Why You Should Buy The BRZ / GR86 Now

[@kirauno]

people who watching this are already decided to buy gr86/brz 🤣

[@irishblendmonster1072]

ordered mine A month ago at this point im in shambles please help

[@volknasty5880]

Ordered my 24 BRZ Limited at the beginning of March, should be here in May!

[@kirauno]

@@volknasty5880 congrats!

[@volknasty5880]

@@kirauno thank you! I'm very excited!

[@kirauno]

@@volknasty5880 i still remember the feeling on the delivery day :D best feeling ever

[@khayon4364]

I got my Gr86 in May of 2023 - without fault it is the most fun vehicle I have ever driven and it always makes me smile when I drive it. It helps the wife and kid love it too so its staying in the family! It's my favorite purchase I have ever made.

[@JTelesco]

Nice great to hear that 👍🏼

[@jacobpoe9746]

I’ve had my gr86 2 years already lol. Funnest car I’ve ever owned! Completely stock still

[@Whileweweresinners]

Congratulations on 500 🎉

[@JTelesco]

Ty bro, cannot be more thankful ❤️. It’s only ☝🏼 from here!

[@85WD]

I have a 2021 STI, you can fit 2 wheel in the trunk, 2 in the back with the seats folded down. Same as BRZ

[@JTelesco]

Have had to pack those before, they actually hold a lot

[@leom8605]

Got mine this May , every day since then I'm falling more in love with it, the interesting thing is we don't have BRZ in the UK only GR86 and the engines are slightly bigger , they generate 235 horse power also they all come as a premium model, we don't have the base models like in the us and they cost aroun 42k in us dollars.

[@JTelesco]

Nice to hear you’re enjoying! The motors in the BRZ and 86 are the same though, zero difference.

[@leom8605]

@@JTelesco I know, but there is difference between the GR86 engines in the UK and I think the rest of Europe and the GR86/BRZ engines in the USA, the ones in the UK and Europe are 235 horse power , whereas the ones in the USA are 228 hp, not sure if those 7 horses would make much difference but I think they probably do and I'm surprised, thought it should have been the other way around.

[@bearclaw5115]

Not 235HP. 235PS. 235PS is equivalent to 232HP. But I'm not sure there is any actual difference to the engine between countries. Perhaps different ratings due to higher octane fuel. It certainly isn't bigger. And the engine is under-rated in any case. It actually makes around 245HP at the crank. And now the GR86 is discontinued in the U.K. and Europe so the U.S. has the last laugh after all! Get'm while you can that is for sure.

[@CollectorCarFeed]

Facts facts facts

[@JTelesco]

No 🖨️

[@dutchberry]

future classic if you keep them in good shape

[@JTelesco]

Yes indeed, truly a beautiful car 💎

[@dutchberry]

@@JTelescobeen driving 17 brz as a daily for last 6 year. new HKS suspension and exhaust. Sound on my channel

[@JTelesco]

@@dutchberry Thats what’s up, she sounds great! Thinking about the HKS myself 🤔

[@dexstrat9229]

got my brz 3 months ago just finished break in :)

[@JTelesco]

Let’s goo! Enjoy the experience my dood 🤘🏼

[@bearclaw5115]

Break-in doesn't really take that long but that's a crazy topic.

[@J.R.F.23]

I’m so looking forward to getting the 2024 BRZ that I ordered. Subaru was willing to do it for sticker price; while Toyota wanted $1500 above sticker without picking the color I wanted. Bye bye Toyota, Hello Subaru 😎.

[@JTelesco]

That seems to be the reoccurring theme here 🤔 props to Subaru 🫡

[@J.R.F.23]

@@JTelesco that Toyota dealership had sold me 2 previous cars too. One in 2005 and one in 2018. I informed the manager that he has lost my future business, do to practices that Toyota doesn’t even want them doing. I didn’t even have to haggle with Subaru. Upfront the Subaru dealer explained due to limited availability he has to sell it for sticker price (no discounts); but said if there was any vehicle in stock we could possibly negotiate. If a dealership won’t treat me right; they will not get my business.

[@JTelesco]

@@J.R.F.23 Rare W for subie

[@droctogonapus8162]

@@J.R.F.23damn, I was super lucky to get sticker price, plus a $500 discount on mine.

[@fnizzle8805]

Got mine 1 1/2 years ago, just hit the milestone of 8008 miles 😁

[@JTelesco]

Woot I’m in almost a year 🤘🏼

[@bearclaw5115]

Why is that a milestone? You probably hit 8080 and 8888 miles by now too!

[@ReevesTop]

Waiting for my 24 BRZ TS! Cant wait! Hopefully end of June! Gonna go full boost!!!

[@JTelesco]

Boost!! 🐌 Good luck with her!

[@AM-ix6kx]

Order mine not too long ago should be here someday lol 🤷🏾‍♂️😩🥲

[@elizabethromano753]

Dud your gonna love it I got mine a few months ago 6 speed manual quick enough and handles Like a go cart for sure

[@JTelesco]

Hype dood! Take good care of her 🫡

[@AM-ix6kx]

@@elizabethromano753 Shid I hope my eta got pushed to the end July 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@khayon4364]

Worth every moment of waiting. Once you have it its Smiles per Mile, not MPG that you are gonna measure.

[@nn99nn99]

go kart every day!

[@misterdarkcloud2384]

about 1k on mine so far. and yeah its the best car for the money imo aside from maybe a z but actually find me a 2020+ z for less than 30k yeah didn't think so... lol :D

[@JTelesco]

Dude 370z prices are ludicrous, also a totally different beast

[@Barbwire710]

So many of those 370s are clapped.

[@JTelesco]

@@Barbwire710 Yup and then there’s that 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@TwoDollarGararge]

400z is decent but marked up to high hell local dealer wants 80k for a manual 400z No thanks. I could go to the Porsche dealer and buy a certified used 911 with warranty for that kind of money. And I will have a car that isn't a reheated 370Z with a re-style because Nissan is broke.

[@bearclaw5115]

The Z is terrible. Same car from 2003 when I drove it. New engine is nice but the car drives like a brick and worst of all, the new one is overpriced.

[@drillbit_345]

Got mine a week ago its amazing!!!

[@JTelesco]

Nice enjoy her

[@BlackNAVYAmericanVET]

Gasket glue fixed ?

[@JTelesco]

It was really a nonissue, just some excess RTV. Up to you if you wanna drop the pan. Real issue is the oil drop however, Symms baffle design seems to be the fix for it next to an accusump.

[@Kz3andMore]

Just hit 50k kms with mine. 31k miles more lr less xd

[@JTelesco]

Still goin strong 💪🏼

[@YoYo-vc1os]

i seen this car in a parking lot its so small though lol

[@JTelesco]

Small but mighty

[@droctogonapus8162]

Already got mine last weeeeeek

[@arbaz102]

Hm was it out the door? If you don’t mind

[@JTelesco]

That’s what’s up dood

[@gamelord]

You kinda sound like Robin from Teen Titans.

[@JTelesco]

As long as it’s the OG, I’ll take it

[@TwoDollarGararge]

This and the miata is the last of its kind and if the rumors are to be believed that the next miatas going to be a hybrid, it's over.

[@ruturaj47]

Mazda should move everything to hybrid except Miata.

[@JTelesco]

I hope not, the ev phase is shit

[@TwoDollarGararge]

@ruturaj47 Apparently the new RX Car is gonna be some rotary hybrid thing. It looks decent but meh give me na manual high revving master piece It's basically over and has been slowly coming to an end for about 20 years. Starting with electronic power steering and everything becoming large wide fat and heavy most "sports cars" are more like a gt that can do track day stuff

[@-Cold-World]

How the F this looks like a AE86 you're tripping

[@Bobthebuilder42069]

Cause they stop producing them in 2026 😢

[@JTelesco]

Where’d you hear this? 🤔

[@dre32pitt]

I just test drove a 2024 GR86 and compared to my current car (2016 Miata Club w/BBS+Brembo+sway bars), it's nowhere near as sharp.. I was actually disappointed as I was on a waiting list for one a couple of years ago, but ended up getting something different (not the miata).. I never got a chance to test drive one until a couple of days ago and yea, not as good as I was hoping.. The shifter is quite poor for it going straight into the gearbox.. my STI had better shift feel.. and the clutch.. the clutch is totally lifeless.. it's an on/off switch with no indicating that the clutch is grabbing, other than the car is moving lol.. Brakes weren't up to my liking (the car only had 6 miles, so that could've been the reason.. pad material hasn't fully bedded yet).. Just too many things that would require attention for a $33k~ car.. If you can only have one car, the GR86 is a good compromise vehicle for around $30k.. If you can have two cars or more.. I'll always say go Miata and a daily/beater (i have a Fiesta ST as my 'daily').. The miata is a much more focused and pure driving experience as the platform was created from the get go to be a sports roadster, unlike the BRZ/GR86 which is based on the Impreza chassis, so it had to make compromises.. The cool part is both my Miata and FiST cost me less than a new gr86 lol.. I'm not saying it's a bad car.. it's just not the right car for me, at that price, at this time.. I'd add one later one for like $10-15k, but who knows if that'll be the price once EVs are the only new cars you can buy.. all these 'enthusiast cars' will go up in value.. some will skyrocket.. Which is why I have an ND1 Miata (prefer the low end torque compared to the higher revving ND2) and a Fiesta ST.. both are great cars to drive and super easy to maintain and fairly inexpensive to run.. and the smiles per gallon/$$ add up..

[@Dragon228833]

I feel like you didnt like the car because youre comparing a performance pack miata with a non performance pack 86. Base to base, the 86 is the sharper car but a miata with the best of the best brakes and suspension upgrades will of course be leaps and bounds better than the standard 86. The performance pack is only on the trueno edition sadly but will be available for all 86’s later down the line

[@dre32pitt]

@@Dragon228833 'leaps and bounds' is a bit much, lol.. And my main complaint, the clutch, is the same on either variant.. And the stock bilsteins on the club aren't anything to write home about.. just standard OTS dampers (B6's iirc).. the body roll was so much, which is why i did the swaybar upgrade.. For me to give up my two car setup, the car would have to really blow me away (like the first time i drove an ND1 base model) and it didn't.. The only thing that really impressed me was the low end torque (peak is 3800rpm iirc).. that makes for a much more fun drive around town, but that lackluster clutch feel (yes, you can remove the spring/adjust it and what have you, but even then it's nowhere near as good as the miata's.. my friend had a 14 for the last 8 years and tracked it regularly and never could get the clutch the way he wanted it) And I didnt just arbitrarily just comapre the gr86 to a miata.. i compared it to a car I own, which is what most people are goign to do.... You make it sound like im a reviewer who's just bench comparing these vehicles, lol..

[@Dragon228833]

@@dre32pitt yea the clutch is the number 1 complaint about the car i can definitely see how you aren’t really blown away by the car, especially since its a lateral step from your current car. I kinda treated your comment like you were a reviewer since you wrote a whole essay that was even broken down into paragraphs 😂😂😂. I have a 2022 86 and its much sharper than my na6 but i miss my miata every day (rotting away in my parents back yard and hasnt run for 4 years)

[@dre32pitt]

@@Dragon228833 Haha, i feel you.. Im just a car guy who's driven/owned a bunch of cars and likes new driving experiences.. but the older I get the more Im honing in on what I really enjoy from driving.. Working my arms and working my hands, so steering, shifter, and pedal box feel are paramount to me.. Sound and looks come in second/third.. I had a 987.1 Cayman S before the miata and FiST.. That Cayman is the best handling car i've ever driven.. mid-engine layout is superior for agility.. While I loved the car, it was expensive to modify, lol.. I sold it to my good buddy (I have right of first refusal should he want to part with it).. BUT, it taught me what I want/need from driving.. And, like usual, Miata was the answer.. Distilled down, it's the same driving experience with subtle differences.. Steering feel on anything after 2012 is basically non-existent compared to that Cayman.. Always knew what hte front was up to.. even in the wet.. you get a TON of texture feel of the road through the wheel.. So, im enjoying the way I like to drive (back roads mainly), but in a more reasonable package.. My Cayman was cheaper than a new GR86 as well, lol.. And it's a good one as the PCA VP of this region owned it for 10 years and serviced it at the same Porsche shop, so I had all the records.. No IMS issues (higher mileage cars generally wont have IMS issues.. woulda happened by then) and no tell-tale signs of borescoring (he sent an oil sample to Blackstone and they confirmed, no cylinder lining materials in the oil).. So my plan going forward is to 'collect' cars as I go.. trying to stay around 10-15k.. like i did with my ND1 and FiST.. Probably 370z or high mileage Evo X will be next.. Some of the cars I've owned (all manual).. MS3 MS6 Mk7.5 GTI Mk3 GTI VR6 98 Mustang GT 18 STI Type RA 21 Civic Type R 16 Fiesta ST E39 M5 92 Civic Hatch 85 Prelude Si 79 Chevy Scottsdale 14 Focus ST 07 Cayman S 18 Challenger ScatPack 16 Miata Club (current) 17 Fiesta ST (current) Edit: And you should definitely rescue your na6! It'll be sought after in about 15-20 years.. even as a frame lol. And yes.. paragraphs just make it easier for folks to read.. reading a wall of text is painful lol

[@harris7963]

Miata is too small for a good number of people…also feels too exposed/unsafe driving on the freeway…

[@afellowinnewengland6142]

I always make it a point to never subscribe and like any channel where I'm asked to subscribe and like- especially when they ask me before the content has even started. That's like asking me to write a good review for a restaurant I've never eaten at. As for the video content- I can't really agree with this car holding value and being a future collectible. It's considered relatively slow, noisy and doesn't possess any interesting quirks or special design attributes- nor is it part of any significant pop culture. It's just an entry-level sporty car that will eventually fade from the public conscious...I mean, in 25 years what will you be trying to re-live by getting one? Not saying it's not a good little car for the money, but there's absolutely nothing special about it.

[@Rob165x]

It’s about the chassis balance, the weight, and it being a RWD manual with an LSD. Your argument is very hollow, and kinda basic-B thinking. Nobody who buys this car cares about it being fast in a straight line, or “quirks” or “mainstream appeal” or tech or even the damn noise. It’s a true driver’s car, less luxury and safety the better, what matters is how it drives so you have no idea wtf you’re talking about.

[@JTelesco]

Everybody’s a critic

[@afellowinnewengland6142]

@@Rob165x I'm not sure what your comments have to do with my comments. I spoke to the long term collectibility of the vehicle 25 years from now. I mentioned nothing about why people currently buy it.

[@khayon4364]

"Fade from public consciousness" will it though? That sounds like nonsense. The 86 Platform (across the board) is talked about in every racing/track attack/autocross group I have ever attended, seen, or spoken with people from. I think that is a gross underestimation of the Twins themselves. Whenever someone says "Miata" the *only* REAL competitor to the Miata IS... IN FACT, the Twins.

[@afellowinnewengland6142]

@@khayon4364 Racing/track/autocross groups don't set the market or prices on cars down the road. They're a small niche group in this day and age. To have collectibility and demand down the road a vehicle needs to be two or more of the following: -Rare, low volume or simply have demand outstrip supply. -Possess unique, progressive or unconventional attributes in terms of design or function -Be a cultural touchstone or be famous as a hero vehicle in a movie, tv show, etc. -Be a vehicle too ahead of its own time for success -Be a platform for a new trend (think 32 Fords turned into modern hot rods). The BRZ/GR 86 are common, inexpensive, possess no unique or unconventional engineering, do not use a dedicated powertrain, have inexpensive interiors, and in 25 years will make even an entry-level vehicle seem like a rocket ship... Given that it doesn't even have the novelty of being a convertible- demand and interest will be low. I'm speaking from a half century in automotive. You can get upset about it but facts are facts.