Why You NEED a Shortwave Radio Right Now.

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Farpoint Farms

Farpoint Farms

2 жыл бұрын

This is I video I didn't really want to make. It's a video I felt I needed to make. I stood in front of a camera for nearly an hour trying to come up with a way to say what needed to be said in a more eloquent way. I failed.
The truth is we are facing a change in our country that no one from my generation could have possibly imagined. While there is nothing that a person like me can do to change it, I can offer the free thinkers out there ways to stem the tide. This is one of those ways.
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@melissa-lf7ht
@melissa-lf7ht 2 ай бұрын
There’s those of us who know exactly what you’re trying to say and we appreciate it, because you are right!!
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words.
@whatwasthen
@whatwasthen 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, back during the cold war I listened to Radio Cuba, Moscow, and others. Heard what I knew was their propaganda but it helped paint in my mind what was really going on. Loved hearing about their cultures.
@erikk77
@erikk77 2 жыл бұрын
Same for me back in the late 1970s. I remember listening to Russian state radio propaganda saying how crummy capitalism is and how everyone is poor. I was like I don't see any of that here.
@Rvfootprints
@Rvfootprints 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. It was really eye-opening.
@l.a.2646
@l.a.2646 2 жыл бұрын
Very true that was probably one of the best times to be a shortwave listener especially listening to all the creepy numbers stations and unknown things! Also do you remember publications like popular communications used to assign (upon your request) official receiving station identification call signs. So if you wrote into the publication to announce what you heard you could put your call sign ( if you didn't have a ham or CB license to identify your station)
@AndrewTubbiolo
@AndrewTubbiolo 2 жыл бұрын
Radio Berlin International and STASI Gongs!
@BlueAgaveStudios
@BlueAgaveStudios 2 жыл бұрын
You discovered critical thinking when it wasn't cool to critical think.
@chrisowen5497
@chrisowen5497 2 жыл бұрын
I got my first sw radio back in the late 90’s and it really opened my eyes. Most people don’t understand how much of their media is simply propaganda. Thank you for putting this out there.
@nikolas_schreck
@nikolas_schreck 2 жыл бұрын
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@chrisowen5497
@chrisowen5497 Жыл бұрын
The US was the main one that I was referring to. CNN was/is the absolute worst offender.
@3dsmaxrocks699
@3dsmaxrocks699 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisowen5497 MSNBC has CNN beat. CNN is awful. MSNBC is CIA controlled BS
@davidr225
@davidr225 Жыл бұрын
Yes, it's obvious to me, that especially, Government funded, news/radio/TV, sadly, has become, propaganda or at least, sanitised content.
@toml.8210
@toml.8210 11 ай бұрын
Most people under about 50 don't even know what shortwave is: only internet or eye-phones!
@briangarrow448
@briangarrow448 2 жыл бұрын
One of the last projects I worked on before retirement was installing tsunami warning sirens along the coast of Washington state. After researching the Cascadia Subduction Zone and the history of earthquakes and tsunamis, I made the decision to leave my coastal home and move inland and upcountry to a less vulnerable location. Lucky for me I have family with property and a new shop that was large enough for an apartment for a retired grandfather. I have since become the prepper advocate for my extended family. My attitude is to educate the people I love and open their eyes to decision making that will improve their odds in emergency situations. After the last 2 years, the good natured teasing has all but disappeared from my family. Framing decisions as “buying insurance” has brought along a majority of the family. The empty grocery store shelves didn’t hurt my arguments either. Be safe. Be proactive. Think long term.
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms 2 жыл бұрын
Being proactive is huge, you are correct the west coast is on borrowed time.
@brianveitenheimer4492
@brianveitenheimer4492 2 жыл бұрын
I feel your pain! My fence sitter friends are now asking me about alternate media and comms. Seems being correct on outcomes of every issue in the last few years has swayed them. As far as offending people viewing your content? I have a feeling your viewers are here for the uncensored truth.
@jamesgullo8240
@jamesgullo8240 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@joannem3568
@joannem3568 2 жыл бұрын
👍😊🇺🇲🐸
@joannem3568
@joannem3568 2 жыл бұрын
I watch and listen to a young guy, named Salty cracker, some of you might be interested in somebody like this. He tells the truth. OMgossh
@RobertoAlvarezGalloso
@RobertoAlvarezGalloso 2 жыл бұрын
I used to listen to the shortwave radio from 1970 until 2012. Enjoyed the different viewpoints yet in 2012, the stations disappeared. I am going to have to revive my radio
@Macjohn1419
@Macjohn1419 2 жыл бұрын
I was an avid shortwave listener since I was 5 years old during the Cold War and enjoyed listening to foreign broadcasts for information. I still enjoy it and a shortwave radio is about as crucial as having a flashlight in an emergency. You are right in saying that we are being spoon fed what they want us to hear. Go get a shortwave radio and open up the world for yourself. Radio is and will always be king. Also don’t rely on using credit, debit or ATM cards. Always have money in the bank and on reserve. With what’s happening in Eastern Europe, people can’t get goods and services because electronic banking is shutdown. While basic supplies are tight over there, you can still procure items if you have cash. If you don’t think that can happen here, you are naive. Foreign governments can hack into our systems and shutdown our electronic transactions. Word to the wise.
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms 2 жыл бұрын
Well said sir!
@bobmcconomy9961
@bobmcconomy9961 2 жыл бұрын
Eric, thanks for this video. Despite the obvious difficulty you had in creating the video I think you nailed the topic in a very even handed way. I follow you from Canada and what you had to say applies to us as much as it applies to your closer neighbours. Pre-internet I used to go to the University library and read as many English language foreign newspapers as I could find. I also had a high school teacher who taught us that when reading news your first 2 questions should be who wrote the article and why. It is very rare to get a purely factual story. There is always opinion or perspective added in, intentionally or unintentionally. As you said, that is neither good or bad just something to be cognitive of. Thanks for all of your great videos and God bless your household.
@meagenb4968
@meagenb4968 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Erik. Yes, I see from you on the video that this was difficult to make. Here are my thoughts: 1) you made suggestions; 2) you gave options and 3) taught folks about the information they can get from shortwave radio. By definition, not failure. You met your mission on this channel - to teach. I could see that you were fighting giving any personal opinions and you succeeded. That's one thing you and I both have in common. I suspect that no matter where anyone lives, their economic position, their politics - that this video has helped to expand and educate folks, because of your channel(s). I certainly intend on staying subscribed. I doubt that anyone who is subscribed will go anywhere either. I would be interested in your educated opinion of the shortwave stations that I can get on the internet. Maybe the next video? Conclusion: well done.
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the kind words. I try to educate as best as I can
@joannem3568
@joannem3568 2 жыл бұрын
Good thing you made this video, if I had made it ,,, Oh would I have thrown out my option, boy howdy 🤣🤣🤣🐸 Reeeeeeeeeee. The Salt must flow I just bought a used Galaxy DX99V and I ordered some old CB books ,,, I'm trying
@maxwellsilver3115
@maxwellsilver3115 2 жыл бұрын
@@joannem3568 ReeeeEEee HA! It's amazing how often I run into Salty references lately.
@paulross9287
@paulross9287 Жыл бұрын
@@joannem3568 Salty Army is Legion!
@dronepilotflyby9481
@dronepilotflyby9481 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. 10 years ago my sister-in-law gave me a huge 30's floor model Atwater Kent AM shortwave and it works! This thing is a piece of furniture. You just inspired me to look for a recap kit and replace any components to keep it going.
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! That is very cool
@KC5TGTRadiosNMore
@KC5TGTRadiosNMore 2 жыл бұрын
Always good to have multiple sources for information. I agree with you and I’m glad you are reminding all of us that we still have options to receive information outside of mainstream sources.
@RJDA.Dakota
@RJDA.Dakota 2 жыл бұрын
I bought my first shortwave radio in about 1975. Once I got it I started listening and found out I didn’t want to let it go. I have heard and learned so much about the world around me with a shortwave or medium wave radio. It’s not about the receivers as much as it is about listening to the other side. Many times there’s more than two sides of a story. Also really like the different music and culture of the country that I am listening to. Greece or Brasil have wonderful stations on SW for the time. It’s just a shame that most of the big stations I used to receive aren’t always available anymore. There are always alternatives on SW.
@sl-turpen
@sl-turpen 2 жыл бұрын
With your inspirations and guidance, I've been able to start to form myself as a young 26 year old individual. You and other like you here on KZbin inspire me to block out the mainstream "life" and do things that 99.8 percent of my generation don't know how to do or refuse to learn. I've learned tremendous amounts of important information here from your channel alone on life itself. Whether it's through your repair and build videos, your radio videos, or anything else you put out here.. I learn. Thank you
@droiddoes58
@droiddoes58 2 жыл бұрын
I'm also 26 i feel it man we definitely are on a different level than most of the younger adults these days. Keep it up ! We got this 👍 I always joke that it's because I listened to oldies growing up xD
@jsorrien8642
@jsorrien8642 2 жыл бұрын
@@droiddoes58 Good to hear young men talking like young men should.
@l.a.2646
@l.a.2646 2 жыл бұрын
@@droiddoes58 my son is the same age as you guys, I've been a ham radio operator since I was 13 and always had a love for radio and all things mechanical, my son won't have anything to do with radio, I wish he would, he has been interested with computers and coding and hardware, I'm glad that some of you guys like radios. Get involved and you guys will be the future of radio and it's tech, there's an amazing amount of work to be done and yet discovered!
@droiddoes58
@droiddoes58 2 жыл бұрын
@@l.a.2646 appericate the heart warming comment
@droiddoes58
@droiddoes58 2 жыл бұрын
@@jsorrien8642 thank you sir your comment made me grin Iike an idiot 😀 😄 appericated !
@tommcintyre2963
@tommcintyre2963 2 жыл бұрын
Eric, Thank you sir for your efforts and dedication to revealing the truth. Where ever it is. I have been a ham for over 55 years and a Navy squadron communication officer early in my career. That means I have a slew of radios and still enjoy finding that rare station (DX) broadcasting their version of the truth. Currently listening to the reporting on the Ukraine crisis. Vastly different story compared to MSM. Please continue your efforts and know there is a large audience that appreciates and learns........................ Tom K9FLY
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words.
@jamescady723
@jamescady723 2 жыл бұрын
Eric, you did well. I appreciate your efforts!
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@jmatonis
@jmatonis 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your honesty. I've been listening to SWL most of my life and it's like you said, HIStory and HERstory. I remeber being in Japan listening to a North Korean RTTY news broadcast. It was very negative towards our country but it was a wake up call. Just because we are told that our country is greatest country and everything is unicorns and rainbows, the rest of the world may not see us in the same light and what we are being told isn't really the truth.
@thecat6062
@thecat6062 2 жыл бұрын
I feel your frustration Erik. Thanks for all you do. Peace brother!
@hatchetjackphillips
@hatchetjackphillips 2 жыл бұрын
You’re not alone on this. A lot of the locals I hear on the cb and truckers share the frustration. I’m still looking around for a good used SW radio.
@Tater26013
@Tater26013 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Eric, I appreciate your videos all of them and I am not going anywhere, if people can't think for themselves and allow others to make decisions for them well that's on them. You have given your viewers an avenue in this video to get another means of information or opinions so they can do their own critical thinking, some can do this and others can not. Thanks again.
@glasslinger
@glasslinger 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with these idiots that can't think for themselves have THE SAME VOTE POWER AS YOU DO! See what a mess THAT HAS GOTTEN US INTO NOW!
@chronotriggerfan
@chronotriggerfan 2 жыл бұрын
@@glasslinger Sadly, the electoral system is almost entirely captured and voting is a charade. Many people figured this out during 2020 but it's been going on for a lot longer than that. Our best bet at this point is to preserve our culture and way of life. The governance structure is simply too far gone.
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@joannem3568
@joannem3568 2 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@kd4baoc612
@kd4baoc612 2 жыл бұрын
The key word is "listening", and a good outdoor antenna will greatly help any radio including the cheapest ones to a point.
@tetornow
@tetornow 2 жыл бұрын
I'd go cheaper on a good radio before I go cheap on a good antenna setup. Antenna first. Radio second.
@Dallas-Rife-UDX-347-Tennessee
@Dallas-Rife-UDX-347-Tennessee 2 жыл бұрын
One thing that’s a bonus of having a couple base HF rigs , the one I’m currently using and hooked up , it receives from 0.30 kHz up to to 6 meter band . I listen to all kinds SW stations and news off a triband dipole ,, and if I hook it to my beams , it really picks up stations !
@ZiggySearchfieldCactus
@ZiggySearchfieldCactus 8 ай бұрын
I'm an Englishman living near London. I got one 🙂 I understand what you are saying, thank you 🙂
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms 8 ай бұрын
I am glad to hear that- take care my friend
@cbmikey
@cbmikey 2 жыл бұрын
Been following you for a while now sir and I think I can speak for a lot of others here that neither we or I are going away because you got flustered in a video. You did what you always do my friend. You informed and you gave options. Right now I'm just too engulfed in personal drama but I get it man, I do. Keep on keeping on bud. We appreciate you out here.
@ErikFrydenlundclark
@ErikFrydenlundclark 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this- and is exactly why I'm getting into the hobby now. Though I suspect you will find there are alot of like-minded people in your audience I appreciate your effort to not alienate those who aren't. Perhaps a less careful, ranty shortwave side channel is in order? No sense wasting passion. Also I could use to hear reviews about some of the less.. amenable programming available. 😉
@philipstaite4775
@philipstaite4775 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. I have a ... "less than stellar" ... little nearly toy survival radio my wife got. I can get maybe 3 stations with it. I'm now looking into getting a better radio and really seeing what's out there on the airwaves. I'm also a ham (technician), and I'm going to be setting up a home station.
@aaronwheeler3511
@aaronwheeler3511 2 жыл бұрын
@@philipstaite4775 up grade to a general license and get a HF transceiver, you'll be able to make contacts and listen to media at the same time.
@geraldhaggard1018
@geraldhaggard1018 Жыл бұрын
I listened to SW for many many years. Born in 1956, I was fascinated with radio, especially short wave. My then radio of choice was and still is a good vintage Hallicrafters receiver. Lots of memories when I was young. Thanks for the video.
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@IntoTheWild70
@IntoTheWild70 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe do a short 'how to find stations' video. Time of day and where. Lots of the shortwave videos go too deep. There has to be a place to find out what's broadcasting and when. *note to others: they move based on seasons
@031683naf
@031683naf 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up with my dad tinkering with military boat anchor radios and I had several iterations of the DX440/ATS803A. I use my shortwave radios quite often and listen to many places around our world. I found that we get a very edited version of world events. Long and short of it is this, find your own way to get the facts. There are a ton of news outlets that give us information. Learn how to find them and inform yourself. It may not be easy to dig through the propaganda and spin but you can. Distill world events by hearing each side. There are so many radios that are of different quality and size that this is the perfect time to get into the hobby. Tecsun has a line of small but powerful shortwave sets that are also available through CountyComm, a US army surplus dealer. Plus, there are a ton of tubesets available by Zenith, Hammarlund, Halicrafters and others. Plus we have SDR for those that lack space for traditional shortwave setups so the options are endless
@davidsradioroom9678
@davidsradioroom9678 2 жыл бұрын
You get such a broader view of what is going on in the world through shortwave. thanks for the rant!
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms 2 жыл бұрын
thank you
@Adgeatic
@Adgeatic Жыл бұрын
I'm new to your channel, and I must say that I understood the frustration of the message you wanted to express. We in general may have differences in social, political, or human philosophy, but your point is universally valid: we need other sources other than the few filtered ones. In most of the industries I've worked in, it usually came down to consolidation of various outlets, rendering them to just a handful. To have a way to listen to many outlets is a great opportunity that's important to take. Thanks for all of the info and keep up the great work!
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I try to stay in the middle and let people make their own decisions. Take care my friend.
@m.9243
@m.9243 2 жыл бұрын
Well said Eric! I have been doing this for many years as I knew the day would come, politicians would restrict our access to information. Censorship is a clear sign they are not telling the truth and they don't want us to find that out. I hope many people follow your advice and start exploring the air waves. There's a wealth of information out there. 73s
@philiprhodes5537
@philiprhodes5537 2 жыл бұрын
Totally on point erik and altho you struggled to get your message accross i hear you loud and clear and am with you all the way on this.. Ive said for many years radio was the first social network and ahead of its time and whilst everyone these days seems fixated with tech i try to keep mine to a minimum and have gone back to radio just for some decent conversation with local people who share similar veiws with me and we network that way and pass on information the old way and its great because it dont matter what we say there is no facebook algorythm that can censor or delete the conversation.. I have always said less is more and im going to buy a shortwave receiver just to see what i can pick up on it👍
@arghyam6
@arghyam6 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Eric, I got into shortwave after i started watching your videos and it has honestly been an eye-opener. You did a really good job here, and you have my appreciation from the other side of the globe.
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms 2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@markgodfrey6347
@markgodfrey6347 2 жыл бұрын
It's so sad that so many shortwave stations are gone. I listen to Radio Romania a lot Radio New Zealand , China etc. I miss stations like Radio Nederland and RSA, so on !
@BeachcomberNZ
@BeachcomberNZ 2 жыл бұрын
Here, in New Zealand, we call Radio New Zealand 'Red Radio', as it has a hard Left bias. It's basically the government's mouthpiece radio station, especially now that we have a hard-Left government in power. If you're on the political Left, then, fine, keeping listening, but if you're not, you won't be getting a balanced viewpoint.
@lowellleber1722
@lowellleber1722 2 жыл бұрын
@@BeachcomberNZ As a Yank I have noticed that bias. That said it neat to be able to listen to a broadcast from New Zealand in the eastern US where I live. Definitely the greatest distance I have picked up.
@geraldperyman6535
@geraldperyman6535 8 ай бұрын
​@@BeachcomberNZIt depends on your political outlook ,to call RNZ hard left is rediculous.This medium has given crackpots a voice.
@artykohl1118
@artykohl1118 Жыл бұрын
I was a short wave listener since 1981 when I was given a radio for my birthday. I had heard my Uncle's in 1976 and from that time I wanted one of my own. WWV was the first station. Then Moscow, some weird rock and roll song. From the time I started seriously listening, I've never accepted one narrative as the final piece of info I need. A few years ago, after not being into shortwave for a while, my dad handed me a radio and said I could listen to airplanes on it like he and I used to enjoy doing together, but it was shortwave and no aircraft. I tuned up and down and found nothing. "Where did it all go??" I thought. Silent.
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms Жыл бұрын
There are still stations but they are getting rare as less people tune in. Get a long wire antenna and they will spring back into the radio!
@garypaulson5202
@garypaulson5202 3 ай бұрын
Saw this video for the first time 2 years after it was made. Thank you sir
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms 2 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@rvsam4u
@rvsam4u Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video. As a kid I used to listen to radio Free Europe and it broadened my mind and viewpoint. I'm definitely buying a shortwave radio. Subscribed.
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Yes, these radios open you up to all sides of a story, not just the one from your own country.
@Mavv.err.ickk506
@Mavv.err.ickk506 2 жыл бұрын
We'll never get real truth as long as certain groups control the MSM. I'm right there with you, man. I'm so damn frustrated down here. That "local station" down here that you have a couple of pics posted from has REALLY gone that 'other' direction. Hell, I hardly watch regular television anymore and stopped watching that station I'm talking about when a certain friend of ours left. And hell, he's happier than ever these days! Eric y'all stay safe up there. Still mega-support from down here in 'The Quay'.
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms 2 жыл бұрын
Good to hear from you! It's getting worse everyday. I keep hoping it will change, but we are not there yet.
@Mavv.err.ickk506
@Mavv.err.ickk506 2 жыл бұрын
@@FarpointFarms brother all we can do is stay vigilant, and stay the course. Hope y'all are doing well, enjoying the content. Take care my friend!
@dfgroup
@dfgroup 2 жыл бұрын
Eric, please don't ever hesitate to say what needs to be said. I doubt much of your audience will be offended by the truth. Most I am sure follow your channel because they are like minded peeps. Thank you for doing this video I think it was spot on and would have been even better had you not restrained your comments. Cuz' sometimes the truth hurts!
@joannem3568
@joannem3568 2 жыл бұрын
Reeeeeeeeee🐸🐸🐸🐸🐸👍
@joegee2815
@joegee2815 2 жыл бұрын
I used to listen to shortwave ages ago. I've been a ham radio operator since before the Internet existed. I've got several radios and should probably get them out, dusted off, and tuned in. Thanks for this.
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms 2 жыл бұрын
That's the cool part of the hobby. We can put it away for a few years, and when we take it back out, the tech is nearly the same so it all still works!
@user-hv7pv1em8t
@user-hv7pv1em8t 10 ай бұрын
Eric. Been following your videos for a while and I always find them informative and useful. Just wanted to say thanks for your honesty in this one and saying what needs to be said! 👍
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the continued support. Comments like this is one reason why I continue to make them
@markg.taylor1675
@markg.taylor1675 2 жыл бұрын
I could not have pulled off this video without letting my own opinions get in the way. I think you did a great job of that.
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms 2 жыл бұрын
thank you
@deerhunter-uj9xb
@deerhunter-uj9xb 2 жыл бұрын
I have a few in my ham shack. Its a shame that people get "triggered" when the truth is told. People have lost the ability to weigh out two sources of information and make a determination of what makes sense. Thanks for the video !
@joannem3568
@joannem3568 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@bobgillis1137
@bobgillis1137 2 жыл бұрын
"Triggering" suggests conditioning is happening.
@dand3975
@dand3975 2 жыл бұрын
I listen to local ham radio repeater, they have been completlely conditioned.
@joannem3568
@joannem3568 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobgillis1137 interesting 🤔
@Rhythmicons
@Rhythmicons 2 жыл бұрын
People need to weigh more than two sources of info!
@alsparks8709
@alsparks8709 2 жыл бұрын
At first I watched your videos for the different radios ( cb, ham, short wave ,gmrs) and all the fun things now I see what you are really made of and so I have here by subscribed may God be with you in the trying times ahead thank you
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms 2 жыл бұрын
as to you my friend
@krisdouglas6536
@krisdouglas6536 Жыл бұрын
New to radio. I’m from Scotland and I feel what you can’t say and I agree. Thanks.
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir!
@bretthibbs6083
@bretthibbs6083 2 жыл бұрын
I have a shortwave radio that I got over 20 years ago it's a radio shack multi band and it still works. Also don't worry about being upset we are living in some really tough times now and it's scary and I think everyone including me is pretty upset about what's going on in the world right now stay safe
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms 2 жыл бұрын
thanks, you stay safe too
@joannem3568
@joannem3568 2 жыл бұрын
Ditto brother. Ditto. 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲👍
@dwighthitchens9838
@dwighthitchens9838 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, one that needed to be made. I listen to SW daily. If anyone wants to invest in a new radio the Tecsun PL-330 is a very good radio for the money. Amazon has it for $80. AM/FM/LW/SW with side band. I listened to Radio Thailand this morning on it without an external antenna so it is a really good radio. It does have a jack for an external antenna which will improve the reception. There’s a lot of reviews on KZbin to check out. It’s not my most expensive radio or my best one but it is the one I use most of the time. Regardless of the radio, SW radio will give you insight on what the rest of the world is thinking. And that important too. Just my opinion.
@ferdinandmeyer8354
@ferdinandmeyer8354 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I have a Pl 600 that I listen to almost every day also. Darn good radios.
@chronotriggerfan
@chronotriggerfan 2 жыл бұрын
Just picked up a Tecsun PL-330 last week, my first shortwave among an army of VHF/UHF transceivers. I agree, it's a really impressive piece of equipment for the price. I would definitely recommend springing for it over some of the cheaper options due to the LSB/USB tuning. Being able to monitor the HF HAM bands is a huge advantage as there are lots of like-minded operators out there who can provide extra intel/news/perspectives on their nets.
@val2952
@val2952 2 жыл бұрын
@@ferdinandmeyer8354 just ordered one. Thanks for suggesting
@ferdinandmeyer8354
@ferdinandmeyer8354 2 жыл бұрын
@@val2952 your welcome.
@joannem3568
@joannem3568 2 жыл бұрын
I just Purchased a used Galaxy DX99V And I ordered a few old CB books. I'm trying to learn. And yes I'd like to get a Ham radio
@JDHart
@JDHart 2 жыл бұрын
Well done brother! There is a lot more of us than you know. Great video. "Truth is the first casualty of war".
@johnbarnhart7943
@johnbarnhart7943 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for caring and daring. Its sad that we cant just say what we want anymore for fear of being canceled. Not just by a platform, but by our government rulers.
@JonathanMcKey
@JonathanMcKey 2 жыл бұрын
That bleep got my attention there! Erik goes rogue and curses for the first time.... I know what you mean, I am horrible at explaining things, either you know or don't know what I am talking about. Although sometimes I forget when to stop talking and end up offending people, about anything.
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms 2 жыл бұрын
I try to keep it family friendly and not curse, but this time I could not edit it out
@JohnMDiLiberto
@JohnMDiLiberto 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the affirmation, Eric! I've been beating this drum (as a licensed amateur myself) within my own sphere of influence.
@chronotriggerfan
@chronotriggerfan 2 жыл бұрын
73s!
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@garymoyer648
@garymoyer648 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Erik, I've been a subscriber for about a year. I catch all your videos & have gone back & watched most that you have made. I connected with you due to my dad was a big CB guy back in the 70s. Currently I have my own radios, don't make the time to get on much lately. Thank you for this video. I can tell you were holding back. We (most of us) as listeners totally agree with what you said & probably much more of what you didn't say. Were not going anywhere. Keep up the great content. Look forward to seeing what you may share in the future! Gary
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words
@michaelerickson2116
@michaelerickson2116 2 жыл бұрын
I have been researching shortwave radios for the reasons stated in you video. after watching the video I decided that it was time to purchase one.I have subscribed to you channel and will be stopping by to watch more.Thank you for your channel.
@davidjernigan8161
@davidjernigan8161 2 жыл бұрын
Another option is an software defined radio with software like fldigi so you can listen to both normal audio, and also decode digital modes. The biggest thing with any radio is a good antenna with good coax.
@joerowland7350
@joerowland7350 2 жыл бұрын
30 plus years I sarted in ham radio n that whut all the old timers told me Antenna n coax is the most important n it the truth
@Rvfootprints
@Rvfootprints 2 жыл бұрын
When I started listening to shortwave, I was astounded by the differences in what we were taught and what was broadcast in other countries, and that was back in the early 70s. We turned off our cable about 15 years ago and started looking for alternate news sources. We have come to deplore mainstream media. We will look into multiple sources and prefer man on the street accounts for events. We also read overseas publications that include media in the countries that our politicians are trying desperately to start a war with. Good thing is that you and I are ideologically aligned, as I suspect that most of your viewers are, too. Stay the course and keep bringing us quality videos!
@BlueAgaveStudios
@BlueAgaveStudios 2 жыл бұрын
Care to give us an example or your top three? People don't seem to want to say that part, is the quiet part?
@KlodFather
@KlodFather 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlueAgaveStudios - English Beijing China, English Radio Cuba, English Russian broadcast. Also BBC, Austrailia used to have shortwave broadcast, and the Canadians. Many European countries have lower power shortwave broadcast.
@johnmurrin9734
@johnmurrin9734 Жыл бұрын
encouraging! the worlds needs to hear this. i went on here because of a shortwave i saw for sale. thank you
@panaxo
@panaxo Жыл бұрын
I live in Chile, a long ass country, and once I traveled hundreds of kilometers, so I bought a really cheap radio so I could listen to music on the trip. When the trip ended, I started to play with that radio, taking long copper wire and setting it up in trees. I was able to listen chinese stations, cuban number stations and so much more.
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms Жыл бұрын
That must have been a great long wire antenna for sure- Have a great new years
@mattstosh6960
@mattstosh6960 2 жыл бұрын
I see a computer monitor in the background so let me add this: With free software (SDRuno) and a small piece of hardware - RSP1A ($140.00) and a simple long-wire antenna out your rear window, you can listen to just about everything you can imagine. The radios you briefly shown are great although somewhat diminished in higher frequency. The small size RSP1A (cigarette pack size) have capability you cannot imagine:: satellites, weather fax reception, Medium wave, Long wave, Broadcaste frequencies, VHF/UHF (think airplanes) and even some of the NASA probes. Please explore....
@guardianobserver6593
@guardianobserver6593 2 жыл бұрын
It's too late! There is nothing serious (and understanding) to listen nowadays!
@notsorandumusername
@notsorandumusername Жыл бұрын
@@guardianobserver6593 That is, like, your opinion man!
@joshuakaeble7810
@joshuakaeble7810 8 ай бұрын
Don't worry about offending people, brother. Some people wake up ready and willing to be offended. I'm 44 and as I get older, I'm moving farther away from new technology and returning to all of the older stuff. I'm also putting much more distance between myself and other people. I just can't handle the stupidity anymore. Great video and keep up the good work.
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms 8 ай бұрын
I agree- I feel like the movie idiocracy is coming true
@jeffreyhoffman8251
@jeffreyhoffman8251 2 жыл бұрын
Good advice. Thanks for being "brave" and putting it out there WHY a SW radio is helpful/needed. I'll watch more, and more often.
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the support
@lendavidhart9710
@lendavidhart9710 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Farpoint farms, good stuff your talking about, some folks are very happy to hear the "packaged" information they get from the usual sources whether they are sitting in front of a TV, a computer, or a "preacher", or a professor, BUT some have ears to hear, and never have bought anything false.... I have to get back into SWL, thank you for I r the reminder!
@k9tm
@k9tm 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video why my wife NEEDS a CB radio???
@User-ji4rn
@User-ji4rn 2 жыл бұрын
🤣 besides it being fun, in the case of a total collapse and phone signal is dead, it is the way to go.
@joannem3568
@joannem3568 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@richardmillican7733
@richardmillican7733 2 жыл бұрын
The BBC have restarted their SW services into eastern Europe recently, they had shut down that service in 2008. I think many many services will now restart... Including VOA, Radio Moscow, maybe even Radio Terhana? It's a shame it's taken a war for this to happen. All the best Eric, Cheers from North Wales, United Kingdom.
@jesseb6656
@jesseb6656 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for sticking it out through your frustrations cuz I think you made a banger of a video dude! Well done!
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms 10 ай бұрын
I appreciate it!
@robinj.9329
@robinj.9329 2 жыл бұрын
I certainly understand your concerns about trying hard NOT TO OFFEND or "Trigger" that certain portion of our population. BUT....... "Those folks"? You will discover, with experience, that it is near IMPOSSIBLE to avoid ! Just "Tell the TRUTH, the whole TRUTH, and nothing but the TRUTH. And then, let the chips fall where they may. Wise words from the finest Man I ever knew. My own Grandfather! Born in 1898 and past on in 1994. A kind, gentle and intelligent man.
@ZenithClarity
@ZenithClarity 2 жыл бұрын
YES. We are being lied to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@QuaaludeCharlie
@QuaaludeCharlie 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you , I have a Shack out back with a few and a 1960's Home TV Antenna fitted with Mercury , can Hear the Whole Realm Some Nights :) QC
@PhilTParker
@PhilTParker 3 ай бұрын
Right with you…being able to hear both sides of a story is very important. I gave up watching the news back in early 2020. The narratives made me feel like I was being spoon fed only one viewpoint. I couldn’t continue in that way, so I get my news from Twitter or “X”, KZbin videos etc. This makes me very curious about shortwave. I even have a SW radio around somewhere but it is pretty old and all analogue. Who knows…perhaps I will pick up a nicer electric one that lets me store channels as presets…and I’m wondering if I want a transceiver. We will see. Thanks for the video!!!
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms 3 ай бұрын
You are welcome, I applaud you at realizing that there is more than what they are telling us and it is OK to look for other sides. It is like getting a second opinion from a different doctor- You might get the same answer or a different one
@bryanbrowning5746
@bryanbrowning5746 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know how I missed this video when it came out, but I agree with you 100% on all of your reasons for having a shortwave radio! I have a 1940’s tube type radio that my Dad rebuilt and grounded properly that’s hooked up to an outside antenna. I also have an Eton Elite 750, and a few low priced radios. That old tube Hallicrafter radio can often rival the Eton for its ability to fine tune finicky stations! Anyway, good message, and I understand your frustration at getting your point across without offending someone!
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms Жыл бұрын
Thank you- I am glad to hear that you still have the old radio that your dad rebuilt- I have an older tube radio that still works great even though it will pick up some electrical noise. (electric fence)
@IntoTheWild70
@IntoTheWild70 2 жыл бұрын
AMEN. That's how I found you. Bought a CB and a Tecsun 990. Sooo tired of being fed news from a single point of view and basically LED down the path they want you to.
@joannem3568
@joannem3568 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my. They took my comment down
@joannem3568
@joannem3568 2 жыл бұрын
I was just sharing information Robert, try the gateway pundit for news
@joannem3568
@joannem3568 2 жыл бұрын
If you comment me back I'll give you some more good information on news sites. And the like.
@joannem3568
@joannem3568 2 жыл бұрын
Oops, on KZbin also. For now.
@joannem3568
@joannem3568 2 жыл бұрын
Mark Dice and Dr. Steve Turley, very good and on yt. For now anyway
@Cowboy-we6kr
@Cowboy-we6kr 2 жыл бұрын
Eric, you’ll find there’s a lot of like minded people that watch your videos. Keep speaking the truth no matter who’s feathers it ruffles. God bless!
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I will
@chronotriggerfan
@chronotriggerfan 2 жыл бұрын
@@FarpointFarms Please do, Eric - God has a way of drawing out synchronicities in like-minded people. I found your channel through your garden tractor reviews. As a HAM, I was happy to find that you were into radios as well. Just last week, I picked up my first shortwave receiver. Then you go and put this video out. Just like a radio, many of us are tuned to the same frequency, even if Farpoint Farms hasn't explicitly talked about ideological topics in the past ;) I wish you would, though! The hour is getting late.
@Pirahnaxxx
@Pirahnaxxx 2 жыл бұрын
Well said my North Carolina neighbor. Most of the listeners understand exactly what you are trying to say. We hear you. Thanks for the encouraging video on getting information around the world and as uncensored as possible. Be safe & God Bless.
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that
@stephenpaden626
@stephenpaden626 2 жыл бұрын
Eric, great job on your video and telling the truth,this world is changing before are very eye's and people don't even see it,So sad,not the world my father grew up in,as he just turned 83 this month,Praise God,My dad and I both have a older Realistic DX-390 shortwave radios,and we both enjoy listening to the News and so forth with no filter,etc.....it's important to have a source of communication other than a cell phone, especially in these days ( I have a Ranger 2995 DXCF hooked up to a Antron 99,also a police scanner, shortwave radios,etc) times are changing, and I'm afraid not for the better, keep up the great work that you do,and God Bless you and your Family, Stay Strong in the Truth!
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I am glad to hear that you and your dad are still listening. Stay safe
@Adrian-jk4kx
@Adrian-jk4kx 2 жыл бұрын
Very important what we all know you are saying.........The " Thought control thugs have crossed the line"
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms 2 жыл бұрын
agreed
@IVChan
@IVChan 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, I did not know about shortwave until just before the Russia Conflict. I went ahead and got a Tecsun 9012 (working wonders) to keep me informed without censorship. Greetings from Puerto Rico
@EbuBax
@EbuBax 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I just found your channel. Found you for the radio information, but staying for the wisdom and your obvious desire to help others know the truth (whatever it might be)
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard! Thank for the kind words
@tomdonahoe3539
@tomdonahoe3539 8 ай бұрын
Spot on! I think you handled this topic exceptionally well. You didn't take sides but encouraged people to get news from various sources, *OUTSIDE* North America, and evaluate it for themselves. That is a great suggestion. I personally listen to DW (Germany) radio New Zealand. Radio Portugal, radio Netherlands, radio Finland, among others.The news from some of them is a bit more even handed than our MSM. If any station has a particular agenda, that becomes clear pretty quickly. It is all about developing your critical thinking skills - it's helpful to source other viewpoints when doing that. I'm listening on an old Realistic DX-440. Thank you for this 😊.
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms 8 ай бұрын
Great radio to get your news on- There is so much news that never makes it out- People need to hear more and make their own opinions
@almartiniii1541
@almartiniii1541 2 жыл бұрын
Agree with you 💯 percent. I've been looking for a good working classic but In light of current climate have started looking for which new model will best balance receive/cost. On a lighter more fun note, have you kept up with the winner of the radio station giveaway from a while back? Hope they got it up and running. Take care my friend and 73s
@davidbruner9263
@davidbruner9263 2 жыл бұрын
Well done Sir. As a ham radio operator and overall radio nut I have said the same thing for years. would love to see more videos about sw from you in the future.
@davidbrock4104
@davidbrock4104 2 жыл бұрын
There is also a case to be made for getting that ham radio ticket so one can communicate directly with individuals in various countries. Good video, gonna check out shortwave.
@snakezdewiggle6084
@snakezdewiggle6084 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid, great content. Thanx for taking the time. Cheerz n' beers from VK3... land. ;)
@VE3RKP
@VE3RKP 2 жыл бұрын
" Your radio is only as good as it's antenna. "
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms 2 жыл бұрын
very good point
@ocsrc
@ocsrc 2 жыл бұрын
During World War II businesses that did radio and TV repair were ordered by the war department to disable shortwave on any set that came into their shop Having done a lot of research on Cold War communications I know our government has the stations and the capability to jam any frequencies they want and in the past they have and I am shocked they haven't already jammed the shortwave with the war going on
@arthurjurkowitsch9785
@arthurjurkowitsch9785 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and yes. It is very important now. I have been out of the hubby for years and now feel it is more important then ever before to get back into it. And I have. Thank you for sharing and thank you for having the b@@ls to talk up. I know how hard this video was to make for you. Well done brother. It is a sham that in the greatest country in the world ( yes it still is ) we are afraid of speaking our minds. Live free or Die. And God bless our troops and God bless America.
@garypenz743
@garypenz743 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I agree that probably had to be tough to make. I am with you 100%. Even looking into an Eton Elite 750. I figure I might as well go for the best. I have a few of the smaller shortwave radios currently. I can read between the lines. I think we're on the same page, 100%. Thanks for this truth. Spot on Eric! Love your channel. Glad I found it. Keep them coming and just tell it like it is. Probably more of us with you than you may realize.
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms 2 жыл бұрын
Right on, thanks for the support
@ferdinandmeyer8354
@ferdinandmeyer8354 2 жыл бұрын
Very well put Eric, SW is definitely the only way now a days to get both sides of the story. At this point I think the people that are awake as to what's going are already thinking along the same lines as us. For the rest to wake up I don't know how bad its going to have to get before they see it......if they ever will. Anyway thank you for another good on. God bless you and yours brother.
@toml.8210
@toml.8210 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, but why is it that there are as many SW experts as there are SW channels on KZbin? All you really need, besides the radio is a proper antenna, which has just as many confusing results (what is a proper antenna, and how do you put it up?)
@ferdinandmeyer8354
@ferdinandmeyer8354 2 жыл бұрын
@@toml.8210 even if you put an alligator clip on a long copper wire and run it around your ceiling in a room and hook the alligator clip to your telescoping antenna it will vastly improve your reception. If you want fancier just put in SW antenna on Amazon and there are quite a few that are plug and play.
@hankhamner3671
@hankhamner3671 2 жыл бұрын
As an amateur radio operator, I have found that the ability to pick up voice signals (as opposed to CW or morse code) with a SW receiver depends mainly on propagation and antenna. I rarely can hear more than 1,000 miles away even with a 35 foot antenna.
@user-mq7ej8je7f
@user-mq7ej8je7f 2 жыл бұрын
Something I never thought of are you saying swr helps to hear the other end of a conversation? Meaning your hearing other end of conversation through swr vs cb
@shawnstatzer95
@shawnstatzer95 2 жыл бұрын
The only problem, is I do not speak every language. However, I still have been earnest about getting one. Traveling the world has really opened my eyes to the truths or untruths spead globally. Great video. Thank you.
@ziptie7112
@ziptie7112 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for saying what most of us are thinking. Your viewers know exactly what your meaning is. Super video. Keep up the good work.
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Will do!
@maryrafuse3851
@maryrafuse3851 Жыл бұрын
In my mind the most disappointing absences from the SW band are Radio Canada International and Radio Australia. This along with BBC which is a shadow of its former self. At least BBC did not destroy all of its facilities. SW uses the most sophisticated and elegant technology using the ionosphere as a natural satellite to beam signals without the need for vulnerable multiple transmission points. SW transmission points are secure and defendable in a way that newer technologies will never be. Receivers are far more sophisticated than ever before, some utilize digital signal processing to clean up the audio. The so called experts who doomed SW are simply wrong in their dismissal of it. They simply do not understand its strategic value. Having lived through the September storm that struck Atlantic Canada I can speak first hand about the terrible deficiencies within cell phone service and all FM technologies that must be boosted & rebroadcast again and again. These systems simply fall apart when weather or war take them down. They are labour intensive to reestablish and only fools depend on them. Government fools!
@FarpointFarms
@FarpointFarms Жыл бұрын
I agree 110%.
@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069
@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 2 жыл бұрын
Top Man , I agree with everything you say , telling the truth in the UK has actually become a criminal offence. FACT
@WaynePatrick
@WaynePatrick 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always my friend. Thanks for what you do. Hope you follow up with some simple long wire antenna ideas too. It is difficult times no matter where you are globally and or politically you need information from all sources to make your own opinions. Keep up the great work.
@dannyedwards7990
@dannyedwards7990 2 жыл бұрын
Your video is greatly appreciated. I have a portable shortwave with sideband but reception sucks at my house. I’ll keep working on it!
@chronotriggerfan
@chronotriggerfan 2 жыл бұрын
A simple longwire antenna will help a lot with reception. If your radio has an external antenna jack, you can buy one for around $15 on Amazon/eBay and the like. But if it doesn't, simply take a wire that's around 20 feet or so and solder an alligator clip to the other end. Fasten the alligator clip to the top of the telescoping antenna and toss the wire as high as you can get it. Will dramatically increase reception! Being outside also helps signal attenuation as the RF spectrum is very dirty these days. Good luck!
@LandseerNorth
@LandseerNorth 2 жыл бұрын
Don't know how anyone could disagree with you Erik.
@PhpGtr
@PhpGtr Жыл бұрын
Well all he said was "Don't trust the media, get a SW radio". OK... example? Did he hear a bit of news in another language that refutes what was seen on the network news last night? I am not diminishing SW in any way - it's a blast. But to slag off our brave reporters, some of whom are risking their lives for extended periods overseas, is just a kick in the nuts. Damn unpatriotic if you think about it. Look, just because Fox News says the NY Times is biased, doesn't make the NY Times biased or in any way inaccurate. And you absolutely cannot say the inverse.
@No1Bigbear
@No1Bigbear 2 жыл бұрын
Howdy..why don't you put your uncut version on bitchute?..your correct on everything.. All sides are lying and corrupt...
@JonathanMcKey
@JonathanMcKey 2 жыл бұрын
They'll probably pull it off there, but I was thinking the same thing!
@No1Bigbear
@No1Bigbear 2 жыл бұрын
@@JonathanMcKey He should at least try to put it up somewhere..He always has great information and content..I would like to have him make longer videos but that's his call...have a great day!
@fluffywaffles
@fluffywaffles 2 жыл бұрын
Bitchute is pretty tolerant of dissident opinions. You'd have to go total Farpointwaffen for them to notice. Even then you would still be fine especially after seeing some of the stuff on the site.
@No1Bigbear
@No1Bigbear 2 жыл бұрын
@@fluffywaffles You are correct Sir!
@chrispy6313
@chrispy6313 2 жыл бұрын
Well said Sir. Love your videos! Today more than ever SW radio is important. I have the Eaton and a random wire antenna to a tree, I listen to the World. I have recently written to some international contacts to revive broadcasts.
@peterlutz7191
@peterlutz7191 2 жыл бұрын
Today's news is actually commentary and opinion, occasionally interrupted by news. My late father used to listen on his Blaupunkt tabletop shortwave, to keep up with what was happening in West Germany (We're immigrants). When we came to the U.S. in 1961, He brought his tools and the radio. Now my younger brother has the radio, still works great, original tubes are still in it.
@joannem3568
@joannem3568 2 жыл бұрын
Commentary and opinions, man are you spot on. 👍 just bought a Galaxy DX99V, I'm learning
@diamondmetalworks13
@diamondmetalworks13 2 жыл бұрын
You did a good job getting the point across. I’m with ya, So difficult with the cancel culture taking over. I picked up a Tecsun pl-660. It is a huge learning curve. To figure out what channels to tune in. I like the skip on hams. Maybe you can put out a list of the frequencies you like best? Thanks Eric. It’s a good video. You’re doing the right thing and all this crazy shall pass. Dave 211 in WI on a mobile.
@AkersAdventures
@AkersAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is sensible people like you and I understand that this is an opinion and if you don’t like it move on… childish and immature people will get triggered. It is important that people with a platform like yourself start speaking up before we can’t.
@joannem3568
@joannem3568 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
@gerrydepp8164
@gerrydepp8164 2 жыл бұрын
Well that was perfect ...I just bought a little Tecsun pl 330 to get started as I had come to the exact conclusion you so gallantly tried to convey. I have to revert to being a kid again mucking about and seeing if any noise comes out..no not that bad! But I'll be back to your channel. Cheers from Aotearoa (NZ)
@andrewellis4974
@andrewellis4974 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the video and passion you bring to every episode. Don't ever change. Shortwave has broadened my view of the world we live in. Mainstream really can't be trusted anymore.
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