Why We Need The Pope

On this episode of Catholic Feedback, Keith welcomes the author of the book Pope Peter, Joe Heschmeyer to discuss why the doctrine of the papacy is so critical to Jesus' plan for his Church and the world.
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[@marcia7904]

We need to pray for our Pope. 🙏

[@rosiegirl2485]

Joe Heshmyers is absolutely who you want to turn to for honest "Pope info!" And he gives it to you in a relatable way! 🌹

[@GrandmaLynn]

I missed the live broadcast but still clapping! 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻

[@kjm88tm]

One of the most informative and interesting podcasts I’ve seen! Thank you Brother’s in Christ!!

[@KeithNester]

Thank you so much!!

[@jeremiahong248]

Because he has the keys to the Kingdom but we don't. Because he has divine authority to bind and loosen but we don't Because he is the rock but we ain't. Because Jesus ask him 3 times to feed His sheep but we weren't asked

[@OrthoLou]

First 2, yes. Last 3, that was only Peter, not every one of his successors...

[@georgios7191]

@@OrthoLou No that also applies to all Peter’s successors. Judas had a successor in acts 1:15-23, Jesus said to observe the teachings of the Pharisees on the seat of Moses in Matthew 23:1-3. The Greek word Matthew used for seat is kathedra.

[@TriciaPerry-mz7tc]

Lies. God never sent a Pope

[@jeremiahong248]

@@TriciaPerry-mz7tc You don't know your Bible!!! The papacy is in the bible. Dont be blind to the Truth !!! Christianity is not a buffet, choosing what you like to believe whilst discarding the others that you dont

[@marcia7904]

Thank you for this information, I’m always asked why we need the Pope and all I say is why do we need a President?

[@charmingtheresa1621]

Marcia, I agree with you..

[@GrandmaLynn]

Great answer!! 👍🏻

[@ContendingEarnestly]

Our constitution article 2 mentions the president, the bible doesn't mention a pope. Apples and oranges.

[@nariaaninpoc8213]

@@ContendingEarnestly bible doesn't mention the pope because it is the pope himself who compiled that book, it is intended for Catholic worship not for any sects popped up to use.

[@ContendingEarnestly]

@@nariaaninpoc8213 Youre hilarious.

[@richardmonroe1180]

Please pray for Brayla,Bobby, Nathan, Raine, Marty,Mrs.Boothby, Shannon,Marisa, Russell, Mary Ann & Rusty, Hope, Briana, Will & Gerald to be submissive to God’s Will & restored & healed by God’s Love.

[@janemartin8275]

Awesome show !!! So interesting!!

[@catholicbeth2371]

Hi Joe, I have read Pope Peter. Brilliant book on why Peter had primacy amongst the apostles. I was a little disappointed, however, that there wasn't much explaining how that authority was passed on down the line to subsequent popes. As a Catholic that seems to be the big issue for my protestant friends. Any thoughts on volume 2 to address this?

[@KeithNester]

That’s exactly what part 2 is all about on our upcoming episode

[@catholicbeth2371]

looking forward tp it

[@StevinHabba]

I LOVE YOU KEITH, thank you for bringing this guest on and all the guests you bring on and all of your insight and incredible witness of seeing the Catholic Church to be the one true Church established directly by our Lord Jesus Christ and guided by the Holy Spirit to the Glory of our Eternal Father🙏🏼⛪️🕊

[@KeithNester]

Thanks brother. I really appreciate that. God bless you.

[@Eugeneguillermo]

Question re: papacy: Shouldn’t the pope be an example of sound doctrine and Christ-like character as the main public shepherd of the flock? And if so, shouldn’t there be a process to disqualify him if he is unfit to lead as the spiritual leader? It boggles my mind how some of these guys stayed in the papacy despite their character/doctrine.

[@leonoradompor8706]

I am the modern day Virgin Mary,the modern day unstructured Female Pope *

[@Cellalu]

Great discussion!

[@jeremiahong248]

@Keith Nester. Perhaps you like to invite Austin from Gospel Simplicity to listen in as well. To him once the Papacy issue is fixed, all else falls in place.

[@ContendingEarnestly]

Then no offense to Austin, he doesn't understand catholic theology if thats all that is keeping him from swimming the tiber. The bible simply has nothing in it regarding the papacy. Hence, we don't need it.

[@coondogbob]

@@ContendingEarnestly I wouldn’t sell austin short .. he is on a journey

[@kevinmullee6578]

@@ContendingEarnestly I recommend Steve Ray's 'Upon this Rock'. He was a hardcore 'Bible Only' Christian for a long time, so comes from your background (so it sounds like). The Papacy is very biblical when properly understood, hence, we need it.

[@ContendingEarnestly]

@@coondogbob All i'm saying is that if the papacy is the only thing he needs to reconcile to become catholic then he is woefully ignorant (in the true sense of the word) of what the rcc teaches. He'd have to ignore Jesus in the eucharist, the false gospel rome preaches, the nature of penance and purgatory. The papacy is on the list but it is by far not the most important.

[@ContendingEarnestly]

@@kevinmullee6578 Sorry, but every time catholics try to prove the papacy its never from the standpoint like Paul teaches in the pastorals where we find deacon, elder and overseer. Its always a collection of verses trying to see Peter in some elevated position; 'you are peter and upon this rock', 'feed my sheep', he heads certain lists....and there ya go, peter is pope. This is the very definition of cherry picking. And its what they all do because its all they have.

[@TheJewishCatholic]

This video was amazing! Logical and completely understandable.

[@readmore4178]

We need a real Pope. A Catholic Pope. Unlike what we are suffering through now.

[@MegaMackproductions]

Anything that has anything to do with the doctrines for the salvation of men is an essential issue. Anyone who says "well X isnt an essential issue" Is not serious about their faith. How can it not be an essential issue if whether or not baptism does anything? If its essential for salvation then why would you deny it to anyone?

[@patriciahorner3017]

43:25 43:25 😮

[@ninaluz8710]

Of course without doubt, we need the Pope. We have exactly what we deserve. Peoples, we need to REPENT and on our knees “in sackcloth and ashes” God’s will be done. Return our lives to God and we will have Peace 🙏🙏🙏. Praying the Rosary daily and the precepts of our faith, for conversion of poor sinners 🙏🙏🙏

[@kensuzdoer]

Thank you for a very good talk and guest. Very interesting and informative. My only criticism for some of these guests is to please stop using the word “like” every 5 words. It becomes tedious to listen to.

[@FAMA-18]

St. Ignatius: He is also responsible for the first known use of the Greek word katholikos (καθολικός), or Catholic, meaning "universal", "complete" and "whole" to describe the Church, writing: Wherever the bishop appears, there let the people be; as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church. It is not lawful to baptize or give communion without the consent of the bishop. On the other hand, whatever has his approval is pleasing to God. Thus, whatever is done will be safe and valid. - Letter to the Smyrnaeans 8

[@acr164]

Well done! I get so fed up with youtube celebrity catholics grumbling about our Pope, who is a far better and holyer man than I am.

[@RayMullins-ry5vp]

Yall do know the Pope is a Baptist right? Like us, he goes to God directly to have his sins forgiven. Also a great Airplane joke.

[@daneajesusaporol8701]

For all the comments here who complained about Pope Francis, you should read about Pope Stephen VI who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber. But again, it's not about the man, it's about the Seat of Peter.

[@unitedwingsofliberty7899]

I’m lol Joe thst was great probably not something I should laugh at some guy smoking weed telling bishop Barron his take on philosophy lol

[@reggieorabuena6242]

Catholics should have a waiver to abstain from the covid vaccine. Currently Catholics arent being supported by the hierarchy. Please do a show about this issue.

[@loudmouthshy]

Excellent discussion. Looking forward to seeing part 2!

[@rbnmnt3341]

Show me where Jesus left the pope as his vicar. The church says we need the pope, not Jesus.

[@vandatomasik3780]

Great show

[@mikelopez8564]

Joe comes to a knife fight with a minigun and Keith is his spotter, wow! Great episode!

[@RicardoReyes]

Joe Heschmeyer brings all the Catholics to the yard? Dad lyrics sorry. Joe is incredibly knowledgeable and is able to explain anything very very well.

[@dannisivoccia2712]

The question was posed, "How are we to know what the Christian faith actually teaches?" God has given His Holy Word: "Thy word is truth." God has given the Word of God: "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us." God has given the Holy Spirit: "But when He, the Spirit of truth comes, He will guide you into all the truth." Only the Godhead is infallible. To say that anyone who has been born of the corruptible seed of Adam is infallible is treading upon some very dangerous ground.

[@ChrisVillaroman]

I am from the Philippines 🇵🇭 Keith Nester😊😇🤗

[@franaldo93]

Of Course, thank you, Keith🙏.

[@thomaswdees]

I am really struggling with the pope thing.

[@ThemagnesBaitekuki]

Who’s here in 2024 🙋🏻

[@brianl1305]

Great interview Keith. Thank you.

[@rc3088]

Thank you

[@EricAlHarb]

Hmmm... you know this is something I’ve given a lot of thought to. I am ok with it all, and we understand that Rome was preeminent amongst the churches as Orthodox. But can we really agree with infallibility of the pope? That’s the one thing that gives me pause. I affirm Petrine primacy, I affirm the preeminence of Rome, I accept unity with the Bishop of Rome. Is he infallible??? Was Peter infallible??? Why is the Pope infallible when Peter wasn’t. I’m just showing you how Orthodox think, not actually attacking Catholics, we need to think about this, all of us that cling to the ancient faith.

[@jimselimos4863]

Django, thank you, for pointing that out, i m unaware of that or any of the "right-ness" of our Faith, praying that all of us will understand in the future.

[@jeremiahong248]

@Django Ferreira-Hmong. Thank you for your comments. The Pope is not always infallible. Whatever he says on a daily basis, his sermons, his teachings etc are persuasive because he is a priest and also the leader of the Catholic Church. Persuasive but not infallible. These remains his own personal reflections and teachings just like Pope Benedict wrote in the preface to his book that he is writing in the capacity of a theologian but not the Pope. This applies even if the Pope doesn't say this explicitly. The Pope is infallible when he speaks Ex Cathedra on matters relating to faith and morals subjected to the following conditions 1. There is no new revelation. All divine revelation has been fully revealed. So no new dogmas. There can be development of doctrines but not dogmas. The Assumption of Mary is not a new dogmas but this is believed by early Church fathers as oral teaching and Sacred Traditions. 2. The Pope offcially proclaims from the Chair of Peter using the authority to bind and loosen as given by Jesus and exercising the keys to the Kingdom in Matt 16:18 given by Jesus. The keys to the Kingdom is the Prime Minister ship of Jesus's Kingdom just as the prime ministers of Jesus's ancestors - all Davidic line of kings have the keys to the Palace. 3. Proclamation is on faith and morals only. So there is a caveat and restriction of Infallibility. The Pope is not a demigod. He is human. He has faults and he goes for confession. He is infallible only using the divine authority bestowed by Jesus under the 3 conditions above.

[@jimselimos4863]

@@jeremiahong248, thanks for clearing that up!

[@MrMercuryW]

Peter was able to promulgate infallible doctrine, he did in 1st and 2nd Peter Epistles and in the Council of Jerusalem where he abolished circumcision and the dietary laws as binding to the faithful (Which he did alongside the other Apostles). But by default Peter wasn't infallible, only when acting as Master of the Faith and invoking the graces of the Holy Spirit that Jesus prayed to the Father to give Peter in Luke 22. Where He said: “Simon, Simon, listen! Satan has demanded to sift all of you (The Apostles) like wheat, but I have prayed for you that your own faith may not fail; and you, when once you have turned back, strengthen your brothers.” While all the Apostles had authority, Simon Peter received a grace unique to him. The other Apostles were also able to teach infallibly given that they were filled by the Holy Spirit in a special way more powerfully than their Bishop successors, however Peter was the Chief Apostle, the prime minister of the Kingdom of Heaven because Jesus, the King, gave Peter alone the keys of heaven. Currently the Pope can only exercise this infallible power formally and usually with the counsel of the Bishops. The other Bishops, Catholic Patriarchs and Cardinals can only teach infallibly but cannot establish new teachings binding to all the faithful unlike the Pope. They also have the authority to "Bind and Loose" regulations, disciplines and restrictions on their dioceses as long as they do not contradict definitive teachings promulgated. Infallible teachings can only be about Faith or Morals. Since Orthodox Leaders cannot officially agree on matters relating to these (Communion is a matter of Faith and Morals for instance among others) they cannot claim infallible authority. Even if they stuck solely to their earlier infallible traditions they would eventually become stagnant because new moral issues and new disagreements about the faith begin to appear (Contraception, use and development of new technology, environmental policies, church law...). If the Pope says his own theological theories and personal opinions, that is not infallible teaching unless He unequivocally proclaims it to be. If a Pope has grave sins and is generally a bad person the power of the Holy Spirit will prevent this Pope from destroying the Church by formally teaching error or validating sin. Infallible power is protected by the Holy Spirit, the Church and the Pope are very careful in using it, for this reason a Pope will rarely use this power unless he has consulted the Cardinals, Eastern Catholic Patriarchs and Bishops, similar to how Peter gathered all the Apostles in the Council of Jerusalem, only promulgating doctrine by "himself" in his Apostolic Letters, in which he may have consulted his community in Rome and Bishop successors who later became Popes: Linus, Cletus and Clement. In the case a definitive teaching is about to be proclaimed which could lead the faithful into Hell, the Holy Spirit would have to intervene and stop the Pope in order to protect the Church. It was explicitly stated by Jesus: "And I tell you, you are Peter(Petros/Kepha), and on this rock(Petra/Kepha) I will build my church, and the gates of Hades(Hell) will not prevail against it." Mt 16:18 If the original Greek text "Hades" is taken to mean as the realm of the dead then it would mean "Gates of Death" which points to an inability of the Church of being destroyed either by human powers or demonic. The inability of the Church of being destroyed is tied to the Holy Spirit and the Pope somehow as in the case of a catastrophe having a hierarchical church structure helps in it's survival, which is part of the reason why the Vatican is an independent theocratical country that is legally separate from the laws of Italy, a privilege the national Orthodox churches do not have. When a Pope dies there are still Cardinals/Patriarchs from all over the world with Apostolic power that have the potential to become Popes. Though while there's no Pope, nobody has the authority to canonize a Saint or formally promulgate new faith and moral doctrine. Since the Holy Spirit does not contradict itself, there can only be a single Christian institution in the world that is protected, as all others would have to be in disagreement at least in an essential matter of their doctrine of faith and morals binding to the faithful, since the Lord places higher priority to these than ritual rubrics or general disciplinary or organizational matters (As in the case of Catholic Religious Orders and rites).

[@simonslater9024]

Francis is Peter. Francis is also Jorge. What’s happening in the holy Catholic Church has been foretold by Our Lady down the Catholic Christian centuries. We must pray do penance day the holy Rosary for his holiness. Francis is under dreadful satanic attack. You hear if only Francis would resign-my answer it would make no difference. Jesus and Mary are in 100% control even though most of the time it doesn’t seem as though they are! Praise Jesus and Mary always!!! The holy Catholic Church has to follow her master to Calvary!

[@tesschavit3009]

God bless you guys

[@ChrisVillaroman]

Pope🙏🙏

[@tonywallens217]

Might want to include "Feat. Joe Heschmeyer" in the title

[@jamesflynn4741]

The conclusion of the discussion: there is only 1 Church that has always said Christ founded a Church to teach His Truth without error. all protestants believe Christ’s church can teach lies (at least for 1500 years until the protestant ‘reformation’)

[@HeavnzMiHome]

Great talk. 👍👍👍👍👍

[@dwirestukanti7394]

You have to read a lot of france history to know how bed our church..

[@OrthoLou]

So what if evidence comes out that a canonized Saint actually did something horrific when they were alive..?

[@KeithNester]

I’m pretty sure we’re all done horrific things. The Apostle Paul was a persecutor of the Church. I think I know what you mean, but canonized saints are never said to have been sinless.

[@OrthoLou]

@@KeithNester okay, I'll be more specific then... JP2 is canonized (many would say that the church jumped the gun too quickly in doing this). So what if rock solid evidence were to come out that he covered up clerical abuse? WHILE he was the Pope, that is (Paul committed his atrocities before his conversion).

[@KeithNester]

@@OrthoLou that is a very good question indeed.

[@shlamallama6433]

Would like but it's at 266...

[@calebbrown3352]

I’m pretty sure that William Lane Craig believes Christ has one will, not two as the church teaches. He does not believe Christ has only one nature.

[@lilwaynesworld0]

He apparently doesn’t even need ecumenical councils this was figured out 1500 years ago

[@masterchief8179]

William Lane Craig is an emblematic case of scholar that is specifically a defender of the heresy of Monothelitism. He has even written against Dyothelitism (the official Catholic position proclaimed in the 6th Ecumenical Council) scholarly. Besides, if you just Google it and search enough, you can find academical articles in philosophy of religion in which he defends or he is said to defend this teaching (monothelitism).

[@brendamacqueen2106]

Mind blowing. 🙏

[@lilwaynesworld0]

We all agree a constitution needs a interpreter Aka Supreme Court does not the Bible needs an interpreter when there is a question. A paraphrase of Cardinal Gibbons

[@PInk77W1]

The Roman Catholic Church The Church is one The Church is holy The Church is apostolic The Church is dynastic The Church is Hierarchical The Church is messy The Church is Mystery The Church is teacher The Church is Mother The Church is universal The Church is sacramental The Church is authoritative The Church is visible The Church is unchangeable The Church is missionary The Church is the Kingdom of God The Church is TRUTH The Church is the bride of Christ The Church is the mystical body of Christ The Church is in the world not of the world

[@jafethsalas6561]

..cause Peter was a fool😅

[@TheLcherrera]

We need a Pope that is true to the Catholic religion not this Pope Francis