Should You Train In Carbon Super Shoes?

If you are lucky enough to have tried a pair of supershoes, you'll know how good they feel! Perfect cushioning, endless speed and let's face it... they look great. Should you be training in them though? Do these record-breaking wonders have a darker side? Join James as he explains how to get the best out of your new Supershoes.
00:00 Intro
00:20 How often should you run in Supershoes?
02:15 How do Supershoes change the way you run?
03:55 How should I train in Supershoes?
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[@gtn]

Race day or every day, how often would you wear Supershoes? 🏃

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

I wear max cushions every day all day as they help me walk for longer.

[@F1tch1c]

I find they are much better for my legs in general but I only use them for speed work.

[@jt.8144]

EVERYDAY BECAUSE. I CAN AFFORD THEM.

[@User85306]

Only fast workouts (reduced/eliminated my hip problems) Not on the main trainingvolume (easy runs) otherwise you loose your leg-spring-stiffness and get slower and vulnerable for injuries.

[@Eagle6Airsoft]

Fast yes, but think about your carbon foot print.

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

I mean you saving the planet by wearing carbon shoes everdsy as your turning carbon in the air into a shoe.

[@andrewmcalister3462]

I see what you did there. 😂😂😂

[@rrandy8432]

😂😂😂

[@rominhoferrari]

LooooooooL

[@tradestone100]

Ba dum tiss 😂

[@tinybarabo]

I don’t have a supershoe, but maybe I will get one for my marathon in autumn. Also great tips!

[@JustKeepFlowingYes]

Great video!

[@erikgarcia2929]

I bought my super shoe 2 months prior to my first half marathon and only wore it twice before the race. Also used it before my first marathon and also only trained in them 3 times before the race. I’ve decided to use them once a month gradually using them for my race pace runs 10k and beyond.

[@gtn]

Sounds like you are introducing them well! We hope you enjoy your new supershoes 👌

[@purelyrecovery]

I like to train in my supershoe about a month before the race to get used to it. 🙂

[@danfurze]

I use mine for my fast interval training (once a week, < 10km) just to get used to them, because they are comfortable, and they have helped me stay injury free.

[@gtn]

That's awesome! It's an important thing to get used to 🙌 You don't want to rock up to race day and feel uncomfortable

[@satx76]

Am a senior; gradual training load and familiarization then used for a half race and at about 8 miles in really began to hurt (feet). Trained again and next race same result. Went back to non-carbon and no problems for next two races and faster back halves with negative splits. Considering one more try but suspect not for this old man.

[@grstahl]

I have foot injuries, and carbon plated shoes, combined with good orthotics, have made it possible for me to run.

[@MrTigerlilly68]

I use my super shoes for racing and hard track intervalls only, so I get the feel for them on race day.

[@gtn]

Do you feel a big difference come race day? 💨

[@MrTigerlilly68]

@@gtn yes, they feel more boucy 🌞😁

[@ironman140.6]

Hoka's Carbon X has helped tremendously to stay injury-free. Worth the price. Now on sale. Very Individual choice. Please feel free to just do what you think works for you. No science results either way. That is the wise approach.

[@clairecaulkett4452]

The original Carbon X were the best, can't find them anywhere! Still have one pair with a couple of miles left 😂 but wish I could get another pair!

[@gtn]

Great to hear carbon has worked for you! Do you wear them all the time? 🏃

[@ironman140.6]

@@gtn The answer is yes. rotate three pairs to keep my feet guessing which shoe they get each day:) On a serious note, this is a game changer with no injuries and no fatigue. Not challenging your presentation which I really enjoyed just sharing my experience.

[@user-ng3rf7wz1d]

Racing shoes for race day (and a couple of warm up training runs to make sure they are worn in). Otherwise, minimalist training shoes to help build foot and calf strength.

[@gtn]

How long does it take you get used to the race shoe?

[@user-ng3rf7wz1d]

@@gtn Two or three long runs

[@kierank01]

adios 4 was great shoe

[@ianpohl7481]

I agree...something is lost in your running with Carbon Fiber Plates. Shoe rotations are there for a reason. As different shoes stress different muscles as the gait adjusts. So my take is use a shoe rotation. Best way to get your legs used to all conditions.

[@joelmorrison9936]

First carbon shoe was only for the races. Once I bought a new pair, I started using the old ones for training. And so on.. so therefore ended up training 70% of sessions in the carbon shoe. No problems at all so far. However, I think I might take the advice and use them less now. 🤘👍

[@gtn]

It's good to find a balance. Otherwise, come race day and you'll be struggling to get used to your new shoes 👀

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

Yes because you should train in your gear just in general wether it's milltary, auto racing, music, writing and yes simply running... as if you don't the risk of something going wrong goes higher... If your worried about injorty then train in the shoe and stop when you bones aech I've been doing that all my 28 years of life and never had a stress frature despite can easly get them. Which in the US milltary train stress freatures are common because some people are prone to it and did not train before boot camp but you can recover from them and your bones will be stronger... Something you can't say from head injuries in americain football that ghhappen at any level. So yes if you can aforde it do it! your bones will thank you on race day!

[@rundown132]

Dumb take, train on it every so often and definitely do not just use it for race days. Daily use just mean it becomes a crutch

[@Haile_GOAT]

Have used them quite a lot last year - around 80% of my training and no direct issues. But I do geht the impression that - as we know - they deteriorate rapidly and by not stoping using them in time you en up running in not ideal shoes. This seems to have been a bit of an issue to my feet lately which is why have significantly reduced using them lately. And it does feel the right way doing this ;-)

[@gtn]

How was it going back to normal shoes? 👟

[@aliasgharkhoyee9501]

Only PEBA foam deteriorates quickly. Other foams like Adidas Lightstrike Pro (TPEE) last a long time.

[@wilfdarr]

Super shoes use your muscles completely different so if you are racing in them you need to train in them. This is why Nike makes training shoes that mimic their running shoes.

[@groupevolution1250]

As an applied biomechanist there is research and science to entirely support the correlation between long term use of carbon plated shoes and deconditioning of the achilles tendon. This also reduces their performance benefit.

[@Jono01]

Super shoes have allowed me to run more without injury. I use Nike Zoomfly 5 for training and Vaporfly 3 for races. I also occasionally do barefoot sessions on grass for form. I used to get metatarsal stress fractures and calf strains even at low mileage. Now with super shoes, I can run more and not get injured. Everyone’s different I guess.

[@samuelkaw5267]

I have clubfoot and reduced flexibility of my foot. What do you guys think, would supershoes be good for me too?

[@marcuswills6569]

Get what you are saying, but I wouldn't class the Zoomfly 5 as a "super shoe", its a mid range decent training shoe.

[@User85306]

There needs to be an argument for the running shoe companies to sell all their other models.😜😂 Absolutely Crazy - Every year a new model and way to much derivates. But beeing 100% serious: I had alot of hip-problems and since i use them during my fast workouts (Alpha Fly 1) they went away (for 2 years now). When i once had a break for 3 weeks from running in them, my pain came back. Of course it may be individual, but for me they are the best choice for my fast workouts. No sideeffects since those 2 years. Gettimg faster and faster.

[@bgate1984]

Does the spring back from the carbon plate reduce if you wear them too much?

[@felixs.7730]

Usally Carbon Fibre is very durable and doesn't deform plasically. So it should stay in form almost indefinetly

[@marcuswills6569]

The foam is where you get the spring from as it compresses against the plate, the plate is fine but the foam will break down the more you wear them.

[@michaelhatch1994]

Lets have a little perspective on this. When Nike came out with the first waffle sole I'll bet dollars to donuts that some wise coaches said, don't train in them only use them on race day. Now those "super shoes" of the day, are the daily trainer. And the reality of super shoes is that you have to run in them in a way that gets the most out of them. That's not how you run in a daily trainer. The distance runners all know that it's the last quarter of the run that makes or breaks the run, super shoes come into their own then. I have over the course of the last 18 months used my carbon super shoes and as a result have no injuries, no black toes (except as a result of going back to my trainers because I took another You Tubers advice). And also doubled my weekly mileage. So excuse me for not agreeing. My Puma Dv8 N E have a lot of miles on them and they work just fine. And yes you should train with your disc wheel regularly, how else will you become confident in any wind conditions. There's no point in being nervous on race day. Buy a gatorskin if need be to practice and use butyl inner tubes, but use that disc....😇

[@nsmith131]

This video is basically just 50% moralising, 25% shaky evidence, and 25% 'just asking questions'. As you imply, it probably won't age too well.

[@nomismg]

Just get nylon plated shoes like endorphin speed 4. If you have enough money to buy a second pair then buy a carbon plated shoes

[@djdelprado]

just the thought of the price of the super shoe makes me less use it.

[@winklertribe5268]

I’ve never had race-day shoes (super or otherwise). I just have road running shoes and trail running shoes- that’s it. Running shoes are too expensive to have several different pairs! Here in United States, today is Morhers Day, so HAPPY MOTHERS DAY TO HEATHER!

[@thestreakpodcast]

In the 80s and 90s you'd hardly ever train in your racing shoes. How did it became a thing?

[@gcostagcosta]

It sounds so prone to injuries, so dangerous that one might just avoid using it.

[@peaceofmindrr]

1st

[@HM-qe9pd]

Certainly not!

[@Greenphil111]

Why don't you show some super shoes?

[@FalaqX]

Why are these called "super shoes" i got a pair for my birthday

[@fabianrares]

Sure, if you are sponsored or rich..

[@zaharizahariev]

You have to be a really depressed northerner to pay 💰 that kind of money for such injuries junk. But then again if it gives you the much desired status for you know and the fellow runner do how expensive that kind of rubbish is Why not?