Why You Should Stop Having Dairy

In this eye-opening episode of Talking with Docs, Dr. Zalzal and Dr. Weening delve into the controversial topic of dairy consumption and its potential impact on health. Unveiling the myths and facts surrounding dairy, they explore the reasons why some believe it's detrimental to our well-being. Get ready for an enlightening conversation that challenges conventional wisdom and encourages viewers to rethink their relationship with dairy. 🥛🚫 #DairyDebate #HealthTalk #TalkingWithDocs
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[@TalkingWithDocs]

What is your favourite dairy product?

[@lisagreenberg5020]

Sheep yogurt and Manchego sheep cheese

[@Lazzar1958]

2% milk, sour cream & cheeeeese!

[@marnasorensen988]

Yogurt

[@MC-fu7yc]

I drink two glasses of Milk and an egg each day.

[@DaveJavuify]

Extra mature cheddar cheese. Nom nom. 🧀

[@britt4404]

I have suffered from migraines since I was 6 .. at least 2 attacks a week ... at 25 my life changed when I cut out dairy completely out of my diet ! I think we all have to pay attention to how we feel with /without dairy to make a decision to cut it out

[@burby_geek]

Same. But no migraines for me with raw dairy products

[@TraceyMush]

That's awesome! I had migraines for most of my life. At one time I recorded everything I ate but because I ingested Dairy so very regularly I was never able to isolate it as the cause. In my 50s I went vegan at which point I also finished with the perimenopause and went into menopause. About 6 months later, no more migraines. It's quite amazing living life migraine free after 30 plus years of dealing with those terrible things. I wish I had learned as young as you what one of the likely reasons was for that terrible pain. Good job at isolating the reason for your pain!

[@nancyhoward2876]

I'm in my mid 80's and have been drinking milk and eating cheese all my life. I still have all my teeth, and don't have osteoporosis. I buy Organic Valley grass-fed milk, and make yogurt from that.

[@Alfakkin]

Quality is the most important thing 👏

[@Monas99]

you're an exception, most people suffer greatly from consuming dairy, so it's best to avoid it.

[@deebee4575]

@@Monas99"most people"? Source?

[@thelandsavior402]

Back in the days ppl make yogurt. They dont just consume the milk.

[@JC_958]

I love diary, dairy hates me.

[@Judahthanksgiving]

That's what I say.

[@retribution999]

There is so much conflicting advice on diet from so called experts its impossible to know what to eat! I would say eat a varied diet, exclude all processed foods, eat real foods, eat nutrient dense foods, drink pure mineral water, avoid alcohol and fast one day a week. Never over eat and take regular exercise. Get on with life and enjoy it

[@45graham45]

Agree 100%. So much contradictory info from doctors & experts.

[@tommylarnefeldt7671]

Hey theres conflicting advice on your advice. Alcohol fasting etc😉

[@cudgee7144]

Yes, you know what an expert is. X is an unknown factor, and a spert is a drip under pressure. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. I like your " Get On With Life And Enjoy It " philosophy . 🥰✌👍👍👍

[@user-fc7pr5yc8c]

I went to a Naturopath 10yrs ago to help get off asthma inhalers that I had to use for 10 yrs. She ran a food sensitivity panel and said I was highly sensitive to dairy. I went dairy free for 6months and now only have it once a month and I stopped using asthma inhalers 10 yrs 😍❤️

[@blancaa.gonzalezdelapena6353]

goat milk heals asthma, just ask docotr about consuming goat milk, there lactose intolerant pills you can take before consuming milk.

[@eileenoreilly1979]

I went plant based and had the same thing! It's awesome to breathe 😆 no more drugs and inhalers!

[@joesphbegley3088]

I am a 92 year old man who requires no daily medication. I have had dairy and enjoyed it all my life.

[@swb3248]

Good point. Dairy fine for most people

[@eileenoreilly1979]

Why do folks get so upset if u make them question animal products? Plant based has so many health benefits and its compassionate to all beings. ❤ brave of u both.

[@beachbreath2504]

Maybe because for those of us who have severe issues caused by oxalates we have had to limit a huge amount of various plants and have found relief in clean animal based foods. It’s exhausting getting emotionally beat up for the choice we have had to make for our health. Everyone needs to extend some grace to one another!

[@kennethcarter2798]

Moderation is the key in life.

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Sure is. But for some things none can work too

[@wordswordswords8203]

@@TalkingWithDocs Yes

[@americanexpat8792]

As a 66-year old guy, I think I have seen every single food on the planet lambasted as being ‘bad’ at one time or another, often multiple times. It leads many of us to just tune it out. What’s really ironic is foods that once considered ‘bad’ often come back around to being ‘good’. As a very good NYT article eloquently observed, the problem with most nutritional studies is that they done using ‘observational’ studies, most of which should have never been published. And it leads to a lot of ‘junk’ science - and confusion for many of us. Nutrition really isn’t complicated. Eat foods from sources as close to the ground as possible in moderation. Avoid as much sugar from non-direct fruit sources as humanly possible. Sleep well. Get a variety of exercise. Always keep moving. Reduce stress. Balance is the operative word. Ironically, I ate two yogurts as I watched this video. My bloodwork is excellent and I am in good shape. But I follow the rules in the previous paragraph as possible. Some dairy is OK.

[@Enfrance2003]

You are very fortunate. Some of us not so.

[@susanherley8450]

Exercise and moderation go a long way

[@RoxinaSolerGamborena]

Moderation of what's detrimental..why? With so very many options outthere in the Whole Food Plant-based world- explore! So much better for our health. And, to stop animal cruelty and this non sustainable food habits that involves animals like cows...what's the fuss with changing it for plant milks? And making cheese with nutritional yeast and nuts (and to find so many other goodies for your (brown) breadand white- wich is also proven now to be very detrimental as well; unlike the oo% options)..I fail to understand such approaches..

[@MTrekker2001]

​@@RoxinaSolerGamborena Plant based milk makes no sense and is wasteful, just consume the whole plant (nuts, seeds, grain) and get the fiber.

[@melaniej.roberts206]

The thing is, food is processed and dairy is not ethically sourced. It's full of all kind of DNA altering garbage that was never in the milk we had as kids

[@ginaf2103]

I'm 68 and have eaten dairy my whole life. I have had skin and gut issues for years. 3 weeks ago, l found out I'm allergic to cow's milk, cheese, etc. Which l love. 😢 I am gonna try to give up all dairy and see if l feel/get better.

[@lshalhout6582]

When I was young and farmers were generalists my father’s farm had a lot of dairy cows. Loved the cows and their cat buddies. I ate lots of dairy products growing up even after we moved away from the farm. I’m 74 now and in my mid 60’s started having gut, IBS problems, my doctors really weren’t helpful in solutions, but one finally sent me to a dietitian who knew about FODMAP foods, what different probiotics worked best for different problems and even basics like longer chewing and smaller portions of problem veggies. After an extended elimination diet, and slow reintroduction things got better and I noticed the three dairy items I loved most - half & half in coffee, some butter and ice cream gave me no problems but low fat dairy and yogurts had horrible effects. One day I picked up three packages of cream cheese and read the ingredients - regular had a few ingredients, low fat was double the ingredients, non-fat was book length and barely recognized any of it. I’ve since discovered that a plain whole milk Greek yogurt which can be made palatable with fresh fruit is actually very good for my gut. So if you love dairy find out what does and doesn’t work for you. Thanks docs for thoughtful discussions.

[@susanherley8450]

A dab of cinnamon on the plain yogurt is yummy

[@lshalhout6582]

@@susanherley8450 I tried it this morning stirring it into a spoonful of the plain yogurt and it definitely improves the taste and I feel cinnamon has health benefits too. Was even better with more cinnamon and raspberries. Thank you for the suggestion.

[@jimmym3352]

I might have to look into this. I started having gut problems this year at age 50. I'm still trying to figure out the cause.

[@d.tr6176]

@@susanherley8450 Also vanilla.

[@kddidit08]

Yes! Low-fat dairy is such a waste.

[@shannon2003]

I’m 72 and I take no prescriptions. I have been on keto for 5 years with no health problems. I love dairy and always have.

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Nice for you!

[@beepbeepnj2658]

@@TalkingWithDocs Sounds like he eats the same diet as Dr. Wolfgang Lutz who lived to age 97?

[@sandyf6215]

I absolutely LOVE dairy! I use non-fat milk for my cereal and just for drinking a glass with a meal. I love cream cheese, mac & cheese, yogurt, ice cream, cottage cheese, and most harder cheeses. I don't like meat very much so my protein comes mostly from dairy. I'm 71 and have been drinking milk since the day I was born. I don't drink alcohol or smoke or do drugs. Dairy makes me happy. Thank you for all the good information you give. Really appreciated. 😊

[@judyheard6266]

Milk is linked to ovarian cancer. My mother was a milk drinker and got ovarian cancer at about 76 years. Maybe it wasn't the dairy, but there are alot of hormones in dairy. Just saying.

[@sandyf6215]

@@judyheard6266 My mom died of ovarian cancer too but she wasn't a dairy person at all. In fact, she had a complete hysterectomy and 25 years later ovarian cancer took her life from a stray cancer cell. I have also had the same surgery when I was 40 but no cancer was found. I am blessed.

[@lindarose-evans5783]

I am 69 and have been lactose intolerant for several years, not my entire life. I only eat yogurt and small amounts of cheese on occasion. I substitute cow’s milk with coconut milk to eat with cereal and smoothies. My total cholesterol is a little elevated, but my HDL is very good and LDL is okay so no statins. Triglycerides have never been above 70 which is pretty amazing since mom, dad, and a sister had wildly elevated triglycerides. I was a runner most or my adult life until several years ago when arthritis caused so much joint pain I was forced to walk instead. Last year I had a total hip replacement and this past October a partial knee replacement. I’m back on the road walking my dog, a Standard Poodle who is nearly 3/4 my size, and it feels pretty good. My lifetime of exercise and healthy eating may have contributed to my history of low triglycerides since no one else in my family has this habit. I love your videos!

[@semiproactive9625]

I'm 71 and tossed out the cows milk for the last time 6 months ago for the almond milk, unsweetened to soak my cinnamon, cereal, walnuts and almonds in every morning. I left Greek nonfat yogurt behind a year ago. I still use some sharp cheddar and sour cream. I feel great, work daily and appreciate the video. Thanks Docs and Merry Christmas.

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Glad to hear it. You too! Merry Christmas!

[@billylain7456]

My thanks to both of you for taking your time to make the excellent videos that the average person can understand

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Our pleasure!

[@rickyelvis3215]

and the average person is sick and fat.. what the hell would a surgeon know.. they want your business!

[@davidcox2499]

Thanks, I have learned so much from you two this year. Moderation in everything EXCEPT Talking with Docs!

[@noniesundstrom119]

I became lactose intolerant 30 years ago, so stopped all dairy. I’m a small boned 77 year old (Scottish/Irish) woman and have never broken a bone and density tests show they aren’t showing osteoporosis yet. I have taken HRT for 25 years and would say I’m moderately active. Also stopped gluten at that time and have never smoked or drank. It has been difficult at times to stay the course, but I enjoy a lot of activities that don’t require food or drink. Another big thank you for all the work you put into providing these very informative videos. I’m Canadian and your info is in line with what I learned either the hard way or from the best doctors I’ve had.

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Why thank you!

[@connieespinosa3745]

Love this new podcast format. The colors, lighting are perfect. background really compliments both of you. So handsome talking docs!! Loyal viewer

[@californiacat9762]

I LOVE dairy products 🐄 🐮 ❤️

[@patticampbell6743]

I love you guys. I’ve have a dairy intolerance most of my adult life. Taken it out bit by bit. And I feel less inflamed. Less bloat. I can put in pizza once in awhile. But no more cheese on everything or cereal with milk in the morning. Just some ice cream and yogurt once in awhile as well. Love your approach to health and your way of giving out information. Keep on helping us!

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Doing our best to help people do their best!

[@shyamlynn243]

Thank you so much for pointing out the importance of examining the studies. All too often we blindly accept information as factual truth without doing our own due diligence. There are SO MANY bad, biased, misleading and incorrect 'studies 'out there and all too often we take the bait without question at our own detriment. Thank you Docs.

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Not to mention all of the bad opinions without any science behind them.

[@rosalynmoyle3766]

I think that the closing statement, that we are in charge of our own health is excellent. It is great the way you both present information and approach the review of medical papers. I used to have a consistent re-occurrence of sinus infections in my early years. I did consume a lot of dairy, not that it stopped my onset of osteoporosis. This you have explained today plus the genetic component. (which in my case i believe the main contributor as calcium tablets and exercise didn't help either. ) I think it was a pharmacist that suggested I reduce my dairy to help manage sinus and with a skin test for allergies I was positive for dairy amongst other things. So I eliminated almost. Since doing that , no sinus infections for over 30 plus years, touch the proverbial wood. When breast feeding second child they had blood stained mucous, I again was advised to eliminate all dairy. This I did in full as it involved more than I. The problem cleared up.Months later at a huge outdoor event, the danish ice-cream, just one I thought...well the sinus pain kicked in before I finished and I spent the next half hour with pain relief before I could move, it was intense pain. Occasionally I dip to ice-cream, I take an allergy tablet to decrease the response,my sinus complains (this is one reason why we are responsible for our own health); cheese does the same and I love certain cheeses; yogurt does not appear to disturb too much. So it comes back to the moderation . As I am plant based with the majority of the diet, thankfully some yummy alternatives out now. Now I dislike the taste of milk, it is weird flavour.

[@jannie690]

I really appreciate how you present this. Thinking about it, I likely consume too much dairy. I have arthritis and have had a hip and knee replaced successfully. You have given me a lot to think about.

[@redhen689]

I worked at a summer camp in Upstate NY in the 1970s. We used to get huge blocks of government cheese and tons of peanut products. That was back in the day when peanuts weren’t associated with so many allergies.

[@claudiakuhn7948]

I worked at a camp in NY state in the early 80’s and we also got government cheese, butter and peanuts. The peanuts came in those #10 cans.

[@editorick]

I'm in my mid 50's and drink about a gallon every 3-4 days and have since I was a child. I love milk more than any other drink.

[@Lazzar1958]

Same.

[@lesajackson3880]

My husband drinks more than that since a child and is healthy as a horse. He'll be 68 in June. He killed 4 deer drug them miles off of a mountain. I keep sayong you need to quit drinking milk. He always says I'm ready to go. Jesus will take me when HE wants and I'm not going to quit eating sugar and drinking milk! He eats real healthy between all of that. All in moderation except milk

[@judyheard6266]

Was a heavy milk and dairy consumer. I gave it up at 61: I'm now 68, vegan and believe this is healthier. Less inflammation. Plant based milks and ice cream are good.

[@sustainablelife1st]

milk is a food, not a drink.

[@gennisparry4352]

If you can get milk from the animal itself, then it’s good. We used to milk the cows and boil the milk add spices and sometimes sugar and I’m alive.

[@user-fk8rb8ue5h]

Bill Pearl, the famous bodybuilder used dairy as his main source of protein and lived to be 92.

[@2iggy_]

Congratulations. One person lived to 92. I remember watching a video and a 99 year old war vet said he smoked cigars everyday. I guess we all can do it since he lived so long, right?

[@yxnone9771]

Hi Docs, Thanks for another informative video served up with your lovely touches of humour. I am a vegetarian with IBS and I’m unable to tolerate some other sources of protein of plant origin so dairy forms an important of my protein intake. I drink lactose free milk sometimes to avoid the bloating caused by ordinary milk. I opt for semi skimmed milk with less saturated fat. I also use organic dairy.

[@vmitchelltaylor]

Have you tried drinking A2 milk?

[@plantbasedwithpeggy7682]

My husband was diagnosed with asthma 3 years before we cut out all meat and dairy. 6 months after cutting these foods out, he had an appointment with his pulmonologist. There was no longer any evidence of asthma in his lungs. The pulmonologist asked him what he had done different. He told him that he no longer ate meat or dairy. The pulmonologist said that most people do away with their asthma when they cut out dairy. It's interesting that they don't tell patients that. My husband also used to get sick with drainage, fever, chills and cough at least once a year, lasting for 2 to 3 months. He hasn't had that since we cut out meat products.

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Yes sinus infections and acne are also common

[@Riley512]

So he could safely add back the meat.

[@suzannebarwell9250]

Love how clear you both deliver the information and also that you have such a sensible approach! Thank you so much.

[@user-xh9bd7yx2g]

Thank you for your videos. So great to see the Medical Profession educating people about Nutrition. Re Dairy - for most of my life I've suffered from terrible pollen allergies. About 9 years ago I gave up dairy and the allergies improved no end. It has changed my life!

[@GrowingonVancouverIsland]

I've had sinus problems for a huge part of my life and consuming less milk seems to help that! Not sure why I don't think I'm allergic or lactose intolerant! Interesting correlation though

[@Sainbury]

I have severe osteoporosis in my hands. Dairy doesn't make my hands worse. Sugar is very inflammatory to my arthritis. I hadn't eaten dairy in years. But my primary physician recommended that I start putting it in my diet again. She said the calcium in dairy is more absorbable than taking it in pills.

[@coloradomark2159]

Organic grass fed, a massive difference in dairy products. Saturated fats?? Next time I'm in the Arctic I will tell the Inuit Eskimos to quit eating seal blubber as they may not live past 90.

[@janicevillandre9577]

Wishing you and yours a Merry Christmas and all the best for the New Year!!….love your videos.

[@juliochingaling5824]

Right on,thanx Docs. Merry Christmas and God bless you guys and your family.

[@dandyfi4076]

I was mostly off dairy for many years thinking it was not healthy for me until I realized what I had been consuming was mostly poor quality. I’ve since discovered organic A2 protein yogurt made from 100% grass fed cows and other high quality cheeses that have totally changed my perspective on dairy and have become a part of my healthy diet.

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Congrats

[@zanzibarandgrill6484]

Want to see me inflamed? Eat the last piece of cheese!

[@kunverjihirani276]

Why oh why would you want to consume milk forcefully extracted from other species?

[@corinnegraycar605]

I love your videos, docs! I went vegan 3 years ago due to finding out I had heart disease and high cholesterol at 52, which led to a CABG x 4 surgery during the pandemic. I easily transitioned into a no meat, no dairy, mainly plant based diet / vegan diet ... but ... occasionally I enjoy a slice of cheese. I also find eating out to be quite difficult and sometimes slip into vegetarian choices (which often means CHEESE). If that's the worst I do, I consider it a win.

[@juliebutler8241]

Your problem is more likely sugars and high carb foods.

[@teresatrigiani7838]

@@juliebutler8241 That's what I discovered.

[@WillChil466]

There is vegan cheese. Fine in cooking.

[@WillChil466]

Organic, grass fed has no hormones. U fail to mention that. U just cover the hormones.

[@djkenny1202]

@@juliebutler8241Dr. Berg says stuff like that. It’s a new Trendy thing. Dairy often causes issues for people. Most Asian people are very intolerant. I get terrible mucus reaction from dairy, sins problems, etc. I could eat quality pasta all day, no problems. But I choose ones from Italy. Being careful with gluten is important for many.

[@marinasmith4772]

My endocrinologist feels very strongly about getting enough dairy for bone density. I started drinking kefir and it has really increased my low calcium (due to missing parathyroid glands).

[@Nellis202]

Yay , hooray 😅 ! I love kefir too.

[@paulmaxwell8851]

I reluctantly gave up dairy last year when my PSA numbers were too high. My doctor pointed out that there are numerous studies that have shown quite convincingly that the high levels of estradiol and progesterone in dairy can cause BPH and an especially aggressive form of prostate cancer. I read the studies myself and well, that was that. I love butter and cheese, but I love being healthy more. I've been dairy free for about eight months now and my PSA number is back down where it should be. I've also noticed I don't get up to pee in the night as much any more, which is a bonus.

[@bettystevens5397]

Thanks for keeping it real!!

[@paulpower9331]

Thanks for your efforts. I find your material really helpful and enjoy you style and approach. What are the pros and cons of low fat versus whole milk?

[@ridinreiners]

I grew up on a dairy farm and the milk for the house was taken from the milk tank so we grew up drinking whole, unpasteurized milk. I’m sure most farm kids still do.

[@janiesoito4494]

Cold right out of the tank is the best. ❤

[@elainewhite359]

Great videos guys.I gave up dairy and meat away 11 years ago apart from the odd slice of cheese maybe half dozen slices a year which isn’t much.I used to get very sore knees and when I chopped out dairy no sore knees ever again so that’s been well worth it for me.I have loads of yes kale bok choy for my calcium and bones as I’m 70 and need to look after them 😊

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Thank you for sharing and congrats

[@motorcityjudy]

Thanks for all your videos. You’ve helped me through my tibial plateau and fibula fractures and gave me hope that I could get mobile, stronger, and I will eventually heal if I don’t rush myself.

[@TraceyMush]

I had migraines from the time I was 26 years old until I hit menopause in my early to mid 50s. After being vegetarian for many years I coincidentally went vegan during the time I was still suffering with perimenopause and of course still suffering with migraines. After about 6 months with a total absence of dairy products, no more migraines. I think it's possible it was a combination of the hormones in my body plus the hormones I was ingesting when I consumed the breast milk of cows. Remember everyone it's not that they add hormones into cow's milk, this is from A lactating mother who has recently given birth, the hormones are already in there! We are not meant to be consuming it and I believe that women especially are susceptible to those hormonal shifts.

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Your part is very well taken Glad that you were OK.

[@johnm111]

Enjoy you guys.. for myself, from my blood tests, increase in sugar intake leads to increase in tri's.. NOT intake of fats.. cholesterol was not impacted much either way.. when i was a newborn, i didnt take to formula so doc put me on regular milk and i was fine.. as an old guy, i still feel better with some milk as opposed to flaxmilk, almond milk, etc.. finally, vitamin K2 found in some cheeses is becoming well known as beneficial..

[@jamesec1949]

Hi Docs, this subject has come up previously. I mentioned then that I still drink a lot of milk (1%) at the age of 74. Dr. Zalzal responded with milk is for baby cows. Have loved milk since I can remember. Thankfully not lactose intolerant. I go through a gallon every 8-10 days. Can’t help it. Beats drinking most everything else. Even water because unless I’m very thirsty I sometimes have a hard time getting water down. Besides, who doesn’t drink milk with PB&J sandwiches? Moo. 🙋‍♂️ Oh, and Merry Christmas Docs.

[@drunkvegangal8089]

I don't drink milk with PBJ. Haven't had any 'dairy' in decades. Your excuse to drink the breast milk from another species is the only statement I cannot mount an argument against; "I am a hedonist and don't care about the suffering and slaughter of animals or the destruction of our environment cause I love (cow's?) milk. My tatse buds trump all other objections."

[@melindagarde6344]

I make my own full fat greek yogurt from Fairlife every week. I'm 58 yr and menopause and feel great.

[@derekcrymble9085]

Also , NEVER consume "raw" dairy products of any kind .

[@SandraHof]

Thank you for the balanced approach to this subject! I eliminated dairy for a few years after doing the AIP Diet, as it appeared to be the cause of a specfic problem. But reintroduced it in recent months and I seem to be ok with it now. I hope that continues.

[@garlandstyle5797]

Why reintroduce something that was bad for you? Doesn't make sense.

[@SandraHof]

@@garlandstyle5797 Because of my Hashimoto’s Disease and numerous allergies, including a substance in over 25,000 plants, I already have to eliminate many foods. Sometimes after eliminating something for awhile, such as I had to do with eggs, I am able to reintroduce it as long as I don’t overdo it. Eliminating an entire food group such as dairy is a huge deal. Because of my Hashimoto’s I cannot eat anything with gluten. My intestines cannot handle it. So where I can possibly reintroduce something, I will. It isn’t going to kill me if I eat some dairy. It is the casein in the dairy that is a problem for Hashimoto’s. Different dairy items have varying amounts of that protein depending on its fat content. So for me, it was worth trying to reintroduce it and see if I could tolerate it. I did a risk-benefit analysis and made a personal decision for my body and health.

[@garlandstyle5797]

@@SandraHof Oh man. So sorry about having allergies, I can't imagine how difficult that must be. Beef & Milk kill my stomach, so I've quit eating meat except for a fried chicken dinner (treat) once a month. Very little dairy and use Oat or Almond Milk. The wife gave up Milk too but eats a Standard American Diet, so I cook for her and then me. LOL I sure hope you get much better in the future. Our granddaughter had allergies to Soy as a young kid, but has grown out of it now. Good luck. :)

[@SandraHof]

@@garlandstyle5797 Thank you for your kind words! Sorry to hear you have some dietary restrictions as well. After experiencing the horrible eczema and now having numerous allergies in my later years, my heart really goes out to youngs ones, like your granddaughter, who are affected by these things. At least the first 50 some years of my life I could eat and drink what I wanted. But these young ones don’t fully get to enjoy some things because of their allergies and skin rashes. I am 68 years old. So I can’t complain. I recently watched a video on Hashimoto’s by a doctor. He strongly recommended avoiding all gluten and all dairy. I have been off gluten for years, but cheated some in October and November. My TSH in December was really high, which is not good. I got it back down by increasing my thyroid hormone and behaving with the gluten. The endocrinologist confirmed my suspicion that it was probably the gluten intake that caused it. After watching that doctor’s video, I am going to cut back on my dairy intake to just cream in my morning espresso. No more cheese or yogurt.

[@BionicMilkaholic]

I'm a milkoholic! Dairy helps me feel my best mentally and physically.

[@Dawna-gp1zk]

Female senior here. I enjoy 1% cottage cheese with fruit, skim milk in tea or with oatmeal, shredded cheese on pizza ... no issues and appreciate the calcium.

[@moniquehuchet3646]

I am 86 years old. I stop drinking milk at 18 months old growing up in France , was given mineral supplements in childhood . But I eat cheese, daily cheese, prefer goat cheese, butter but not cream or yaourt. Thank you for giving us a Canadian perspective. I will experiment to see if iit affects my inflammation episodes

[@chrisstepleton4761]

I thought I had IBD most of my life, but at 70, I went whole food plant based, and my problem went away. My doctor said I was lactose intolerant. The best thing that came out of it was my cholestrol went back to normal. No longer miss it.

[@Nellis202]

Well what did you expect the doctor to tell you. Seems you need a new doctor.

[@chrisstepleton4761]

@@Nellis202 Nope. I didn't have the same doctor for 70 years. Dairy was not good for me. I am fine and my present doctor is great.

[@kurt1391]

Cholesterol levels, per se, don't mean a thing. Even LDL levels alone are meaningless without knowing which components of the LDL are high. There are studies which show that low LDL-C levels ( < 90 mg/dL) are strongly associated with increased mortality. All things considered, I'd rather have "high" cholesterol than low.

[@Ratlins9]

Thank you both for this informative video. I was trying to avoid snacks with lots of carbs so I’ve been eating cheese sticks. I walk daily but my arthritis in my knee flared up recently. Don’t know if there’s a connection but I will switch to nuts for a snack and see if there’s a change.

[@gordonwedman3179]

I'm 73 and I still like milk. Switched from regular homogenized to 2% a long time ago. Drinking less these days as my blood potassium is a little high and milk is high in potassium. I like cheese as well.

[@HamidA-to8vy]

There are many questions, for example: - What can dairy products do for someone who already has inflammation? which is not rare. I am learning that even acne can be a form of inflammation. What is the negative impact of cutting dairy? Keeping in mind that it is very difficult to eat healthy due to the lifestyle we have stuck in, but since childhood we are raised to drink a glass of milk every morning and it is easier to maintain this habit. 3- is not good idea to consume milk with its good bacteria at least. yogurt. Thank you for taking the time to run the show, it is an educational and valuable time for us.

[@beepbeepnj2658]

"A dietary pattern preferring dairy products was associated with increased survival in Tokyo-area centenarians." 2003 article title: Dietary patterns and further survival in Japanese centenarians. Good quality dairy like they have in Japan is a natural source of Vitamin A1, B12, K2, Iodine, C15:0, Sphingolipids, Omega 7 and Carnosine, all 8 which destroy cancer cells and protect the heart. Plant based industrial factory milks have none of those natural 8 nutrients which is why industrial plant milk is the worst for your health and the worst for the environment.

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Thanks for sharing that one paper. Interesting it is estimated that 90 percent of Japanese people today are lactose intolerant. There is limited evidence to support any health benefits of cow milk in humans. We are not big advocates of plant milk. The only reason it is even an industry is because people were convinced that they needed to drink milk in the first place. Drink water.

[@beepbeepnj2658]

@@TalkingWithDocs No, it is not one paper as if you have a RD degree you will see the 125 million population of Japan has the highest life expectancy, the highest egg consumption rate, the highest IQ and one of the lowest cancer and obesity rates in the world and the Japan school lunch system serves whole milk every day to every student so your 90 percent is 100% wrong.

[@JBoy340a]

I am surprised by reference to Japanese people consuming lactose beyond childhood. Being Japanese most of my peers were like me and strongly lactose intolerant by their teens. And dairy is not something you find in traditional Japanese diet which is biased toward fish over beef, soy based foods, lots of vegetables, and of course rice,

[@beepbeepnj2658]

@@JBoy340a Why don't you write to the author of the paper and ask them if 90% of Japanese are lactose intolerant why do they serve all school kids whole milk? And why did longevity expert Dr. Shigeaki Hinohara who lived to 105 and Dr. Fred Kummerow, who lived to age 102 and Dr. Zheng Ji age 110, and Dr. Bessie Delany age 104, and Manohar Aich 1952 Mr. Universe, age 104, all these people from different parts of the world consumed some type of dairy every day.

[@rorymacintosh6691]

You guys rock, thanks! So balanced and considered. I love love love dairy - cheese sandwiches, macaroni and cheese, fondue, sour cream as a sauce base, yoghurt smoothies, milk with cookies and best of all, my favourite food in the world - ice cream. Shame about the ice cream in particular, I really try to limit it to special occasions… sigh.

[@jaysilverheals4445]

I have a surprise for you once you get older past 40 or so you wont be able to eat as much as you want of anything

[@darlenericotta7550]

I Have drank dairy all my life. I love it. The area I live has local dairy farms. Great milk and other products! Thank you for your videos Docs! Happy NewYear and love you Docs! ❤❤

[@bigdog8679]

Not all people can eat dairy. That doesn’t mean it’s bad. It’s just bad for some people.

[@thejollygreendragon8394]

Thats correct, but you will see some here saying low fat dairy is bad, aminal farming is bad, breathing is bad It certinly brings them out 😊

[@cf2993]

Cheesecake is my favorite. 6 months ago I cut out dairy, drastically cut down on carbs, changed eating habits, and now feel healthier than I can ever remember. Also, cut out sugar. Thanks for your channel and videos. They are informative

[@hanko5750]

Its the sugar ... ;)

[@karphin1]

I have always been allergic to milk, and other cow productions. But for years I ate cheese, yogurt, ice cream, etc. bc I loved them! But as my arthritis became worse, I decided to leave dairy and wheat out of my diet. It made a difference! I was having pain in joints, and after I gave up dairy and wheat. It definitely affects my joints, so it does cause inflammation in my body. I also get allergic reactions, stuffiness and asthma. So, I avoid it like the plague.

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Yes! Thanks for sharing

[@Krunch2020]

What’s left to eat? Kale? That’s fodder. I guess there are hot dogs.

[@lenakohl2339]

​@@Krunch2020 there are dairy-free alternatives based on nuts, oats, soy. And there is a huge variaty of vegetables and legumes.

[@misst.e.a.187]

American dairy, maybe; but not in European dairy. American food's excessively adulterated

[@xjet]

I've always been a huge dairy fan. I'm 71 and live on low-fat Greek yoghurt as well as hi-protein low-fat milk and tasty cheddar cheese. I can still do 40 push-ups without a pause, 10 pull-ups and 15 weighted dips with 50lbs in a backpack -- plus I walk about 8 miles a day. I guess that dairy can't be all bad.

[@JimAllen-Persona]

I have a guideline: We didn’t evolve our way to the top of the food chain by avoiding meat, dairy, fruit and vegetables. Try to keep a balance unless you have a known issue. Everyone’s health is different and YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN HEALTH!!! 😂😂😂

[@TheShepdawg9]

I'm not too sure our ancestors ate dairy...

[@gabrielbarrantes6946]

​@@TheShepdawg9they certainly didn't eat vegetables

[@TheShepdawg9]

@@gabrielbarrantes6946 they probably did. A fair few of them anyway

[@TheKyPerson]

I'm 73. I've been eating or drinking dairy since the day I was born. I love it. Milk, butter, cheese, yogurt - it's all good.

[@coloradomark2159]

Eating my 100 % grass fed cheese as I watch this. Grass fed the only way.

[@andreamoore367]

I live on it.

[@georgelee1181]

Nothing good about Dairy Dairy Council of California😂😂😂😅

[@MrJdebest]

Same. No cancer, no heart disease, no high blood pressure, no diabetes. Why change ?

[@gennisparry4352]

@@MrJdebestNot yet, so give thanks!

[@billyhank488]

Thanks for all the great information you two present.

[@JFlower7]

I am 71, drink milk everyday, eat cheese and butter . As a youngster, the farm gave us the best, now I buy organic. My relatives live a long time, in fact we just celebrated my aunt's 99th birthday. I do buy A2 organic milk for those who have issues with milk.

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Thanks for sharing

[@LisaMurphy]

Been drinking one glass of whole milk (usually organic) my whole life. Never bothered me at all and I crave it. Best thing is I am 69 years old and I have 100% bone density. My height is precisely as it always was 5' 7 1/8th" while most women my age have lost 1.5 inches of height. My ancesters are from N.England and Ireland. The whole milk has not been fattening for me. I weigh 112, the same as when I was 18.

[@recurvearcher6542]

Thank you Docs, Informative, intuitive, entertaining and always valuable. In moderation the key, I grew up in a high dairy producing country NZ ,milk, cheese, butter, cream, etc Definitely not moderation, at 72 and 3 stents later I consider myself lucky to have lived through it. Better late than never, as docs suggest balanced moderation of all food groups.

[@gennisparry4352]

Doesn’t have to happen to everyone.

[@drbettyschueler3235]

My ancestors came from Western Europe and I have no problem with dairy products. In fact, my body has problems if I don't consume dairy products. For example, at 80, I have a hard time falling asleep unless I have a piece of bread with butter on it about a half hour before bedtime. Since this isn't great for weight loss, I've tried over and over to eliminate eating before bed but it is a hopeless case. I either give in, and have the bread and butter, or I will be up until 4am. I had insomnia for years before accidentally discovering bread and butter helped me fall asleep and stay asleep. I use hormone-and-antibiotic-free dairy products to minimize the health risks of dairy.

[@lindakurman8642]

We'll never had issues all my life. I'm 69. A couple of years ago started having IBS issues. My GI doc confirmed this. Recently, about a year ago, started vomiting after eating cottage cheese or yogurt. So, stopped all dairy and now feel much better. I also have RA , osteoarthritis, and fibromyalgia per my Rhumatolagist. I have been fine for weeks now. Well yesterday I tried to see what would happen with a bit of cheese in a sandwich and birthday cake with buttercream. All day today had stomach discomfort. Drank peppermint tea which eased the discomfort away. Works great! Very difficult to eat foods to aide in no dairy, good for IBS and anti inflammatory! I use almond milk and vegan cheeses which work well. As a side note I'm getting knee replacement in February. Scary. But it's gotta be better eventually than not being able to walk and no cardio. Thank you for all you both have been teaching me. Your great.

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Thanks so much and glad to hear you got it all figured out. Good luck in February. You've got this!

[@tedquaker954]

Merry Christmas!!

[@metchosinite]

After talking to Dr. Hoffer here in Victoria BC about 30 years ago, I have to agree with him in his saying cows milk is not for humans, it is for calves. Makes sense. I don’t eat an dairy.

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Yes it does make sense. But we have been told for decades to drink our milk. Hard to change that. Will typically take 2-3 generations

[@Silvia-pv1ls]

A few years ago I did an elimination diet to test for suspected gluten intolerance. I found that I am moderately intolerant to gluten, but to my complete surprise discovered that I am severely intolerant to dairy. I completely abstained from gluten and dairy and repeated the elimination diet one year later. No change, same result. A second year later, the diet was repeated. That time, I found that the gluten intolerance had diminished, but dairy was still causing joint pains. Now I eat a small amount of gluten and only have two dessert spoons each of homemade Lactobacillus reuterii and homemade ordinary low fat yoghurt in my breakfast muesli, which is also homemade. Apart from that I eat a 95% whole food plant based diet, and at age 75 have excellent health, excellent bone density, good vigour, good flexibility, and good strength. P.S.: A great source of protein for me are different pulses (beans and lentils).

[@raydecampos7327]

L o v e dairy! …can’t tolerate it 😢

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Yeah the fat and sugar make it delicious but most can't tolerate it

[@carpenterAF-dz2zq]

Since I was born I could never digest anything dairy or meats. Prostate issues now have bard me from caffeine . Water and tea only (black / turmeric/ green.)

[@marysinclair1214]

I was always full of mucus, especially in the mornings. I gave up milk many years ago. I also gave up cheese. What a difference. I will never go back. I personally, believe dairy is not good for me. I do eat plain yogurt on occasion.

[@gaylefraser5405]

Always have a “proud Canadian” moment while watching your videos. Straight forward science based info at its best. Presented in a charming way by 2 professionals, who respect one another. Talking with Docs is my go to source for medical info online. Thank you. I’m vegetarian and eat some dairy ( love plain yogurt and aged cheese) Merry Christmas to you and your families!

[@romanf7316]

These doctors are Canadian?

[@gregknipe8772]

we Americans love and cherish our proximity to you Wiley Canadians.

[@romanf7316]

@@gregknipe8772 as do we Canadians towards our sisters and brothers in the good ole US of A. It's sad what 911 did to our border relations.

[@j.cassavoy4661]

#dairyisscary I haven't consumed any dairy since I learned the cruelty to the animals and they all end up at slaughter house when they can't make money anymore. It's easy these days to avoid it and I feel so much better.

[@j.g.8494]

I got the same impression about these two doctors: "presented in a CHARMING way by 2 professionals, who respect one another." (I'm from Malta, and I lived in Toronto for 20 years. Just like you, I'm vegetarian and eat some dairy (love plain yogurt and some cheese.) The best yogurt I ever had was the smooth-as-silk "Astro" yogurt, available in Canada.)

[@carlabari9825]

Agreed. Everything in moderation.

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Mostly. Wouldn't say that for cigarettes. Probably need to drink less alcohol than moderation. Plus certain foods. But we digress.

[@JaniceDAgostino]

The type of dairy mattered for me. Cheese and yoghurt are fine but milk was not.

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Yes this is a common experience

[@rod3134]

I really liked dairy. I turned 50, and my body just REBELLED against ANY dairy!!! I thought I blew a disk in my back. The doctor realized that I had become lactose intolerant. I miss cheese, milk, pizza, chocolate milk, etc. Unless I want to end up not being able to walk, I had to give up dairy 😢😫

[@billhamilton2366]

Hey Youz Guyz..... I am a 73 yr old white male born and raised in Toronto living in Oshawa and almost my entire life my breakfast of choice is a cold breakfast cereal with multigrain composition (none of those sugary kids brands) with 2% skim milk. I also drink gallons of the stuff every year and have never had an issue. However trying to find a surgeon to fix a Jones fracture in a timely fashion is another matter.

[@staceynoffke]

I'm from Wisconsin. I love milk even though I don't drink much of it lately. I am not lactose-intolerant. The majority of my very large family were farmers as I was growing up. It's not as profitable now so many have retired from farming.

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Yes. Sold the land to real estate developers. Same is happening here in Canada

[@gregbrooks7233]

Interesting and fair discussion. I agree that there is a general sense that dairy is "good" from a protein and calcium sense and "bad" from a fat sense. In all cases, being aware of your own likes, dislikes, health needs, and health challenges is most important when making food choices.

[@pininfarinarossa8112]

11:06 - hormones in diary

[@downhill64]

And I thought the Muppet show had finished, only thing missing was Kermit the frog and miss piggy 😅

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Classic

[@meteor1237]

I’m 71 in great overall health. Drink a glass of whole milk every morning never issues. Who knows?

[@TalkingWithDocs]

There you go. There are exceptions to every rule. Glad it's working for you

[@iedsmith]

I love you two guys Thanks for your good advice. Merry Christmas

[@TalkingWithDocs]

Merry Christmas to you too!

[@charleslindsey6789]

I went to WFPB in January this year and have no desire to go back. I'm 78 now.

[@chrisstepleton4761]

Fantastic! I did the same thing when I was 70. I am now 74. 5:26

[@someguy2135]

Kudos! Purely plant based diet for about 7 years, and I eat mostly Whole Food Plant Based.

[@someguy2135]

@@chrisstepleton4761 Kudos! Ask any vegan and we will tell you that we wished that we had made the change sooner. I will! I switched around the age of 60. Better late than never!

[@someguy2135]

My channel includes a description of why I went fully plant based, and also vegan.

[@user-xm3nq7nn7o]

You misspelled "intolerance" on your wtiting board. Was that just a test to see if we're paying attention, or is it a Canadian thing?

[@JohnPMiller]

I also can't tolerete spelling mistakes.😉

[@egalitarian-rex]

A very informative talk, Doctors. Thank you

[@andybunn7578]

Merry Christmas to both of you....always enjoy your videos.👋🥰🎅🤶

[@LA70S]

My husband is in his 80s. He has been a milk drinker all his life. We eat cheese, drink milk, eggs, cream cheese, sour cream, sour cream, etc. Everything in moderation.

[@rodmagee7895]

Great vid on dairy. I used to eat a lot of cheese, feta (Dairy) and cheddar pounds of it a month. Cream, milk, yogurts etc. as well. I'm 70, I started having prostate issues, saw the Doc, blood screen, prostate screen yada yada. Surprise surprise, high cholesterol, medium risk. Needless to say I quit my daily dairy routine, prostate issues went away. I tried statins for 2 months, quit them due to them making me feel like an old man. I only consume a controlled amount of cholesterol now. New blood screen in May.

[@someguy2135]

Cheese is the top source of saturated fat in the American diet. Try ground flax for your prostate. Increasing your fiber might also help you with your cholesterol. The above channel has a video about how to lower your cholesterol.

[@rodmagee7895]

@@someguy2135 Thanks for your reply. I no longer have problems with my prostrate since quitting dairy. No problems keeping the other end functioning, plenty of fiber.

[@someguy2135]

@@rodmagee7895 Glad to hear about your prostate problems being a thing of the past. Be sure to drink plenty of extra water to compensate for all that fiber. As long as you do that, a high fiber diet is very beneficial!

[@ChrisTopher-vs9zz]

LOVE your channel and very glad to see it is GROWING FAST! ... Saw an orthopedic surgeon today and he says i need a TOTAL HIP REPLACEMENT ... I don't trust Dr. Bozo ... Wish you guys were closer to where I live! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!