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@moonchildeverlasting99047 ай бұрын
in ... chinese version its only 1 old guy and hired guns on the ship. in netflix version they put an entire school of children inside the ship. WTF netflix?
@thisusernamenowtaken7 ай бұрын
I'd be intersted to learn if you've seen the *_三体 Three-body_* Episode 29 version of the same scene. Yes, _29._ Becuse the *Chinese TV series* used 30 episodes for the first book, whereas *Netflix* only used five. *_Five._*
@moonchildeverlasting99047 ай бұрын
@@thisusernamenowtaken Its not even the number of episodes. the quality is like comparing professional television work to some barren harmful soap opera (netflix) - chinese version get me excited, netflix makes me yawn of boredom. that easy. also it is quite funny how Chinese 6th longer version is so much better then the cut one.
@davestr70317 ай бұрын
Thank you Chinese Person for your insightful comparison.
@moonchildeverlasting99047 ай бұрын
@@davestr7031 im not chinese. I just watched the chinese version : ) . it is on amazon as three-body
@sigurdkaputnik70227 ай бұрын
That's cutting edge technology right there.
@LilMissMorpho7 ай бұрын
literally lol
@oxigen857 ай бұрын
HAH! 😂
@EXMUTRKS7 ай бұрын
Pun intended.
@PassiveAgressive3197 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@barbaraott4077 ай бұрын
Too soon😢
@123j4j7 ай бұрын
Really turned them into a 3 body problem.
@SavannahSedai7 ай бұрын
🥁
@thecaptainsunchained7 ай бұрын
By the way the nano silk is set, 3 body problem is for kids. 4 body problem for adults
@travelback57007 ай бұрын
Lie down and you won't get sliced.
@tomarnold72847 ай бұрын
@@travelback5700 the book explained it must take place at day time for that very reason.
@calogjzc276 ай бұрын
@@travelback5700 you do risk getting peeled; and I think that might be worse. . .
@DarriannMariee7 ай бұрын
I really hope they finish this series. The books are absolutely INCREDIBLE!
@igorruste11877 ай бұрын
We deserve the tear drop at the very least
@hanyolo20417 ай бұрын
what a useless comment. It's a fantastic trilogy. @@onurkayarlar935
@ICU13377 ай бұрын
It seems like they're already working on the next season, writing wise, but I dont know how this is going to work out... The shows already been pushed out of the top 10 after less than a week and it cost $160m to make ($20m an episode). Shows that have cost half as much and done just as well, numbers wise, have been axed. For all the hate Paul gives to D&D, they might be the only reason why this show gets renewed, season to season.
@SK4M_Freal7 ай бұрын
Absolutely incredible. We do need to see a live-action of the Droplet and I wanna know if were gonna see a Trisol.......San-Ti alien. Coz ive heard some fans have a wild theory on their size.🧐
@NicoNico-re1rq7 ай бұрын
Not really content for video.its just big ideas which can work only in books,many scifi books have this problem.i doubt they will continue,need lost of money and a lot of changes to work as show or movie.
@janechoy20737 ай бұрын
I will never look at dental floss the same way again.
@ShabbaChef5 ай бұрын
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@javidjohn57424 ай бұрын
Because of the fortnite flossing dance @@ShabbaChef
@Travis.5567 ай бұрын
That weapon would demoralize enemy forces. It’s terrifying
@heavyspoilers7 ай бұрын
Yeah so messed up, no point in even fighting back
@Maya_Ruinz7 ай бұрын
Absolutely, I would go so far as to say that nano-fiber would usher in a new era equivalent to the invention of steel or plastic. The potential as a weapon is clear but it would lead to something truly beyond our ability to imagine.
@olamideolaleye56907 ай бұрын
wait till you see the droplet
@jamiestewart487 ай бұрын
@@olamideolaleye5690 Oh, fuck. It's been so long since I read the books yet the second you said that my heart sank like when I read that section. How about when our solar system is minding it's own business then boom 2D!
@haakoflo7 ай бұрын
This weapon really isn't more demoralizing than plenty of other weapons in existence, neither to enemy forces or civilian populations. We've just grown extremly sensitive to this kind of sensory input, and also very good at prenting them graphically. Also, the children make it even more emotional. But compared to counless weapons employed in the past, this really doesn't stand out.
@lynnchance82197 ай бұрын
Book readers: you bugs ain't see nothing yet.
@forrestfreeri7947 ай бұрын
wait for the foil
@lynnchance82197 ай бұрын
@@forrestfreeri794 What a lovely painting you are.
@Zero_Requiem7 ай бұрын
@@lynnchance8219😱
@Zett767 ай бұрын
I hear that a lot. That also means that they WASTE a lot of time, to get to the "good stuff"... No, thank you. I quit at episode 6, after constantly drifting off. Incredibly boring. Maybe I'll read the books, though.
@traviso78107 ай бұрын
It brings a tear droplet to my eye.
@kristijan85187 ай бұрын
For me personally the scene where the aliens warned Ye Wenji not to reply, and she did anyway was waaaay more horrifying than the ship scene. It's death of thousand vs death of the entire human race.
@mauriciobecker79167 ай бұрын
I m still asking myself, why they didnt want a reply?
@chrisnotyou7 ай бұрын
@@mauriciobecker7916because that particular alien knew his people would wreck any intelligent species they found. As is most likely the case in reality for any type 1-2 civilization. You don't want competition on a galactic scale. As long as a species is relegated to one planet, they aren't a threat to your multi planet society. As a multi planet society you ALWAYS have the high ground. If you let another species get out into space, it puts your species in danger because now you are both competing for the high ground. If aliens do know about us, AND want us gone. We are already gone. And there is nothing we can do about it. They could wipe us out from distances so vast they would not even have to get out of bed. Even if they did grace us with a system visit, all they would have to do is throw rocks at us from the belt until we are gone or surrender. Assuming they care if we surrender. A type 3 and above simply would not care about us and would just ignore us, however, then we have the lawnmower problem. Ever mowed the lawn and carefully avoided the ant nests as you did? Or even check if there were any nests there in the first place? We are currently a type .75 civilization. I bet we have already lost, if there is an alien intelligence out there aware of us.
@mauriciobecker79167 ай бұрын
@seraeggobutterworth5247 Thanks!!! And what about the Santis VR. Who send it
@jaywatson87207 ай бұрын
That part made my heart sink. Those dead eyes she had when she did it.
@chayophan30787 ай бұрын
@@mauriciobecker7916Having neither read the books nor watched the series, the following statement might be based upon erroneous assumptions. Rather than asking why the call was returned in spite of warnings to the contrary, I have a better question. Given the significance of not responding (the magnitude of what was at stake), why not simply make responding impossible? Even with our comparatively primitive communications tech, we have the ability to block incoming calls. Again, this line of thought might be completely wrong or pointless due to plot elements of which I am not aware that render it so. Maybe it's finally time to read the series. I've avoided it thus far because I've already absorbed so much information through various sources and mediums that I fear the books may have lost impact potential. Also, I've heard many times that, while the overall story is amazing, the books are poor written. I'm definitely open to suggestions either wAy.
@doctormoobbc7 ай бұрын
For anyone wondering WHY they did this it's explained in the books better. They need to retrieve the data core from the server. How do they get it quickly? You can't infiltrate them because you have no spies on the inside, you can't do a normal Navy SEAL style attack because they could destroy the core before you get to it. But the nanofibers are invisible and they PERFECTLY cut objects. So you can cut through the whole ship before anyone understands what is even happening and simple reassemble the data core even if it's cut to pieces. They subtly foreshadowed this with the earlier diamond cutting scene where they perfectly cut a diamond. This was the only way they could quickly get the data core to study Sophon in more detail. Getting rid of the cult was a nice side benefit as they considered them terrorists/traitors.
@Tom-bi7ir7 ай бұрын
legend, found the show too slow, typical dumb bloke that needs things go bang for my attention span to keep up so yeh, but thank you
@hanyolo20417 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@protonjones547 ай бұрын
All of that is explained in the show too...
@GForceIntel7 ай бұрын
That was common sense, plus they are humanity's enemy. They were not innocent.
@thekueken7 ай бұрын
Yeah, but one wrong slice and the core would have been cut in half as well?
@erikaarnold47807 ай бұрын
The Universe “winking” messed me up.👀🤦🏾♀️
@TheDeadlyefx6 ай бұрын
That sh*t BLEW MY MIND!!! 😳😳😳
@jfost2817 ай бұрын
While reading the book, this scene alone stood out as one that would work really well in a movie, and it did, but with the horrific addition of children. Unless I'm mistaken, there were no kids directly implied being on the ship in the book, so it was a bit of a shock. But I guess the children were included for emotional impact.
@ManabiLT4 ай бұрын
The book didn't go into much detail about the ship being sliced up at all, much less mention children. I think the show over-sensationalized it to the point it made the scene not work. In the book it's implied no one had time to react and the servers were simply sliced up with the hard drives being intact. The book had to mess with that and make it seem unlikely the drive would have been salvageable.
@TalkingPoliticsWithCatsandDogs2 ай бұрын
I agree, I just read the scene in the book, and they were concerned that they would be killing innocent people who are just working for the cult. You got the impression that everyone on the boat was a scientist. I guess they could have had their families with them, but it seemed like it was just workers.
@rachelfox8108Ай бұрын
Part of me thinks they included the children as foreshadowing for later, working with the idea that this ship, like the San-Ti's ship, is a generation ship including not just the adults working with malicious intent, but their children who have no agenda at all. (Not to mention the Starship Earth much later on in the series). If the showrunners know what they're doing as they seem to here, this is the first step of an overarching parallel in order to build on a larger theme.
@jcole16797 ай бұрын
"We did so many offscreen" - director in regards to not killing children in the most horrific way imaginable on screen
@theTimeIsNow20094 ай бұрын
I’m so glad they didn’t show the children being killed on screen. I kept yelling at my tv, “please don’t do it, please”. I can’t stand to see children treated thar way….even though it’s not real in a movie.
@baconater41994 ай бұрын
@@theTimeIsNow2009bruh the point is that in the grand scheme it don’t matter
@CurrypkatRamonlab4 ай бұрын
@@baconater4199 You didn't read the books ?
3 ай бұрын
Would have made it better if they showed it
@Estelle20072 ай бұрын
Scene's like this but instead with no explanation are what the movie Nope should've been. A violent David-Lynch style apocalypse where reality spontaneously turns against us.
@DrDetfink7 ай бұрын
As terrifying as that scene was, what the aliens can do in the next two books makes it look like nothing.
@JezebelIsHongry7 ай бұрын
Droplets 💧 have left the chat
@heavyspoilers7 ай бұрын
Sounds like a nice gift from the Trisolarians, hope it doesn’t wipe out all of the space fleet
@bxcloud1047 ай бұрын
Never read the books, but watched some videos because you know can't wait. Jesus Frieza and Beerus can't even do that.
@DrDetfink7 ай бұрын
@@bxcloud104 I read the books and saw the Chinese live action interpretation and I gotta say this is the first time I’m actually rooting for the aliens 👽 which may be intentional.
@sigurdkaputnik70227 ай бұрын
No spoilers please 😉
@JassonSchrock7 ай бұрын
I was nervous about the adaptation, but they did a great job keeping the science and improving the flat characters from the book. Looking forward to more discussions!
@espressomatic7 ай бұрын
The more I think about or discuss the show, the less I enjoy it. I'll probably try to completely forget about it until Season 2 so I can then enjoy that.
@Escape.Velocity7 ай бұрын
This take is insane. This is a decent adaptation, but the book is incredible. I’m trying to figure out why they split the one main male character into two different female characters. It felt slow compared to the book and didn’t have the same impact as one scientist piecing this mystery together all on his own. Not to mention the introduction of the extra 4 male characters who have absolutely nothing of interest to do for basically the entire show until the last two episodes.
@jeffbachman29494 ай бұрын
@@Escape.Velocityi.think the show improved the characters from the books.
@ricwhite6127 ай бұрын
seeing the opening scene of ghost ship as child ingrained that image in my head for my entire life, i even think about it every time i get on a boat
@Clint35716 ай бұрын
This scene ruined the series for me. It makes absolutely no sense. They said they didn't want a bloodbath by sending in special forces so they just kill everyone? Also, how did they know that the data drive would not get sliced? How did they know that the data drive would not get crushed or burned in a mountain of burning ship ribbons? Lastly, how did nobody else notice a sliced-apart ship on the Panama Canal in the weeks it must have taken to search through the wreckage?
@RealAndySkibba7 ай бұрын
Yep. Pretty crazy scene. Way more scary than Ghost Ship scene since it was all invisible.
@Katarina-wr2hi7 ай бұрын
whats a ghost ship scene? tried to google it/ didn't work
@RealAndySkibba7 ай бұрын
@@Katarina-wr2hi ghost ship is a movie with a similar scene
@markcarey677 ай бұрын
I hope they manage to pull off the droplet scene from the second book. If you think that this scene was devastating that is on a whole other level.
@Katarina-wr2hi7 ай бұрын
whats going on there&&
@jayknight1396 ай бұрын
yea tell us
@tragictwo10296 ай бұрын
@@jayknight139it's a HUGE spoiler. It happens in the year 2200 or something. Humanity at that point has a real space fleet. The droplet is a San-Ti spaceship-weapon that hits targets at ftl speed, killing millions of people and threatening earth
@mohanliu34946 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see the 2d version of solar system
@ManabiLT4 ай бұрын
@@mohanliu3494 The descriptions of that were amazing in the book, I'm looking forward to it as well.
@marknovak64987 ай бұрын
It was a scary scene. The book describes it, but the show puts the horror in it.
@trauty6667 ай бұрын
look at chinese version of the same scene.
@Katarina-wr2hi7 ай бұрын
@@trauty666 which episode is that?
@Kaizuk0hakupac5 ай бұрын
i don't know man, I didn't feel scared, those were the enemies of Humankind, why would i be scared for them? I'll tell you what though "Do not Answer, Do not Answer, Do not Answer" had me shitting my pants way worse than gore and death. There's scary, and then there's "If you respond, We will come."
@michellemiller53317 ай бұрын
Yes oh my goodness my jaw was on the floor 💯 I agree !!!!!! Thank you so much for covering this series this is absolutely my favorite show ever !
@krisztianunpronounceable7 ай бұрын
My first thought was "Wow, they're pulling a Cube!"
@ManabiLT4 ай бұрын
Same here, although in _The Cube_ the wires cubed the guy, not just sliced.
@krisztianunpronounceable4 ай бұрын
@@ManabiLT Right, but still awesome!
@stevef83957 ай бұрын
“Your Nano fibers will save lives Auggie.” …. Record scratch 😮
@tokyworld6 ай бұрын
just not theirs lol
@michaelrogers60087 ай бұрын
I laughed so hard in episode 2 when Auggie Salazar was speaking with the detective and she said " I think I disappointment her because I quit her course and switched into applied science" and he said "maybe that's why she killed herself" That was so freaking funny. Great show but funniest line.
@richardlandrum7146 ай бұрын
The detective is my favorite character/actor of the series. He nailed his role
i rmb i first watched him in johnny english, and then in one fantastic episode of Black Mirror. he really went onto act in so many crazy good movies and even in MCU. love his character so much
@spamfilter327 ай бұрын
What this show calls nanofibers is a concept that has existed in sci-fi for decades. Since at least the early 80's. In cyberpunk literature they are referred to as monofilament wires. and in cyberpunk, one of the uses is as a weapon. monofilament garrote's are used to sever peoples heads, and put on the leading edges of swords to make them sharper then the sharpest scalpels. Of course, while these monofilament or nanofibers would be weaponized, and they would make navy's obsolete (string a nanofiber between to submersible 2000 dollar drones and they would easily sink any multi-billion dollar aircraft carrier), but the most significant use of such fibers would be to build space elevators with. Space elevators would revolutionize the space industry and would make moon bases and moon mining possible, as it would completely eliminate the cost of rocket fuel to deliver and retrieve payloads form space.
@esecallum7 ай бұрын
how come the spool does not get cut?????????
@spamfilter327 ай бұрын
@@esecallum it could break, depends on tensile strength.
@rieyuki7 ай бұрын
Wasn’t the possibility of space elevators the reason why the Trisolarans targeted Wang (Auggie in Netflix) with the countdown? I need to read the books.
@spamfilter327 ай бұрын
@@rieyuki I haven't read the books, but this was the first thing that popped into my head. I have watched a lot of videos by futurists and the topic of Space Elevators and what we need to make them a reality is something that has been on my mind for a while now.
@pokemonfanmario76947 ай бұрын
Also how does the spool cut when in the ship scene the ship is lazily going at a speed that, from my limited understanding on fibers, be slow enough for there not to be enough pressure to force the spool to penetrate (at least, not until the ship moves far enough where the spool generates the required pressure via tugging)? Additionally, it seems to have been going slow enough where a person getting cut would actually be able to notice in time via pain to move out the way.
@lermentov18417 ай бұрын
As you started getting into at the end - there's a huge emphasis on drawing from very real experiments that have been done, but pushing them to the absolute limits of what we think could be possible (because their science is now halted). It's a point made by Wade later ("develop the technology we already have"). There are examples of this throughout the series, but you could probably do a good video on Nuclear Pulse Propulsion and episode 8, if you wanted to. Specifically look at "Project Orion" within nuclear prolusion. It was intended to accelerate towards Alpha Centauri, which is also where the San Ti are from (4 lightyears away in a three body system).
@Mangolite7 ай бұрын
What I like about this episode from Netflix is that they treated Mike Evans as a charismatic cult leader with his followers, and most of them stayed and lived with him on the Judgement Day ship. That is why the nanofiber scene was so impactful. That being said, the show writers failed to make Evans at least try to destroy the data disk because that was the whole point of using the nanofibers.
@ryankwon87857 ай бұрын
I think Netflix's Mike Evans still believes that the San-Ti have a reason for letting Wade destroy Judgment Day so he kept the disk safe. This works well since the San-Ti literally allowed Wade to access the files despite the warning that it will take millions of years to decrypt. Nevertheless, I think the ETO was handled better in the Netflix show because it shows that they are a morally gray organization that still believe humanity can improve if they coexist with the San-Ti.
@Escape.Velocity7 ай бұрын
I think the creative decision to make Judgement Day less of a military vessel and more of a cult-like commune was excellent. It made the scene more horrific and visceral. My nitpick is seeing Mike Evans communicating with the Trisolarans over an old radio with his voice rather than being with text on a computer. I get why they did it, but scientifically it makes no sense. We couldn’t have phone conversations in real-time with aliens in a ship that is several light years away without having faster-than-light communication, which we have not discovered yet. I get that it’s sci-fi but the whole plot is that human technological progress has been stopped.
@ryankwon87857 ай бұрын
@@Escape.Velocity The San-Ti gave the ETO their advanced technology while sabotaging humanity’s science at the same time. This is technically a thing since the Wallbreakers were given advanced tech to sabotage the Wallfacers.
@nikitaw19827 ай бұрын
he played a similar role as a james bond villian
@Mangolite7 ай бұрын
@@Escape.Velocity With how D&D decided to make the show their own, they changed some of the mechanics of how the narrative works. In the book, there was no alien VR headset but a contemporary VR HMD with a full-body suit, and players were invited through an online portal monitor by the ETO. By introducing the alien wares and how the Sophons (protons) covers the world, we lead to believe that through the Sophons, that is how Evan’s were able to communicate with the San-Ti/Trisolarian in real time.
@Armuotas6 ай бұрын
I had this thought that even just throwing a thimble of nano-fibers onto someone would be their doom. You can't see the fibers, you can't untangle, and even the slightest movement would make then cuts deeper. Being wrapped into a barb-wire sounds like a walk in the park in comparison.
@Sycoinc7 ай бұрын
That scene was a literal jaw drop moment
@theclaybeartravels35967 ай бұрын
Its like I knew nanofiber scene was coming but I didn't realize how horrifying it was when it was actually happening.
@Tekdruid6 ай бұрын
There's a similar one at the start of the SF horror flick "The Cube", where we hear the tell-talse _schiiinnnggg_ sound of a sharp object, and then a character literally falls into pieces, having been diced into cubes by something akin to the nanofiber mesh we (don't really) see here. Oh, and Hyperion Cantos also mentions nanofiber tripwires as a particularly gruesome type of area denial weapon. _And_ the Harlequin's Kiss is a particularly gruesome Eldar weapon in the Warhammer 40K 'verse, where it fires a coil of nanofilament at its target which will then unfold _inside_ of the target, slicing them to bits from the inside out.
@CharlesSmith-io9fp15 күн бұрын
I remember that scene from "The Cube" Several other movies have taken a riff from that.
@NRV07 ай бұрын
I feel for those children. They didn't know their parents turned traitor and put them up against the whole of humanity. Sad that this had to happen.
@RickyRozayyy5 ай бұрын
You sound like a zionist
@dilireus7 ай бұрын
That was the most horrifying scene I've ever seen. I wish I could unsee it now.
@simoling7 ай бұрын
I thought I was the only one scared sh*tless after watching 3-body problem because it feels like we are already in an image sophon controlled world.
@FigmentForever7 ай бұрын
As someone who has read the book series (included the “prequel” Ball Lightning, and the fan-fiction Redemption of Time (which is mild canon), I have never been so happy to see such a faithful adaption of the series (as season 1 incorporates parts of all 3 to keep it more linear & setup future events). This was perfectly executed & so happy to see my imagination of the scene captured so brilliantly. The Ten-Cent series was great but only really hits well if you know the books inside & out. I just can’t wait to see what they do with Book 2/3 & the first half of Redemption of Time as I think they will skip the romantic bits later in the novel.
@joeshmoe81347 ай бұрын
Wasn’t this scene in the book set with a skeleton crew and was performed quickly so the cult couldn’t delete the files? Doesn’t seem to faithful to the book to me.
@MrChilidog97 ай бұрын
Since have not read the books, you bring up a interesting point. Was the scene pumped up?!, from the book. Either way it is cringe worthy.
@AUniqueName7 ай бұрын
@@MrChilidog9Yeah I heard it was jacked up for the show to make it more dramatic and morally heavy. I have to say I think it was a great choice
@FigmentForever7 ай бұрын
@@AUniqueName I feel the same way. Made it feel more authentic vs. militaristic
@tenjenk6 ай бұрын
@@MrChilidog9 if you use words in the wrong context just as a catch all for "i dun like it" they lose meaning and make you look foolish. Nothing about this is cringe worthy. What they did with the scene is one of those few moments where visual media elevated a scene from its written source material.
@dankorn7 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video. I'm through episode 6, and it's hard to find anything that discusses a single episode without spoiling the whole thing. I wish these shows were not released a whole season at once, to allow episode breakdowns like you do with other shows.
@jbear34784 ай бұрын
Aliens make the universe 2D
@mikhaelis7 ай бұрын
I love how the inventor willingly created the weapon knowing itnwould be used on innocent unarmed people, then tried to blame it all on the guy who recruited her as his and only his fault.
@bloodaonadeline83467 ай бұрын
that is not why she created the nano fibers. I don’t know where you got that idea.
@mikhaelis7 ай бұрын
@@bloodaonadeline8346 Nope, but it's how she used them.
@RichardStrong867 ай бұрын
If you watch she chooses to believe what was said to her that it could very well only have a skeleton crew on the ship. The higher up would have 100% known there were innocent people on there including children, but he was known to manipulate people into getting them to do what he wants. So he said what he did so she finished the job. "Nope, but it's how she used them." Arguably once she oversaw the creation of them it was out of her hands anyway.
@CG-MP7 ай бұрын
it makes it weird how in the end she publishes her work so anyone can use it. Anyone? When you've just seen what the technology is capable of?
@tenjenk6 ай бұрын
@@CG-MP because vast good can come of it and if its used as a terrible weapon, you need to make sure everyone has it so no one will dare use it on a mass scale or that only one faction will have it to gain power over all.
@peoplez1297 ай бұрын
It's semi accurate, because the weight would certainly keep the ship together after such a clean cut, but I'm not sure if it would actually result in the ship being cut, because it would just rapidly cold weld/bond back together due to the cut being soo clean and down to the atomic level, it would be like it was never cut at all. Only things that could immediately fall apart would be affected, which would still be pretty useful though.
@quench897 ай бұрын
Love that you are using Quinn’s channel intro on this video. He almost exclusively uses it on his 3 body problem videos ❤
@GenericInternetter6 ай бұрын
The Dark Forest theory is very easy to counter, and I think this counter-argument could answer the Fermi paradox. 1. A species sufficiently advanced enough to travel through space are almost certainly aware of the Dark Forest theory and their version of the Fermi paradox. 2. A species that announces their presence must be either peacefully naive or genuinely peaceful, considering the "Dark Forest" risk of exposing themselves. 3. A species that purposefully hides their presence is far more likely to have hostile intentions, or at least hostile tendencies. Even a defensive posture could lead to war. 4. Any two species that meet peacefully will almost certainly over time cultivate a strong friendship and ally to protect each other out of mutual benefit. 5. A hostile species that threatens an alliance of two or more species is putting itself at massive risk and disadvantage, 1v2 or worse. 6. Logically it is in the best interest of every species to quickly announce itself and ally with other species to gain the various strategic advantages offered. 7. Given that life is rare, it is highly unlikely that life would develop independently on two different planets in the same solar system at the same time. 8. Therefore it would be de-facto understood that each intelligent species owns it's solar system, even if it hasn't yet ventured away from it's home planet. 9. Any extraterrestrial presence in another species' solar system would almost certainly be interpreted as a threat to the native species. This would put the visitors in terrible standing with the local native species and with the wider community of species. 10. Logically, the first interstellar venture of any space-faring species would be to their nearest neighbouring star. 11. Therefore, if there is life elsewhere in our galaxy and if they are able to reach us, they are probably waiting for us with peaceful intentions near Promixa Centauri. If they were hostile, they would have invaded us by now.
@MarsStarcruiser6 ай бұрын
The biggest problem with the Dark Forest is actually hyper abundance of resources in the universe comparatively to the scale chances for life to occur. It may appear small to non-space dwelling races but as we scale up the Kardishev ladder and discern methodologies for taping into greater forms of energy … There could be hundreds of intelligent races in the galaxy and even in our cluster but we still got 59,722 stars visible from telescope within 100 light years. Thats a lot of future Dyson swarms, lots of mechanized custom worlds and hundreds of millions of years just to tap get through all of that, and thats just in our neighborhood. Through genetic exchanges and intermixing, we could more easily become the combined race of all intelligent races around us, than truly get through all those stars, so actual ware-fare for territory between species would kind of become meaningless
@origami834 ай бұрын
I really dont like the dark fiorest theory, it basically means everyone is an ahole willing to commit genocide just because someone else might do it to them. Also the weapon used in the end of this bookseries is absolutely ridiculous since it will eventually destroy the whole galaxy. With that kind of tech destroying just a planet should have been very easy and also eliminate the threat.
@1KingKarim6 ай бұрын
The fact that they made a malevolent shrine/kitchen is insane 😧
@HRLastro7 ай бұрын
Even tho I knew what was going to happen, it still gave me goosebumps, it was such a brutal scene.
@danieljabonski47057 ай бұрын
Slicing Judgement Day and Will's Goodbye were most memorable scenes but for different reasons... I'm so hyped for more! Greetings.
@DavidMacDowellBlue7 ай бұрын
06:19 We did not "wipe out" the Neaderthals, or at least we have no reason to believe we did. The fact it seems most human beings today have some Neaderthal DNA is evidence to the contrary. On the other hand Europeans did most certainly wipe out the Tasmanians and the Taino among others. Okay I'm nitpicking. 06:55 An interesting idea, but with a lot of problems. For one thing it presumes entire species reach such decisions once and irrevocably, that no two or more species might make a different decision and have it work, that growth and expansion is in fact something which all civilizations will ultimately view as an absolute value (there have even been human civilizations, quite major ones, that did not see life that way at all), that the natural state of all life is paranoia, that all cultures ultimately plan for survival on a cosmic scale (i.e. millions if not billions of years at the least), etc. It makes for a great story--obviously--but it doesn't make a lot of sense.
@mandasity7 ай бұрын
This video doesn't fully explain dark forest theory or the book-specific details of it because your points are covered by them both. You're absolutely right about us (or anyone) being able to predict the values and actions of countless other civilizations when we don't even know what forms other beings might even take seeing as how we have literally only 1 single point of reference. Any scientist would agree with you that 1 data point is laughable when it comes to making predictions. Without going into a long winded rant (which I'd love to do), it basically comes down to too many factors and variables working against your civilization to be able to afford the risk of doing anything other than both hiding, and shooting first. You could be friendly, your next-door neighbor can be friendly, and you guys might even make a friendship/alliance possible. But will the third civilization or the fourth be as willing? The book had this one great quote wish I could remember it but it's like.. if we have billions of habitable planets (just the ones we think are habitable, could be more) in just our galaxy, it's possible that a million civilizations reach intelligence and could be a possible threat. If you send out a galactic "hello" and only 10% of the civilizations choose to care at all, and only 10% of those care to investigate further, well of the 10,000 that discover you then surely 1 of them will attack just to eliminate potential risk. There are other connected variables on offer for you to consider like the chain of suspicion and a technological explosion all coupled with the sheer vastness of space and the limitations of technology and the speed of light but the theory basically says that 'most' and not all would come to this conclusion. But I definitely agree with your point about humanity's narcissism just making wild assumptions about countless possible forms of life as if we know everything.. all while have zero information to go on. I honestly believe if you dig deeper then you would give the theory a bit more validity, even though it is just a theory, but there I go assuming things after just saying how dumb that is! Anyways, hope you enjoy the story :)
@OneYulaw7 ай бұрын
Bestiality has been a thing for a very very long time. More than 99% of species that has ever existed on Earth are now extinct. That goes for Neanderthals, Denisovans and all other archaic hominids.
@micahstrava45036 ай бұрын
The nanowire scene was done in John Brunner's near Future book Stand On Zanzibar. A military hovercraft is landing and goes through a molecular strand (Brunner's word for it). Most people survive as quadriplegics, one soldier turning his head at that exact moment is decapitated. Just as horrifying a scene.
@trol684197 ай бұрын
I know I'm fucked up for saying this but I love how they added kids to that scene, pretty sure that wasn't in the books (if so, I forgot probably due to trauma haha). It really added an additional layer of industrial strength OOF to that scene. Also, my good sir you have spoiled me with Theory Time and now I'm expecting it every video. How dare you, sir.
@FigmentForever7 ай бұрын
I’m with ya. The kids would’ve just grown up to be Santi cultists as well. Nothing of value was lost.
@sigurdkaputnik70227 ай бұрын
the cultists put their own children in harm's way. In a way you could even say the cultists used their own kids as human shields.
@tjw24697 ай бұрын
@@FigmentForever They are the underage members of Hamas.
@espressomatic7 ай бұрын
It makes it more realistic. Just look at what's going on now around the world, when most of the people dying in so-called "war" are women and children along with other non-combatants.
@mr.b44447 ай бұрын
As much as I hate kids being harmed in any way, the scene adds realism. We all know what happens to them and that's enough. You ever watch Jurassic Park and all the sequels and notice that the dinos never eat kids?
@mortagon14516 ай бұрын
The scene was so incredibly over the top and ridicilous that it took away any terror the scene was suppossed to impose. When they try to come up with a way to take out the ship they dismiss missiles because they're to destructive and boarding with special forces because it will be a bloodbath so let's try to tear the ship to ribbons including any people aboard with a product that had never been tested on that scale? Also make sure to bring aboard the inventor of said product so that she could witness the horrific aftermath. Makes perfect sense...
@EastSheriff5 ай бұрын
They didn’t use missiles because that would blow the whole thing up whereas they had an idea that the drive would probably be small hence cutting it up with nano fibre which were a few metres apart had more chance of succeeding
@erikfinkel27177 ай бұрын
Totally thought the Resident Evil laser scene was from Cube
@GenMVeers7 ай бұрын
*_Cube_* (1997) is _so_ much better than *_Resident Evil_* (2002). Paul W. S. Anderson's version of slicing humans comes off as a braindead version of the original. WHY WOULD THE COMPUTER WASTE TIME AND ENERGY TO USE SINGLE BEAMS AT FIRST, WHEN IT _CLEARLY_ CAN USE A GRID??? *FFS.* 🤦♂
@abuashsamah48437 ай бұрын
Just a theory , a film theory The Santi's are actually far inferior to us but theyre lying about how powerful they are , essentially a bluff or lying, which they claimed is something they dont understand
@saiflix16 ай бұрын
I’m bipolar on this one, if it’s a bluff makes sense as humanity will waste a lot of resources to their space army that they disregard Earth’s well being and succumb to climate change and starvation by the time they arrive so no fighting is required, but the flaw of this theory is the sophon computers they have and how they are advanced enough to control your senses
@tragictwo10296 ай бұрын
Search about the droplet and how it destroyed the entire human space fleet
@Lahk17 ай бұрын
Totally skipped the breakthrough that they made with the uncuttable poles that they had on each bank. Pretty strong stuff to withstand the same force that was cutting the ship apart.
@shawapratim7 ай бұрын
I was hoping someone would bring up Newton’s third law.
@Escape.Velocity7 ай бұрын
They also left out Ye Wenjie literally killing her husband and the Red Coast Base commander which, to me, is egregious. That’s an essential part of her character development.
@Katarina-wr2hi7 ай бұрын
@@Escape.Velocity why and how did she killed them? what happened?
@Escape.Velocity7 ай бұрын
@@Katarina-wr2hi In the books Ye Wenjie never had a child with Mike Evans. Instead, she married and had a child with one of the guards from Red Coast Base. If I remember correctly what happened was, she bounced the signal off the sun without permission and the base commander found out along with her husband. I cant remember if they were going to discipline her or make her leave the base or what exactly was going to happen, but afterwards Ye Wenjie, the base commander, and her husband were walking around Red Coast Base, which is on a mountain, and the base commander & her husband were climbing down a rope on the edge of the cliff and she basically cut it and they both fell to their death.
@shewhoknows.7927 ай бұрын
Netflix learn from Sense8! Don’t take me to this place and leave me here. Season 2 and beyond is a must!
@chetanveersidhu7537 ай бұрын
Unfortunately the show's viewership and ratings are not what Netflix usually expects ... Season 2 seems unlikely
@shewhoknows.7927 ай бұрын
@@chetanveersidhu753 wait what? Isn’t it the 2nd most popular now? I’ve haven’t been this excited about any cinematic feature since Sense8 and Lucy before that. Not even GOT had me this lit.
@-Tekuo-7 ай бұрын
Got a feeling that this will get the Netflix treatment.
@Dustballguy7 ай бұрын
I just finished the season yesterday. Good stuff
@yankeesrule5877 ай бұрын
ME TOO
@Dustballguy7 ай бұрын
@Ch.at-Me-On-TheHeavyspoilers I always get the fake guys ask me where I live so I can pay a hundred bucks for a PlayStation 5
@nehukybis2 ай бұрын
The science fiction stories of Larry Niven played with ultra-strong monofilaments a lot back in the 70's and 80's. (The trick isn't making the filaments thin, it's making them strong enough that they won't just snap the first time they bump into something). So, although I had completely forgotten the scene where they foreshadowed them earlier in the season, I immediately grasped that's what they were using. A lot of the horror came from the foley, which was brilliant. The attention to detail, the subtext, and the foreshadowing were amazing. Auggie's guilt, and Raj's distrust. Auggie trying, and failing to at least save the harbor pilot, who was, like the children entirely innocent. The single child's shoe that Auggie found in the wreckage. And there was something especially cold blooded about how Wade had planned for almost any contingency. Of course the wreckage would catch on fire, so Wade had firefighting helicopters standing by. It was how efficient the whole operation was.
@docdetroit997 ай бұрын
Loved the Netflix interpretation of the books so far. I really hope we get the complete series. I'm watching the Chinese version of the books on Prime and I really like their interpretation as well. I will say this, the Chinese version unfolds more like a murder mystery. Also, as a physicist, the Netflix version paints physicist in a far cooler light than most are😊!
@Escape.Velocity7 ай бұрын
What did you think about Mike Evans’ faster-than-light communication with aliens light years away via an old radio haha
@docdetroit997 ай бұрын
@@Escape.Velocity , It's not as crazy as it initially sounds. It's based on quantum entanglement (what Einstein called spooky action at a distance). It's also how the aliens can instantly react to things happening on earth with their subatomic particle size computer. The aliens entangled four particles, sending two to earth and keeping two. Once entangled, whatever happens to one particle instantaneously effects the other entangled particles, even at great distances.
@docdetroit997 ай бұрын
@@Escape.Velocity , It's not as crazy as it initially sounds. It's based on quantum entanglement (what Einstein called spooky action at a distance). It's also how the aliens can instantly react to things happening on earth with their subatomic particle size computer. The aliens entangled four particles, sending two to earth and keeping two. Once entangled, whatever happens to one particle instantaneously effects the other entangled particles, even at great distances.
@TheDeadlyefx6 ай бұрын
@@Escape.Velocitywere you actually paying any attention? It’s clearly explained how they are able to communicate instantaneously.
@peterbuckley13105 ай бұрын
I won't let my hate for Auggie keep me from enjoying this breakdown.
@mohann20077 ай бұрын
You conflated the Fermi paradox with the dark forest hypothesis on the script, mate.
@mattgilbert73477 ай бұрын
The show kinda does that. It's like they didn't read the books closely. I don't buy the Dark Forest thesis but you're right - it's not the Fermi Paradox itself. It's an answer to the FP. A possible answer. A wrong one imo
@mohann20077 ай бұрын
@@mattgilbert7347 Yup. :)
@Oyi_147 ай бұрын
@@mattgilbert7347 And what would you consider a right answer? just genuinely curious
@wifegrant7 ай бұрын
@@Oyi_14 Any alien, capable of traveling at near light speeds, would be able to wipe us out by flinging a satellite at us. If they are staying quiet out of fear...then why not just obliterate us with a hyper speed hubcap?
@mattgilbert73477 ай бұрын
@@Oyi_14 i don't believe we have one right answer, not yet,. only more or less likely ones. I find the premise at the core of The Dark Forest thesis to be dubious, adolescent, edgy nihilism. There's a real projection by the author of the worst of humanity onto all possible advanced *alien* civilizations. It strikes me as impoverished and stunted. As I said, it's my opinion that he's probably wrong. I suspect it's so unlikely as to be wrong. However, it *could* be right. But I doubt it.
@sek50507 ай бұрын
The Fermi paradox doesn’t say we have to live in the dark like you said; the dark forest hypothesis says that. 7:50
@ConnerKent087 ай бұрын
Weapon of mass destruction. My jaw was on the floor when this scene happened.
@dranksinatra24937 ай бұрын
Aliens: “We come in peace.” Humans: “We come in pieces.” … … …I’ll see myself out.
@Philip-07 ай бұрын
7:52 Six minutes before the attack, we're shown details of the zither's construction. The nanofibers appeared to be strung across rollers attached to motor housings connected to electrical services. To me, it seemed that the fibers were set up to move rapidly between the beams like bandsaw blades, thereby sounding like God's fingernails on a chalkboard.
@johnberwyn234 ай бұрын
This scene was so epic it actually gave me chills. I was so pleased they had the nerve to create it.
@daejuanbass35317 ай бұрын
Scene had my whole body hurting
@Mr-DNA_6 ай бұрын
That's probably one of the most disturbing and horrifying scene in the history of TV. I truly wish I could unsee it.
@The-Wolf-with-no-name7 ай бұрын
As much Auggie hates what Wade and Raj did she is worse then them because she could have done something to sabotage this horrific plan. Personally i think deep down she was curious to see if the technology would work on a large scale. Her hatred for Wade and Raj is less about them but more about herself.
@The_Infamous_Boogyman7 ай бұрын
The scene was just so long and there was so much drawn out destruction of so many sets and props, it was fkng awesome!
@ezekielbarrera44477 ай бұрын
In the books, there is not this many people on the ship and the "auggie" character has no idea how many people were killed. There is only one or two people on the deck that they see pass the nanofibers
@RDHardy797 ай бұрын
I watched this entire scene with my mouth agape. 😮 I have never seen anything so horrifying. I was completely traumatized by that shit for at least a few hours.
@bleeb13477 ай бұрын
As an engineer, I was honestly more focused on “how did they anchor all the nano fibers to stay taut while they literally ripped through a variety of hardened materials?” I can wrap my head around a super-material that can slice through anything, but in order for that to happen they would have to anchor the fibers to the earth with similarly ultra-strong materials, and it appeared to me that there was just dirt and rock on either side. Dirt and rock should give way when the momentum and inertia of such a heavy and fast ship is pushing against so many of them. Think about it for a second….if the fibers didn’t give out and stayed taut when tearing into the ship and slicing it, you’d expect the that extreme kinetic energy to be transferred to the anchors holding the fibers, and then to the dirt and rock surrounding the anchors. Right?
@leonardocerqueiradias61687 ай бұрын
Hmmm... I'll answer you, but I'm not presenting the following as a fact. I'm actually pretty intrigued by the physics here, I'm just putting forward a thought. Let's say you take a very blunt knife and try to cut a carrot. It's going to be hard and you'll have to do a lot of force, so you'll feel that force back into your arm. But if you try to cut the same carrot with a very sharp knife, you'll need much less force and you won't feel as much pressure back into your arm. So, assuming the fibers have pretty much infinite sharpness, the force needed to cut any hardened material is almost zero, so the force being sent back to the pillars is equally small. It's basically just the force of a ship slowing moving forward, and the ground can take it just fine. Maybe? Like I said... I'm opening a discussion here. I'm not sure at all. Edit: A example came to mind. If you throw an apple at a katana versus throwing an apple against a baseball bat. The bat is probably gonna recoil a bit. But if the katana cut the apple clean, it may saty still. Right? Maybe? Again, I'm not sure. Edit2: Now I can't stop thinking about it lol. But the kinetic energy actually WASN'T transfered at all, since the ship continue to move at the exact same speed. I think now I figured it out lol.
@MrAlexnastase977 ай бұрын
Brilliant point of view, hadn't though of it that way. Like, how does the fiber not cut through those tall metal structures it's anchored to? Eh, we're not meant to think it this far, after a certain point it's simply "Poetic license", cinema-wise :D
@bleeb13477 ай бұрын
Normally I’d agree with you, but we’re dealing with earthly physics here. I understand what you’re saying to an extent, for example heat up a knife and drop it on a stick of butter and it will slice through it with zero force. However, we’re not dealing with any additional energy involved such as heating the butter knife. You’ll see in the scene that ship begins to slow down to an extent and also begins to veer off course, not because the wheel is no longer turning and the captain is dead, but because the threads absorbed some of the energy from the ship in the form of its inertia and momentum. Take the sharpest knife in the world and a stick of butter. Have a friend hold the knife and press that stick of butter against the knife to cut the stick of butter. You will see energy transferred to your friend’s arm that is holding the knife, causing it to move. So even in the absolute best case scenario, a minuscule fraction of that ships inertia energy is transferred to the pillars, bases or anchors holding the threads, and the natural materials surrounding the anchors would inevitably give enough to at least reduce the “tautness” of the threads/fibers. The only way I can sensibly wrap my head around the physics is if the nano fibers were also super heated as I describe in the hot knife through butter scenario. The boat slowed and it’s course altered so that energy had to go somewhere. I love physics.
@rxh2417 ай бұрын
Technically the tension in the fiber is a function of friction between fiber and steel. The friction can be pretty small given the nature of the material.
@leonardocerqueiradias61687 ай бұрын
@@bleeb1347 Not sure if I agree. The ship continues to move at the same speed. No energy is lost at all. The guy even thinks it didn't work at first, because the ship just continue to move as if nothing happened. It eventually loses speed because the engines go down and it turns because it loses its physical structure. It wouldn't work in real life because the fibers can't really exist, but thought the parameters the show sets, I don't think the pillars matter at all.
@lotstodo4 ай бұрын
That was the most impossible to escape violence I've ever seen. You can't run or negotiate or even see it coming.
@kenfrmcape23557 ай бұрын
Does every character smoke like a chimney in the books, too? These are supposed to be the smartest people in the world. So all of theme decide to do something totally unhealthy that will kill them sooner.
@chrisb75287 ай бұрын
Their alcoholism would kill them just the same. You would be surprised how many intellectuals smoke, drink or vape.
@kenfrmcape23557 ай бұрын
@Ch.at-Me-Via-TheHeavyspoilers. I'll be there
@pokemonfanmario76947 ай бұрын
Addiction is a bitch
@albertbennett32113 ай бұрын
Landmines are bad enough, walking thru a mesh of nanofibre is even more terrifying.
@paulklee57907 ай бұрын
Not seen this to be honest but it looks like another idea originally put out there by the great Larry Niven and his concept of Sinclair Monofilament… a material first introduced in ‘Ring World’ as a way of holding elements of the megastructure in place in orbit around its central star, also highly dangers too when things (inevertabley) go wrong… On a side note he also briefly mentions that sword duelling re-emerges as a thing using swords made of monofilament inside a stasis field… an image that seems Star Wars may well have picked up on perhaps?
@adamtsiolas6 ай бұрын
Chinese version: Who is on the ship? A criminal's, the worst of the worst. American version: Who is on the ship? A bunch of families with many, many small children. 😆😅🤣😂
@myoldmateАй бұрын
Yeah, I've seen the Chinese version, too. As good if not better imo.
@ICU13377 ай бұрын
Wait a second... You blame them for the GoT's stuff? I feel like people always blame the sacrificial scapegoat when the actual villain is standing right next to them... I'd like to think that at the end, Evans knew that it was a human led attack but that it was the San-Ti that allowed it to happen and so he repented. While he knew the San-Ti were powerful, there was no evidence that they could interact with our world in that kind of a meaningful way.
@MisterKen817 ай бұрын
Didn’t they admit that they didn’t know what they were doing with regards to season 8? Like with the first 7 seasons there were existing books to draw from, their problem is that they are not actual storytellers as in, they cannot craft a story and even with 7 seasons of story building they fell short with how they wrote the end.
@ICU13377 ай бұрын
@@MisterKen81 and thats all fair and fine! But maybe someone shouldve finished writing the materials... And maybe someone else shouldnt have gotten corporate greed and moved so quickly on to ideas about "spin-offs". My point is, I just feel like everyone likes to place the full bag of 💩 on D&D when that bag needs to be spread around a bit more.
@FigmentForever7 ай бұрын
They rushed to end the show so they could get to work on projects for Netflix, as well as a Star Wars Project for Disney that they were later dropped from. So yes, they deserve the blame 100%.
@Alex-ug9wx7 ай бұрын
D&D absolutely ruined GoT. The entire ending was horrific. The blatant character assassinations of Cersei, Jaime, Tyrion, Varys, Little Finger, Arya, Sansa, Jon, and WORST OF ALL, DAENERYS, completely gutted the show. I cannot go back and rewatch the show knowing how it ended. It’s truly that bad.
@ICU13377 ай бұрын
@@FigmentForever this comment right here is a prime example of placing all the blame on them and none on HBO or Martin. Prime example. I never once said that D&D didnt own any blame but placing it all squarely at their feet is some next level mob mentality thinking.
@Allegheny5007 ай бұрын
The answer to the Fermi Paradox is simple, the universe is still young and non of the civilizations out there can reach us. Our own broadcasts are less than 100 light years out and probably degraded into random static. We also might be the first in this galaxy.
@ronslibraryideas32857 ай бұрын
So nobody thought to jump off the ship? lol
@dunjiezheng72417 ай бұрын
Lol they thought it was their Lord
@akinsamuel20077 ай бұрын
They didn't have time. The deck washer was the only one able to get off and was cut down before he knew what was happening. It would have taken 3 minutes for the nanofibres to traverse through the ship. With no cues of how or what they were reacting too. It would have been a highly effective way of catching everyone on the ship off guard.
@wshyangify7 ай бұрын
When the going gets tough everyone around me starts falling apart
@OnlineStarRR7 ай бұрын
Stuck at episode 5, there is just no trill, no excitement, the plot offers "no keep watching value" and they people who we follow are brutally broring to watch. Shame because I did like GoT (1-5) and think the other new netflix show: One day, was amazing,
@jholla47517 ай бұрын
I keep falling asleep trying to watch the ends of episodes. I’m confident I’ve seen 80% of the show but have no desire to sit thru it again to catch what I missed.
@claudiamanta19436 ай бұрын
Thanks. This is a good video. That scene managed to shock me due to its gratuitous cruelty. But it makes perfect sense because it is not supposed to foreshadow what the aliens would do. It is an illustration of what humans do to each other (all a hostile alien civilisation would need to do is leave humankind to its own devices to wipe itself out). And, as you so nicely alluded to, if someone is very good at maths or physics or whatever else and are creative by nature, they should think before creating something. That’s the real mark of intelligence and character (man, I’m so dumb to talk about ‘character’, that’s so not cool anymore).
@guynamedbob83747 ай бұрын
Watched this with my parents, they fell asleep on the couch before and during the slicing event. They asked me how the episode was, and I just looked at them like 😳
@heavyspoilers7 ай бұрын
Looooooool
@kenmcelroy50104 ай бұрын
I knew I wasn't the only one that flashed back on the laser room from the first "Resident Evil" movie.
@mikanikolic19767 ай бұрын
That scene with the ship reminded me of the movie Ghost ship when the cable cut everything on deck
@HFIAPY4 ай бұрын
I saw the scene from resident evil and was terrified already 💀
@SidlyBoDidly2226 ай бұрын
I'm 60. I love movies. I fought in a war. This is right up there of the most terrifying thing I've ever seen.
@JamesLawner7 ай бұрын
The most terrifying sequence ever. About as terrifying as Outbreak Day in The Last of Us ep1 😭😭😭
@ScytheNoire7 ай бұрын
While the scene was impactful, I didn't think it made sense in the story. They said they didn't want to use standard weapons because it would lead to too much damage and possible destruction of any alien technology. However, dicing the ship could have also destroyed the technology, they had no way of knowing it wouldn't. So it goes against the reason they didn't want to do it. I thought they were only going to cut off the bottom of the ship and leave it sinking, forcing everyone to evacuate, thus making them vulnerable and the ship empty to search.
@HRLastro7 ай бұрын
Even if the hard drive was sliced in half because the Nanofiber cuts were so fine that they would've been able to retrieve the data. That was the plan all along but it's not explained in the show. Nanofibers were the fastest way to neutralize the whole ship without them knowing.
@SSVegeta9377 ай бұрын
That's EXACTLY what I said to my friend as we watched. Sure, the nanofibers are fine, and as stated, allows the ability to piece something back together. But what about all the wanton destruction caused by the ship collapsing in on itself? I mean, the fact they even found the dude's body in all that debris without it being absolutely crushed and demolished is beyond me. I'm sorry, but that whole scene took me out of the show as far as logic goes. There's absolutely no way they could know whatever they were looking for wouldn't be destroyed in all the destruction and chaos.
@HRLastro7 ай бұрын
@@SSVegeta937 Yeah I know the plan was a blind bargain but that was the best possible solution they had at the time. The plan had a maximum chance to get the hard drive intact even after slicing it in half. The judgement day was going to be in the open water again after that. They may not get the chance again.
@ganggang37887 ай бұрын
@@SSVegeta937Finding the body in all that wreckage isn’t that far a stretch. They found plenty of bodies in one piece when the World Trade towers fell. If anything humans creating that crazy, invisible nanofibers is a big WTF 😂
@SSVegeta9377 ай бұрын
@@ganggang3788 For sure not impossible, as you pointed out. I agree about the nanofibers. If the show was set in the future or something, it would have been a little easier to digest the technology. Now you have me sad thinking about the people buried under the rubble in a real world event...😢😅 I was in tenth grade in high school when that happened. Something I'll never forget. So harrowing.
@slippytrippy81225 ай бұрын
Bruh why was there children on the boat? Those were ADVENTISTS, they hate humanity, why would they have kids? Also yea, wasnt in the books. Netflix was going for a cheap shock.
@coolvideos88645 ай бұрын
D & D I totally forgive you for ruining GOT now lol
@icreateworlds7 ай бұрын
Unexpected and in these times, a brave choice to go with it from Netflix just because it enhanced the storytelling. This series started really well with the china sequence which now infuriates the party over there and they never backed down from that thrilling difficult to watch initial minutes. I haven´t read the novels but I´m going to. I read most of everything else from the author and its awesome work. He really deserves the comparison to Arthur C Clarke for sure. I´m also going to watch the original series, which is complete and has 30 episodes. The Netflix one is mostly a remake or a new addaptation of the novel for western audiences.
@drunkenhowler227 ай бұрын
This is merely a drop in an ocean of what's coming in future seasons I assure you. You're in for a good time!
@laikapupkino17673 ай бұрын
It's only a few months later but I couldn't remember what this disturbing scene was from. I searched "monomolecular carbon filaments destroy ship" and here I am. I first heard of them in Arthur C. Clarke's THE FOUNTAINS OF PARADISE (1979). They're what the novel's space elevator is made of; a peaceful application of this tech with which payloads can be pulled slowly up into orbit with nothing more powerful, dangerous or expensive than an electric motor. In a demonstration of the "hyperfilament"'s strength an investor is shown a steel ring that seems to be floating in the air. The scientist tells him to pull on it, and he can't get it to budge past a certain point. It's like some amazing magic trick. He observes that the ring is acting as if it's tethered by an invisible cord, but when he reaches toward where the cord should be the scientist slaps his hand away, warning him, "Don't do that, it'll cut your hand clean off!!" But it never occurred to me what a fiendish weapon these invisible wires would make until 3 BODY PROBLEM. A horrifying scene partly because so many children were considered acceptable casualties by the ones wielding this new weapon, which has come pretty close to being reality since I read that book.
@kevinac43977 ай бұрын
So it chops helicopters and cruise ships, but travels through hallways nicely
@RichardStrong867 ай бұрын
I'm not sure what you're saying here. There are elements that would collapse immediately because they're not supported by anything else (like the weight of the layers above them). Once it had cut through enough the bulk of the ship everything would start to come apart.
@tenjenk6 ай бұрын
well yeah. One is just complex objects and the other is supporting infrastructure of an entire multi ton ship. we see it collapse later from the nose onwards once theres nothing
@jetind6 ай бұрын
I did not understand how this approach was any better than a missile strike. They were apparently afraid of hitting the harddrive. So what would prevent the nanofibers of cutting the harddrive in two? Or for it to get utterly crushed and burned by debris? Seemed a bit stupid (but a spectacle, nonetheless).
@racoming10357 ай бұрын
Am I the only one that thought this scene was stupid? They're looking for intel by destroying the evidence and killing everyone they could interrogate.
@thursdaysproduction32906 ай бұрын
I enjoyed it… at the end of the day it’s just entertainment n other reviewers broke down that scene as the probability of destroying the devise was a low enough risk they were willing to take.
@san-t77006 ай бұрын
In the book it’s better explained. They wanted to get rid of the people and just get the logs. The fibers cut everything so perfectly that it could be restored (apart from the people)
@eloquentsarcasm7 ай бұрын
The books are more about the science as opposed to the characters, this version adds much more character building as being a visual medium TV needs that extra layer to hook people. As many have stated, if you've not read the books, you ain't seen nothing yet! The biggest thing I took away from the scene is the sheer ruthlessness that will be required for humanity to survive, there is no room for mercy or hesitation, survival is everything, just like the aliens state.
@cheekster7777 ай бұрын
Thank you Paul.
@teruphoto6 ай бұрын
There are so many ways the hard drive could have been destroyed. Sure, the book talks about the slices being so fine that the HD could be put back together (which is BS), but what if: The ship sinks The HD is crushed by falling debris The HD is burned in the resulting fire The HD is sliced and the pieces get displaced everywhere Great scene, awful logic.
@elleyesssss7 ай бұрын
Absolutely terrifying.
@ndystevens40517 ай бұрын
It was incredible, one of the most disturbing scenes in ANY film or TV.
@JezebelIsHongry7 ай бұрын
the fact that so many people call the books good makes me realize that nobody reads Great Sci Fi. no, the writing is horrific. bad. wooden read The Quantum Thief or the Culture Series
@cwt45607 ай бұрын
There's a lot of credible reviews about the book and the majority of them have good reviews. I think it's just your opinion.
@marklanier77097 ай бұрын
Cool scene, but not sure the plan was sound. They didn’t really know what they were looking for and that boat was a complete wreck afterward. Needle in a wrecked haystack. Plus, the item they were looking for could have just as easily fell into the water.