Why You Can't Punch Hard Despite Being Strong | Ask B4

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B4 FleX

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@chrismathews7707
@chrismathews7707 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the response,I realized I do not train rotational power very much and neglect legs,im going to add a lot more core and leg training to my routine.
@umbrellastation25
@umbrellastation25 Ай бұрын
Most of your punching power comes from your legs dude. The upper body mostly serves to transfer the energy. Remember you're pushing off and rotating from the ground to generate power using mainly your glutes. It's much more akin to say, sprinting, than it is to a push up.
@chrismathews7707
@chrismathews7707 Ай бұрын
@@umbrellastation25 what kind of leg workouts should I do
@umbrellastation25
@umbrellastation25 Ай бұрын
@@chrismathews7707 ditch isolation - focus on funcional movements, plyometrics and building stabilization. Things like squats, lunges, box jumps, snatches and cleans (try to implement one armed ones too as this will make your body stronger in the oblique plane). I'd say you could probably watch any sport specific workout that focuses on power (american football, for example) and try to imitate it. The main takeaway is doing compound movements that either teaches your body to be stable or that simulate movements that you do in real life.
@kakashi1.
@kakashi1. Ай бұрын
@@umbrellastation25real 1 ok .
@Beautiful_Sound_1995
@Beautiful_Sound_1995 Ай бұрын
My punches are very powerful though despite my legs being weak pencils.
@DevilsAdvocate619
@DevilsAdvocate619 2 ай бұрын
To improve your punching power, you must improve your timing & accuracy. You can be as strong as you want to be, but it means nothing if you're not in position.
@DaroZuo
@DaroZuo Ай бұрын
To improve punching power you must work on punching power
@patootie3529
@patootie3529 Ай бұрын
no, that means you are improving your timing and accuracy. to improve your punching power, you must improve your punching power...
@fadfsdfasfsa
@fadfsdfasfsa Ай бұрын
Haha, timing and accuracy, what about technique? Strength means nothing in boxing if you don't have technique and speed and a complete skill set that takes years and years of training and also talent, few boxers reach that level. Look what means perfect technique and speed, not to mention that Roy is 53 years old here, imagine what he was able to do in 20s, this is wild kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3Wpp6xuaqdln9E
@eclisis5080
@eclisis5080 Ай бұрын
@@patootie3529 time and accuracy does improve your punching power, KOs come from hitting the vital areas of the body when they become open, not from how hard you threw the punch, throwing punches hard, you will probably just end up hurting yourself, breaking your hand, or tearing your rotary cuff especially if you miss
@Thomas-pz9qn
@Thomas-pz9qn Ай бұрын
​@eclisis5080 it doesn't improve power just punching efficiency
@beurreamoustache3333
@beurreamoustache3333 2 ай бұрын
Cuz you've never trained for it. That's it. You can have strong legs but you never expect to be a pro runner or jumper, same deal here.
@barefooted001
@barefooted001 2 ай бұрын
Legit.
@AlexandrawOfficial_Lexi
@AlexandrawOfficial_Lexi Ай бұрын
no
@Johnny.Natural
@Johnny.Natural Ай бұрын
Strengths and explosives are different, I do both basketball and bodybuilding and trust me I'm much slower and less explosive after starting bodybuilding, I wouldn't even say I'm stronger as speed and momentum actually gave me more strength, but I'm definitely more sturdy, people tend to get hurt if I clip them
@thepeacekeeper1566
@thepeacekeeper1566 Ай бұрын
@Johnny.Natural funny because I had a different experience where I grew up nearly underweight, but was decently active. My speed and stuff were all average. Once I bulked up 20 lbs or so I was much healthier and I had just gained the muscle needed to be faster because my legs were toothpicks before. And one day I raced a couple friends who used to be faster than me and I beat both. But I guess in your case you were your fastest before and adding on mass didn’t improve that.
@Johnny.Natural
@Johnny.Natural Ай бұрын
@@thepeacekeeper1566 right, I was at my athletic peak when I transitioned to BB
@thegoat6116
@thegoat6116 2 ай бұрын
logan paul is the perfect example of "strong but no power"😂
@rudyleon7321
@rudyleon7321 Ай бұрын
no technique
@TacTicMint
@TacTicMint Ай бұрын
No snap. He pushes his punches out.
@thegoat6116
@thegoat6116 Ай бұрын
@@TacTicMint exactly
@Biserbalkanski
@Biserbalkanski Ай бұрын
​@@TacTicMintyup.
@TheMendo123
@TheMendo123 Ай бұрын
I mean he punches pretty hard considering his experience level
@_.thealtbutton._3483
@_.thealtbutton._3483 2 ай бұрын
Finally someone mentioned rocky marciano. He's criminally underrated
@Liqo315
@Liqo315 2 ай бұрын
Definitely underrated
@Mrdoitall3344
@Mrdoitall3344 2 ай бұрын
Nah i don’t think so , he’s one of the greats all the greats talk abt him how’s he underrated? He’s even in the game fight night
@staticshockboxing
@staticshockboxing 2 ай бұрын
only in casual circles
@wanderingperson9357
@wanderingperson9357 2 ай бұрын
​@@staticshockboxing im a casual and even i know him
@MrX-wd8cm
@MrX-wd8cm 2 ай бұрын
agreed. rocky was under 6 foot but he punched like a monster
@BrinkOf50
@BrinkOf50 Ай бұрын
I've taught martial arts for 30 years. You can help them improve little but at the end of the day, you can't teach speed and power. However you can teach technique which is probably the most important when it comes to training. Let's get real. Most people that train will rarely get into a real fight. Hence, practice correct technique whether you are learning to punch or kick.
@alexraymond-en4dd
@alexraymond-en4dd Ай бұрын
Of course you can train power and speed. It's part of strength and conditioning.
@Robzi_1000
@Robzi_1000 Ай бұрын
I’m a 135 pounder had a very average power punch even tho I was super fast, the past years I trained strength and got really strong, then these past months I have been focused on plyometrics and explosivity and now i can confirm this shit can be drastically improved. I have a extremely hard punch now.
@Biserbalkanski
@Biserbalkanski Ай бұрын
I don't box but good for you 😊I'm a little bigger ...155 pounds.
@IHazReach69
@IHazReach69 Ай бұрын
I’m 260 little guy
@boxlad7583
@boxlad7583 Ай бұрын
@@IHazReach69unless you're 6'5 you're overweight
@kI-cq5xq
@kI-cq5xq Ай бұрын
@@IHazReach69that’s cute I’m 320 all muscle no fat
@IHazReach69
@IHazReach69 Ай бұрын
@@kI-cq5xqthat’s cute I’m 400lbs all muscle
@anul6801
@anul6801 Ай бұрын
Wrist strength!!! People who works with heavy tools for a long time always has natural punching power without technique.
@RealGigaMind
@RealGigaMind Ай бұрын
Pushing strength vs Explosive strength.
@lolpeakaboo
@lolpeakaboo Ай бұрын
No pushing and pulling are polar opposites and not a strength in general. It is actually labeled as ABSOLUTE strength compared to explosive power generated by high twitch muscle fibers vs absolute power carried in slow twitch muscle fibers.
@patootie3529
@patootie3529 Ай бұрын
@@lolpeakaboo absolute power is also carried in fast twitch fibers, just that they're working so hard that they have no choice but to do the movement slowly. your body will use zero slow twitch fiber muscle types doing max effort lifts in squat, bench, or deadlift. they will use it when its a very extended period of exercise like jogging or marathons
@lolpeakaboo
@lolpeakaboo Ай бұрын
@@patootie3529 bro we are literally saying the exact same thing
@JustChill-zd4ib
@JustChill-zd4ib Ай бұрын
No idea what you guys saying but sounds cool
@tristantristan8432
@tristantristan8432 Ай бұрын
I have mostly weightlifted in my life but I did some small amount of Boxing early on. The part you need to realize to increase punching power is to think of your upper body more like a somewhat loose extension which is connected to your torso and legs. Once you get this down you will start to get your whole body behind those punches and the rotational power which B4 FleX is talking about and you will see your punching power escalate dramatically, and you will start to learn which parts of your upper body to hold tight and which to focus more on mobility and fluidity. When you get to this point you are going to have to pay closer attention to your wrists and in particular to your hands because when you start getting your body behind your punches it becomes increasingly easy to break your hands. Weightlifting can be a great source of generating strength and power, the drawback is when you weightlift you learn to brace yourself and hold your entire body tight throughout the entire movement whereas if you want to develop maximum punching power you need to learn which parts of your body to brace and hold tight and which to let be loose and supple. All this being said, boxing is not really a sport which I condone. I stopped it because I realized very early on as a heavyweight the implications of what could happen if I took it up as a profession and what too many blows to the head could possibly do to my mind in my later years in life and it wasn't a risk I was willing to take. Best of luck.
@UltimateN.
@UltimateN. 2 ай бұрын
The thumbnail of Logan had me dead😂 always throwing his punchings from his hips lol
@NeoCortex963
@NeoCortex963 2 ай бұрын
That's what you're supposed to do. Punch from the hips, obliques, and legs.
@MarDoesBoxing
@MarDoesBoxing Ай бұрын
not even hips he straight up arm punches
@Mr.Kabukicho
@Mr.Kabukicho Ай бұрын
​@@NeoCortex963 that's what you're supposed to do if you want to get knocked out 😂
@kurtwynn1090
@kurtwynn1090 Ай бұрын
What does that even supposed to mean? That's exactly how you should punch.
@NeoCortex963
@NeoCortex963 Ай бұрын
@@Mr.Kabukicho This is how the pro boxers from back the day punched. Guys like Roberto Duran, Marvin Hagler, and Thomas Hearns all punched from the hips. Roberto Duran literally begs coaches not to teach boxers to pivot when punching, and instead from the hips. When you pivot while punching you get way less power. If you get knocked out punching from your hips, it's probably more likely because you have bad defense.
@Strangingness
@Strangingness 2 ай бұрын
In every sport the power comes from the legs, an then core then upper body. But with punching in particular, the shoulders and upper back are way more important than the chest and tricep/bicep muscles in My opinion although You need power everywhere It's important to have conditioned shoulders that have a good range of motion/flexibility and a strong upper back, just My experience/opinion.
@iory901
@iory901 Ай бұрын
bicep muscles are so useful for american hook wht r u on
@Jackmonkey66666hghinnv
@Jackmonkey66666hghinnv Ай бұрын
Yeah honestly for me the biggest improvement and when I really started cracking the bag was when I got my shoulder snap crispy, genuinely was shocked by how much of a difference that alone makes in punching power and honestly everything else after that came so much easier too shoulders are so crucial for punching they don’t get enough credit imo.
@user-hz4rh7py9k
@user-hz4rh7py9k Ай бұрын
@@iory901no it’s not. U have no idea what ur talking abt
@iory901
@iory901 Ай бұрын
@@user-hz4rh7py9k lmao hahaha no it is go actually reasearch the bicep muscle is activated while using the american hook and uppercut
@carterbrown6774
@carterbrown6774 2 ай бұрын
I’m gone say this,weight lifters have a ton of power, but no knock out power. It’s a difference. Their punches hurt, but they don’t always produce finishing power. It’s a cumulative effect. Also, weight lifters are use to being in a fixed position to show off their strength. A true fighters learns to use his power in angles and needs way more components to be a complete fighter. Lastly, power can’t be trained, it’s just natural.
@jumbothompson
@jumbothompson Ай бұрын
I might not be wording this right but boxers like a lot of other athletes are more elastic. You have to use power yet be loose at the same time. I used to play tennis. And if you just put pure strength into a serve or shot it's not going to travel all that fast. You have to have a snap/elasticity at the same time. You gotta work in between both these ranges.
@carterbrown6774
@carterbrown6774 Ай бұрын
@@jumbothompson I hear all that, but we all have power. You have to remember you using gloves. Also, you can put more range of motion into a serve. If all fighters could cock all the first at back on a swing, it be tons of finishing. However, as you said, you have to work your power in angles. Shorten your range of motion and be precise.
@lolpeakaboo
@lolpeakaboo Ай бұрын
that is false, all high twitch muscle fibers can be strengthened therefor explosive output will go up
@carterbrown6774
@carterbrown6774 Ай бұрын
@@lolpeakaboo what was false?
@patootie3529
@patootie3529 Ай бұрын
@@carterbrown6774 i believe he meant that what was false was that weightlifters have a ton of power but no knockout power. and technically you're both right. it's false in the way that they don't have knockout power because if they are explosive and powerful then they logically have knockout power. however you're right in the way that they just don't know how to do it properly, so they don't. but if you teach a weightlifter or powerlifter how to punch properly, be fluid, fast, and powerful in all punches in different angles, he would undoubtedly have knockout power
@michaeldietz2648
@michaeldietz2648 Ай бұрын
I agree with everything you said. The most important thing is that you train properly and learn from somebody that knows what they’re doing. also doesn’t matter the style for example, when I trained in TKD, my punch was just as strong as when I trained in boxing, it’s too completely different ways of generating power. Just do it very slow until you get down the form correctly and then you’ll build speed. The right or left cross in boxing is one of the strongest because you start to generate the power in your foot and move it up your body, it takes time to get really good at.
@Theoriginalace-cy4dr
@Theoriginalace-cy4dr Ай бұрын
I think that muscles, punching speed, knuckle density, and technique are all the things that make your punch 🥊 stronger
@mahdhithariq
@mahdhithariq 2 ай бұрын
Wussup my nigga flex ❤, thanks fo being consistent for a while now keep it up brother
@Skq-p8p
@Skq-p8p Ай бұрын
Just picturing some white kid typing this lmfao
@RadiantShadow13
@RadiantShadow13 2 ай бұрын
Love That consistency
@alzheimerjoebiden4266
@alzheimerjoebiden4266 Ай бұрын
He is partially right. The effect of a punch depends on momentum = mass times velocity squared. So velocity is the more important factor.
@aguy481
@aguy481 Ай бұрын
Acceleration, not velocity. You may have a fast velocity at the start and slow velocity at the end or reversed, and that will weaken your punch.
@Dolphlemaquereau
@Dolphlemaquereau Ай бұрын
Punching power comes from tendon strength
@patootie3529
@patootie3529 Ай бұрын
have legit never heard this before. its your muscles putting the force, not your tendons. your tendons can be bulletproofed but it has not fast twitch fibers. it doesn't know how to be faster, more powerful, just stronger. that's the job of the muscles. TAKING the impact and also transferring the force is the job of the tendons and joints
@divad7137
@divad7137 2 ай бұрын
I mean for power it's pretty obvious that you need both to use your entire body to perform the movement and rotation, besides just the arms, and that is the first. It also depends on your weight, height, technique of the punch, and yeah strenght training can help. But you also need to be fast, since power is force times acceleration, and if you are fast, that creates momentum which makes the punch more powerful, or other stuff like twisting more with you punches or going through the target more, or longer punches. Also some people are just heavy handed, and despite looking slow they are strong and their punches are heavy asf that they put people to sleep, like George Foreman or Alex Pereira. Other people are just long so they naturally get more lenght in their shots, and they go through more. Also at the end of the day you might not even need lots of power to put someone to sleep if you time your shot right and are very precise so that you land clean. Also the momentum of the punch, like if someone moves into your shot while you move into them, it's just gonna put them to sleep most likely. It's trully amazing how many ways you can approach a simple thing like this one.
@Jackmonkey66666hghinnv
@Jackmonkey66666hghinnv Ай бұрын
Agreed bro, one power punchers approach can be worlds apart from the next power puncher and both can be spot on ways of hitting like a truck. There really is no real one strict and only approach to mastering a hard punch, there are some general rules of thumb obviously but the little nuisances and things in between can vary greatly and each can be the catalyst for any specific person/preference.
@adelchad
@adelchad 2 ай бұрын
I'm glad you still active and posting videos, keep on going dawg 🙌🏻
@ArticulateBandit21st
@ArticulateBandit21st 2 ай бұрын
Consistent upload streak love to see it B4 👏🏾✅️
@needformead2947
@needformead2947 Ай бұрын
Really like your attitude, no ego involved
@vutran3758
@vutran3758 Ай бұрын
I’m on the side of it’s 90% genetics and 10% training. Bone structure and muscle insertions are genetic. Proportion of type 1 and 2 muscle fibers are also genetic. Training, ideally from young age to affect the development of the physical characteristics mentioned earlier. People who never played sports end up being really clumsy and awkward adults due to lack of proprioception development. Can you develop what you currently have? Yes you can make improvement. Can you be great at it? It might be too late.
@Erastoneus45
@Erastoneus45 Ай бұрын
Can tell me more less how my genetics works more or less?
@vutran3758
@vutran3758 Ай бұрын
@@Erastoneus45 there’s genetic testing that you can do to measure athletic potential, but they are ridiculously expensive. A good predictor is if one or both of your parents were athlete, then you probably have the genetics.
@kanedgy4562
@kanedgy4562 Ай бұрын
It’s more like 20% genetics and 80% when you punch you should feel the heaviness of your arm then propel it over,reason why I say it’s 20% genetics because being taller could help because your whole physique is naturally more stronger which results in more weight.
@vutran3758
@vutran3758 Ай бұрын
@@kanedgy4562 that’s not accurate, the arm is relaxed on a punch like a whip. Punching is not an arm exercise, it’s a core and hip movement primarily. If you look at other sports that involve throwing the arm across the axis of rotation like baseball or tennis. The primary movers are the hips and core, the arm stays relaxed. Longer levers make a for better rotation, hence taller athletes have greater advantage in power generation. Height is 90% genetics according to scientists in GWAS studies
@kanedgy4562
@kanedgy4562 Ай бұрын
@@vutran3758 search up mikhail ryabko
@Channel99899
@Channel99899 Ай бұрын
Something you didn't mention specifically. Is the Kinetic Chain. You can have little muscle mass, but when you know how to connect each muscle with each movement and with the technique, you can have a very small guy that can throw quite devastating punches.
@Misleadphilosopher
@Misleadphilosopher 27 күн бұрын
It’s also a mental thing, Tyson visualize punch holes through people
@Whatupplaya
@Whatupplaya Ай бұрын
I think when it comes to power the starting strength take makes the most sense. They say some ppl are just more neuromuscularly efficient and can use more of their max strength in a blink of an eye. Whereas other ppl just cant turn on enough motor units quick enough to produce the same amount of power assuming everything else is equal.
@majorphenom1
@majorphenom1 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing 🙏🏿 Technique is crucial ✅ Practice ✅
@DaDominicanDawg
@DaDominicanDawg 2 ай бұрын
Well it's actually kinda interesting once you study it, the technique, timing, and one of the things no one thinks about "placement" has a lot to do with it, the best ko artists had great placement with their shots and timed it perfectly, now as far as the dif types of punchers, the fast twitch fibers seem to lead it, guys like Tank, Tyson, Tua, Morrison, McClellan, Benn, certainly heavy hands but its the velocity+ power combination (explosiveness) that gives them that power and then how accurate they are with their shots triples the power making them seem even more powerful, and when you look at their training it's no surprise, lotta folks wanna hit hard but dont train for it, they dont train like athletes, they dont put emphasis on fast twitch recruitment and training their body to combine as a whole when they punch, thats the power, doesnt take much to ko somebody if you have great timing placement and technique behind a punch, also speed is a factor, but while technique is learned, i do believe it has partially some genetic to it, not everyone is able to develop it the same way and not everyone can get as much torque when they turn their hips or snap their shoulders because of bone structure and body leverage, thats why guys like Tommy Hearns, Julian Jackson, George Foreman will sometimes throw a shot and it could be short and sleep somebody, always said power at a lighter weight is like speed at heavyweight, very dangerous combination
@BigV24
@BigV24 Ай бұрын
Bro mentioned Tua, he knows ball
@DaDominicanDawg
@DaDominicanDawg Ай бұрын
@@BigV24 😭 David Tua not the 🏈 player but yes
@BigV24
@BigV24 Ай бұрын
@@DaDominicanDawg I know you're talking about David Tua, knowing ball just means you're knowledgeable. I'm a big boxing fan and he hardly gets mentioned with the other heavy hitters so I was glad you showed him some love.
@DaDominicanDawg
@DaDominicanDawg Ай бұрын
@@BigV24 are you a uso 😲, cuz i love me some islanders(pause) i love that culture, they built different, Mark Hunt, David Tua, Tai Tuivasa, Jimmy Thunder, Tyson Pedro, The Tafa brothers, they are all so powerful and have granite chins, man Tuas a throwback, i love his style he was like a frazier/tyson/marciano mix, one of the greatest left hooks of all time, great uppercut specifically the left and his body shots could break bull horns, he kod someone with just a jab, they dont make em like that anymore, i often model my style similar to his. Real OGs know bout Tua 🤜🏽 🤛🏽
@BigV24
@BigV24 Ай бұрын
@@DaDominicanDawg yeah I am lol. Appreciate the love you have for the island fighters.
@HiyayaHo
@HiyayaHo Ай бұрын
Genetic is key for elite punchier or boxer
@Wal-xq8bc
@Wal-xq8bc 28 күн бұрын
Rotator cuffs. Wanna hit ball longer in golf? Train rotator cuff Wanna throw baseball faster? Train rotator cuff Wanna throw football down long Train rotator cuff. It’s where all the explosive power comes from. That and your hips/lower body. Golf/boxing/baseball and quarterbacks all have something in common. A stance where power is transferred from stance through hips, through shoulders and finally through the hands.
@snowbunnybreeder
@snowbunnybreeder 13 күн бұрын
Are you stupid
@kiddynamite1620
@kiddynamite1620 2 ай бұрын
Thx for this type of content
@elmochomo8218
@elmochomo8218 Ай бұрын
Sometimes power is a God given gift
@mIrOkAKkO
@mIrOkAKkO 2 ай бұрын
HELL YEAH BIG BRO THE VIDEOS ARE BACK KEEP IT *UP*
@muayboran6111
@muayboran6111 Ай бұрын
Lack in speed/acceleration. It's simple physics
@idealsAREisomorphic
@idealsAREisomorphic 27 күн бұрын
Punching power comes from legs and torque, that’s the engine. Arms are just there to transfer the momentum, upper body muscles work not to generate force, but to eliminate amortization.
@yeh2319
@yeh2319 Ай бұрын
Because you body is more complex than only being about muscles.
@antoinemantoux6049
@antoinemantoux6049 Ай бұрын
Extend your arms more when punching, it gives you more range and allows you to relax more so more power
@generalwadehampton.2578
@generalwadehampton.2578 Ай бұрын
Power doesn't matter just get crazy snap in your punches so you cut. Cuts will stop the fight too.
@patootie3529
@patootie3529 Ай бұрын
"power doesn't matter" said no one ever
@MicahNstuff
@MicahNstuff Ай бұрын
@@patootie3529Floyd
@whitejodeci8926
@whitejodeci8926 Ай бұрын
Power comes from the legs, I was punching substantially harder when I focused on my legs, especially the calfs
@user-gr1io9is3v
@user-gr1io9is3v Ай бұрын
I don't bench press a lot like 80kg max (I don't really train for it) but I hit more than 900 at punching machines (body weight of 65kg) so it works the other way around as well, it's about what you train and I train body mechanics and timing more than power lifting and I found it gives me stronger, faster and more precise punches.
@aguy481
@aguy481 Ай бұрын
Punching machines are for speed and never much power.
@mqproductions
@mqproductions Ай бұрын
I always looked at punching power as somewhat of a skill. You need strength to punch hard, yes, but technique means alot.
@lloydwright3661
@lloydwright3661 Ай бұрын
The big squat not equating to a high jump is a really good analogy
@Anon1gh3
@Anon1gh3 Ай бұрын
The more rotations you incorporate into your punches, from your ankle, to your hip, to your wrist, the more power you will generate.
@johncarroll772
@johncarroll772 Ай бұрын
Beterbiev is freakishly strong for his size, has knocked out all his opponents
@RealGigaMind
@RealGigaMind Ай бұрын
Punching requires sudden increase in speed aka the acceleration. Lifting requires constant speed.
@patootie3529
@patootie3529 Ай бұрын
yes but the way you lift is important for the body to adapt to a specific stimulus. otherwise all bodybuilders and powerlifters would be the same strength and size with this logic... weightlifters are the most explosive and powerful (ironically not powerlifters and the name of the sports should've swapped) since their clean and jerk/snatch movements completely rely on pure power and the strength to pull it off, while powerlifters just do max effort lifts. both use fast twitch fibers and both end up becoming more explosive than just a normal bodybuilder who trains entirely for hypertrophy and no fast twitch or CNS development, but a weightlifter will still be more POWERFUL than a powerlifter while a powerlifter may be more stronger in absolute strength and thus the weightlifter would have more punch power, speed, and KO power
@ayw5118
@ayw5118 Ай бұрын
because strength is different from power. Strength is the force your muscle can generate, and power is the maximal force your muscle generate in the shortest time. Two are related but also different concepts.
@jxrin3
@jxrin3 Ай бұрын
As I understand it, and this may get a bit sciencey, punching FORCE is dictated by the POWER your body can generate. Force depends on two factors: The ACCELERATION of your fist (NOT the SPEED of your fist, explained later) and the MASS of your fist/arm/body, essentially all body parts involved in the punch. MASS: This is the easier improvement of the two factors, you can increase the FORCE of your punch by increasing the amount of MASS your fist/arm/body has, this is why heavyweights hit "harder," because the additional mass factors in to the f=ma equation. I say it is easier but it's not recommended because this means either gaining muscle or fat to acquire mass, which may hinder your boxing in other ways if said mass results in weight gain that is unnatural to your unique body type & genetics such as unnecessary antagonist musculature interfering with the protagonist muscle groups involved in throwing an explosive punch, or the extra weight making it harder to maintain your stamina. ACCELERATION: This factor is more nuanced, prepare for a long paragraph. The speed at which your fist is travelling is important, but not as important as how quickly the fist gets to that speed. Let me explain: The SPEED at which the fist increases it's SPEED is it's ACCELERATION. The more you can accelerate your fist, the more force your punch will have. You can increase ACCELERATION by training the POWER of your arms, and power is the maximum amount of energy you can generate in the shortest amount of time. This is what being "explosive" means. Explosive training isn't jumping on/off a box and calling it explosive because you're jumping. Or not hitting the heavybag like you want to murder it and instead like you're giving it a back massage. You have to REALLY FORCE yourself to move with the GREATEST amount of energy in the SHORTEST amount of time if you want to INCREASE your POWER, thus increasing your ACCELERATION. Otherwise you just build useless "bodybuilder" muscle which isn't optimised for boxing. Like those palookas that go to "train" on the heavybag with 16ouncers but when they hit the bag they don't force themselves to hit with POWER. Which means they continually train in sub-optimal stress conditions. They essentially are training to become worse. Not all training is inherently good, sometimes, well meaning they may be, they are training to perform WORSE without realising it; this is also why you don't train to shadowbox with 15kg dumbbells because yes, heavy weight move fast but you're just training yourself to punch slow at that point. There is also technique. Proper technique allows for uninhibited generation of force with the greatest efficiency, but this is a given hence why the brief mention as opposed to most of the content of this paragraph being focused on acceleration. Sidenote, for simplicity's sake and ease of understanding I say speed when really I should be saying velocity, for those of you nit-pickers who are detail-inclined. I am not an expert of science or boxing, I'm just an aspiring amateur boxer; a mere scholar of the science of boxing for a few years who fell in love with the sport, so correct me on any errors, I don't get offended.
@hotsingleplaguedoctorinarea
@hotsingleplaguedoctorinarea Ай бұрын
Punching power is about explosiveness, proper kinetic sequencing, relaxation, and structural integrity on impact. People who lift aren't building themselves up for striking. They generally do so without explosiveness, are extremely tight and only do so in the vertical plane. They think that power punching is about tightening up and "lifting" the punch like they do with weights instead of relaxing and fluidly snapping their fist through their target and tightening it near impact (allowing the speed from relaxation to translate into a structured impact backed by the mass of your body, weak wrists will lose you a lot of power). They also don't have the mind-muscle connection on how and when to fluidly sequence their muscles in a punch, which is the real meat behind punching technique and something that comes with hours and hours of intentional explosive shadow boxing. Then there's the technical aspect of poor stance, leading to power balance, leading to poor weight transfer for power among other things. In other words: shadowbox and punch a lot, focus on stance and technique (especially as a newbie) every step of the way, try to feel how your muscles are getting sequenced in the punch (you wanna slightly lift and pivot the rear foot and maintain some weight on the ball of the foot - not the toes - with the hips and shoulders rotation being simultaneous while snapping the fist from the buildup almost a split second into the rotation, and still maintaining some weight on the ball of the rear foot). Strength and conditioning is supplementary - not a replacement - and should be centered around plyo and explosive exercises like sprints, not generic gym lifting.
@Erastoneus45
@Erastoneus45 Ай бұрын
How would you build power on striking? I am total newbie on it since I never participated any martial sports. I was more of strength or sprinting and some endurance running like running or cycling. I also measure 5'"10 and half. I am puerto rican with 66.2% of southern European, 16.6% West African, 14.4% Indigenous Taino and 1.2% Northern African. I am giving these infos so you can give me insights and views how to train myself for it. My body is also bit of endomorphic and mesomorphic. Not sure about I would be better for striking or grapling. Kudos from Puerto Rico.
@hotsingleplaguedoctorinarea
@hotsingleplaguedoctorinarea Ай бұрын
@@Erastoneus45 strengthen your core and your legs explosively. Do every exercise targeting them with the intent of power like powerlifters do, not just moving them like everybody else, and lower your weights so you can push out higher reps per exercise. Do a lot of sprinying and plyo exercises. Most importantly, shadowbox and punch the bag with intent and proper technique, don't mope around taking rounds off out of lazyness like most people do at the gym. If you're training technique, slow it down and watch yourself at the mirror. If you're training power, punch with maximum power and intent for a KO without being emotional about it. But no half assed flow drills.
@destruction1928
@destruction1928 Ай бұрын
KE=0.5 x m x V^2, where KE is Kinetict energy, m equals mass, and v^2 equals velocity squared, if you do the math by doubling the mass halfing the speed, later you do the opposite, you will reach the conclusion speed will always generate more KE than mass.
@AchuttanHoney
@AchuttanHoney 2 ай бұрын
Bro also can you make a vid on how to start boxing training at home?
@patootie3529
@patootie3529 Ай бұрын
watch youtube tutorials and start. you dont need a video on how to start bro
@brandona6862
@brandona6862 2 ай бұрын
I did not know power and strength are different is that why boxers beat up bodybuilders.
@bilbo_gamez6195
@bilbo_gamez6195 Ай бұрын
Yep. Also look at people like Pacquio. Small upper body but had legs n calves like a horse which is where most of his power came from. Its a very different kind of muscle development creating punching power.
@Jackmonkey66666hghinnv
@Jackmonkey66666hghinnv Ай бұрын
Body builders stand still and lift weights up and down, boxers train to use they’re body from head to toe as a fluid weapon capable of bringing hell to there opponent while also defending themselves from said opponent simultaneously.
@jg3000
@jg3000 Ай бұрын
A lot of times it's just technique.
@LevarWilliams-j5x
@LevarWilliams-j5x 26 күн бұрын
You gotta punch hard to be able to punch harder get used to putting your whole body behind your punches rotate and follow through with your punches it's all on your practice even when you shadow box punch hard to create muscle memory
@risto3425
@risto3425 Ай бұрын
It's all physics. How much of your bodyweight can you put behind the punch, how fast and how rigid the arm is at joints (wrist, elbow, shoulder). Guys don't factor in the rigidity of the arm often. You see guys punching fast and turning their bodies into the punches well but still featherfisted. Why? Arm rigidity.
@JoePolkII
@JoePolkII Ай бұрын
The man in the video doesn't know what he is doing at all! The snap of the punch is what knocks you out!
@00fordxlt
@00fordxlt 29 күн бұрын
It's all about being fluid
@IvanIvanov-bl7bi
@IvanIvanov-bl7bi 2 ай бұрын
Looking good man ,keep it up !
@hermeticinstrumentalist6804
@hermeticinstrumentalist6804 Ай бұрын
Awesome advice. Thank you. I want to work on that explosive twitch speed/power now. Technique is also important, sometimes I randomly get sloppy so I know my technique must not be the greatest at the moment. So I shall work on that so I don't bust up my wrist when hitting the bag. Hitting it hard does feel cool though, but, it's better to not break my wrist, lol. Cheers!
@gabrielbench1867
@gabrielbench1867 Ай бұрын
Explosive pushups shadowboxing with dumbbells will increase power but you still have to have the right technique so it translates
@taylorg2787
@taylorg2787 Ай бұрын
I got the tip for straight punches to flick your shoulders; it helps me create more of that towel-snap feeling in my straight punches. Obviously, feet, hips, and core play a massive role.
@jackf2501
@jackf2501 Ай бұрын
Great informative video bro. Subscribed.
@amac7834
@amac7834 Ай бұрын
Anyone can improve their punch power through practice and techniques. Although there are some people that have heavy hands. If you watch boxing you’ll see.
@andrewclack4881
@andrewclack4881 Ай бұрын
always combine bag work/shadow boxing with footwork. watch mike tyson for example. sometime he would be almost around the other side of the bag finishing a combo.
@redwarriorXYTYoutube
@redwarriorXYTYoutube Ай бұрын
Thanks your a Real one!
@MutantCyborg001
@MutantCyborg001 Ай бұрын
It's called speed, technique and hardness of your grip, simple as that.
@zacksherman4919
@zacksherman4919 Ай бұрын
Power is not absolute force. Power is how much force you can generate in the quickest amount of time, work/time or velocity x force. A 1RM max bench generates a lot of Force, but is not a quick movement or else it probably isn’t your max. Tips outside of technique would be use medicine balls and resistance bands to work on rotational power.
@JohnAvillaHerpetocultural
@JohnAvillaHerpetocultural Ай бұрын
It’s all about proper body mechanics and mass. You need to learn to put all of your mass into it while staying balanced. I weigh 150 and I can ko big dudes, especially with my left hook. The movement starts at the ground. You need to be able to turn in the knee THEN rotate the hips and THEN whip out that hook fast and fluidly enough that it becomes a single movement to throw a proper left hook (regular stance) for example. A heavier guy SHOULD punch harder than me but most don’t because they never develop the proper mechanics. A 130 lb guy with perfect mechanics will hit at least as hard as a 200+lb guy who doesn’t. If that 200+ pounder learned proper mechanics his name would be Mike Tyson.
@shadicalplayz8932
@shadicalplayz8932 2 ай бұрын
I got some Punching Power And I’ve been experienced of boxing for 1 year, and 1 year in a half. Also, I got 2 skipping ropes
@FREDDAGGS
@FREDDAGGS Ай бұрын
People almost universally get this wrong. Even top trainers. The ability to really hurt someone with a punch might be better than "power". Real bang. That "wtf was that" impact force. It comes from muscle synchronization. The same thing that lets women pick up cars off children. Muscles firing individually are weak, which is what an out of sequence shot is. Every muscle fiber firing in perfect sequence for a purpose is where those killer shots come from. You need a clear head, because talking to yourself will botch the sequence. The other issue is muscle imbalance. To train for it, you hit air. The shadow in the video is not bad. Throw into the air at 100%. Many fighters can't hit air at 100% because they expect the bag, pads or opponent to stop their shot. The muscles to send a punch out are much stronger than those to stop it. Gyms exacerbate this with endless push ups and no counter exercise. In reality, most shots miss. So your power becomes limited to how hard you can hit air. Your brain will limit your shots to your ability to keep your balance and not injure yourself. When you can launch at 100% into air without losing balance, you are half way there. Then you can start drilling that for synchronization. Find a little rythm and hit air like its a heavy bag.
@singh2702
@singh2702 Ай бұрын
Deadlifts , the more you can deadlift the more tension you can build through out the kinetic chain i.e. more potential energy. Then incorporate some power cleans , preferably hang power cleans , then some sprints as well for triple extension. These will increase rate of force development , not push ups or bench press etc , you need the whole kinetic chain to throw a big punch.
@aguy481
@aguy481 Ай бұрын
These worsen your speed and are worse for your punches
@bilbo_gamez6195
@bilbo_gamez6195 Ай бұрын
As that skinny strong guy I can honestly say I got some decent power for my size. Of course a lot of it is body mechanics but I truly believe tendon and ligament strength plays a big part. You hit the nail on the head aswell when you said speed=power. People need to develop their lower body more aswell, you get them calves on point n get that spring in ya step n learn to transfer it from muscle to muscle you are golden. I'd love your critique on my punching power if you find the time my g.
@Jackmonkey66666hghinnv
@Jackmonkey66666hghinnv Ай бұрын
Yeah I always think to naoya or however you spell his actual name in Japanese. Dude is like 135 pounds looks almost a few missed meals away from malnourished but a punch in the head from him would send you to the grave bro, guy also has calves like a grizzly bear on his near stick frame swear.
@bilbo_gamez6195
@bilbo_gamez6195 Ай бұрын
@@Jackmonkey66666hghinnv yh exactly the kinda guy I'm talking about. Pacquio is who I always think of though. Ripped for sure but small upper body with these tree trunk legs n calves
@Jackmonkey66666hghinnv
@Jackmonkey66666hghinnv Ай бұрын
@@bilbo_gamez6195 yeah he was def a beast though I’d be lying if I said I watched him a lot was only a here and there kind of thing when I would watch him since I’m on the taller side myself so generally watch different types of fighters mostly. Naoya and manny though would be more or less the same build though I think by eye test naoya is slightly taller/longer in general but legs sturdier than a big tree lmao, it’s obvious when you watch him fight that’s where the brunt of his power comes from and it allows him to be as quick as a good lightweight with the power you’d think of a heavyweight, would be deadly asf to actually be in a ring with those guys even though they don’t look it if they stood next to the mike Tyson’s of the world.
@bilbo_gamez6195
@bilbo_gamez6195 Ай бұрын
@@Jackmonkey66666hghinnv funny thing is Mike said himself those kind of weight classes are the best fighters in the world. I think it was on the Joe rogan show or something n he was showing em clips of someone (can't remember who it was) and he was genuinely gushing in his cute lil mike tyson way n someone was like "what those little dudes" n mike got kinda miffed n was like "ay these are some bad mf'ers" 🤣
@Theknightman-wg1dz
@Theknightman-wg1dz Ай бұрын
I’m like the opposite. I lift less than what I should for my weight, but punch way harder than I should
@TacTicMint
@TacTicMint Ай бұрын
205 bench press is about average for a 145lb person who works at it. Bench press is an isolated exercise that doesn't involve turning your hip or rotating your spine. A lot of weightlifting is the same way. If you want to punch hard you have to practice punching. What he said about explosiveness is key too.
@athenictragedy751
@athenictragedy751 Ай бұрын
That's not average
@TacTicMint
@TacTicMint Ай бұрын
@@athenictragedy751 I mean for an average guy working at weightlifting or an high school athlete it's ok. It's not above average. What would you say is average?
@athenictragedy751
@athenictragedy751 Ай бұрын
@@TacTicMint That is way above average for a 140 pound teenager.
@TacTicMint
@TacTicMint Ай бұрын
@@athenictragedy751 17-19 year old teenager I think it's doable for anyone with a steady routine. Maybe someone extra tall or obese might have a problem. I'm thinking of when I was younger and the obesity wasn't out of control. What is average then? Body weight is decent at around 14-15 years old.
@eclisis5080
@eclisis5080 Ай бұрын
You don't need power to knock somebody out, especially bare knuckle
@aguy481
@aguy481 Ай бұрын
You do unless you're fighting someone with no neck
@minionknight4828
@minionknight4828 2 ай бұрын
Bro i suggest looking into weight transfers on punches (look up fouts boxing theory). Basically, to maximize power say on a rear 2, ud shift weight from back foot to front foot and for a good 3 vice versa. Also defiend as bringing head to other side of the line. Made a huge difference for me. Also maintaining high trap posture but loose shoulders/delts helps maintain the kinetic chain. U could study a fighter like ilia topuria, tank, inoue etc and see how they transfer weight on punches.
@martinmarinov505
@martinmarinov505 Ай бұрын
If you already workout and are strong its mostly technique that needs time and practise and second is explosive movements. Most people that havent trained enough combat sports are very tense and cant loosen up. Punch power comes from accelerating the punch not just pushing power. So you need all parts of your body acting like a sling. If you only do shadow boxing its hard to learn its more about timing and movement when you alredy have the skills for proper technique you need a target or sparing partner. Heavy bag is not enough some pads or proper dummy is needed. VR boxing is also nice for shadow boxing its not like real life partner but at least you have a proper target and distance.
@soulmatrixx661
@soulmatrixx661 Ай бұрын
I didn’t watch the video yet, but I think it had to do with mind-body connection.. If you feel fierce your attacks will be fierce, but if you’re just throwing punches then they will lack force and tenacity
@Lektuerekurs
@Lektuerekurs Ай бұрын
I would add even that a powerful fast twitch muscle puncher does not have to have powerful kicks and the other way round, so technique is still a factor. for example in mma look at Edson Barboza, brutally fast kicks but bad stance for punching = arm punches. also "punches" some people have great hooks and others brutal straight punches (me I have really good hook speed and power, an average cross at best and terrible hip flexibility 😂)
@nlmbkeef3199
@nlmbkeef3199 2 ай бұрын
Foot work brings power , foot work
@Abd.Allah_D.Bockler
@Abd.Allah_D.Bockler Ай бұрын
Very good video. 👍🏼👍🏼
@rudyverajr68
@rudyverajr68 Ай бұрын
Push with your legs, and pull with the hand your not throwing.
@PrimordialBeing360
@PrimordialBeing360 Ай бұрын
Punching powers comes from the turn in your hips
@Jackmonkey66666hghinnv
@Jackmonkey66666hghinnv Ай бұрын
Honestly you can get power from virtually any part of your body you just have to use it all correctly and fluently together, if you do that there’s virtually no way you can’t atleast maximise your individual power ceiling when you think about it it’s a lot more simple then we think.
@chanhmilner2670
@chanhmilner2670 Ай бұрын
Single arm landmind press. focus on the speed,technique, rotation, then start adding weight
@awesomeguysuncle
@awesomeguysuncle 2 ай бұрын
What about if you can punch hard but you're not very strong
@Rydiculous
@Rydiculous Ай бұрын
I think bodybuilder/lifter types get used to single joint movements from lifting weights being strong which requires being tight and stiff during said movements so being loose and using body mechanics does not come as naturally for them. If that makes sense.
@shadicalplayz8932
@shadicalplayz8932 2 ай бұрын
And I’ve been training at home for 1 in a half year
@JasonChinAFat
@JasonChinAFat Ай бұрын
Very useful Video🙏
@jg3000
@jg3000 Ай бұрын
Got to do those Jack Dempsey exercises.
@jaybee2402
@jaybee2402 Ай бұрын
"You're genetic ceiling is your genetic ceiling"...phew. There I was thinking X doesn't equal X.
@aguy481
@aguy481 Ай бұрын
This is what's in the mind of autism.
@diamondpvpplayzz2646
@diamondpvpplayzz2646 2 ай бұрын
Hey man! Love the content had a quick question how are you still maintaining your physique present by using hybrid routine and what was your workout now?
@unwantedpeople368
@unwantedpeople368 Ай бұрын
Well explained.
@lefthookouchmcarm4520
@lefthookouchmcarm4520 Ай бұрын
One word.. maybe two. It could be three. Kinetic chain.
@andresoares1526
@andresoares1526 Ай бұрын
I think another thing can help is fist conditioning, like hitting da bag without gloves or hitting concrete walls, I have been hitted sometimes on sparring and even with 16 oz gloves I tell you I feeled da bones off my partners. Another thing can help is shoulder, bicep, triceps, forem arms isolation work... Off course a punch is a full body movement, but a strong arm can cause knockouts without exposing yourself with excessive rotation.
@Giulio-op7ti
@Giulio-op7ti 2 ай бұрын
thank you for the video! let me ask you: in your opinion how strong is strong enough for boxing/martial arts? what is a reasonable standard in your experience?
@nikakupreishvili7
@nikakupreishvili7 2 ай бұрын
Bro there's this dude goatis who says that working out is bad for you as it causes unnecessary stress and reduces lifespan. What do you think about that?
@rampagesmackssons508
@rampagesmackssons508 2 ай бұрын
What do you think he thinks? Look at B4 flex video content and think if he would agree or not
@nikakupreishvili7
@nikakupreishvili7 2 ай бұрын
@@rampagesmackssons508 yeah but I'd like to hear why exercise is not bad for you.
@mikeesteves8427
@mikeesteves8427 2 ай бұрын
this might apply if you live a very active life to the point that working out would just be overwokring yourself
@Jackmonkey66666hghinnv
@Jackmonkey66666hghinnv Ай бұрын
Dude look into other peoples videos that deep dive that guys personal life, he’s not well mate granted he doesn’t seem unintelligent to a degree but he’s very mentally unwell.
@raulsanchezjr4048
@raulsanchezjr4048 Ай бұрын
Properly punching and using the proper techniques are a must when knowing or learning how to punch and no being muscular or atrong does not make a difference unless you achieve both or all three, strength, flexibilty amd technique! Without them all you wont produce max power in your strikes!
@nickvledder
@nickvledder Ай бұрын
I like the very subtel piano music in the background of the video.
@AchuttanHoney
@AchuttanHoney 2 ай бұрын
And what pushups did you mainly do in your 15 old days?wide or normal?ij which you did 5 sets of 50
@ThatRedRadar
@ThatRedRadar 2 ай бұрын
he did normal
@DayneAW
@DayneAW Ай бұрын
Yes, I can squat 400 lbs, but I can't high jump over 7 feet. Why do high jumpers look anorexic, yet produce so much explosiveness? The mechanics of power and explosiveness, is utilizing the kinetic chain to WHIP an object(fist....elbow...foot...head...knee...etc) into a pin-point target. Just like swinging a bat, in baseball or softball, or throwing a football, creating torque through the most efficient and quick pathway of least resistance, stems from the base of our bodily structure....our lower spine, hips, legs, and feet. Point A is the stance before the punch. Point B is when the object touches it's target. Both points are STABLE and RIGID. Figure out the most efficient and quick way to get from point A to Point B. The path of least resistance.... ...or as Bruce Lee says, "Be Water". Muscles are merely facilitating the movement. Tension within ligaments and tendons, are what is going to produce explosiveness. But with punches, the joints tend to need to be aligned, given a rigid pathway for the forces to distribute through the bones, instead of the ligaments.
@antiteroristickejedinicepo4830
@antiteroristickejedinicepo4830 Ай бұрын
What you think about sledgehammer workout for boxing power?
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