Why Vets Don't Like Raw Diets

[@Swaggdub]

my vet sells raw food in their office! not all vets are against raw but most of them are

[@charliethecairnterrier]

mine does too!

[@PawsofPrey]

That's great!!

[@squishy321]

Same here! I'm super glad about it

[@wavyybased1820]

That’s awesome. The vets I work under don’t approve of it. I am making the switch for my pups.

[@Iris-lk9ig]

Mine has 2 large freezers of raw dog & cat food

[@adhikahartanto4302]

There is so many vets always suggest a kibbles or can food to feed your pets

[@PawsofPrey]

It's true! It's just the safezone for them.

[@serginaru]

It's true! It just make sense.

[@teddy2979]

@@PawsofPrey and money-making because the pets get stick and they come to the vet more often...lol

[@teddy2979]

@Zoran Grlic Okay, Zoran, I will give you this. There's no mass study that vets are consciously trying to poison pets with kibble for the sake of business, but do please consider the following: a) Majority of vets get very LITTLE nutrition training, and as much as 80% of are sponsored by Pet Food companies, with the science being backed by self-funded, not 3rd party tested studies. The only thing pet food companies have proven is that pets can survive, not thrive, on kibble, that's it. They are in the same corner as raw feeders. Now this does not mean the average Joe knows more about the average vet, of course. b) the NRC, where AAFCO bases it's "science" concludes need ZERO - ZERO - carbs to survive. This alone should SAY a lot on the biological needs of dog; c) dogs are classified as carnivores by Taxonomists (if a vet says otherwise, go tell them to argue with Smithsonian Institute that study this for a living; and d) majority of the longest living dogs in the planet (go to Thomas Sandberg's Longest Living Dog Research Project are almost all raw fed. Yes, there are other factors that contribute to longetivity from genetics, products used on them, supplementation, etc., but if you really want to learn about kibble in general no one else will know better about the scrupulous practices of the kibble industry more than Pet consumer advocate Susan Thixon who has dealt with Pet Food companies, AAFCO and the FDA. Now, if someone does not know how to raw feed, then they are definitely better off to feed the highest quality kibble. and there are some dry food that is better than others; freeze dried being superior to any kibble, and more animal, minimally processed better than the rest. I will ignore the fact that you compared me to a conspiracy theorist if you can forgive me for makin a general assumption about all vets (although I have met some that sell dog food in their stores ---clear conflict of interest in my opinion but that's another story. I have been researching raw food for the last 20 years, thank you. Yes, many are anectdotal, but I can tell you for a fact that kibble and dry food has killed FAR MORE than raw diets for pets. It does not even compare. Raw feeding needs people to be educated about a balanced diet but you know what, so do pet owners who blindly trust kibble companies or just because "their vet recommended itl"

[@elenadejesus7489]

Feeding your dog kibble or can't does not matter what's the top of the line canned or kibble none of it is good for dogs or cats

[@candicekeene2540]

These are some great points brought up and re-learning how to feed raw is important. The part I find funny in any video covering this topic is the handling of raw meat, but it's also getting me to think that many no longer have practical kitchen skills if this keeps coming up as a topic.

[@curstinw6420]

Yea but even in human food there will be recalls on meats or vegetables sometimes or fast food chains will have an outbreak

[@TazHall]

No one really takes home economics in school anymore I guess.

[@weewhitedug5082]

When I told my holistic vet about wanting to feed my puppy a raw diet, he warned me about potentially feeding an unbalanced diet. Shortly after, I came across videos by Dr. Karen Becker and her recipes for a well balanced diet. Dogs need a protein rich, moisture rich diet to thrive. For example: 2 lb ground beef, 1.5 lb ground chicken wings, 1 oz beef liver, 1 oz spinach, 1 oz sweet peppers, 1 oz blueberries, .5 tsp basil and .5 tsp ginger. Sometimes he eats better than I do. LOL

[@MrUltimaPro]

My dog eats better than I do daily .... Similar to you dashhound 230gram of mixed meat but I've got dark berrys fruits dark veggies and fermented yhoghurt and she gets cucumber snacks and 3 other herbs that I have in tubs specially for dogs that she gets a spoonful out of each 😂

[@DavidSanchez-vm2ck]

I went to vet school and feeding the raw diet is the way to go. All of my books that had to do with nutrition were written by the companies themselves. And these studies are done with the expectation that the companies use properly sourced meats which they absolutely don’t.

[@tashm470]

The raw food companies wrote the books or the kibble companies?

[@codenameuniccorn2412]

Your correct.. things are corrupt in this world

[@horsegirlb7120]

That doesn't mean raw is the way to go. Why not just cook the meat? Much safer, same balanced nutrients.

[@samjackson1895]

As someone working in a clinic, the biggest question I have about raw diets is this: do raw diets help manage chronic health problems in pets? The vast majority of the kibble and canned foods we have are designed for managing health problems such as GI sensitivity, diabetes, urinary issues, and kidney support. My clinic works with cats primarily, so I've seen a number of blocked cats recover from crystals with supportive care and a urinary diet designed to break down the crystals. That being said, I'm curious as to whether a raw diet could accomplish the same since many blocked cats become blocked from eating bad kibbles like Friskies.

[@PawsofPrey]

Hi! I do go over this in other videos, but yes it not only facilitates certain health issues (for instance, UTD - because of the high moisture content, cats are less likely to develop urinary crystals. Their body is no longer in a constant state of acute dehydration, and their urine is less concentrated.) But, it helps prevent certain health issues from even occuring (for instance, kidney disease) if you're interested, these are the videos I go over this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pn7EoqWhe9GrhdU | kzbin.info/www/bejne/jX2yfaCnh7yWjdU | kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2nWk2OBoLikrqc

[@dinouwu6436]

Watching this at 2am… I don’t even have cats, but hey its great to know :3 meow

[@ievalibeka8171]

I dare say, a lot depends of how reliably one can get fresh, good quality meat and offal in their area. Wasn't a problem when I lived in larger cities with good meat markets in Latvia, have had unpleasant surprizes when buying human food intended raw meat in UK . Also, vets probably encounter enough people who simply are too careless to do raw feeding properly, and that might skew their opinion against raw feeding for the average pet and owner.

[@codenameuniccorn2412]

There are many balanced raw diet companies now a days

[@lethe.archive]

thank you for the video. im still pretty unconvinced that there is a marked difference between high quality wet and raw but i am at least interested including raw bones in my cat’s diet

[@metalcatmom5891]

I feed mostly raw. I always add in supplements and a bit of premium wet cat food just to be sure I have everything covered (3oz of canned for every 8-12oz of raw). I use quality kibble as treats and occasionally as a topper just to keep things interesting and ensure if something happens to me, the cats will eat whatever they have to until I can return.

[@cobykonneor]

My dog is allergic to meat proteins. We tried all kinds of diets through our vets. Grain free, chicken free, duck, turkey, beef, rabbit, kangaroo, and raw. None of which he did well on. Eventually he was recommended a vegan diet and is now 14 years old and doing great. So many people attack us for feeding him vegan even though his vet recommended it. Some dogs do well on it. Not all dogs can thrive on the same diets. Commercial or raw- many dogs with severe allergies can't do either.

[@raeallen8387]

My cat rips out the still beating heart and internal organs of birds, vermin, baby squirrels and once upon a time they dragged home a FULL CHICKEN and plucked it naked through out my house and left it half eaten and still warm on my lounge table. If that's not Raw idk what is, and if they go do that of their own accord instead of going to the food bowl for kibble then surely it'd be more within their food pallet

[@ComedyLoverGirl]

Cats and dogs do have hunting instinct, but that doesn’t mean the food is necessarily good for them. Dogs and cats in the wild live much shorter lives than those who live on a farm and eat a kibble and home cooked diet. They’re just evolved to still have hunting instincts because that’s what they had to do in the wild.

[@kristen1463]

Keep your cat indoors unless you are ready to loose it. A chicken killing cat is a dead cat to most poultry owners. Plus they spread all sort of disease to humans.

[@ttthewolfgirl]

@@kristen1463 Along with the risks of your cat getting hurt, killed or lost >~< It’s best to keep your cat indoors or if you still want them to get fresh air, get a cat harness and leash or a cat condo

[@PawsofPrey]

Wow!

[@auguststudios]

Keep your cat inside.

[@luciusmaximus1169]

My vet used to advise against raw until he saw how much better my dog did on raw compared to kibble.

[@PawsofPrey]

That's the best thing ever! Proof is the best way to change someones view.

[@serginaru]

yeah but not all kibbles are the same so? Also raw diets aren't standardized, so this argument its very weak...................

[@luciusmaximus1169]

@@serginaru it took us six months or trying many different kibbles to realise they just didn't work for him. The minute he was on raw he was so much better, no upset stomach which by the way for him can be life threatening so I'm glad I made the change. I don't really care if this argument is weak because I'm not saying people need to feed raw it just it works for my dog way better than any kibble ever did.

[@Ahlnie]

So the discussion is about raw vs kibble, but why not cook the food to remove contamination? Is it too much effort? I mean, beef and chicken are mostly fine because they have no nasty parasites, but fish and pork do, and dogs are every bit as susceptible as people. And for another thing, while the dogs are equipped to handle salmonella, people aren't, and when they eat raw, their mouth gets the bacteria, which can then spread to any surface they sniff or lick.

[@rometimed1382]

Took our puppy to our closest vet today. We are feeding 50/50 raw and breeder prescribed kibble and dog is doing great. Vet was aghast by the idea of raw diet... but the conversation was very odd... Me: "We are feeding 50/50 raw and kibble right now" Vet: "Oh the raw diet is a trend and puppies cant get proper nutrients without large breed puppy kibble" Me: "Oh but I try to balance the nutrients and he seems to love it" Vet: "Ya people online say the wolfs always ate raw but if you make curry the wolves drop the raw food and go to the cooked food" Me: "... Ok? But why kibble then? My dog does not prefer kibble" Vet: "But it has the most precise nutrients" ...

[@johnnopeyy4129]

Of course wolves go for the cooked food, it's new and wolves are curious. Your vet is not thinking. 😂

[@FitHitTheShan]

I was surprised to hear that my vet feeds her dog the same raw food that I feed my pets. My pets have been eating PRIMAL raw food for years. I’ve seen many benefits and improvements

[@PawsofPrey]

It's always great to have a vet thats on board!

[@katerina6417]

Yay! I feed my kitty Primal for years now too! Absolutely love the brand and love that the vitamins are actually from plants and veggies :)

[@FitHitTheShan]

@@katerina6417 🤗

[@mrkarterhuh9830]

Aren't the nutrients cooked out of kibble?

[@AGarc997]

I have a 1 yr and a half old English Bulldog, Augustus. I started Augustus on The Honest Kitchen puppy clusters at 2 months old. Augustus did great. At 5 months old, I switched Augustus to Orijen puppy. Again, Augustus did great on the puppy food. There were times he’d get sick and throw up in the middle of the night but I continued with the food nonetheless. At 1 year old, I took Augustus on a 20 mins walk around 9PM; it was a humid summer night in Dallas, TX. The following morning, I woke up to two mountains of throw up. Augustus had no energy and was really not feeling good; therefore, I took him to the vet to get some IV because it turned out he was dehydrated. Since he just had turned 1 yr old, I had to start transitioning him to adult food. Augustus loved the Orijen Tundra dehydrated patties as a topper, so I wanted to try Orijen’s Tundra kibble. Once Augustus was back to good health, I began feeding him Orijen Tundra. Augustus was never able to keep his stool solid; his stool was always in liquid form even after two weeks of feeding. I tried other Orijen kibbles but to no avail. Therefore, I tried Acana whole grains, but his stool consistency never progressed. Then, I tried Acana single ingredient. I went with the Lamb and Apples. Augustus stool finally firm up; I was am very happy and relieved. I thought I had finally found the food. I was wrong. Eventually, Augustus developed skin allergies about two to three weeks of feeding Acana Lamb & Apples. I was so stressed because I thought I had found the food. I then tried The Honest Kitchen clusters both grain and grain free. Augustus did not like the food. I finally had exhausted all my avenues. However, something click on my brain, and I thought about raw dog food. I did my research and found The Bones & Co. What an amazing discovery. I first began with The Bones & Co Lamb patties, but Augustus was not of a much fan. However, Augustus would eat the food nonetheless. I stuck with the Lamb formula for two weeks until I gave in and decided to try the Duck formula. This is where the miracle occurred! Six weeks into feeding The Bones & Co Duck formula, Augustus stopped shedding heavily, he no longer threw up at night, his stool completely firmed up, and his energy levels improved drastically! What a relief!!! Two months in on The Bones & Co Duck formula, Augustus is one happy pup! I am now in NJ visiting family for the holidays (I live in Dallas, TX), and unfortunately, they do not sell The Bones & Co around here. I am now feeding him Primal Rabbit patties. No transition needed. He is loving it! I mix in pork, beef, or turkey bone broth. In addition. I had mussels or the veggies toppers from Primal. Augustus is love life and so am I. My average 6 weeks to the vet are no longer a thing! I recommend raw to anyone and everyone!!

[@pawsplace7082]

This is a very informative video on a topic that is gaining more and more attention. To sum it up: 1. Raw diets in pets is a newer form of nutrition that has yet to have extensive studies completed to confirm its efficacy 2. Large multinational pet food companies have an incentive to not acknowledge raw diets due to their existing multi- billion dollar kibble food products 3. Veterinarians are reluctant to propose raw diets in masse due to the low number of studies as well as not having the knowledge themselves 4. Every pet is different in terms of their breed, existing health conditions, and dietary needs therefore trying to find the the proportions of diet can be difficult 5. Pet parent love their pets and just want them to be in the best condition possible. If pet parents truly want more information regarding raw diets it is best to find a vet who specializes in raw pet nutrition or consult with their current vet to find more options Did we miss anything?

[@tstarr8314]

I think there are 4 main issues regarding raw pet diets - the meat used is normally not human grade so standards of hygiene are not as rigorous, people lack nutritional education, food is not stored/served hygienically, and human grade raw food is expensive when compared to standard pet food. I've looked into transitioning my cats onto a raw food diet but I simply cannot afford to buy top standard raw food, and do not have the time or money to learn how to do it myself. I do completely disagree with anyone who says that a dry food only diet is healthy for pets. It isn't. Buy the best quality wet food that you can afford and give your pets uncooked bones (not fish) for the marrow (supervised).

[@lottat6003]

I think a real problem is that many don't know how to make the best food for their cat. I wouldn't dare! There is a small company that makes raw food that I can buy frozen and it's quite good. But I mix dry food of good quality with 40 g wet food morning and evening.

[@KyraSchaeffer]

Try Fresh Pet! It's gently cooked fresh food that meets all nutritional needs

[@aluradeathwing4667]

I’d be careful with fresh pet. They’ve been known for having mold in their food. A good brand is Stella and chewys!

[@K9River]

You don't need expensive, long term studies to read an ingredient panel showing unhealthy BHT and BHA used as preservatives. (I'm looking to you, Hill's.)

[@Astralaeyna]

Thank you for bringing up portioning and different nutrition factors with raw diet. I see so many raw diet advocates also talking about feeding dogs like they're wolves, and it irritates me every time. Feeding your dog purely meat is not only ignoring thousands of years of dietary evolution that makes a dog into a dog, but also ignoring the fact that wolves are not obligate carnivores like cats. They still eat berries, roots, and yes... even the stomach contents of the herbivores they eat.

[@teddy2979]

The problem with most (not all) conventional vets is that they are NOT the people to approach when it comes to raw feeding because a) they know nothing much about it other than cons; and b) they can get into legal problems if they recommend it to their clients. This is why when you go to a holistic vet clinic they make you sign a waiver form. Plus, they claim that science is on their side. Many will still tell you that dogs are "omnivores" just because they can digest grains (well, cooked, that is) when in fact, Taxonomists, who specialize in animal classification (not vets) are the experts in this field and they are classified as Facultive Carnivores. Worst of all, some, even confuse domestication with evolution, claiming that they have "evolved" to eat processed food. Moral of the story, work with a holistic AND conventionally trained vets who can give you both the pros and cons with more accuracy.

[@charliemiller3884]

There is a difference between a raw food diet and an improper raw food diet.

[@mr.puddintater1805]

Yes. That is the key. Not too much vegetables/ greens. They need bone in. Skin and sometimes add fiber to soften stool. Personal choice a cooked sweet potato. Small portion.

[@Rehmoss]

This is incredibly helpful, thank you so much

[@khalicamoore9512]

I understand . However, this basically is saying that veterinarians overall are rejecting this because it's legally a better option for them. This is a common practice in multiple industry and this does create a level of loss in trust.

[@roxiex8237]

As a veterinary student we don't study at all about raw all people say that it is bad,but it isn't your pet will be healthier at balanced raw food,you can feed raw or cooked it just has to be balanced,you can also get high Guality canned dog food or dry food for dogs,but dont feed dry food to cats only like 5 tablespoons because i see too much cats with urinary track diseases,kidneystones....because of dry food,don't at any cost feed your animals market stores kible,canned foods because it is very low quality and even some kible have no meat at all! The healthliest way is the raw feeding diet and cooked ,don't let vets critizize you because they dont know anything about raw exept its dangerous it has bacterias..... it has but dogs and cats are disigned to eat meat and they must have it dogs have exactly digestive system of a wolf .

[@isabellafernandajusino5246]

Whats your opinion on raw dog food sold at commercial pet stores?

[@BrianK-zz4fk]

I know this is 2 years old but salmonilla is more of a risk with the kibble then raw diet from my research. Dog and cats never had ovens to cook so their stomachs can handle it better, as long as you the human, is not giving spoiled meat.

[@j.phinnaeusmorgan7125]

First, Primal Pack you are doing an awesome job. After nearly 40 years of raw feeding and home cooking- you’ve inspired me to become a “student” again. However, I disagree with you on two very important points. Almost any home cooking & raw feeding is better than a commercial can or bagged kibble. I have a dear friend with incredible success who makes a potted chicken with vegetables for her dogs. I started out with no support and little information. My large breed dogs consumed meaty chicken frames with organs intact for almost their entire life and lived long & healthy lives. While, I watched my friend’s dogs become old and crippled in the prime of life. And, as far as vets are concerned. I think you’re letting them off the hook too easily. in 2021, It doesn’t take a rocket scientist or a veterinary student to understand that... ...heavily processed food isn’t conducive to optimum health in humans or companion animals. Always, when doctrine displaces common sense- there’s a problem.

[@elenadejesus7489]

100% agree with you

[@davidhensey2000]

Vets say no, but almost every breeder I spoke too recommends raw diets.

[@cassie8975]

As a licensed veterinary technician, one of the most frustrating things is when a pet parent refuses treatment or won't listen to the advice of veterinary professionals because "the breeder said so." It does not require any medical training to become a breeder. Most breeders also advice against vaccinating dogs. I have witnessed puppy die of preventable disease because they were not vaccinated. Most breeders are not an educated source. You may feel your veterinarian is lacking education on nutrition, but most breeders don't have any. If you don't agree with what your veterinarian is telling you, ask for resources. Ask if they have hand outs or reliable sources so you can do some research on your own. Ask them if they can refer you to a nutritionist. Please don't completely dismiss what they tell you because of a breeder. Those of us in the veterinary field want what is best for you pet and are only trying to help.

[@andrewleeming5998]

I want to feed raw but I'm not allowed Lotus might go on partly raw and I make them cooked meals sometimes . (I HATE FEEDING KIBBLE) but my parents say I have to . I'm very slowly convicing them about raw with Lotus and Jasmine . Any tips ? There cavapoos. Jasmine is a fusy 4 year old and Lotus is 1 year old.

[@mamabear9389]

I do not take nutritional advice from vets or doctors.

[@SianChristina]

Why? And if you don’t take advice from a doctor or vet, where do you get your advice from?

[@mamabear9389]

@@SianChristina Because doctors and vets are not knowledgeable about nutrition typically. There could be some rare exceptions.Vets are essential and important...they just are not knowledgeable about feeding a homemade diet.

[@TheHappyDog]

Thank you for this high quality video 🤗

[@G.b._esq]

What is the black furry liking thing on the raw plate 🤔? A rabbits foot?

[@georgia2993]

What about freeze dried raw natural dog food and the like? It is created to be balanced, so not that risky is it?

[@taliesin816]

Risks remain the same, who made the diet, what are their credentials, which company prepared the meat and diet, is the cold chain strict, do they test for nutrient imbalance, what will they do in case of a problem with their food? Ask the same questions for your raw company as you would for a kibble company

[@georgia2993]

You make some good points, thank you. I do not have my puppy yet, and I will make sure to consider all the factors before getting him raw food. I just figure, a tested, nutritionally balanced and reliable raw dog will likely be much less risky than making everything yourself and maybe messing something up. 🙂

[@megwillnot4815]

You dont need a study... It's common sense.

[@johnmason6213]

An average vet would not guide a pet owner that wants to avoid kibble and corporate foods because they need pet food sales to top up their profits. I’ve been in their back rooms, they have a LOT of stock. Your vet is not your enemy unless they try to tell you that a good raw diet is worse than the bag of kibble in their stock room that was manufactured months ago. Thats when you find a new vet.

[@andrewblough81]

I put it this way if its something i will eat then my dog can eat it too. I don't do raw food because the only places to get most of it are stores. meat and fish have worms and bacteria that we cant see or if ya sit there and go through it well enough can find. example I went to walmart and bought cod to cook up as I was sitting there deboning it I found it had a bunch of small worms. ended up taking it back. with that said I do get food and cook my dog her food. home cooked food is best because I know whats in it any bacteria will be killed in cooking prosses and no added "Hidden ingredients"

[@AnaLucia-wy2ii]

Why can’t you feed your dog cooked food? Wouldn’t it still be healthier than dried dog food? Fresh is best, right?

[@MentalMystics]

What if the meat is slightly cooked (browned) would that take from any benefits

[@shira2151]

The main reason most dog owners don't listen to vets are because they price gouge. All dog owners have been price gouged at 1 point in time by an emergency vet visit. The take your animal for a day, you pay almost $2k. The next day they say it didnt work and the recommend so many more procedures that will rack up to a crazy price. Unfortunately that is the hospital vet and not your small time vet. Either way they give vets a bad rep. Also insurance with animals are terrible right now. I'm paying $50 a month to still have to come out of pocket 100% upon a visit. Only to be reimbursed 20+ days later. If the only issue with Raw diet is it being done improperly, i dont care. People raise themselves, their children and train the dogs improperly and people don't bish and complain. Making sure your dog gets all their supplements is an easy correction with research.

[@lathafalls7675]

Raw food is better for dogs and cats what do u think there cusion’s eat in the wild

[@katiebrent3332]

For the last 20 years we have fed all of our dogs raw chicken frames (with offal attached) raw carrots and other vegie offcuts and eggs. No fleas, no smelly poop, no smelly breath, shiny coats and full of energy. I don't know why people think this is a complicated thing to do. Also, the money saved is unbelievable - I feed my current dog for $5 a week. (Bulk from local chicken shop and freeze). No research on raw feeding? Not surprising - no money it it.

[@stevewallace1387]

I make kibble for a living and my old Irish wolfhound had a raw diet but you have to get it balanced like the barf diet it is definitely better than dry food if done properly

[@Scottlp2]

Raw food diets were radical when The New Natural Cat Came out 30+ years ago. Hard to believe there is not some progress in this area.

[@joywarriorspack]

Kibble is essentially crackers. No one needs a diet full of crackers their whole life.

[@rawexplorer8373]

im actually planning to go to my vet and discuss with her to give owners who want to feed raw a link to my website where I go thoroughly through everything. Not promoting myself, just wanted to establish a quality source of info to avoid people making mistakes

[@BurakLalova]

Guys chill. I feed my dog only with bread. He is 10 years old and still so strong. Killing wild pigs alone

[@lancepheng]

my cat was on raw diet for 6 years, then for 2 years kibble and wet. for the 2 years kibble and wet, she started to get super super itchy, rashes, excessive shedding.

[@TheCarnivoreSoprano]

They can be against it. What actually works is typically simple and common sense. Raw diets work.

[@prehistoricorchid3455]

personally, I like the pet food and raw mix. like they get the kibble as a main but put things like egg, beef, fish, shells, pumpkin, etc. on top of it so it's A) more balanced B) still get the baseline provided by kibble and the benefits of raw diet C) idk I'm sure the pet would be happier lol However, I think this has the opportunity to make a new job of a pet nutritionist. So you can work with them to know exactly what you should and shouldn't feed your pet. like iff the need more shells for calcium, less fish due to high fat, a different cut of beef. I could see this easily working out since the main complaint is "well I can't really trust them."

[@JustMe-dd5ou]

Mine are on a raw diet. They just want to sell food. It’s their natural diet. How can it be bad for them? My cats look and act amazing. No fat on them just strong and lean. Most suppliers now add the supplements cats need.

[@sokisoko_]

i believe the biggest reason that vets do not recommend raw diets is because many people will do it wrong and end up harming their animals. Even after being given instructions. It’s a lot harder to mess up while feeding kibble

[@alexx_windycitychi558]

I JUST CANNOT COME TO MYSELF TO JUST FEED MY DOG RAW MEAT LIKE A BARBARIAN , yes chicken and beef is good lean protein , are you scared to just cook the food? I would never give my dog anything raw . It won’t kill you or your dog just cook the food. 🍛

[@poopman99]

I mean the raw diet would be better but I'm not a vet and am not qualified so I do think a commercial kibble would be better because it has the research to back It up

[@lynnhoffman247]

The research is done by the companies that make the kibble! I switched my dogs to raw a year ago & they are so much healthier now. (I make my own, I don’t buy from the companies that prepare & freeze it.) Do some research into the B.A.R.F. raw diet.

[@devyncampbell4860]

Keep in mind veterinarians actually have very little training in their courses about nutrition. I had to take an extra 2 years in veterinary nutrition on top of my 4 year standard veterinary courses to be a board certified nutritionist. Vets and vet offices can become just as biased as anyone else because of the lack of education or because they have made a brand deal to recommend a certain brand like royal canin. Seek a nutritionist for your dietary needs is your safest bet.

[@PawsofPrey]

It's something I have heard, and even something some of the vets I've worked with have admitted, but I felt a little uncomfortable stating it because there are so many on forums saying how they got a great overview in nutrition. So I just didn't want the controversy lol. Absolutely agreed though.

[@devyncampbell4860]

@@PawsofPrey my total unit time on nutrition was 3 weeks. I was livid because that is not what was outlined in the information packets before enrollment. I ended up taking a 2 year course after the fact. I then found my passion in native Albertain carnivores and omnivores. Bears, gray wolves, coyotes, lynx, wolverines, pine Martins and cougars. I took on zoology and am now working in the Wild Canada section of the Calgary zoo. I am responsible for all these animals nutrition and even in a zoo setting, veterinarians generally are not part of our nutrition team. We work with them but they are not above us.

[@PawsofPrey]

@@devyncampbell4860 What a dream job!! You're awesome!

[@doglover-xg1kh]

a lot of vet would recommend dog food cuz they know is just easier for the owner some owner I have met make there own food but it doesn't meet the dietary need I had a crazy owner coming in and tell me that they have been putting there dog on an all fruit diet.

[@jwenting]

@@doglover-xg1kh yeah, seeing people promoting a vegan diet for cats on websites for pet advise I'm not surprised that people do the same with dogs.

[@harmondushane7290]

It's crazy that natural things in this society get pushed away and then we all discover them again stunned.

[@magdalenavegan]

It's even natural for human to eat raw meat.

[@alipetuniashow]

@@magdalenavegan yeah and a free trip to the hospital

[@magdalenavegan]

@@alipetuniashow I eat raw meat for more than 3 years

[@ΙωάνναΛ-κ8ο]

"natural" doesn't equally good/healthy.. And also everything "natural" is chemical like the water , fruits , vegetables , humans air etc..

[@ΙωάνναΛ-κ8ο]

@@magdalenavegan just because you haven't die that doesn't mean your perfectly safe and healthy..we have studies that show that is very bad for our health and it can be addicted.. Humans are Not carnivores our system can not benefit from meat especially from raw meat.. We get better nutrients from fruits (that's why we can eat them raw) and vegetables

[@Sabbathissaturday]

My dog was going lame in both his back legs. The vet said he needed surgery and he wouldn’t be 100% even after the surgery. I didn’t want to put him through surgery. I started giving him fish oil and noticed an improvement. So, I stopped giving him dog food and started giving him salmon, sardines, steak, chicken….he stopped limping and started running and playing like nothing was ever wrong with him. He prefers his meat slightly cooked. That’s okay with me because he’s an only child now. ❤

[@judy8301]

Thanks, going to try that, mine has been limping for few months now, high vet bill got us nowhere so I bought joint supplements and recently fish oil. Still limping with the supplements but I see she starting to walk to the garden again to do her business, I was picking her up and carrying her just so she could get grass and sun...maybe its the fish oil. Also been giving her green powders, turmeric, collagen, bone broth, at least I don't see her getting worse. I'm here as the last resort, I want to try some raw food, even seared to test and see how that goes. She does not eat kibble, sometimes I mix a handful into her food.

[@qua7771]

My dog is old and has cyst. Do you cook the meat. What about portion size, and feeding schedule? Thanks.

[@manimal319]

​@judy8301 raw diets do wonders if done correctly. They are not for the faint of heart. I spend 3 hours a week doing meal prep for 2 bullies. Remember based on weight %10-20 of there daily diet MUST contain organ meats. I rotate chicken lamb and beef livers, kidney and heart sometimes all of the above. Plus occasionally giblets and stomach if i can find it. Dont over use livers! Also your dogs must have calcium and fibre. I give each dog each meal x1 chicken neck or wing. Sometimes a raw or boiled egg with shell(shell is high in calcium) a couple times a week. For fibre i steam and puree pumkin, sweet potato and carrots 50-80 grams per meal . Plus i add an omega 3,6,9 suppliment oil every meal as well as a fish oil tablet and 30 grams of sardines in spring water(out of a can NOT THE SARDINES IN OIL) As a treat a tea spoon of cottage cheese and 3 slices of cucumber and 4-5 frozen blueberries. Maybe a big slice of apple watermelon or mango if im indulging my self. Use greens like broccoli, beans, peas and spinach if you can, my hate them otherwise i would use more. Finally to regulate there system i give a pre/pro biotic once sometime twice a week or occasionally spinkle in pysllium husk in the selected meat. If your dog is having joint problems look into green lipped mussles supplements. Green lipped mussles are very healthy for humans and pets alike. They also contain chondroitin which is good for joint health. If you can get your dog to ingest Tumeric thats a good way to go 2. Natural raw diet with fish oils, green lipped mussels, Tumeric and a probiotic..... you will see a difference in a matter of days! GOOD LUCK!

[@judy8301]

@@manimal319 thank you for the advice, going to give it a try.

[@qua7771]

@@manimal319 Thanks for taking the time to share such an extensive write up, and wealth of information. Is there a suitable substitute for gut food? I was thinking Hot dogs, or liverworts, (something like that). My dog is on her last days, and doesn't have a huge appetite. I need food that stores well in the fridge, and is simple to make for when she get hungry. Raw food isn't something we can leave in the bowl all day, and too expensive to waste.

[@dinahweisberg750]

Love this video. We've been feeding our 2 french bulldogs raw for 7 years. Vet wasn't thrilled at first, believing kibble was as nutritionally complete as anything needed to be. At the time we were really struggling with GI and allergy issues with our dogs. After a discussion with the guy who sold us the commercial pet food, HE actually recommended we try raw, and I discussed with Vet. I told vet we'd start with a pre-proportioned (proper allocations of bone, muscle, organ), then grind own with very careful calculations. We agreed to do annual blood tests to make sure things remained in balance. I used many references from canine nutritionists. End result? Vet says our dogs are healthier than any of her other patients. Blood results are perfect. Allergies and GI issues gone. Most recent conversation with our vet had HER asking ME for the sources for our dogs' raw diets so that she could help her clients!. At the same time we are in agreement that if people do it wrong, it could be catastrophic. I hope more vets take on the education of pet nutrition so that they can help their clients' pets live longer & healthier lives.

[@clarezajac3276]

That's a really wonderful story I am so glad that there is a vet out there that can be open-minded. A lot of times after all that school that they have to go through to do what they're doing they think they know everything and everybody else is stupid. Kudos to the open-minded veterinarian 7 years ago LOL

[@dr.chandrikaavuti3230]

Woww! I have a dog who has constant skin allergy throughout the year on and off . Vet asked us to switch to hypoallergenic diet which my dog hates( he generally hates kibble). He doesn't eat food properly. Since we stopped giving boiled chicken since a month and his allergies aren't visible. I want to go raw on him. Can I try raw chicken or some other meat?

[@teddy2979]

@@dr.chandrikaavuti3230 I would avoid Chicken, unless it is free range, naturally raised and organic ideally. Chickens that are raised on small places with barely no sunlight and no access to other food other than soy, corn, etc., have a omegal in balance in them (more Omega 6), which causes inflammation.

[@dr.chandrikaavuti3230]

@@teddy2979 Thank you 😁

[@teddy2979]

@@dr.chandrikaavuti3230 If it's accessible to you, I normally give my dogs Quail or Turkey for poultry meat. If you can find Goat that's great for red meat. My dog is is fed various proteins in rotation. She's not spoiled in clothes, etc., but definitely pampered in nutrition (along with my 19 year old). She's fed Goat, Rabbit, Llama, Kangaroo, Quail, Bison,, Venison, Bison, Quail, Turkey, Lamb, Beef, Chicken and one day fasting a week. They get about 3 different meat proteins every week (pre-made).

[@samkent3603]

No evidence how TF do wild animals live 😂😂

[@robinsingh9563]

Vets go provide them purina chow

[@lin____471]

@@robinsingh9563 lmao I can't 😂

[@mitchlindgren]

This is a terrible argument. Dogs and cats have much longer lifespans in captivity than in the wild. Just because something is natural doesn’t mean it’s good. Death cap mushrooms are perfectly natural but eating them will still kill you. I’m not saying raw diets are bad, but “it’s natural therefore it must be better” is literally a logical fallacy.

[@samkent3603]

@@mitchlindgren you realize kibble companies provide the “nutrition class” for the Vets right? How did dogs survive when they were first domesticated?? Prior to “kibble” 🤔 I’ve lost dogs to Caner, Bloat, all from KIBBLE, even the vet stated it was from KIBBLE. Also have you seen the new Recall list for kibble????

[@samkent3603]

@@robinsingh9563 😂😂 DEAD

[@gw2macken757]

The raw diet has been around since single celled animals have been around.

[@PawsofPrey]

I can't disagree with that!

[@alistyle]

Perioddddddd

[@DusterBuglas]

What’s the safest way to have sex... don’t have sex.

[@nadaquever9058]

What the hell do these content creators believe most carnivores eat in the wild. Dog Chow from Costco? 😂

[@calystavelvet5526]

...and animal lifespans are shorter in the wild due to disease caused by bacteria. I'm studying veterinary medicine.

[@jy221series4]

Feeding your pets kibble is as good as feeding your kids nuggets

[@foodiefelo7904]

Don’t disrespect chicken nuggies like that😂

[@jy221series4]

@@foodiefelo7904 or any processed food at all mate

[@austin2739]

I love processed food tho

[@José-l9u9p]

Facts!! My friend

[@R6_Drilla]

@@austin2739 loving poision isn't a good thing incase u didn't know

[@angelaportillo6777]

Theres a difference between a raw diet and feeding your dog chicken and rice.

[@Conscious.Consumer]

Raw is naturally how a dog would it. They cant make fire and the boil water needed to make chicken and rice. Also do to the rice dogs can have issues. Legumes are another thing to research and make your own conclusions.

[@starandfox601]

@@Conscious.Consumer humans can though and dogs evoled with humans. So you do need to take into account the effect we have had on dog nutitrional needs.

[@Conscious.Consumer]

@@starandfox601 give a dog a bowl of kibble and a bowl of raw meat which will they want?? Raw. They are hunters. Play some animals sounds see how they react. Itll click unless they were taught their instincts were bad.

[@starandfox601]

@@Conscious.Consumer did I say give your dog kibble? Dogs have hunted along side humans eating what we eat.this has resulted in them needing a varied diet including grains other wise there can be serouis health effects.also raw may not be good for them cuase 1 they have a weaker stomach then wolves and 2 grocery store meat isn't exactly fresh or the best and can be loaded with parasites and other nasties. Serouisly stop pretending your dog is a wolf/wild animal.or that are is harmless.

[@Conscious.Consumer]

@@starandfox601 sounds like you think bread is nutritious. And I would never eat nor feed disgusting grocery store meat Im well versed in health thanks.

[@majdavojnikovic]

A veterinarian told me to start feeding my dogs raw, because of allergies they got from dry food. They don't have them any more, and they are much happier getting this food.

[@PawsofPrey]

I'm happy it was recommended and helped the issue!

[@juliannarathmell]

Mine too! He loves meal time. He has also lost a ton of weight. He still thinks he is starving though lol. He is a glutton.

[@carolann811]

We found an elderly stray beagle who was allergic to apparently everything. We tried a raw meat diet with her and eventually discovered she had a reaction to beef, less with chicken, none with lamb but that's impossible to find. With research, we created a vegetarian diet for her and our other dog. Molly passed away of old age completely allergy free and our Max is going strong.

[@dlg.studios5649]

Oh my! That’s rare!

[@dimeandbiggie353]

@@carolann811 WHAT!! That's different

[@CaryKelly11]

Cats are obligate carnivores. You don't need a study to tell you that.

[@teddy2979]

No kidding.

[@vc7417]

Yes but wild cats have a much shorter life expectancy. Of course you could argue that they most likely die from other reasons but it could also be they dont live long enough to know the risk of raw food diet.

[@teddy2979]

Wild cats die sooner because of a) predation; b) man-made causes (cars, poisons) and d) age-related--inability to hunt; and e) killed by prey/ same specie/different specie competitor. If raw diet was a problem, no wild predator will be left alive from the beginning. Cats, especially, were not domesticated to eat corn, soy, brown rice etc. in barns. You let a cat out and majority of them will hunt, domesticated enough. Kibble on the other hand and improperly made cooked food, has killed and caused so much more related problems from organ and metabolic issues.

[@vc7417]

@@teddy2979 Humans also start off eating raw, they also have a lot less diseases (most likely because they dont live long enough for these diseases to develop and reasons you stated above as well), do you suggest we go back to eating raw as well? How do you suggest cats deal with worms coming from raw meat? Keep in mind that dewormers are actually poison.

[@teddy2979]

@@vc7417 Hi, AC...cat biology and human biology are different. Cats are classified (and dogs) as carnivores by Smithsonian institute Taxonomists and ethologists (people who actually do this for a living). It is a scientific fact. Cats and dogs have not "evolved" to eat processed food (although dogs can survive more on it than cats longer). We have change to morphology of cats and dogs for sure, but not their DNA, dentition, digestive tracts. The parasite scare is what many people who are not aware to discourage raw. Yes, there are parasites/pathogens in raw food, but dogs and cats, unless they are immunocompromised, which need special handling, have the enzymes in their mouths and the right acidic levels in their guts to deal with them, along with a healthy immune system. The National Research Council, which pet food companies based their self-funded studies on, will tell you head on that dogs and cats even need ZERO carbs to survive. The fact that many non-meat diets have to be cooked in order for their nutrients to be unlocked says a lot as it is. If truly raw was dangerous for carnivores, we would have seen mass extinctions of carnivores; the same goes for herbivores if we fed them cooked "grass, etc." No animal in this planet eat cooked food except humans because we are so far removed from nature, and we indeed have evolved to eat more processed and cooked food. Believe it or not, for Sushi, for example, it is healthier for you raw because the nutrients are not destroyed b cooking, BUT unfortunately human intervention in the oceans (mercury, pollution etc. makes it a problem). For cats and dogs, as with processed kibble, you have to obviously watch out for sourcing. If one does not know how to feed raw properly and handle them, I would not recommend them either.

[@samuils]

When I was fostering 6 kittens and their mom, I went to the vet and asked them what to feed the little kittens after they weened off, I was given a suggestion of kitten specific canned food, I of course picked it up. I was giving mom some raw fish and raw chicken and one day I noticed that she grabbed a whole piece and took it to the kittens herself, I was amused so I followed. She brought the raw fish to her kittens and they just all jumped on it, biting into it as if they never ate before, It was too adorable, they even growled at each other. I cut up the piece and gave them all so they could all have enough. Nature, eh?

[@PawsofPrey]

That's ADORABLE!

[@livvy8919]

Please be very careful and considerate with using a raw diet on cats. They require certain amino acids and vitamins in their diet that dogs do not, if you give a cat the same raw diet as a dog it will die! (goes for dog kibbles as well, never feed a cat kibble food meant for dogs). I´m not saying its not possible to feed cats a raw diet, but its very hard und requires a lot of research. In my opinion giving a cat some raw food in addition to a kibble diet is probably the better and safer method.

[@MrHarryHewitt1983]

I love this! Talk about mother knows best.

[@itsrue7216]

@@livvy8919 so I know that cats shouldn’t eat dig food but what am I supposed to do when the cat eats the dog food by itself (ie dog bowl is unattended and cat goes up and eats out of it)

[@livvy8919]

@@itsrue7216 its not that the dog food is poisonous for the cat. It's not a problem if it eats the food, as long as the cat also gets proper cat food as a main meal. It's only a problem if people feed their cat dog food only. If your cat mainly eats cat food, which has all the important stuff supplemented, it will be fine;)

[@juliuscaesar8071]

I genuinely do not believe kibble is balanced for your dog. Raw food is exponentially better when you consultaré with a vet nutritionalist

[@PawsofPrey]

While I certainly agree, my goal with this video was to speak from an unbiased standpoint and reiterate the conventional veterinarians beliefs!

[@juliuscaesar8071]

@@PawsofPreyoh don't get me wrong, I'm really happy you made this video! I'm just a bit upset that vets discourage raw diets instead of providing resources, for example referring them to a vet nutritionalist or giving them a basic outline to follow

[@PawsofPrey]

@@juliuscaesar8071 I feel you 100% !

[@PawsofPrey]

@@juliuscaesar8071 Trust me I'm right there with you! Some fortunately do, but they are far and few between at the moment.

[@emmybuns6964]

Just to be clear, you spoke with a board-certified veterinary nutritionist that stated that a raw diet is healthier than kibble? I find that very hard to believe, as the current AVMA consensus is that a raw-food diet is typically not a recommended option for the majority of households.

[@themyrtlewoodshomestead9371]

The truth is most people who do raw diets do it wrong. Now those who’s really take the little time necessary to do it right should see great results!

[@curstinw6420]

YES! Raw diets are good only when you do it right and only a small percentage of people take the time to figure out how to

[@moonhoney5527]

Okay so how do u do it right? Or where does one look to get the right info?

[@themyrtlewoodshomestead9371]

@@moonhoney5527 Great question, I actually made a few videos on this topic. I list all my sources in the description box. The Prepper Dog EP2 Ultimate Guide for feeding RAW for SHTF kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpS0eqpsba9_d5o The Prepper Dog EP4 The Most Sustainable Raw Diet kzbin.info/www/bejne/gIXVooWmaZWMoJI Hope this helps

[@s.s.9149]

@@themyrtlewoodshomestead9371 I can't speak for the OP but this helps me tremendously! Thank you.

[@themyrtlewoodshomestead9371]

@@s.s.9149 Thank you 🙏

[@quail4sale334]

The raw diet isn't "fairly new". 😆 We're just now getting back to feeding dogs properly, which is the diet they evolved on.

[@PassionofDance212]

Someone told me they feed a raw diet. I saw it consisted of salami, cottage cheese, eggs and another type of cheese. They were feeding this to their cats!! Obviously I called them out and referred them to nutritional information that was correct but my god. Personally raw has turned out to be so much more affordable than canned and I couldn’t be happier.

[@PawsofPrey]

What in the world? The imbalanced and flat out wrong "homemade diet recipes" out there are a huge reason vets are against homemade diets. It's unfortunate.

[@whyjustwhy2168]

Where can I get info on raw, recipes for cats

[@PassionofDance212]

@@PawsofPrey agreed. I’d rather someone feed a cheap quality wet food over an unbalanced raw diet

[@Okamisou]

Omg raw doesn’t mean processed meats and dairy! Why do people not research things.

[@lathafalls7675]

God not god

[@rcmv09]

We learnt at the raw feeding veterinary society conference this year that Anna Hielm-Bjorkman from the university of helsinki has some AMAZING stuff coming out. Its all confidential at the moment though as its not ready but exciting times ahead! Watch this space 😊

[@PawsofPrey]

OHHH that makes me so excited! Thank you for sharing!

[@gerrimcgrath6878]

Wow! Great!!!!!!

[@miu7292]

When

[@toppersbooks1530]

Stuff published at conferences isn't confidential - you can typically find their posters etc online...

[@TomsWhip]

Any update on this you could link to?

[@kimmccallum5697]

Of course I am no expert but I thought I’d share my experience. I know that my boy’s heart failure was massively due to bad breeding (puppy mill rescue.) He was given three weeks to live at most. Whilst feeding Royal Canin Kibble, he declined extremely quickly. I’m talking a week. I’m a complete pessimist, it’s just the way life has shaped me. If I expect nothing or the bad, then neither of them can upset me. I didn’t believe all the praise the raw diet was getting but I was desperate. I decided on a premade high quality raw food. The improvements in my boy were so beautiful and rapid. He went from deaths door, to like a puppy again!! His heart also shrunk in size to the astonishment of his cardiologist, who even now recommends a raw diet to her other patients! Personally, I will never go back to kibble 🖤

[@iskywalking420]

Why were your only two options either kibble or raw? Why not somewhere in between with slightly cooked meat? I don't understand this extremist attitude in the comment sections where it's either A or B. Is there not a balanced medium? Perhaps don't over cook the food, but just enough to rid of anything viral etc? I don't understand what is happening in this comment section...

[@queenvic83]

@@iskywalking420 I think cook foods is good but it's more of the level of nutrition so it would be more of a transition if your pet is picky but Raw is the ultimate ideal grand prize type of food for the pets to eat.

[@chrishayes5755]

@@iskywalking420 "extremist attitude" because people feed raw.. lmfao pls, you sound dopey. nice attempt at negative framing. dogs stomach acid is much stronger than humans, they're scavengers / omnivores and can handle dirty water / rotten carcasses. a dogs digestive tract is virtually identical to a wolf. what do wolves eat? that's a biologically appropriate diet for a dog. bacteria isn't inherently bad, bacteria is also fundamental to health. dogs instinctively bury meaty bones let them rot in the ground and eat them weeks / months later dogs also eat rotten dead animals if they find them. that bacteria helps shape their microbiome / immune system. finally when you cook meat you're destroying enzymes, nutrients, bacteria. you're also making the bones more brittle so when they crack they splinter in very dangerous ways. feeding cooked meat with any type of bone is much more dangerous.

[@codacNvegas]

@@iskywalking420it’s really no different than when a human is on their proverbial “deathbed” and the medical route has failed them and they choose to go the “holistic” route as a last resort.

[@ronwest7930]

While canines ate raw meat for years. Modern canines learned to grow wheat and corn and harvest the necessary food to eat better. Dogs are very picky, only the best food in a dumpster or off the ground is used by them.

[@purpleamber1]

It's not really about the "responsibility" of giving the okay for a raw diet, it's the fact that owners can slowly and prematurely kill their pets with nutritional deficiencies that cause permanent damage like heart disease. Consult a professional veterinary nutritionist always.

[@curstinw6420]

THIS!!!!

[@carolann811]

Actually, the professional nutritionist I consulted DOES recommend a raw diet. Also my vet now consults me on what the best raw diet should be. He's admitted he has no first-hand knowledge of raw diets and little in vet school beyond the basics. He quizzed me when we first met six years ago and I explained the supplements added to the raw chicken, the handling procedures for working with raw food and the feeding schedule. He's satisfied with that and we're going on eight years of feeding now 14 cats raw.

[@JadedMantra]

@@carolann811 I think thats what the commenter meant. They want people to consult with a nutritionist when doing something like raw to make sure people understand how to completely balance their pet’s diet.

[@SusaAndPuppo]

@@carolann811 hello, i couldn't find a video or anything that explains how to make sure the raw food is safe for my cats , i mean how to make sure that the raw food that i will feed them have no pathogens or dangerous bacteria? both my cats have digestion problems , they can only digest Hill's Prescription Digestive care... so i don't think their digestive system is strong enough to fight pathogens and harmful bacteria, so is there anyway i can handle or process the raw food to make sure it is free of harmful stuff ?

[@carolann811]

@@SusaAndPuppo The only way to handle raw food to make it free of harmful stuff is to heat it to the point of killing the pathogens. But then it's no longer raw. What kind of digestive issues do your cats have? What happens when they eat? And why does Hill's PDC work for them when other foods don't?

[@MissElisabelle]

My dog's not on a raw diet, but homemade cooked food. I only grill the meat on the sides, leaving it basically raw inside. I give him bones and organs too, mainly liver, heart and kidneys. We don't give him chicken or eggs because he's allergic to poultry; plus we give him Omega 4 supplements. Fish is too expensive where I live. We also give him Greek yogurt sometimes, and vegetables. All of this, paired with a portion of rice and potatoes. Our vets were also against BARF, and even raw bones, now I know why! We had to switch to a homemade diet because kibble just didn't work for us, we changed brands 4-5 times, and each time my dog had digestive and intestinal issues. He was lethargic most times and meal times were almost torture for him. Now he licks the bowl and he's always excited for the next meal, he's more energetic and his fur is brighter and softer, his stool is firm. He wasn't being pickky, anyway. A few days after we introduced him to homemade food, he was eager to eat kibble; in fact, he loved it and wanted more, but then he had tummy issues again and that's when we asked our vet for blood tests because I was suspecting that my dog was not being picky, he was being sick because of kibbles! My suspicions were soon confirmed, so we never switched back to commercial food, although yes, it is more convenient on all aspects.

[@PawsofPrey]

I'm so happy you've found something that works for your dog!

[@sunrae7680]

Yes. I cook my dogs meat also. I don't live anywhere near a farm. I'll do some other things you've mentioned in comments. Thank you.❤

[@BrianK-zz4fk]

so right on fish, I cant even afford it for myself 😂

[@noblelegrand1668]

My 16 year old Jackrusll/ Papillon is loving life with his raw diet. He will say warmed up to body temps is his favorite!

[@PawsofPrey]

That makes me happy ^__^

[@noahr.7144]

I mentioned being interested in feeding raw to a new vet I went to and was very pleasantly suprised to not hear any objections, just warnings and precautions. They brought up how I need to be cautious with how its handled, and I mentioned I was planning on buying pre-made to avoid imbalances and they said that was good. No major objections, which was massively reassuring, a vet I went to before that literally was reccomending I use dry kibble, it hurt my soul

[@MrUltimaPro]

Yeh I get premade 250 gram packets which do me a one day and then she has 2 cubes of dark berry fruits and foremnted yhoghurt and then 3 spoonful of premade herbs for hair skin guts sight teeth and then I have a special natural toothpaste made out of liver 😂 she eats better than me daily

[@carmaela2689]

My grandma remembered a time when dog and cat food were considered weird. The dog and cat got scraps. They lived a long time and didn't have the health issues pets do today.

[@andycocchia4202]

Your grandma also lived in a time when food wasn’t the garbage we ingest today

[@MichaelBiebersWorld]

2:20... "At this time there's no evidence..." Sure, you could say that... if you ignore the 1930's extensive, multi-generational, 10-year, raw meat vs cooked meat study done on cats, by Dr Francis M Pottenger.

[@PassionofDance212]

You bring up the salmonella risk but do vets realize that kibble contains salmonella and bacteria too? It’s highly processed and sits on shelves for so long and collects bacteria..

[@jamesyouldon6704]

Also, the stomach of the canine is more adapt to deal with salmonella than ours

[@gentilewarrior]

A dog's digestive system is that of a wolf and can accommodate organic pathogens that can be harmful to humans

[@laurennichole161]

There are other bacteria and toxins harbored in raw food aside from salmonella that cannot be killed via freezing only heat. I’ve seen multiple pets sick from bacterial toxins related to raw diets and a patient that actually died from it. It’s not always an issue when you have a healthy dog but if you have an immunocompromised pet or one with underlying disease you’re unaware of, that’s when illness can occur. Commercial dry diets are coated as well as the packaging they come in. They have a shelf life before they begin to collect any bacteria or lose nutrition and once opened and stored in a cool dark place they have a life of about 3 months. I’m not advocating one over the other just pointing out some info/pros and cons.

[@asherkarr5096]

Actually yes they do the FDA actually has companies recall food for salmonella contamination that has been linked to pets becoming ill or even dying but raw is way more commonly recalled for this reason than dry foods and wet foods. Not saying you can't feed raw just saying it makes sense that there's more risk of it possibly having bacterial contamination

[@curstinw6420]

Also when feeding a raw diet Salmonella and E. Coli can live in a dogs mouth for a long time and not cause a problem for the dog but when that dog licks your mouth or a childs hand and that child puts their hand in their mouth, it can make them very sick! So that can be a hazard!

[@The3Shogun]

At the end of the day vets and doctors follow what they learned off a book. Use your best judgment and do what you think is best.

[@Hrgrvvsgirl]

You think Google is research that's funny how you call Vets out for being wrong when they go to school to learn about the Body of animals such as cat's dogs and others Raw is a trend A potential dangerous one at that It might not show up now but In the future your pet will pay for it. Your not smart from reading a article off of Google.

[@starandfox601]

@@Hrgrvvsgirl vets barely get taught about nuititrion. Also Google articles generally are more informative then vets when it comes to nuititrion.esipceally when it's a bunch of pet owners discussing their experiences or from punished studies in a sceinfic journal.

[@teddy2979]

@@starandfox601 Yes, I trust Google research more than vets, sorry. I think 20 years of Google research trumps 2 hours of nutritional study in vet school sponsored by Mars Purina, thank you.

[@sarahmann1581]

As a human health care provider, I can say this is largely how the healthcare system is. Love your take on it.

[@justine7143]

I just experienced this yesterday! I informed my vet that my 11 year old GSD was switched to a raw diet that consisted of; ground beef, beef liver, chicken hearts, chicken feet, raw eggs with the shell, mackerel, plain kefir, blueberries, dulse granules and a turmeric/sweet potato paste. She straight up told me that I am probably going to kill my dog with bacteria and a lack of macro nutrients. I told her that I spend the time with a scale measuring out exactly each ingredient so that she’s getting everything she needs, and she didn’t want to hear it. Told me that kibble was the best choice and gave me a bunch of literature to prove that processed kibble was better than grade A meats and ingredients for human consumption. I was so shocked

[@marconjakecanonoy]

Dogs are descendants from wolves, of course raw meat diets are ok for dogs as well.

[@jkingofthechicken2217]

Have you got a license for that common sense?

[@chantellerosebud1780]

For anyone new to feeding raw, there are now thankfully nutritionally balanced complete raw foods available, so you don’t have to stress about making it yourself and getting the balance right. If you prefer to make your own but are not confident you are able to balance the nutrition, there is also a complete nutrition powder you can add to make sure they are getting everything they need.

[@alvodin6197]

There's no need to stress about this. Simply do research. We do need to buy expensive commercially available "raw food gimmicks". That would be making the same people who are selling other dog products rich. Let's instead learn about how to feed our dogs.

[@RyeFleming20]

@@alvodin6197 no just buy 80:10:10 raw meat and give correct amounts/add sardines and eggs etc and it is the same thing less effort just as healthy, and price difference isnt much different I pay £85 a month to feed my dog raw stress free.

[@nickimillennium]

@@alvodin6197 everyone’s trying to get a piece of the pie, especially from small dog-owners like me who don’t pay much to feed my dogs raw meat every month. They don’t want to lose the business

[@tinahuttner7280]

This is what I’ve been wondering bout a lot of them are really $$ I should only have to spend a 1-2$ on his meals (mix lap dog) at the most 3-4. Are there any that are economical?? I’ve just been getting him ground turkey and sweet potato’s😋

[@tywolczuk]

I feed my dog raw and absolutely love it! Her coat is super soft and shiny! Her poop is also way smaller. If someone wants to go raw I’d recommend getting pre made raw. I buy frozen patties and then add supplements to it. I’ll never go back!

[@arlenemckenna5990]

What supplements do you add ?

[@tywolczuk]

@@arlenemckenna5990 I add fish oil and a pre/probiotic

[@horrormovielover6725]

is it okay for 6 month old puppy?

[@tywolczuk]

@@horrormovielover6725 yes! Your dogs stomach but he a little upset from the change in food but 6 months is totally fine

[@MURZBO]

Vet clinics are often supported financially by major pet food companies. Maybe that explains why they would be against raw.

[@StayHumble86]

Do animals in the wild cook or add preservatives to their meals?

[@mr.puddintater1805]

The problem with the wild animals diet is Fast Food.

[@rmoenmjea]

I work at a vet and I have to say, you rarely see people doing raw food right. Just this week we had a cat severely sick from raw pet food. He was on the verge of not making it. I'd rather people buy high quality kibble or wet food than half ass a raw diet.

[@jfkst1]

That's what my research on the topic concluded too. Raw done properly is sound. However, very few owners do a raw diet properly. I supplement some with raw food, but the foundation is kibble.

[@rmoenmjea]

Thats a good way to do it. Have high quality kibble and feed hearts, bones, whatever you want extra. And ensure that it is fresh!! The cat we had at our clinic was severely ill from eating older (not rotting but older) meat and being transitioned from kibble to raw way too quickly

[@pyroryx]

Then inform people, as your job is to do so? If you know it's helpful, just assist those people in the right direction.

[@rmoenmjea]

Nope... Not my job. I am a vet tech, not an animal nutritionist. We often refer people to animal nutritionists but we would never tell someone to feed raw or how to feed raw. Because if something goes wrong its always "But you told me.....!!" We advise high quality ready made foods. If people feed raw we don't say anything but we will not lie to them if their pet gets sick because of that diet

[@justkidding7523]

@@rmoenmjea you don’t have to advice them to switch to raw but by simply telling them to ensure that their raw diet is balanced will suffice. Telling them that dogs and cats have nutritional needs that need to be met. Telling them to consult a nutritionist that specializes in raw diets. By simply looking the other way is being part of the problem. Take your education serious and talk to pet owners. For crying out loud….. so happy that more vets and vet techs are becoming part of the raw movement and ruffling the feathers of big pet companies. Kibble doesn’t cut it. Period!

[@harveymushman4190]

I work at an indoor dog park and see hundreds of dogs throughout the day, I can always tell which ones are on the kibble diet. My little chipin can go 12 hours between bathroom breaks, poops maybe every other day, his coat is always nice and shiny, used to have dandruff

[@jacksongraydon2503]

"There's no evidence!" *entire history of dog domestication has entered the chat*

[@tengrachel9548]

All the commercial pet foods on the shelf for years, what type of nutrition they contain? I really doubt. I feed my dog on BARF, they are super heathy. My labrador even doesn't shed a lot, her coat is shinny

[@wolfsrain0000]

Hills funds their 8 hour nutritional course ☠️ I personally haven't seen anyone do raw feeding wrong, the raw feeding owners are generally more educated than vets when it comes to nutrition. A lot of vets/vet techs are incredibly stupid and stubborn. Even things like flea and tick care is something they blindly push onto clients because they're endorsed by them. I decided to keep studying and get my degree in holistic pet care instead of jumping into the field to work at a regular clinic now because I can't stand the clients or the vets.

[@PawsofPrey]

While these companies do fund a lot of the schools, there are some that simply have board certified nutritionists teach and oftentimes just tell the students to do their own research but give them enough knowledge to understand the nutrition basics. Many vets have said they never had the brands pushed on them in school, but who knows.

[@hassanalaaalfatlawy380]

@@PawsofPrey did you all the brand bad for our pets!

[@juliuscaesar8071]

I highly reccomend consulting a vet nutritionalist! They're specially trained to handle raw diets and can help you supplement for any of your dogs special needs and also make sure they're getting the right balance. You can even do it online :)

[@bearandnalathegoldadors5080]

Yes, I’ve never seen anyone do it wrong. My dogs are raw fed and they get muscle meat, organs, bone, omega 3 (fish oil tablets and sardines), sometimes eggs 1-2 times a week and fruit and veggies they have been on raw for I’d say almost a year and they love it and it works best for me

[@PawsofPrey]

@@bearandnalathegoldadors5080 that's great! I do suggest adding in a fresh whole food to fill the zinc, manganese, and vitamin E gaps though!

[@PawsofPrey]

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[@laurendallas253]

Love that this gives both sides perspectives and isn’t biased. Thank you for the well rounded information!!!!!

[@harleyjordan7959]

Internally funded studies. Say that again. Now mull it over. Internally. Funded. Studies. Do you think they'd ever post anything that showed the negatives of their product? This isn't an attack on you or the vet profession. It's an accusation for the corporate types. I raw feed because I don't trust anyone who's accountable to stakeholders first.

[@SusaAndPuppo]

hello, i couldn't find a video or anything that explains how to make sure the raw food is safe for my cats , i mean how to make sure that the raw food that i will feed them have no pathogens or dangerous bacteria? both my cats have digestion problems , they can only digest Hill's Prescription Digestive care... so i don't think their digestive system is strong enough to fight pathogens and harmful bacteria, so is there anyway i can handle or process the raw food to make sure it is free of harmful stuff ?

[@PawsofPrey]

@@SusaAndPuppo if your cats truly have digestive issues that cause them to be unable to eat raw meats, you can try freeze dried commerical raw that uses high pressure pasturization on the meat. This sort of defeats the purpose of raw as the HPP destroys all bacteria (even good bacteria) but it's definitely better than kibble

[@SusaAndPuppo]

@@PawsofPrey i will try to find this type of food , but unfortunately i'm from the middle east , and there is nothing like that sold here , they don't even sell raw food for pets , all what i can find here is some ( low ) brands of wet and kibble which the best of them is royal canine , i have to go through long process and pay double shipping from usa to uk and from uk to me to be able to get the Hill's Prescription that they can digest , which costs too too much , i hoped i could make a transition for raw food but i worry that they will get sick of bacteria cause it seems their digestive system is kinda weak...

[@ashassassin]

You can also feed your pets cooked food. Raw is dangerous but just steam the meat and voila! No issues. Why promote a raw diet when there's a perfectly safe alternative?

[@bishoujoblogger]

Because wild animals dont get cooked food

[@rutabaltvilka1352]

Yea... If you cook meat, it loses a lot of the natural nutritions. Another way to get rid of some of the dangers is freezing it for at least 3 days

[@PawsofPrey]

Cooking depletes a lot of nutrients the food source provides naturally. I have a few videos on safe handling practices for the owners handling the raw food, but there are no dangers to the pet if they're healthy. They were designed to eat this way!

[@purpleamber1]

@@rutabaltvilka1352 freezing does not kill all pathogens, especially parasites. You need at least 7-10 days in a severely cold freezer, think -30 F.

[@rutabaltvilka1352]

@@purpleamber1 I said "some". And I would think that the animals have adapted stomachs that can handle most of It. They were born to eat raw meat. I bet barn cats eat all kinds of meats right then and there.

[@jonathanyeong324]

Kibbles is processed and isnt natural. Im a proponent of the raw food hype. I noticed my Malinois has reduced her shedding by 85 pct.

[@brownwarrior6867]

Yes because in every Documentary on Wildlife the Dogs or Wolves can be found in their dens cooking food on gas cookers. 👍🏼

[@BF4ClanTBS]

We’ll but in that logic humans should be eating raw meat because back when we didn’t know how to do fire we ate raw. Not acutely against the raw diet, it makes sense to me but your argument is a logical fallacy, since dogs have been dogs and not wolfs they’ve been around humans that can cook meat.

[@LokeSenpai]

@@BF4ClanTBS can’t compare humans and cat/dogs evolution. We’re very far from what we used to be when we masters fire. They’re pretty much the same. Try going naked in the wild and survive, you couldn’t. They could and still do.