Why We CAN'T Give Away Our Boat [Update] Learning the Lines

[@michaelbaugh4596]

Mike Baugh Hello Randi & Jordan.....currently deployed in Kabul, Afghanistan; and have enjoyed your videos. My dad was into airboats, and when he sold his medical practice, he purchased a brand new one from Diamond Back in FL.....stunning boat! Well, I got his old 19' Crumby fiberglass boat with an old Air Force 472 Cadillac Limo V-8 monster on it....spent several months just researching everything I could learn about the newer boats and technology; then started planning and tore the boat down to the hull and rebuilt the entire craft, to include the engine, new warp drive system, and even designed and wired the electrical. When I finished, it was beautiful!! I had more fun planning and rebuilding that boat than I ever would have had simply buying a new one. Skip the Kits!! Keep looking and find a boat you both like....then commence upon the journey to build your dream boat!! Sit down and plan each step of the rebuild...make it fun and creative! It will be the most fulfilling project you have every accomplished....hey, go for at least a 50 to 60 footer....bigger gives you more options. Perhaps the CoronaVirus will be over in a few months and I can get back home to Georgia! God Bless!

[@svechappe6075]

Once you have the funds, find a used but late model version of what you want. You'll avoid the huge depreciation hit that takes place in the first 2-3 years and can tweak the boat with a light refit without spending a ton of time or additional funds. I think that's the model that makes the most sense these days. Remember, a brand new boat has to be equipped with a lot of additional expense. It would be very likely that a new $300K boat will end up costing you another $100K to $150K to get it cruising. Purchase a 3-5 year old one for $225K and it will have most of that equipment that you would otherwise have to buy. Thus, your new sail-away boat will cost $450K and your 3-5 year used one will cost maybe $275K to sail away. The depreciation curve on the added equipment is even steeper than on the boat itself, so let the prior owner take those hits.

[@cliveruffle6016]

Glad you are safe in these weird times. Thank you for the update. I wish you luck on Freebie and choice of new boat. I'll look out for new videos! All the best.

[@hidesertmusic]

Just curious Jordan, how much of what you did on Freebie did you have previous experience doing? Look back at when you first started on your first boat up until today, You will be surprised at how much you have learned, what you have accomplished and how even your speech has changed as you have progressed. I’m obviously not related to you, but I am proud of what you have done, proud of how well you and Randi work as a team, and how proud of the way Randi has supported you through this adventure. Great job on all fronts!

[@venomguysydney]

great points about the Seawind 1160 , the galley down you will really start to appreciate once you start to live on the boat full time. Having the galley away from your lounge make sense if you are on the boat for longer periods

[@stargatepioneer]

Hey that's me! 2:05 Thanks for the video update guys. Have fun with the distance learning! I'm sure you two will knock it out of the park! My daughter is actually creating content for her students right now. So proud of her.

[@ianallan2337]

I love the concept: Give away your boat to save money! So true.

[@edwiser3547]

I have a friend in Norfolk who makes good money chopping up free and/or abandoned sailboats.

[@dtonvista]

For a slightly older Catamaran I like the Lagoon 41, they use an axle drive from the engine to the props, a lot less maintenance

[@z_actual]

I wouldnt mess with a kit catamaran, you are looking at two years build after having worked quite awhile to get there. Theres a vast difference between a Seawind and other French or S African cats which are much bigger with lots more volume If I were you and Im not, Id look at ex charter cats which will be coming off the market soon via failing companies in the present crisis. T Their loss is your gain, theyre just companies These would be Lagoon 38-44, Fountaine Pajot etc. Usually 3-4 double cabins not ideal for live aboard but a world away from Freebie have fun with your lives, stay safe

[@kylehutchison4216]

SV Zaya I hear you! I follow other channels that have gone that route and seems like you’re getting a sea tested cat with several upgrades from trial runs. How would recommend searching for cats this way?

[@z_actual]

@@kylehutchison4216 I would be looking for bare boat companies that are falling over right now due to CV19 pressures, because to save themselves the first thing they will try to do is get rid of their old stock which should be what you are looking for. They will be under pressure to commit to deals and cash up or look forward to filing for bankrupsy. I dont know of any way to do that then to stay plugged into the dockside chatter, or even competitor bare boat charters who know a guy, that knows a guy etc. Once people get to hear you have raised an interest in buying a boat you might get approached that way. So go prepared with some kind of business card and make sure you make your intentions clear, thats likely for the local markets, Florida, San Diego, San Fran. Local markets are attractive because the boats are already here and US flagged. Other thing to check out is the boat market around bare boat charter areas, places like Mexico Panama or the Virgins or St Martin etc, because they are further from obvious markets and it costs money to crew them and get them back to the US were prices would be better. Clearly that means a research budget because you are going to have to fly in with tools and buy the girl a new hat :) Be advised that charter boats can go through a lot of abuse so try to make sure you check as much as you can before committing to survey out of the water. The really far out places might be out of reach as the Mediterranean, Great Barrier Reef, New Caledonia Fiji Tahiti are going to be expensive by air and theres a need to know a lot about a boat before committing to such costs, although in water survey may be more ideal preliminary. Australia NZ prices probably prohibitive as theyre usually 1.5x to 2x+ US$ anyway. However US$ is worth much more there being 0/6 parity. But all hardwar you need is much more expensive. Anywho those are my immediate thoughts, ... cheers

[@nez3009]

@@z_actual I have to agree. Charter cats can be pretty good for a couple like them. It's not like they won't have a place to sleep if they decide to change one of the births to something else while they live on it. Plus with the one on the way now.

[@kevinlytle6215]

Thanks for the update and we all understand. I have some thoughts on content. Spend a little time discussing the electric drive system, battery and power management technology, and the things you would do differently if you had known what you know now, boat selection criteria with explanations of each of the positives and negatives and how you would weigh these when making a decision. Also you could revisit some of the tours of older boats and the new ones you have seen and point things out that stood out and why? There must be tons of information you could package in a format that would work on your channel like discussing from web site data, sailboat models you haven't looked at and features that just don't or really do make sense etc. You are both creative and engaging. You have the excuse now to delve into more detailed topics to help us understand from your perspective much that couldn't be included in the normal video segments. Be safe, be happy, and know that you don't need to apologize. Anything truly good is always worth the wait.

[@stephenatkinson7805]

Found your channel and I just wanted to say thank you for sharing your Freebie adventure I really enjoyed it. The boat tours are really interesting even if the technical stuff goes right over my head I'm not a boat person at all ... but what a treat to be part of that fabulous adventure. It was a wonderful place to escape these weird and dangerous times driving a bus through central London right now ... eerily deserted though it may be. I don't understand haters on social media at all. You did an excellent job it was a great show I binge watched every freebie episode. Can't wait to see your next boat and be part of the next adventure. Kind regards ... Steve.

[@captainbob406]

Congrats to the top 5! In terms of your future "make or buy" decision... I recommend "Buy"! Why....? Building a boat takes a long time. You can be on the water much quicker with new or recent production boat. If you build, you will find the investment you planned to build the boat with will increase beyond the plan (usually, by a lot!). This is guaranteed. It always happens. Prices of things go up, you make a change to your initial outfit plan, etc... Best of luck in what you decide. Stay safe. Hope we all get through this CV issue quickly.

[@M-Swede]

Unfortunately for the current owners, there may well be plenty of boats available at a very reasonable price in the coming months.

[@killytoo]

M Swede judging by past major recessions you can but a boat for peanuts. I have a bag of rice and two toilet tools and will swap for your new 40’ boat lol

[@ctnvisual5281]

Very appropriate response. Boat market will be flooded with new boats going for dirt cheap soon.

[@davidsimmons1105]

I really like the way you guys give a boat tour! I've tried to watch various other tours. It drives me mad when a tour guide will gush insensibly for 5 minutes about a table or something. You guys do a really good job.

[@drwindsurf]

Congratulations to the top 5! Thank you for running this giveaway, It made me realize I need to buy a boat sooner instead of later. I hope you got a laugh from the introduction to my video - Thank you so much! Stay safe and healthy 😊👍

[@LearningtheLines]

Thanks for entering Jeffrey!

[@Jasper_Seven]

You guys are adorable. You need to be working on getting some 1160 sailing demos and record those experiences! I'd also love to see a tour of the Southerly 54, and again if you could do a segment underway, that would be awesome. Everyone realizes that they can see broker's videos and company brochure videos, but y'all put a real comfortable human touch to it, and ask real questions about the details, the practicalities, and the brief thoughts on what repairs might be needed, easy or difficult. Good luck with all of it!

[@willf6567]

Hello Guys- actually visited a boat you had both had shown in a past video. Having had over 20 boats over the years and upgrading offshore oil rigs for a living my advice would be never buy a new boat. Of the 20 plus boats I have owned and upgraded I did purchase ONE brand boat. I have also helped many friends buy new. A boat is built at a factory where the manufacture purchases 80% of the items new that are then installed in the new boat. They in turn fabricate the hull and deck, interior and then install all the high dollar equipment. The reason I am saying this is that a new boat has to be used for some time (from 50 hours to 100 hours ) before all the small details and "bugs" are worked out. The problems will all be in warranty but you will loose a lot of boating time while the various mechanics are completing final work at your dock. A good used boat that was well maintained with between 200 hours to 1000 hours will have most of the systems either repaired, replaced, or upgraded and some run time. A used boat will also have had the first or second depreciation paid by someone else so the day you want to sell the boat or value it that lower cost can be factored. Also remember that living in South Florida and the keys is the worlds' playground for boats. I once was going to bring a boat here to sell and my good Broker friend said bringing a boat to sell in Florida is like bringing ice here. "There is ice at every stop". Having said that you have Fort Lauderdale in a few hours drive that can provide any possible part, tradesman, and companies to assist you for an upgrade or re-fit. I have used Chuck at SailorMan for tons of used parts. In summary I am not knocking new boat manufacture or new boat sales. They just don't have the depth, the staff or the ability to test each and every system from air conditioning to heads. It will you both doing the testing. Buying from an owner will provide you with the actual boat history and what was done along the way. I also have found that most past owners have given me their cell number and in a tough time a fast text and they can tell me what to look for or what they did in a similar situation. Seems most boaters are happy to help and is what we all as boaters seem to have is time to help other boaters. Sorry for the long winded message but with a 50 foot MotorYacht almost completed to sell, 4 dinghy's (can't have enough of these ) and a 56 foot steel hull motor sail in progress my gut tells me you guys will fully enjoy to take someones good boat and make it your new home. The current situation is not a good one for boating but you may find a small silver lining by even getting some owner financing along the way. Keep up the good work-- and soon we will all be back to what we do best- explore and share the dream.

[@umaymahanykahfernandes6799]

If someone ever gave me a boat like this my dreams would come true. The saddest dreams our broken dreams. Whoever is gifted the gift of sailing remember to love your boat and respect the water.

[@slobodantrifun8911]

Hi people, first and foremost I would like to pardon my self for the following comment, since it may be long. Also I apologize for any typos that I do. I am from Serbia ( Europe) and i came across the channel while looking to a different boat things and adventures. I have to say that you people are awesome, and I LIKE Jordan and his work ideas and actual work, as well as approach to some problems he faced, but I also must confess that I L O V E Randi and the way she is working without being afraid to get down and dirty, with all power and regular tools she was using, shoulder to shoulder with her man. And trust me there are not to many women like her out there :) You guys are inspiring a lot of people out there, of your age or younger to try and do the same while they are young enough to really enjoy life. On that note I must also say that I hate you guys ( in a good way ) since now, after all the episodes my sons , and I have 2, are now waiting for covid to pass so that we can start working on a boat for our family, witch in turn means that all the money i saved is gone :P So, sorry again for this loooong comment, love you people, keep up the good work, oh and Jordan make SURE that you take good care of the jewel you have beside you in form of that 6 foot angel, or else..... :) Kind regards Slobodan

[@Guvrunner]

I've been watching guys for a while now. Have you guys ever sailed? If so, where? I did see one short trip, did I miss something?

[@1STGeneral]

Come on their teachers I'm sure they've calculated for turning around and a device to slow down in case the earth is round even the drag of water wouldn't be enough to slow down the backside

[@scyz2807]

I just responded to aaron's comment. In the process I had the idea of you two buying a good used or new 14-16 foot sailing dingy. You could probably find one in your local area. With it you could (without much or any exposure to the virus) begin basic YT sailing lessons. After all, where do you start "Learning The Lines" but on a small, basic sailboat. I'm sure you could sail it locally with very little problem, in appropriate weather. Your viewers who are contemplating getting a sailboat (especially if they have younger kids) would love these kinds of basic HOW TO videos. Their kids (if involved) could also learn the basics right there with mom and dad. Scott W

[@Cajundaddydave]

Plus 1 on a Sea wind with electric drives and diesel gen. It is an extraordinary sailing boat with good sea keeping and a touch of speed. I expect this will serve you well.

[@rickbarrett2127]

Such a shame you can't have 5 boats to give to good homes. Keep up all the good things you've been doing. Thanks

[@biker6977]

Hello! This is Caroline, I'm super excited to be a finalist! Keep the list of those people, if I win (fingers crossed) my little CD 28 is on a trailer and ready to go to a new home. This covid 19 is changing things. I love that you are wanting to do the electric motor again, that's something I want to do as well. I've enjoyed your videos from the beginning and look forward to seeing more as you can get them done. I really enjoyed all the DIY videos, maybe, once the world gets back to normal, you could go to boat yards and talk repairs with different trades.

[@HousesBuiltTiny]

Carolyn, so who got Freebe?

[@cliftontibbits6644]

Nice, An act of kindness goes along ways and brings our world some light during these difficult times, may your days and needs be filled ,take care,be safe and continue to pay it foward to those in need,good day to ya...

[@kimsummers7877]

I have just subscribed after watching many of your videos over the last few months. I had one thought that since you have seen so many different craft for your walk-thru's, you might be able to make a montage of your favorite parts and show us the features you would focus on in your next boat. Be Safe and Fair winds!

[@havfungetlotsdone1112]

Suggestions for content while we are all cooped up and on land. Lets talk safety! Radios, overboard kits, firstaid, all from the perspective of blue water cruising. You are both such a pleasure to watch and learn from that this could round out your content. Show video chats with experts and add your own insights. All the best to you and to the dreamers everwhere. Stay safe.

[@mattevans-koch9353]

Thank you for the update on the Freebie give away. Hope the online teaching goes well for you and your kids. I would like to see more detail about your possible cat that you are looking at and any changes you might look at when you order the new boat if there are options you can change. Take care, stay well.

[@kjonesy4142]

Excited for you guys & your new chapters!! Good luck to the future owner of Freebie, sounds like some great entries. 🍻

[@MausMasher54]

I still suggest that you should finish up the bathroom, entry steps, and then place it in a marina to rent out as a waterborne apartment(also, take the motor with the batteries)...

[@davidkasday5484]

Not all used boats need a ton of work. Any used boat needs work, but it doesn't have to be as extensive as what you've gone through on Freebie. If you bought a new boat, you would want to make changes/improvements to better fit your life style. After a year, or two, there would be things that you would need to fix/replace. It's a boat living in a harsh environment constantly under stress. Buying new is nuts. You lose a ton of money the moment your take possession. Find a boat in decent condition and fix what is necessary to start cruising. Bit by bit you can make all the improvements you want but at least you are sailing/cruising/enjoying it now instead of a couple (or more) years from now. I've been a mono hull sailor all my life (last one was an Ericson 39) and now I wouldn't consider anything other than a multi hull (preferably a trimaran). Sailing fast is definitely more fun than sailing slow. Not rolling like crazy at an anchorage is wonderful. Being able to sail with a minimum of heel is great. The ability to pull up to a beach is terrific, etc., etc.

[@VonBluesman]

I live in Louisiana and over 3 hours away from New Orleans, the highest concentration of the coronavirus in our state, and Florida,Texas, and several other states have put a public travel ban on Louisiana residents, Florida gov said the police will arrest us and fine us $1,000.00 plus a 14 day voluntary quarantine. If you are hauling supplies or are working for the medical crisis, that is the only way to enter the state without the restrictions.

[@RVLifeNOW]

They all sound like worthy recipients of Freebie. Whoever you give it away to will be a lucky new owner! -Rebecca on SV Brick House

[@never2oldadventures]

You guys keep up the great work. I bowed out of entering the giveaway for Freebie simple because the project was beyond me at this time. We are all struggling during this time. Excited to see what is coming in your future. Keep safe! Until our adventures cross, Jack and Billie

[@NonSleeper_Occasional_Thinker]

Q and A shows. Rewind/look back, boat previews oc a sea wind with drawings or similar. . We just like one of you needing out and the other smiling and cheering us up. Stay safe guys. We will stick around.

[@edwiser3547]

OMG, so much work went into your selection process. No one can ever accuse you of being lazy. You both work hard whether on a boat or on this channel.

[@mandmmilling3716]

If you liked the 1160, you should look at the new bali catspace. Little bigger than the 1160, galley up and will be close to the same price range.

[@edwiser3547]

If you don't buy it right, you will never sell it right. I hope you do not get involved in kits either. production catamarans have good resale value for a good reason. These off-the-wall jobs are a money pit.

[@gemman1]

You guys need to stay safe and healthy. I am working from home and staying.in. Be safe and don't worry about showing boats for now.

[@edwiser3547]

Please do not get involved in building a boat. Many, maybe most, homebuilt multihulls end up abandoned in a boatyard, like that Outremer in RI. This was popular back in the 1960s and 1970s but very few people even attempt to do this anymore. Boatyard costs are prohibitive for one thing, but after years of labor and burning through tons of cash, you usually end up with a boat with no resale value. I once built an 8' sailing pram for a girlfriend's son. Boat turned out well and I published a magazine article about it but I also swore never again.

[@SteelDoesMyWill]

Ed Wiser, all relevant points but now ask yourself why is it like this? Why can't there be a system in the US similar to AUS where a boat can be built under Survey to ensure all standards are met and the boat can used for commercial purposes as well as insured?

[@edwiser3547]

@@SteelDoesMyWill Hi Luke, You can do exactly that and build to ABS or Lloyds standards, but it is not wise in recreational boats for very obvious reasons. Professional boatbuilders make major mistakes all the time. You should see some of the terrible engineering I have found in production boats. Can you imagine how much tougher it is for the newbie? Amateur builders are going to make mistakes. Lessons learned cannot be applied to make later boats better and cheaper. No economy of scale. They cannot buy at the same prices as manufacturers. The hull does not come out of a faired one-piece mold. Their skills, hence their results, are unknown and often lacking. Financing can be impossible and resale is difficult because the product has no recognition in the marketplace. It is a lot like a credit rating. You may be the most honest person in the world, but if you have never borrowed money and paid it back then you have no credit history. Lenders have no credentials to judge your credit risk so they rightly assume the worst. Same with a one-off. Why do you think modern warships are so expensive? Limited runs.

[@MegaDirtyberty]

So because you don't like building a boat you demand others also don't build boats. Well the world doesn't work like that champ, people are free to do what they want, it's called free will.

[@edwiser3547]

I have read a number of your comments in the past and it appears you are somewhat dysfunctional, maybe deranged. Evidently people are not free to express an opinion or give advise in your dark and dingy world. Your screen name says it all - Mega Dirty. lol.

[@MegaDirtyberty]

@@edwiser3547 ROFL So you admit you have been stalking me through my comments, now tell me who is dysfunctional and deranged, by the way you don't appear to be wiser at all.

[@markbernier8434]

Top priority is for you two and your families to stay safe. As far as content goes, you will think of something. Be creative. You teach. Teach us something. Don't even think of building a boat. With the current situation there will be boats galore going for a song in thee months or so. Already charter companies are citing force majeure and not paying the owners. The owners will have to unload for whatever they can get. If you insist on building, or talking about it, reach out to "sailing emerald steel" and "SV Seeker" for a better view of the incredible amount of work needed. Another commenter made my point as well, you build for 2, 3, 4 YEARS and don't sail and the value of what you have built is far less than what you spent on materials. As in so many things, the hand craftsman simply cannot compete with the shop with 5 million in tooling. The exceptions to this are people like Leo Sampson (rebuilding Tally Ho) and Mads (Sail Life) where the dream is to build a boat. That is to say building is not a means to an end but a major part of the dream. For them it is following the dream on their own terms. Financially they are both crazy.

[@tomd.3082]

I'm stuck in a similar situation. Have a deposit on my home and a boat lined up, but can't do a damn thing until this pandemic is resolved. It is what it is.

[@walterpcurry606]

You guys are great. I like your idea of you builing your oen boat. I think you will then have the boat you really need and love. Ive watched your show since you started it. And its great. Keep it up.

[@kush6513]

I like seeing all the boats in your tours. nice job. I stumbled across the first video in your channel. Its cute.

[@allencrooks4426]

I would love to see a video of all your "Out Takes" I think everyone would love to see the funny stuff that never made it to the videos!

[@robertfrederick9061]

I have watched your videos from the beginning & while I applaud your interest in using non internal combustion auxiliary engines the footprint needed for solar exceeds the space reasonably available on any blue water sailing cat under45 feet. If you use electric outboards powered by LiFePO4 battery banks you still need either a diesel genset or a hybrid solar/diesel recharging system which increases the complexity. There exists Yanmar 50 HP diesel outboard engines that could be used in either single or twin wells that would minimize the sponson draft when tilted up. Pure electric auxiliary propulsion & its requirements for other than coastal day sailing use are just not feasible unless you have very DEEEP pockets or a stable of street corner entreprenaurs.

[@TomJoyce]

robert frederick 100% agree. We all want to be eco friendly but you cannot beat the energy density of diesel or the reliability of Yanmar engines and AGM batteries. I would still get as much solar as you can to charge the house batteries but stick with Diesel engine.

[@JohnDoe-fz5cz]

i like the girl with the blue jacket that is trimmed in grey. there is an earnestness about her that comes through, in spite of the fact that i am sure, she probably didn't make a very effective verbal plea. yeah, i like her. i think Freebie would mean more to her than any of the others. as for the people with small children: yes, they are loveable couples. but i remember when my kids were young. looking back on it now, although i didn't realize it at the time, the best time of my life was when my kids were young. there was so much joy at the time, that a boat may have been nice, but honestly, it would have paled by comparison to just being with them. well, your boat, your decision. just threw in my two cents.

[@petelandry1149]

Hey Randi and Jordan... Well, I wanted to say “thanks” for providing me with some great binge watching during #Covid19. I tripped over your channel quite by accident and watched all of your 135ish episodes over the month. Now that I’m caught-up, I’m a bit disappointed that you weren’t able to actually complete Freebie, or really do any sailing... I kept expecting a trip. Oh well. Maybe the most interesting thing, that is totally aside from the boating theme of your videos, was experiencing Jordan’s ever-changing hair styles 😂 ...really loved the long hair on you! Anyway... clearly the sailing story has run its course for now and you’re seemingly wrapping things up for a while. Wishing you both all the very best. Hopefully your next adventure is a success and we can tag along!

[@richkemp8521]

Check out MJ sailing. They are also selling there boat and building a catamararan. They seem to have done a lot of research. May be a good source of info. Best of luck, stay safe.

[@berg8970]

Not to be rude but if a refit isn't your cup of tea then building one definitely wont be.

[@garyleonard4009]

Hi guy's any chance of doing a boat tour of a westsail 42 or 43. Thanks Gary 👍😁🇿🇦

[@ianallan2337]

Buy a completed boat for a defined cost. Build a kit boat for an infinite cost. Believe it!

[@edwiser3547]

lmao. This is the voice of experience.

[@NationalEMR]

I think im going to buy a pearson 26' its in st pete. Found it on facebook..glad that i found this channel

[@Nerd3927]

All boat prices will plummet no doubt. On catamarans.... it is like owning two boats. All expenses sky-rocket. I am very happy on my 41ft steel ketch. I paid 10.000,- Euro for it. It needs work, but at 51 I now make money in the winter and am free from April to September. Life is simple and very cheap. I can easy keep up with the maintenance, harbor fees are doable. You will need to be rich. I am living like a king below welfare level :-)

[@danbradley1943]

If you build it we will watch. Lol. Stay safe.

[@daveamies5031]

Content Idea: Boat "virtual" tours of catamaran kits and self build plans, you could do one model per episode, would require some research to get photos/videos for the virtual tours, you could also go into the number of hours required for the build, skill level required, land/shed space required (and the rental cost in your area of the land/shed for the time to build) cost of rigging etc. most kits/designers have multiple models so change designers/company each episode but come back for the next model after doing a few other designers. this idea should hopefully give you enough content for at least 6 months.

[@bourquebuiltful]

I love the idea of having electric outboards on a catamaran. One of my favorite is the Maine cat 38. I also joined Electric sailboat group on face book. Lots of people doing conversations and sharing their knowledge

[@jimslittleboat4388]

How did that sweat equity concept work in the past?

[@christian171263]

hi guys, nice videos, I am Cris leaving and working in Italy. You are loocking for a kit catamaran, I think is a nice idea, but did you think it could be an idea to take a good cat what is available just to complete? ....

[@netpackrat]

You two have the brains and the ability for a build, but unfortunately those are not the most important attributes required. With two abandoned refit projects to your credit thus far, you are simply not good candidates for completing a full build, and particularly not of such a huge project. You are both rational human beings and obviously understand the concept of "sunk costs" very well. If you attempt a new build, you'll once again reach the point where you realize that you still have a huge amount of time and money needed to be put in the project, and nothing you do is going to recover what you have already spent on it. And at that point, fatigued by months or years of building, your rationality will once again overcome the desire to finish the project. Maybe you'll still want to sail by then, or maybe you will be over it completely. Hopefully your marriage will survive it. I say this not because I want to doomsay or discourage you (I love big projects), but because I want you to be successful. Being able to finish a huge project requires a certain amount of stubborness, to refuse to consider what would be the most rational alternative of throwing in the towel and buying an adequate alternative that is turn-key or nearly so. MJ Sailing is an excellent example of this. Their refit of Elements went south almost from the beginning... They learned very early on, that the boat was not anywhere near how it had been represented, and I am sure there was a point where they probably could have cut their losses, and purchased another boat similar to what they'd had before, and resumed cruising no worse (and maybe better) off financially than they ended up at the end of the refit. They did not do this. They put their heads down, and powered through the rebuild on sheer stubborness, and finished with virtually all of their savings gone, a boat worth maybe 2/3 of what they had invested, and both of them 2 years older. They'll be going into the catamaran build eyes open, and with the confidence that they can finish it no matter what, because they have been there and done that. Maybe you guys have that in you too, but to commit everything to finding out in the face of some amount of evidence to the contrary is not really a plan for success. You guys are in a little different situation from Matt and Jessica too which works to both your advantage or disadvantage. They have the earned confidence and track record already, but they are enough older than you that starting over isn't really an option, once they commit it will be do or die for them, and best case they will probably be in their early 40s when they finish. You guys are young enough that you can fail, rebuild savings, and still realize your dream of cruising in your 30s. That's a great position to be in, and you obviously have a lot of confidence in yourselves, but there's a difference between that and having proven confidence, i.e. you having proven to yourselves that you can get through anything. You are going to need that to get yourselves through something as ambitious as a new build. My suggestion to you, would be to start with a less ambitious project that is still major enough to test your stubborness to complete it, and then take all of the confidence, knowledge, and experience that you earn into the big build. Build something like a little day cruiser up to 16+ feet or so, and finish it. It will make for great video, and how long it takes will tell you a lot about whether you should tackle the big build. If you get it done anywhere in the range of 6 months to a year and a half, then rock on into the catamaran build. If you don't finish it, or it takes you 5 years, then you will have learned a relatively cheap lesson and you'll also know that you need to keep saving your money and shopping for a near-new production cat.

[@SC-vw1nx]

Netpackrat too long to read ..can you call me if I gave u my number

[@mariemorrissey9378]

Great update! Best Wishes!⛵⚓⛵

[@steveporter6151]

Could you guys have boat owners do videos of their boats and you guys do a tour with your voice over. Either way, I’m sticking close to your guys channel. Stay Safe Stay Clean

[@donaldjohnson3265]

I would love to have a free boat. God knows I could never afford to buy one. My wife & I are on SS & would love doing some sailing. Please keep us in mind.

[@Johnsouthshore]

Maine Cat 30... quality.. and a great builder.. nice design

[@canoelew2288]

I really don't want to be negative, but the background music should be quietly in the background. Really like your videos and am now on #15 or 16. Thanks for all the the great tips. I'm being positive, really, I promise......

[@duncan.5228]

A lot of sense being talked about cheap boats coming on the market. You will be spoilt for choice soon. Wait you're time. You will end up with your dream boat.

[@daveamies5031]

If your teaching from home involves video conferencing you might want a movable partition to put between your desks or put one desk in another room. could get quite noisy if your both on audio/video calls at the same time, it's already been an issue for me when working from home. Good luck with the catamaran hunt, I'm curious to hear your thoughts on the spirited designs (www.spiriteddesigns.com.au/designs) and they look like less hours than the Schoining and Grainger kits, I like the look of the spirited 380, which would give Randi a galley up.

[@donavanzeh4254]

How bout a vid on the different sails and there uses. Maybe one on sailing lingo. You could call it 'Blowboating for Dummies"!

[@rodneytaylor6261]

Still can't believe you got it for free

[@travelingtimothy]

I think you should start from scratch so we all get a chance. I have some life challenges and this is my dream. Have to do it now or never.

[@maccoolmac5191]

My question , when you hit bottom, which would survive better. My option the Cat rudder hits and causes damage to the resounding area and water entree. Monohulls the keel should take the hit. Keep the Monohulls.

[@kevchard5214]

Hey guys I would rather wait for this corona virus to stop before you risk your lives to show us boats. Florida is a hot spot right now and I am glad you are in the keys (its safer there than the rest of Florida) and it is locked down. Stay safe down there!!!

[@HRDBMW]

I think it would make an interesting video, an exploration of the kits you have investigated.

[@careystravels]

They can take the videos with your input and then you can interview them about the boat?

[@leafrom]

I know this is a very serious situation but for some levity >>> Is Crisis the new Interesting?

[@trich1526]

I may have posted this on another one of your videos, but you may be interested in checking out "A 30', $6000.00 cruising catamaran" by Roy Chandler. He built his from two used racing hulls and it made for an interesting read even as a boy.

[@SailingDecorum]

Great stuff

[@drifter0016]

Can someone please advise me @t looking to maybe buy this would this be ok for the ocean??? cant seem to fund much research

[@7drobin]

Buy a boat you can affort NOW and suffice to your needs. And do go sailing (or cut the ties and go cruising asap). Or you will never do. Due to this unfortunate calamity, there will be brilliant bargains soon, I feel.

[@bucknaykid5821]

Are you guys interested in rebuilding and customizing an older cat? I know of one here in florida that could be a very interesting project. I would grab it personally but my health wouldnt allow me to do a lot of the physical work needed. Let me know and Ill show you the listing.

[@doclowhorn5957]

God bless hope she finds a good home

[@whyistherumgonewrightstory8384]

I need a freebie. My vote is for k that’s a great story and karma

[@barrellcooper6490]

Video idea. Work with channel viewer that have boats to shoot their own video and then send it to you. You take the raw footage and edit it with your comments into video you post. I have the O'Day 30 named Endeavor. I bought it in 2013 got it out of the boat yard sales it to the marina and it's never left the marina. My schedule and life have been horrible for having time to do things with this boat. I seen to go backwards with it

[@Abrothacreates]

Just hold it till next year spring or summer and we'll be ready make sure it's below 10,000

[@jamesmillspaugh7101]

Have you consider a trimaran? They appear to be super fast, more stable than a catamaran and most appear to be trailerable.

[@jimanderson2518]

As I analyze your option it would be an slam dunk Build your own Cat reasons #1 your young enough #2 you can spread the cost over a 3 year period #3 when your done you own her out right . Biggy The only issue is do you have friends and is your skill level ready for a challenge? You both seem to have a flexible schedule ....that is simply the best asset period. Watch as you will see a dip in prices in the coming year then a steep climb $$$$ . Timing will be worth $$$$ Fairwinds from the @captains.chair

[@terrybray2874]

Hi Guys. Just a suggestion but how about a look at how you do the online teaching, Almost shoẃing us your day jobs. Takr care and stay safe,

[@SV-DEDICATED]

wooop wooop Port Charlotte !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@goulash75]

We need our fix of DIY...I hope you filmed making that desk. ^^ I look forward to finding out about the new freebie owner and resumption of normal viewing. :)

[@thomas-jc1ce]

Miss you!!!!!!

[@gilapolonio]

You guys could show us some of the videos the Freebee candidates sent to you. What do you think?

[@scottstevison1593]

So, who won the boat?

[@kennethcaro1680]

I like it

[@frankgreezy7998]

Jordan just wanted to say "You're a lucky man!!!" Randy is hot!!!😜😜😜

[@Abrothacreates]

We'll take the boat if you don't want to give it away my wheel I mean my family and me but just have her on hold till ready okay

[@d.e303-anewlowcosthomebuil7]

lots of great deals at the auctions

[@timothyboles6457]

So who got the boat????

[@sirroberttaylor9969]

I an\m So Readdy for that boat. On the water in Myrtle Beach SC

[@raybradley1627]

What is the tax issue with a give away 14 percent of value report to irs???

[@cefasmantovani]

I am the most perfect future owner... but I am not allowed to bring him to Brazil😂😂