Why These 10 Weapons are Worth MASTERING

[@PattycakesGaming]

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[@PeterParker-kr6yr]

Dude, that steak you prepared at 2:03 was straight up raw. With thick cuts of steak you are better off searing them in a hot frying pan and then finishing them off in an oven. This will ensure the steak has a nice crust, retains its juices and is evenly cooked through. Well done at least for trying to cook and as with PvP it takes practice! Thankfully there are many informative videos on KZbin regarding knife skills and how to cook a steak 🥩👍🏻

[@PattycakesGaming]

@@PeterParker-kr6yr It looked way more raw on camera than in person for some reason, it actually was very good IRL. Right around 135-140 F. And yeah I do like to sear + oven or reverse sear too, but in this case I was trying to follow their directions exactly for the video :)

[@Dmacthegoat]

@@PattycakesGaming it looked good to me 😼

[@anotherdood1457]

Surprised there's not the no time to explain on here even as an honourable mention high impact pulse (2 burst) with a hawkmoon eske perk to punish passive players with the buddy and ammo back in the mag on crits

[@theREALp1kles]

"A very accurate lion player can easily wipe a team who isn't respecting those ricochet angels" and "can potentially be a game changer against two similarly skilled teams" are probably my two favorite lines from this video because it's def true on both counts. I understand why people hate GL's and i get it. I'm glad that despite the bias you were able to objectively review it. I disagree with some, agree with other, but i'm bias as well :D

[@M1thicaI]

i just teamed wiped with the fighting lion i would rank it an s teir grenade launcher

[@benjamineyoungop5535]

Played a dude once called nature dragon. Ran double special wit the lion and a shotgun. Was so op

[@Gjerda]

yes skylar YES

[@wrathofthellama4970]

@@benjamineyoungop5535 lion isn’t special tho

[@sirminti8228]

I literally can't use another GL cuz the flying arc and the feel of the fighting lions projectiles is so ingrained in my memory i love it too much to use another special GL

[@MakiPlaysGames]

Me, who helped write the script, at 6:44: "Sometimes, I don't appreciate myself"

[@ericsarsebekov7466]

The best one to master is the Kovostov, it's the most realistic gun in the game and i am waiting for the 1350 soft cap so i can use the kovostov in all of the current raid/PVP/PVPVE

[@ImtherealAB]

The soft cap will be 1500, powerful cap is 1550 and Pinnacle cap is 1560, so a 1350 version might not keep up too well in the raid lol, if you have one character that has the new light quest though you can pick it up at +0 so maybe you can get a 1550-1560 version if you wait to pick it up when you're at that point

[@nickhartcher4409]

replay the original mission. khvostov drops as a pinnacle, you can get a 1330 khvostov

[@Splitstrike_00]

... it's me!!! I'm the asshole who brings kovostov into survival!! XD it's my fav thing to do when i start getting bored in the crucible, just whip out the white AR and Shotty n confuse the shit out of people when they actually start getting kills

[@sadtheog]

You’re sleeping on the pariah the things a beast

[@thewoodencarrot3968]

@@ADUSN it actually was a thing in destiny 1. It had every single RPM for auto rifles AND it could become a pulse and scout. It was really cool. You could customize it all, look it up sometime

[@HCgamer4]

I'm really happy to see some of my favorite weapons on there, it encourages me to keep playing with them. Thanks for all the good info, Patty!

[@strawbs2828]

Tommy’s Matchbook with the new Titan Sunspot healing exotic helm is going to be nutty. Every time you get down to critical health using Tommy’s you’ll just get instant healing and sun warrior (if the helm works how we suspect it will)

[@Butter_Nutty]

they’ll probably add some fat cooldown to it

[@kingofpaty]

Bungie needs to nerf sunspots

[@TheTrickSession]

@@kingofpaty ??????

[@GusCraft460]

Mask of the quiet one or devour plus Tommy’s is already a bit ridiculous.

[@blahsign2561]

@@kingofpaty never heard someone complain about sunspots😭

[@Talliebird]

I believe Suros Regime is one of the best weapons to learn aim tracking with. Maybe it doesn't tick every box of mechanical skill, but it is very good when you get good with it.

[@johnwack225]

I think mastering witherhoard is very good for general game sense. The ability to know which lanes to keep enemies from entering is very valuable in trials and scrims (plus witherhoard is based af)

[@Slimerror]

Im so glad people are realizing tommies matchbooks potential, when it came out up to now it has been my favorite primary. The damage output once youre lit up is crazy and the huge magazine means less reloading between kills which is an ass saver on this weapon because it has a little bit of a slow reload! Exotic pairing for hunters (i know im a stinky hunter main) I seriously think that bombardiers are amazing, almost doesnt matter what subclass your playing for the elemental bombs either! Edit: With solar 3.0 use knock em down trust me you will be rewarded for your good aim!

[@Alucitary]

Devil's Ruin is also worthy of this list imo.

[@erdbeertage4851]

He's taking about skill.

[@Thomas_Cool]

@@erdbeertage4851 1 second charge time that can easily be heard around corners. Best counter for devils ruin is 2 ears and a brain. Devils Ruin is overpowered because it forces people to think, which is nearly impossible.

[@sunshotwithanornament2475]

4:30 I’m just saying I’m kinda cracked if you simply aim well which is unheard of Destiny which is the main reason why I’m not used all the time

[@itsnyxi4932]

Tommy’s matchbook and wormhusk with the reload dodge seems like a good way to negate the burn from the perk

[@usmc4good]

@ItsNyxi the burn damage is from the length of time you hold the trigger while firing, not from the amount of ammo left in the mag, so yes you could dodge and essentially have an even larger magazine, but the burn damage would still be active and chipping away at your health after the dodge.

[@dragonslayer647]

I challenge everyone to slay out with Polaris Lance. Have fun blowing stuff up

[@huntata2360]

A friend of mine absolutely loves using Polaris Lance and getting wonderful 3 taps at mid to long ranges. People don't expect it and have such a hard time fighting it.

[@dragonslayer647]

@@huntata2360 exactly. Plus bottom tree dawnblade makes it disgusting for aoe stuff

[@ricolives1166]

Love Suros Regime but I still don't have catalyst

[@a7sinatra385]

Strong agree on Sunshot. Absolutely love the gun and it made getting better at sniping a ton of fun.

[@Polish_Sausage__]

I’ve improved my overall aiming by learning to use bows in pvp and pve . I think it’s the whole focus on head shots muscle memory

[@shadowranger125]

Cloudstrike is one of my favorite snipers, and I tweeted you my best clip from Survival. I also love my adept Messenger and Reed's in crucible. My Reeds has Heating Up Rampage, which functions similarly to Adagio where I can chain easier and easier body shot kills after the first headshot. My Messenger has Heating Up Desperado, which I'll admit isn't the best, but Heating Up does make Desperado really stable if you can keep the kills going.

[@jimmylundblom9370]

You're the kind of person I wish would stop playing pvp

[@pasta7989]

@@jimmylundblom9370 why?

[@shadowranger125]

@@jimmylundblom9370 Why?

[@jimmylundblom9370]

@@shadowranger125 Cloudstrike and even snipers in general are oppressive guns that can lock down entire lanes by themselves with low to medium skill. Anyone facing it gets punished for even checking for a sniper. And what's worse is that there is no real counter to it other than just not peeking. This leads to an automatic disadvantage due to a lack of info. Trials fixes this a bit by telling you what they have, but stuff like elimination punishes you for not already knowing they have a sniper. Metagaming should never be a thing players should be doing by default.

[@somefishhere]

Thanks for making my heating up desperado seem okay!!! Would you say it’s better than outlaw elemental capacitor

[@fightinglionenjoyer5409]

You mention Epic Defender and not Claytus 420... Check claytus out, he has more than 30k kills on his militias, almost 20k ignition code kills, and 25k kills on his fighting lion... IN PVP. hes insane lol

[@Foxman0004]

My friends play with claytus he’s cracked with GLs

[@naylor7495]

He’s a 1.2💀 mans is booty at the game

[@fightinglionenjoyer5409]

@@naylor7495 Bruh the only thing he plays is comp and trials, and hes on 5500 comp. are you that? yeah didnt think so :)

[@fightinglionenjoyer5409]

@@naylor7495 ok PoopDiaper69

[@jackr.t.4459]

@@naylor7495 KD doesnt = skill exactly, I can match a friend that is a 2.4KD meanwhile I am a 1.3KD, by your logic, I should of been clapped with no kills, unless you are below 1KD, KD is mostly a number, my friend and I agree, you have to watch them to see how skilled they are

[@DreadnButter]

*Dusts off Lucky Pants and The Last Word* "...And he's here to do some business with the big iron on his hip"

[@Ilgazzoo]

I have this very specific "agressive Le Monarque" build i'm working on mastering. Oathkeepers + Le Monarque paired with a slug shottie with max handling (quick charge is important) i run up to people, hip fire then switch to the slug and kill with a body shot. So much fun to use and people never expect you to push so hard with a bow and use it as a close range weapon rather than a lane anchor. Oathkeepers also allow you to only focus on your aim and not worry about keeping the bow stable while you're aping people

[@zoodless]

Brilliant Idea to challange those watching encouraging more engagement with the video and offer some unique fun to someone's game

[@GingerBeardMan977]

I use messenger all the time with devils ruin. Versatile all all ranges and a fusion with unlimited ammo

[@Stephetheon]

that's probably one of the best double primary loadouts a Guardian can run. if those weapons existed in Year One, they'd easily be the meta

[@devon5078]

ur evil lmao

[@lonecalzone6901]

@@Stephetheon god, season

[@RobotTwinkie]

I used to be a fighting lion main in the early seasons. Now I just main sweet business because most people aren't ready for that insane TTK. it's easy to counter me by peaking with a hand cannon or sniper, but other then that I win any and all gunfights at full spin

[@nathancawley8759]

Really wish I could get an adept messenger, but it's locked behind never losing in a game mode that I loathe.

[@CodyYoshida]

I've been using the Cloudstrike in PvP since it was first obtainable and it's surprising how satisfying it is to use! I combo that with my favourite roll of the Fatebringer (Killing Wind and Kill Clip) and get triples with Cloudstrike for days. If I were to post the amount of clips I have of me doing it, it would make a small maybe one minute montage but it's so much fun. If I needed a shotgun though, I go with Duality with the same setup. Not sure why but i've always leaned to having an exotic being my special weapon since I started in Season of Arrivals and never looked back

[@adamherzing7330]

15:07 that Yoda scream had me scrambling for some high ground

[@burna.k.a.turtleonalog4327]

Try devil's ruin with kepris horn on behemoth for shiver strike. No one will know how to counter you if you know how to use kepris and are good enough with swapping between the beam and just normal sidearm modes

[@Hynra]

I dont know if you'd allow sunset weapons but I believe Hush can either be very rewarding in the hands of a good player but punishes you so hard if you miss that initial hip-fire shot. I still hope that one day Archer's Gambit would return to this game on a non-sunset precision frame as wielding such weapon feels so satisfying once you can consistently hit that headshot hip-fire using either icarus grip for more in-air movement capability or freehand grip to make that hip-fire shots more accurate. Not to mention that with a bow you need to always time when to draw your bow in and out of cover or do a draw-cancel which makes oathkeeper's exotic perk mostly useless.

[@anamelesscommenter9700]

makes me wonder if the new trials weapon is a bow

[@38mb.]

i'd KILL for an exotic stasis bow with archer's gambit on

[@flameheart7666]

Have you tried divinity? The bubble makes it so people can’t hide and if you are getting hit by it, you have screen effects and a load of flinch that make it tricky to counter

[@Jamesssssssssssssss]

I keep coming back to this video, great tips in here.

[@Gjerda]

Yessss the Lion love 🦁💛

[@ManiaMac1613]

Here's the thing with Frozen Otbit; you don't need Kill Clip for a body shot. If you're in an Empowering Rift, you can one-tap any Guardian running 30 Resilience or less.

[@who_be_dis8356]

I think cloudstrike is honestly one of the absolute best snipers in the game. Despite being a 140, that headshot explosion is pure devastation, and I'd argue the archetype makes it so much easier to hit those headshots.

[@LeadCodpiece]

@Duk3 It has worst flinch on PC

[@who_be_dis8356]

@Duk3 that's just..... Not correct

[@carterz9343]

@@who_be_dis8356 I've had times it bugs and doesn't flinch, but most of the time it gets flinched as hard as Uzume for me. The inconsistency on PC makes me frustrated because I'll find myself in duels where I'm way more tempted to try to shoot than reposition because there's a chance I'll be able to shoot through the gunfire.

[@biohazard724]

The MIDA pair is really underrated as far as skilled play goes. They reward high situational awareness and map knowledge with being too mobile to pin down. Multi tool has a slow ttk but you shouldn't be dueling with it (that's mini tool's job), you want to ambush opponents dropping them before they can respond

[@peepoopsplash]

Suros, double targeting, double reload and double unflinching and shred. Got to know it well when finishing the catalyst and I LOVE to run it in everything but trials or comp.

[@Nero7441]

I see that you were on a hunter wearing Lucky Pants and using Last Word. Would you say it is still usable on a Warlock or Titan with no exotic to give it accuracy or ready speed using MnK.

[@William_The_Saint]

0:51 That Lego Yoda scream got me lol

[@cameroncousins4541]

I use hawkmoon as my primary exotic and the dead man's as my secondary exotic they are both fun and great weapons.

[@neon9152]

Frozen Orbit hipfire kills at in-your-face range are why I even play this game. Good vid as always.

[@ferarii9516]

I don’t have the clip (I do have the screenshot of the score board after). But I got a Rumble “We Ran” running messenger/duality/LFR. Prolly one of (if not the) best game I’ve had

[@Sebastian.Van.A]

I thought i was the only one with adagio on my reeds adept haha. That feeling when you're popping off 5 kills 😍

[@TheJamrockJay]

I thought you were done with falling off the cliff? My image of you is shattered, shatter I say! Thanks for another top notch video brother.

[@EloquentTroll]

I am using DMT to great effect on console, but don't forget the other skill level up, when to actually ADS with it. Probably less of a deal on M&K, but it can make a difference in controller. Also the iron sight on the Dead Man's Revenge ornament is more friendly than the base weapon's sight. You're trading a lot of cowboy aesthetic in the bargain though.

[@someguy1365]

Mida Mini-tool and Mida Multi-tool. If you can balance double primary effectively, you're already one of the biggest threats in the lobby without question. Pair it with some neutral game boosts, and you've got a player that hardly ever loses a 1v1.

[@danielsterling4918]

Im willing to bet when the "nerf" to the special ammo economy comes around, you'll see a bit more double primary goin on

[@someguy1365]

@@danielsterling4918 probably not enough to write home about, tbh. Special weapons will still have 100% uptime with the "nerf".

[@Gokotta1776]

I want to love the sun shot. The feels squishy. Between the 'wet' noise it makes when shooting and the visuals. Makes it tough to get behind. Thoughts?

[@toxicear5274]

Can you make one with the most shitty weapons? I find more enjoyment out of mastering a crappy gun than a meta gun tbh.

[@lonecalzone6901]

ok go ahead find a way to make skyburners good (please do it’s such a cool gun why is it so horrible)

[@nicholasbaker2904]

I suck at sniping but the potential of cloudstrike keeps making me try to get better at it. Hopefully a catalyst will make it easier to use for poor schlubs like myself.

[@nats4654]

Thanks for giving inspiration to what to use in this meta (:

[@dougcarey2233]

I got a random Sunshot to drop just the other day. It's hands down my favorite weapon. I know people don't like the muzzle flash and recoil, but it reminds me of a real Dan Wesson 0.44 mag, so it feels good to use.

[@gymbro8928]

Thank you for giving credit to messenger... most people with pulses are bad but when u find one person who consistently makes those two taps dudes damn near unstoppable

[@MrPope7]

I just got back into Destiny 2 after 5 years and to see Sunshot - one of the few exotics I own - in this list was super encouraging haha

[@mcgikle]

Very cool concept for a video and execution. Ty. :)

[@arakemi1080]

im happy sunshot gets featured, everybody thinks its trash because its a 150 hc, energy slot and exotic. sunshot is a literal solar well and warmind generating beast in raids, i literally go on mass genocidal sprees in raids when im not needed for my not so common ideas.

[@lefrostyfed]

I've been using the Sunshot for a little bit now and it feels so satisfying to land the 3 tap

[@WXYKE]

I know cryosthesia won't be here, but I love that damn thing. It's easy to use, but mastering it isn't as simple

[@skalman5647]

My only 50 killstreak game ive gotten was a 60 K/D game with triple grenade launchers. And that 4 days before they added the 50 killstreak medal and i havent gotten it since

[@CharlieTPete]

My face when I'm watching this and see "pattycakes defends Antonio Margheriti" at 3:43......and I'm Antonio Margheriti....Thanks for the save bro.

[@joeygarcia6120]

I agree with the fighting lion and the Messenger being the top 2.

[@dakotacoble2895]

0:52 Pattycakes: *Dies* Shaxx: "I've seen enough." 😢😔

[@KungFuMunkeyz]

“Not a lot of choices to oneshot anymore”. ‘Laughs in invis firmly planted fusion rifle’

[@theamazinglordmilo9608]

as a devout matchbook main I can confirm, tough to get the hang of but tons of fun once you get used to always being on fire.

[@The_Ragequit_Cannon]

I think Outbreak Perfected deserves a second look as well. It's criminally underrated simply because "it's not Messenger so it sucks"

[@SampleChan]

Its ttk is worse, but the hidden perk boosting accuracy when firing at max rpm is definitely under-rated I love the gun when messing around in quickplay, especially paired with chromatic fire

[@d43m0n412]

lol coming from least skill intensive weapon ever to exist... but i digress... alot of people dont consider the outbreak perfected to be a skill intensive weapon because it has almost 0 if not actually 0 recoil on both sticks/mnk so it the bullets will always go where you aim with very small deviation and also with enough nanites you can kill 2-3 people without even needing a trigger pull... so yeah...

[@The_Ragequit_Cannon]

@@d43m0n412 It's higher skill than you think. Because it's TTK is less than most other competitive pulses, you need to stay on target longer. And in a firefight, every nanosecond counts, as anyone who plays PvP even slightly competitively should know. It's easy to shoot but it still has limitations you need to account for. Think about it like this. You could take the weapon that's currently the most broken and OP and put it in the hands of a noob, and they're still gonna play like shit, they'll just be getting more kills than they normally would. Ascendant Nomad did a great video discussing Outbreak you should take a look at

[@hbojang7861]

Does epic defender have a stream or you tube channel ID love to see the double GL.in action, I'm a GL main and enjoy watching others put there spin on it

[@Langston42]

As a slightly biased sidearm main I’d say maybe add Traveler’s Chosen or Drang to the list. Going sidearm v shotgunners has been a great way to teach myself about distance management and use of cover in close to mid range duels.

[@sirwaddles5553]

Tommy’s matchbook is one of the best guns in the game it is so good because look at how does it doesn’t have that higher ofdamage but likeIt shoots so fast and the fire damage makes it so much better

[@deezybe9489]

I have to say that I love using just about all the weapons you suggested

[@exendary8366]

8:43 man blinked into another map

[@TheDeerInTheHeadligh]

ah, tommy's matchbook is an old favorite of mine. my hand cannon aim has never been great so i used to use tommy's instead of last word when i sniped. paired great with top tree dawn and my (unfortunately sunset) god roll bite of the fox. i should bring them back out to play sometime...

[@theanomaloushendo4516]

Gonna be honest, I'm the complete opposite, my tracking is horrible, and my flicks are great, so I use tommy's d so I can get better with them

[@deadwarriorw1225]

I've been running tommy's recently using bottom tree nova and more recently bottom tree dawn, and they've been working pretty well together, any warlocks who wanna pick it up for a bit, give it a shot

[@edwardlilley1705]

Smart, with devour that could be filthy.

[@38mb.]

@@edwardlilley1705 devour's a ton harder to activate in pvp now cuz you cant eat the grenade. but running empowering rift and child of the old gods might be good?

[@BombasticBooger]

actually about Last Word, i’m pretty sure you can get a bit of ghost bullets, i’ve shot an AFK player and sometimes the bullets just fade into the void, hence why cammycakes recommends using a HC targeting or lucky pants since it regains some of that consistency and adds accuracy

[@lucas_theofficial5230]

I was using the crisis inverted and was surprised by it, its a legendary hand cannon no one uses, and I was doing 70 damage a head shot, and it had range comparable to ace of spades if not better, and since it’s a legendary, I could slap on the full auto mod, which btw that adds a little firing speed, so I was just destroying people with it

[@howlindamusic4948]

Personally I found the last word was hard to master when it first was changed to have its main damage on hip fire but I find the gun so satisfying to use still

[@burns0100]

It is hard, you really do swap your playstyle with it and learning how to pace your shots vs go full auto with the gun is another big change. My favourite gun still, just so much satisfaction from going on kill streaks with it.

[@regaliaex1338]

In my opinion, a weapon in this current sandbox (I say current because of the buff coming in a few days) that rewards skill is Tarrabah. You build a charge that gives an insane ttk by consistently winning gunfights. But the drawback is it requires complete dedication to the weapon. Any swaps removes the only benefit to running it, so you have to keep an eye on how you move and where enemies are to avoid having to swap/die. It’s a weapon that greatly rewards accuracy and awareness, and has a good punishment if you fail.

[@indysrebel5181]

I’m gonna do the fighting lion one since I’m trying to get my catalyst done for witherhoard.

[@prollychiefin6470]

sojourners tale. if you can learn to hit your headshots and connect on flicks, you will win most if not all gunfights (except the sniper chappie). for a legendary shotgun, it sure feels like an exotic with the right roll

[@dytolius]

Not only did you include hand cannons on this list but you included hawkmoon,last word,AND DMT. what PACK you smokin brother

[@inmortalgalaxy5240]

In general, I think that quick swapers on bows needs good timing and a good skill. I don't know if it's different on PC, but at least in control it's even harder to dominate. I agree that is pretty frustrating to be killed by one but it needs a lot of practice to doing perfect

[@swetybollz5388]

I started of with LW on mnk but i went back to controller and its even better

[@pukipuki6712]

Just went on a 7 loss streak in trials because most of the enemies had triple Deadmans tale, 20 players in seven rounds whooped my ass with DMT.

[@seanchristian7677]

The weapons weren’t the reason for a 7 loss streak

[@renatovujicic2148]

@@seanchristian7677 true

[@theherooftime209]

I don’t have a clip but I cought someone mid slide my n the center point trying to cap on Javalin-4 he slid out of cover with chappy I got a single shot off and apparently got a team wipe with cloud strike. Iron banner makes people crazy.

[@irawilliams4890]

Nice to see some love for Suros. It’s my favorite crucible weapon

[@jeremiahrose4428]

0:11 All Monarqe users: THEY'RE ONTO US!!!

[@crystalfox3463]

I love the lion in pvp and pve

[@Luzaku_kiss]

Fun Fact: I have a frozen orbit that has really good hipfire accuracy. Sometimes I think the *hipfire* is more accurate than ADS.

[@goldenphoenix3626]

i play controller and love last word, ive used it since before I knew i would get hated on. i also love jotuun.

[@Gilbert3171]

I mastered fighting lion a long time ago, I have almost 3k crucible kills on it and its what I used to get mountaintop, I have a separate one for pve so I dont ruin my kill tracker too

[@DaddyMo444]

You said that the sunshot isn't too hard to get good with,& I say that's an understatement..lol.. After I bought mine from Xur a few weeks ago.I wasn't expecting much out of it to be honest.I was just thrilled to finally be getting my 1st exotic Hand Cannon. I was excited to try it out so I equipped it & dropped into SkyWatch on the Cosmodrome to insure that there will be plenty of enemies for me to see if it'd be good enough for me to take on a wide selection of enemies that are all crammed inside a tight space without,dying,being forced to flee,or require on a help from a team.

[@lonecalzone6901]

sure it’d work but never in an equal or higher light level activity solo, not even the absolute best ad clear exotics like trinity catalyst or fighting lion would let you breeze through like that

[@capital_underscore3472]

Ad ends at 2:26

[@mcgikle]

MVP

[@justbe3713]

Cloud Strike gives massive giggles when you hit that multi kill.

[@Soapwunnn22222]

I love using the adept iggy brings chills to my skin

[@shadowofsunderedstar679]

If I'm not mistaken you can still one shot body shot with a single rampage stack on a LFR, which makes it preferably to adagio since you don't incur the charge time penalty

[@Velocity3600]

yeah definetly trying out sunshot and maby with some other explosive exotics like bombadeers (probably spelled that wrong)

[@juliemuncy1764]

Suros is so, so slept on. Whenever I use it, halfway through the match I see several other players switch to it.

[@konkyrong2130]

I would've loved to see no time to explain I've been using getaway artists and arc soul rifts trying to get time chasam and and arc soul at the same time to melt people

[@sadlittlewizard7188]

I'm watching this from mobile, but as soon as I'm home i want to link my 5 kill cloudstrike shot. Still my favorite crucible moment to date!

[@eri_sister_of_aerial]

Patty: Puts SUROS & Tommy's on list Sweet Business Chad Mains: *Do we look like a joke?* Long live Sweet Business, #SweetBusinessMain

[@somehistorynerd]

“Aiming Is For Poor People”

[@eri_sister_of_aerial]

@@somehistorynerd "Aiming is for Poor People" copyright TDT Productions

[@Ultraninetyeight]

I’ve gotta add forerunner to this list. I’ve gotten over 3k kills on the thing since it’s dropped and I’ve gotta say that when you get really well with map positioning and tracking heads at mid to long range you become almost unstoppable. Ammo economy is its biggest weakness but being able to pace shots and conserve ammo from accurate 3 taps at a competitive .60 ttk up to 50 meters makes it a menace. I feel like no one uses it anymore but I would definitely recommend giving it a second opinion. It’s criminally underrated.

[@Crimsomreaf5555]

Wish I could get messenger and other trials stuff, but I'm shit in pvp

[@burns0100]

Don't hate on the Last Word, even on controller. I've swapped from Ace to Thorn to Last Word and have slowly been working on map awareness, gun range and recoil control. I've legit won gun fights at ranges I should have by actually using the map to my advantage and tap firing last word. Like the new map just added, Disjunction. That whole outside area with all those rocks and hills, well who'd of guessed blinking around that area with Last Word makes you a deadly assassin. Like people just can't keep up, most people on that map are using long range weapons so once you're close range it's over. Also Last Word gives you access to radar and more reliable movement with no strafe penalty from aiming. So you can really walk circles around people while perfectly nailing that 3 hit kill. Once you've master Last Word your map knowledge sky rockets, it's crazy how much more I know, from blind spots on maps to close in on campers with snipers to straight up spawn killing. IB Rift helped with that one. Played 50 games and got 600 kills on the weapon. Still think Ace of Spades and such are better but nothing feels better then going on a killing spree with Last Word.

[@urara1501]

I'm a MnK Last Word user. And I love the weapon although it makes me sometimes feel like a masochist.