Why you should consider a used Tesla model S vs Model 3

[@DrewsReviews2023]

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[@TheAKFlame]

Now's the time everyone. I got a 2018 Model S 100D 80k miles with full self driving and lifetime connectivity for $32,000!

[@anthonyemmm]

I didn’t even consider a used model S before this video. A few of my friends have the model Y and 3. They all gave mixed reviews. The tech is cool, build quality has some issues but overall they all like there choices. For me what stood out the most was the basic aesthetics of the interior of the 3 and Y. Both of these models were not impressive at all. It was seats, steering wheel and a screen. I was like, that’s it, how much was this car??? For that amount of money I would expect more luxuries. It looks like the model S is the way to go.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

@anthonyemmm they are all fun cars, just depends on what you are looking for. I agree - I like the interior of the s more.

[@lbtobl83]

Me too. 70k miles 75D with EAP and dealer warranty 32k, premium connectivity and multipattern seats that a tually breathe. 6 months ago. Screw Model 3, MS is so much better looking and rides better. Air suspension FTW.

[@victorespino5650]

Thinking of getting the same car

[@slutrooster]

Way too many miles hence the deal

[@ConsultingjoeOnline]

Exactly why I just bought my 2017 Model S P100D with 80k miles. Got it for $33,900 but about $42,000 after taxes, 3yr warranty and other bs. I love it so far. Great video, thanks.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

P100D was my hope when I bought mine, but wasn’t in my budget. Enjoy!

[@Idontknow819918]

Model 3 may be slightly smaller, but I would take a newer battery over anything else considering its the battery thats the most critical+expensive component in these cars. Nice review!!

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Thanks for the input. Glad you enjoy the model 3. They are a lot of fun.

[@Fergunator]

I think the model 3/y battery warranty is 100k miles while the model s is 150k miles

[@anydaynow01]

Wish Tesla offered certified used older models for lease or fore sale with a longer bumper to bumper extended warranty since the current ones are pretty short. I mean there's almost nothing that can go wrong with them and barely any maintenance since they are so simple compared to a pure ICE car. I would definitely pick up an X or S if that were the case.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

@Fergunator on mine the warranty is unlimited miles or 8 years.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

You can add an extended warranty to a used Tesla. I have a video covering cost and coverage.

[@nidog]

Great 1st video. Right to the point. Covered all the questions without tangents. Well done

[@DrewsReviews2023]

I appreciate the kind words, it still felt too long, but I wanted to cover those points. Thanks for the comment!

[@djdesigns81]

Just brought a model 3 LR 2020. Was considering the model S option but I really wanted the extra range over the visual aesthetic. I love the design of the S though. Great vid.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Thanks for the comment. The LR has noticeably more range and is a ton of fun too. I bet your loving it.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

I personally have not had any major issues. I did a video on my 1 year cost of ownership if you wanted to see the details.

[@ictpilot]

I always liked the portrait layout on the model S instead of landscape plus the driver side gauges.

[@TexasTSLA]

I see what you’re saying but as a 2013 Model S owner just because you buy a Model S for 30k doesn’t mean it comes with your normal/average $30k car maintenance. Sticker price of mine was $95k and I can tell when it comes to maintenance. Despite buying it for $30k/50k miles one owner, I spent over $20k first 3 years of owning. Broken control arms, wheel fell off, full air suspension work, door handle stuck, 12v battery replaced, infotainment upgrade, tires, etc

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Sorry to hear you had those challenges. I believe there is data that shows 2015 and older were more prone to those issues due to being some of the first models. That said, buying used regardless of model will always have these possibilities. Thanks for the comment I think it’s a valid point/ topic to insert.

[@paullee9982]

Does Tesla offer a CPO warranty?

[@DrewsReviews2023]

@paullee9982 to my knowledge they do not. But you can buy some from outside vendors

[@TheCostofAutism]

One other point to consider. Slow charging saves your battery, so even though you have free super charging, you should still do most of your charging at home. If you're driving less than 40 miles a day, I would even consider charging daily at 110v (7kw). Here in Florida, FPL will give you one of their chargers and you can charge your car unlimited overnight for just $31.00 a month, practically free. Even if they have to install a 220v outlet, it's only 7 bucks a month more, nothing up front.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Good note, I am actually discussing this in the next two videos when I go over my electric cost. I also live in Florida and have that option for the flat fee, but I don’t tap into it.

[@TheCostofAutism]

@@DrewsReviews2023 I have a neighbor with a Tesla, she says her bill only went up around $30 bucks a month so no reason for it. Me? I drive between 200-300 miles a day so it's a no brainer for me.

[@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403]

While we've all been told that slow charging is better for the battery, Tesla themselves just recently came out with an extensive study showing that there's no difference in battery degradation between level 2 and level 3 charging stations. Now, were they only testing LFP batteries? Because I actually find their results surprising. Anyway, just wanted to mention that.

[@mattsarac9920]

wow I didn't know FPL gives that for $31. thank you! I have Tesla. I put already a walcharger but unlimited for $31 i will check.

[@rsmith02]

How many Kwh do you use a month for charging? I'm not sure you come out ahead at $31/month at normal retail electricity prices (far less than inflated commercial charging prices). Tesla also has an adapter you can just use for trickle charging it.

[@jamesburns2753]

not having to pay to charge and only having to sit and wait for an extra 10 minutes compared to a model 3 sounds like a win to me.

[@TheJSands]

I appreciate you sharing this because I was stuck looking at which model 3 to get and couldn’t decide especially when it comes primarily with the battery type & range but NEVER looked into the Model S until now and didn’t know the 2017 models got the option of free super charging.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Glad I was able to help!

[@joser6948]

IMO the problem with this is that regardless of the mileage, you bought a car with 7 year old batteries in it. Batteries don't just degrade with mileage and charge cycles, they also age with time. If you instead bought a 4-6 year newer model 3, you would get a newer battery pack that, assuming equal usage, should survive 4-6 years longer, perhaps even more due to battery manufacturing improvements.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Solid point. That is absolutely a possible outcome however Tesla has been around long enough to have a strong degree of certainty that battery failures are rare. In addition to total failures being rare Tesla put out a study that even after 200,000 miles of usage the battery degregation is just 12%. This is why you hear so many stories of teslas with 200,000 miles and even recently there is a Tesla with 1 million miles. For me I am less focused on that as I only intend to keep this car for a few years and then on to the next toy. I doubt I will even see 120,000 miles. Either way good point and I appreciate the thoughts.

[@HermanWillems]

And they are OLD tech batteries. Newer batteries are less likely to fail. And if you move to LFP batteries, they will last at LEAST 3x longer than NCM / NCA batteries typical seen in the Model S. If the battery fails on an old especially pre-2016 models (before facelift) you gonna pay a lot. After 2016 the battery quality in the Model S is fastly improved. But yeah i get it, the Model S is a lot nicer than the 3. And just drives better. :) But i do believe that the total cost of ownership for the Model 3 and Y with LFP battery is the lowest of all. In the end you gonna pay for that luxury of the Model S which could include a new battery.

[@TravellLove]

@@DrewsReviews2023 12% is a lot!

[@DrewsReviews2023]

For 200,000 miles I felt it is fair. That would mean your typical 250 mile range would only have dropped down by 30 miles of range.

[@Khanfuzed1]

Yeah man and 7 year old computer tech is just worse im sorry, but for the same dollars the new 3 is a better car

[@BruceGoren]

Been toying with the exact same purchase idea. Thanks for confirming my assumptions.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Glad the video was helpful!

[@kpboix99]

Good purchase, that free supercharging comes in clutch. With the recent depreciation on the used Tesla market, the model S plaids are about 50% off. I remember seeing them brand new for $140,000 and now you can pick one up with about 20,000 miles on it for $70,000. That is a lot of performance for a car in that price range.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Yes I agree a used plaid right now feels like a steal of a deal!

[@777trader8]

I've been thinking of the same comparison. An older model S or a new model 3? After much thought I figured the new model 3 because it would be under full warranty which probably makes it a much better deal. The repairs on Teslas are very expensive and the older model S has nothing covered or won't have coverage for very long. They are notorious for many parts failing. The motors, the battery, the door handles, the suspension, etc. I love the way the model S looks but apparently the older ones aren't built very well compared to the newer Model Y and 3. If you add up the free super charging over the next 10 years VS. all the repairs you'll be doing I don't think you're saving anything and you'll have a lot of headaches. I'd probably buy the GM Silverado EV before I buy a Model 3. I like the functionality of it. It's basically a mobile power station which is something no Tesla can do. Teslas are cool but all they do is get you from point A to point B.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

I like the look of the Silverado ev too. Also the lightning is cool! I’ll be sure to keep the channel updated on repairs.

[@777trader8]

@@DrewsReviews2023 Cool, thanks. Will be looking forward to the repair costs. And can you let us know the insurance cost difference between a new 2023 model 3 and your older model S?

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Yes I will be posting that this week.

[@Sully365]

i'm the same about buying used. just so much less loss overall. that initial depreciation is crazy

[@DrewsReviews2023]

It really is crazy how much falls off these cars after just 1 year. Thanks for the comment.

[@MerlinMetals]

Awesome! I wasn’t thinking of a used model s. Just been looking at the model 3s. The model 3 highlander looks nice. Also the battery warranty on the new car being 8 years or 120k miles sounds nice. But man the model S looks better.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Glad I could help you consider other options. The Highlander does look good I agree, but I still prefer the s. I have a video on an extended warranty that may be helpful for you too. It will extend the Tesla warranty by 3 years.

[@MerlinMetals]

@@DrewsReviews2023 thank you! I’ll check that video out.

[@bam111965]

I agree. I love my 2015 P85D. I just recently test drove the new Model 3 and S and I like my older S better (after putting significant work into it). The S is a much better car.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

The p85d was the other car I was eyeballing. Good choice!

[@tonyn3227]

Nice car , no question about it, let's hope your battery will last another 200k miles or more, otherwise, if it goes, forget it.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Thanks for the kind words. Fortunately I don’t plan to keep the car past about 130,000 miles. I plan to keep it for a few years. I will be sure to update if anything breaks.

[@evolv.e]

Proud owner of a red 2014 P85+ with 151,349 miles with a front bumper refresh, infotainment upgrade, and chrome delete. As mentioned in the video, nearly indistinguishable from a 2020/21 model unless one knows what minor differences to look for. Our app’s charge stats show we Supercharged 95% of the past 12 months, with 4% at other, and 1% home. (we live just a couple miles from a Supercharging station, so we take advantage of free charging more often as a result). While many might connect that Supercharging so frequently may degrade the battery faster, our S still has 90% of its original capacity, which coincidentally is about the max range of a brand new 75kWh Model S. Knowing that most Tesla’s lose about 10% of their capacity initially in the first 50-75k miles before stabilizing and retaining about 90% until about 180-200k, I recommend buying an 85kWh instead of a 75kWh S when available in the same price range when buying used, to compensate for expected degradation that will naturally occur anyways. It’s important to mention that the miles remaining displayed can be set to either “ideal” or “rated”. I recommend selecting rated to get a far more accurate understanding of remaining capacity when buying used. One could charge to 100% to verify, but is simple to select % in settings, note the rated range, and extrapolate what the rated range would be at 100%. ie. The rated miles for my car at 50% shows 119 miles remaining, double that for 238 miles. I then compare that range to the EPA rated range for that year/model’s capacity. In my case 265 miles was the EPA rated range when new, so 238 reflects a 10% degradation, which is in line with the majority of other used Tesla’s with similar miles driven. Just to be sure, I charged it to 100%, and sure enough, 238 rated miles were displayed. Again, be sure to select rated, not ideal, as that shows a higher range if driven in ideal conditions, but unhelpful when determining present battery degradation. For some, the 10-12% difference in range between a 75 or 85 kWh isn’t a factor as they may not be driving more than 200 miles between charges anyways. Though, having more capacity never hurts and takes a little less time to charge to the same range due to charge curve advantages. I share this as I find many people shying away from the 2013, 2014, and 2015 models due to usually having higher miles, but as long as they are of the 85kWh variety (the highest available at the time), most should still have more than sufficient range for most drivers. All said, there are certain advantages of Model 3’s, some of which mentioned in the video. I for one, prefer a used Model S for a similar or often a lower price, and bought our low mileage 3.5 year old Performance S for just $41,500 +ttl after applicable rebates. And being a “+” model, it came with practically every option available at the time: • air suspension • premium sound • power lift gate • Performance suspension • 21” staggered wheels • carbon fiber package • carbon fiber spoiler • red brembo brake calipers • panoramic sunroof roof • Napa leather • dual 40A onboard chargers • premium lighting • aluminum pedals • removable roof rack • front trunk luggage • Performance inverter • tire inflation repair kit and as a bonus came with stop valid HOV lane stickers. .. but most importantly, unlimited lifetime Supercharging, which saves us the equivalent of $4911 a year in gas alone according to our app, based on 16,660 miles driven annually and kWh added for free. Multiply that by 9 years, and that equates to $44,191 saved.. more than we paid for the car. Yes, the car has already paid for itself in what was not spent on gas alone in a similar petrol vehicle for the same miles driven. Of course, for those with ample solar panels on their roof and battery storage, charging at home may very well be quite inexpensive as well. I think that the 2012-early 2016 models that have unlimited supercharging grandfathered are sometimes overlooked for their sheer value mostly because of an easily replaceable nosecone, age, or mileage, but given that they are visually nearly indistinguishable from a recent build (especially after a front bumper refresh), get free OTA updates (which add most of the new features of current models, minus autopilot/FSD), and have the option for an infotainment upgrade for a faster CPU and higher res front screen, and a chrome delete is rather simple, it’s not hard to own a Model S that looks and performs so similarly to a new one, or at least to the non-Tesla enthusiast. It’s hard *not* to consider one, especially at half to one third the price of new.. and about the same as a Model 3.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Wonderfully written and well said. I appreciate you taking the time to add such color to the conversation. The updated front nose cone is game changer on those models! Looks so good!

[@jmattos]

Good tip! I got my model 3 used, and I've been really happy with it.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Heck yes. Glad you found one you liked. I am so curious to see what the new model 3 looks like.

[@egs2169]

Good review. I’ve been considering a model 3 or s. I think the battery life / warranty is the biggest differential and it would have been nice to hear you touch base on that.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Thanks for the feedback I may speak to this in a future video as it does come up often.

[@matty1614]

yeah, thats like one of the biggest differences... and a very important hting to consider

[@DrewsReviews2023]

My warranty on both battery and motors expires at the end of next year.

[@JackoBanon1]

I heard about some Tesla Model S that hit 1 million miles but had the 4th battery inside them already. So yeah, the battery won't last forever. But compared to the service costs you have with a gasoline car the cost is rather less.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

@@JackoBanon1 Yes, Ryan Shaw made a video about the million mile tesla. I think it had 4 motor replacements but only 2 batteries or something like that. Pretty impressive!

[@xyzxyz6406]

I love my model S way better than a 3. I'm 6'7 and the S has way more leg room, I love having 2 modules instead of just the one screen in the model 3. I really like the portrait setup as opposed to the landscape one in the model 3 and the fact that it's built into the dash instead of looking like someone bolted an iPad to my dash 🤣. I also prefer the look of the S. Model 3's are everywhere here in Cali so the S stands out way more than the 3 or Y and the S has a lot more room/cargo space than the 3..

[@DrewsReviews2023]

For some reason I like the portrait setup too. It just feels more integrated. The new ones are still very cool though. Especially with the yoke steering wheel.

[@nakkadu]

All valid opinions, the only one I disagree with is the portrait mode, landscape is more versatile. If you want to watch TV in your car landscape is far superior.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Good point on watching tv. I only watch tv in the car on long road trips while charging.

[@nakkadu]

@@DrewsReviews2023 same here, I hardly ever do it but I do feel smug when I'm watching Netflix while it's charging 😄

[@xyzxyz6406]

@@DrewsReviews2023 The portrait screen is actually safer because looking at a landscape screen while driving takes your eyes further away from the road and limits what your peripheral vision can see. I would like the yoke also if the horn wasn't a little button you had to press. Seems a bit unsafe to me in an emergency with only a split second to use it especially if turning.

[@SukMelon]

I would highly advise against any Tesla pre 2019, if you look at Tesla from a business perspective this is right after they first became profitable. Not saying Tesla's weren't great before but the all around quality and improvements each year are better and better. A used 2019 model 3 with FSD is the best bang for the buck IMO. Great video

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Thanks for watching and I appreciate the perspective!

[@ProTeslaVolt]

Both cars are really good options, especially with current prices

[@DrewsReviews2023]

I agree they are both wonderful cars!

[@jamesgarrison7397]

I bought a new Model 3 for just a little more than that Model S. The biggest selling point for me was the Lithium-Iron Phosphate battery and the full warranty. Those for me, were huge.

[@bigbtechproductions]

love the review! I have a 2015 Tesla Model S, bought it this year and I love it!

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Thanks man! I rented a 2015 on turo when I was thinking about buying a Tesla and that is what got me hooked! Thanks for watching. Excited to make more vids.

[@HermanWillems]

Why? Because it became a lot cheaper because the battery is out of warranty?

[@financialsombrero9097]

Thanks Drew, looking to make a decision on a 2019 model S 75D in the morning. This vid is helping...

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Glad you found it helpful! Good luck on your purchase!

[@financialsombrero9097]

@@DrewsReviews2023 mission accomplished - 2019 Tesla model S 75D.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

@financialsombrero9097 woop woop!!! Congrats my friend. Hope you enjoy it.

[@girlstarstv5241]

@@financialsombrero9097 how have you been enjoying it?

[@gust9464]

I have both cars. I would say the M3 performance is the better option. Hands down!

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Great insight. Thanks for sharing.

[@76ers]

“M3” is a BMW

[@gust9464]

@@76ers lol 😂 this is a Tesla video, M3 is Model 3. I have am M4 BMW definitely know the difference 👍🏽

[@76ers]

@@gust9464 I know it's a Tesla video. I just hate when people try to abbreviate everything because they're too lazy to type. I'm sure you write Model S as "MS" also.

[@ghost_m3p]

@@76ers I have an M3 P-

[@coffeeman2079]

I was one of those years ago saying I’m buying a Tesla S when it came out. I test drove two but couldn’t part with that much cash, having only bought second hand cars in the past, usually at 15k miles or so. However, after 6 years with my very good Mercedes 220d AMG estate I’m now looking at early Model S cars with 100k miles that look fab. I’m going to double up for a while and run both.

[@Mark1Mach2]

What a nice informative video. Would love to get a used model X but those seem above and beyond my budget. Yet this is so useful for folks who want a sedan to get a model S over a 3. Model S seems like so much more of a car then model 3.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Yeah I have been eyeballing the x for my wife.

[@agunjal]

Thank you! I have had a MY for 3 years now. I came from a Lexus and I cant get past the bumpy and creaky ride - My daughter is getting her license and was going to buy her a used 3....but with the MS prices right now, I will give her mine and get an S. I saw so many videos complaining on how slow the charging is! but this clears it up

[@shwndh]

Nice video and nice looking S. I did not know they did the new bumper without the side cameras for the 2016 models. I got a 2015 and went through the same decision process. The plain interior and smaller size was a deal breaker for my wife. Love the classic styling on the S. Charging has been slowed down for these older cars but that doesn't bother us for the way we are using the car. And I say the same thing, free supercharging is a BIG DEAL when it comes to road trips. We pay nothing! The huge hatch space in the rear is actually wider and longer than my Mercedes ML350 SUV. I was able to carry 4 full Model S wheels with tires in the car with the hatch closed. I couldn't do that in my truck. So it really has the utility of a small SUV. The biggest risk is when the battery goes out of warranty and you have a failure. Pretty expensive but there are places like 057 that will give you an aftermarket warranty and I believe there will be aftermarket offerings that will come down in price eventually. I actually want to buy a 2nd Model S.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Thanks! Yes, I believe mine was right as they did the mid year bumper refresh.

[@bonbooty6611]

Independent shops can also diagnose and replace bad cells without having to get a whole new pack offering a huge saving

[@DrewsReviews2023]

That is good to know. Thanks for sharing.

[@shwndh]

@@bonbooty6611 That is still up for debate. Some say those repairs don't last long but I agree that it's theoretically possible to do. I think it's just a matter of knowing how to do it properly. There are a few issues to overcome like balancing the new cells with the old ones to avoid imbalances, not upsetting the connections, and not allowing moisture to enter after repair.

[@masonbandhauer6343]

I know this is 8 months later but if you ever get the chance to answer this that would be sick. Do you actually get free supercharging? if so how do you know what tesla model S's do get it or not?

[@marcusmartin5268]

I have a 2014 now with 112k and I love it. It's hotter, it's faster, it's bigger, it has more storage and model 3 people compliment it all the time. Plus free super charging

[@DrewsReviews2023]

That’s great! I love mine too

[@pierreroberge4927]

Great video. I am considering a used Model S too. I am a bit concerned about replacing the battery though which would cost a pretty penny.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Understandable concern. The research supports the vast majority of batteries lasting 200-300k miles. But everyone has to do what is best for them. I will be making a video to share a deeper dive on what older teslas can and can’t do vs a newer one. That comparison may also be helpful.

[@ralphabel9717]

Awesome video!! Thank you for answering all the question I had in one simple video!!

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Glad it was helpful

[@BFTVCanada]

I also choose an older Model S over the 3 for many reasons. Such an amazing car and so functional. Also the free suoer charging is huge for me.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Totally agree! Thanks for sharing.

[@prsbm]

So is the free supercharging still transferible? I was told at a dealer it wasn't 🤔

[@DrewsReviews2023]

@prsbm the 2016 models transfer for the life of the car in all instances I have seen. In 2017 is when I believe they started to phase out to non transferable

[@prsbm]

@@DrewsReviews2023 what about 2014? That's the one in buying.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Yes 2014 should be fine

[@Karlkn]

Well done Drew! Just today I have kind of switched my focus from a new Y Performance to a 2020-21 Model S. So good looking🥳

[@DrewsReviews2023]

The model y is still fun. The main plus to the model y is getting in and out of the car. The model s is low!

[@edwardbargiel1428]

Gotta say great job for a newer channel. I’m also debating between the 2 but the more I research the more it looks like the s is the better deal.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Thanks man, I appreciate the kind words. The S is a blast. Let me know if there is anything else I can cover that would be helpful.

[@raheemrichardson]

Thanks bro! I was literally considering a pre-owned S vs Telsa 3

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Glad I was able to give some perspective. Thanks for taking the time to watch.

[@shellyu1442]

I love my 2018 MS 75D but the only issue Inhave with it is the range and charging time. Which isn’t a huge deal unless I go on road trips and it’s even harder with a 2 year old but other than that… best car I’ve ever owned at 7 months later. I’m still excited to get into the car every time 😊

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Range has not bothered me much, but I don't go on trips over 3 hours all that often. Good input. Thanks for adding to the conversation.

[@BryceLovesTech]

My Model S is a 2013 with 160,000 miles on the original battery and I drive 120 miles a day, don’t be scared of a older Tesla

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Great insight. Thanks for sharing.

[@stridencesuppressor]

I have a September 2017 MS 75 RWD, CCS enabled with FSD HW 3.0, MCU2. You forgot to mention that besides free super charging they also came with free premium connectivity. My battery has only degraded 6 miles.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Good point! They free connectivity is pretty nice. Thanks for adding that to the conversation.

[@matthewkendall8544]

This is just the kind of car I want. Used Model S seems like the way to go.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

They are a ton of fun.

[@CaseyHardman]

As someone who is looking to possibly sell my 2014 Focus ST for an AWD Model 3 or Model Y, your comment about the firm seat might be the reason I go with a used Model S instead. I LOVE the full leather bucket-style seats in my ST3. Ideally I wish I could just take my ST (or preferably the RS), replace the engine and drivetrain with a Tesla battery and motors, and I'd be the happiest dude alive. lol

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Ha that would be sick! I would suggest renting one on turo in your area. I rented a Tesla model s, y and 3 before making my purchase decision. Some will rent for as little as 100 bucks a day.

[@ghost_m3p]

Do not listen to this man, if you drive a focus st (I also have my cobalt SS turbo along with my performance 3) I HIGHLY recommend that you do not take this mans advice and get a performance 3. They have a huge aftermarket community and if you like modding your car, you cannot do much to the S.. on top of this, the older S charge slower, have less features, and the build quality is terrible on them. Trust me, get a performance 3 and you will not be disappointed… even if you get a 2018, you can upgrade the computer to hardware 3.0 and get all of the FSD features.. you cannot do this to a model S. You cant even get aftermarket tail lights for the model S..

[@sleepy_ipl]

I've driven a P85D & P90D for work and have plenty of seat time behind the Model 3 and Y. I prefer model 3 the most, and like the model s the least. The model S is big and boaty feeling. It doesn't feel sporty and agile (no surprise since it weighs 5000 lbs). The air suspension is nice, and you can raise the vehicle to clear certain road conditions. Also, the technology and interior styling in model S is outdated (been the same since 2012) unless it's the newer 2021+ refresh models.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Thanks for sharing. Wish I had a job where I could drive teslas for work! :)

[@HermanWillems]

You better do some test driving, instead of some online reading. Drive them all.

[@kirbyclem4]

A couple of months ago, I purchased a Pre-ap model s, p85, for 24k. First thing I did was purchase comma 3 & additional connectors from Tinkla, about $1.6k. This gave me full longitudinal, lateral autopilot. Then, last month I purchased the front fashcia refresh (2k) to give me the new model S front bumper. Now effectively my car operates more similarly to the new model S. Ie: fsd “like” autopilot, traffic visualization on instrument cluster via the tinkla buddy (I’m on MCU2). And I have free supercharging. Current battery degradation is a little over 10% and I get roughly 240 miles of range per full charge. (I have lead battery that I believe you can charge to 100% without degrading the battery quicker.) Will have bumper installed by next month hopefully.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

I was not familiar with Comma 3 - I have some googling to do it sounds interesting. That bumper is going to look great. Congrats on the Tesla and thanks for adding to the conversation. Good insight for those considering.

[@rickgauden]

how is the car doing?

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Are you asking me or the guy with the p85?

[@TraderAlamotv]

thats exactly what I wanted to know... how to get the traffic visualization in older cars

[@icemanx90]

You forgot to mention a MASSIVE Pro for the Model S over the Model 3, the Adaptive Air Suspension. Not only is the suspension in the Model S more smooth but it can remember the location where you needed more ground clearance and automatically adjust the height for you.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Great addition to the conversation. Thanks for sharing.

[@billblonco]

7 year old air suspension? I see problems coming with the airbags in the near future

[@Daniel.alvestrand]

I got mine today, 2015 Model S P85D 139k miles. self driving and free supercharge $18,598

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Woop woop! Congrats!

[@YoungatHeartAdventures]

Great video thank you this is very timely as we are looking at a 2017 s 75d right now with FSD. How can I tell if it qualifies for free supercharging? Is there something on the display indicating this ?

[@DrewsReviews2023]

The easiest way I was able to figure out was click on the charging tab in the center display. It will show what the last charging session cost. If it’s anything other than 0 it should have free supercharging. Keep in mind towards the end of 2017 they stopped allowing the supercharging to transfer. When the dealer is given control of the tesla(which they should have) they can login to their Tesla app and select the specs and warranty tab at the bottom of the app. It will clearly list free unlimited supercharging if so.

[@olegdemchukov]

I think so ! I bought model S 100d 2017 , 47 k miles and I happy

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Nice!

[@melodicprogressivehousemph6429]

This video hits all the pointers I have thinking about. Interested in a secondhand Tesla and prefer the Model S than the Model 3 because of the long wheel base, sleeker looks, and the big infotainment layout. The only drawback is the outside cameras being not available but really leaning towards the older Model S. Thanks for sharing and will follow you.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Glad you found the video helpful. The only piece I would recommend upgrading on a model s is the mcu if it hasn’t already been upgraded.

[@melodicprogressivehousemph6429]

@@DrewsReviews2023 Thanks mate.

[@nicholasbrown982]

Bro do you think the cameras can be upgraded tooo if it it’s an old model with no cameras

[@DrewsReviews2023]

I asked the service center and they were not able to upgrade my cameras.

[@mariquesalexander5190]

You can buy camera to add to it

[@Andersljungberg]

You have the option of upgrading the hardware in the Infotainment system. I also think you can upgrade the autopilot. Of course, it costs money

[@deucedaprodeuca]

After 4 months of this 2022 Model 3, I'd much rather have a used model S. I'd rather have the Ionic 5 or 6 actually.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Really? What are you not enjoying about the model 3?

[@deucedaprodeuca]

@@DrewsReviews2023 The quality. New paint chips every other day. New scratches every time it gets washed. Bad panel gaps. Backwards for handles that you need fingers and thumb to open. If you have anything in your hand, out it down. Sit that coffee on the glass roof and now you have to clean off a ring, or suffer scratching around the door handle area. Backwards navigation screen. Maps are on THE WRONG SIDE. Voice input only works when there's total silence. Bad insulation. You can hear EVERYTHING outside. Sounds like Windows are always cracked open. I can't maneuver the vehicle without the car tearing me like a kid, reminding me that my seatbelt isn't on by throwing a hissy fit. Can't move it with the drunk/trunk open without it constantly reminding you that to have no control of your vehicle. Maps will put you in the far right lane in a quarter mile when you should be in the far left... I can't quickly adjust my mirrors to shine the light back in their face when the asshole behind me had his brightness on... Phantom braking... Almost killed us... When I do use the voice input, instead of turning navigation volume to level 5, it turns out off.. that stupid animation that takes 4 seconds to stop reading you every time you slightly miss the drink or trunk... I would gladly pay a $15k premium on the Ionic 5/6 over this crap. Just from the first time I grabbed the PERFECTLY DESIGNED for handle of the Ionic 6, I knew it was far superior in all ways other than storage space over the 3. And it seems I need new rest tired every 10k miles. Let's not talk about range. I've tested it thoroughly. Driving in all flat roads, 73°, I've never gotten over 303 miles. I have the dual motor. I'm supposed to get up to 340 miles. Meanwhile the Chevy Bolt claims 280 Mike range, and that regularly accounts 340 miles. At night, I charge the 3 to 100 or 319 mile range in 75° weather for shiggles, in three morning after I've driven 25 miles, it says I used 45 miles of range. Should I keep going? Let's not talk about having anything in the drunk that stinks and turning on the vent... Yeah, your partners will know you went to the gym earlier that day. My first response was somehow deleted. I copied this one this time.

[@peteroffpist1621]

Our family owns two M S , one M 3 and one M Y. Best model is the Y fastest charging LFP batteries and more comfortable ride and great trunk. Second place Model S that we have owned since 2013 and driven 360.000 km with original batteries and DU. No problems at all with M 3 but too small and too muck road noise.

[@shou635]

AP1 was never meant for FSD.

[@ghost_m3p]

This is a horrible video.. The 75D doesnt come anywhere close to my performance 3. It doesnt have the features, functionality, or the tech🤦🏽‍♂️ He bought the cheapest model S thinking it was better than the 3 or Y 🤦🏽‍♂️ and lets not even talk about the range hes getting 🤦🏽‍♂️ L video

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Thanks for the comment. I didn’t personally want a model 3 because they are a bit smaller than what I wanted. The model 3 is an awesome car. The performance model is even more fun! I’m so excited for you that you could afford the performance model 3. I love the rims on those. I have driven them all, but for me the model s is my favorite.

[@jvausa]

@@ghost_m3pyou sound really offended for no reason.

[@ghost_m3p]

@@jvausa Socially awkward much? I am not a yes man, I am a tesla owner and the OP is giving bad advice. These are tech vehicles and he is telling people to take less tech for a prestige or look... if you want more room, you dont go for an S, you go for a Y or X, thats what theyre built for. The space difference in the S compared to the 3 is negligible at most, they wider on the outside than the inside.

[@jvausa]

@@ghost_m3p yes you sound socially awkward. You are upset for no reason. Being rude and aggressive. You can disagree without being a douche.

[@Andersljungberg]

Another tip is to buy a Tesla S that has had the hardware upgraded to MCU2. Then go things faster on the screen and you get more functions

[@BilalSattar]

There's a LOT of cons to buying an older model S vs a newer model 3.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Hey there. Of course there are a ton of pro and cons to all of life. The good news is that no matter which Tesla you buy they are all fun!

[@BilalSattar]

@@DrewsReviews2023 They're definitely all fun!

[@adamshipley5415]

I don't think you are sloshing from experience. I have a 2017 models s and I think it's holding up WAY better than if I had gone for a newer 3. Plus, fsd changes your life if you commute.

[@BilalSattar]

@@adamshipley5415 I own 3 model S. 2017 2018 and 2023 and a 2019 model 3. I’m speaking from experience.

[@BilalSattar]

@@adamshipley5415 I own 3 model S. 2017, 2018 and 2023 and a 2019 model 3. i’m 100% speaking from experience.

[@smrochin]

I did consider a used p90d/p100d before picking the performance 3. Just couldn't beat the warranty and peace of mind for my first EV.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Totally understandable. I bet you haven’t regret it for one second too. Those are fun!

[@v10mclaren]

Great video. I’m considering the two myself and my heart says Model S because it’s so beautiful. But I’m worried about its reliability vs the 3. Have you had any issues with yours?

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Minor issues. I will likely make a video on the items I have gone to the service center for. When I bought the car the back left door handle went out but this was something the dealership covered. It was $140 repair at the service center. The only other issue I had was when I upgraded the mcu it ended up causing an airbag light issue and it caused a steering wheel volume control issue. Both fixed free of charge. The warranty even for a 2016 for motor and battery goes until September of 2024. So 8 years from build.

[@springroll58]

​@@DrewsReviews2023I didn't know the original battery/motor warranty remains for teslas sold at a dealership, good to know thanks for the video!!

[@scottgaree7667]

We have a 2015 S 85D. With 65k miles it has less than 5% battery degradation. It still drives like new. Recently upgraded the MCU and displays for $1400 and it made a huge difference and added a bunch of new features; to an 8 year old car. Free telematics, free supercharging. Couldn't be happier with it.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

The screen upgrade really is game changer.

[@davidwebster2616]

this is funny because I bought a used 2018 Model S 100d for 35k. Higher mileage at 120k but battery range is 380 at 100%. I understand I won't see 380miles but I just mentioned that for a reference point. I just wanted a long range Tesla with a hatch. I do have enhanced autopilot. White with cream white interior. Loving it. Watching your video, my 2018 is almost the same as your, just different color inside.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

I would love the extra range from a 100d. And the fact you have the ability for fsd is great! The hatchback was a big deal for me as I like to do house projects often and wanted to be able to haul wood and mulch and such.

[@fifthcircle1]

I'd love to see a second part on this regarding the MCU upgrade, FSD, and costs associated with them. Whether that be already on the vehicle, and what we should pay if it is, or if we can add them post purchase. Also, what warranties or extended warranty might be available. The used Tesla is a bit of a confusing purchase for those of us that haven't owned one. I'm looking at replacing my '18 Mustang GT with a model S. It's the fun third car, but I need a runaround kid hauler...that's still fun.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Thanks for the feedback. This is in a lineup of about 10 videos i am making. I do think those are important aspects to talk about. I would make it all in one video but I know it’s easy to get lost spending 6-10 minutes on each topic. Those GTs are beautiful cars.

[@fifthcircle1]

Sweet. Sub'd. 👍🏻

[@Tphay]

😢😢😮6😊

[@TimothyArmstrongamblixVR]

It's a $2500 to go from MCU1 to MCU2, and change out an AP2.5 to HW3.0 FSD. That price includes labor. Then it's $200 for standard FSD which isn't really. It's a package of navigate on autopilot. This being 100% self driving from FWY entrance to exit...no surface streets. Only the FSD beta offers Complete FSD. Which requires an upgrade of the cameras to being color, and a camera installed on the rear view mirror that observes the driver. That fee $750 installed... so to go from an AP 2.5 to legit full self driving is $3250

[@wranglerlife4ever42]

I just test drove a 2019 Model S 100D with 27k miles on it. Dealer has it listed for $39,900. I am 6’4” tall and while I did fit in driver seat, there was almost no room behind my driving position for a rear passenger. The Model S felt out dated and kind of old. It reminded me of a 2000s BMW 5 or 7 series. I liked it, but didn’t love it. Sound system was very very good. Interior space (for me) not so good. No way would I have paid $100,000 for it new. Thats insane.

[@Threetimeguy]

Hey drew great vid! Have you had any issues with the air suspension?

[@dathyr1]

I would never buy a used Tesla model S. Who knows what kind of miles it would have on it. Plus the previous person probably drove it like a mad man with the 150 mpg speeds it can do. No thank you, I will buy a new Tesla, but not a model S. At least I will know it hasn't been raced all over the place.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Hey there. Thanks for the input. I have been recommending people to rent one of each on turo in their area. It gave me the peace of mind to feel comfortable with my purchase. I was able to rent each for as little as 100 dollars a day. Great way to see what you like and don’t like. Either way excited for you and your Tesla purchase you’ll have to share with us which one you buy! I can smell the new car smell already. :)

[@HectorGarcia-nb2ld]

2023 model 3 standard is perfect for the money

[@Darqstorms]

Thank you for the video. Im currently in aircraft maintenance school and when I graduate I want to get a Tesla. Im 6’4 so I wasn’t really considering the model 3 but you make me wonder about getting a used model S. Subbed btw

[@DrewsReviews2023]

While I am sure the model 3 could accommodate your height the model s can too. I saw a very tall man getting into a model 3 the other day in fact. I am 6ft and feel that the s is very roomy. I came from and f150.

[@Darqstorms]

@@DrewsReviews2023 thank you for this ☝🏾

[@MichaelKirven]

@@Darqstorms The Y is easier to get into, but the S has a better ride. Test drive both.

[@Darqstorms]

@@MichaelKirven honestly I was looking at the Y because I don’t think I want to get a car that’s like 80k or higher. Idk too much about getting a used Tesla either. Ik if I do that, i could get an S or X for way cheaper

[@iamalmostanonymous]

Shaq drove a Model S

[@Al-ls1dk]

I traveled for FL 7 weeks ago to buy a ‘15 P85D in ATL. Shipped it home though. So far, so fun

[@DrewsReviews2023]

I bought mine in Atlanta too! For some reason Atlanta has a ton of Teslas of all kinds.

[@danielsondiecastracing]

I'm in the same boat. I'm currently saving for a Tesla and can't decide between an S or 3. There are def pros and cons to both. My hearts with the S but we'll see if the better stats on the 3 win the day or not in the end. Looking to buy by Jan

[@DrewsReviews2023]

If you haven’t watched my video about tips for buying a Tesla my strongest suggestion is to rent both for several days on Turo. That helped me solidify my decision.

[@Techning]

Really interesting decision. I'm planning to buy a used car this year too and so far I'm leaning more to a newer Model 3. I like the shape and the exterior of the Model S a lot more but in the inside it looks so damn aged to me. It gives me the vibes of old Mercedes cars from 2000 or so.

[@The_TermiGator]

I bought my used 2016 Tesla Model S 75 RWD back in December 2022! Since it's summer now, my screen has been leaking glue. I'll get the MCU upgrade done sometime... 1:50 Mine doesn't have free supercharging. 2:40 My main way of discerning whether I'm looking at a legacy Model S is by checking for cameras in the side repeaters and B pillars.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Thanks for the comment, my upgraded mcu doesn’t seem to have the summer heat issue. I assume they resolved that issue on the upgrades. On supercharging, yes I tried to preface that it doesnt apply to all. Good tip on the b pillars. I had not thought to do that.

[@The_TermiGator]

Yes, if you got the MCU upgrade already, you won't have the dripping glue issue because that upgrade involves replacing the screen with a part that does not have the glue and thus handles extreme temperatures properly. Until I finally get my upgrade done, I have to periodically wipe the area below my screen with a paper towel and 70% isopropyl alcohol.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Interesting.

[@Andersljungberg]

The free charge originally applied to Tesla S that were ordered until January 15, 2017. but Tesla has sent out an offer that the free charge can be transferred to a new Tesla and it is about Tesla S about Tesla X and Tesla y . But it will only apply as long as you own the new car. Unfortunately, you must collect the new car no later than the last day of this year

[@grudzien9784]

I agree with you 100%. I have test driven model three and a model S and the model S is the better car. This is why they cost so much more brand new and the 2017 model that I am getting I will make sure that it has the free super charging, which is a huge huge advantage of the model three if you don’t mind driving a used car which I don’t I actually prefer it

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Thanks for the comment! Good luck on your purchase!

[@grudzien9784]

@@DrewsReviews2023 hey bud what is the quickest way to check if the car has a free supercharging? Buying used I will have to go thru a regular dealership vs Tesla. I know they also have used cars on their site but u can find tons of them in my area ( Dallas ) at the local dealers. Is there a way to look that up? Do I need a VIN # ? Plz advise and thank you!!!

[@DrewsReviews2023]

@grudzien9784 I have a short on my channel that shows exactly how. Should be what you need. 👍🏻👍🏻

[@midnight4109]

I have had 2 second hand Model S Teslas and agree with you except that most Tesla owners I have talked to favor one car or the other. I know someone who won a Cadillac in a raffle and immediately sold it for a Chevrolet because that is the car he ideally wanted to drive.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Good point! Thanks for sharing. I personally love the x and a because I enjoy larger vehicles.

[@midnight4109]

@DrewsReviews2023 Lots of Tesla fans agree; the Model X continues to sell.

[@mrche2]

I was going to get a Model Y but opted for a used Model X. Plus it has the USS which were removed from the newer Teslas hampering short distance parking...

[@DrewsReviews2023]

The model x is such a cool car it was just out of my price range at the time, but I plan to buy my wife a used x soon. Thanks for adding to the thoughts.

[@shrichaudhary]

Fueling stops in a gasoline car is more than 10 minutes because you cannot do the bathroom stop and shopping while the car is fueling. On a Tesla or another EV you could plug in the car and then go do your stuff.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

That’s a good point. Although in a pinch I am irresponsible in my wife’s gas car and run inside to hit the bathroom while fueling. Ha

[@DayoAworunse]

As an owner of a 2018 Used Model S because i preferred it over the 3 and Y. I recommend you dont unless its a landscape display in 2021. Havent gotten any of the modern updates in over a year, meaning most update features are only on the 3, Y and refreshed S & X. Styling and looks of the S are superb no doubt, but the car is feature focused and these models lack feature. Also, the lack of a heat pump makes this miserable to drive in the winter since you lose about half your range.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

What updated features are you missing. When I did my comparison video of new vs used features I couldn’t find any difference through OTA updates that I was lacking.

[@DavidLightbourn]

Very curious what you guys think, I bought my wife a brand new model Y 2023 and I’m so in love with it, but that’s all we really need for our family, I was using my commute to work with Smart Car only because I sit in about two hours of traffic at least a day and was tired of idling gas and not being able to park, I work in New York City and live in Long Island… anyway from legitimately falling asleep during traffic over the years, I’ve had one bad accident accident and a couple near straight death misses and I’m just so spoiled with the full self driving so I was considering just getting it used for my work commute it’s not a lot of miles each way, about 25 miles each way, think it’s worth it?

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Just depends on how cheap you are looking to go. I would think anything 15k or less would be too old to have FSD. But if you are willing to spend 25k then seems like a fair plan.

[@PaulYewchuk-k2l]

The trouble is a Tesla Model S rides too low to the ground so you scrape the bottom of the car every time you drive over a bump in the road. The new Tesla Model 3 rides higher above the ground so you don't scrape the bottom of a Tesla Model 3. The Tesla Model 3 also has a longish range battery; not as long range as the Model S but still longish range.

[@incognitotorpedo42]

Model S is amazingly practical. You wouldn't believe the stuff I'm able to haul in mine. I have a 2017, and it is the nicest car I've ever owned. Sometimes I'll just be driving down the street and think to myself "damn, this is a nice car". Older model 3's, on the other hand, are a little rough. I wouldn't have any qualms about a modern Model Y or Highland 3, other than the lack of a hatchback on the 3.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

I agree about the practical car statement for sure. I do a lot of wood working projects and I can fit 2x4x8s in the back with no problem, along with lunch and all sorts of other large items.

[@ksoonsoon]

Thanks for this video. I have actually been considering a used model S but had the opinion that it was too expensive.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

So glad to hear it was able to add some perspective to consider. Whether you get the s or not they are all fun!

[@AniCrazey]

the newer model s doesnt have that long bar thingy that cuts into the lights at the back. thats how i usually know which car is old or new

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Not sure I ever noticed that, I will have to look for that next time I see my buddy with a new s

[@AniCrazey]

@@DrewsReviews2023 i actually noticed it 1 day when i saw 1 drove pass me. u can even check the website and scroll through the images to the one where the back of the car is showing and u will see it

[@glennvastine4118]

I have a white long range 2020 model s also for $35,000. 145,000 miles but runs great. New tires. For anyone interested.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Very cool!

[@tsmall07]

We recently got a 2020 Model S Long Range Plus w/ 20k miles for about what a new model 3 sells for. It's sooooo much more car than the model 3. Best decision. I'm 6'3" and I can finally sit where I want to sit and there's plenty of room for carseats and kids' legs behind me. I also love that it has a screen behind the wheel in the dash. We took our family of 5 (8, 5, and 2) on a 12 hour trip to disney 48 hours after getting the car and it was a great trip. The seat in the model 3 was also extremely uncomfortable for me. Might be a hip width thing, but I couldn't stand the seat for more than 2 hours or so.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

That’s fantastic! On such a long trip do you recall how many times you had to stop and charge? I’ve only ever done 6 hours and had to stop twice.

[@tsmall07]

@@DrewsReviews2023 Only twice on the way down (we charged a bit for free while parked in Savanah and full free charge that night where we stayed on Jekyll Island). 3x I think on the way back. We chose to charge based on what we could do while charging, so I wouldn't say we stopped at the "optimum" locations. One charger we stopped at was in the parking lot of a bowling alley, so we did that while charging. We've always looked for cool places to stop along the way on trips, so EV travel fits our travel style pretty well. I'm looking forward to the return of roadside attractors.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

@tsmall07 that’s awesome. I have enjoyed the process too. Stopped for milk shakes at a cool little diner on our last trip.

[@james21ap1]

Model S is way better looking than Model 3. Also, it's roomier, smoother, and quieter. That's why I got one.

[@GroupIII]

Nice insight. I'm in the same boat as you. I currently have an '18 Model X and getting ready to trade in my ICE for another EV. Leaning towards Model S. Enjoy your S.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Funny you say that because I am eyeballing a 2018 x for my wife. So we would have an S and X. Have you enjoyed the x any downsides?

[@GroupIII]

@@DrewsReviews2023 I like riding Very low but the tires toe in so my inner tire wear is higher. I'm going to put custom hardware so I can ride Very low all the time. I wished I purchased a P100D but my 75D does everything I need to include pulling my utility trailer. Good luck with the X I really like mine. Never going back to ICE again.

[@dannyrusso8279]

Thanks for the informative video, although you're preaching to the choir! I have a 2014MS S85 and thought I'd take advantage of the free supercharging transfer, which is valid until Dec. 31st. I test drove a Model Y, which is within my price range, and didn't like it compared to my older MS. I'm sure I'd get used to it, but I felt the MS is more of a luxury vehicle, and that's in both ride and interior quality. I was going for the 3rd seat option in the Y but that third seat seemed to be an afterthought. The car seems to be a bit too small for that 3rd seat. Ideally the new Model X would be the ticket for me, but since I don't play Lotto that isn't likely to happen!

[@DrewsReviews2023]

I agree the model x would also be great to have! I considered the y with the free supercharge transfer too because I like the ability to be able to tow a trailer but opted not to. Thanks for the comment!

[@steveburdex6104]

As a 2021 Model 3 owner one thing he didn't touch base on is the warranty. Tesla warranties only cover 4 years or 50,000 miles. The S and the X are known for having issues with the suspension. Without a warranty that could add up. IMO if you want to fully enjoy your car with no concerns get the new model 3.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Thanks for adding to the conversation. Great point to add. Most people seem to be concerned with battery and motor issues. For my 2016 model I am covered for battery and motors until sep of 2024. I am also putting out a video this week regarding extended warranty that will cover me until 2027 for those same major issues. Either way the guy news is that all teslas are fun! Glad you landed in a M3. Love the look with the spoiler and performance rims.

[@WillProwse]

The model s is total garbage compared to the model 3. I have owned 7 teslas now and destroyed 2x model s's. Fried a motor in each one. The door handles are garbage. The fit and finish is garbage. My 2022 plaid was in the shop for over a month with less than 200 miles on it. Just utter garbage. I will never buy a model s again. My older model s had tons of issues as well. I've had 3 model 3's and 1 model y performance. Not a single issue. Better design. My friends with model s have had the same issues I have had too. I have broken 3 door handles and I know someone who broke 4 in a single year. You should buy a model three or a few other models and share your experience. Or ask other tesla owners who have had issues with model s over and over and over again

[@DrewsReviews2023]

That’s awesome! Thanks for adding to the conversation. That is so cool you have been able to buy so many Teslas. I plan to buy my wife a model x in the near future. Certainly wish I had the income you have to be able to afford so many varieties. I still prefer the look of the model S for me personally.

[@WillProwse]

@@DrewsReviews2023 oh hey! Cool to get a reply 😁 the model x is actually my favorite that's why I didn't mention it because it is perfect. Your wife will love it. make sure it's the new refreshed one because they fixed all the issues the older one had. My model x is driving me while I text this right now haha yeah the Teslas can be a bit pricey unfortunately. Do you charge yours with solar?

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Good to know. I actually am getting solar installed end of year. Already got the quote locked in and excited to be self sustaining. Only thing that sucks is my electric provider doesn’t have net metering.

[@esan0715]

Highly considering a 2016 or 17 model S. Currently drive an F150 about 400 miles per week to and from work. The payment on this would be less than gas.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

I had an f-150 too. Gas savings is redic, I miss being higher off the ground though. Still love the car but that is the main gripe.

[@TheCostofAutism]

When it comes to range, you need to remember that the EPA Test cycle is done with an average between city driving and highway driving. To top it off, since the Model S is made in CA, the highway driving portion has A LOT more stop and go traffic than most highways in the USA. So here's the thing, I rented a Model 3 from Uber when I needed to fix the Turbo on my Audi and I live in Delray Beach Florida. I would drive 50 miles North to Jupiter to drop off my son. I would then do deliveries until he got out of school, then pick him up and drive him back home. What I realized is that the car got WAY better mileage in stop and go city driving vs highway. My point here is that your range is going to depend tremendously on how you're driving the car.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Thanks for adding to the conversation. The same holds true on highway driving. I typically have to stop every 3 hours on long trips to charge, which is generally only 180 miles. Other instances I don’t need to stop to charge, but I do need to stop to pee. Ha. In either instance I stop to charge whether needed or not on long trips. It is also part of why I plug in my Tesla every night. I don’t need to, but never know how I will feel like driving/ where I will feel like driving that day.

[@TheCostofAutism]

@@DrewsReviews2023 This is one of the things that makes me laugh about people who tell me they will buy an electric car when it has a 500 mile range. My point is, who the hell is going to drive 500 miles without stopping to pee???

[@ConsultingjoeOnline]

Whoa, the Subscribe button lights up really cool when you say "subscribe". That's crazy, never seen that.

[@JWalton314]

I drove a 2018 Model 3 for the last 5 years and I recently rented a 2018 Model S for a week. It was a great car but you can tell the focus was on the Model 3 and not the S and X at the time. I felt like I was missing so many basic features just to drive a larger car.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment, I am curious though what features you felt were missing? As I’ve said in other comments I think all of the Tesla models are awesome! Just didn’t feel like any basic features were missing other than crappy cup holders and lack of storage in the doors lol.

[@Overland-460]

Model 3 is the ugliest of tesla

[@JWalton314]

@@Overland-460 The Model Y is the ugliest one in my opinion. But I don't buy them for their looks.

[@lagunamusic7686]

As an owner of a Model Y, the S is soooooo much better. Rude comfort alone is the most noticeable thing for me but really it’s a better car in every way except one. Battery replacement is far cheaper on a Y or 3 over an S but realistically you probably won’t ever have to do that

[@blackice7408]

I dont like electric cars. However, i love the first gen side and rear styling of the model s. It las the art like wide and hunkered down look with the wide rear tire body molding and grippy rear tires that makes it look like it flows thru the air effortlessly and performance based

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Thanks for the comment. I agree they did a great job with the styling.

[@gangatalishis]

I’m seeing some for under 30k, 2017, models with 50k miles. It’s crazy how much these depreciated.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

It’s fantastic isn’t it! They were way too overpriced to begin with anyway which is why they continue to go down in price for new ones. I think mine was worth like 95k brand new. Now the new ones go for 72k

[@bevanderamos9110]

Thank you. The video was very informative. Keep making more.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Thanks for the kind words!

[@mirnasj]

I purchased a used model S 2014 in silver. The car was the love of my life, but I purchased it from Tesla so I could have a two year warranty. I had to constantly take to service for repairs. When I purchased it it was low miles at 21000 miles and like new interior. In the last few months it died. I had it towed to Tesla and they told me they needed to replace batteries and drive train for a total of $22,500! I towed it back out of there and now she sits dead on my driveway. We tried just replacing the 12 volt battery but have not been able to clear last code and get it into drive. I am heartbroken 💔

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Oh no! I am so sorry to hear that. I have heard that the 2014 and 2015 have been known to have those issues including the drive units going bad. I’ll keep my fingers crossed you clear that code!

[@ansucametol5307]

Hi Drew, would you consider a professional video editor and content optimizer like myself?. If we can work together?

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Please message me on my email found on the channel if you want to talk about working together.

[@ansucametol5307]

@@DrewsReviews2023 hi Drew. I messaged you a long time ago already. Have not gotten a reply.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

@ansucametol5307 try again, I am not seeing anything.

[@ansucametol5307]

@@DrewsReviews2023 just tried again now. (Titled: Hi drew).

[@frankcutronijr]

I have a 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance and it can rip through Miami traffic. I believe the Model S to be more comfortable but it seems to lose the handling being a much heavier car.

[@Astromadeit]

This shows sound selection is key 🔥

[@Max-ct7gp]

I agree with you. I just test drove a new model 3 performance and I think I’m going to get a 2018 p100d instead. Model 3 was fast and not bad… it just felt cheaper inside.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Hard not to smile when you step on the pedal in any of the teslas though lol.

[@Max-ct7gp]

Too true!!@@DrewsReviews2023

[@Jesusistheway214]

Everyone is definitely entitled to their own opinion.. but some of these comments are wild and clearly shows that some of you that say you own a Tesla (really don’t). Like I would continue to say … each model of the Tesla has its pros and cons… but we can all agree (well some of us)… that Tesla has been proven to be a overall reliable, WITH or WITHOUT Warranty!!!

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Well said!

[@downix]

The only Tesla I would consider are the ones made before 2015. The 18650 cells and induction motor are what made them appealing to me to begin with.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Interesting. I havent heard this take before. Thanks for sharing.

[@thedownwardmachine]

If you buy a Tesla (or any car) from Carvana, it comes reconditioned with a 100 day warranty. When I got a Model S from Carvana last year, the headlights started flickering after 30 minutes (something you can't catch on a basic inspection) and I got them both replaced for free. Also if the car is still under original warranty, the factory will (should) honor it. I'm a big fan of the air suspension, low sitting position, high power, bigger battery, instrument display, and hatchback of the S.

[@DrewsReviews2023]

Man I hope a bunch of people see this comment the carvana 100 day warranty is great to hear. I didn’t know that was a thing. Thanks for sharing.

[@rah7207]

@@DrewsReviews2023i see it 🥳