods directly between US ports, being based in the US. But as things are such operations are impossible (economically), and foreign companies with either an established market share (from Europe) or lower operating costs (everyone else) have a marked advantage on shipping to and from the US. The biggest sufferers from repealing the Jones Act would be air and rail freight, meanwhile you'd see jobs created with more cargo and more ships at ports.

[@EmmaCruises]

This is so interesting, especially considering the US cruise market is one of the biggest! Thanks for sharing. 😁👍🏼

[@GeometricMason]

Over a dozen years ago, Norwegian had a ship called the Norwegian Wind which did 11-day cruises round-trip Honolulu. The Wind was Bahamian-flagged. So what they did was part of the 11 day itinerary was to visit Fanning Island in the Republic of Kiribati which is about 1100 miles due south of Honolulu. It took two days to get there, a day on the island, and two days to get back. Problem was, there were frequent problems getting to Fanning Island. Sometimes, the ship would make it there, but high seas made it too dangerous for any passengers to go ashore. Usually, in those cases, the Wind would send a tender to the island just to do paperwork and therefore satisfy the Jones Act for that cruise, but nonetheless leaving passengers disappointed that missed what would probably be their once-in-a-lifetime chance to visit such a tiny and remote country. Other times, like the 24 March 2007 sailing that I was on, the ship got about halfway there and there would be a medical emergency and because the ship was quite literally in the middle of nowhere, too far away for rescue from the US Coast Guard. So the ship would have to turn-around and head back to Hawaii. Yes we were disappointed by missing Fanning Island, but we got an extra day in Maui and got to cruise past the 3,000 foot cliffs of Molokai. Problem is, but not touching a foreign port, NCL had to pay HUGE fines for violation of the Jones Act. As a result, NCL abandoned that plan (and the people of Kiribati) and my sailing was actually the second-to-last for that itinerary.

[@ACoolKidsProduction]

Interesting. I did a 7-day cruise on the Norwegian Star back in 2002 and it took only one day in each direction to get to Fanning Island. Perhaps your cruise was just taking its time a bit more because it was longer. Also, the Star had a helipad that I assume was mostly for medical emergencies, but I don't know if the Wind had one or if they could use it in your case.

[@lukerochevot]

Fact of the day: The United States has more Americans than the rest of the world. Thanks, Half as Interesting!

[@2712animefreak]

It's not true for all countries though. Ireland, Mongolia, Azerbaijan, Botswana, Eswatini and Lesotho don't have the most of their namesake ethnicities. Those would be the US, China, Iran, South Africa, South Africa and South Africa respectively.

[@user-uw3fi2zg4t]

Latin America has more Americans anyway

[@Aimless6]

The US also has more Hondurans than Honduras.

[@michaelziegler9337]

A real bisexual petrol-head us “you people” don’t care. Could not care less. We mind our own business unlike you people trying to be so up in our business about politics, our military, our patriotism and personal lives

[@BladeTheGabite]

"America" the continent (North and South America) has the most Americans.

[@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un]

There’s also a North Korean cargo ship that was turned into a cruise ship for Chinese tourists. It’s famous for its brown rusty water and congested rooms

[@NicholasMonks]

According to Trump, these are not unsafe or unsanitary conditions.

[@jasonfischer8946]

Gotta make it feel like home.

[@HTPCYMC]

The reason why there’s only one is because the United States government held a Battle Royale game with all of the country’s cruise ships, and only one of them survived.

[@ramenchickenflavor2634]

lol

[@cosmonautriot7295]

I see you on most videos I watch gave you a sub thanks for being funny your great! that sounds-

[@youcansave15ormoreoncarins75]

Blackwater and greywater are the ultimate weapons

[@jay_mem]

EPIC VICTORY ROYALEEEE

[@GusThePrankster]

How come I see you in every comment section ever

[@eddieinsa]

There use to be 3 ships that NCL operated in Hawaii, I worked on the largest which was the Pride of Hawaii. Fun times. That was back in '08 though, didn't know it was down to one ship now. I was a bellman and made $9 an hour plus tips (cash tips, tips added to ticket as well as a portion of the tip pool (all guests over 12 years old get charged $10 usd per day thats added to their account that goes to the ship pool)). Worked a minimum of 12 hours per day 7 days a week (I myself averaged 92 hours a week) and with U.S. Labor laws, everything over 40 hours is overtime pay (time and half). No rent, no food or drink cost (so long as I ate/drank on board) meant big money.

[@jtloftin]

@Eddie Martinez I was on the Aloha ‘04-‘06 as a front Waiter (though I usually flew solo). You aren’t kidding about the hours and tips equalling up to good money, even though I did work a lot, I was able to afford paying someone as a personal assistant to line up car rentals, restaurant reservations, or other dating type arrangements for my girl and me for when we did get time on shore. Wasn’t easy by any means but DEFINITELY some of my best memories.

[@ChrisStargazer]

If you’re a resident of Hawaii make sure you use either a tour company or site that offers a kama’āina discount. My first cruise on the Pride of America (inside cabin) cost me less than $600. My second one (balcony) cost me less than $800. Since I had been to every single port of call multiple times, during both cruises I never got off the boat; the cruise *was* my vacay.

[@einsteinboricua]

Thank you for this video. I finally got a better understanding of why the Victoria/Vancouver stops on Alaska cruises are so short. And I didn't know that you could circumnavigate the restrictions by adding a stop elsewhere.

[@ACoolKidsProduction]

I went on an NCL cruise in Hawaii before the Pride of America existed. That one went 2 or 3 days out of its way to make a stop at Fanning Island, a remote atoll in Kiribati.

[@voodootrois]

In the industry, these are called "flags of convenience."

[@2WheelSTIG]

1:29 I was just on the carnival splendor last April. Awesome cruise!

[@Patriotgal1]

About 20 years ago my fam and I took a 6 day cruise between the Hawaiian Islands. It was the S.S. Independence, US made/US registered/US crewed. It was also one of the last of the "Oceanliners", 900+ feet long (no stabilizers for pushies, either) and carried about 700 passengers. It was LUXURY. I'd pay 10x as much if I could do it again.

[@secretsmysteries8338]

This ship was actually built domestically for an American flagged and based cruise line that was just adding ocean cruises to its mix. I think was Majestic America. The liner was supposed to sail for them along with a sister ship when 2003 or so saw it collapse. The first ship was completed at Ingalls though and taken over by NCL. They, instead, took up from the recently ended American Hawaii Cruises run and ran the ship there as originally intended. The other ship was probably slated to go along the east coast to Puerto Rico.

[@halfasinteresting]

Happy America Day, America. Celebrate America by suggesting America-themed (or the rest of the world themed, I guess) topics to the suggestion box: docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfUdlvw6YgU44J8AnM2U_ZvRMyvh_CUM51LYSqF5nYJB9d1-w/viewform?usp=sf_link If we use your suggestion, we'll send you an American made t-shirt to anywhere in America (or the rest of the world too, I guess.)

[@qingkunli9235]

o

[@dudamonas2450]

Im not American

[@snowpiercer1001]

@@dudamonas2450 me too

[@MarcosRodriguesCarvalho]

happy US self-proclamation of independence day, from one of your viewers in one of the other 30+ countries in America, the continent.

[@MarloSoBalJr]

Its pronounced *'MURICA!*

[@carydrucker3035]

I went on a cruise to Alaska last summer. However, instead of starting in Seattle, we started in Vancouver, Canada. It was one of the best experiences of my life!

[@ACoolKidsProduction]

Yeah, every Alaskan cruise that I'm familiar with stops in Vancouver. I don't know why they named that other place.

[@av8r_adam167]

0:58 chewing gum is actually legal in Singapore the thing that's illegal is selling them.....so are you sure you are a lawyer? I'm a Singaporean myself. Haha

[@Seatux]

Never mind he says Singaporean min wage is low. Not as low as Malaysia it is..

[@av8r_adam167]

@@Seatux wdym?

[@OsuSweet]

So it's like drugs... kind of

[@CraftBasti]

Is *gifting* the gum allowed? Or is it actually not selling but distributing that is illegal?

[@ellenorbjornsdottir1166]

It's legal under prescription

[@Dog.soldier1950]

Jones act like restrictions are common in other countries as well as ground transportation

[@onfirerobloxscripting]

The fact that he said "Not yet United States of America, Canada " kinda scares me. I'm a Canadian

[@kirkc9643]

1:09 you nailed that 'accent'. Those people really shit me and I live thousands of kilometres away.

[@TornaitSuperBird]

Kirk Claybrook oof. The California Valley accent.

[@creativename4879]

Tornait That wasn’t that accent, that was just a “blah blah” voice

[@AydinAndArchie]

i've been on the Pride of America

[@aaronqu8168]

Loan Nhi VAB ok

[@johnskrelnik]

Ok

[@nasbuscus]

Dope what’s it like

[@mikeries8549]

@@nasbuscus like Noahs ark with a big motah

[@21234u]

Ok

[@room34]

Thanks for adding a 4,000th reason why I will never want to go on a cruise ship: labor exploitation. (Don't worry, most of my reasons are not so high-minded. They generally revolve around gastrointestinal distress.)

[@Zeromaus]

Labor exploitation isn't exploitation if it's considered a standard wage to them.

[@ACoolKidsProduction]

@@Zeromaus Yeah, a weird thing is that all the Filipinos and Indonesians jump at the chance to work for peanuts by US standards on a cruise ship is because those peanuts are gold to them.

[@seapappy9183]

Apparently it’s okay to diss the Jones Act if your livelihood doesn’t depend on it. For us men and women who depend on it, it’s fine by us. It ensures we make a living wage in exchange for the months/years we spend away from our families, friends and other loved ones... and that our position isn’t filled by a foreign mariner for a 10th of what we make. Diss it all you want, but most US Mariners do not support a repeal of the Jones Act.

[@davidw2417]

Victoria, BC resident here. Cheers for the shout-out, Mr. Burger. We do get cruise ships pretty much continuously in port throughout the summer, which is conveniently located close to downtown. Many fellow Victorians hate the tourist influx, but I actually like it - sure you get a few entitled boomers, but the tourists add a liveliness and "hustle n bustle" feel to the downtown region that gives it a special feel in the summer. Plus, they spend a lot of money. Victoria is a very unique city, would definitely recommend people to come visit!

[@breadbox1081]

*Why there's only one American cruise ship* -CuZ eVeRyThInG iS -*_-mAdE iN cHiNa-_*

[@BikeHelmetMk2]

Actually, Korea is huge in shipbuilding - although China is nipping at their heels now. For a lot of vessels (Drybulk, Containerships, etc.) you can build an ultra modern eco vessel for about 16-20% of the cost of building it in North America. My logic is, rather than building ships here, why not invest the money in 6-10% yield bonds, preferred shares and other investment instruments, then buy new Korean ships every 3 years? Your average ship lasts 20 years, so you'd end up with 6-7x as many. Then you could take over the world shipping market and ensure that your country's goods have cheap transport to everywhere else. Roads and trains (transportation) proved to be instrumental to economic growth here in North America. The government building a huge network powered growth for private citizens and companies for decades. Megaships are just goods transportation for the 21st century. They're global roads. Whoever owns them gets the economic growth, since they can subsidize the private citizens and businesses and industries that they choose. China's playbook is modelled after what worked in the US, which the US seems to have forgotten.

[@baronvonjo1929]

Lots of ships are made in Europe

[@breadbox1081]

@@BikeHelmetMk2 Can you be my Social and History tutor plz

[@breadbox1081]

@Strong Black Independent Republican Black Waman and your name is racist

[@carholic-sz3qv]

Aryrix 1 the majority of ships are made in Korea by Samsung, Daewoo, Hyundai....

[@joshuanesbit]

does that mean ships that are registered in Southampton or London such as Princess ships have to pay their crew British wages?

[@davieturner339]

Josh Nesbitt : Same as the Cunard ships, Princess Cruises’ ships are registered to Bermuda.

[@seneca983]

Are you referring to specific ships or all the ships of Princess Cruises? It seems that many of their ships are registered in Bermuda, though e.g. Majestic Princess is registered in London.

[@joshuanesbit]

seneca983 specific ships. Also with p&o cruises the vast majority are Bermudan-flagged, except the Britannia which is registered in Southampton, UK

[@scottharris5264]

Imagine not treating workers like slaves. What a concept.

[@cmelton6796]

It'll never catch on.

[@IceDaemon]

Another excellent knowledge gained.

[@jvlivscaesar]

So as I used to work on her fun fact it started out as a cargo ship being built in missouri then towed to germany and as it was almost done building they cut it in half to add a section because hawaii allowed a higher tonnage just before the launch all of that required an act of congress to be legal and declare it an American ship

[@lucykwiatek5159]

Ever click on a video and just *know* that the Jones Act will get mentioned?

[@Notadragon621]

Miles Kwiatek all the time man.

[@kabochaVA]

An HAI video that does not feature a single PLANE? What is happening?

[@NatapixAS]

thats wendover, not HAI

[@SuperSMT]

Trains, planes, boats, what's the difference?

[@Sorenle72]

The same day I disembarked the Pride of America, I went to Honolulu to board the then longest domestic flight in the world, a United 767-400 bound for Newark. ^^ Hey, there's something about planes!

[@mn2609AA]

Do I care about cruise ships? Absolutely not. Do I care about stuff like the Merchant Marine Act of 1920? You bet ya. Love your videos :)

[@sarge6870]

"Do I care about cruise ships? Absolutely not." Yet here I am posting to a video I don't care about!!

[@ahuh5678]

I saw this ship in harbor when I was in Hawaii last week, and now here's a video from one of my favorite KZbin channels about it. Yay!

[@flack3]

Entertaining, informative, funny and to the point, great vid! Subbed!

[@ab0x0fp0tat0s]

Oh shit it took me till 4 mins in to realize I've been on that ship twice lmao

[@stephenbritton9297]

There is so much more to this story... That Wendover guy could have done a 12 minute video on it ;) 1) The Jones Act of 1920, as amended over the years, also provided the first federally mandated version of Worker's Compensation in America, ended the exploitation of the American Mariner at the hands of the ship owner, and did much to make the USMM the organization that played a major part in winning WW2. I will avoid the political discussion on whether the "cabbotage law" section is still needed, cause thats a long one. 2) Lets go back to the 1990's. American Hawaiian Cruise Lines owned two last generation ocean liners (SS CONSTITUTION and SS INDEPENDENCE). They were plum wore out. For years, they operated one, while the other was laid up and worked on just enough to keep going (as they didn't have a lot of coin for reasons you explained.) Eventually the CONNY was just plain worn out and was sold for scrap. Unfortunately, she sunk mid pacific while under tow. AHCL secured some government backing to build three new Jones Act cruise ships, they saw the economy getting better in the late 1990's/2000, and wanted to move. Unfortunately, the travel industry suffered a major downturn after 9/11 and the company went belly up. NCL bought all three partially complete hulls, and secured Jones Act waivers to finish them overseas. They originally put all three in service under the US flag on various routes, but have since moved two off the US flag.

[@gravelroad1228]

Stephen Britton Thanks for the explanation!

[@MashZ]

Lmao. I cant stop laughing at the ship names. Also, I though SS American Star(aka SS America) sank while being towed. Didn't know there are more American cruise ships facing the same fate

[@stephenbritton9297]

@@MashZ The SS AMERICA broke tow on way to being scrapped and washed ashore in the Canary Islands (no birds were harmed! haha), and has slowly been claimed by the sea!

[@quentinhale9840]

Strictly speaking, it's a big girl ship. 0:28 Vessels are referred to in the feminine

[@Gunitz89]

Well, but, at same time, this law generates a lot of jobs, keep a vital industry, shipbuilding, alive, and dont let dollars go away to other countries, this is a prety smart law in my view

[@kperk87]

Oh hayyyyyy!! I worked on the Pride Of America 2010-2015. The other fun fact about this ship is it was lengthened when Norwegian bought it. So there's a block called 2a. I had friends who worked on the Pride of Aloha(Now the Sky) and the Pride of Hawaii (now the Jade). Due to the law states, Jones Act, there were a few Hawaii based ships that had to do extended day cruises to a small island as their international port because they were not US Flagged ships. I think it was Fanning Island of Kiribati ...anyways....great times. I'll never forget that ship ♥️

[@wsteinhauer]

You are correct sir!

[@a_a7287]

Wendover productions: **stops talking about planes and starts talking about ships** Half as Interesting: **also starts talking about ships** **hmmm...***

[@vyletongue7206]

He's just bi-curious...It'll pass.

[@darnit1944]

Both are actually the same robot that can change its voice module.

[@alaskancabin7506]

I can tell you, as an Alaskan, IT DOES cost more to live here

[@bhatkat]

Yeah, I do imagine that living off the land out in the bush gets pretty old pretty fast, most of those 1970 homesteaders had to quite pretending it was working sooner or later. Was working with Alaskans on the baseball stadium for the university of Hawaii, they weren't thrilled about the high cost of living, at least due north the wages were more in line with it.

[@Shuffler703]

American flagged ships have to meet more safety scrutiny when being inspected also. That goes for any ship, not just cruise ships.

[@homless68]

Shuffler703 False. Since the Titanic there have been multiple international treaties and organizations established to regulate safety of life at sea (SOLAS) & IMO. Read a book!

[@ZolaMagic25]

Lol

[@GeometricMason]

Another Jones Act "hack" for Hawaii is French Polynesia. Some of the cruise lines are now doing 14-day itineraries where the ship starts in Honolulu, bounces around Hawaii for four or five days, then take four days to get to the French Islands, and end in Tahiti. Then then drop those passengers off, pick-up a new set, and do the reverse itinerary and end in Honolulu. Those ships only do that in the winter. In the summer they are in Alaska. So at the beginning and end of the seasons there are requisitioning cruises between Honolulu and Vancouver.

[@brendancarlson1678]

They can also sink Venezuela's naval fleet.

[@cmelton6796]

Venezuela will soon buy those ships as a next-generation fleet

[@marcushoops2488]

Why is there a five minute video to describe how it’s cheaper to register a ship in the bahamas

[@markonikolic7957]

To be fair he did explain the Jones act and it's consequences.

[@gayvideos3808]

He didn't mention the Bahamas

[@odemata87]

It wouldn't be much of a video if he did provide some context for those who genuinely didn't know or never thought about why.

[@achintyagupta3691]

Me: i'm gonna watch just one more half as interesting video Me on my 97th video: just one more

[@jay_mem]

0:45 tell us about this ‘law’ you speak of. i have never even heard of it. i am very curious

[@sarahkoehne]

she protecc she atacc but most importantly... she keeps them cruise ships bacc

[@fmj_556]

One of the best cruises I’ve been on!

[@atmunn1]

Sam seems a little obsessed with Panama this week

[@filthyfacts5100]

Transport Authorities: One American cruise ship in enough. We have more submarines.

[@TheGodSkinApostle]

Filthy Facts America prefers to have cruise missiles instead of cruise ships.

[@filthyfacts5100]

@@TheGodSkinApostle 🤣

[@kurtengel4652]

and as an American, i feel compelled to dump all the tea off of british cruise ships

[@noice2606]

XD

[@poursomebeeronit]

kurt engel We prefer our coffee black and our tea in the harbor!

[@iGuide_net]

Love these short bite videos! Keep up the good work.

[@gaugeth]

I applied and got accepted for a retail position on a cruise ship. I turned it down when they offered me less than $4/hr. I was really confused about their offer, but after watching this, it makes sense

[@lewis7315]

cruise ships work their crews 18 hours a day under horrible working conditions

[@bruhice6058]

Lewis the trade off is that they’re getting a job better than they could in their home country, and have a higher quality of life with room and board provided

[@Tttb95]

Ive talked to a bunch of staff on ships before. Yes they work a lot, and some of them have families they do not see 6-9 months of the year, but they earn way more money (tax free), on these ships than they would on land back home. Tips are also a decent portion of their income, so tip well especially if you enjoy the service :)

[@George-li1yv]

While true it's still much better than their home countries. I work with a lot of Hungarian, Bulgarian and Romania people and they get paid like triple what they would get from a good job in there home country. The hardest workers I've ever met too.

[@JacobJustIts]

Make a video explaining how communications work on a cruise ship! :D

[@donniemontoya9300]

1:00 Except that is literally the definition of what the US did to Hawaii.

[@nmccw3245]

Donnie Montoya - someone was going to. Hawaii was just to important from a strategic location.

[@NamelessVoice808]

There crew likes to stop by a bar here in Honolulu we frequent. They are some of the dopest people.

[@goneutt]

The Jones Act it what Ben Stein was talking about at the board in Ferris Bueller

[@nootics]

That's a weird seaplane, mind giving me the model number? I'm really curious

[@вечная_мерзлота]

When he said "trust me I'm a layer" thats where i turned it off.

[@DissociatedWomenIncorporated]

So there's only one American cruise ship, aaaaaand... it's Norwegian.

[@seneca983]

Though it seems that nowadays that company is domiciled in the US and its parent company in Bermuda.

[@PigeonFlare]

@@seneca983 Yea, it's not Norwegian at all now, and hasn't started out as Norwegian either. The ship was only transferred abroad for repairs due to it sinking, where it sank again.

[@seneca983]

@@PigeonFlare: The company did start as Norwegian though, or at least it was founded by two people in the 60's one of which was Norwegian.

[@DissociatedWomenIncorporated]

It is interesting how time shifts things, especially where reality and convenience meet imaginary human constructs like country borders or, as much of this video illustrated, laws. But I'm still amused by the "contradiction" (and I'm sure many of those Panamanian cruises are really American in terms of who runs them, and that on an Uzbeki cruise ship it's the high seas in more ways than one) 😁

[@zeddex9862]

watching this back is weird, immediately weirded out by how he sounds in the old videos

[@alexunruh]

What these guys are mostly talking about is cabbatauge, same rules apply to all US airlines. It's ment to maintain sea and air lift capabilities incase of war time.

[@Bird_Dog00]

Anti-cabbatauge laws are not uncommon. Though the purpose is to protect local shiping industry from competion from low-cost countries who can offer shiping at dumping prices. When it comes to the Jones Act, the US should have made an exemption for remote locations like Alaska, Haway or Guam. As all it does for those places is raising cost for shiping.

[@itspeter2662]

The Pride of America is owned by - Norwegian! Cruise Lines... This is too good to be true 😅

[@PigeonFlare]

What? No it isn't. It was transferred back to the US a while ago, not sure why the video omitted that.

[@simplefolk8991]

@@PigeonFlare When the hell was it transferred? I've searched and it still belongs to NCL, though of their American subsidiary.

[@theicelyfeice7154]

You are aware that Norwegian Cruise Lines is an American company based out of Miami right?

[@jay_mem]

I know it’s completely unrelated, but I can’t get over that beautiful ‘H’ animation at the start of your videos

[@yungstallion2201]

Imagine working a full one hour to eat an avocado cracker Ahhhh, America

[@PigeonFlare]

Actually, he used San Francisco as his base for the cost, which was recently placed in America's top 5 most expensive cities to live in. Usually, small snacks like that hardly cost over a dollar. The relative cheapness of foods in the US promotes obesity and overeating though, which is why it probably isn't too much of a good thing.

[@nicholasberchert9839]

I like how they showed Sheplers Ferry which only travels 5 miles from Mackinaw City to Mackinac Island. None of which is in international waters (Lake Huron/Lake Michigan)

[@smilingearth5181]

aka Why the US government told cruise lines to get fucked when Corona-chan came along.

[@subashbabu7877]

Well if you’re on a Singaporean cruise ship, chewing gum can be eaten, but cannot be bought/sold

[@sohopedeco]

I was wondering exactly that.

[@rooseveltbrentwood9654]

you shouldn’t eat the gum, just chew it

[@vsync]

@@rooseveltbrentwood9654 Singapore wouldn't mind if people ate it because they just hate gum getting stuck to things. Or is chewing gum considered rude or something? Hmm.

[@rooseveltbrentwood9654]

vsync yes, generally chewing gum in a serious setting is considered rude, especially you are chewing loudly. However it is also important to note that “eat” implies that you swallow the gum.

[@loganw3298]

2:46 I did KNOT catch the joke there.

[@justicefordobby3141]

*big boi ocean ships* jokes on the people who thought this was gonna be professional.

[@drmadjdsadjadi]

I want to take a cruise on a British cruise ship so I can invade and annex other countries for recreational purposes.

[@Chifftie]

Unrelated note: why the fuck did the comment section move?

[@dailydrivers3461]

Please dont refer to Canada as "the not yet United State" 👀

[@techfreak1182]

It's called predicting the future

[@kevinmanfredi1208]

"Believe it or knot..."

[@Tonybronx74]

“Trust me, I’m a lawyer.”

[@DELA.I.HATE.SOUNDCLOUD]

i’ve been on the pride of america in hawaii

[@slapstickcomedy7479]

Congrats on 1M.