While I like the larger tire setup that you have, I think a 50 lb. 285/70/17(K02 or Recon Grappler Standard Load or MT BB Standard Load) is probably the best setup to go with if you want to stay with a stock suspension/no regear and still hit 20mpg at lower elevation/moderate temps. Things I learned to fitting larger tires on stock suspension are Offset is crucial (0 to +12), adjust caster via lower control arm (stock is 2.4, I had mine adjusted to 3.2 degrees, not sure why most don't mention this or know that it can be adjusted) and at that point the only other adjustment needed is to move the wheel liner forward via zip ties
@quicksendtaco6 ай бұрын
Yeah 20 mpg is killer and if you have a lot more weight I'm even more impressed I'm just stating that if you were build out like mine 16 mpg may be the best you see without a regear. I agree 285/70 on stock suspension of even a small level kit or bilstein lift is perfect for 99% of people who have a pretty other wise stock truck. Also Recon Grapplers look so good.
@devildog116820 күн бұрын
This is the first setup I’ll put on my 3rd gen Tacoma..perfect
@quicksendtaco20 күн бұрын
If I could go back again I would have as well!
@pawcrawlowens8730Ай бұрын
Just put a 2.5 inch OME Lift on, and bought a set of 265 70 17 nitto ridge grapplers on trd wheels, its perfect
@quicksendtacoАй бұрын
Those are great tires!
@eliasbeas35565 ай бұрын
I run 285/75r16 Falken Wildpeaks on my 3rd gen and im also regeared to 4:88s. I highly recommend getting gears. Really gives the truck its low end grunt back. I get about 17.5 mpg if I keep it less than 70mph. I want to go 34s next and so glad I have the gears for that. Im looking to lose about 1mpg when I go 34s.
@quicksendtaco5 ай бұрын
It will probably be a next year thing but yeah 16-17mpg sounds nice. Even so I love the 34s you wont regret it one bit.
@dal-kj7yv5 ай бұрын
For a cost effective daily, i personally only use suspension components with rubber bushings as opposed to spherical bearings. A lot of folks aren't going to be able to service their own spherical bearings due to lack of knowledge/tools/time/etc. While it’s not too difficult, it is something to consider. I am speaking from experience going from Elkas to Dobinsons. Love both, but was tired of pulling the elkas every year or so to replace worn out sphericals. Also, very informational, thanks for putting out these videos!
@quicksendtaco5 ай бұрын
Icon makes their own serviceable lower ring and spherical bearing kit for like $60. I can see that bothering people who only relay on shops though. Ideally we’d all rock the OEM rubbers on each kit haha. Thanks!
@NVLunarTaco6 ай бұрын
Not bad. I daily my adventure/overland truck 😊 I’m currently on 265/70R17 17x9 -12mm 1.5” front / 1.75” rear MPG ~17.5 Once these tires wear out, I’m hoping to get 285’s/33” It’ll give me time to prep for the bigger size (cutting, UCA) Thanks for the breakdown.
@quicksendtaco6 ай бұрын
Danggg I miss the days of seeing 18-20 mpg. 285s are honestly a really great tire, I loved that size as well. Another golden standard for sure!
@Illuminatethedark_26 күн бұрын
It sounds silly, but another factor in suspension/lift/tire setups is to see how high up the truck is compared to the driver. If you could show yourself standing by the truck and tell us your height, that would also help in figuring out how I want to build my truck.
@quicksendtaco26 күн бұрын
I suppose this could be considered but my truck isn't very tall all things considered... It's only about a 2.5 inch lift plus tires. But I am on the taller side of Tacoma drivers I'm 6'4 and my wife is 5'8. I'll try and get a shot of myself next to the truck in an upcoming video!
@JoseMartinez-ms3bjАй бұрын
Really enjoyed the video. I am currently building my 2017 Sport and a lot of your information helped. Keep the good info coming.
@quicksendtacoАй бұрын
I love hearing that man I appreciate that and I’m super happy that this is helpful that’s really the main goal for me!
@Shadowdancer7776 ай бұрын
I went with a extremely light 17 pound wheel. Makes a huge difference in handling. Thinking of getting ko3's when my stock tires wear out.
@quicksendtaco5 ай бұрын
Those Ko3s look slick man I'd love to hear how you like them once you do get a set.
@MrBetoybrenda6 ай бұрын
I’m running 295/75/16 no rubbing no cutting. Trd Baja 16 wheels +20 offset
@quicksendtaco6 ай бұрын
Niceee! That offset making things happen!
@Roosternurse6 ай бұрын
I run 255/80 r17 Cooper Discoverer S/T Maxx on 0 offset wheels with 2.5 front OME springs and 5100’s, no rub, nice stance
@quicksendtaco6 ай бұрын
That looks like a nice setup! a little narrower of a tire but thats all personal preference. 5100s are a staple as well.
@BlueSTI6 ай бұрын
Awesome video. Your setup is perfect. Im running 305/70r17 same size a 34 with a 3.5 in lift. They look like 35s so no point getting a bigger tire. 0.4 inch difference from a 35 you can't even notice. My mpg sucks 12.9-13 mpg average but I'm on a mud terrain. I copied how you cut the back fender with the pinch weld looks really good and oem ish lol. I rather not regear either haven't noticed a power drop just the mpg lol. Only thing i would change for me is to an all terrain to see if maybe a little better mpg. Love the look of your truck man
@quicksendtaco6 ай бұрын
Right on! Yeah MT doesn't make a 305 but I have a feeling they are a similar fit. I'm guessing you have a Nitto tire? They make a lot of 305s. Oh awesome yeah I think that is the most amount of cutting I'd want to do any more and it could get a little ugly for me haha. Where do you live? I'm here in CA and it is definitely not flat but I also drive super gingerly when I'm daily-ing it. I'll make a final decision on a re-gear after I add the bumpers this year. I really hope i dont need to. Thanks again!
@zlothra5 ай бұрын
I have the C4 inner fender liner and didn't trim my outer fenders. 2017 TRD Sport As long as the spacers are hub centric you won't run into as many issues. Spacers do increase wear on hubs, same as wheels with an aggressive much offset. There have been multiple shops around me that will refuse to work on and even align a vehicle with spacers.
@quicksendtaco5 ай бұрын
Woah, really??? Never heard of a shop refusing business because of spacers haha their loss. How is the C4 kit without the fender trim isn't it just a cab mount relocation at that point all the other stuff is just cleaner looking but as functional as what I did.
@zlothra5 ай бұрын
@@quicksendtaco Same, until it happened to my friend. He ended up finding a spot that didn't care. I didn't get the full kit since I had the DRT cab mount relocation before, so I just bought the metal fender liner. I'm planning on doing the viper cut like you eventually, so figured it would make it look cleaner. I was original planning on 35s but cost and life got in the way. So I'm chilling on 265/70r17 right now but at least I'll have some extra room when the time comes. I'll probably go with the same size and tire you have, or 285/70r17.
@quicksendtaco5 ай бұрын
@@zlothra Yeah no rush, a 285 or 295 will be a great fit I think in the wheel well with that’s kit you have from C4.
@J.Young8086 ай бұрын
I’m looking to go with a 255/85R16 with a 0 offset 16” Volk TE37T wheel with stock suspension. I’m looking to get C rated tires (hard part to find) to keep the weight down so MPG’s aren’t affected as much. I am also going to get the OTT tune.
@quicksendtaco6 ай бұрын
I didn't mention it in the video but I am also running an OTT tune makes a huge difference!
@eddydubois44116 ай бұрын
Excellent video as always. I'm running 265 tires. Next year maybe a ome 2 inch lift.
@quicksendtaco6 ай бұрын
Thank YOU as always Eddy! Plenty more coming up in the very near future! 265, 285, 295, whatever it is taking it slow is the most important. I hear good things about OME.
@FortuneTacoAZ6 ай бұрын
I know spacers have mixed opinions, I've never ran them before but I'm curious on how you feel about them? Have you enjoyed them so far and do you have anything you don't like about them?
@quicksendtaco6 ай бұрын
No issues ever, I have had them on for over a year now and had them on some of the toughest trails I have been on. I love em gives me the flexibility to change wheel setups or run larger tires without getting new wheels and adjust offset on the fly. In the future I may do a stud conversion so i can run different spacer sizes. I also had them on many other cars never had issues. Just gotta use the red lock tight and proper torque specs.
@RoyFJ654 ай бұрын
I just keep it stock on my FJ except for Bilstein 6112 and Yokohama MT G003 tires that gets me through wherever I wish to go.
@quicksendtaco4 ай бұрын
It's wild how far you can honestly get with a stock vehicle! I ran it stock for over a year when I first got it.
@kevinmeldrum16 ай бұрын
Running 35's KO2s get 20mpg highway city 15ish with combined 18. rides great didn’t regear and don’t think it’s needed. I live in Southern California, and it does great going through the mountains
@quicksendtaco6 ай бұрын
Do you have any armor, bumpers etc, bed rack, roof rack and or roof top tent? I couldn't get 20 mpg even if I was driving down hill haha If not then yeah totally makes sense and thats rad!
@kevinmeldrum16 ай бұрын
@@quicksendtaco front bumper, front skid, RSI cap.
@quicksendtaco6 ай бұрын
@@kevinmeldrum1 That's some voodoo magic haha are the tires 35x12.50/17 or 315/70/17?
@kevinmeldrum16 ай бұрын
@@quicksendtaco also drive like an old man. I know it's not a race car.
@quicksendtaco6 ай бұрын
Haha well then you got me beat and I think I drive super slow as well XD
@diruelas6 ай бұрын
Great video have you ever considered going with 285/75/17’s instead of the 295/70/17’s
@quicksendtaco5 ай бұрын
Yeah I'm not personally a fan of a taller skinny tire as opposed to a wider one. The 295/70 is just a little bit more proportionate when you compare directly to a 315/70.
@Dirtbeaver6 ай бұрын
I looked for a long time before I chose my tires, I wanted something light I ended up with 285/70/17 cooper discover at3 on 17 inch KMC 542 wheels. This tire and wheel only weighs 68 lbs per tire and wheel. And I’m getting 18-19 mpgs.
@quicksendtaco5 ай бұрын
Makes sense those have an SL load rating so much fewer plys and much lighter with that size. That's rad you got a setup to be under 70lbs. Do you have any armor or racks that could also be added weight? 18-19mpg is pretty close to what a stock Tacoma gets.
@Dirtbeaver5 ай бұрын
@@quicksendtaco Putting a front bumper on this weekend, other than the king suspension lift it’s all stock. When it was stock I got 21-22 mpg.
@quicksendtaco5 ай бұрын
@@Dirtbeaver Steel or aluminum? Gosh it's been since pre pandemic that I had anything close to 20mpg...
@Dirtbeaver5 ай бұрын
@@quicksendtaco Aluminum. Mine also has the OTT tune also.
@quicksendtaco5 ай бұрын
@@Dirtbeaver Nice yeah 50lbs added to an otherwise stock vehicle won't hurt you too much and that tune will help as well. It's adding 50lbs a month that gets you lol
@vangxiong33996 ай бұрын
Free QST Patch…me. Saw it in the description. 😊 I interested in the 255/85r17 (skinny - less weight and about 1in taller) Mickey Thompson Baja Boss. What is your opinion on those tires?
@quicksendtaco6 ай бұрын
Haha! Nice - shoot me an email at nick.salsbury@gmail.com with your name and address and I'll get one out to you. Great tire 100% recommend it. No experience with that size but can only imagine it will also perform well.
@brentbarry49833 ай бұрын
Would the tires fit without the spacer ?
@quicksendtaco3 ай бұрын
They would not, no. They would make contact with the upper control arms.
@jsan484 ай бұрын
35s or bust! 😂😂 nice vid 👍🏻
@quicksendtaco4 ай бұрын
One day maybe! Thanks!
@jt6mania5584 ай бұрын
Do you have a link for those spacers?
@quicksendtaco4 ай бұрын
Yessir! Here is the product link sswoffroad.com/products/30mm-hubcentric-wheel-spacers
@jt6mania5584 ай бұрын
You're a Legend, thanks
@MichaelNicassio6 ай бұрын
🐐🐐🐐
@quicksendtaco6 ай бұрын
GOAT mode engaged!
@acousticguitars1236 күн бұрын
35's are overrated, hope you got a gear swap
@quicksendtaco6 күн бұрын
Agreed! No plans for 35s anytime soon. Re-gear is on my 2025 to do list!
@uno38635 ай бұрын
I'm running 265/75/r16 toyo open country rt trails on 16" black rhino's shogun with -10 offset on a stock height 2012 toyota tacoma TRD sport, and it looks great for what I need it for, light trail driving and cool looks 😎🤘🏾
@quicksendtaco5 ай бұрын
I’m a sucker for Black Rhino wheels!
@uno38635 ай бұрын
@@quicksendtaco right?! They look awesome
@joeyvonny51465 ай бұрын
Any rubbing at all and how much tire poke is there?
@quicksendtaco5 ай бұрын
@@joeyvonny5146 No rubbing at all. Not sure about how much poke, I haven’t measured but it’s a 8.5 inch wide wheel with a -30 final offset.