Why Vader ONLY Turned When Palpatine Attacked Luke (CANON & LEGENDS)

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7 күн бұрын

Breaking down Darth Vader's thoughts as he saved Luke from Palpatine's Force lightning and became Anakin Skywalker again, and why that was the only thing that could get him to turn back to the light!
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@diablofiend1976
@diablofiend1976 5 күн бұрын
Once vader found out luke was his son, he never intended on killing him
@cliffordfernandez3524
@cliffordfernandez3524 5 күн бұрын
No Only turning him n overthrowing sidious How sidious didn’t Forsee this Star Wars is full of plot holes But we over look that with a good story
@ParadoxicalEnigma300
@ParadoxicalEnigma300 5 күн бұрын
Literally stated to be fine with killing Luke in the ROTJ Novel but Alr
@robertdenicola6409
@robertdenicola6409 Күн бұрын
@@diablofiend1976 pretty sure you must be right about that cutting off his limbs however is a very different story lmao
@imonit4272
@imonit4272 5 күн бұрын
I was there in 1983…opening night. Stood in a line that went around the block and had to let my sister sit on my lap. The whole theater erupted in cheers and applause when Vader snatched The Emperor’s ass up. It was awesome!
@lordmaul3
@lordmaul3 5 күн бұрын
People cheering and applauding in the theatre was the same reaction I witnessed when Vader yeeted the Emperor down the core shaft. I just wished George Lucas added the finally words between Vader and Sidious like they did in the radio adaptation. You can find this word for word on KZbin
@jeffreyconner2937
@jeffreyconner2937 5 күн бұрын
Yet back then people didn't know what he was like before he became Vader.
@haroldchase4120
@haroldchase4120 5 күн бұрын
Let’s see he is vaders son . His son believes in him just as his beloved wife did. He was never going to mess up again and lose his last piece of his wife
@diablofiend1976
@diablofiend1976 5 күн бұрын
Vader saying noo is so unnecessary for the scene where he kills the original Palpatine
@WhydoIsuddenlyhaveahandle
@WhydoIsuddenlyhaveahandle 5 күн бұрын
Agreed. It is way better silent. I strongly dislike how they changed it
@diablofiend1976
@diablofiend1976 5 күн бұрын
@@WhydoIsuddenlyhaveahandle possibly the only change Lucas made that I disagree with
@TYKZY.BRANX._TEEK.SEE.BRANCH.
@TYKZY.BRANX._TEEK.SEE.BRANCH. 5 күн бұрын
i LiKE THE "NOOOO !", HELPZ WiTH THE ETHEREAL WRATH ! [NOT YELLiNG, JUZT LiKE TYPiNG iN CAPZ]
@lordmaul3
@lordmaul3 5 күн бұрын
In the radio dramatization of the movie you can hear Vader's last words to Sidious before yeeting him down the core shaft. I think it would've been cool to hear that dialogue in the movie.
@TYKZY.BRANX._TEEK.SEE.BRANCH.
@TYKZY.BRANX._TEEK.SEE.BRANCH. 5 күн бұрын
@@lordmaul3 WHAT WERE THEY ?
@anime_world6684
@anime_world6684 5 күн бұрын
vader was conflicted the moment he heard luke's true name and got even worse meeting sabe and even worse reuniting with luke again
@bigaberg
@bigaberg 5 күн бұрын
I’m glad Vader or should I say Anakin finally came 2 his senses. After over 2 decades of being Darth Vader; he finally realized in the last moments of his life; he finally saved his son.
@jeffreyconner2937
@jeffreyconner2937 5 күн бұрын
@@bigaberg It still didn't make up for the atrocities that he committed.
@bigaberg
@bigaberg 4 күн бұрын
@@jeffreyconner2937 maybe. But; Anakin was lost. Besides; u sound just like my current friendenemy rite now. Lead alone; who also snitched on me after the Super Bowl & the kc shooting.
@mccpcorn2000
@mccpcorn2000 5 күн бұрын
It's like poetry, it rhymes....
@razzelnuts
@razzelnuts 5 күн бұрын
This was a great video with so many good points. It makes me wish Star Wars ended at 6.
@EST-kg4cs
@EST-kg4cs 5 күн бұрын
In other words blood is thicker than water
@educationiskey3331
@educationiskey3331 5 күн бұрын
I hated when Vader died. The only sith that had a change of heart.
@seshtimetv4178
@seshtimetv4178 5 күн бұрын
@@educationiskey3331 you must of forgot revan, and many others
@beentheredonethat5908
@beentheredonethat5908 5 күн бұрын
Many sith changed , some changed back and forth many times. There was actually a sith that caused no harm lol
@mattoverbee7632
@mattoverbee7632 5 күн бұрын
In Luke he sees Padme and while he couldn’t save her before he was able to save what was left of her in Luke.
@user-vb5tq2kv1q
@user-vb5tq2kv1q 5 күн бұрын
Anakin and Luke Skywalker will always be the heart of Star Wars, Disney Star Wars is just a bad dream
@ozmozis6073
@ozmozis6073 5 күн бұрын
Anakin needed someone to back him. The last person to do that Ashoka, followed by Qui-Gon and his mother. Padme naturally. Luke picked his side and he could feel the love in that decision. I always contend that Kenobi never really wanted Anakin as a padawan - it was a legacy decision, as requested by Qui-Gon and not something he wanted. All Anakin needed to do was think of Luke's actions and it wasn't a huge leap to make. He was tired of Palpatine and his bio-suit. His desire for ruling the galaxy was over.
@nicholassmither1804
@nicholassmither1804 5 күн бұрын
I bet his dead wife is proud of Anakin
@diablofiend1976
@diablofiend1976 5 күн бұрын
This should be fairly obvious. Vader always loved his son and he didnt know about leia before the final battle
@Supershadgers
@Supershadgers 5 күн бұрын
Palpatine heard the talk abt his sister liea palpatine was scared that 3 skywalker s are a alive and if Vader was to get liea they all would be a good threat to his rule
@peterwilson2107
@peterwilson2107 5 күн бұрын
Great videos, man! I keep coming back! Love your Star Wars stories and content! 🤙🤙🤙
@RetneysHolocron
@RetneysHolocron 5 күн бұрын
Thanks a ton!
@tareknader4100
@tareknader4100 4 күн бұрын
❤ I loved this video ❤️this was powerful emotional. Thank you.Thank you for this.
@redwarrior9663
@redwarrior9663 7 күн бұрын
Great video brother
@Tuturial464
@Tuturial464 5 күн бұрын
I wouldn't say it is selfishness, but a desire to protect
@psychedelicartistry
@psychedelicartistry 5 күн бұрын
Whats the name of the OST in this video? It's really good!! It makes me want to watch more of your videos tbh.
@diablofiend1976
@diablofiend1976 5 күн бұрын
Being a jedi is tough. All the restrictions needed are a bit much. When loved ones pass, we cant mourn them or miss them.
@nathantroxel
@nathantroxel 5 күн бұрын
Great video, i love star wars lore.And new, to the channel.
@RetneysHolocron
@RetneysHolocron 5 күн бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@Nyehhhhhh
@Nyehhhhhh 5 күн бұрын
MY BABY BOY!!!!!
@BobbyMoore2-mp8wb
@BobbyMoore2-mp8wb 5 күн бұрын
Vader was powerful in the Force
@NinjaVestos
@NinjaVestos 5 күн бұрын
But then somehow Palpatine returned
@JerginBootwyler
@JerginBootwyler 5 күн бұрын
I like how you call him vader for most of the first part but when it gets to him saving his son you cal him anakin (around the 4 min mark is what I'm talking about)
@bry4christ2nda25
@bry4christ2nda25 3 күн бұрын
Don’t forget that during all of this Anakin was also grieving the loss of Ashoka and had yet another reason for hating the Jedi council for how they betrayed her.
@short11000
@short11000 5 күн бұрын
Great! 😊👍
@jeremymiller6933
@jeremymiller6933 4 күн бұрын
If anyone noticed, Vader was already searching for Luke before finding him on Hoth. When chasing the Falcon, the Emperor then comes to him about Luke. Vader was a step ahead. He wanted that relationship in the twisted way of Sith Master/Apprentice at first because that's who he was at the time. Until he heard Luke's name after Yavin, Vader was someone who fed on his negative emotions that he killed his wife and baby on Mustafar. That glimmer of hope awoke Anakin. When Vader told Luke that he didn’t know the power of the dark side, I think he was talking about his fear of Palpatine's power and that he felt he had no choice but to be his slave. I don’t think Vader wanted to bring Luke to him in shackles or encased in Carbonite. He knew that he would be pit against his son in a death match to keep his job. When Luke surged with dark side fury, I always thought Vader allowed himself to fall to sacrifice himself because killing Luke as full Sith or conflicted wasn't going to happen. When Luke pulled back to the light and defied Palpatine, it was a shock to him. No pun intended. It awoke Anakin entirely. As far as the novels, comics, Disney, legends, etc. material is concerned, it is all fanfiction to me. It was written by other people outside of the actual writing team and is their opinion of the source material, all after the fact. There’s nothing wrong with that, but opinions are what they are. You can ask a million Star Wars fans and get a million different answers. Thanks for reading.
@ryanm666
@ryanm666 2 күн бұрын
I think too it was a combination of this and the fact that palpatine betrayed vader moments before in asking Luke to kill vader and take his place. This may have also have prompted vader to betray the emperor
@7timecenturycyclistvespada982
@7timecenturycyclistvespada982 5 күн бұрын
The reason he attacked the emperor was because… it’s what the script called for.. DUH!!!
@browntiger7776
@browntiger7776 5 күн бұрын
I love the originals and the prequels but I hate hearing that Noooooo in Return Of The Jedi!😩😂🤣
@jDiddyi
@jDiddyi 5 күн бұрын
Even if Vader truly fought his son with winning intent, it was not at full power. Even the current canon makes it a point to illustrate that Vader becomes significantly weaker and less consistent when his mind is not "clear on the matter". It is by far his biggest weakness as a sith.
@jeffreyconner2937
@jeffreyconner2937 5 күн бұрын
Anakin/ Vader caused a lot of harm still to family members. In the real world anyone who commits genocide is beyond redemption.
@chewher4171
@chewher4171 5 күн бұрын
He didn't do it for the force, he did it as a father. He fell due to his love and attachments, yet he was redeemed through it as well. Then came the Woke days of Disney. Like Vader, we must train ourselves to let StarWars go and transcend so to speak, into the power of one, two, maaaaannnnnnnny.
@CaptainFantastik1
@CaptainFantastik1 5 күн бұрын
Let me guess.......everything in life you don't like is "woke".
@truesoulghost2777
@truesoulghost2777 3 күн бұрын
Yeah well i wont be scissoring but i might watch
@cliffordfernandez3524
@cliffordfernandez3524 5 күн бұрын
What kills me No way Vader losers to Luke Hkw is a guy who trained for a few years Beat a Jedi, a Sith so powerful Plot holes lol
@CaptainFantastik1
@CaptainFantastik1 5 күн бұрын
I'm sorry but i've always had a problem with the idea that Anakin is "redeemed" after one self serving decision to save his own kid's life.........after helping murder billions of other beings' children during his reign of terror. It's a ridiculous concept.
@Walid-mk4jo
@Walid-mk4jo 3 күн бұрын
Well I mean he did kill Palpatine so..
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