WHY Trailbrake? - Visualizing Load Transfers and Aero - Liveforspeed - Assetto Corsa Competizione

[@ybchandelier6240]

LFS days were just amazing. Just hopped back to sim racing after 10 years, still 1-2 off pace in ACC lol

[@DukeOfCurling]

This game is a top game guys. This is really explaining everything you need to know to became a master in setup

[@cmdrhersin592]

That setup force preview should be a standard in every single sim. I know what im going to do for next few days.

[@SimBroadcasts]

The XR GT Turbo (XRT) is S1 content now, but back in the day it used to be one of the demo cars. Its baby sister the XR GT (XRG) is demo content. LFS is still a great simulator, and you gave a nice summary of why.

[@SimracingPopometer]

might have missed a few patches since "early 2009" ;)

[@SimBroadcasts]

@@SimracingPopometer Just a couple ;)

[@balazsvekony]

the satisfaction when I did a 1.23.xx on Blackwood GP with the XRT... good memories, great community, sad it is basically dead now.

[@jackyharrisracing750]

The visual representation of forces in this are really helpful in understanding what is going on. Thank you for sharing this!

[@danibot3000]

This is beautiul - like a physics sandbox for cars. Now i can play around and teach me suspension setups with direct visual feedback.

[@TraceForce]

What an awesome demonstration! Thank you very much for this!

[@emilw82]

This kind of simulation of setting up car should be aplied to ACC.

[@luizarthurbrito]

It is being simulated. There's just not a visualisation.

[@0Freguenedy0]

What you can do is view after a session, on the motec, how the tire forces were

[@emilw82]

@@0Freguenedy0 yes but i don't know if i'm to high or to low with the values :/

[@paulo..ferreira]

LFS is a masterpiece. IMO the one thing that kept it from being a "block buster" was lacking real life tracks, or minimum modding possibilities for people to do it.

[@SimJoy]

I had lots of fun with this game in the past (old school, great school), nice to see it in your explanation video, which is really helpful, thank you. There is always something to learn.

[@SimracingPopometer]

its where i grew up, its why I'm here

[@pxelguyplays]

Best explanation on the topic! Great job! Thank you! 🏆

[@pxelguyplays]

Maybe a side by side show of the sportscar while slamming the brakes vs trail braking could help viewers even more to visualize

[@SimracingPopometer]

i didnt expect this impact honestly, will invest more time into detail for the next! was tapping into 10% of the potential of this i guess

[@charlie-charles]

Awesome explanation in great mixed science tech fashion style!

[@JeromeEtienne]

Very interesting! I love how it helps people understand setting. Thanks for making the video

[@vrj0]

So we'll explained, amazing stuff Nils!

[@ViktorJaneba]

I almost forgot how awesome LWS was/is.

[@tomasztesarczyk9964]

Such a complex things can be explained in such an easy way only by Nils Naujoks Simracing.

[@slim_3153]

Thanks for the effort and absolutely nice content mate!

[@SimracingPopometer]

cheers mate!

[@robertbrown1778]

I still think the way the tail 'wags' in an LFS tankslapper looks more natural than other sims. Apart from BeamNG the others still look like they're rotating about the middle to me. But I could never get over the synthetic engine sounds from the far end of a tunnel. And the difference between LFS' "new" (lol) physical tyre model and iRacings'? - When LFS' didn't work, they didn't release it!

[@SimracingPopometer]

maybe thats the problem with iracing: they are convinced it works :D

[@radiowallofsound]

LFS had the best physics back in the old days, and still has the best mirrors implementation in VR (stereoscopic mirror rendering, not just a flat render like every other sim). The worst thing about LFS for me is the sounds and the online racing... they are all drift, cruise or blackwood haha... but still enjoy racing on it in 2020

[@HErquizi]

oh thanks Nils , this is so helpful !

[@racingwitherl9643]

This is so sick! great video dude. I wish devs for modern sims see this video and take ideas away from it.

[@planet3bike]

LFS 4ever! :>

[@rufirufus7]

holy cow. this blew my mind THX alot

[@Kefuddle]

LFS is epic!

[@ScottyHews]

Brilliantly informative video. Cheers

[@kerimca98]

You could try using Cheat Engine and slow down time by like x5, it just works

[@TseboMoloto]

Thank you Nils, gonna give this a look, I must say though I’ve just realized how clueless I am lol, thanks for the awesome lesson.

[@SimracingPopometer]

i was just lectured by a friend on what i could do way better here - we all are clueless :D

[@danibot3000]

"Ah, you're finally awake." Happy learning

[@ravrocket6501]

Hi Nils, enjoy the content and very keen on joining the channel. What do the recorded coaching sessions include? I'm just having difficulty finding out what separates it from a normal track guide. What is included when Joining? Thanks.

[@SimracingPopometer]

hey mate! people book coaching sessions with me, many of them allow me to record how I am analyzing their lap and where they can gain the time. So what you see is their mistakes and how I try to make them understand where their issues come from. Apart from that, when theres a lack of coaching I'll try to find the time to make extended track guides - the last one took me an hour to go through the details. Give it a try for one month and then rage at me if its garbage :D

[@Jm3hatR]

I used to play this game! It's pretty good, I don't know why they didn't continue

[@nateel86]

Didn't continue? Dev still working on the game

[@Jm3hatR]

@@nateel86 You know what I meant. Like, someone could have invested in that game, maybe a lfs 2 or something with better textures, etc. it had so much potential and had a good community.

[@nateel86]

@@Jm3hatR Ah ok. Well, devs are still active and new graphics will come. It will just take time.

[@sklew]

Great information Nils, thanks

[@IlFender]

we love live for speed!

[@kawpoy]

oh my god i remember racing back in 2011 with my G27 on this game

[@SimracingPopometer]

force feedback is instantly great and way too strong on the DD :D

[@kawpoy]

@@SimracingPopometer i need to give it a go with my CSL Elite

[@Jm3hatR]

The best game for drifting

[@nerk1807]

Love this game, im glad when it gets some attention, sadly game gets no real updates and community is only smaller and smaller

[@SimracingPopometer]

yeah, I read the forum the other day and I feel like its still the same as 2009. Of course there has been improvement, but the speed of process and the attention to detail is unchanged

[@rout12345]

1:04 lmao

[@danibot3000]

He said lets not talk about the livery 😅

[@SimracingPopometer]

was just too lazy to edit it - its fully custom of course :D

[@GPEightyNine]

Is there still an active community in LFS? This game had huge potentials. But, like 10 years ago

[@ped7g]

there are still several leagues going on, if you are serious about it, and there's always some demo-crash-fest on public servers (actually quite some demo servers provide decent hop-on short-race experience, but expect some users being completely new to sim racing, and some users just wanting to ruin it for everyone else because they themselves have sorry pointless life). But there's not as much non-scheduled racing on licensed servers (there's still some going on, and also in peak hours joining some well known public server even if it is empty can lure other racer within couple of minutes, just being the first one is usually the least popular thing to do). It's not dead as in "no racing at all", but the devs having clear vision about how they operate and what is their goal - not very compatible with modern way of game consuming - made it a bit obscure choice today. Then again, if you are iRenting, you can buy for fraction of that life-time S3 license for LFS, and use it any time you wish in following years. (there's also major rewrite of 3D engine and revamp of all tracks incoming in following... year ... years? .. hard to estimate it, first estimates were 2018 ... ;) ...., but many other developers would call it "LFS2" and release under full price, while so far it looks they will release it just as patch, and your current LFS license will be still valid... so "for free" for current LFS owners)

[@marcusbattaglia5400]

Amazing video man!

[@SimracingPopometer]

Appreciate it!

[@pedrocalorio1655]

any ideas of how the engine of the game or the vehicle model is created?

[@SimracingPopometer]

guess you just check the lfsforum.net for that! :)

[@Drum_x_Life]

So nils also with caster I can modify aerodynamics right because with caster the car on turning lowing herself

[@SimracingPopometer]

it will have some influence, but i doubt its noticable. you rather want caster to help retain camber

[@Drum_x_Life]

Thx so much nils for all this question but I fuckin want to be in the sro in one future I’ll promise that

[@SimracingPopometer]

@@Drum_x_Life there are many other hugely competitive leagues, some even more than SRO

[@Drum_x_Life]

I’ m using the Nissan pretty good but difficult to understand 😀🥲🥲

[@Drum_x_Life]

@@SimracingPopometer thx u so much nils 🙏🙏

[@BlackCountryBlitzPcGaming]

Whats this got to do with Assetto Corsa Competizione when its not the game your streaming ?

[@SimracingPopometer]

my whole channel is about ACC and i try to help people understand ACC better. this visualization helps a lot to understand ACC as well, even if its not from the game, because it simply shows physics at work

[@dragon121978]

When setting up a car for a baseline setup, is their a certain order to change things in ? I.e do you start with gears first, then tyre pressure , the toe in etc

[@TheTheaterdreamer]

Basic pressures and brake bias (I say basic because you'll still need to fine tune it later), suspension, arbs and dampers, toes, cambers, back to pressures, diffs, aero and finally pressures and brakes again. That's how I do it anyway.

[@dragon121978]

@@TheTheaterdreamer great Thankyou , is their a easy how to guide for each one of those So how to tune each one

[@SimracingPopometer]

in the end there is no easy with racing simulations. everything is intertwined, you cant look at these things isolated. you just have to accept that there's a longer road ahead to get an idea. for ACC: the dominating factor is downforce and aero balance (you have to think of that as a very dynamic thing that changes in every corner, every braking zone, over every bump) - having the right balance at the right time is where most of the laptime gain over the aggressive preset comes from. the rest is not neglectable, but marginal compared to the overall aero balance *imo

[@dragon121978]

@@SimracingPopometer great Thankyou any suggestions for Assetto Corsa and automobilista 2 for setups

[@SimracingPopometer]

not playing those really. it's also a car game trying to mimic real life physics so the same should apply

[@Yamahaonboardmovies]

thanks Nils :D now i can brake the 57 on Suzuka and the 45 on Monza :D

[@SimracingPopometer]

weeeeeellll... (:

[@Yamahaonboardmovies]

@@SimracingPopometer now i can better understand how the ridehigh and Susp change the camber :-) didn now that

[@SimracingPopometer]

@@Yamahaonboardmovies yeah just keep in mind it does not happen like that in ACC. if you set ride height to a certain value, that value stays. no matter what you do to camber. Acc will keep your desired values as they are and "auto adjust" in the background

[@Yamahaonboardmovies]

@@SimracingPopometer oh ok

[@danibot3000]

*cough* @Aris.Drives 1:45 *cough*

[@SimracingPopometer]

don't think the UI is his responsibility

[@danibot3000]

True.. 🙈

[@danolukastik4817]

Just bit offtopic, but how could you say the menu is outdated, while its still unbeaten by 'modern' sims in simplicity and straght-forwardness, what more do you need? It takes ages in so colled modern sims before you click your way into some actual driving!

[@SimracingPopometer]

very true. it looks outdated, but the way to use it is unrivaled

[@BladeRunner031]

Man,I trailbrake maybe even too much, like almost every corner.Not sure is that good or not but I feel good like that

[@SimracingPopometer]

it depends on corner and car. but that's what the reference data in RST is for. just try it and see what you can read from it

[@BladeRunner031]

@@SimracingPopometer Not sure what is RST mate,Im racing in iRacing but what sim should not matter and Im doing it in almost any car.I know from the day I learned how to do it It become my driving stile.Like I always want that nose down hehe Maybe you can see on my channel last video,2 Q laps from my last race to see what you think.I know data is data but it looks to me you know stiff even without data :D Also,dont look first minute,just Q lap and inputs.Yes,it was pole lap but I know those very top guys on 2 min track are still 0.8 to second faster than I am.Tnx for the video

[@SimracingPopometer]

iracing doesnt have such pitch sensitive aero by the looks of it, trailing is much more prevalent into the corners even in fast and aero heavy cars. you can't do that on ACC. therefore the driving style is different in both games

[@BladeRunner031]

@@SimracingPopometer Interesting.I might try ACC,now Im interested how I would need to change driving style,tnx

[@SimracingPopometer]

welcome! (you can already cancel your iracing sub)

[@stormapex7014]

nils can you please teach me how to trailbrake on controller 😂

[@SimracingPopometer]

some forza player might