Why This American Entrepreneur Left Luxury New York for Thailand ​⁠

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Forrest Lee

Forrest Lee

Күн бұрын

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@iPaulLee
@iPaulLee 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for having me 💯
@EGAWEF
@EGAWEF 10 ай бұрын
Hi Paul, korean american here in my mid30s. I feel the same way and even felt the same thing when I moved to seoul from nyc. Im literally putting things in order after 1 month stay there to move to thailand. Its just like the city of new york and bkk has people actually living life. The city country is full of actual human life which I missed. I agree to everything you said and gave me more motivation as korean american to moce to bkk. Want to be a person not a robot in a smartphone world
@EGAWEF
@EGAWEF 10 ай бұрын
Can tell you been trough alot and thought about those moments thoroughly too before making up your mind and value. So impressive.
@EGAWEF
@EGAWEF 10 ай бұрын
Korea is just the same in the states.
@EGAWEF
@EGAWEF 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for mentioning the korean discrimination. Im 100% korean and felt more at home in nyc than that country. They are very hostile to foreign cultures. Very rude too if you look like a korean, they have a very different behavior and mindset towards you.
@DreamofThailand19000
@DreamofThailand19000 10 ай бұрын
You are very wise young man. I didn't have that mindset when I was at your age!
@andersonmark5765
@andersonmark5765 10 ай бұрын
As a NYC resident who moved to Thailand just over a year ago, I could certainly relate to much of what Paul was saying. I said goodbye to the corporate work culture and the obsession with being busy or looking busy.
@glorgau
@glorgau 10 ай бұрын
You guys need a better mike setup ;-)
@ellvtv2314
@ellvtv2314 10 ай бұрын
Yep, simply duct taping the mic on a stick would have worked just fine.
@goonerdoy
@goonerdoy 10 ай бұрын
Very insightful and thoughtful interview, Paul is clearly an intelligent young man! I am a Korean-Aussie myself with limited Korean language skills and lived in Thailand for several years so I can relate :). Cheers Forrest, well in!
@vloginvain
@vloginvain 10 ай бұрын
Interesting interview but why did you just use 1 microphone?
@ewstuber
@ewstuber 10 ай бұрын
So much wisdom for such a young guy!
@30AndAWakeUp
@30AndAWakeUp 10 ай бұрын
Great interview as usual. Can't wait to return soon!
@theredditnerdlol
@theredditnerdlol 10 ай бұрын
Yo Kevin!
@30AndAWakeUp
@30AndAWakeUp 10 ай бұрын
@@theredditnerdlol Yo!
@theredditnerdlol
@theredditnerdlol 10 ай бұрын
Wanna see your new JOMTIEN CONDO TOUR vid.@@30AndAWakeUp
@jasonelliott9762
@jasonelliott9762 10 ай бұрын
Loved the video! Would love to see more of these expat vids. Seriously thinking about moving away from the rat-race USA.
@bijanbayne3259
@bijanbayne3259 10 ай бұрын
Tons of Western KZbinrs, realtors, and travel content creators who have lived in Thailand 20 yeara, say "Pa-TTAY-a", or worse, "PAT-ty-a". Ppl complain about it a "language barrier", as if Thais in tourist towns, or Isaan, are supposed to be able to understand heavily accented British, Irish, Aussie, Italian, German, Danish, or Scottish English. If you hear Thais pronounce 'papaya salad', you can tell the city is pronounced with the accent on the first syllable
@lezzeppelin2222
@lezzeppelin2222 8 ай бұрын
Most of them are idiots 🤣
@DreamofThailand19000
@DreamofThailand19000 10 ай бұрын
Awesome interview. Forrest knows how to ask good questions. Paul is very wise and insightful!
@shivasuresh5957
@shivasuresh5957 10 ай бұрын
Great interview Forrest. I was already familiar with Paul's channel as well yours so it's super cool to see the two of you collaborate. You asked excellent questions and Paul gave insightful answers. Terrific job guys!
@boncharusorn6173
@boncharusorn6173 10 ай бұрын
well, welcome to Thailand folks :) im glad yall like the place :) im Thai and was an exchange student in Valdosta, GA back in the 2000s. i spent 10 years in America getting a Bachelor & a Master degrees with a few years of work and that was all i needed from Uncle Sam. i left America and returned home at the beginning of crumble in 2008. personally, i believed thats when everything you see wrong today started. i wish things would get better for America but it never did. i like America. i have many friends from many shades of skins. BTW, a good friend of mine lives in Macon, the Budenski brothers, and his family is also from Korea. i usually visited the US every few years but i dont feel it like before anymore and i dont know why. hopefully, some day that happy feeling will again restored. well, im glad you folks found Thailand to be yall new home base while engaging in prosperity this city/country have to offers. with the advantage of knowing both sides of the coin, im doing my part to educate those i can reach about the things that the West is suffering with. the effort is to hope that Thai culture will not fall in the same way. anyway, nice knowing you guys. have a great Bangkok day.
@safeandeffectivelol
@safeandeffectivelol 10 ай бұрын
Globalist big money and corruption took over the US after the GFC
@DT-gs3wi
@DT-gs3wi 10 ай бұрын
Expats needs to learn thai!!!
@lezzeppelin2222
@lezzeppelin2222 8 ай бұрын
They can’t because most of them are idiots. 😂
@pamjiang
@pamjiang 10 ай бұрын
Love Paul’s outlook and comments, just enjoy the journey and not so focused on materialistic. I can see he is living a very content lifestyle now. ❤
@jbranche8024
@jbranche8024 10 ай бұрын
You can't compare Western and Eastern culture, they are very different. Western thinking about themselves, materialistic, value media and friends perception more than good morals and values. Thailand, think as group, more careful with words to let others Keep Face, try to be accepting and live in harmony, good morals and values, polite, easy to make friends, honest, and appreciate family values.
@chelsea_entropy
@chelsea_entropy 10 ай бұрын
I am from New York and will be leaving in January to live in Thailand for 4 months. I will be learning thai massage and continuing my muay thai training. It will be my first time there and I am afraid I will fall in love with Thailand and never want to come home hehehe. I love your channel and thanks for posting :)
@dexterspeights3484
@dexterspeights3484 10 ай бұрын
Thailand needs to lower the age requirement for the retirement visa to 45 instead of 50 years old because people in 1st world countries are retiring younger with stable financial resources.
@daveb3987
@daveb3987 10 ай бұрын
“I thought you were in your mid 40s… “ 😮 😂
@brictator
@brictator 10 ай бұрын
great talk
@leavinforadream
@leavinforadream 10 ай бұрын
Great video and what @iPaulLee said with regards to learning Thai is SPOT ON and those are the expats to me that I don't really l just listen to and that really isn't jut for Thailand but also for the Philippines and other places too! HOW can someone live some place overseas for 10-20 years, be married to or in a relationship with a local of that country and have children with that local, and even HEARING that language DAY IN AND DAY OUT from the person they are with talking to their friends and family, and STILL NOT know any of the basics of the national language and/or STILL mispronounce words in that language. I have seen SO MANY videos on KZbin where that is the case and when it comes to why these expats leave Thailand they always point to "the language barrier"..! Not one of them ever says they made any effort to learn the language whatsoever and then they say "everyone here speaks English", which of course depending upon where one goes within that country is NOT the case...!! Again Great Job...!!
@aniwee17
@aniwee17 10 ай бұрын
Thai is a tonal language. It took me two years to finally have a clue to decipher the five tones of the Thai language. That is given the condition that the speaker slows down enough for me to hear the different tones. I have not yet had enough courage to try the Thai script. Still at the beginner/intermediate level in Thai listening comprehension. Believe me, it is not an easy language to learn and unfortunately, Thai language usage is pretty limited to Thailand and a few SE Asian countries. However, I will continue with my quest to be fluent in Thai. At this speed, it may take up to ten years to make it happen.
@Live-dt9hj
@Live-dt9hj 10 ай бұрын
@@aniwee17I speak Thai it's easy to learn when you live in a all Thai area
@aniwee17
@aniwee17 10 ай бұрын
@@Live-dt9hj If you are young, it is easier to pick up a language. I am already eligible for AARP. Learning Thai is not so easy for me, but still I have hope.
@Live-dt9hj
@Live-dt9hj 10 ай бұрын
@@aniwee17 I'm 40 😅
@DreamofThailand19000
@DreamofThailand19000 10 ай бұрын
@@aniwee17 I am Thai. I am sure you are doing well because you are trying hard. Thai language is not easy because of the 5 tones. Thais will appreciate when you try to speak Thai to them, even it's not perfect. On the other hand, I have been living in US, people still laugh at me when I speak English with Thai accent 😁
@BobGoodi
@BobGoodi 10 ай бұрын
Very nice talk there guys. 2 more months and l will be joining you all in Thailand again. Lol
@williamhartz8707
@williamhartz8707 10 ай бұрын
I don’t think Paul would like South Korea- 1) A very structured, competitive society 2) Materialistic 3) Chaebols that have a lot of power. Paul is a very levelheaded, intelligent young man. I think he will survive Bangkok. BTW I think if I was an “Asian American” I’d try living in an Asian country ( Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, Vietnam…) because when you don’t look like the “stereotype American “ ( blond hair, blue eyes, built like a football player) you’re sometimes treated like an outsider though YOU ARE AMERICAN. Definitely the women are better in SE Asia- not just looks but also attitude and not having a grudge.
@iPaulLee
@iPaulLee 10 ай бұрын
100%. I definitely like to visit Korea but I don’t think I’d ever want to live there
@method341
@method341 10 ай бұрын
With regard to Falang not learning Thai: their Thai wives do not want them learning Thai because it will make it easier for them to cheat/leave them and the man doesn't have to talk as much to his wife 😂😂
@jbranche8024
@jbranche8024 10 ай бұрын
Not True. Lazy, difficult, ability to read Thai which uses characters not familiar to the West. I'm learning but old so in 10 years I should understand the basics.
@DT-gs3wi
@DT-gs3wi 10 ай бұрын
Only ghetto thai chic are doing that!!!
@iPaulLee
@iPaulLee 10 ай бұрын
😂😂
@citizensauto
@citizensauto 10 ай бұрын
Big fan of both, i just stumbled onto Paul's KZbin channel and ive been binge watching. Great interview 👍 👏
@georgeh7338
@georgeh7338 10 ай бұрын
that will be my home one day soon. cheers
@henryquach604
@henryquach604 10 ай бұрын
Forest Lee. I wish I could move and live in Thailand but my career is based in Canada. I got family here and a mortgage. I can't just leave and go to Thailand with no job. 😢
@saidonfax
@saidonfax 10 ай бұрын
Man such an interesting story. I admire you guys for having the courage to step out of the only safe zone you know and move across the continent to a place where hardly anyone speaks your language. That's bravery. While I'm aware and understand stuff like share of GDP from tourism, when I say I'm happy with those who moved here it is never because of that. I attempted to end my life before. Having much time contemplating about meaning of life and how to not wake up to a living hell, it's never about nationality. This is humanity. And I truly wish the best for everyone who finds peace of mind here. We don't owe anyone our lives. We have the right to be and live wherever we find peace and happiness.
@harleydavis3814
@harleydavis3814 10 ай бұрын
The 2 Lees finally collab together
@daveb3987
@daveb3987 10 ай бұрын
“In the west” should be “in the US”. Don’t lump the rest of us in with you guys.
@boredguy5805
@boredguy5805 10 ай бұрын
Canada's not too different
@daveb3987
@daveb3987 10 ай бұрын
@@boredguy5805 it’s annoying eh. By no means is Australia perfect but it seems most people back home wash their hands with soap and water. Have lived in Korea and it seemed similar. Either way, anything less than 100% is bad, and around here it’s just depressing.
@WhiskeyThieves
@WhiskeyThieves 10 ай бұрын
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Bangkok is like New York a “ultra competitive, superficial, competitive lifestyle” especially when you reach the upper echelon of society. You will realize this once you lived there long enough and bumped elbows with the rich and successful. It’s a very materialistic culture. Forrest has tasted this and is enthralled, but give it sometime and upper crust BKK lifestyle will be as draining as the west if not more.
@boredguy5805
@boredguy5805 10 ай бұрын
it's ultra competitive for locals, for foreigners its fine as long as you keep making decent usd money
@acousticglatv
@acousticglatv 10 ай бұрын
Hi Forrest after this I would love to see you talking with a rising youtube star "Joyce Sin" an Asian-american girl move to Thailand like you & Paul do.
@kolkattaindia
@kolkattaindia 10 ай бұрын
Two great guys! Good interview. 👍👏🙏
@lezzeppelin2222
@lezzeppelin2222 8 ай бұрын
Right , 2 oriental 🤪
@manolexing68
@manolexing68 10 ай бұрын
Paul may​ be young, but​ his mind is fully matured 😉.
@joelpo43
@joelpo43 10 ай бұрын
A bunch of us woman are fat and act like men here in el salvador they love maintaining their bodies and being super feminine i love it
@grantr7682
@grantr7682 10 ай бұрын
Lee-squared, if I may? Good work, gentleman. This was a collaboration that needed to happen! 💯💣
@mosqutio88
@mosqutio88 10 ай бұрын
My two fav content creators!
@SlayTheseFools-hu5jy
@SlayTheseFools-hu5jy 10 ай бұрын
One of the best videos about Thailand!!! Thanks for keeping it real!!!
@taterrhead
@taterrhead 10 ай бұрын
refreshing takes ... I think almost ALL Americans feel (rather they externalize it or not) better once they land outside of USA into some other nation && experience homogenous people/culture for the first time ... multiculturalism will go down as a top 10 myth in history of mankind
@MachineGunPepe
@MachineGunPepe 9 ай бұрын
Has zero to do with homogeneous anything. It's about how relaxed other cultures are.
@norris007
@norris007 10 ай бұрын
Glad to see you two connect. Just started watching Pauls content as well
@realdeal139
@realdeal139 10 ай бұрын
Dude story is inspiring me to leave the rat race of nyc.
@b4bmm
@b4bmm 10 ай бұрын
Any more options traders in Bangkok/Thailand?
@vincem8065
@vincem8065 10 ай бұрын
You mean on NYSE?
@MT-qq1rq
@MT-qq1rq 10 ай бұрын
That's my future plan. To live in Thailand and get income from trading options. Currently live in NYC and I can relate to what Paul stated....this is a city that dogs eat dogs and never enough mentality.
@ericb5328
@ericb5328 10 ай бұрын
stuck in nyc right now. cant wait to get back to thailand
@linehand21
@linehand21 10 ай бұрын
Great interview! My dream is to save money, live and enjoy Thailand
@shane5385
@shane5385 10 ай бұрын
Tax man coming to Thailand
@DaBooster
@DaBooster 10 ай бұрын
Smart young man
@argonunya882
@argonunya882 10 ай бұрын
AWESOME! you guys finally got together to chit chat! (i do watch pauls content too)
@shawnar.3
@shawnar.3 10 ай бұрын
Could you do a show focused on US expat areas where people are residents?
@F.C.77
@F.C.77 10 ай бұрын
I like this video.
@CatsAndGoodCoffee
@CatsAndGoodCoffee 10 ай бұрын
All positive things, not a single word about the next year taxes for farangs (including taxes in savings, any money coming from outside Thailand basically).
@MachineGunPepe
@MachineGunPepe 9 ай бұрын
Their going to ruin a good thing and people are going to go somewhere else.
@LUCKHEF
@LUCKHEF 10 ай бұрын
Good content 🙏🏽
@toms5763
@toms5763 10 ай бұрын
nice
@friedrichbythesea
@friedrichbythesea 10 ай бұрын
Great interview! I'm looking forward to being back in the calm, only ten days to go. I'll have to binge Paul's content, I've become terribly jaded.
@EricD_
@EricD_ 10 ай бұрын
Great content...thanks
@briannewton9369
@briannewton9369 10 ай бұрын
I gotta say, this is one of your best. Just a couple guys in Bangkok, soon to be my home too. I love it.
@pamy5965
@pamy5965 10 ай бұрын
Great interview. Very down to earth.
@anarchoflow
@anarchoflow 10 ай бұрын
Good vibes here!
@arg888
@arg888 10 ай бұрын
Asia is not materialistic? 😅
@tvstarks
@tvstarks 8 ай бұрын
Hey Forrest!! Question for you.. what expenses do you have to maintain in the US? I've been in Bali for over a year, but I still have expenses in the US. Nobody talks about that when tallying up expenses to live in SE Asia. Thx bro!
@hitmusicworldwide
@hitmusicworldwide 9 ай бұрын
Bro not everyone in New York is doing this and if you think that Thailand is an escape from materialism not in Bangkok brother especially when you're Asian What do you think all those gold jewelry shops as well as the BMWs and other status symbols in BKK are? Asia is all about $$$ to an even more extreme level of you are in the "Hi So" circles. The type of perspective you're looking for can be found anywhere. You just have to pick the right people to be around and get your head on straight but since you're just 27 you haven't realized that yet, but you will, Good luck
@saishore
@saishore 10 ай бұрын
Great interview, looking forward to visiting in Jan 2024 and making blogs like these talented gentlemen. (And maybe collabs too!)
@user-gi5nv3br6m
@user-gi5nv3br6m 4 ай бұрын
you gotta love the korean american's genuine perspective, you can tell he is very honest and the description came from the heart. only americans are this way, if you grew up in china... people are cunning - deceptive
@strongjaymusicgroup
@strongjaymusicgroup 10 ай бұрын
I can relate
@jackflowers999
@jackflowers999 6 ай бұрын
hey ....nice vlogs again.....what type are your sunglasses brand?
@kapteng
@kapteng 10 ай бұрын
this kid got it!
@lezzeppelin2222
@lezzeppelin2222 8 ай бұрын
Why this oriental guy black t- shirt keep saying “ LIKE “ 😂
@veramann
@veramann 9 ай бұрын
Damn it. I need to buy a business or own an investment in order to have steady income w/o working, so I can be like these two dudes with the most hottest Southeast Asian chicks in the world. LOL
@elperro3056
@elperro3056 9 ай бұрын
Thailand woman nice but it anit shit compare Eastern Europe bro or South America but that require game 🥴 compare to Asia 🫡
@ahlads
@ahlads 10 ай бұрын
The URL of his channel in the description is giving me 404 not found.
@method341
@method341 10 ай бұрын
Many of those supposedly 'hi-so' Thais are broke af and living off credit cards 😂😂
@picandvideo
@picandvideo 5 ай бұрын
Your friend is not even in 30 but real wise in many aspects. Very surprised 👍
@TheChadNapier
@TheChadNapier 10 ай бұрын
Great video dudes from hua hin.
@denisefitzgerald7653
@denisefitzgerald7653 10 ай бұрын
Great Interview.
@ranctil3
@ranctil3 10 ай бұрын
Focus on the journey not the destination, everyone should take this wise advice and apply it to their own lives.
@elperro3056
@elperro3056 9 ай бұрын
Let be honest most passport bro go over sea cus it cheap 2 k and u make it 😁 safety too in Asia
@CHANGOSMILES
@CHANGOSMILES 10 ай бұрын
Big fan of both of you!!!
@forlua9211
@forlua9211 8 ай бұрын
00:13:45 Yes, Thailand is moving toward liberalism but not the extreme/absurd liberalism like in the west. In the west, being extreme is usually seen as being confident, smart, brave, on the other hand, in Thailand, it is usually perceived as being closed-minded and selfish. Thailand is a collective society and most importantly a buddhist society, doing or saying anything that make other people suffer is never consider as a good thing.
@niamahmah666
@niamahmah666 5 ай бұрын
No liberalism,no thanks
@JaclkPluto-bm7cm
@JaclkPluto-bm7cm 10 ай бұрын
Lee for lee
@Selfimageisyours
@Selfimageisyours 10 ай бұрын
I didn't know I needed this collar.. too slick..
@johnrud3189
@johnrud3189 10 ай бұрын
Paul, what about health care in Thailand. I know you are young, but you must go to dentist. Also, what about taxes? Do you file in America or Thailand? Are you still resident of NewYork?
@lezzeppelin2222
@lezzeppelin2222 8 ай бұрын
Asian people gets bullied more than other races that is why he moved to Thailand 🤪
@elperro3056
@elperro3056 9 ай бұрын
Aisa passport bro respect 🫡
@elperro3056
@elperro3056 9 ай бұрын
Ya look like brother 🫡
@dexterspeights3484
@dexterspeights3484 10 ай бұрын
NYC > USA is the most expensive in the world to retire for 2023. Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand and U.A.E is cheaper than NYC!
@antoinepury4137
@antoinepury4137 8 ай бұрын
Great video! Thank you for your sharing your experiences. Having lived in bkk for 1 years, I couldn’t agree more with you guys.
@offhamsterwheel2789
@offhamsterwheel2789 10 ай бұрын
when Paul started saying Everybody this and Everybody that in Thailand, my BS meter starts to go off, c'mon now...
@uBenji1234
@uBenji1234 10 ай бұрын
Hey there Forrest! Super good tip concerning those 2 bars u mentioned to hang out with some expats/japanese guys in BKK. Super, thanx!! I am considering checking out BKK after X-mas/this spring for a few days. Would u be interested in meeting up in BKK after X-mas?
@SynCoz3
@SynCoz3 10 ай бұрын
You guys made me feel that I'm lucky to born in this country and I learnt alot from your aboard perspectives. Just additional information, the vibe of peacefulness and caring of Thais may come from Budhism belief that is strongly mixed in Thailand culture. So as long as Budhism belief is strong here, people will continue to have a certain degree of peaceful mind. However, Budhism in Thailand changed into a worse way of believing in ghosts, praying for luck and etc instead of the core teaching of Buhda himself.
@SimpleMan038
@SimpleMan038 10 ай бұрын
I follow both of you. and soon. I'll be over there doing the exact same thing. God willing
@ClarenceWilliams-k7z
@ClarenceWilliams-k7z 9 ай бұрын
Very good video and very honest about their life journey and being able to find your place and your peace 🙏✌️
@nj2mddude205
@nj2mddude205 10 ай бұрын
Hi Forest, you're a great interviewer. Can you interview some more American expats and discuss the economic opportunities that these expats have taken advantage of in Thailand?
@simplefilemaker327
@simplefilemaker327 10 ай бұрын
Wow. Amazing combo. Quality chat
@HK-xs9yg
@HK-xs9yg 10 ай бұрын
When you’re young strive for the best and nyc was honestly one of the most hustle city of the entire world. Ppl say living in nyc changes them to have thicker skin. I’ve visited thailand and as great as it is, it’s missing the entrepreneur side of things that the US has. Felt the same in europe as well. There are great ppl living there just enough for the means. Great food, cheap living, friendly ppl. Literally a paradise and you get sucked into the comfort of things. Get bunch of broke nomads doing digital marketing or selling courses or you get retired expats living on their retirement funds. But if you really want to have opportunities and meet like minded ppl that wants to grind then theres no better network than the US/nyc
@dexterspeights3484
@dexterspeights3484 10 ай бұрын
NYC SUCKS 100%
@garoonbennett5424
@garoonbennett5424 10 ай бұрын
Guys smash the Like it’s real easy!
@juliovilla5246
@juliovilla5246 10 ай бұрын
But how much is enough?
@xx-soshi-xx6437
@xx-soshi-xx6437 7 ай бұрын
Awesome interview!!!
@MrT1-b5f
@MrT1-b5f 10 ай бұрын
You two can pass as brothers hahaha
@lordpinus4599
@lordpinus4599 10 ай бұрын
You guys look alike.
@ellvtv2314
@ellvtv2314 10 ай бұрын
Nice to the see the Lee twins together. So who's Arnold, and who's Devito?
@Jsbc-k8h
@Jsbc-k8h 10 ай бұрын
Man good stuff Paul 👍
@enzosolo2321
@enzosolo2321 10 ай бұрын
I love Thailand
@nofood1
@nofood1 10 ай бұрын
I’m meeting a lot of New Yorkers lately in SEA, nice to see folks leaving the slave capital of the world..
@arg888
@arg888 10 ай бұрын
Truths that are the crux of what Paul is saying. 1) hustle culture in the US is not for everyone. If you're not on the top making $10 million a year, it ain't worth it. That's why many young people check out of the west these days. Also for some, it's nice moving to a place where you (think) that you're not last in the pecking order. 2) If you're Asian in America, you'll feel more comfortable among people who look like yourself. 3) Most people of move out of the U.S. do it not because of wokism, but because of economic reasons, retirees and digital nomads alike. It's not for the culture. And my own take, is that when things go well living abroad they're great, but if and when you learn the language, hear what other people say about you, and also if you find yourself on the wrong side of the law, your opinion will change quickly.
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