Why Tom Brady Is NOT The GOAT

Today we discuss reasons why Tom Brady is NOT the greatest NFL player of all time. Let me know where I was right or wrong in my arguments, and feel free to leave any suggestions down below in the comment section and follow my socials! Thank you all for the support!
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[@anthonyzentefis6150]

How does this affect lebrons legacy?

[@december8538]

He's arguably one of a few greatest quarterbacks. But I can't stand the mainstream narrative that he's the undisputed GOAT. Same with Michael Jordan.

[@angelophilippopoulos9678]

I agree with you. Lebron is right there and better defensvly rebounds assists. Three hall of famers on team RODMAN,PIPPEN ,KUKOC ... good centers Great shooters.Karem is the greatest player and winner championships UCLA three NCAA rings Bucks One . Lakers 5 rings..want to add 2 highschool championships 74 straight wins. GOAT!

[@codydyrda5408]

@@angelophilippopoulos9678Michael Jordan is the goat

[@bartsimpson7680]

@@codydyrda5408 no he is not. Statistically and unfortunately Jordan isn’t. Lebron played in 3 eras of the NBA, the skill of the nba has improved. Younger players learn new tricks and skills it’s true. Tom Brady and Michael Jordan are both golden Childs, and the media proclaims them as GOATs, and you sheep look at the rings and follow the leader. Real athletes know, sports take a TEAM to win and be successful.

[@drewerickson4556]

This is why Mitchell Trubisky is the greatest QB of all time

[@t-god2439]

I don’t know why people don’t want to acknowledge the facts Brady is not better than rogers, manning, or Patrick

[@willmorrey1030]

Aaron Rodgers>

[@benmorrey]

If you walk away from this video thinking Aaron Rodgers is the GOAT, idk what to tell you

[@ibrahimsamara8644]

Average Packers Fan

[@BillyBob-ti2fz]

You can’t be the goat with one Super Bowl

[@NinjaDog9123]

Karen Fraudgers

[@marckellough529]

Aaron Rodgers?? You got to be kidding!!

[@jr.jutebox0897]

Brady 🐐

[@benmorrey]

Definitely not the GOAT. He simply doesn’t have the individual accolades as other players at his own position in his own era.

[@NinjaDog9123]

@@benmorreyt’s not just about stats. You also gotta look at how clutch he was and consistent and longevity. He also has done better against the best defenses than other quarterbacks. Manning got slaughtered against the Seahawks defense while Brady beat them. You also gotta look at playoff wins as well where you are going against good teams while in the regular season you could have an easy schedule and stat pad against bums. Brady being able to win 2 Super Bowls and have 3 appearances in his 40s is also really impressive. He also proved that he was mostly the reason for the Patriots success and not Belichick since the Patriots struggled after Brady left while Brady won a Super Bowl with the Bucs. When Brady left Bill got exposed.

[@thecensoredmuscle563]

@@NinjaDog9123 his career consists of standing there with great protection and throwing mostly simple passes and checkdowns.

[@NinjaDog9123]

@@thecensoredmuscle563 So we should hate him for making the right reads because it looked easy? If it’s so easy, then explain how Mac and Cam couldn’t do the same thing.

[@claytonacuff2932]

​@NinjaDog9123 Would you expect cam or Mac Jones? To be In the goat conversation He is a great quarterback just not to goat and clutch plays are different under the situation getting in field goal range kicking a field goal is not that impressive as throwing a touchdown most of tom bradys come backs come on leg of there kicker

[@killasniper2565]

Great video do you have a link to all the comparisons you showed in the video?

[@davidmorrey4436]

Amazing breakdown! You brought up so many good points and backed it up with outstanding research. Way to follow the facts and not just listen to the talking heads on TV!

[@marckellough529]

So I guess his "outstanding research" is supposed to make us forget that Brady has 7 Superbowl rings. I DON'T THINK SO!!! KEEP DREAMING!!

[@Watsupyoutube]

Stats dont matter in playoffs. You play who you come up against. He beat them all .

[@alexlazo1496]

I’m sure Brady would have loved to have Davante dams, jordy Nelson, Marvin Harrison etc. but a bunch of short white guys and injury prone Gronk. Wow what a receiving core!! And he accomplished what he has with the much worse receivers than the other two had.

[@jesspayne5548]

Randy moss and one of the most dominant tight ends of all time along with Julian Edelman who IS good at football despite his stature

[@brettdavidson3866]

Alex Lazzo Brady Bunch defenders hate Logic and Facts 😂 when they can’t Use Lies and Chips to claim greatness of mr Brady

[@marckellough529]

​@@brettdavidson3866Let me give you the most important fact "7 SUPER BOWL RINGS"!!!!!!!

[@macgoldie7771]

Tom Brady could never be the 🐐 of a game dominated by Black MEN

[@pnut3844able]

Oh stop it lmao. He had some of the greatest slot receivers ever, one of the greatest TE ever, insane RBs and insane defenses. Just stop 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Marino is the TRUE GOAT.

[@WenbanMtn]

Also, you absolutely can quantify the value of a safety compared to a QB (in several ways). Sure, none of them are perfect, but they do represent the reality to a reasonable degree. First way is market value, simply what teams are willing to pay for certain players and positions is a reasonable indicator of their value. This probably isn't a good way to compare specific players but you can take league averages and essentially rank the value of positions. Another way to compare positions is in their respective correlations to winning or to side performance (QBs to offensive rating, Safeties to defensive rating). With that said, the QB is the most impactful position in football and thus they are paid accordingly. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think there is a good argument against that statement. That's also why QBs win MVPs and it's so damn hard for WR or RBs to do so. That essentially leaves the GOAT conversation to QBs because of their immense value and impact of the game. Of course, you can simply disagree with that but if that's the case then that's probably where the conversation ends.

[@Mudkip_lieker13]

I agree

[@saramorrey5870]

Well done, Ben!

[@pattiwyrobek6404]

I love this Ben !! Great fact checking and you brought up great points ! And I agree …. There is a GOAT for each position. You can’t compare because each position has a different set of skills.

[@joeolsen3553]

I have these arguments everyday on Facebook with less facts but same reasoning. Great Job I agree with you 100%. It's a team sport and Brady was on a great team.

[@WenbanMtn]

These are reasonable points but there are rebuttals for so many of them. You have to take into account the fact that Brady had very little continuity with his receivers. Yes, his TEAMS have been great but for the most part, the talent has often been on the defensive side especially for the first third of his career. So, then the argument becomes is it harder to win with a bad offense or bad defense for the sake of simplicity if we let them be equivalent then Brady wins because offensively, he had a very very very weak supporting cast and managed 3 championships. Peyton played with 7-time all-pro Marvin Harrison to start his career and prime Demarius Thomas in Denver. Brady has had great talent at receiver, but he had NO ONE for the first 6 YEARS as a starter (He was throwing to fucking Troy Brown, Deion Branch, Reche Caldwell, David Patten, etc.) and he was still able to win 3 Superbowls with those guys. Not only that he made All-pro 2nd team in 2005 throwing TDs to 12 different receivers, NONE of which caught for over 1000 yards. The years before 2007 is the only "blemish" on his career statistically and its in large part because he was throwing to literal randoms at the START of his career. While at other positions wins and playoff success is a poor indication of individual performance, the quarterback position is probably the most important and impactful position in all of sports with a high correlation of QB performance and wins so there is good reason to attribute wins to QBs (obviously defense is another massive variable and Brady has admittedly had the upper hand to his peers in that regard). Then the second he gets some serious talent on the team he starts breaking records in 2007. Add Randy Moss and Wes Welker and he throws for 4800 yards and 50 TD and wins MVP. I think you make some good points with the fact that Rodgers and Manning both have comparable stats but you're off base discounting the longevity of Brady's career. In hindsight if you were to inherit a team and could pick from rookie year which guy you want knowing their career stats are a lock, you would be so stupid to not pick Brady. 21 years of having a top-5 quarterback vs 16 years from Manning vs 15 and counting from Rodgers. Also, there is definitely nuance to some of those individual awards. First off Manning got 2 of his MVPs while Brady had NO receivers. Literally look up the receivers Brady had when Manning won and compare. Secondly, there are some funky years Brady should absolutely have gotten some All-Pro recognition and didn't due to poor luck. In 2011 he threw 5,235 yards, 37 touchdowns with 12 interceptions and DIDN'T make the AP team. 5,235 yards is 5th most ALL-TIME and what's even more ridiculous is that in 2011 when he did it, it was 2nd most ALL-TIME! Instead, he was displaced by Rodgers who won MVP throwing for 4643 and a ridiculous 46 TDs to 5 INTs, and Brees with the most yards ever (at the time) with 5,476 yards with 46 TDs and 14 INTs. Obviously, Rodgers and Brees were plenty deserving but any other season Brady has an all-time great season like that, and he surely gets MVP or at the VERY LEAST AP. That's piss poor luck if I've ever seen it. Now let's take a look at Mannings MVPs...two are all-time great seasons. The one with the Bronco's is absolutely GOAT'ed. But two of his MVP seasons are sooo weak and one that is mid at best. In 2008 (the year Brady goes down with an ACL tear) Manning wins MVP. That year he threw for 4002 yards, 27 TDs, and 12 INTs (HUHHH?! Talk about weak competition). 2009, 2011, 2012, 2014, 2015, 2018, 2020, 2021. What are those 8 years I listed you ask? Those are all NON-MVP seasons in which Brady threw for more yards, more touchdowns and LESS (or equal) interceptions than Mannings 2008 MVP season. Manning's first MVP was in 2003 in which he threw for 4269 yards, 29 TDs and 10 INTs. This one is more forgivable as it was certainly a different time but still weak and when Brady had no receivers. Take any of Brady's MVPs and Manning has not replicated those numbers, even Brady's weakest MVP which was when he threw for 3,900 yards but with a ridiculous 36-4 TD-INT ratio (on near career low pass attempts). And then in 2020 he throws 4,633 yards (3rd most in the league) and 40 TDs (2nd most in the league) and goes 11-5 with the Bucs his first year there and somehow doesn't make a pro-bowl?! Oh yeah and by the way he's 43 years old at that point and wins a Superbowl for good measure. And the next season he proceeds to throw the most yards he's ever thrown (5,316 yards) and second most TDs (43), leading the league in both categories, at age 44. The dude has won 7 Superbowl's out of the 10 he's played in 21 seasons. That means over the 21 seasons he played you could just bet Brady would be in the Superbowl and the probability is the same as flipping a coin. He went to 14 conference championships in that span (67%). There are only 3 TEAMS with more conference championship appearances than Brady and one of those is the Patriots. There absolutely is such a thing as a killer instinct and winning mentality and Brady has it more than anyone in history.

[@OutkastMAB]

Something I've thought for a while but never could articulate it 😆. You did an amazing job bro!

[@angelophilippopoulos9678]

He has played behind a great offensive line all his life. Tampa was loaded . One of the greatest . Elway carried teams on his back...... Put .Brady Colts or Packers.

[@daytns]

Awesome video, I was thinking the same things lately of how good his defenses have been!

[@WSNight-]

The reason why I don't believe Tom Brady is the goat is because not only did he cheat and The team cheat also got caught cheating so they're not even good at cheating, Joe Montana is my GOAT QB.

[@NinjaDog9123]

If you do your research the whole deflate gate scandal was debunked and it also had little to no impact on that game where the Colts got destroyed. The balls were also barely under inflated.

[@brettdavidson3866]

@@NinjaDog9123 yeah and what would happen to the credibility of the league without a cover up by the way which has been shot for decades for patriots cheating should I mention the tuck rule spy gate or various other things ? Joe Montana 4-0 Terry Bradshaw 4-0 Tom Brady 6-4 Last I checked Tommy boy was the 199th draft pick without a defense who could stop people he stinks look at the Bucs last season if you don’t believe facts 😂 Forget the colts you couldn’t beat the giants as a 14 Point Td Favorite and what’s your excuse for losing to the irrelevant nick foles for Brady that’s why I thought 😂

[@NinjaDog9123]

@@brettdavidson3866 Super Bowl losses are better than not having Super Bowl appearances. Therefore the argument that 4-0>6-4 is flawed. Also it’s 7-3. And are we not gonna talk about the Steelers taking steroids in the 70s and how Jerry Rice had sticky gloves which helped Montana? “Look at the Bucs last season.” Brady was 45 years old so this is a terrible argument. Against Nick Foles Brady had the best Super Bowl performance by any quarterback passing for over 500 yards. Last time I checked he doesn’t play defense and give up 41 points. Patriots have won 0 Super Bowls without Brady. When Brady left the Patriots dynasty ended.

[@rickjohnson5497]

Montana won 2 rings without Rice and beat him in 94. Also, the Stickum was with Young in the 90s. Also, Rice’s first 2 years he dropped a lot of passes and TD’s in the playoffs. He was great in 87 and then a no show in the 87 playoffs. Montana had prime rice for 3 years. 2 SB’s,3 nfc championship games

[@pnut3844able]

Well Montana said Marino is the goat, and he's 100000% correct.

[@WobblinGoblin1]

Well researched and factual presentation. You're wrong. Brady is the GOAT. Those that watched his career saw it with their own eyes.

[@Floridapanthers47]

Y’all can cry all you want but brady is the goat. He has more championships than any nfl team 🥱

[@rickjohnson5497]

I’ll take Joe Montana over Brady any day. Montana beat 3 teams in the top 10 defense in the 84 playoffs, something Brady hasn’t done. He beat the 84 giants 8th ranked,84 Bears 2nd(most sacks of all-time 84 Dolphins 7th ranked. Brady has faced a 20th + ranked defense 3x in the SB. 3x he didn’t even face a top 10 defense in the playoffs in his SB runs. Montana’s QBR average in the SB is higher than Brady’s best game in the SB. Also, you can’t pick a goat when they don’t play the same game under the same rules

[@marckellough529]

He also only went to 4 Super bowls and he was fragile and injury prone and Steve Young took his job

[@rickjohnson5497]

They brought Young in because Montana had back surgery and was told he won’t be able to play the game again. He came back and the league didn’t change the rules for him like they did for Tom Brady

[@marckellough529]

@@rickjohnson5497 Well that one of my points. Montana was fragile and injury prone. One of key attributes of all of the greatest players in every sport is durability and that's something Montana didn't have.Brady became a starter in 2001 and they hadn't changed the rules. He got hit hard by Ray Lewis and the Ravens,Von Miller and the Broncos and the Giants front 4 which Michael Strahan so don't give me that excuse about Brady can't take punishment. Von Miller praised him because he kept getting hit and coming right back. The difference is wasn't fragile and injury prone like Montana

[@rickjohnson5497]

lol there’s a clip of Ray Lewis complaining that Brady should be able to be hit like everyone else. Saying he’s a man after a pathetic roughing the passer call. Then, Rodney Harrison even said it was a horrible call and told Tom Brady to take off the skirt and put on some pants 🤣 be serious. Montana was probably hit more from 81-85 than Brady was his entire career

[@marckellough529]

​@@rickjohnson5497I'm glad you mentioned Ray Lewis and Rodney Harrison.There are also videos proclaiming Tom Brady as the "GOAT".Of course I do realize that you will pretend that you never saw them but bringing them up just proves my point even more. I understand that you have "selective memory".I don't have to come up with a bunch of excuses to prove Brady's greatness all you have to is look at the facts of his unparalleled career. With Montana it's all about what if,woulda,coulda,and shoulda.I watched Warren Moon get hit hard every week and not get injured but with fragile made of glass Montana the excuse is he played in the 80s and 90s that's why he was always hurt.The fact of the matter is he was just fragile and injury prone. Face the facts and by the way 7 rings beats 4 any day of the week

[@emmanueloduntan3286]

17:55 because he has 7 rings 😂😅 💍💍💍💍💍💍💍 But I agree to me as well Brady is not the GOAT ,one of the best? Yeah for sure

[@droid2550]

I would like to ask one question to all the Tom Brady haters out there including you morrey, who is the greatest quarterback of all times? You say it's not Tom Brady so you have to know who is the greatest could you please tell me

[@84productions24]

The new Goat at the QB position is Pat and it’s not even close especially w the defenses that he played wit

[@roranoazoro6961]

i love the breakdown, the one thing that does stick out to me in the brady defense department is that Belichick has had 10 seasons as a head coach now without tom brady as a starter...he’s had 7 losing seasons. 2 first round exits so i would say it more that Brady fell into his lap

[@thelowroad216]

True, but they haven't had an average offensive unit since he left.

[@marckellough529]

​@@thelowroad216He's the GM and picks the players. So it his fault that their offense is trash. But wait a minute I thought Brady's success was because of his so called system. People like you said Brady was a system quarterback. Why is this so called system not working now?? Could it be that Brady was the system??

[@thelowroad216]

@@marckellough529 It could all be his fault, but that doesn't change that the roster has been cheeks since Brady left.

[@marckellough529]

All of the Brady haters want you to overlook the fact that Belichick is a loser without Brady

[@mrbuffneff]

This is a good start but I’d like to see more analysis of the playoffs, esp Brady’s 10 Super Bowl runs. Did he get to and win Super Bowls bc of Belechick’s Defense or did he make the difference with this arm.

[@babel-fishai]

Tom Brady is the definite GOAT. He went to 10 SBs and won 7. Mahomes can never be the GOAT because he was beaten by the GOAT in the SB. Brady appeared in 10 and won 7. There is no denying that he is the GOAT. Joe was great he won 4 SBs in 6 years and is 4-0 in the SB. But....he only appeared in 4 SBs and not in 10 SBs and he has 3 less SB wins than Brady does so he is not the GOAT. Is he great? Sure he was....but he wasn't even the original GOAT. Terry Bradshaw went to 4 Super Bowls in 6 years and won them all. Bradshaw is 4-0 in the Super Bowl in 6 years exactly like Joe would do after him. So Montana is tied with Bradshaw and Bradshaw did it before Joe and in an era that was even more brutal than the one Joe was in. Bradshaw did it in a more brutal era when there were far less teams and that made it even tougher because you had to play the same teams all the time and it made it tougher to win. So Really, Brady because of the number of championships appeared in and the number one far exceeds the others. Then it would be a tie between Bradshaw and Montana with Bradshaw having the edge due to the reasons mentioned. Mahomes isn't even in the debate but if he ever is he would still be trumped by Brady because he lost an AFC championship to Brady and he lost a SB to Brady. So he can't ever be the GOAT because he got spanked by the GOAT and that SB he lost to the GOAT along with the AFC Championship he lost to the GOAT remove him from any type of GOAT status. Mahomes was neutered by the GOAT and therefore he can never be the GOAT. LOL

[@pnut3844able]

Montana said the true goat is Marino, and he's 100% correct. Back then you could get your head taken off. Brady got the rules changes so that if you even looked in his general direction, it was a flag. One of the biggest 🐱 ever. Also, tom had some of the most stacked teams ever, making him look FAR better than he was. It's not even a contest, Marino is the GOAT by far people. PERIOD.

[@babel-fishai]

@@pnut3844able Back then they walked for 20 miles barefoot in the snow yeah blah blah lol Meanwhile in 2024 Brady has 7 SB rings. Joe has 4 and Bradshaw has 4 too and Bradshaw did it in an even tougher era than Joe. LOL Bradshaw would be the real GOAT but he still comes in 2nd to Brady. Brady has almost twice as many rings. 7. If you're in denial then you're just in denial. LOL

[@pnut3844able]

@@babel-fishai rings mean nothing. Even Montana said Marino is the goat. Rings are a team thing, not a goat thing.

[@babel-fishai]

@@pnut3844able Rings mean everything. That's the name of the game. Production and Quantity outweighs skill any day of the week. Just ask your little Danny boy. He knows that what I speak is true. In fact I bet you he'd give away some of that "skill" for just one SB Ring because like you said it's a team sport and the name of the game is to win championships and when one player has successfully completed that task more times than any franchise has in it's entire history and done that as a part of 2 teams then that person my friend is the GOAT period.

[@babel-fishai]

@@pnut3844able Like how I proved you wrong with your own logic lol The reason they play the games is to win the championships. That is the whole entire meaning of the pre season the season and the post season.

[@josheternal]

The goat convo is between Rodgers and Brees and Maybe Marino. Perhaps you could throw Peyton Manning in the mix if you stretched it. Brady is top ten to top fifteen of all time for sure, but not the actual goat

[@thecensoredmuscle563]

I don't think there is a goat of football. Just to many positions, players and coaches are involved in everything and it's the one sport you can't be an all time great on both offense and defense.

[@yk_Its_jax]

My top 5 are peyton at 1 rodgers at 2 and montana at 3 with brees at 4 and 5 is up for debate

[@marckellough529]

Rodgers, Brees and Marino?? 😂 You got to be kidding!! Those three losers played almost 60 yrs. combined and only have 2 I repeat 2 Super bowls appearances combined and you have the nerve to mention that choker Peyton Manning who was just a star in REGULAR SEASON and went one and done 9 times in the playoffs. He only threw 3tds and 5ints in 4 Super bowls and threw a pick six with 2 minutes to go to lose the Super bowl against New Orleans. What facts are you using to say those other three loser are better than Brady.Oh I know "A bunch of meaningless regular season stats" !!

[@pnut3844able]

The TRUE GOAT is Dan the Man Marino baby!!!! Even Montana said so!!!

[@lotennaokeke3414]

Heresy

[@dj_cmc2274]

Cam Newton and Eli Manning owns Tom Brady

[@NinjaDog9123]

What happened when Cam replaced Brady in New England? I’ll wait…..

[@daytns]

I remember when TB and Brady played the Chiefs in the superbowl. And Brady did nothing special that whole game, but Mahomes was running for his life on every play because the defense on the Bucs was just insane!

[@brettdavidson3866]

Yeah and the Brady fans say how awesome he is and he throws the ball 20 yards every play wow what a athlete

[@marckellough529]

Who in the hell does he think he fooling?? The man has more Super rings than any team. 10 Super bowl appearances. He also has all of the passing records even though he didn't have great receivers for most of his career so he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about

[@Watsupyoutube]

He put up 31 points

[@marckellough529]

@@Watsupyoutube And he threw 3 td passes

[@TommyWyman]

Yeah, all he did make great reads and throw amazing passes

[@RonaldS1986]

I think your analysis is very interesting! You show that Tom Brady indeed is one of the greatest quarterbacks, but that there are other greats who have put up comparable numbers. The biggest difference between Brady and other greats like Manning and Rodgers is defense and that makes total sense because football is, afterall, a team sport. I imagine that competition within a division or conference can also be a factor.

[@marckellough529]

No the biggest difference is Manning and Rogers are great regular season players who choked in the playoffs

[@AidanHolland]

I dont consider brady to be greatest qb of all time but the most accomplished player in terms of wins all time. The bill russell of football.

[@AidanHolland]

I will say this. They are two types of players Dan Marino ( a guy who was obsessed with individual stats and who when Jimmy Johnson tried to alter his game towards a running game refused. Brady in his last SB win with the pats handed the ball of to Sony Michel to run in for the touchdown. ( Team player) also Brady was lucky. Marino was not.

[@AidanHolland]

I respect your opinion though but I don't think pats win any rings without Brady.

[@NBa5322]

best explanation i have seen yet of why Brady is the GOAT at one thing...being the most OVER-RATED player of all time...well, maybe except Lebron

[@relaxandcalmstation]

Drew Brees is the real 🐐

[@yk_Its_jax]

Drew brees is my 3 or 4 i believe peyton manning is

[@retroguy3344]

I’ll need to see another quarterback with a ring for every day of the week before i start calling anyone other than Brady the goat

[@TommyWyman]

1000 iq

[@joeolsen3553]

Obviously you're just lazy and don't listen. Very stupid argument.

[@yk_Its_jax]

This man is a genius

[@TheKalebWard]

Eye test hes definitely not the goat

[@spideysg1163]

As a 49ers fan well said, imo Jerry Rice and Lawrence Taylor are the goats of football not Brady

[@choosecarefully408]

So, to counter the _opinion_ that Brady is The GOAT you cite awards that are based upon opinion, like pro-bowl selections? As if football people aren't prone to impressions. Brady cheated. & still these football people selected him to represent the league. If any Black QB had gotten caught doing either of those cheats, everyone would never cease pointing out that they cheated. If it were his Only Championship in a year he cheated (there were several. Spy-gate had been going on for over a year when discovered, deflate-gate nearly five if memory serves). The _second cheat_ he was caught in was discovered *in **_the PLAYOFFS!_* So this guy was so convinced he himself could not win honestly, he risked expulsion from the league *in the **_playoffs!_* & yet these supposedly Fine Football People honor him with awards. Then you want to say that another reason Brady isn't the GOAT is that he has the Greatest Coach of all time? The _other guy_ who cheated? Whose NFL record without Brady is a losing one is The Greatest? Dude, you may want to delete this.

[@jpgiles1725]

Tom Brady for sure cheated. For that reason alone, I cannot consider him the GOAT. It makes you wonder how many times He and Belechik cheated and didn't get caught. Yeah, they got caught a few times, but I believe they cheated more than people think. They just didn't get caught.

[@desnutz901]

BRADY= CHEATER

[@brianlopiccolo725]

Stop you're drunk Tom Brady is the goat

[@bartsimpson7680]

How so? He is not the greatest, to be the greatest don’t you’ve to play like the greatest? Brady’s play style never struck me as insane or generational.

[@sportslangtv2181]

Tom brady is not really the nfl goat it's disrespectful to Jerry rice lawrence taylor and so on you know what I'm saying tom is only the goat in qb position jerry is the goat in wr position and so on tom brady can't be the nfl goat cause he's only good at qb position and that's pretty much it

[@bill1982ify]

Get Lost

[@ibrahimsamara8644]

Me personally I think Brady is the Goat off of just pure skill and precision,as well as the fact that when you think of Football the first person who comes to your head is Brady for the average person

[@brettdavidson3866]

Who was his competition in his division who was his competitor in his division dolphins bulls and jets who were like 0 and 50 it’s a joke to call him the goat he’s good but let’s pump the brakes guess what bill wennigton has 3 championships with Michael Jordan is he the best center in the nba over Shaq Kareem Hakeem the reason Brady fans don’t use stats is they wanna lie 😂 and use super bowls well let’s use that Joe Montana Lost zero super bowls and so did terry Bradshaw

[@thecensoredmuscle563]

I'm sorry but Brady is not skillful, and his precision is only okay. he made a career on checkdowns and easy passes. It worked for his stacked teams, but he himself was never special on the field. he literally just stands there then throws and easy pass 99% of the time, with great protection.

[@Hockey7234]

If you’re talking pure skill is Brees or Rodgers. Not even close. Brady is a systems QB and is poor on the scramble. And the be honest, I think a lot of his games are fixed for him to shine since he’s the face of the NFL. Watch his games, just weird how he always has 7-8 seconds in the pocket and his go to guy on 1st and goal is always Gronk be he’s never played man to man lol

[@marckellough529]

​@@brettdavidson3866Joe Montana is proof that you are a hater against Brady. You NEVER mention the fact that Montana played with a great defense in every Super bowl that he played in and Bradshaw played with the STEEL CURTAIN defense yet you haters never even mention that fact.You're nothing but a bunch of haters with what I call "SELECTIVE MEMORY "

[@lackyblue3644]

Trace McSorley is the true goat