Why this $20k EV will Disrupt City Transport: Arcimoto CEO Interview

[@hoffmantnt]

Great editing and use of B-roll to make an interview visually interesting and much more informative!

[@barnabasseadog7660]

I will be taking delivery of my FUV within this month. I just cannot wait to start my commute with this ride. It is a twenty mile one way route with city and freeway driving. Being less dependent on oil and gas should be awesome. The ability to use the HOV lane alone and escape paying for commercial parking lots makes me feel illicitly salacious. Plugging in at night to charge up should be no worse than charging a scooter or Onewheel. Total cost for me is $24K with doors and lockbox, tax, fees and everything else. Which currently in SoCal, is cheaper than anything else, new or used. Except maybe an ElectraMeccanica Solo. See you at Fully Charged Live.

[@anthonysmithtube]

Great episode- I absolutely love Arcimoto and am invested- I could not agree more with your views on the insanity of 'the bigger, the better' approach.

[@mikemunro7223]

Me too, love them, highly invested. feeling like the growth curve may be a bit slow. I personally would inquire to franchise this production system, use all their proven parts and design, purchase and build a manufacturing facility and tool it up.

[@jandegrande1218]

As a Belgian Arcimoto investor, would love to see this vehicle on sale in Europe, could be a gamechanger over here !

[@superfly19751]

For sure!!

[@MrEddiekessler]

I have been a shareholder of FUV since their first appearance on "Now you Know " about a year ago. I blew all my spare cash £25,000 GBP on TE$LA @ $50.70 last Oct just a couple of weeks before I saw that piece, So as a pensioner I can only afford $200 a month on Fuv shares ever since. I know there is a huge market for their 3 wheeler and they will make me as much money with FUV as I have made with TE$LA. I just hope they come to an agreement with TE$LA for this brand new battery tech to be anounced on the 22nd. Eddie in Scotland. Not selling a single share of either one, till I retire in about 7 years.

[@chillspike_gameplay]

Amen brother.

[@karenhwtt]

I just ordered my FUV after being on the wait list for a couple of years. I currently drive a Nissan Leaf I’ve had since 2013 (I leased it for 3 years and then purchased it). I have been impressed with the reduced maintenance costs of the electric cars as well as the convenience of charging at home. I love motorcycles but live in The PNW where the weather is cool and rainy most of the time. I ordered the doors on the FUV. The Leaf is perfect, but the FUV looks like so much fun. It’s a fun vehicle- not just a commuter. I also live in a “Golf cart” community and can use that to go to town as well. Love the concept!

[@jacksonbangs6603]

My patents just took delivery of their very own Arcimoto FUV. It realy is a Fun Utility Vehicle.

[@TwoBitDaVinci]

that’s awesome, we’ve been in touch with the CEO Mark, and we’re glad to hear it! Maybe we can do a zoom call?

[@GruniTheThird]

$20k is wayyyyyyyy too expensive as an additional vehicle. a $2k e-bike will most likely be the go-to choice for people until they can reduce the price of this thing.

[@dewiz9596]

That’s why they’ve hooked up with Sandy Munro. . . to develop the manufacturing efficiencies to get the price down .

[@chuckm260]

In addition to Bram's comment, Arcimoto is using a similar model as with a lot of start-ups (e.g. Tesla, Rivian, etc) where initial sales come from the their higher end model which is the Evergreen (model/trim) FUV. Arcimoto plans on eventually selling a much cheaper model, I believe around $10k, after they have generated some revenue from the Evergreen and now also the Deliverator and Rapid Responder sales. Pricing was one of the areas TBD and Mark unfortunately did not cover in what was a pretty good interview.

[@katies6287]

For many purposes Arcimoto is way better than a motorcycle, and with similar pricing.

[@markplott4820]

Alessandro - you cant operate a eBike at 70+ mph !!!!! and you cannot Legally Operate a eBike on the Highway. Aricmoto can operate SAFELY at Highway speeds and it parks like a Motorcycle. $20K is a good price for a DUAL MOTOR EV. some eMotorbike can cost $40,000.

[@Speedytrip]

Mark Plott I get why its so expensive, they would need to produce hundreds of thousands of these to sell them 6-7000$. It will just be hard for them to justify their price when Tesla launches a 20-25k smaller car. I still wish them the best it is a cool product the definately meets the requirements of many people.

[@PilotEJ401]

I've been following them for a few years now. And hearing basically the same forecast from Mark: we need to scale, we need to scale, but it just doesn't seem urgent! Good luck

[@Steamrick]

$20k is too expensive for most people to afford it in addition to their 'big' car. Also, in 'the big city' where this vehicle makes the most sense? My experience is that the majority of people don't have a parking spot with electricity available. Nor the parking space for more than one vehicle. This is a vehicle only applicable to affluent suburban (but not overly remote) residents. IMO that's too small a target group to disrupt much of anything.

[@PM_82]

They cast 20k now but with scale and cost saving methods they are aiming for 10k cars in the future for basemodel. It does have a lot of markets like stated in the delivery market, also in europe and great for countries like india, sri lanka etc.

[@michaelcentra2792]

Steamrick So you're saying the city is no good for ALL electric vehicles???

[@AllanSustainabilityFan]

I think they have allot of time to scale production and drive costs down, at this point they can start by addressing the big market potential for delivery and recreational focused customers. Many restaurants, fire departments, ticketing officers, delivery companies etc can easily swallow up every unit produced at this price.

[@Steamrick]

@@michaelcentra2792 I'm saying that availability of electrical charging opportunities is a real problem in the big cities, yes, since many people don't have a fixed parking spot, much less one with electricity available.

[@NathanielRises606]

Scale up, cost down, perhaps a swappable battery and you’ve got a serious contender for the new rickshaws of the indian subcontinent, not to mention delivery and leisure vehicles worldwide. It’s a steal at $6.

[@lib1007]

The price of the FUV will go down when they start the volume production. It will take at least a year. I suspect it will be around $10,000 or less.

[@yulog]

Never happen

[@superfly19751]

$12k in two years

[@Zaerki]

12k in a couple years and then 10k or less in maybe 5. Wright's law in full effect!

[@stevenbarrett7648]

Looks lots of fun, will need the doors for England though, all that horizontal rain !

[@PhiTonics]

I know Arcimoto is all about 3 wheeled transport, but.. I'd really love to see them come at Polaris, because there is NOTHING electric in the side by side market curently, which IS A HUGE market.

[@SmartMart1658]

It would be cool if they could use the platform to create a Polaris slingshot type varient where the two seats are either side of the battery instead of sitting in line on top of the battery.

[@PhiTonics]

@@SmartMart1658 for sure, I mean, I'm fine with 3 wheels too, as long as it can go on some roads rougher than fire roads. Or maybe tow some stuff, or the new varent they are making with the truck bed style to carry stuff, just don't want to tip on uneven ground with weight in the back. I'm more shocked Polaris is just sitting by, letting this happen 🤔

[@jambay4785]

DeLorean was a great vehicle. Hope Arcimoto doesn't get destroyed by the ICE giants. Same thing for CyberTruck. Hot and cold control on seats or just air-flow for "cabin" very nice.

[@sdreefsurf]

Awesome episode Ricky! I'm also in SD and feel like I've bumped into you somewhere. Anyway, this vehicle is interesting huh?

[@DSvideo7777]

No fast charging is a deal breaker for me, because we have steep mountain climbs. From here to the Canyon end is a 4,000+ feet climb. Same over to Park City. For example, if I drive Leaf to Park City, I cannot get back without some fast charging. Mountain climbs take a lot of energy, as I've discovered. Flat lands, not as much.

[@chuckm260]

All good points Dave. Perfect example that the "current" model is not for everyone. However, Mark has said they are considering (or they will, I forget which) and different (presumably larger) battery pack sizes for future models. But first they need to get through "production hell" - get costs down, volume up and reduce the order backlog.

[@dougkemme3800]

Thanks Ricky, these guys are poised for success.

[@ewmlloyd]

Lack of air conditioning is a showstopper in Phoenix, Arizona. We've had a record-breaking 52+ days above 110°F in 2020, and I don't think we're done yet.

[@Humanaut.]

Its like an electric Tuktuk with the tire symmetry reversed. But for 20k.

[@AndTheT]

I think their goal is to have them be $11k once their production methods are finalized

[@where-theres-a-will2059]

I would love to have regular updates on Arcimoto production. I own stock currently, not a lot but some, and would like to buy more but my biggest concern is production. The last thing I heard was they are able to produce one a day and are shooting for three a day soon. Their current backlog is likely not going to be caught up for two years. I get that increased production will allow for lower pricing. Kandi USA is going to be selling a four seat EV car for under 10K after rebates. Unfortunately Arcimoto isn't available to get tax credits.

[@thebrothersdude]

This won't disrupt city transport and you know it

[@aaronbounds1336]

Why, why not?

[@ianswayne7296]

Yeah why? $11 k for one of these. Ride share. Delivery.

[@aaronbounds1336]

Seems like a really useful vehicle for tight/spaces, no frills, delivery type situations. Way easier to use/maintain than a car, and more widely accessable as compared to a bike. It seems too expensive to me, so hopefully Sandy Munro et al can help them get the cost way down.

[@Crog2]

@@aaronbounds1336 "Why, why not?" because it's more expensive and not better (not smaller, not more secure) than "mini kei cars" or even motorbykes

[@aaronbounds1336]

@@Crog2 Might be. It's out of the elements (better than a motorcycle) and maybe climate controlled, plus has a roll cage (safer than a motorcycle) and has a bigger payload capacity/cargo configuration as compared to a motorcycle. It does this while being smaller than a car...maybe it won't replace all of the world's delivery vehicles, but there may be a niche where it's specific attributes make sense. The motorcycle license requirement is a barrier though.

[@ytl01]

as they say "patıence is a virtue"

[@rodneylwright7341]

Excellent interview, Riicky. Thank you.

[@superfly19751]

Why did it take me this long to find this video?? Congratulations on a great interview, brother. I absolutely love Arcimoto. I will get one once they are in mass production. This vehicle is absolutely vital for city use that I think each family should have one, not to mention they are so fun to ride and look at as well. It could easily be used for recreational purposes as well. I think Elon Musk is really wrong for not considering buying or teaming up with Arcimoto. He said it’s unsafe. Come on Elon!!

[@blipco5]

These will work in Bermuda or Martha's Vinyard/ Nantucket/ Block Island.

[@markplott4820]

yes, even Catlina Island .

[@anthonysmithtube]

You should do a specific series on India, Ricky- Population growth/ deaths from particulate pollution/ the problems with two- stroke engines/ fuel (wood burning)/ energy grid issues/ lighting etc, etc...massive potential for meaningful change and fascinating stuff (pretty challenging to implement, of course, even compared to China)

[@J_Calvin_Hobbes]

They are currently advertised on Alibaba for $3,500 - $6,500 plus freight

[@markplott4820]

Two Bit da Vinci - my only Gripes with Arcimoto is its Standard Vehicle only seats two (should have 4x4 seating ) for Rideshare Operations and it needs to have a Bigger Trunk , sometimes I have 4 bags of Groceries . its also needs a Longer Range, a Bigger battery (Whole Floor) and DC FAST charging . otherwise , the Aricomoto is a Quite a good vehicle.

[@bmay8818]

I live where Arcimoto is, and had two job interviews with them. I desperately wanted to work there, but they are not a great company. They kinda jerked me around, and I was later advised to "walk away from them" by someone who really knew the company and management well. They were "about to release" their first production model for over a decade, and yeah, their trike is extremely expensive for what it is. If they'd had to turn a profit earlier (instead of having a rich guy who could keep throwing money at bad ideas), maybe they'd have gotten somewhere, but the world of EVs has changed dramatically since Arcimoto started, and there is a lot more competition.

[@DougGrinbergs]

B May Thanks for sharing. Disappointing to hear your poor experience. (:-( I've gotten a good vibe about Mark and I think Munro's input will be invaluable.

[@bmay8818]

@@DougGrinbergs I don't think Mark is a bad guy, but he is rich, and therefore has less incentive to actually produce a profit-making product. If Arcimoto can actually make a product that people actually buy in significant numbers, I'm all for it, absolutely! We need more EVs out there. I just don't see that happening. It's pretty bothersome how Mark dodges the "what about, you know, weather and your mostly unenclosed vehicle?" question by trying to tell us that the experience of having rain blown into you is a feature, not a bug. It just looks like a toy, and for not a lot more, one could get a Tesla that's far more practical.

[@chillspike_gameplay]

B May Allow me to present a different perspective. The people who would be interested in an FUV won't be concerned about range, safety or weather. It already has enough range for most people's uses. And it's also a step up in safety from a motorcycle anyway. They are going to be concerned about one thing: Getting in a new, multi-road ev for as cheaply as possible so they can bring down running and maintenance costs of getting from point A to point B. They are sick of paying for gas, dealing with breakdowns and mechanics and polluting the planet. Getting in an ev is their top priority and the FUV, even at $20k, is one of the cheaper ways to do it in the States. Yes there are cheaper used ev cars out there but most, if not all, are discontinued so parts and maintenance might be expensive and replacing the larger battery on an ev car might also be more expensive than on a FUV. So the FUV hits a number of sweets spots for some cost conscious people. It puts them in a new ev that is currently in production for less than most, if not all, new ev cars available in the States. Brings down the daily driving costs. And brings down the lifetime care and maintenance costs.

[@-whackd]

Um, I think I'll get a $1k electric bike with trailer that doesn't require a licence and insurance payments, instead of paying 20k + insurance to get wet. "Disrupt" lol

[@oplkfdhgk]

yeah i agree :D

[@-whackd]

@Frxz Win Be sure to post a video of you in your arcimoto once you get one

[@gregcollins3404]

I notice there are no vids of this vehicle operating in snow, rain, heat, dark. You know, there are a lot of places where the weather is not nice enough for this kind of transportation...

[@chuckm260]

I have seen a couple of vids of the FUV in snow, after all the HQ is in the Pacific NW. Granted the FUV was being driven in not too deep of snow, but after all it's certainly not going to handle like a car or ATV in the snow. It will however handle much better than a motorcycle which it is technically classified as. How often do people use their motorcycle in the snow? I'm in a temperate climate zone so, yea, it's not likely to be a year round vehicle for me but I can see using it at least 3 seasons if not more throughout the year. I guess it just depends how much snow fall you get where you're at and how well the roads are cleared and maintained.

[@markplott4820]

Greg - Arcimoto is NOT a off road vehicle , if you want a Electric off road vehicle , Consider the POLARIS Electric 4x4.

[@Wookey.]

The video has several shots of it at night: 10:11

[@chillspike_gameplay]

This works for me because my main concern is not range (I don't have far to go every day) but paying for gas and maintenance on a gas car. I don't want to pay a dime for gas anymore and hate all the maintenance costs of gas vehicles. I think the fuv will appeal to people desperate to escape the running expense of a gas car who aren't concerned about too much range. But if you want to go 100 miles in an fuv just take the back roads and go slower!

[@chillspike_gameplay]

I've been reading some of the reservations and criticisms about the FUV and have to say a lot of them miss the point entirely...especially weak are the ones that claim "Tesla's going to do this" and "Tesla's going to do that" in some years time so why bother. Completely ignoring that Arcimoto could improve their vehicle platform in "some years time" too. And the "you can just get a car" criticisms also miss the point. We are using and insuring too much vehicle for trips that are predominantly one or two people at best.

[@gmazelli]

I hope this comes to Europe

[@SmartMart1658]

It would be cool if they could use the platform to create a 'Polaris slingshot' type variant where the two seats are either side of the battery instead of sitting in line on top of the battery.

[@leticialachica6871]

Arcimoto will big in Asia and India

[@dr.ijeziedesbois]

I don't want to get hit in that 😅. People drive too crazy.

[@r.o7897]

Love it!

[@bobqzzi]

So, this is pretty cool, but my feeling is they are calling this a motorcycle to avoid crash requirements. Not sure how I feel about that as it's a complicated issue. As other's have mentioned, the price is much, much too high- I can buy an entry level sedan for less. Also, 75mph seems much too fast. Still, this is an emerging market and the standard 110V charging is super appealing for the average person. Really good conversation here

[@Nphen]

I had a similar feeling but in many ways this is so much safer than a motorcycle. I ride my DIY 750w e-bike up to about 35 MPH on roads where there are bike lanes or a wide shoulder. It's harrowing. If I had a faster e-bike that could hit 45 miles an hour, I would for sure have disc brakes and be careful in traffic. The FUV gives you what even a $20,000 ebike cannot - the ability to outrun traffic on any road short of a freeway. It's not a distance driver. Probably small enough to drive up the ramp of a Cybertruck!

$10K would be a good range, that would put it in the same range as Renault Twizy. Even cheaper would be super cool.

[@satxsatxsatx]

agreed. $20K is too much for secondary/backup vehicle that is open to the weather, hot, cold, wet, road grime. You'd have biker's road stink.

[@yulog]

13 years and they are still talking about the future

[@popeyegordon]

As it should be. There is not nearly enough talk about the future we are stealing now from the next generation.

[@randalfriesen4515]

While 20k seems to be too much for this vehicle and I live in Canada so that would be more like 25k they should offer a rent to own platform. Or a lease with option to buy.

[@PM_82]

What i am missing in this interview and that is really noticeable in the comments is that the arcimoto now costs 20.000 usd but that they are aiming to scale up production and drive down the costs to deliver the arcimoto for less then 10.000 usd due to shorter production time and cheaper production thanks to larger scale production.

[@katiegreene3960]

Time for that behind the handle bars video.

[@tomsummers1137]

Hi, Ricky. I just rented one of these babies for the Fully Charged Live weekend coming up (10-11 Sept). See you there!

[@TwoBitDaVinci]

that's awesome! looking forward to it Tom!

[@tomsummers1137]

I’m “connected” and friends with so many participants to this pivotal event, and the peripheral get togethers before and after the daily programs…that I just felt that I needed this machine to not just “show the flag” but to offer rides around the area. Perhaps you are aware that my favorite non-profit, the EV-LC is having its fund raiser the night before at the Automotive Museum in Balboa Park. We will be shuttling cars and drivers back and forth and all around …all weekend. This rig is perfect for that!

[@htiek30120]

My FUV is a '14 i3 (non Rex). It has similar range with DC fast charging and is an awesome daily commuter. Arcimoto will need to adjust their pricing to compete with used BEVs.

[@dennis1954]

I have a Worksman tandem side by side with 500lb weight limit that is going to be my second car. Have the motor already and looking for lithium batteries now. Should be able to have enough batteries, I estimate 2k, and to do 20 mph to stay legal in my state without needing to be recharged for days. Good enough for my needs for under 3k total.

[@canadianberniebro2462]

awesome video awesome product ARCIMOTO

[@popeyegordon]

Why city transport? Mine is in a 50,000 population town. It replaced a solar assist car-bike which I still have for exercise. I have not left town in 7 years except to visit parks 10 miles away, my local trips are 5 miles average. I now have the safety of a small car with a much more fun design that is a bit larger and faster than I will ever need. After owning 5 motorcycles and scooters this is like a tank.

[@deavman]

"Why this $20k EV will Disrupt City Transport" It will not...not at this price.

[@blahdelablah]

They're aiming for $10k.

[@georgeschneider8778]

Check out the Can Am spyder. It starts at $18499 without any features. It sells pretty well. It uses gas and requires oil and transmission fluid change for maintenance. At $17900, fuv is a bargain 🤷‍♂️

[@jimgagnon4028]

I don't know who needs to hear this but stop saving all your money. Invest some of it If you want financial freedom.

[@jimgagnon4028]

Invest in bitcoin, gold, silver, buy stock, forex market. anything! just invest and save yourself

[@avastuart2291]

good talk!

[@trevorporter4096]

@@jimgagnon4028 what if you dont know how to trade any of these? I mean, I see your point. Some people have the money and are willing to invest. But the problem is where to

[@altcoindaily4740]

@Sai Arjun I just looked her up on google. She's registered under the SEC. That's impressive

[@altcoindaily4740]

I totally agree!

[@blipco5]

The quickest way to get one on the East Coast would be to buy one in San Diego then drive it cross country. Driving it on the freeways, and having to charge it every half hour with its 32 mile range, the trip would only take a couple of months. 😬

[@mikefealey5221]

The pandemic offers an opportunity to rethink and this Arcimoto idea sounds like a perfect solution. Down with ICE vehicles 👍

[@ytl01]

nice one gent's

[@canadianberniebro2462]

fleets of rentable deliverators in India would do awesome(money saving transportation that is safe and reliable)

[@russbowman6801]

Charge while in tow behind a RV? This would sell well if designed for this as well. Tow backwards with a locked steering position? Heck, even use as a power assist to an RV for passing or short uphill?

[@jambay4785]

Super segway! I like the deliverator and fast responder models. Great job.

[@rickbullock4331]

I think $20,000 is a lot of money for what you get. I also feel the same about the larger motorcycles too. I think the electric part is great but the distance is still not very good for me. To me this vehicle fits a niche but I doubt one I would be interested in especially for the price tag.

[@stevespawn1]

I paid 20k for my used bmwi3 rex-it is enclosed and has air conditioning. Convince me how this product may be better.

[@TomPaine3]

I like the concept, but in my area, we need an enclosed unit with A/C.

[@adamkrasneski3679]

There is one. A "hardshell" option w ac

[@DSvideo7777]

How about fast charging? Does FUV offer fast charging? I drive a Leaf, usable range 60-70. Fast charging is imperative on a weekend. I would consider a Fiat e500, but they do not fast charge. I can't wait that long at times.

[@LarsDreier]

Renault Twizzy? Disrupt. Just as Renault did ... Sure.

[@TwoBitDaVinci]

Do they sell in the US? Don’t remember seeing one to buy here

[@Wicked_Genius]

@@TwoBitDaVinci Don't remember anybody making them illegal to import either

[@SmartMart1658]

The problem with the Renault Twizzy is it is battery rental only I beleive - which means you are paying £50 a month battery rental whether you use it or not. I hired a Twizzy in the Lake District. The brakes were rubbish and the ride was too firm - like a go cart.

[@LarsDreier]

@@SmartMart1658 The brakes suck, definitely! But you're able to buy the battery for extra 5k.

[@IDann1]

Two Bit da Vinci when do we get the Arcimoto in the uk 🇬🇧?

[@mhmdnazel1]

Its like a motorcycle , but more comfortable...but still at the mercy of the weather... need some doors

[@solomodo5124]

31:30 lmao nice jab at Nikrap

[@daegueric]

Ayro (Austin, TX) is in this market, right? They have world wide distribution deal with Club Car, too. It's publicly traded.

[@ramonmichaud3004]

If you have solar power,your fuel would be freeeeee!!!!

[@macrumpton]

You can just buy solar offsets and skip the solar panel payments.

[@markplott4820]

@@macrumpton - you can NOW buy TESLA solar at $1.49/watt.

[@cyberoptic5757]

I'm from Maine, and last year I wrote to ask for a dealership, or point of sale. They were looking for a 15 unit purchase to get started. Not sure if it's the same now

[@levertis1987]

Great video

[@campfortune]

I thought about the issues. I perpetually drive alone and generally within the city too. we definitely should drive something that should save energy and space. However, I don't really like the look of the car and I don't think I will pay 20k for it.

[@tommyfred6180]

its a messerschmitt with an electric engine. there is a good reason the messerschmitt went off line in the 1970s. it was expensive and you would almost always die in anything but the smallest of car accident. seems like the same problems will be the same with this thing.

[@PrograError]

well... it's not meant for highway travels ... you'd be freezing in those, at that distance ... also the safety criteria for material usage is way different... that car is like sheet metal on body-on-frame construction...

[@NathanielRises606]

You’ve clearly not been to India

[@macrumpton]

cars in similar form factor can be safe see (formula 1 racing), also the messerschmitt could at least keep you dry.

[@ceevellor6503]

They clearly dont have family nor care about long distance travel nor weather conditions and all overall safety. How are these obviously single selfish minded people who should not be allowed to make such drastic changes in our transportation doing away with all existing cars with no other option for those that dont want them. Not to mention the cost most likely unafordable to some. Many people like here think its insane. Take these things someplace where all like minded as youz and drive anything youz like . this is ridiculous to be ienabled to decide for everyone .

[@ceevellor6503]

They clearly dont have family nor care about long distance travel nor weather conditions and all overall safety. How are these obviously single selfish minded people who should not be allowed to make such drastic changes in our transportation doing away with all existing cars with no other option for those that dont want them. Not to mention the cost most likely unafordable to some. Many people like here think its insane. Take these things someplace where all like minded as youz and drive anything youz like . this is ridiculous to be ienabled to decide for everyone .

[@89itis]

Wow, no AC, high price, unsafe, not sure if this will fly. Within a few years Tesla will have a $25k car...

[@NathanielRises606]

And in a few years Arcimoto’s vehicle will be 15k and will still occupy a place in the market that Tesla won’t, i.e. local delivery, commute and leisure

[@89itis]

Aurelius Vox Hey, I have nothing against Arcimoto, I wish them good luck, I just don’t think this is the future, but who knows, maybe they’ll pull it off

[@ronaldgarrison8478]

That guy at 8:15 doesn't NEED an Arcimoto!

[@86AmaZe]

Really like the concept. Bought some shares for my long term portfolio. :)

[@russbowman6801]

You need a big investor to start up a 30-100 units per day factory. You need to put enough on the streets so they will sell themselves. Until they get up in numbers, they will not make it beyond a small business and it will take too long to reach that scale. Someone like Harley Davidson will ramp up and blow you out of the market. Tesla did it, you need to do this to stay main stream.

[@Jose.Q_]

I would def get this as a second vehicle just to drive around locally and to the mall , I just wonder how good it is going uphill on the streets because where I live there's a few long 20 to 25 degree street hills to get to the mall ...I'm just wonderin if it loses speed goin up a angled street because every vid I seen it's all on flat roads

[@popeyegordon]

The software is holding back jackrabbit starts but this is 77 HP, enough to climb hills. So far I have not heard a single report of a hill defeating the FUV but it could happen especially when loaded.

[@simonalexandercritchley439]

Accredited for New Zealand ? Where can I test drive one?Waiting list? Cost landed here in N.Z $? At a guess 30-35K....

[@lyngs]

3-wheeled electric bike with a trailerbox or second seat: less than 10% the price, no insurance not getting crushed by other cars. "disrupt" by butt.

[@JD-yx7be]

Can that go highway speeds?

[@MrPinguinzz]

>want to fill the space between a car and a bike >priced like a car hmm start putting down costs or it will be a flop

[@Nphen]

They have more orders than they can fulfill. Simon Cowell's overpriced, overpowered "ebike" (e-motorcycle) was $20,000. Plenty of people have that much to spend on toys that doubles as a replacement for a grocery getter. I'm a delivery driver who once delivered on 35mph scooter. The Arcimoto is worth $20k, and is a steal of a vehicle even at $15k which is halfway to their planned $10k future low-end model.

[@harriska2]

@@Nphen If you live in Oregon it costs $17,400 ;) We have a rebate.

[@offwhitemke]

Once they scale up production the price can come down.

[@yggdrasil9039]

The only thing is why they have left the cabin open. In some instances that could be good, but not if you're using it in Canada in winter.

[@markplott4820]

Arcimoto can be FULLY ENCLOSED.

[@catl1783]

I am long FUV also, did not sell on the runup. This vehicle will have many personal and commercial applications moving forwards. Not a nio or xpeng, different space. The Deliverator will garner huge fleet contracts. I see this replacing all those Amazon vans I see delivering product everywhere! imo

[@qwazy01]

I really liked this interview. I'd to see this company succeed, and really would like to get behind Arcimoto - but I'm not sold. My view: PROS Novelty Size Convenience CONs Safety Price Psgr v Cargo Range? Seasonal Future proof They claim autonomy is part of the vision, but when that day comes any personal vehicle carrying more than a single person will presumably want to have a more communal environment. Vehicles now are arranged in a utilitarian function, the necessity for this will disappear (and does now when possible, ie. Limousines, Rear screen entertainment) Worth mentioning in an interview with Now You Know they remarked at how easy it was to communicate back and forth which is great for now, but their current psgr setup will become a compromise in the future. Tesla's are bar none the safest vehicles on the road atm, and have signaled and low cost psgr car. Some have dubbed it a model 2 which would be fitting if it's a 2 seater. It will probably fit the same form factor as their current models to participate in tunnel routes created by the boring company. All this without sacrificing safety. Pricing is disproportionate to the functionality of say a Tesla model 3 which means that the price is focused on the fun factor aka a toy. If autonomy gains a foothold this decade how will this be affected? How will this compete with Uber/Lyft/Robotaxi business model, where for a nominal fee you can be ported to and fro in various vehicles, ie. take a bigger back home after a shopping spree, arriving separately leaving in a group. Atm the cost is prohibitive. I don't see this taking off for the personal market, but can fill a niche in the commercial environment. Unfortunately, I think this is on the same path as the original Segway. If this had been massed produced 10+ yrs ago it would have been a real hit. Unless I'm missing something, going forward sadly it's a miss.

[@TimothyWhiteheadzm]

Of course small vehicles like this have existed in other countries for a very long time. The real question is whether you have addressed the reasons they never really took off in the US previously.

[@NathanielRises606]

Or you just sell in those countries

[@madhusreedharanpathirapilli]

This machine is actually for india..

[@tj1295]

I would buy on to deliver food.

[@edwardv54]

"Between a bike and a car," I'd like to see something between a trike and an Arcimoto.

[@offwhitemke]

I’m in SF. Let me know when we can do a test ride.

[@flash521]

20 K -- don’t think so. How does it work in the snow? Blizzard? 🌨 🥶. Fair weather vehicle for sure. 30 K own a Tesla. South Dakota - don’t expect to see many people show up with one at the Sturgis motorcycle rally. Lol

[@Sew4bub]

how do i get one in Australia....you would sell thousands of the Arcimotos here

[@7drobin]

Ditto, can't wait! $30K Aus is almost as cheap as the purchase of a small ICE car. The range is good, concept is great. Bring it on!!!

[@randyrice1429]

But you drive on the left down there. It would require different manufacturing. I think Mark is more interested in exporting a factory than the car itself. But that is quite a ways off.

[@randyrice1429]

I correct myself. The Arcimoto is neither right nor left. The driver is in the middle! So. Didn't he say something about New Zealand? Maybe you could buy one there and float it over to Australia. Good luck!

[@7drobin]

@@randyrice1429 could not. Certification? Import isn't as simple as that, in a centrally controlled democratic environment. We too have bureaucratic despotism as the root of the individual rights.

[@californiaplant-basedeater2761]

They made 30 last month. Don't hold your breath.

[@MaxMustermann-sm4qu]

How could you even think, that this 'thing' at this price will become a success? As example, with the German eGo you get much more value for the bug. It's cheaper and a full functional mini-car you can drive in bad weather and even winter. Other brands will come up with even cheaper small EVs. Arcimotos at 20k$ is a joke an good for maybe 20-30k vehicles for enthusiasts, but there is no way that this impractical thing will 'disrupt' anything. Even for 8-9k$ it will just be acceptable as fun car.

[@RussellHogan]

Don’t forget about Honolulu! 🤓

[@donm2255]

I don't see this as a second vehicle at $20k unless you live in a FL beach and/or retirement community. It will eat into a lot of golf cart sales in those areas. At the current price, delivery services will flock to these vehicles. That market has gotten a lot bigger with restaurant and grocery deliveries during the pandemic. My sister gets all most all of her groceries delivered. I bet in more urban areas fedx and amazon are also looking at the potential cost savings for deliveries that are close to distribution centers. The real issue with this company becoming disruptive is the manufacturing process. Are they following Tesla's foot prints and changing at the "speed of thought." The term came from Sandy Munro and he has actually been helping Arcimoto with their manufacturing processes. If that relationship is bearing some fruit, we could see the price drop significantly with design improvements and higher volume manufacturing. If they can get the price down to what a motorcycle costs ($10k to 15k), then there might be something here. The Sandy Munroe consulting was important for their success.

[@Steamrick]

These don't have enough room for the likes of Amazon or FedEx. They didn't look like they can even fit long packages. I could see a pizza delivery place looking at them, though, if they go down in price.

[@stephancote4745]

Now make a 4 wheel off road capable version and I'll buy one

[@MichaelWDietrich]

If the "early adopters" are preferred and you did not get the chance to be an early adopter because of living in another country it will even make it longer for you to wait. Don't know if that a feasible company policy. I might be upset with arcimoto once they have achieved to bring one of that small things to Europe. I remember that Tesla even brought their relativly big 1st roadster to Europe very early this differentiates Teslas approach from arcimotos.

[@sojournern]

Why, why, why is it 20k? Great concept but make it 8k.

[@ianswayne7296]

Wait till they sort out mass production.

[@Crog2]

2-3k. Otherways it won't fly.

[@eskipo]

Take the cheapest new car you can find, then add up the 5 year operating costs; even at $20k this will be MUCH cheaper to operate, more fun, more convenient.

[@JD-yx7be]

@@Crog2 even beginner motorcycles cost about $4k, a mid end motorcycle is about $8k. Heck an electric assit bicycle is around $2k

[@markplott4820]

Powerful DUAL Electric Motors add to Cost.

[@rodneylwright7341]

Safety was not discussed.

[@solomodo5124]

What will it take to get them to India? And similar heavy populated areas...

[@SteveBueche1027]

For 6k I can get any used car. At 22k the Nissan Rogue (brand new) gives you so much more. Why is this so expensive?

[@emberblack9085]

Because they just started scaling up...price will go down eventually

[@SteveBueche1027]

Emberblack that would be nice. I guess I thought since they’ve been around so long their production was larger. My next concern for them would be if Tesla produces a $20-$30k car. Comparing your product to what else and comparable exists is a big fact before production along with feasibility. Let’s hope they have a good plan. I wish them well.

[@emberblack9085]

@@SteveBueche1027 I dont think tesla is going to produce such cheap car anytime soon, either way, comptetetion is good, market is big enough for few similar products and lets not forget, fuv is not a car, it has a bit different use, different experience and also some advantages over classical cars. I think if they manage to get price down, lets say to 10k, it would be very compelling product for mass market. But even now with a price tag of 20k its still a great value and good choice for many people and companies, enough to create a backlong for at least next few years.

[@SteveBueche1027]

Emberblack yeah at 10k I’d buy one as a third car.

[@AZOffRoadster]

No A/C is a deal killer here in AZ. A cool seat doesn't compensate for 110F breeze. Even hotter on asphalt roads, plus the sun shining on you. Does look like a fun yuppy toy tho.

[@markplott4820]

then get a CARVER Vehicle.

[@greyjay9202]

All well and good for people who live in mild climates, but what about the millions of us who live in colder, seasonal environments? Will you manufacture EV's which are fully enclosed, insulated, and heated?

[@popeyegordon]

Not insulated but enclosed. It already has heated seats, hand grips and defroster. The wrap around windshield and roof combine to prevent much wind chill. It is a warmer and safer ride than any motorcycle ever made. Not for all climates though, just as a snowmobile is not a failed design because it is worthless in Florida. Many northerners only can live there because they think nothing of abusing the raw brute force of fossil fueled vehicles to bash through winter weather at the expense of starving drought refugees in other nations. Something has to change. Go back to holing up for the winter.