Why Trophy Hunting Can Be Good for Animals | Adam Ruins Everything

Turns out the real threat to endangered animals isn’t trophy hunters...
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[@suishcat9407]

I hate people who say "I hate how animals are killed they are so cute, but this type of animal isnt cute so it can die"

[@unforsakenentity]

I discriminate and target those with the tastiest meat.

[@ShankarSivarajan]

Are all animals created equal? I personally would like mosquitoes to be driven extinct, (the damned bl**dsuckers!) and if the rare multi-warted toad (probably made up, but who knows?) also goes extinct as a consequence ... who cares?

[@acatwithinternet5635]

i wonder what rhino and lion taste like.

[@rowanmeddings8553]

if mosquitos went extinct the whole ecosystem would go to shit

[@Hazzardworks]

All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others (i.e. cuter ones)

[@Violent2aShadow]

Save all the animals! Why do they have to die? *Takes a bite out of a chicken sandwich.*

[@MrCrashDavi]

In which case trophy hunting is good. Animal Rights activism and Environmentalism are completely different causes and should be seen as such.

[@geograymon55]

Don't you know animal lives matter just as much as people's!?! *Gets bit by rattle snake*

[@willyham_7661]

I think it's more about the endangered species that pains me, chickens and other livestock are massively overpopulated by us. If we manage to get white rhinos overpopulated somehow then I will be impressed.

[@toonsquirtle264]

don't you know that killing people is wrong *eats arm*

[@nicklewis470]

but.... chickens or cows or pigs etc aren't *critically* endangered

[@frut_jooos]

Also another thing, trophy hunters collect one of each animal, so they'll only hunt one or 2, while poachers hunt as many as they can, ultimately hurting more animals

[@ThirdFront]

Trophy hunting+poaching worse than poaching.

[@joepat1279]

@@ThirdFront did you watch the video?

[@ThirdFront]

@@joepat1279 Yes I did. I also looked at other sources which show "let the community decide" is sometimes not the best option (US civil war??). For instance, will you allow a child to be raped by a millionaire if he donates fixed sum to govt for helping victims of child trafficking?

[@thurdays_angel6442]

ThirdFront that’s completely different, how could you compare raping a child for funding to trophy hunting for funding. Both are completely horrible but they also involve completely different situations. Both trophy hunting and poaching are wrong, and I wouldn’t want either. But if I had to choose, I would want the one that helps funding to protect more animals. Again, both are wrong and you shouldn’t do either but also it’s not equal to raping a child for funding. The lasting effects for a child who is raped is indescribable. And yes you could argue the lasting effects of killing species of animals, but again you shouldn’t compare them. They aren’t the same. You asked if you would allow a child to be raped by a millionaire if he gave money to help prevent sex-trafficking. The answer is obviously, no. No amount of money is worth raping a child, even if it saves more. But killing one animal to save more isn’t as horrible. Wrong, yes. But not worse then raping a child to save more. If more animals are saved because one died, then the ones saved could populate more. It’s not the best solution but it’s working. It’s not justified in any way, but I rather see more alive then more dead. I am not saying that trophy hunting is right, it’s a very wrong thing to do. But I just hate the fact that you brought up raping a child for funding to be compared to killing an animal for funding. It isn’t and never will be the same.

[@ThirdFront]

@@thurdays_angel6442 Unless you see animals as one of "us", recognize their equal right to live on earth like us, and realize their survival is essential for our future, no conservation is possible. It would only be a farm, animal farm.

[@cloaker7237]

"Killing animals can help animals!" Thanos: (slowly nods)

[@memelord691]

You see it's funny because it's true

[@ariz1516]

Avengers: (Softly) don't

[@slevinchannel7589]

"But still", my ass. It might work, but it does not solve the problem. "But still" is used way too much in this video. The problem is still not solved and keeping things alive to have them be killed later for no real reason is still bad. ALSO: Wanna bet how long it takes for the Ruthless Hunters to get smarter?? What if they, i dont' know, create an Academy for Ruthless Hunters? -That might sound like a joke at first, but think about it.

[@iamacatperson7226]

Slevin Channel then, how would you solve the problem? You bash them for not solving a problem, so how would you solve it?

[@cloaker7237]

@@slevinchannel7589 Cat Person has a point. It's one thing to point out the flaws of a solution, but it accomplishes nothing if you can't give a better one.

[@barrypeanut8110]

Thanks to this series, I am now so fucking obnoxious and condescending. THANK YOU

[@adderallsenpai]

Same though

[@dropout]

Adam Ruins Everything: ending friendships since 2015!

[@DrSmart20]

I think you mean, Ruining Friendships...

[@adderallsenpai]

CollegeHumor yeah pretty much but damn it feels good to be right

[@Karina-jk1jq]

me

[@NadeemAli-db1zn]

Lion: *Literally eats a child* The Dad: “Hey!”

[@looeegy]

I guess he's used to lions eating children

[@kennethfharkin]

@@looeegy It is not as uncommon as you expect. 250 per year currently. It used to be far, far higher.

[@ambroseruhlman5405]

Looeegy G. Ah man I was gonna eat that

[@karinaflores2044]

*that one guy from lego city comercials wants to know your location*

[@guilhermecorrea545]

Build the rescue helicopter and off to the rescue!

[@daniellesmith686]

I’m not crazy about the way they fund this, but when I was in Namibia last, I visited Etosha National Park which is basically a giant safe zone for animals, and it’s literally guarded by a sizable portion of Namibia’s military. The border patrol of the national park is more impressive than the border patrol of some entire nations. As much as I dislike the funding, there’s not a lot of arguing that there’s a pretty serious net gain

[@paulm8392]

I hunt and I am not crazy about the way this is funded either but there isn't a better way currently. Many celebrities have sufficient funds to purchase and operate game reserves but they seem to find it more convenient to virtue signal and stockpile their cash.

[@suckerforpain7373]

I'm from Namibia and I can tell you we protect those parks like America protects it's southern border and we protect our actual borders like America protects it's northern border.

[@blueangel4ever370]

@@suckerforpain7373 Ha, that's a good example! And funny too!

[@adamleblanc5294]

Plus the animals that are trophy hunted are generally bad for the species to be kept alive. Generally, aggressive males who can no longer breed and just kill younger males who can. No new babies if that aggressive male is left alive.

[@silverstar7843]

@@suckerforpain7373 I am remembering that.

[@PA551ON]

Out of all of Adam's ruins, this one was the most life-changing for me.

[@freemang8189]

Why

[@yutyrannusfanboy5873]

@@freemang8189 because it makes sense

[@SeanKuder]

I remember seeing this and it suddenly clicking for me

[@TheNotSoAnonymousMan]

Oh shut up

[@hopefully2alpha]

Because this is the first one that's actually true

[@noahchats2064]

I don't want ANY animal to - *Bites Into Chicken Burger* ... any animal to die EVER ! It's just not- *Takes Another Bite* ... It's just not fair !

[@driversetup6483]

-says 99.9% of people

[@yywilder]

DigitalNinja ZA a

[@nosandshere1717]

greatgood5 what 14 year old girls did you meet that liked moths... everybody hates moths

[@axelthemango8050]

Then you find out that the meat in that burger was made using stem cells.

[@Superabound2]

DigitalNinja ZA Chickens aren't endangered, numbnuts

[@IMMINOSUS]

lion: *casually eats child*

[@ratwoman248]

Waits 7 seconds before reacting

[@jorgewilkis3146]

Same lion, same

[@jjprs3062]

imminosus im just looking at the lion:... also me:hey stop eating kids like that! don't you know how much it costs?

[@familyguysofunny1933]

IMMINOSUS A few minutes later Baby:*Happy and riding a FUCKING LION* Lion:*Sadder than the time I got rejected by my crush*

[@TyloMusic18]

Children eats lions too

[@leojordan5338]

When i was a kid, i never understood it either. Until i realized that the old, grumpy animals that can no longer breed were killing the younger ones that can breed. That and when the population is to much in one area and they eat up all the food, they'll starve. That's when i realized they need to go.

[@royalpain9281]

Plus the old animals should be in pain so it is best to put them down

[@xrstevenson]

That makes so much more sense. Killing off the very old ones that can't breed and the ones that are killing the younger ones that can is a very great idea. However, I'm not enthusiastic about the 'if-there's-too-many-in-one-spot-thin-the-herd' method. Can't just move more of the breeding animals to other locations?

[@royalpain9281]

@@xrstevenson that’ll require money

[@MsAggie78]

Except trophy hunters don't kill old or sick animals. They go after animals in their prime. The whole POINT of trophy hunting is to kill animals in their prime, to have a good-looking trophy to gloat over.

[@domd9876]

You’re still wrong. As someone else said, trophy hunters don’t hunt old animals. They hunt the younger ones that look healthier and would look better on their wall.

[@whitexchina]

Farmer to Rhinos: "Breed my little money bags, breed" It's all about the Benjamins.

[@frut_jooos]

I thought it was "breathe, my little money bags?"

[@sandimiftah7147]

@@frut_jooos same as me lol

[@slevinchannel7589]

"But still", my ass. It might work, but it does not solve the problem. "But still" is used way too much in this video. The problem is still not solved and keeping things alive to have them be killed later for no real reason is still bad. ALSO: Wanna bet how long it takes for the Ruthless Hunters to get smarter?? What if they, i dont' know, create an Academy for Ruthless Hunters? -That might sound like a joke at first, but think about it.

[@TheZINGularity]

Thank you Mr transcript

[@inkdupbagman3697]

Egoist altruism in a way

[@chemicalreactions8766]

yes

[@newwindsflow5726]

Chemical reactions make more vid pls

[@kylehein8729]

Zimbabwe

[@BasedCannon]

@@evoqgaming8565 hey look guys! He's from South Africa and white... See no one cares

[@evoqgaming8565]

Breach 'N' Clear what are you talking about?

[@evoqgaming8565]

Breach 'N' Clear I never said anything

[@fnmarko4225]

Lion: Eats child Father: Hay what the heck dude

[@BonziBuddyWx]

Dude uncool

[@declannichols5163]

Nicolas Klatzer what did he say

[@lincolnehret]

*A MAN HAS FALLEN INTO THE RIVER IN LEGO CITY*

[@samuelbarber6177]

That’s the third this week.

[@hannesynnverusten8090]

Brotha

[@harmonicarchipelgo9351]

In a parallel way, using paper can actually help save the trees. Most trees are clear cut not for wood, but to clear land for more profitable uses. The more demand we have for lumber and paper, the more we get "paper farms" and sustainable tree cutting, since companies that sell wood want to have trees in the future... to eventually cut down and sell once replacements have started growing.

[@AaronCMounts]

The world has about 7% more tree coverage now than it did 40 years ago.

[@saffran8625]

But the trees in tree farms aren’t permanent and are going to be cut down though? Maybe it would be neutral , but would it SAVE trees?

[@harmonicarchipelgo9351]

@@saffran8625 No trees are permanent. Welcome to the life cycle.

[@kxjohns6448]

@@AaronCMounts But not old growth forests.

[@sachinraghavan4556]

Well trees don't feel pain so it's kind of a false equivilancy here. But it's close.

[@sid_dum9495]

"I drink 50 gallons of water a day and I'm not as thirsty as this girl" is the best roast I've heard in a long time.

[@themadhacker9376]

"why dont we ban trophy hunting and find a better way?" For the same reason you dont jump out of a plane and invent the parachute on the way down...

[@guyfromthatoneplace478]

The Mad Hacker exactly

[@demonzepar8436]

If you're on a public plane and you jump out you don't have to invite them not come with you being sucked out of the front door

[@albertoaranda5180]

Oh shit you have a point

[@dickhead625]

They have tried other methods of fundraising for these reserves. They didn't just jump to hunting straight away, they tried tourism etc. But it didn't generate enough money especially for the landmasses/environments was talking about. I,.e. jungles and hot open plains in countries with growing populations with a need for increased farmland or at least increased farming yields. Unfortunately, this solution works best in these areas. There are other places (usually near coasts that deal with endangered sea life and over fishing etc.) where farming fish, wildlife conservation and tourism brings in enough money to support conservation. Although these places have completely different geography, population density and ability to grow food, access to water (mainly thanks to their geography) etc. sorry just had this debate with my colleagues who say it's immoral but forgetting about nay practicality in the matter.

[@SomeGuy-lr7ms]

Well we are trying But people donate money to Pandas instead of other animals

[@martinstiastny7679]

In countries like Zimbabwe, all wild game meat goes back to the community. It is illegal for a visiting Hunter to bring meat back to the United States. Anyone who has traveled abroad should know this as you have to fill out a customs declaration upon returning to the US.

[@shindean]

Very true, nobody is going to argue that. However, the problem is inherently obvious that even legalized hunting encourages illegal hunting. Just this past year America was pissed off that a hunter had Cecil the lion killed, and to this day, even though the dentist who did it hasn't claimed full responsibility for the "mistake", nobody has yet to find the head of this well known mascot. I'm fairly sure it's in the dentist's trunk, but conservationism has an incredible amount of flaws and loops: "You can hunt these lions...BUT, you have to pinky swear not to hunt THESE LIONS." Typical hunter: "Duuur...sure, whatever!"

[@martinstiastny7679]

shindean You do have a lot to learn about hunting. Look at Kenya when they had legal hunting and now. Poaching has almost wiped out the elephant. Legal hunting ensures game animals have a place. For the future, watch Botswana.

[@Dominicgetdown]

It is not the responsibility of the hunter to know what animal to kill if he is paying a guide to help him find an animal to kill. Any good guide has that as part of the contract. That dentist got screwed over and is the one taking the blame because no one wants to blame some random African dude who no one can harass online.

[@shindean]

Martin Stiastny And as you type this, two more rhino species went extinct this year. Conservation isn't defined as restoration, it means TRYING to keep what's left. This may be the best of a bad situation, but it's still bad. Plus, lions are the keystone species of an ecosystem. So if you ever get annoyed with those commercials that feature a starving indigenous village that depended on the natural earth for nutrition in Africa, and it's asking for donations, then stop supporting the hunting of lions, or STFU.

[@martinstiastny7679]

shindean You sir, are a fucking idiot. You know nothing of the benefits of hunting. The economies of countries or the attitude of the people in these countries. The value of these wild animals is on the ground, meaning, what is it worth to the people. They see lions and rhino and elephants as threats and dangers. They would rather kill them off and raise cattle. Hunters paying trophy fees and the industry generating jobs for the local communities proves a benefit to the people to not kill off these animals. Lose the emotions and use your brain.

[@toastius9939]

"Some of you may die,But thats the Sacrifice im willing to take" -Lord Farquaad

[@minorcomet282]

"The hardest choices require the Strongest wills."

[@rachell452]

"There is no greater sacrifice than someone else's" - Skipper

[@zimbabweyouthoutdoors4613]

I’m from Zimbabwe and this is so true!!!! People neeed to spread this cause the decrease of trophy hunting and people pushing to ban it is going to cause problems

[@enter_feeling6042]

Organised hunting etc is ok. But illegal hunting and poaching is where I draw my line

[@AaronCMounts]

@@enter_feeling6042 Are there trophy hunters who don't draw the line at illegal hunting/poaching?

[@brenyatta]

I guarantee the whack jobs at PETA have tried banning it, which wouldn’t be surprising with the amount of bullshit they spew on a daily basis

[@victoriasalter1701]

No. I’m not African. I’ve never been to Zimbabwe or anywhere like that. However, I still feel I can place moral judgement on immoral practices that happen over there. Similarly, I have never been to China, yet I can still judge the Yulin Dog Meat Festival and the abuse of the Uyghur Muslims as wrong. Anyhow, killing individual animals to save species is still wrong. As important as saving species is, a species is not a sentient being, but an individual animal is. If a man were to shoot a hundred children and then donate thousands of pounds to a children’s charity and save thousands of children’s lives, while the outcome of the good he did would still be amazing, it wouldn’t make what he did to start with morally right. It’s still mass murder. Imagine someone were to do this with a particular race or nationality of people and offer rich psychopathic and sadistic outsiders the chance to shoot a few of them for fun, but don’t worry, the money that came from them would be used to fund healthcare and education for the remaining people. If trophy hunters genuinely cared so much for conservation and wildlife, why are not just donating the money directly to wildlife conservation and rescue and education? Why are they spending time murdering innocent animals and not actually volunteering to help them? At the end of the day, they are doing it because they enjoy it. They are psychopaths and sadists who get pleasure out of killing magnificent and beautiful animals, animals who may have been happy and have families, animals who have just as much right to live as they do, and taking their heads, horns, skins and tusks as trophies and posing, smiling, with the dead animals and having their photos taken like the sadists they are. I honestly don’t know what the solution is, but this is not the solution. More funding is definitely needed to save the animals, but we need to find alternative sources of the funding and support that don’t involve murdering the animals needlessly. If we were to solve/reduce Africa’s poverty issues, that would go a long way here. Btw, I am well aware that not all Africans are poor.

[@victoriasalter1701]

I am well aware that not all Africans are bad to the animals. There are conservationists and rangers who put their life on the line to protect the animals and I greatly respect and honour them for this.

[@chopinbloc]

You forgot to mention that the meat is usually donated to needy locals.

[@allisongarrison5947]

SO TRUE!!

[@RavenBlaze]

I totally support responsible hunting, especially deer hunting! A couple good bucks can feed a family for a year and it helps keep the population in check, there fore fewer deer on the roads to get hit by cars!

[@Burkesworth]

C.

[@ncfo20]

That's got nothing to do with helping the animals though.

[@Victor4X]

Yes it does, it makes the locals like the idea of investing in this kind of conservation even more

[@matthewbott3726]

I love how, years later, people are still bitching about this and think THEYRE smarter than the people actually dealing with these issues.

[@kennethfharkin]

Woke > Logic

[@SupernaturalDetective]

vomittie yesterday orange haired impeachment man and the suicidal rapist politician

[@6idangle]

There are experts are disagree on whether or not it’s effective

[@madhavilanka7787]

I used the animals to save the animals.

[@frut_jooos]

@@madhavilanka7787 make this public bro don't let it rot in a reply section

[@CairoCreations]

I love how the dad says “Hey!” Like you would to your dog if they snitch a bit of bacon. Not livid- just a mild inconvenience and anger.

[@stevester553]

He forgot to mention that the hunters are assigned an animal and that animal is always older or negatively effecting the community or something. Typically it is older males who are not capable of reproducing but are still fighting for mates.

[@shadowman484]

He kinda gave the example of that beign the case at 2:40 but he could put more onto it, yeah.

[@themarinefan]

Too bad that the system is not that effective and hunters do not actually abide by the reserves rules. This is total bullshit.

[@sachinraghavan4556]

That doesn't make any sense, animals generally choose strong mates and leave the weaker ones alone. This isn't a justification to shoot them.

[@ultimazillarex1076]

And it just so happens that old males make the best trophies.

[@Lazyspaceout]

@@sachinraghavan4556 Do you go and just bother everyone on here?

[@DairunCates]

Cool. Completely logical and factual argument that brings up some excellent points. You can also go into how properly managed hunting DOES help keep in check more wild and out of control populations. Trophy hunters still don't get to call themselves "conservationists" though. That's for people that donate money to conservation without expecting to get to shoot something in exchange. Gamblers aren't "Supporting the Development and Local Economy of Las Vegas".

[@9Godslayer]

We aren't? Damn! That casino lied to me!

[@BobBob-ui6ot]

Gamblers can't support the development and local economy of Las Vegas because the majority of the stuff that's in "Las Vegas" is actually an unincorporated town called Paradise, and the stuff was created there to avoid paying taxes to the real Las Vegas (they only pay taxes to the county, state, and federal govt.). The Mayor of Las Vegas tried to annex Paradise but was rejected by the county because the county would get more revenue out of Paradise being an unincorporated town rather than it being an actual part of Las Vegas. So in theory, the gamblers are "Supporting the Development and Economy of Clark County, Nevada" or it's just going to the two corporations (and possibly the mafia) that run the place.

[@DairunCates]

Bob Bob I mean... My point was that accidentally doing something contrary to your intentions that's good by doing a thing (saving animals by killing them or increasing money flow by trying to win a sizeable amount from a place) doesn't make you a hero. So, not like it actually ruins my point.

[@alanlasater7354]

Ok but don't think all trophy hunters are like this "dweeb" in the video. In fact, I don't think it's crazy to say that most are like the trophy hunters I know: people who are aware that the money they spend on their hobby is going to good causes and more often hunt not for trophy but for food.

[@BobBob-ui6ot]

DairunCates I wasn't saying anything about your point, I just wanted to inform you about the misconception about Las Vegas.

[@chrisgreenie9785]

This is a very good one. It really pisses off hippies

[@gishathosaurus6828]

Hippies ? dude you're soooo out of touch... they are called SJWLGTBPCs now :) Hippies are critically endangered anyways.

[@scrunglemunctbus4097]

q means queer. the L and G are already there. Fuck your tungle fan

[@chrisgreenie9785]

+Alex Tarau using every letter in the alphabet really doesn't help your cause lol

[@grayko]

Hey! You fucked up mah B! (I'm joking, you better be too.)

[@scrunglemunctbus4097]

shut the fungle up you ufcign solid snale/ You fucking doh man. im dying.

[@waterwater8911]

In the area where I live, there's a species that needs to be hunted seasonally in order to prevent them from overpopulating and damaging their ecosystem, and the revenue from hunters does very much benefit the community as well as the ecosystem in some cases

[@ultimazillarex1076]

What species do you mean, if you don’t mind me asking?

[@MrWWIIBuff]

This happens in the US. In Valley Forge, PA, the deer population can spike to where the deer starve, get forced onto roads and hit by cars etc. So every 10 years or so, a handful of marksmen (not every Tom, Dick and Harry with a hunting license) come in and thin the herd. The reason? All the natural predators have been gone. And with humans no longer hunting for food reliably, the numbers shoot up. The only other solution is to bring back the predators, but they also prey on people, their pets, and their children.

[@oseandepartmentofnarcotics]

Let me guess, Red Deer? Feral Goats?

[@sachinraghavan4556]

Animals don't overpopulate, only humans do and kill them when they walk into human territory. They also kill natural carnivores to begin with.

[@Promare2019]

When Trophy Hunting helps animals more than PETA.

[@Alex-dv5hm]

@@k.4625 Are you saying the group that’s worse than hunters is good? Must mean hunters are good. Hunters actually use the bodies. They eat some of the meat, and donate the rest to local villages. They use the skin and bones as well. Nothing goes to waste.

[@InitialPC]

@@Alex-dv5hm PETA just puts down every animal under its care and throws the bodies in unmarked pet semataries

[@Alex-dv5hm]

@@InitialPC PETA makes more rules and laws under the guise “we’re just helping animals”. But the rules and laws they make are really just to get rid of hunters.

[@Vlugazoide]

Actually hunters kill less animals than PETA

[@zorohibiki]

almost anything help animals more than peta

[@Izzyrc]

Who else is happy that collegehumour is uploading Adam ruins everything again? 🙌🏼

[@dropout]

We're pretty happy about it.

[@PcGamerHero]

Look like I'm resubscribing

[@gurgen5165]

Meeeeee

[@zayag3543]

Literally the only reason I'm here

[@atariblue]

Super happy! Why should only people who have TruTv in their cable package get to hear the truth!? Truth Bombs for everyone.

[@tamaraalwi6901]

"I drink fifty gallons of water a day, but im not as thirsty as this girl"🤣🤣🤣 im dead 💀🤣🤣

[@whitexchina]

But it was a male lion

[@DanishAlKahfi]

@@whitexchina he was saying to the lion but pointing at the ostrich

[@helpmii215]

Ha ha emoji funny

[@null3911]

Basic

[@slevinchannel7589]

"But still", my ass. It might work, but it does not solve the problem. "But still" is used way too much in this video. The problem is still not solved and keeping things alive to have them be killed later for no real reason is still bad. ALSO: Wanna bet how long it takes for the Ruthless Hunters to get smarter?? What if they, i dont' know, create an Academy for Ruthless Hunters? -That might sound like a joke at first, but think about it.

[@WynandLens]

Namibian here. Poaching is the real evil. The Rhino horn trade is the worst thing that is happening to these animals.

[@sachinraghavan4556]

Poaching, trophy hunting, and recreational hunting are all the same act with different end results.

[@sachinraghavan4556]

Poaching and hunting are the same act. One is arbitrarily considered bad.

[@slightlyinsanebiscuit]

My teacher showed this to us in class a couple years back, that was a fun lesson

[@eduardochavacano]

teacher had a hang over that day. I know Im a teacher.

[@Vision444]

"I would like to bazooka one rhinoceros please."

[@or4nge314]

Rendered Useless i rather poach one instead

[@or4nge314]

Chuck Hunts oh but I am making a change to it by advancing the research of fusion power which shall replace any coal or oil burning function nuclear will stay though

[@penguinb1100]

GamingWizard your a GAMING wizard not a real wizard

[@lerombus6020]

The bazooka will damage the horn.

[@burialbrigadevideos7498]

Man I do that in Far Cry 4 everyday

[@FolkoMagipaw]

"I'm doing this for your own good.." *proceeds to violently choke a lion plushy*

[@amox]

Hope she payed the fee. If she did not, it was worthless.

[@michaelramsey82]

I read that as "choke down a lion plushy"

[@shadow_of_thoth]

@@amox taxation is theft, I do what I want

[@jonthegamerplays4833]

Lol

[@boostergold1373]

Call the rspsa

[@ridzmanaliff6651]

"Breed my little money bags. Breed" 😂🤣

[@adriangreen9178]

"Breed my little moneybags breed" LMK🤣

[@theodorekennedy143]

Lion eats child Father: Hey!

[@darkmatterhafnium1522]

Casual hey

[@hopelessheathen8190]

Hey it was hard to make that child

[@beebeenyneeee7692]

Top 10 parents in anime

[@Vilverna]

he's got like 7 more. he's used to it.

[@shamicentertainment1262]

hey! down with this sort of thing

[@ArtblockInsomniac]

Man this really hurts. I've always been against trophy hunting but I hate that this is such a presentable argument. I never thought I'd see myself thinking controlled trophy hunting would be beneficial.

[@btat16]

Caitlin The Insomniac Be proud. The first step to being a better human being is being open minded enough to know you only know as much as you know. Sometimes, you learn new facts and that challenges how you used to think. You can either think, A. Screw this bullhonkey, I know the truth, or B. Oh, this means I’ve seen a different side of the argument. You should never EVER feel bad about picking B. because EVERYONE is wrong about something and people picking B. are just humble enough to admit that ;)

[@george9057]

I agree. Be proud to be open minded and go hunting this summer!

[@SpaceCase132]

Honestly, as a member of the FWC, the NRA, and as a strong advocate for sustainable hunting, I’ve never truly considered how much controlled trophy hunting could help out conservation efforts overseas (which is strange, especially since I advocate the benefits to general hunting here in the States). I just saw hunting these types of protected species as the equivalent to poaching. But after looking more into this argument, it’s easy to see the benefits of such a practice.

[@obiwankenobi8587]

Oh didn't ya know.

[@eisenfaust2888]

To add, this is true. I have a a dear friend that is from South Africa. I asked her about this, and she confirms this. It does help the communities and does help with the preservation of the animals! Be comforted in knowing this. It is controlled and the money IS given to land owners!

[@masonscasualaccount2726]

As a hunter myself, yeah trophy hunting is looked down upon. Hunting for trophies is about the lowest it gets, now of course what you kill you take its trophies such as antlers or ivory’s, but that isn’t the reason to hunt them. It is for food and sport, which sport is also pretty low on the list for most people.

[@rossalbertdelacruz6751]

To me, my view is like euthanizing an animal that is a douche to other kind even an old one

[@ghozisyaifullah254]

Trophy Hunter bit careless to animal meat they Will donate the to needy local but they also eat Hunted animal even if Hunter don't want eat animal they hunt then there is local that will eat the meat

[@PurpledaisyShasta]

I’m surprised this episode didn’t have a section about deer hunting. They bread like rabbits and hunting them helps the environment.

[@nickspeelman9174]

In addition, hunting and fishing licenses fund most states' conservation efforts. A lot of these efforts are facing budget crunches due to the falling popularity of those sports. I have zero interest in hunting and at best a tepid interest in fishing, but I've considered buying licenses just as a way of funding conservation.

[@ms-terious]

They breed like rabbits because humans fucked the ecological balance by eradicating predators from areas or reducing thier numbers such as wolves and bears. Studies have shown that reintroduction of these species brings natural equilibrium. But then you get farmers complaining that they are vermin destroying thier livelihoods and scared local fearing for thier safety. We create wildlife issues with our selfish nature and total disregard for the wider environment then try and solve it by killing away the problem

[@ms-terious]

@morton christie you have proved my point. Rewilding an area for game is not rewilding an area for conservation is it? The predator/prey dynamic works wonderfully when we humans leave well alone. Habitats flourish and animal populations self stabilise. As soon as we want to farm/build/live somewhere the predators are the first to go via safety concerns, then any other animal who causes any sort of inconvenience is declared vermin and culling takes place. Humans are the issue and always will be.

[@ms-terious]

@morton christie how have I missed the point? We humans want our cake and to eat it too. We want a ridiculous amount of diversity when it comes to food that operates at a detriment to the environment and wild animals. Areas where predators exist will only exist for as long as humans dont want something from or to settle in thier area. Game reserves are artificial and many species have been introduced to areas for hunting, , then abandoned, then classified as a menace when people want to repurpose the land. My original post was about deer hunting and the original commentators insistence that deer were a pest and that hunting helped maintain thier numbers.l, when the fact was we created the issue by eradicating wolves, who themselves were seen as pests by farmers trying to protect their bottom line. We live out of sync to the rest of nature, changing our opinions and actions depending on the flavour of the day, this wont change until we factor in other animals needs aswell as our own. In reference to your last point, I find it a little arrogant and presumptuous to make statements about where I've travelled without knowing one iota about me. I've been to Africa a number of times, Botswana, kenya, the Congo.......and south Africa. I served in the army for 12 years and some were training, others, short UN mandated deployments and a few just personal travel. I've seen the corruption and disregard for land and life with my own eye, I've also seen compassion and those trying to help wildlife. I would also like to point out that I was referring to the worlds attitude as a whole and mainly western nations attitudes to thier own countries biodiversity and the mental gymnastics they use to justify thier total disregard whilst chasing a profit

[@GC-pq6vm]

They bread 🍞 lol

[@kaimei3476]

*Lion eats baby* Guy: Hey! >:(

[@DHTGK]

he doesn't sound that concerned

[@kealyhines]

Bro why you do this to me

[@killer92173]

Why do i find that part funny??? Am i a terrible person for laughing at something like that???

[@andrewmartin1829]

@@killer92173 no. Baby is back at 5:12 so it's okay

[@emilianozapata6756]

Nice stolen comment

[@shadowsonthedust]

Thanos approves this message

[@angelofsteel1717]

Perfectly balanced... As all things should be

[@batowner1]

The hardest decisions requires the strongest wills.

[@enid5671]

hhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :))))) funny

[@finnheisenheim8274]

I wanna bang death.

[@garywindus6670]

kingofnightmares Scrounging for scraps? These animals are on the brink of collapse, I saved them. Because you murdered two thirds of them

[@wiliboi2662]

Lion: eats child Father: mildly annoyed

[@Solomon0424]

What can he do to a lion?

[@sebischaeferde]

Awesome and insightful video! Thank you guys! :)

[@halamadruuid2380]

Alien watcher: You can kill Kim jong un for 9000000 space credits Aliens:DEAL!

[@TheAzynder]

​@Andrew Walker Jr. I think this was answered in Southpark s13e06 Pinewood Derby.

[@koichidignitythief7429]

Space Cash isn't real

[@carlwebber4094]

Space credits I think you mean starbucks

[@unitedspacepirates9075]

Space pirates stole their space credits😊

[@madhavilanka7787]

Alien: Aight time to hunt some humans for them moneyz!

[@Xeacons]

How much to hunt the poachers? I'd love a poacher's head on my wall!

[@aliwahab1255]

me too

[@DEMIGOD-yc1bm]

Depends on the price of the gun and ammo :)

[@dangercats77]

The problem is that poachers are extremely well armed (sometimes better armed than the military of the country they live in) and many poachers have agents that would inform them of any attack...It's not fair but until a time when either the African nations are able to ask for help without fear or are able to handle themselves, poaching will be a problem

[@jest7102]

Either a .22 LR or a 20 MM AT sniper rifle, nothing in between.

[@liamparker2590]

We will pay you, come to my home country and you can sign up.

[@KetchupColoredKnife]

Lion: eats a child Father: aw man could you not I really liked him around

[@jacobh9344]

3:06 best. Segway. Ever.

[@Wanderer628]

Cries over one animal being shot in a hunt, proceedes to eat meat made from the deaths of millions of animals yearly.

[@gishathosaurus6828]

Careful, vegans might sue you... they have that copyrighted ;)

[@rowanmeddings8553]

ikr it also hurts these animals due to deforestation and global warming

[@benjaminrobinson7203]

It's true. No death can truly be justified, but hypocrisy is common in "animal lovers" today. That's why I'm vegan, and not a hypocrite.

[@happydays6777]

plants are living creatures too

[@gishathosaurus6828]

#PLANTLIFEMATTERS Sorry, couldn't resist :(

[@Nazareadain]

Can we use the money to fund poacher poaching?

[@God-sz5rf]

That shit does exist

[@tylerbrennon4023]

That exists already.

[@autonomous4277]

Right he wants us to fund it further.

[@Lockdeath]

Sure, just fork over a few hundred thousand dollars and go shoot an elephant or something. Instant poacher poaching revenue.

[@lennysmileyface]

Bounty hunters.

[@anakinskywalker4325]

2:18 he just straight up ate the baby 😂😂

[@jotahsgaming939]

4:09 Wholesome Voice Alert!

[@themadhacker9376]

"yes, i would like to bazooka one rhinoceros "

[@TexMex421]

who wouldn't?

[@madhavilanka7787]

I would unless it's poaching! XD Gotta kill the animals to save the animals

[@TheAres1999]

If you did that, then you would burn the meat. You have to use a rocket powered harpoon.

[@frut_jooos]

That'd be 30000 dollars please. Thanks and here's your "I'm a rich jerk who shoots rhinos" tote bag

[@KSHAWK]

@TheAres1999 yes please

[@alelandi]

That's not what Harambe would think :( R.I.P Harambe

[@ButterflyEnte]

#dixoutforharambe

[@tunaketenoglu1169]

#dicksoutforharambe

[@shinycaterpie4443]

except he wasn't killed by trophy hunting.

[@Lemegeton300]

how was that a Trophy Hunt??????? not even close to the same thing

[@MegaGanash]

Harambe died so that others could live. DICKS OUT

[@lucysnowe9974]

This was an excellent video, learned a lot. Thanks. :)

[@BluTheHHH]

6:20 Breaking News: A Girl becomes crazy and destroys and tries to kill animals even though its inanimate

[@romeosra]

Thanks for the information, I wasn't quite aware and will have to dig deeper into this. However, I've never understood why people have so much trouble with this concept. These are likely individuals that would not hesitate to use the death penalty against another human being, yet somehow they humanize animals and prioritize them over human life - ridiculous.

[@dropout]

Every time someone researches an issue, an Adam gets his wings!

[@sandereidsvaag6985]

The earth is overpopulated by humans. Other animals are dying out. By the logic of the video humans should die.

[@jeffjohn3853]

Careful, don't want the rare and elusive Adam species to get to high and mighty.

[@pufferfishmage7053]

I've never understood why people only care about when "cute" animals die, but don't give a shit when other animals they don't see in that way get killed.

[@ShawtgunHobo]

Wha? Yes, the death penalty (something I don't agree with anyway) is given for MURDER, or mass murder of another human. Please tell me how the animal deserves the same treatment despite not committing any sort of crime.

[@tytheguy13andahalf]

so basically, kill one to save a hundred. where have I heard that philosophy before?

[@alexalvaradocali3863]

Assassins Creed?

[@jeancanestri5572]

cows crossing a river full of piranhas.... you need to sacrifice one so the others can cross.

[@jest7102]

Saving private ryan

[@when7573]

Yogg-Saron?

[@something.icantrememberany1365]

+Jean Canestri I don't think you understand what piranhas are...

[@genralporsjon]

Wow. This is like killing your uncle to save the rest of your family vs watching your whole family slowly die of poisoning right before your eyes.

[@paddock.corbin]

This is the realest video I’ve seen of yours. Interesting perspective

[@emm_gee1294]

So you're telling me letting another country to decide how to handle its own conservation problems without interfering in it with the (holier then art thou) is a good method? Amazing.

[@turma8eac]

Some countries need to learn that

[@KammaQwazi]

Right? Damn. Who would have ever guessed that?

[@NicholasLionRider]

In many ways world powers should let lesser countries try to govern themselves. While there should be some baseline for all countries like don't blow up the world, don't kill your own people and don't attack others, every other decision should be up to them. If we flipped the situation where a country like Uganda was running our national parks like Yellowstone, we'd probably be upset. And if we had severe poverty or job loss and the outside country was funding a save the wolves program, we'd probably be upset too. Conservation is a worldwide collaboration, but they do still have the right to do what they believe is necessary for their own wildlife and economy. We might disagree as westerners, but we're in far better positions. What we should be doing if we care this much is start relocating private nature reserves of African/Asian wildlife here in the United States. If US citizens are that concerned that African countries aren't going to protect Elephants/Rhinos well enough, then we should step in, offer money to buy private land in Africa or buy animals to be relocated to protected areas in the Americas.

[@zashgekido5616]

@Facts aren't racist I mean, technically that's their problem so

[@masteroutlaw100]

@Facts aren't racist You gonna raise an army to invade over it?

[@DogsBeYummy]

I feel like Adam should have elaborated more on which animals are allowed to be tagged for hunting. Barring rare occasions, only older males of the species who are no longer virile are to be hunted. Protecting mating pairs and animals in their prime is how you get the population to recover. On top of that, sometimes the older, non-virile males will still maintain a harem, thus hogging potential mates for males in their prime. Even worse, in the case of black rhinos, the older males will attack and kill the younger ones out of aggression and possessiveness. It might not be right for governments to set out warrants for endangered animals lives, but the individual animals which are chosen as targets are carefully vetted. Make your own decisions based off of this info

[@DogsBeYummy]

Also, when a man pays for the trophy hunt, he will end up supporting the host country in more ways than the initial fee. He will have to stay in local hotels, pay for tour and hunting guides to join his party, and rent vehicles and equipment. Since almost all hunters are supervised, the animals are hunted humanely, and without waste.

[@9Godslayer]

He had that woman assign that hunter to an old, dangerous rhino to demonstrate that.

[@kimberlydrennon4982]

It's as if you listened to the RadioLab episode on this topic this spring.

[@lenitaa7938]

Trophy Hunters have never been interested in killing the old, etc animals! They always kill animals in their prime!!

[@ghozisyaifullah254]

@@lenitaa7938 how you know the law in Africa say that you only can hunt old animal and every animal they hunted is old

[@lienkestumpfe9372]

I love this video! My dad is part of a conversation group, and helps with trophy hunting. This is very informative.

[@sachinraghavan4556]

I really hope you can wake up and see that that has the same logic as a hitman giving to charity. It makes no sense, it's just trading lives for no reason.

[@lienkestumpfe9372]

@@sachinraghavan4556 I really hope you can wake up and see how stupid this sounds. Are you even from Africa? If not, then you won’t even know how we make our money. Many African countries, especially Namibia’s biggest income is hunting. Not tourism but hunting. So if you want people to starve (because the meat from the animal that’s hunted goes to the villagers) then you can ban hunting. It helps with conservation. Also hunters don’t just shoot any animal, they shoot the ones that fits the criteria of the permit, which is mostly old animals that would’ve died in 2 weeks by being eaten alive by hyenas.

[@lienkestumpfe9372]

@@sachinraghavan4556 if you have any further questions, I will happily answer them for you. Also remember legal hunting is done humanely as possible. We don’t trap animals in cages or with traps, because it lets the animals suffer. Many hunters actually have a big heart, and love animals, because they know so much about them. Like my dad always says “If you do shoot an animal and you don’t feel remorse, then you shouldn’t be a hunter.”

[@castbet9183]

It’s funny some countries are actually trying a different method where there’s more observation/tours where they the dying to nature. And use the commissions for tours, merch, etc to find the conservation projects

[@Lazyspaceout]

Yeah but it doesn't make that much money

[@ravangaming1356]

Because trophy hunting is a sensitive process to do and a lot of maintenance So governments chose easier method And it also disturbing wildlife and psychologically impacting them

[@excitedcat9517]

i hate those trophies but the ones that freak me out are the trophy HEADS thier eyes just looking out you like.... ●_● *shutters* CREEPY 

[@dropout]

Put sunglasses on them. Problem solved.

[@paranoidowl8360]

those are EXTREMELY CREPPY !!

[@bloodyrose1985]

They stare into my soul....

[@iLewocean]

+CollegeHumor you guys know what's up

[@richardbean1707]

The eyes are fake. Not that real ones decomposing would be less disturbing to you, but that should probably help explain why they seem so unnatural to many

[@hunterkiller1440]

Sacrifice millions to save billions?

[@silverstar7843]

Lets say i empathize with Garrus Vakarian most of the time. "Now i understand why the world needs cold hearted dictators every now and again... they don't give a damn about the consequences."

[@lookieeight1006]

@@silverstar7843 yeah, but with trophy hunting they (the reservations not the people doing it) care very much about the consequences. That's what this whole video is about.

[@slevinchannel7589]

"But still", my ass. It might work, but it does not solve the problem. "But still" is used way too much in this video. The problem is still not solved and keeping things alive to have them be killed later for no real reason is still bad. ALSO: Wanna bet how long it takes for the Ruthless Hunters to get smarter?? What if they, i dont' know, create an Academy for Ruthless Hunters? -That might sound like a joke at first, but think about it.

[@Agent_Matt_6]

Aye 69th like

[@Two-for-One_half-off]

Slevin Channel Are you...are you literally just copy+pasting this response? I’ve seen at least one just like this.

[@jeremiahpurba3882]

3:01 Herding. Proctecting the many in the expense of the few

[@greenfrogcottage6505]

Like it showed near the beginning of the video, they usually only allow ruthless, ill or both animals to gain money. Basically, animals that could potentially harm others. This saves other animals as well.

[@michaelmclaughlin261]

...and when those trophy hunters make their kill, other than some photos they don't do anything with the carcass (they often can't due to customs regulations) so the meat and hides get distributed to locals for food and use by the game wardens overseeing the hunt. So they paid big bucks to preserve an endangered animal, and fed some locals...a win/win.

[@Nafke]

I'm starting to think they should be able to claim the whole adventure as a charity tax credit!

[@karinefonte516]

This, IF the trophy hunter doesn't decide to go on illegal huntings with irregular local guides...

[@justinnguyen2605]

Michael McLaughlin they forgot the fact that some of the animals that are hunted are older and more violent, often killing and raping the younger ones.

[@ghozisyaifullah254]

Tusk,horn,Skull,hide,teeth,claw,skin etc all goes to taxidermy and Hunter Walls while meat goes to local stomach

[@joshpearson2928]

"I hate that anyone would kill an animal" I wonder how many spiders she's killed.

[@unoriginal_name4576]

spiders are way different from things like rhinos :/, but it's true that a lot of "animal lovers" only care about the cute animals

[@joshpearson2928]

Its just the whole cute animal bias that makes me mad. Like "Ohh don't kill cute rhinos and lions" but they probably don't care about warthogs.

[@MysteryMachineX]

Very true. And you know what? Bugs are animals! They're in the Animalia Kingdom!

[@LightningIzzy]

People kill bugs because there are a fuckton of them and they can be pretty annoying for the most part. Also, it's pretty easy to step on a bug without even realising it. There's some cute bias, sure, but it's more about the quantity of the animal: no matter how many bugs you kill there's still gonna be billions, the same thing happens in places where rabbits are overpopulated, people just kill lots of them

[@jasondarcey328]

Not me if I see a bug I leave it the fuq alone. My caring for living things basically ends at plants and bacteria.

[@sabotage7369]

5:07 applied to really anything is such a powerful statement

[@jarredpossum7725]

I take it back. I see the point of this, and this is an extremely common practice, like how hunting license sales can help fund wildlife reserves, and the system works...until it doesn’t. When an animals population becomes so critically low, that every death is visible, trophy hunting can do more damage than good. But for the most part, this can help smallish populations get larger.

[@Whimsy3692]

I clicked on this video because I'm open-minded. I thought really hard and long about this video. The longer conservations help trophy hunters get what they want, the more rich people will start thinking trophy hunting is totally okay. In 2021, there were 56 million people worldwide whose assets were over 1 million US dollars (where 40% of them lived in the United States). To put it simply, if every millionaire in JUST the U.S. decided to pick up trophy hunting as their new past time, the 5,000 rhinos left are screwed. There's always going to be rich people, coming up into the world, decades and decades later. But there's not always going to be a population of 5,000 rhinos. All this does, is *slow* the progression of eventual extinction. Which is admirable, I guess... instead of *not* funding conservations. More needs to be done to actually stop this. Slowing it and stopping it is the difference.

[@alenfishman9365]

All these people appalled at animal hunting and killing whole ripping through burgers.

[@reeganriddiford9947]

True. You never see a vegan complaining about this.

[@MrCrashDavi]

ikr.

[@Ptoelmy49]

I have, a few actually, they also don't seem to know about land carrying capacities. Not understanding that permits in the developed countries like the USA and Australia, are to cull a specific number of animals that the local ecosystem can not support.

[@theTOOLshed1]

You're right. They're too busy telling people that they're vegans to begin with LOL

[@kisatorimuru6627]

Cows aren't exactly endangered though.

[@notthesoap6156]

Woah an argumentative video on KZbin that uses facts and statistics instead of sjw emotional rhetoric? That's awesome.

[@Dmdm_dm]

what facts and statistics you idiot? where the fuck are the reliable sources that prove this? Fucking gullible morons everywhere

[@ariak9858]

+Dionys84 the sources are in the top right of the video

[@Dmdm_dm]

Not The Soap as if those fucks can't falsify data and statistics to push their agenda. Fucking gullible moron as I said...

[@Hitsyfication]

It's better than having *no* data at all, and arguing based on what triggers you and your delicate sensibilities.

[@fisherman142]

Dionys84 you must be the woman in the video.

[@nobody9729]

veronica: why do we kill animals also veronica: eats animals for dinner

[@sukuntee]

Thats a humorous way to put it. Thanks.

[@geraldmerkowitz4360]

Remember that poachers also kill humans ! Not for the meat or ressources of course. Like any criminal, they cheerfully kill everyone that try to stop them, and the death toll is huge

[@WardNightstone]

TL;DR Spock was right the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one or how they said it in Wanted: Kill one save a thousand

[@tichepotato7992]

My thoughts on it as well.

[@AngleCS]

i disagree, the species doesn't ''need'' to exist, none of them care about the prolonging of their species. they do however care about fear and pain. the only ones wanting theyre species to not die out are humans. so to appease our desire to animals, it somehow becomes acceptable for us to kill a few, to ensure there are more...? if i wanted to kill you so that there are more supplies for the future generations (assume there is, as i know this is not the case) would you agree to die, because the needs of the many outweigh the few???

[@meyergulledge]

I'm not a rhino.

[@rageoftyrael]

David Orson - of course no one would agree to that. We don't want to die. Interestingly though, are you suggesting you have the slightest clue how animals feel? About anything? I mean, it would be a faux pas to pretend you understood what a woman thought, but you have no problem claiming to know how an animal feels? We as humans are doing our best(sometimes) to keep animal species alive and sometimes we have to kill a few to save many. Your argument is bad because it does nothing but appeal to emotion and completely ignores logic. I should say though.... are you really fucking arguing that animals, if they had the intellect to argue this point, would choose species extinction over a select few dying? You are literally a fucking imbecile for this argument. I tried, so very hard, to not be an asshole to you, but jesus fucking christ are you stupid. Seriously.... shut the fuck up, you fucking moron.

[@Zhuanghui]

+David Orson "none of them care about the prolonging of their species" -_-, Man you need to do your research before spitting out random crap. If "none of them care about the prolonging of their species" then no animals would be alive today. It's because they "care" about surviving is why there is such a variety of animals (as well as plants, etc.).

[@Brick_Eater_]

1:51 I love how he says "and even hangovers" like it's more believable that rhino horn can cure cancer.

[@kellychuang8373]

Good episode on that one and here's some ideas that you can look into and might give a whirl Banks, Credit Cards and hostile architecture if your still looking into some episode ideas Adam. Those things can be really shifty in these topics.

[@blocktopic]

I'm sure I'll be watching this video at my next dentist appointment

[@retlocpeck325]

yikes bad joke and good joke

[@BungerBugSnax]

If I remember correctly, he actually didn't even have a permit to kill the lion, and did it illegally.

[@locusarete3499]

oh

[@cwiz.]

At tooth:hurty?

[@tombirmingham7033]

he was a poacher and didn't go through proper channels. Guy is a criminal.

[@johnkent1629]

Breed my little money bags BREED.

[@MoonPatch]

He said breed? I thought he said breathe Now that I think about it breed makes more sense

[@nolanbell1681]

I am going to trip hey hunt Adam ...’s turtles

[@Mega-nk2tv]

Nolan Bell I thought he said greed

[@spurdo-benisbrigade3203]

Jay Kay Da great Jewish tricks

[@saucegod7260]

Crimson assassin I'll put captions on

[@judemorris-jones2367]

I live in South Africa and iv been to many of these conservation places its really insightful...

[@mypkamax]

"Adam Ruins Everything"? Should be called "Adam Debunks Everything"!

[@zxyAprte124]

Less catchy

[@animalpeople9162]

Adam is usually good at issuing challenges to conventional wisdom, but often he fails to consider rebuttals or counterarguments. In this case, what he's arguing for isn't even "unconventional," as legal trophy hunting is a common strategy for conservation groups and was even foundational to many older organizations' original intent. He's actually siding with the status quo here, and fails to consider that: A.) Ethically speaking, the efficacy of hunting to generate revenue for conservation doesn't justify it in terms of individual animals' welfare. Conservation and animal rights are often conflated in the public eye, but there are major philosophical differences between the two movements, the former's focus on species and populations and the latter's emphasis on individual well-being being the most basic. If one believes individual animals' lives have value, then raising conservation revenue by selling hunting permits cannot be justified, any more than an orphanage would be justified in selling child slaves as a fundraiser. B.) Legal hunting can itself encourage poaching in a number of ways: * Encouraging perceptions of trophy hunting or wildlife products as luxuries in the public eye, thereby increasing demand for wild animals' products or the opportunity to hunt them beyond what the legal market can supply, * Providing cover for smugglers to traffic illegal products under the guise of legal ones, using fake documentation, * Exacerbating social inequities between wealthy foreigners and impoverished locals, leading to poaching out of economic desperation, * Sewing resentment over the double standard that allows rich foreigners to kill animals while locals are punished for doing the same, sometimes leading hired guards to secretly allow or even collaborate with poachers as an act of political resistance. Ofir Drori, the founder of the African conservation group EAGLE (Eco Activists for Governance and Legal Enforcement), addresses similar objections (both pragmatic and ethical) to the related issue of conservationists attempting to raise funds by selling ivory, in his article "Why We Should Not Sell Seized Ivory Stocks. Ever." He also offers a far superior approach to saving wildlife that doesn't require sacrificing them to trophy hunters, described in "Wildlife Protection - Fighting Back Harder."

[@KaitoGillscale]

No one said his argument was perfect. He's merely validating an argument many disagrees with.

[@dhsnakes1605]

+

[@iPh03n]

+Animal People You have great points. Perhaps, though, if conservation groups' funding/focus was directed more towards legitimizing the "Legal Hunting" side of it, more effort could be spent to combat the poaching, which would happen with or without the legal hunting present. And as +The Flying Sphagetti Monster said, it's working. As in, the populations are stably increasing. For now. I disagree with your ethical part, though. One doesn't have to believe that an individual animal has such immense value in order to believe in conservation. In other words, conservation groups don't have to be animal welfare groups. This is where it gets important. Conservation groups are imperative to preserving the planet's resources, and they have to start now, not 10 years from now, because the animals they are talking about could all be dead by then. That's why their strategies have to take in mind the people involved in the area - they have to be plausible. Welfare groups, on the other hand, have a moral agenda. And while they believe that any animal suffering is wrong, they can feasibly take their time about it. After all, no dire consequence happens should they not achieve their goal in that 10 years. The movement can still go on. Because of that difference, the conservation group would, to use your analogy, decide to "sell the child slaves" to "save the orphanage," even if the animal welfare group would not.

[@badflamer]

ahh ethics, that most wonderful of words to throw around when you want to say 'this makes me feel bad' but realize on some level that that won't be accepted as an actual argument. Much similar to the appeal to nature as a fallacy.

[@kaein2973]

Sooo how are you gonna fund conservation then? Cause i am pretty much not gonna donate since i literally gives not fucks. All ethics aside it works and it doesnt have any other solution.

[@sammystank7174]

I was taking a shit when I got a notification for this

[@formlessneptune3209]

I was throwing up when I got a notice from this

[@dropout]

You should probably wash your phone or something.

[@formlessneptune3209]

yeah, it didn't get on my phone though, I was getting water then ran to the bathroom where I threw up

[@formlessneptune3209]

why am I telling about this?

[@Pistolita221]

perfect timing :D

[@sharpshooter13ify]

“Breed my little money bags, breed!” ROTFL

[@Stephanie56372]

I’d pay to watch hunters catch poachers

[@TepFilms]

How much? Put a hit out

[@ghozisyaifullah254]

You know Ivan Carter ? He is Hunter and he work at anti poaching unit

[@sachinraghavan4556]

@@ghozisyaifullah254 When murderers arbitrarily hate other murderers.

[@ghozisyaifullah254]

@@sachinraghavan4556 ok retards

[@greenllama2856]

Sees the title, Me: oh boy this better be good. Also Peta liked this.

[@andrewoxford1322]

Random Otaku no, they wouldn’t. They don’t care about the facts

[@elite4702]

Andrew Oxford Yeah

[@PaintedDog]

Andrew Oxford I’m sure most of the members of PETA do care about facts. Unfortunately, it’s the crazies we usually hear about because they are usually the loudest and most entertaining. The media (news included) want people to watch, listen, and/or read their stories, so the crazy PETA member are what people see. So this makes people view organizations like PETA negatively and as a big joke. PETA stands for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. They just want animals to be treated better, and that is an awesome cause. But the crazies give them a bad name. I’ll bet most PETA member are normal people that just want to help animals. Unfortunately, people only hear about the crazy members, who are most likely a very small fraction of the total number of members. Most, if not all organizations have crazy people as members. So because the media wants people to watch, read, or listen to them, they are gonna report on and write about the entertaining crazy PETA people instead of normal, boring PETA people.

[@tamil8108]

Peta liking anything is like an oxymoron. They hurt the cause just so they can make spectacle and gain for themselves.

[@tamil8108]

@@PaintedDog That goes with most organizations. I will look it up later, but I am sure there are smaller grassroots organizations that do a better job.

[@juandiegoprado]

There is no price that can justify the death of Harambe :(

[@Mr1worldin]

He died for our sins ;-;

[@flemes9615]

how about 20,000 dollars

[@PrashantYadavSkywalker]

jesus returned as Harambe, and this time we shot him :(

[@jest7102]

I'm gonna slit my throat, and with my last dying breath write "Harambe sux dix" In my own blood. Fuck these memes.

[@jesse3311]

There is one. Think of it this way, if Harambe didn't die, you would never know who Harambe is, his existence would never be appreciated by the world. What do you value more, Harambe? Or the idea of Harambe?

[@Davis...]

I like how the lion eats the kid casually and the dad is just Hey!

[@anotherskyofours]

3:56 Adam: Veronica I understand that this is hard to believe, I had a tough time with it too Me: A likely story adam

[@keenanmeyer5511]

Adam turned into rare Pepe, All Hail Rare Adam.

[@noahchats2064]

Keenan Meyer day Boi Adam

[@ashleyshim2078]

Keenan Meyer Lmao

[@awfullygenericname6783]

DigitalNinja ZA Dat Pepe Adam Plz tell me that I made a new meme

[@parkeristrans6090]

phung tran Your wish shall come true. USING MY MS PAINT MAGIC!

[@hhhwhat9472]

Keenan Meyer ...

[@MattHawkesPurdy]

Pepe ruins everything

[@deadasfak]

He's basicly the Donald Trump Pepe

[@benjaminrei1319]

Pepe ruins everything

[@anonymoususer3561]

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[@rose-em4un]

I was looking for this comment.

[@HarmonicVector]

He needs to do the pepe face.

[@mikopolaruso1525]

2:41 actually that is a super normal thing that rhinos do because they're super agressive and territorial and they're as smart as sheep, and have awful vision due to their stupidity it's rather hard for them to differ friend from foe.(and their testotoron levels)

[@cloakss]

This could all be solved if we had paid attention when the teacher was reading a most dangerous game in English class

[@helpmii215]

Ahh yes that book no one cares about but we still have to read

[@lisacox3750]

lemons...it's actually a good story. I still remember it from over 20 years ago. The older you get the more accurate it becomes.

[@cloakss]

Lisa Cox so the older you get the more people you hunt?

[@SeanKuder]

YES! Someone finally made that reference, and for you, you get a sub

[@cloakss]

@@SeanKuder :)

[@brycevo]

Let people pay for the privilege to hunt animals to give the money to preserve other animals and help the locals. This sounds like a win win.

[@deathdragon2283]

Bryce McKenzie and they’re usually only allowed to hunt specific animals that can’t breed or are dangerous to others and the surrounding locals

[@chrishubbard64]

Deathdragon is exactly right. They dont get to just go out and shoot the first lion or whatever they see, they are guided to the specific lion thats been murdering its fellows and is sick or too old to breed and told to kill that one.

[@koichidignitythief7429]

@@ChuckieOutdoors Can you stop copy pasting the same comment?

[@kaylaaf468]

Except it doesn't actually happen that way

[@madhavilanka7787]

"I see this as an absolute win!"

[@johannes-7710]

so to conclude: we shouldn't ban shooting animals. We should ban illegal shooting of animals?!

[@coldchameleon3213]

Yeah, pretty much

[@johnsontheguy5177]

No. You have to pay to kill a animal, if you don't then it is illegal.

[@BobBob-ui6ot]

How can you ban illegal shooting of animals? It's the ban that makes it illegal in the first place.

[@khanbw]

^

[@cjcollan4689]

Yeah because that's how Cecil the lion got killed (And probably our Lord and saviour)

[@traditionalreturn3954]

There's nuance to every issue.

[@premmeyyappan1117]

Right but trophy hunting is only effective when managed properly. In places like Namibia, it’s worked out, and I’m totally in support of that, but corruption is rampant in other parts of africa, and ninety percent of the money isn’t used to help animals.

[@zxyAprte124]

Um where did you get that info

[@MsNessbit]

@@zxyAprte124 His ass