Why was One-Punch Man's Season 2's Animation so Mediocre?

With big names like Yutaka Nakamura, Chikashi Kubota, Shingo Natsume, Yoshichi Kameda, Arifumi Imai, Toshiyuki Sato, and many others, either doing little work or in some cases not returning at all for Season 2., the chances of the non-stop bombastic action sakuga fans were treated in the first, became less and less likely.
However, the transferal of the series production into JC Staff's hands aside, that's barely scratching half of the reason the animation quality dropped. So join me today as we explore the other side of One-Punch Man Season 2's animation production woes, in today's video!
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[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

Season 1 simply had The Dream Team working for it, rarely will you ever find passion projects like that, it created a masterpiece. And you simply can’t compare Saitama tier animation with average to good animation.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

For sure, although the fact that season 2 had an infinitely worse schedule chucked at them with multiple other odd decisions from the higher-ups is equally as crucial to the animation quality dropping :)

[@mohakus4]

Agree.

[@hcchjvdhcb]

shaddap bot mustache guy

[@deveyous6614]

And if they ever have a final fight/episode, they all need to come back and try to create the best work they've ever done.

[@lawliot]

How do I block people from ever appearing in comments?

[@Onionbagel]

Honestly the animation in season 2 wasn’t nearly as bad as ppl make it, it was great. Season 1 raised the bar so high that even decent animation looks mid in comparison

[@Jays_dead_cat]

It wasn't bad in my eyes. It just stands out by comparison to S1. I found AoT S2 to be lacking in the animation department also after S1. I missed the thick outlines of the characters and the rich color saturation. But at the end of the day, animation does not take first priority. I'm all about the story and characters first.

[@emperortime2356]

Decent Animation is still bad Animation. Either is a good Adaptation or a bad one. Not in between. One punch man artstyle and drawing is so incredible that it deserve good Animation rather than a "decent" one. Tbh every manga deserve good animation not a "decent one".

[@Skibidi_Fazbear]

Isnt decent and mid the same word

[@quanzaylundy7359]

It wasn't bad at all it was actually still very good but the immature side of anime watchers insisted that it was dog shit cause it wasn't on par or better than season 1.

[@quanzaylundy7359]

@@emperortime2356 come on be fr

[@LeviKanal]

Season 2 had to be rushed so badly, but the staff still managed to keep the artwork consistent and add banger moments here and there. As an animator i find it really impressive. (Also sad of course, since they have to overwork themselves for this). Ps. Where did you find all that awesome behind the scenes footage?

[@forgottenrelics1197]

Yep they did an excellent job despite the insane time crunch! And sakugabooru has the goods, although it's often sourced from either said animator's Twitter or Instagram so you can find it there as well -www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/78997

[@merceraeolymus]

it did not have to be rushed

[@nesraspongx58]

@@merceraeolymus i am pretty sure it being rushed is not the animators' fault, they had to do it because of the higher ups, so yeah it should've not been rushed but it's not the animators' fault that it was

[@8minato]

Yea exactly people hating on season 2 crazy when it’s better than season 1 except in animation.

[@nesraspongx58]

@@8minato they are only hating on it in terms of animation only i am pretty sure, at least most of them

[@2l84me8]

I’m tired of greedy people pushing unfair deadlines on hardworking people. You can’t rush art and these nameless faces go unnoticed and underpaid. And those are the ones that didn’t die from exhaustion.

[@shadowninja1059]

Especially the ones who are filthy rich I’m talkin to you Toei

[@diegovaldes1408]

@@shadowninja1059 What a way to miss the point lol. The animators and directors at toei are exactly the people that suffer from tight schedules and low salaries, even if they're treated better than in other studios, at least from what i know, Don't blame the studio, blame the producers

[@MikeKnight4771]

It's simply a common thing in Japan, to the point where it's in their culture. Working hard (i.e. more than 40 hours with unpaid overtime) is seen as normal and anything else is slacking.

[@dogeyes7209]

Ended with wit studio dropping AoT season 4 because of the stupid 8 months deadline

[@Matt-kt9nm]

Your rushed art is also out there forever with your name on it . Not good when looking for work.

[@ellusiv5121]

Honestly, my only problem with S2 is the look. The metal shading or even the skin of some characters looks ass with or without animation. It just looks ugly at times. Look at the monster cell for example. Just learned it’s called Compositing

[@pranjal6924]

also the road gradient looked quite same and repetitive

[@coalartisan]

Bad compositing made the watching experience unpleasant. It gave off different vibes towards characters and atmosphere. This also happened to Haikyuu, the compositing from season 1-3 is far different than season 4, which latter got glow up and cleaner.

[@dafluffman6674]

The season 2 key visuals on the merchandise and bluray covers looked much better and resemble the metal for season 1. Don’t know why they changed it.

[@Gamesaucer]

Yeah, this is really what made it such an unpleasant watch. Some of the animation wasn't that great, but that alone doesn't completely break my enjoyment of a show. I mean, just look at JoJo, half the show is just characters posing the way they appeared on the manga panels with minimal animation going on, and it's still great. But OPM S2's compositing wasn't just mediocre, it's bad enough that it actively detracts from the experience. Well, it's that, and the fact that they cut away from fights so often, usually at the moment of some attack landing, and then they just show the environment getting blown up or something. It destroys the coherence of the scenes in which it happens since there are just chunks of the fight that are missing entirely. I imagine that's more of a directing issue, but it might have been complicated by time constraints. It's certainly not the animation that was the real problem with OPM S2. I should say, though... frankly, I don't really understand where the compositing issues came from? It could have been time constraints, and I don't know enough to truly comment on that, but... it seems to me that with the same amount of effort, you could have made something that actually looked okay rather than giving us the borderline incomprehensible mess that we ultimately got. It just feels like someone took the final product, tried to add a poorly configured photorealism filter on top of it, and called it a day. The colour balance, the values of the shading and highlights, the weird blurriness everything seems to have... I just don't know what's going on there, or how it's the result of time constraints. I wish I had more insight into that process.

[@wiktorwiki15]

I've been saying exactly this since release. S1 was also simply impossible to top, even without the unfeasible schedule. It was an anime so good it got many people into the genre. I hope they get a reasonable work environment for S3 because the manga deserves justice and they are clearly passionate about the source material. Good video 👍

[@forgottenrelics1197]

Thank you and I hope so too!

[@EE-ro4nz]

Season 3 is going to be a nightmare to animate

[@heheheheheheheheeh3766]

@@EE-ro4nz true

[@kalebmcmurray]

@@EE-ro4nz king Orochi gonna be pure cgi 😂

[@gokusoloscope]

@@EE-ro4nz so much content to animate, so much episodes to make... i wouldnt be surprised if it took a year to come out

[@KremBotop]

Watched OPM S2 for the first time earlier this year and I honestly wasn't that distracted by the lower production values. It was very much still enjoyable, the great animated bits did invoke S1's epicness and I liked the way the story development was handled. I guess it was all down to poor management from the higher ups, given that S2 took much longer than many have imagined, and audiences obviously expected more S1-like goodness. Hopefully, whatever is holding back S3 from happening right now gets eventually resolved and we do end up getting another quality season, as the manga has been insane lately.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

Yeah kinda felt the same, I found it a fun watch with more so the bland colour design and compositing being my biggest gripe. It is a pity the higher-ups created a production hell for everyone involved tho.

[@tweakr4377]

I have a completely different experience- watched season one, loved it so much I read all the manga. I stopped watching season two after maybe 1 or 2 episodes (after waiting for it for years), as I knew what happened and I found the animation, color palette, etc annoying enough that I stopped watching. Maybe i’ll give it another shot, and obviously the studio did a great job considering the position they were in, but I really wish they had more time and funding to be able to match how lovely season one was.

[@dankmoon949]

I haven't seen it recently but I feel like It might have been more obvious for people watching it while it dropped since everone was screaming about it and u couldn't really ignore the amount of people talking about the poor quality while watching it making at least me focus on the quality more than I usally do

[@mohdiallo8318]

I didn't even notice

[@tenslastergames8086]

It’s funny you mention Season 3 being held back, because it’s highly likely it will be announced tonight with the final chapter in the Garou arc.

[@AccelSternritter]

S2 animation was not that bad, actually pretty decent compared to the average anime. Wish they gave more time to the team, like 12 months instead of 6.

[@JoseNovaUltra]

Yeah more than bad its just the difference, when I started to see S2 I expected to see the same style as before, it bug me out why it would have changed, I didn't think it was bad (I have a bad eye for art, I didn't know it was "bad"), just different and that was mildly annoying..

[@Jayfym912]

nah

[@Potato_506]

@@Jayfym912 it's still great, but it's just not the same animation quality that we expected

[@Avarn388]

I'm really happy you produced this video and dispelled a lot of common myths about the animation industry. I cannot stress how important time is when developing a series. AnimeAjay put it really best when describing time which was he compared the production process to a restaurant. Let's say you order some food and you expect it to be read in less than ten minutes. Sure, a talented chef could whip something up but it won't be as good if they had an hour or a week of planning for a meal. And considering how extensive the process is to produce a series like this, time absolutely matters. And in the case of OPM, as many have pointed out the talent behind that series was incredible for the first season. And also it didn't have to deal with a lot of BS with JC Staff. In short, it's unfortunate. Yes, OPM's second season story-wise is good but considering one of the prominent elements to its rise to fame was the stellar production work with the visuals/ presentation; it is hard not to notice. Still, I think OPM's second season is fine as its own thing. Here's hoping we get an eventual third season and it will be better.

[@Thebabybadass101]

I never realized season one had so many different legends from different legendary studios, truly lightning in a bottle

[@eataneraser]

I don't know what it is about this channel over its contemporaries that do similar things, but ForgottenRelics covers *exactly* what I want to know and see *exactly* in a way I can understand it. The editing is phenomenally understated (as in it does a perfect job with what seems like immense effort to convey information in an accessible but not a flashy way) and after I recently re-watched and was re-horrified by OPM season 2, it's good to get this perspective. Others have expressed ambivalence toward season 2, but when you read the manga next to watching the show, a C-minus effort like this really does a heavy disservice to some source material that was genuinely lowered by the poor product put out for it.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

Thanks! I constantly try and put myself in the shoes of someone who's learning about the animation side for the first time. And I guess I don't like boring content myself so I try my best to make it interesting.

[@MrGoodCompany]

Great video. All the animators working on this with that insane schedule deserve praise. If season 3 happens, I hope they are given plenty time to work their magic.

[@crestofhonor2349]

I’d love to see you do a video on world trigger, specifically season 2 and 3. One of the reasons why is specifically for Akihiro Ota’s scenes. His animation in world trigger is absolutely insanely polished and smooth

[@mechajay3358]

Honestly, OPM Season 2's Animation isn't terrible, it was pretty average overall with some stand out moments. But after the Spectacle that Season 1 had, I don't blame the fans for feeling this was a massive downgrade. It just comes back to not having a director who had connections to Top Tier Talent.

[@Fanimei]

Producers really thought if they just gave us a season 2 we’d be happy.

[@mrdriver2988]

For what JC staff did it was impressive. Especially when they had an extremely tight schedule.

[@user-vd3pw6yf7b]

The thing I hated the most was the smudgy looking art which you mentioned was the compositing. And yeah the audio was weird I lowered the volume in some parts. Other than that of course the animation wasnt as good as season 1 but I had no problems with it. I liked the pacing of the story and unfortunate to know the situation the team had to put up with.

[@pognarchy]

I’m actually extremely impressed with the animation of season 2 with the added context of a severe time crunch

[@KhayJayArt]

Time and poor pay is an issue that plagues animation industries all around the world, yet some ppl still think that poor animation is due to laziness. Everyone loves shitting on the animators instead of how the industry is run. Animayors really get no respect ftom anyone, not even the fans of the shows they work on.

[@lil7725]

With season 3 being announced, I really do hope that it gets the proper adaptation it deserves now. Hopefully the production committee learned from the mistakes of season 2.

[@cephery8482]

It still surprises me how they see this crazy popular show, and one of very few to get big worldwide, and do that to it. This was such a big name for them to not put the proper resources into.

[@zhareeq]

s3 production already started 1 year 5 month ago. with it released next year we can assume that s3 had 2 years of production which is better

[@basedondennis]

@@zhareeq source??

[@zhareeq]

@@basedondennis this one was leak by private leaker. he always change his username in twitter and now he is no where found. his leaks very trustable. and its also confirmed to be animated by MAPPA. about releasing in 2023 im sorry about it. i cant confirm it. it might be in 2023 or 2024🙌

[@MrAaaaazzzzz00009999]

I believe during airing there was also a weird dark filter used for bright scenes, which made some good animation fail to stand out.

[@MrStickmin]

TV Tokyo ways of preventing seizure

[@Cri_Jackal]

That's is almost every modern anime, you see it a lot in MHA, it's required in order to abide by anti-seizure policies.

[@nah856]

The team behind this anime truly was a talented one, I can’t believe they shined so heavily in such dire conditions, sadly more time and a better DOP can be a rare luxury even for sound end products like jujutsu kaisen

[@alonsonic]

Literally just finished your previous vid on this. Fantastic timing. Great job on these series

[@forgottenrelics1197]

That's great haha, hope this one is interesting as well!

[@eri5523]

I love this type of videos since I wanna get into the anime industry more and I'm very interested in animation (sakuga etc.) and it's been really helpful

[@belikediogenes]

The almost-long-waited video!! And you even talked abou Aoki-san!!!

[@forgottenrelics1197]

Haha it would've been a disservice if I left out the incredible Aoki😤!

[@loganpullo7044]

When i first viewed season 2 I thought the animation was below average in most scenes with a few great animation moments though the cgi arms for genos looks bad. Also they reused sound effects constantly. Season 2 of one punch man was immensely disappointing for me. But with the knowledge that season 2 of one punch was given much less time than season 1 I looked over the animation again and i think if the animators were given more time they could have created something good because they showed potential even with their VERY limited time. Its just unfortunate that opm wasnt given the time and attention it deserved.

[@LeafMaltieze]

Season 2 was so hyped for me. I fell in love with the manga, which I started because of Season 1's incredible performance. I had expectations as high as they could get. What we received, with at the time very little explanation, was an average level l of production, and an overall drop in quality. It wasn't bad, but with a few exceptions, it just wasn't all that great either. The difference in quality was so obvious to me, that I just couldn't enjoy the second season. I own every issue of the physical manga release. I own the Blue Ray for Season 1. I have watched Season 1 nearly 10 times all the way through. I have convinced many friends to watch the anime, because I was so enthusiastic about, and would literally set up days that I would come to them to watch it with them. I was, and to some degree still am, and huge fan. And yet, to this day, I have never fully watched One Punch Man season 2. I have seen most the fights, and I have watched about half the episodes all the way through, but I just don't really enjoy it. I would rather read the same scenes in the manga, than watch any of it happen in such a mediocre way in Season 2. For a long time, I thought this was just JC Staff being a lazy studio, with a poor budget, and less skilled staff. The truth actually makes me more upset than if that were the case. Knowing that they only had 6 months, and yet it still came out as good as it did, is actually impressive. At the same time, it shows that it could have been nearly as good as season 1 if they had been given the time. It's actually so much more disappointing to know that it was bad executive scheduling that ruined it. I feel so bad for the team that worked on it.

[@acyned8079]

Interesting! Thanks for all the info, It's amazing to see so many people working on One Punch Man and the work they put into it!

[@RisingFist]

Love the content man. It’s no wonder your channel’s popping off. Tier 1.

[@superadambomb5834]

JC. Staff definitely have the talent. The animation in the ova in which Garou fights suryiu was amazing! They just needed time. With the announcement of season 3 I hope that this new studio (whoever that might be) takes their time with it. There are so many great fight scenes in the manga that with the right time and talent will turn into beautiful pieces of animation.

[@davia4794]

The Black Clover staff had some trouble as well.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

that they definitely did

[@ultimaweapon6]

I'm very glad to see you do another one punch video I hope there's more to come. I had a question that I was curious about if you look at comparisons of season 2 and then to the mangaYou can see a bit of downgrades To the scale of some of the monsters or something like that I'm just curious if they chose to do this because it would be easier to animate

[@cia4u401]

*SIX* MONTHS? wow yeah no wonder it looks like it does. like you said it's a miracle it's even half as good as it is at all

[@lorenzorizzi864]

And aot the final season p1 had the same time while having even more eps to make and a more complicated character design. Absurd

[@Elfo_Scuro]

J.C. still a great studio, a lot of series were so enjoyable and different from the standard. J.C. wasn't prepared to the negative and toxic fans reaction. At least you can't put at the same level the work of the production of Madhouse with them. Two differnet studios, two different creative directions. Too much behind for average fan anime people to understand. And Murata style isn't the most easy mangaka to portrays in the anime without a solid director and production. People in the past didn't put blame on Masami Suda for the less details compared to Tetsuo Hara original art in Hokuto no Ken. But I repeat, now fans are always so a pain in the ass that sonetimes they can't recognize a solid product to a bad product.

[@goatrou_thehuman_monster]

This video helped me gain trust in JC staff, especially after they were confirmed to be doing season 3, shows that they have some true potential.

[@lowdistortion]

Season 2 just needs more time and some more Ace animators. Hope there's a good animation producer

[@KingGodzillaTM]

8:52 THANK YOU , Ive seen a lot people say that Aoki carried opm2, and that bothers me that people say that, yes he did but, it wasnt just him who did great animation in opm2, so thank you for clarifying that to others

[@louisregi6985]

I would love a video on the topic of David production and how they manage to make so godly animation in fire force and in Jojo bizarre adventure

[@trevorwilliams7384]

Coming to this video after the announcement of Season 3 is interesting because of all the hype going on. In particular, this video makes me hope that the studio involved in Season 3 is given the time and crew they need to make it a real spectacle! It's easy for us to want this new season to come out as soon as possible, but if it's made with enough care and attention to important details, we could see One Punch Man not only return to greater relevance within anime, but be given a more consistent production and release schedule. Let's hope for the best, and thank you for making this video!

[@Zuronicks]

Again with another banger! You’re doing great bro keep it up!

[@forgottenrelics1197]

Thanks!!

[@supar2386]

So glad this was brung up. As unfortunate it was for there to be issues from this season I still really enjoyed it, honestly Garous story alone had me interested the whole ride XD of course there were more things to it but im glad they atleast kept it to a decent standard, I’d recommend watching it regardless~ 💙

[@egganegga]

I wouldn’t mind if he staff still worked on season 3 and had more time and more people working on it

[@Batmantheforerunner]

I sense a channel that’s gonna explode with growth pretty soon

[@tripplesouth]

What bothered me most wasn't really the animation itself. It was mostly the direction of timing and execution, which made a couple of scenes awkward. Like when Genos was looking for a solution while being pinned down in a staircase. He looked so goofy looking around and his reaction when he found an fire extinguisher. Or how Sonics fight ended so abrupt without a satisfying slapstick timing. (In Sonic's case, I think they made it a little better with its timing in the blu ray release, Heck I saw they made some better polishing overall on the blu ray, so I bought it)

[@JustAskQuestions]

That Terminator frame is so amazing! I can't comprehend why you'd cut that!

[@Userdoesnotexit]

Bro. am glad you are taking this direction. well done !

[@forgottenrelics1197]

thank you!

[@RD-uq4hg]

Certainly does give me a different perspective, but the question is, will season 3 be the same deal? We've got no idea when they started working on it or even who is working on it as far as I know so they could've put loads of time into it or they may only recently have started. Even though it feels like way longer it's only been 3 years since season 2 came out so I'm imagining it'll release somewhere between late 2023-mid/late 2024 since that's a bit longer than the gap between season 1 and 2

[@m0002856]

I couldn’t watch season 2 after season 1. I mean… I know the writing is still good, but OPM Season 1 was such an insanely amazing complete package. I think what elevated it beyond just another joke anime was the fact that it was consistently animated better than many serious action anime are. The fact that the anime/manga doesnt take itself seriously yet the anime still had that insane quality put into it made it stand out above and beyond. It’s harder for me to enjoy Season 2 at all knowing what it could have been.

[@kenhdautientoitaora7676]

When i first watch ss2 (i didnt know the animation got worse), i still find the animation in ss2 good, but a bit blurry when compare to ss1. The only thing i hate is how saitama act jokingly when hes fight suiruy (forgor name) and suiruy was disrespecting hero, i think it would be better if saitama was pissed off

[@VeylmanTheRock]

Bro I love stuff like this. I might not have the mettle to work in the industry myself cause frankly, I don't want to work myself to death, but seeing and hearing about the behind the scenes is always so refreshing. I still find myself go back to Boros vs Saitama at least once a year.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

Same, I just wisth there was more people talking about the bts of anime productions, because while I enjoy making content regarding it, I enjoy watching videos on it just as much!

[@VeylmanTheRock]

@@forgottenrelics1197 Yeah I can imagine that predicament. There's very few who can match your quality and a lot of the anime industry is still kind of a mystery. Might have to do with japanese work ethic, not sharing too much, NDA etc.

[@lawliot]

5:53 that looked much better before all the effects were added. damn.

[@jayimzd]

wow i had no idea. ty again for another banger video.

[@grim_reaper10001]

It was 2015 when I first watched one punch man season 1 episode 1, it had amazing animation and humor that would excite me every time a new episode would come out. And when there was a trailer for one punch man season 2 I was so ecstatic and so much nostalgia flooded my brain. When I finished season 2 the storyline was interesting to me but I liked it regardless and at first the animations didn't really bother me I was just excited to watch the anime again since it's been 4 years since I've watched one punch man but I thought before the animation would be one of the best I've ever seen but it was pretty normal which wasn't really disappointing at first but I realized that they've been probably producing this and planning it for years and normal animations come out ? I was disappointed at that point but nevertheless I still loved the second season because of the humor and to make it even better this video explained in-depth why the animations were like that. And I fully now understand and respect the time and effort that they have put into season 2 and I can't wait for season 3 😀.

[@slouch186]

they only had 6 months???? that's insane.

[@qva4318]

The funny thing is Black Clover anime had 6 months for 50 Episodes and we all know what happened after

[@kameronmiller2226]

The animation quality went 📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈

[@qva4318]

@@kameronmiller2226 More like 📉📉📉📉

[@forgottenrelics1197]

It's pity the animators often got blamed for it instead of the bad decisions from the higher-ups

[@knighthorses-sn4iv3em4z]

good video and i just wanted to correct that Yuji Takagi actually aren't in-house at J.C Staff but he's a freelancer with a contract with them also there's another old freelancer which is the effects animator masao okubo which while not much much but he did good enough.

[@maadacoomber9090]

Thank you for shedding light on this

[@robbegeusens1302]

Great video, while I could tell parts were rushed with all of those white background, barely any animation sections I never knew how bad it was.

[@eishikibahamut]

the garish shininess of metal was one of the main things that always stood out as an obnoxious intrusion to every scene for me. If they got rid of that I think it would have made some scenes look pretty good. The real frustrating part about this is that there was such a long gap of time between seasons and then they only give the animators 6 months to work. Hopefully season 3 gets the time it needs

[@rurouni_xyz]

ig we should all stop hating the animators, rather blame the admins & managements. it wasn't gonna kill anybody to give more time & a breathing room to the animators. also for the note, KyoAni's shows all look so great, some of their stuffs work from home, most of them r housewives. idk why other company's can't take it easy like they do.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

Yeah KyoAni's model is a unique one although I'm unsure of how studios could make such a dramatic switch from the standard production model, but then again, I'm sure many staff working in the industry that look to KyoAni are wondering the same thing!

[@rurouni_xyz]

@@forgottenrelics1197 well, idk much of the insights, but they could simplify things a bit more.

[@somaschicksal3235]

Wasn't the well animated part of the fight between tank top master and Garou animated by yuya Takahashi? I remember reading something along those lines when the episode was released . I think he animated some parts of the opening as well (the ones with genos)

[@Amplifymagic]

Kubota set the bar too high

[@forgottenrelics1197]

bruh he was still there for the second

[@Amplifymagic]

@@forgottenrelics1197 I always just assumed his role changed after season 1, since he’s no longer “Chief Animation Director”

[@forgottenrelics1197]

@@Amplifymagic I thought he did as well originally haha but nah he still handled the character designs despite not being chief ad

[@twojac20]

can you do an episode on why we don't have opm season three please?

[@hawshimagical]

every time you show that kameda clip of saitama punching the subterranean, im stuck rewinding over and over. its SUCH an amazing and stylish animation cut

[@couchpotato5657]

Thanks for making this video. It’s definitely enlightening

[@PlatinumSperms]

With Season 3 looking like it’s gonna be announced soon I hope it gets a team that are passionate and treated well enough to adapt the godly manga

[@patricktorres1292]

As long as it's not JC Staff again I'm happy 😅

[@alexcavaliere62]

@@patricktorres1292 Did you watch the video?

[@gmoney9469]

The compositing was the big thing for me. It felt like they were trying to cover up cheap animation with flashy Snapchat filters. Even if the animation underneath was good, that’s just how it felt.

[@MazingerDestro]

I remember the meme with Aoki. We were placing bets if he was going to be in every episode. He was a "solo action animator" lol

[@kyl0ooart]

I didnt think opm2 animation was necessarily mediorce it just had to compare to season 1 which is one of the best animated shows at the time

[@forgottenrelics1197]

Oh it definitely had excellent animation, it's more so a general statement/comparison to the first season

[@Dogflamingo]

9:05 Yooo, I remember him from his KZbin channel Retro Ryno, where he tried to help make the Bleach TYBW anime. Great to see him in anime

[@pepethefrog6809]

I have a lot of respect for J.C Staff for delivering something like that in just 6 months, it's sad to see people shitting on them not being as good as Season 1's "Dream Team". LOL Seriously, I'm just amazed Season 2 didn't end up like the animations in the 3rd season of Seven Deadly Sins. Check it out and judge.

[@NighTMare-gv8gz]

SDS S3 looks like something a 12-year-old made on Devian Art lol

[@gunnercat8045]

another thing that no one mention is how Makoto Furukawa acting changes from season 1 and season 2, idk what the hell happend in the production team behind the voice acting, but god damn i wish makoto would voice act like how he did in season 1

[@basedondennis]

he sounded a little less expressive in s2

[@gunnercat8045]

@@basedondennis my friend who likes voice actors (including furukawa) said that the voice actor were directed to act like that, idk if its true or not

[@OXhuls]

I always knew it was time. I animate myself and when I want to do sth quick it always looks bad. Not that I do that for a living though. I just like to do it for myself and on another note. I am really bad at it lol Great video and thanks alot

[@Popotato7777]

Exactly what we asked for, nice vid, besides the animation was not that bad but the compositing and sound were so poor to me.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

Felt the same, the season would've looked much more appealing and generally, I think it would've helped mask the lack of movement in areas. The staff in AoT s2 took a similar approach and it looked great!

[@chromafire]

The fact that JC staff was able to do what they did is a miracle in itself. Not even many seasonals look as good as OPM s2.

[@jjstarrprod]

Thanks for clarifying that up. Now the real question is : why were they low on time ? The gap between the 2 seasons was around 4 years long, so why did the higher ups all of a sudden wanted them to put up with season 2 with only 6 months of prod ? That'd be the interesting question.

[@jxbuyo]

they didnt have enough manga chapters at the time if they did madhouse would have done a season 2, so they ended up dropping it no studio had the rights untill 2 years later, as of why they chose j.c staff, it was because no other studio wanted to adapt such a manga, it was either j.c staff or probably worse

[@user-og6pb6dd5p]

​@@jxbuyofreelancers than madhouse themselves lol

[@Userdoesnotexit]

Also, Do you know alot of the TV anime today is understaffed.. its insane.. and, Kadokawa planning to creat 30~40 anime titles till 2023...

[@forgottenrelics1197]

Yeah, generally there's just a lack of staff everywhere, although if it wasn't such a harsh industry perhaps it would be a more desirable career. And I wasn't aware of the latter although it's sadly not a shock at this point. There are simply too many shows being made.

[@epsilon_music]

Can we get a video on the animation analysis on the dbs fight between jiren and goku? It has some great animation and its style was amazing.

[@forgottenrelics1197]

I already have in this video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3jHiGdmaqaiiZY

[@carloscauan7967]

Can you do this kind of video for Records of Ragnarok?

[@forgottenrelics1197]

haven't seen it tbh

[@woomynation]

And we just got a season 3 announcement (that they have started working on it). Really hope they take their time on it and do the arc justice. Mega hype nonetheless.

[@Mario-ts4pi]

I had such high hopes for season 2, since the manga (Murata) every panel drawn is worthy to be a poster on a collection wall. But not just the animation, if animation compared to season 1 was a 6/10, the sound effects… 1/10.

[@Ayeato]

if jc staff does continue to make the next season I hope they have a proper schedule and hire a lot more freelancers. But animation aside, im not an animator or artist so idk what you call it but the colors and coloring used for season 2 dont look as good to season 1 for me. Its things like genos metal arms look weird in season 2 when compared to season 1. And colors in general seem brighter and more vibrant but it looks worse. Anyone else have notice this? Nvm seems you addressed it at the end. Sad to see great animation ruined by bad compositing.

[@cheese3996]

And three days later, season 3 gets announced, LET'S GOOOO!

[@viyusavery248]

Can't wait for your demon animations breakdown

[@forgottenrelics1197]

yeah, just caught up the other day, i'll get to it eventually

[@LordOfWaffles32]

Aoki is literally the man I loved what he and the team did for S2

[@Potato_506]

If JC Staff gets more time to product One Punch Man season 3, then there's nothing to worry about. Let's just support these animators that worked hard for season 2 even under such a short amount of time and scheduling. after all they did great on season 2 as well, it would've been much better if they had more time

[@thepizzaman2013]

Sounded good on paper, but bad during practice, that's as much as I could gather from watching this. Thanks btw, really cleared up a few spots that was irritating me to the core. Well done.

[@OGnewar]

Thank you for this video, was really knowledgeable. And so the question is: Why did they allocate such less time for a series like one punch man? especially after the godly animated season 1. They should've know fans were going to be disappointed with anything less than that. They should've given it more time but I don't know jack about the anime production industry. So this is a genuine question from an ignorant fan: Why was OPM season 2 given such less production time?

[@OGnewar]

@@yname I see. Thank you very much for the explanation. It really unfortunate that happened for OPM season 2. I hope with the change in studios and all, they are given enough resources and time for season 3.

[@husk9835]

Is expanding your content into covering anime other than Dragon Ball something you're planning on, I'm personally incredibly intrested in how other shows are being handled, and would love for this channel to be an avenue for that. if not, it is what it is

[@DavidoMAMO]

Season 1 was perfect. Right team at the right time .fully creative freedom . and the result speaks for it self . You should do a mob psycho video

[@forgottenrelics1197]

I probably will get to Mob eventually. Would love to dive into its animation. Come to think of it I could cover an episode or two when the new season drops. Guess we'll see!

[@spongebobsucks12]

Damn seeing this I could never be mad at the animators. The higher ups should be ashamed.

[@reezwave]

For a very very short time, I think they nailed it to be at least a decent quality anime (by decent I mean there's some bad one and some great one like the one you showed). I hope if they ever did s3, they have more time to do it.

[@Rikoyasha15]

It sucks it should be common sense stricter deadlines means less quality and will also mean less sales and rewatchers than if they had the proper time to look good

[@GalekC]

Hunter x Hunter 1999 also had a bit more time to it when you consider the sizeable number of breaks (& I think around 4 animation teams compared to the 7 [w/ 2 outsourced] that MH had for HxH2011? Please don't quote me on that) compared with that of HxH 2011 which literally only had a few episode breaks in its entire run. I can't begin to tell you how many times I watched both of them - studying all I could about their animation while 2011 had still been airing

[@KrnlFrog]

Next video: Why is one punch man season 3's animation the best animation to ever be made? (Hopefully)

[@johmdancel]

Now I'm gonna watch the S2, because of this. Thanks for enlightenment!

[@Angel-Otk]

3:07 isn’t that the guy that plays light in the live action Japanese death note movie?🤔🤣

[@zbuilder4664]

Wooo let's go been waiting for did

[@klepto9764]

Now that season 3 is going in production, lets hope for best. I believe S1 can't be topped but if given appropriate time S3 can be made much better.

[@Ameno-Sagiri25]

I’m praying that this doesn’t happen to chainsawman since that basically has the avengers of animators, even from opm season 1. But I wouldn’t be surprised since mappa could explode at any moment with the amount of projects

[@forgottenrelics1197]

Yeah, Attack on Titan, Vinland Saga, Jujutsu Kaisen...I'm surprised they were able to get as many big names as they did for CSM. Although at this point overstretching is just the norm for Mappa.

[@Ameno-Sagiri25]

@@forgottenrelics1197 all of those are great animated anime, but with csm it seems that’s going to have more detail and physics with the shots, correct me if I’m wrong but do you think they could give csm season 2 to another studio while some of the people behind csm season 1 help out while the crew of csm 1 work on let’s say season 3, it’s more guessing from me

[@carloscauan7967]

The president of MAPPA himself approached Shueisha to ask for the adaptation. It wouldn't make sense for them to dump the project they themselves asked to make.

[@user-og6pb6dd5p]

@@Ameno-Sagiri25 all of those projects have different teams. And btw Mappa is producing CSM themselves. They opened a New studio just for CSM. And as The director said they created a good environment for animators. And btw they wanted to hire new animators and freelancers for CSM. And they have control over time schedule and budget because there is no production committee (just mappa themselves). That,s why they are Talking their time and didn,t rush IT. And the the staff in CSM are getting more pay than kyoani and ghibli. And all of the staff is top tier. They have one of the best Japanese work conditions for CSM bro. And if you are Talking about aot. It,s not their fault that they had a shitty schedule for AOT (8 months for part 1 and almost a year for part 2 for such a hard project like AOT)

[@forgottenrelics1197]

@@Ameno-Sagiri25 I meant that's what they're in the middle of making but like Carlos mentioned I highly doubt they would drop it, even if it meant stretching resources thin.

[@judsonhester1407]

Wow. I had already thought that S2 animation was passable and even pretty good at times, but I had no idea that their time budget was that tiny. I can only imagine how godlike this season would've been if they had 5x the time they were given

[@user-og6pb6dd5p]

Who talked about budget?

[@rojeriofumasa]

Hope they get enough time to make it look amazing for season 3, i dont mind waiting if what i get is on the level of season 1