Why Via Ferrata requires a resting system and gloves - Via Ferrata is not like sport climbing

[@barneyadams9869]

Completely agree with you. I don't understand why there is a debate at all! I've climbed for nearly 30 years. My hands are tough and even I get very sore hands on long VF.

[@aerialrescuesolutions3277]

Excellent video. What you said makes total sense, always have a resting system, even if you don't need it, maybe someone else will, and you will be glad you could help someone.

[@JetSetYourself]

One day on an overhanging Via Ferrata I pulled a muscle. Guess. I needed to sit in the resting system for a couple of minutes until I could feel my fingers back again and then to stretch the back until the muscle released. You never know when you need a resting system. In all my videos I also have on me a sling with a carabiner. Just in case. Is better to have it than not to.

[@midnogreen8405]

found you today and this is the best advice for everyone new to this. some do renting a via ferrata set and all of them arent with a resting system here in switzerland, you have to asking for it.

[@JetSetYourself]

Agreed. Many renting facilities don't provide a resting system as well. Should become a standard even if for liability reasons probably they want to minimise the possibility of clients using the resting system as a third arm that can lead to bad falls.

[@copycatt2579]

Thanks for all of your videos! They are awesome and I appreciate it. About your gloves, do you cut the pointer and finger off yourself? Or buy them that way?

[@JetSetYourself]

Hello. Thank you for your kind message. The gloves are sold by Black Diamong, Edelrid or Climbing Technology (I don't recommend the climbing technology leather half finger gloves because they will keep getting your palm dark from the type of leather they use even if otherwise they are exceptional). They have different variations. Some have all fingers gut. Some only two. Search on Internet Via Ferrata gloves and for sure you will find them. Alternatively search for Black Diamong Crag gloves, Black Diamond Stone gloves, Edelrid Work Open II, Edelrid Work Closed II. I like both the Edelrid and the Black Diamong gloves. They are not the same. I usually go with the top of the range (I have the Crag version but don't use because I need as much protection to the hand for maximum performance). I hope this helps answer your question.

[@copycatt2579]

@@JetSetYourself Thanks!

[@UntakenNick]

I recently went on my first ferrata ever and I could have really used a resting cord. There was a wall with an inverted slope and the stemples were quite far apart from each other on a protruding rock. I had the resting cord and I knew what to do with it in theory, but in that moment it didn't feel safe to have most of my bodyweight held only by the belay loop. Being able to just use my feets and have the resting cord holding me in place would have made things much easier by giving my arms time to rest, but as I was releasing my pull and transferring the tension to the cord I thought "No way I'm hanging from a tiny ring of sewn fabric.." so I detached the cord and continued on with even more exhausted arms than before. Is that what I was supposed to do? Just lay there held only by the harness? Can I 100% trust that it won't fall apart?

[@JetSetYourself]

The recommended harness for Via Ferrata is a rock climbing sitting harness. You can use a full body harness made for adventure parks or a sitting harness made for canyoneering or a combination between a sitting harness and a chest harness both made for rock climbing, adventure parks or canyoneering. You should not use a sitting harness made for mountaineering (they cannot withhold the stress of a rock climbing fall). You should also, not use something that is not properly certified. Should you trust the belay loop? In theory, the belay loop should be as weak as any other lanyard in the system. True, where a cord is available the recommendation is to not use it but at the end of the day it is made to be used. It is a lot to speak about how and why a belay loop my break. Should you trust the equipment and sit just like that? Well, do it if you really need (make of this a good rule of thumb). Before you start any Via Ferrata always test your equipment. Sit into it just like that one you are 2m above the ground and make sure all is in place and properly working. I understand your reaction. I to this day only let go if I really have to. Never voluntarily.

[@lvilgen]

Hi! Can you please link where to buy your VF resting system?

[@JetSetYourself]

If you are based in Europe here are some links. I have three or four Ypsilon and I bough them from Trekkinn and Bergfreunde. www.bergfreunde.eu/climbing-technology-ypsilon-lanyard-personal-tether/?aid=c3fbcdf44a319275f2b09a6d4febcb31&pid=10004&gclid=CjwKCAjw-7OlBhB8EiwAnoOEk_hur2Q20PQiNOjdm_UO0fV7xrs71saGlwA78bkMExeKOUOU7Rey5RoCxiAQAvD_BwE&wt_mc=eu.pla.google_eu.18006456220.. www.tradeinn.com/trekkinn/en/climbing-technology-ypsilon-sling/136347305/p?id_producte=4453777&country=ro&gclid=CjwKCAjw-7OlBhB8EiwAnoOEk2YgZtjKpereEtJlfscwn0DPtXdJUPRlvn4mVnaLQnGC8i7ybGuN-xoCGtQQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds www.rocknsnow.eu/ro/product/lonja-dubla-climbing-technology-ypsilonct-7w12930-060 www.amazon.de/-/en/7W12930060CTSTD-Climbing-Technology-Ypsilon/dp/B00UPQ0APE

[@pavlodeshko]

hi, can you do a video tips for going solo on ferrata?

[@JetSetYourself]

Hello. Yes, I can. If I do it in the studio (or not on the mountain) I probably can put it up soon. If I choose to do it on a Via Ferrata (on the mountain) will take a little longer. Let me think about it.

[@dirlenelopez6033]

I normally bring a sling 16mm or 8mm with a carabiner with me... I can say that it saved my life once during a K5. Do you think I should use a VF system?

[@JetSetYourself]

I agree. The resting system helped me so many times (and for sure in the beginning at least it saved my life). I call it "Via Ferrata resting system". What this means? Even the 16mm or 8mm sling. What makes it a resting system for Via Ferrata is the correct utilisation for this specific purpose. As a parenthesis, there is no difference between 8mm or 16mm slings. They all are rated 22kn. Just a thought. Please don't read too much into it. Let's take the example of the sling you carry with you. It can easily be your Via Ferrata resting system as long as a) is tighten to the harness (belay loop or hips and leg loops) in such way that will stay still, b) the carabiner is connected in such way that will not bounce on the sling, c) the length is not longer than arm's reach. I hope these easy rules make sense. We want the sling to not "fall" or "bounce" on the harness to be easy to reach and use. We expect the same from the carabiner. We don't want the sling to get into our way and we also want to be able to easy use it when most needed. With regards to arm's length, we want to not be forced to descend so that we can rest. We also don't want the sling to be as long as the Via Ferrata Set. Being short enough we also avoid bad falls in case while we clip we also lose control and fall. Do you need something else? If the sling is enough for the challenges you take, no, you don't. If you have the money and curiosity to test something else then you can start testing to see what works for you better. For me, Ypsilon from Climbing Technology works best (it worked for the past two years and for now I don't feel the need to search for a alternative). I have the Petzl Adjust, other climbing systems and more but on Via Ferrata I rely on the Ypsilon. Why Ypsilon? Because it has to arms. One short, one long. For bridge crossings, horizontals where I sit way below the line or other cases I use the longer arm. For the rest the shorter. I looked back and I see that I use the short and the long equally. It really depends on the type of Via Ferrata and the holds available. Do you need to switch to Ypsilon? No. If you don't need such versatility and you don't go that extreme, no need to spend more money. For the Ypsilon you will pay 20€ on the lanyard plus probably 50€ or more on the Petzl Vertigo Wire Lock and then the Climbing Technology or Singing Rock Via Ferrata rated carabiner (this is how I use mine, with two distinct carabiner). It fast gets expensive. Of course, for my case, my life has no price and I use them for the money I pay (when I record I fix myself into it, I use it for testing, exploration, etc). You can use a Prusik, a quickdraw or a carabiner connected directly to the loop of the shock absorber of your Via Ferrata Set. You can as well use the Petzl Adjust for example. I do not recommend them even if there is nothing wrong with using any of them (I might have some objections with each). I've stated with a sling myself. Then I tested some other resting system but the I ended up with the Ypsilon (I searched for something of the type and I was able to find the Ypsilon and the something from Petzl made for caving - I ended up buying the Ypsilon because I like how it is constructed, the stitches, the patented connection system).

[@dirlenelopez6033]

@JetSetYourself thank you so much for this complete answer. I agree with you. In my case, the most extreme via ferrata I did was a K5. Normally, I go until K4s... if I were like you climbing K5 and K6, I would need a lot of additional equipment, lol Again, I wish you great via ferratas and thank you for your help.

[@JetSetYourself]

@@dirlenelopez6033 please pay attention to how you fix the sling. I think is you I just checked on Instagram and I've seen in one of the stories how the sling is in between the elasticated lanyards of your Via Ferrata Set. I also seen another picture where it appears the sling creates the type of issue I was speaking about (gets in your way). Make sure the way the sling entangle with the Via Ferrata Set to never prevent the shock absorber to properly deploy. Also, in case you don't do it already check the link below on how I propose you knot your sling for resting: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJPGiIysZspgo80

[@ArthurReniro]

@@JetSetYourself Hey. Why do you use different carabiners for Ypsilon resting system?

[@JetSetYourself]

@@ArthurReniro I explain this in at least one video. Is because I need to be able to distinguish what length I'm grabbing with my hand without looking at it. In many cases I know what length I need (the shorter or the longer) but I cannot look down to know which one I'm grabbing. By using two distinct carabiners I can only use by hands (without watching) and guess which one is which.

[@BackcountryPilgrim]

Good advice. People are ridiculous with their elitist "rules".