Why You Should Destroy the Dark Brotherhood | Hardest Decisions in Skyrim | Skyrim Lore

[@AmesiPhoneRepairMore]

Yall won’t believe this but this is my first play through in Skyrim. Such a great and addicting game!

[@erikovsky4623]

I think the Dark Brotherhood would have been a much cooler guild if the quest was focused to kill Elenwen. And of course, Nazeem.

[@sheepisfortheweak6164]

Honestly, I think killing the Emperor is pretty fucking solid

[@buffsniper]

Or The silver Bloods or maven....

[@DeadwaveCarrier-oc1wo]

​@@buffsniperTruth, but since Maven employs their services and they have some ties with the Thieves Guild (also used by Maven), I doubt they'd go for them, which trust me, sucks. Would've be interesting to see how it plays into the civil war questline when the Imperials/Stormcloaks claim Riften/Markarth.

[@angrynene9810]

I killed lots of rude annoying NPCs in my game. I am chaotic neutral at best I do have some heroes but I mostly do every quest I can good or bad.

[@heathen_ix8910]

I absolutely abhor Astrid, when I finally killed her in the DB quest line I soul trapped her, enchanted a pathetic iron dagger using her soul, went to the soul cairn and dropped it. For the sadistic hope she finds it and it constantly reminds her of how awful she is.😁 Hail Sithis💀✋

[@TESkyrimizer]

damn girl u cray

[@heathen_ix8910]

I’m a guy

[@JDG-hq8gy]

BottledBanana I want you cray cra- whoops wrong fandom

[@Cumdaemon]

By the nine devines

[@heathen_ix8910]

Kai *eight

[@macncheesy1766]

The dark brotherhood wants to know ur location

[@meepmeep3397]

Here have a quest marker

[@macncheesy1766]

meep meep ya thxs

[@leaphiwyndraigon8988]

We already have his location brother

[@dutchvanderlind136]

Block

[@monkeyjuner6651]

I will kill the dark brotherhood. And hunt them all down and slay them

[@victoriabryer4710]

I killed Astrid in my very first play through. A group of Assassins Hell No. but now i just let her plans unfold and remain silent.

[@gaz_1106]

Not likeable? Control freak? Self obsessed? Yo bro....she single?

[@PeterParker-jz8eo]

Also burned

[@damienlim5232]

Pretty sure she is married

[@DevilM18]

She’s married to a dog man

[@joselekiwi5695]

How can I get rolff as a partner? I remember to have a character with rolff, he always said: "Please get me home" I search for info but i dont get anything

[@JDG-hq8gy]

stunu money they’re all jerks

[@hotredtiger316]

I actually have a character that took the Destroy the Dark Brotherhood path. My reason for doing it is because DB assassins kept coming at me, and I wasn’t having it.

[@wiibrockster]

The only good member of the Skyrim DB is Cicero. He respects the 5 tenent's,unlike everybody else...

[@christinagarrison2804]

Festus like the original darkbrotherhood to.

[@overlorddante]

Yes, he murders for money the correct way lol

[@Schemingzy]

Agreed :)

[@SlappedRat]

@@christinagarrison2804 Festus is great. Not to mention he died a badass by taking on a fuck ton of archers.

[@klobknocker65]

Gabriella respected the old ways as well.

[@DravenWolfe]

Funny enough, one of the reasons I destroyed the Dark Brotherhood in Skryim is because I didn't recognize them as the real brotherhood. Also, I was still salty about killing the Draconis family in Oblivion. I remember leaving the sanctuary saying I was the only Assassin in Skyrim.

[@CatchTheMarmosets]

what about poor Cicero

[@kennymccormic5025]

Too late, sorry accidentally became the leader of the dark brotherhood :/

[@tateranator1763]

The Void it’s never too late....

[@kennymccormic5025]

@@tateranator1763 r/cursedcomments

[@berad1997]

I went through the quest line just to kill Cicero because he killed my neighbor Loreius. Then I took all the money from the emperor job and left them in ruins. Cicero ruined my save file and that was the only way you kill him.

[@tateranator1763]

BeRad the reason he killed loreius is because you reported him to the guard that triggered the event. So BeRad the blood is on your hands

[@tateranator1763]

BeRad unless it was a glitch

[@michaelinsomanywords3647]

Psst I know who you are, hail Sithis!

[@kennymccormic5025]

Innocence, my brother

[@ariadamarsetiawan_4326]

@@kennymccormic5025 sorry wrong sanctuary

[@Maxz0]

Silence my brother 🤣😂#dark brotherhood forever

[@alduin1360]

Oop-

[@OsamaBinLooney]

@@kennymccormic5025 the lute? and drums? and some kind of chanting?

[@arbiterregnant]

"You want the Thalmor to conquer everything." I support the Empire all day, but I will never tolerate the Thalmor and will lead the Empire to destroy them whenever they can.

[@imhim3107]

empire > stormcloaks

[@dewaynehickman4996]

Why support the Empire. They are the one who were gonna cut your head off in the very start of the game. MORONS do forget.

[@LoganLS0]

The Empire supports the Thalmor.

[@StraightUpIrishJames]

Hello all, I hope you guys are having a good day! Heil Sithis and what not. What decisions shall we look at next, let me know in the comments and make sure to click the notification bell to stay tuned for new videos! What games are you guys playing right now, i'm pumping through Borderlands 3 and having loads of fun! Check out my Social Links: Twitter : twitter.com/?lang=en Facebook : facebook.com/Straightupir... Twitch : www.twitch.tv/straightupirish Instagram: instagram.com/straightupirish

[@Ma_ksi]

What is your opinion of the theory that the emperor wanted to get assassinated?

[@d-dh2143]

@@samersinno1623 >playing Borderlands 3 when it constantly uploads 2 mb/s worth of your data to Gearbox Gamers really HAVE collectively acquired Stockholm Syndrome!

[@markodevaio6972]

I don't know if you did the (join empire or rebel) decision but if you didn't I would love to see it

[@heathen_ix8910]

Hmmmmmmm. “Protect yourself or deal some damage?”

[@joselekiwi5695]

How can I get rolff as a partner? I remember to have a character with rolff, he always said: "Please get me home" I search for info but i dont get anything

[@ColderBrother98]

"Oooo... Listener... Oooo that tickles!" Is worth killing the emperor to hear.

[@BoJangles42]

When ever I wake up in that shack with Astrid, I have 4 black soul gems. I leave the shack with 4 filled black soul gems.

[@CarriganNeely]

I only do the quest line because SHADOWMERE, MONEY, BLADES, AND CICEROOOOOO!

[@briancooley8777]

The bone horse is cooler. Arvak 😏

[@CarriganNeely]

@@briancooley8777 lol. Yeah I posted this when I didn’t know about Arvak.

[@mohammedaminedali1079]

Shadowmere 🤮

[@ohapplesauce]

I honestly hated the dark brotherhood storyline. I kinda like my gameplay to fit my character, and I didn't know that I would have to kill the emperor in this storyline. I'm joined the empire, so it don't make sense to me. Also, I lost more money paying off my bounties than I gained doing jobs in the dark brotherhood. Thieves guild and Companions treated me better.

[@taxevasion0336]

Well you get to choose if your loyalty is stronger towards Sithis or the empire The only bounty I ever got was for the wedding quest in Solitude because I stalked around, waited until they were alone or sleeping like a true assassin

[@trumpisaconfirmedcuck5840]

Stormcloak supporter. Hated the quest line EXCEPT killing the Emperor. Death to monarchies! Yes I know Ulfric is a Jarl (and later high king) but at least he earned it in battle unlike Titus Mede who earned it because his daddy or mommy or brother or something was emperor.

[@chrisspiker5422]

@@trumpisaconfirmedcuck5840 Yeah, Death to Monarchies!( Unless I support them that is.) Empire gang.

[@AlexSmith-tp7xu]

I'm an empire supporting argonian. I'm ok with killing the emperor. He's a good man, but a bad leader. If he resigned it would give the elves even more leverage in calling the empire weak. But a legendary assassin spilling his guts? That's a fate not even the greatest men can escape forever. "I prove maro a fool yet again. You can't stop the dark brotherhood...never could". It's a morally gray decision but it makes sense if you look at the political situation under a microscope. It's like ulfric killing torygg. It wasn't great, but it was necessary. Torygg was a good man, but a poor king. I kill ulfric and the stormcloaks because they're making skyrim bleed when it needs to heal. Skyrim needs unity. Tamriel needs unity. The empire did skyrim well for hundreds of years until now. It's only with recent events that it's failed miserably. It needs reformed not vanquished. Anyone one who says they're a stormcloak has probably only played skyrim, or they don't care...which...fair, hats off to you casual gamers

[@iwatchDVDsonXbox360]

I planned to join the empire, but decided to do Dark Brotherhood first and when a guy said that he wanted to kill someone important i was like "please, not Ulfric!", but his suggestion was even worse... After finishing Dark Brotherhood reloaded to a moment before joining and finished Empire side without joining Dark Brotherhood.

[@theorangedinosaur4098]

The first time I saw Cicero ( At the pale and wihtrun border) I was slightly scared lol

[@Schemingzy]

Same! 😂

[@crypt1k755]

I thought he was funny lol.

[@foxgirl199]

Wait... Cicero is supposed to be scary......................... *fuck why did I marry him*

[@Local_commentor]

@@foxgirl199 because he's really charming

[@reverseimagesearch0results363]

@@foxgirl199 hahaha you married a tiny murderous nutter

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

I destroyed it... in my second playthrough. In my first I accidentally joined (after a while I began roleplaying as an Argonian who tried getting a better life in Skyrim but then just everything came spiralling down) but luckily I was an orc in my second so killing Astrid was easy

[@devilrecordsreborn5311]

The dark brotherhood and the empire both kidnap you. I always destroy both of them in every play through

[@kalanifusco9346]

My Dragonborn is a master thief, would anyone think killing off the dark brotherhood would ultimately be more profitable? I mean, citizens wouldn’t have to worry about a hit put out on them so they’d be less on alert with mere thieves running around. Also, siding with the empire would keep trade coming more efficiently and there’d be more money to keep the potential profit from becoming stagnant, so why would killing the emperor help in any way? Sure it’d probably mean something for high ranking government officials but what about the honest thieves who need the empire running to keep their pockets full? Idk someone help me rationalize this

[@andrewolson5471]

Astrid's Dark Brotherhood is a joke. And not the funny kind.

[@cemeterywind6082]

On my very first playthrough, I didn't want to kill the people tied up.. because I'm a nice Khajit. So, I unrelenting forced her off that shelf and ended her miserable existence.

[@kelsey7442]

Clever

[@Leto85]

You know, I could have gone into that Sanctuary, killed all those Dark Brotherhood types. But I was... sick that day.

[@Loadedice1]

Is this a quote from something? I swear it is but I can't think it for the life of me...ughhh

[@Leto85]

@@Loadedice1 Hehe, have you by any change once decided in a playthrough to destroy the Dark Brotherhood and then talked to any random guard afterwards? ;)

[@Loadedice1]

@@Leto85 oh yeaaaaaaa XD haha that's right! Jeeze that was years ago I totally forgot

[@Leto85]

@@Loadedice1 Skyrim is full of little gems like this. Too many to remember, but too fun to stumble upon them in random playthroughs.

[@theanxoiushero800]

@@Leto85 psst, hail sithis!

[@seyurienaidoo1324]

I've been waiting all my life for someone to change my mind on this topic. Thank you kind sir.

[@bundayeti]

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[@pucknorris3473]

Fun fact if you attack Cicero in front of Shadowmare the horse will aggro you... also Lucien LaChance has some special dialogue regarding Cicero, you are spot-on with your assessment.

[@alexcasillas4508]

I disagree with any dark brotherhood to refuse killing the emperor no matter what the situation, a contract is a contract, they don't care about keeping the world safe from the thalmor or any sort of threat, even without astrid and a true dark brotherhood like the one in Oblivion they should take the contract. Their evil, if the thalmor do manage to rid the world of men that just means the next dark brotherhood will be full of elves. I get what you mean though the dark brotherhood should abide by Sithis and the tenants. For me it's super simple, want an evil character join the brotherhood, want to be a good character destroy the dark brotherhood, want to just play a game and get all the stuff you can join the brotherhood.

[@LatinaKamilla]

POV: you’ve already completed the dark brotherhood quest line and are watching just cuz you’re bored and he sounds like a crazy Irish lad and enjoy him saying other as “utter”…. #HailSithis 🩸

[@voraciousrunner580]

I'm a Nightingale so when I was captured by the dark brotherhood I was like I say the nae and wipped them from existence

[@marcusmalixi1381]

Take an oath to serve and protect the emperor Also me... "Maybe 50 stab wounds is enough"

[@oldscoolgaming6700]

0:29 I am NOT with the Empire, bub! I’m a Stormcloak!

[@gavinl1565]

I destroyed them first. But then I hated being a good guy. My original khajiit character joins them just so he could return it back to its glory days. The days of his kahjiit grandfather gav'ar the hero of kvatch.

[@Japaneseanimeguy]

You're right about the Empire. Alvor actually tells you that Nord's still worshipped Talos privately until Ulfric drew attention to Skyrim and gave the Thalmor an excuse to send in their Justiciars and various other soldiers.

[@tritonlefebvre2294]

Hay btw fun fact, when you kill Ulfric Lehate Rikke seas something along the lines of "Talos Take you" proving that talos warship is still in the empire! So you are right :)

[@TheAtomBat]

@@tritonlefebvre2294 she says "talos be with you". But Tullius says "What was that legate?" But pretended not to hear it, because he doesn't care who people worship.

[@trumpisaconfirmedcuck5840]

@@tritonlefebvre2294 But I never kill Ulfric.

[@LoganLS0]

Ulfric gave the Empire an excuse to stand up to the Thalmor. They decided they'd rather capitulate even harder.

[@artisticbang9111]

Astrid the foolish leader but family loving Vs. Cicero the right leader but into necrophilia... My answer: I kill the dark brotherhood. The End

[@mohammedaminedali1079]

@TheLatiosnlatias02 why the nightingales?

[@mohammedaminedali1079]

They're basically gone except for karliah if you don't do the thieves guild questline

[@mohammedaminedali1079]

@TheLatiosnlatias02 but tbh they're basically gone

[@jpart3526]

You basically do, even when you do the entire questline. Everybody dies except, the child (of course) and Nazir. Everybody else parishes.

[@romevergerio5976]

Not gonna lie, once the questline is over it's pretty nice to be able to just kill some rando for an easy 1k

[@Leto85]

Can you do a video of why you should absolutely join the Dark Brotherhood? I think this is the most appropriate comment section to ask you this. :)

[@miathapapaya]

I never liked the entire dark brotherhood team, questline and felt gross doing the whole thing. Even once you complete it all they never go away. I feel much better doing away with them all and continuing the game

[@hawkeyenextgen7117]

What would make this questline more interesting would be if the one who wished to assassinate the emperor had ties to the stormcloaks, or ties to the original Dark Brotherhood in Oblivion. Another thing that would make this experience better is should you decide to kill the dark brotherhood, you are given a series of quests to prevent assassinations before they happen, tracking down each member before they can complete their task. And at the end of it, you ultimately fail to save the emperor, because the vampire child in the dark brotherhood tricked you into thinking she was a captive and kills the emperor.

[@nicholasmorgan7609]

I killed Lucien in Oblivion. It pissed off my friend so much because he loves the Dark Brotherhood so much. I also enjoy killing Astrid too.

[@tigdogsbody]

6:22 That smooth segue got me to like this video.

[@stevefilms1997]

As the Dragonborn it is your duty to kill anyone you can who is condescending towards you and Astrid is condescending towards you Also I join the Stormcloaks because I want to destroy the realms of man then there would be no more guards and I can steal all the sweetrolls in peace

[@julianhasson1940]

You're the Dragonborn and Astrid uses the excuse that they could not beat the imperials, so they sell you out. What?

[@crakenthe812]

When you think about it, the nords of Skyrim (if not leaded by ulfric) won the civil war, they could forge an alliance with hammerfell, high rock, and morrowind and beat back the thalmor

[@kenobi6257]

Morrowind isn't in a state to fight, High Rock is loyal to the Empire and Skyrim sucks in both manpower and the capability to sustain armies. A lot of the food of Skyrim comes from Cyrodiil

[@mouthymormonmetalhea]

What are the quest reward results? Shadowmere is pretty good, although unessesary with the summonable dawnguard horse.

[@taxevasion0336]

Shadowmere was kinda useless in oblivion because you didn't have to worry about slow movement speed or items weighing you down much as an agile speedy assassin who moves faster than the horse

[@taxevasion0336]

But the quest rewards is basically just at the very end the blade of woe, 20k septims, infinite night mother quests for some gold now and again but that's about it

[@mouthymormonmetalhea]

@@taxevasion0336 I didn't know Shadowmere could respawn in skyrim! Based on my initial play! I was sad that I lost him.. but most of the dark brotherhood bonuses are about gold! Well once you master the art of alchemy and in chanting... it isn't about gold anymore! Definitely the best horse in the game! But unlike his oblivion counterpart, totally killable!

[@taxevasion0336]

@@mouthymormonmetalhea I have always had way TOO much gold in Skyrim Or every elder scrolls game for that fact

[@kiragamer7520]

Oh I'm glad I searched up a video on it. I had no idea you could destroy The Dark Brotherhood. Glad I didn't get too far and can go back and kill Astrid instead of staying in the guild

[@georgevass6863]

- Forget the list he goes with the rest And i took that personally..

[@PrinsaVossum]

I actually like Astrid. I was really disappointed that you couldn't side with her and that she's always the "antagonist" of the questline.

[@Local_commentor]

what about head chopping imperial scum Pentious ocolutous or wat ever their name is they kill poor my argonian friend

[@CainSuzuko]

Simp.

[@TheIrland09]

I would have sided with her if it meant we could clap cheeks.

[@Danny____22]

@@TheIrland09same man. The only good thing she's good for huh.

[@allu6244]

I did not even know that you could destroy the dark brotherhood before i joined it and complete the whole questline

[@cheetolover55]

GONNA BE FIRST 2 FINISH IT 2X SPEED YES

[@Kadett-rr7ry]

The bastard is a genius!

[@namesareforfriends4552]

Using VtMB music you can convince me the world is ruled by 17 Pink Sugar Elephants!

[@kindaedgy3548]

The emperor actually wants to die. He gladly accepts his death when you reach his quarters. The empire is falling apart

[@kenobi6257]

The Empire isn't falling apart. The Southern border is secured and fortified, a Legion is gathering at Pale Pass to clean the Stormcloaks and the Emperor wants to die because HE ordered the Black Sacrament to be done in the first place, to have someone (probably Rexus) be named Emperor after him with a clean reputation and a young, strong and capable Emperor

[@kindaedgy3548]

@@kenobi6257 guess so. I guess I assumed it was because of the treaty they signed with the thalmor

[@kenobi6257]

@@kindaedgy3548 They signed the treaty because they needed to recover. The Empire was exhausted, but you have to remember that humans recover way faster than elves. 20 years have passed, and in those years a new generation of Legionaries, mages and generals has risen to take the place of the previous one, while the Thalmor can't hope to recover their mages, who take hundreds of years to master their art. General Tullius tells the Dragonborn after the Siege of Windhelm that the true war is about to start... this time against the true enemy. If Hammerfell joins the Empire in the war and having in count that the Thalmor lost the Orb of Vaermina... the Thalmor should be fucked

[@kindaedgy3548]

@@kenobi6257 yeah I kinda got the first point before, it's just that my logic was that the empire retreating meant they lost too many men, and could no longer fight back. But after what you explained, I'm pretty convinced they'd be able to eliminate the thalmor

[@kenobi6257]

@@kindaedgy3548 Well, thank you ^^. TESlore's videos about the Great War help a lot with this, a lot of people forget that the Empire signed the peace after a massive victory at the Battle of the Red Ring

[@slyguy8931]

Spare Cisero, and rebuild the real Brotherhood with him.

[@nightterror6727]

*_Sithis wants to know your location_*

[@patricksmith3871]

Dark Brotherhood = Edgelords of Skyrim

[@Stenly17]

Did you meet DB in Oblivion? Now that is 3edgy5me

[@patricksmith3871]

@@Stenly17 Unfortunately I never played Oblivion, but I am going to play it just to experience all that edge

[@flats6666]

@@patricksmith3871played it yet??

[@waelse1]

Fun vid. Astrid is cool and has a sexy voice, but admittedly so does Cicero. I would hate to miss out on all the murders, though.

[@castantino]

Give you a reason? Let me finish counting my gold and I'll get back to how many reasons I can give

[@fletcherriverwood8964]

The corrupted empire needs darkbrotherhood to make it pure again, Titus knows it and arranged his own assassination or at least He knows its necessary for the empire,join the brotherhood that is how history works.

[@xgentis]

The funny thing is I never joined the dark brotherhood. And then seeing how easy it was to kill them all they were loosy assassins anyway.

[@Kilgore2307]

I destroyed the dark brotherhood for multiple times until one of my Nord character was assaulted by a dark brotherhood assassin who got sent by that Astrid b**ch, so I started the quest, "innocence lost" and after being dragged to that shack, I immediately killed her and freed the captives.

[@tritonlefebvre2294]

Wait a second......doesn't Astrid die and you become the leader of the dark brotherhood, and you go bact to the old ways (BASICALLY GIVING THE DARK BROTHERHOOD A LITARAL RESTART) Btw I think Festus Krex is also one of the more REAL dark brotherhood people...and Veezara doesn't even beleave in sithis! But anyway we can all agree that Astrid sucks :) (thanks for reading all dis Lol)

[@babygurleatsshickennuggits4201]

Festus Krex and Cicero

[@taxevasion0336]

I wonder what elder scroll 6 will do for the dark brotherhood? If you destroy them they are basically wiped out completely, are they just gonna make one ending cannon and forget about the other?

[@FolkoMagipaw]

@@taxevasion0336 most likely the brotherhood will just rise again eventually.

[@taxevasion0336]

@@FolkoMagipaw Yea that makes sense, the wrath of sithis and the night mother are pretty damn resilient

[@mohammedaminedali1079]

@@taxevasion0336 if only they do what cdpr did with the witcher 3 at the start of the game, basically answering questions to make whatever you choose to be canon, canon

[@alicegille3496]

Very good editing on this video btw

[@sixx2683]

I always end up becoming the leader of the dark brothehood.. I seem unalble to make a morally good character ahaha

[@Kyzen_Wrell]

Funny enough- it’s Ironically Astrid that is pro-imperial by wisening up and stopping the initial Emperor’s execution by alerting Commander Maro (yes I’m aware he’s imperial too, but not of the legion, just of the Emperor’s guard) to also prolong the Dark Brotherhood’s existence… even if she doomed it by killing the guy’s son. Still, she kept the leader intact.

[@isaacjohn4055]

Kill the dark brotherhood and get John wick to take over instead, just dont kill his dog.

[@darkhunter9647]

And don't take his car either

[@ireneparkin3360]

Is 3000 Septims worth it? Would you rather have 20,000 Septims instead?

[@ireneparkin3360]

@[ . ] it will eventually pay for itself, due to those torture victims you get. With between 4000 and 8000 Septims every few weeks, you'll get the money back.

[@mossthatrules77]

Yeah 3,000 septims is worth not being an edgelord

[@henrytownshed5304]

I really like the Oblivion dark brotherhood, it has some of my favorite quests the contract that you get to kill faelian, Valen dreth. Skyrim really didn't have any good contracts. Nothing that felt as satisfying as killing Valen dreth or as good as whodoneit.

[@muggers2079]

u literally kill the empeoeor

[@spicydeath82]

actually the emperor ordered his own execution. when you finally get to him he's calm and knew you were coming. fudgemuppet or camelworks(can't remember which) did a pretty good job explaining the idea.

[@shadowstrider5033]

That's just a theory, a game t.....

[@superabdoking5372]

There are both made videos about it)

[@sponsorofawesome]

It was avarti who originated the theory

[@williambriggs4574]

In the end the listener (the player) starts rebuilding the brotherhood with Babette and Nazir who confessed their sins and vile choices against sithis and the night mother. So by the time of the brotherhood in the dawnstar sanctuary they r rebuilding back up to the dark brotherhood we all know and love. Plus both festus and vezeera admit to the player that Astrid needs to change her ways of leadership. So whatever you do don't destroy the brotherhood.

[@nicksalehi97]

Haha sword go swosh swish

[@pyrorock8143]

I decided to destroy the Dark Brotherhood, because they’ve sent three assassins after me, so why would I join them? When Astrid gave me the option to kill one of the hostages to join them, I just simply told her “fuck you” and killed her instead.

[@ivayloyotov7618]

Have you considered that the Emperor himself may actually set up the contract to be killed from behind the scenes?

[@admanios]

>Why you should destroy the Dark Brotherhood >Hard decision Mephala: "lol"

[@shadowstrider5033]

You know, a nice purge just might be what this sanctuary needs.

[@northernsentinel8447]

Only brotherhood members worth their salt are Cicero, Festus, and Gabriella. Only three who actually give a crud about the old ways

[@angryflowerchild7849]

Just so you know, your love of Cicero got you the 700th like on this video.

[@ryanhoffman704]

If u find the(worn gloves. ) That do dubal back stab damage in chant them they can have 3 in chant meets on them.

[@ShinAk1raSama]

Ironically, getting the Emperor killed would actually be a good thing for the war effort, assuming the Empire wins in the Skyrim civil war. Having rumors spread that the Thalmor were the ones to call for the hit on the unpopular emperor who will be portrayed as a martyr will give cause for the people to rally behind the new emperor. As for Tulius' son, why was he visiting Windhelm-- the capital of the Stormcloaks? I get the feeling he actually might have been a spy for the Stormcloaks, and we happened to just plant unnecessary false evidence. That being said, assassinating the emperor's cousin, though, is extremely uncalled for.

[@Mikeh2077]

It’s not like you completely eradicate the Brotherhood anyway. Babette isn’t in the sanctuary if you choose to wipe them out and neither is Cicero. 🤷‍♂️

[@brontome]

So question here, can the dark brotherhood even deny a contract? Even if it's the emperor and it's bad for the future of the political scape of the entire world?

[@dutchpatriot17]

They can only deny a contract if it breaks one of the Tenets.

[@JaydenPullin]

Why would I kill astrid who is my second fav character besides delphine

[@Old_World_Nostalgia]

Because poor little Aventus

[@cam1k578]

The dark brotherhood my fav guild tbh, I love sneaking and killing. Plus if you soul trap it’s a easy black star fill up

[@ryanbarclay7939]

Wasn't the whole plot of oblivion that without a sentiment on the throne, Nirn was vulnerable to daedric invasion? Can't help but think that killing the emperor can NOT have good consequences for the world at large.

[@Tier1Norseman]

I wish the Vampire girl in the DB would do contracts ha ha. Imagine seeing her take out an adult ha ha ha.

[@seangardner8965]

Vampire girl wants to know your location.

[@jonfernandez8027]

...I just didn't care for the whole dark brotherhood story. Near the beginning of the game, the dark brotherhood actually tried to kill me - I pulled and read the letter from the corpse myself. As the game progressed, these arrogant pricks actually invited me to join the faction. I am eye for an eye. IMO - if Astrid's stupid enough to assemble a contract to kill me, turn around and invite me to her faction, she deserves to have all the members of her guild slaughtered and have me occasionally visit and beat her near death. I tried just that. I went out of my way to craft the most optimal weapons and armor in the game to cause havoc and carnage to the dark brotherhood. But, the only way to have access to the brotherhood's sanctuary, is if Astrid provides the password. Once you are that far, the game will not allow you to kill any of the members. Further in the brotherhood story, I couldn't be more happy when the sanctuary was attacked, everything in flames. I took my time and saved no one. My only regret is they did not die by my hands and two were sparred. I would have traded in 90% of the liberties the game had to offer, just to gain access to that sanctuary, kill everyone but Astrid and occasionally visit her with a severe beat down. Lol that's just how I roll. Attempt to kill my character? Best be sure to pull it off. If not, we'll be having a conversation....real soon.

[@kingofwizard888]

If you hate Astrid shoes off

[@williambriggs4574]

Wether or not u destroy or join the brotherhood. Cicero is Bethesdas get out of jail free card simply because Cicero doesn't die when u destroy the brotherhood.

[@LoganLS0]

Sometimes I think I should change things up and join the brotherhood. But I alway end up with Astrid dead in the shack.

[@ishaqedrees5849]

If you want a better reason mavin black briar has a heavy influence for them so if you destroy it she no longer has influence on them

[@The_Kohler_Express]

Welp. I didn't think you could, but you convinced me

[@toothlessrick3970]

In my first playthrough, I didn't even join. Second playthrough, I joined. You see I didn't know you could kill her, I thought she was an essential. By the time I played my tenth playthrough, I killed her.

[@wesleytownsend8214]

This is one of my new favorite creators for elder scrolls. This creator has a fantastic persona! Thank you for the great content! All the best to you and yours!

[@Stenly17]

If you join the DB, you get the best horse, best light armor (non-crafted), best summon and best follower. If you destroy it, you will get nothing. Penitus Oculatus needs to step up their reward game if I should give up pretty much top 4 unique things in game...

[@cowkillere9889]

You can loot Astrid

[@40rollsonly]

@@cowkillere9889 and what do you get?

[@gamingowl7422]

3:01 just my type

[@WolffyRay117]

If u look at it like this killing the current emperor opens up the possibility of a more favoured leader and who better then the dragon born. Think about it they stop 3 world ending evens and have proved there strength as well as have some dragons on there side

[@Rukusoru]

the only reason i side with the dark brotherhood is bc of shadowmere, a horse that does not die is very useful

[@Jysyncyt]

There is only one DBH member I actually like, plus killing the Emperor starts the war in my playthrough. I have a reason to blame the Stormcloaks. Go with Stormcloaks after DBH questline, then turn on the bears when getting the crown and once the Civil War is over, I kill off everybody else. The horror. 😭

[@theLOSTranger234]

I was about to remake a new character in skyrim for a DB playthrough then I got like 5 videos notifications saying why you SHOULDNT join the DB! (this video being the second cause let's face it, strightupIrish is number 2! lol kidding and much love to m'aiq that awesome furball! )

[@briansheehan3430]

I joined them once, in my first playthrough, and in every playthrough after that I've destroyed them. Long live the Emperor.