Why These Cars Were a Pain to Drive!

[@tedlym.3390]

I own a1983 Allante and I do consider it to be beautiful and have not had any issues driving it. Thank you,

[@itsnotme07]

Not sure I'd call a Pontiac Fiero a "nightmare" to drive, but it was pretty stupid of GM to use Chevette/Citation parts on what should have been the coolest sports car ever. Nightmare to drive category? 1976 Buick Electra 225. 233 inches long, or 19.5 feet. My brother owned one and came home to visit when I just had my permit. I decided I was going to visit a friend who lived down the street from my brother so when he went home, I went with him. He said I could drive. Ok. It was great until the adventure missing parked cars on both sides of the street AND a school bus coming up. Nothing was hit but that Buick NEVER bounced so much. He didn't let me drive his ride after that, even when I got my license. Haha.

[@bradschroeder809]

Some of the criticisms noted were more what I’d call disappointments not nightmares. A 60s/70s Musclecar with manual steering, manual transmission and non power 4 wheel drum brakes, along with little to no insulation or decent ventilation, on a summer day, is what I’d call a beauty but a nightmare to drive!

[@The_R-n-I_Guy]

The Mercury Cougar started out as Mustang based, but then moved to the Thunderbird platform. The one shown in the video is the Thunderbird platform

[@rx794]

I’d vote to take the Corvette C2 off this list. First American four wheel independent suspension and four wheel disc brakes. At the time it was a great handling car. It can’t compare to new cars today, but even against today’s standards, it handles pretty well.

[@LOOKEYHEARSAY]

I call bull! The Fiero was the best lil sport car I owned! Fast and sleek! The issue was the engine fires which were caused by wiring which I fixed before the news came out, There was No recall either, the electric wiring was touching the cotton hood cover and got hot causing the fires! I saw the burnt strip and tied the wires with electric tape away from the hood!

[@anastassiosperakis2869]

the whole video was BS from start to finish.

[@LarsonPetty]

Dude also said the Pacer was a great looking car, and earlier said Alpha Romero.

[@markrunyon5524]

By 1955 you could get a 265 v8 in a corvette,it was faster than almost every other american car at the time.I was told by a tow company owner that the Fiero,could only be towed with a roll back.The doors could fly open if towed with a regular wrecker and the whole car could fold up.Oh.there"s no R in Alfa Romeo.

[@joestahl3377]

the tow company was full of chit.

[@dmandman9]

Only the 1987-1988 had the dismal 9+ second 0-60 times. They were equipped with a 4.1 liter 170 hp engine. The 200 hp 4.5 editions built from 1989-1992 had a 0-60 time of 7.9 seconds. But the engine pictured in the video is the Northstar 4.6 liter it’s anything but sluggish. It had 295 hp and a very respectable 6.4second 0-60 time it was a one year only production in 1993. You might want to note that fact, especially since you showed the most powerful engine as you were stating the dismal performance numbers.

[@r90fan1]

Didn't you get the message? accuracy doesn't matter anymore.

[@dmandman9]

@@r90fan1 I’m hoping that it was an oversight rather than simply being sloppy.

[@r90fan1]

@@dmandman9 I agree with you, it's such a common problem though I don't know.

[@madmike2624]

Great video as usual. you guys keep up the great work!!

[@honestone490]

The Studebaker Avanti which later became simply the Avanti II is another car you could have showcased in this video.

[@THROTTLEPOWER]

Great vid!! 🤜🤛

[@johnnymula2305]

The Amc Pacer was actually designed for the rotary motor. GM pulled the plug on selling the motor to AMC at the last minute because of reliability issues. Which forced amc to install the 258. Jeep motor. Which was a tragic decision.

[@m1t2a1]

If a licorice dispenser was a standard part of every Pacer, it might still exist. (the licorice dispenser) Long live the Mirth Mobile.

[@user-vl8sw7kg7y]

I drove a 1968 Chevrolet Nova with a 250 inline 6. A Great car with Great fuel economy.

[@Funsho97]

Where do y'all get your information from, I mean totally criticizing the 1st gen Corvette because of its lack of amenities, really? It was a bare bones spots car, or was supposed to be anyway. By the time the C3 had come along Zora Arkus-Duntov had been developing the Corvette into a true performer instead of a cruiser. Another thing to consider is that American cars of the 50s, 60s, and 70s were not known for their handling abilities, it was mainly all about straight line performance at that time or soft cushy riding vehicles.

[@OLDS98]

Interesting picks for the list. Great footage as well. You know the later Cadillac Allante's had more power from the Northstar V8. The early ones had the 170 hop 4100 V8. I enjoyed watching the featured content. As far as the Pontiac Fiero by the time GM got it right, the stopped making the car. I was shocked to see the Mercury Cougar on the list as it was a great seller.

[@stevejarred6484]

I think the Cougar that should of made the list is the last gen one that was more of a Miata. Not surprising because Mazda was a part of Ford at the time.

[@OLDS98]

@@stevejarred6484 You are referring to the last Mazda based one that was supposed to replace the Ford Probe and that one was sold in Europe as the Ford Cougar. I do not think that one was popular. Maybe they were trying to take it back to its roots how it started in the 1960's. I do see your point.

[@Channel38ScottTV]

I had 2 out of the 10: My first car was a '72 Nova SS and I loved it! Drove it like I was in the Duke's of Hazzard! LOL also, I had an '88 Fiero GT and yeah, it was a nightmare!!! 😀

[@squirrley9]

The video creator was really off base.

[@kenlichtig8024]

I once owned a 1976 AMC Pacer D/L with a 258 I4 engine with a 3 speed a/t. It was easy to drive without any wallow

[@why2g482]

What’s an Alfa Romero? Lol great vid ✌🏽

[@michaelprice9884]

My 70 Nova was good enough for me I loved it

[@robertvance1873]

And the Fiero eventually got a V6

[@davewaters2841]

Surprised to see the corvette on this list....twice! Viper? Not surprised on that one....

[@tedlym.3390]

I was surprised by the Corvette being on this list also.

[@kfh1]

I owned an 84 Fiero, and I drove that thing for ten years. I didn't think it was that bad at all, that is until I got my 94 Camaro Z28... Now that car was a blast to drive!!!

[@kylebrown6951]

🤣🤣🤣 AMC Pacer, Wow that's a fish bowl on wheels. That many BIG windows I bet you would or should use sunblock to drive to grocery store 😜. The Chevy Nova did look sharp but that full bench front seat was good for only one thing Drive in Movies with your girl made Necking way easier 😘. The DeLorian also wasn't car to own if you did alot of drive through meals because the windows don't roll down 😖😔 and yes NO power it took a whole day to go from 0-60 🤔 umm not really but it felt like it, a friend's Dad owned one and yeah wasn't impressed looked kool though. Hey guys another well put together video posting 👍👍👍👍. The channel just keeps getting better n better. Did you happen to have or get any info on Cadillacs El Camino type vehicle..?? This is one if not my best subbed channels 👍😎🍻✌️👋

[@jimowens381]

The Pacer seriously reminds of a character from Close Encounters of a third kind.

[@geraldscott4302]

I bought a brand new base model Pontiac Fiero in 1986. 2.5L four/5 speed. Only options were dealer installed alloy wheels and a deck lid luggage rack. It was gold with a tan interior. I absolutely loved that car. It was my first, and only, new car. I kept it for 11 years and put over 180,000 miles on it, and never had any problems. Yes, when you got into the V6 models, I can see how they could have some issues. The Fiero was never designed for the 2.8, they just crammed it in there, and it was virtually impossible to work on. The original GT front fascia, and later GT rear end were never part of the original design either, just like the extra instrument pod that was just stacked on top of the original. The Fiero was originally designed to be an affordable, sporty, commuter car that would be a blast to drive. And it succeeded brilliantly. But because it looked like a sports car, people started complaining because it didn't perform like a sports car, so GM started trying to improve its performance. The price went through the roof, and things started to go wrong. Roger BS decided to cancel it. The Fiero incorporated some amazing new construction technology. Its price was kept down by using a lot of existing components that worked fine. In every way, the original was a huge success. I used to belong to the FOCOA (Fiero Owners Club of America) If you can find a copy, I suggest reading the book Fiero: Pontiac's Potent Mid Engine Sports Car, by Gary Witzenburg, for a ton of information about the Fiero, from concept to the sad ending.

[@ThisOldCarChannel]

Thanks so much for all of the information you've provided. That's what the channel is all about!

[@donziperk]

My friend has a Fiero with a small block in it he did a lot of re-engineering and in the end its a great car. With 375 hp it is very fast.

[@imrytebeehyneu]

Allante. Yeah it's gorgeous

[@bloodrosereaper2099]

Seeing the DMC-12 here hurts, but I'm not blind enough to know the engine was about as powerful as a hamster wheel under a light breeze.

[@chitown1098]

Surprising the ‘65 and ‘66 Mustang were not mentioned. Both years looked great but drove like trucks. This highly undesirable characteristic continued on with the Mustang for several model years to come.

[@davedavis775]

This list definitely has some issues . You could get the Nova SS with the 396 / 350 or 375 h.p. in 1968 . Most vehicles made in the 60's and 70's had multiple engine options depending on your wallet . The C1 had its issues but by 56 it was looking much better than the 53 - 55 cars . 63 - 67 Corvettes were not terrible either . Most fun I have had was driving a friend's 65 Corvette Stingray coupe with 327 / 365 engine 4 speed transmission with 4.11 gearing and side exhaust. I have driven some really awesome Vettes over the years .

[@lifeuptown7516]

Nice 👍🏾

[@ThisOldCarChannel]

Thanks

[@jeanhansen3016]

I always wanted a 1979 Mercury Cougar.

[@stevejarred6484]

Why is the Allante on the list and not it's competition the - the Maserati TC by Chrysler? Even though the Chrysler had a 16 valve head, the rest of the engine was still only a Chrysler 2.2 liter turbo (Until Chrysler offered a Mitsubishi V-6) and everyone thought the TC was a tarted up Chrysler Le Baron convertible when you parked them side-by-side

[@ThisOldCarChannel]

Time constraints and popularity

[@DRILL-SGT.HARTMAN]

I owned a Nova SS, there was nothing wrong with that car. It was per the time period. Of course it wasn't a Rolls-Royce. There was nothing wrong with a Mercury Cougar either. I'm not feeling this channel.

[@The_R-n-I_Guy]

I don't agree with pretty much anything you said here. But I enjoy looking at the pictures. And I like your other videos. You don't always get things right. But you always have entertaining videos

[@MostlyBuicks]

You showed the 1993 4.6 liter Northstar engine in the Allante, which had 295 HP. I THINK you meant its original 1987 engine the 4.1 and then the 4.5 engine both which were underpowered. Credibility takes a hit AGAIN.

[@tima6549]

Uh, there wasn't anything wrong with the Nova. It drove perfectly fine and had reliable powertrains. And the Pacer was an ugly car that drove just fine though it wasn't powerful. I can think of many other cars that should be on this list than the ones picked. Who selected these cars ? 🤔

[@CAROLDDISCOVER-FINDER2525]

I had a fiero and it worked all right. Best thing about it was I bought a car that was maybe 2 years old for $100 and then turn around so that flower pot for 3500 ish. The iron Duke still likes to catch on fire in postal delivery vans.

[@christopherkraft1327]

Great list guys, I always enjoy your videos!!! 👍👍🎄☃️

[@theangrycamper]

Whoa, you changed your name!!

[@davidhewitt7315]

Didn't really talk about 'nightmare', 9sec 60mph doesnt make it a nightmare. You didnt describe the nightmare on the rest either.

[@valerianportus7409]

Lambo Countach, Was a complete disaster to drive. The build quality was awful. The rear diff could grenade if you pushed it. The clutch required effort that would have made Arnold think it was a work out. The AC almost non-existent. The Windows hardly worked and leaked. And finally, the fuel system leaked like a sprinkler and would fill the cabin with the smell of gasoline.

[@joellamoureux7914]

Number 1. 1971 mach one mustang. What a terrible rude ride.

[@kennethanway7979]

All but the delorean were pretty good cars.

[@tonywestvirginia]

Chrysler was called the "Misfire"

[@gene978]

AMC PACER and GREAT LOOKING CAR, in the SAME SENTENCE? ? ?~!!! I guess when you’re stoned all the time. 😂

[@WhittyPics]

Will a Delorian even do 88 MPH?

[@louism8217]

Sure will! Down a steep downhill with a strong tailwind lol

[@robertvance1873]

Allante 4.5 yes probably 200 HP BUT the Bigger Northstar put out more than 300 HP

[@mustangmike8515]

I always wonder why the second gen Corvette only lasted 5 years comparing the 9 year generic 1st gen and the 14 year horrible ugly 3rd gen. Driving the 2nd gen was a nightmare even if it is the only nice looking Corvette of all time.

[@trainglen22]

The Pacer wasn't a bad car nor was the Nova SS. The Fierro was a nightmare when first introduced. By the time it was a decent car, GM dropped it.

[@jimhernandez3563]

Like I told the Pontiac salesman: "Maybe 2M4, but 4M certainly not 8." 😊

[@jkholley1118]

I disagree on the Nova, i loved the 3 i owned and would love to have one now.

[@jimbo97]

I've always loved the looks of the AMC Pacer, but never had one (luckily?). My favorite Porsche is the 914... what styling!! But I think only a midget would like driving one.

[@LarsonPetty]

That's not a 1st Gen Corvette.

[@CAROLDDISCOVER-FINDER2525]

The Chevy Nova well I had a 77 and it was actually a two-door police interceptor car. I had two more that were high performance options as well as a Nova with a 250 inline 6 cylinder. They all did well on gas they handled decent to the curves compared to anything else on the road at the time. Also anova wasn't really a muscle car it was just a cheap little hot rod at the time. There were arguments for years if they should be called a muscle car.

[@davidjackson2524]

A beauty but a nightmare to drive? The Lamborghini Countach? It's got hardly any rear view window.

[@valerianportus7409]

That's the least of its problems. Yes, I've driven. No I would never do it again.

[@blacksitearea]

A sport car doesn't equal to a racing car. European GT class fits more to it, may be?

[@michaelcoffey7362]

Cool :)

[@ashleygroome1555]

never in the field of automotive history, has so much junk been made by so few for so many.

[@nate678]

1:02 ..... and Coca-Cola... and Suzuki 😄

[@user-by7by8bp2h]

A Nova can't handle ? Well I guess you better put the Camaro in this b.s. because they both share the same platform. I've owned Novas for over 25 years and never had a problem with it handling. I don't know where you got your information but clearly it was really wrong.

[@dameon2170]

Feels off i can think of worse cars to drive

[@bluemut55]

"Pinan Fria'? "Alfo Romero" showing a Cougar that wasn't a derivative of a Mustang? The Cougar was a fast car but was not designed to be a mustang, it was more personal luxury. There's more but this clip was just sad and not accurate in many aspects.

[@jimowens381]

And what about the Plymouth Prowler. Great looks, awful performance.

[@blackrichard1029]

So much potential for an interesting vid but.....

[@anastassiosperakis2869]

You should pull back the video from Utube and FIX All the RIDICULOUS CLAIMS you make. LOOK AT THE DAMNED COMMENTS AND WISE UP.

[@patcurrie9888]

All underpowered except first gen Viper, come on! No mention of HP. First thumbs down I've shared with you. Should have been Christmas shopping instead. Asking for 100,000 subscribers is like nails on a chalkboard after this lame vlog.

[@tjb3454555150]

Fiero,,, Beautiful?? Please.

[@danr1920]

The Allante looks like a K Car in a bad way. Not good looking.

[@bdd1469]

Tell us you've never driven a nice C2 Corvette or Nova SS, without saying you've never driver a nice C2 or Nova SS. They drive fine, even great, compared to some other cars of that Era.