Massad Ayoob: Three reasons why you need to carry extra ammo and magazines - Critical Mas Episode 28

A gun without spare ammunition is a temporary gun. As a top firearms instructor, Massad Ayoob knows all the defensive gun usage and gun retention facts. Mas gives three reasons that you should carry spare ammo and magazines.
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ABOUT MASSAD AYOOB:
Massad Ayoob has been handgun editor of GUNS magazine and law enforcement columnist for AMERICAN HANDGUNNER since the 1970s and has published thousands of articles in gun magazines, martial arts publications, and law enforcement journals. He is the author of some twenty books on firearms, self-defense, and related topics, including “In the Gravest Extreme” and “Deadly Force,” widely considered to be authoritative texts on the topic of the use of lethal force.
The winner of the Outstanding American Handgunner of the Year Award in 1998, Mas has won several states and regional handgun shooting championships. Ayoob was the first person to earn the title of Five Gun Master in the International Defensive Pistol Association. He is the current President of the Second Amendment Foundation. He served 19 years as chair of the Firearms Committee of the American Society of Law Enforcement Trainers, and several years as a member of the Advisory Board of the International Law Enforcement Educators and Trainers Association. In addition to teaching for those groups, he has also taught
for the International Association of Law Enforcement Firearms Instructors and the International Homicide Investigators seminars.
Mas has received judicial recognition as an expert witness for the courts in weapons and shooting cases since 1979, and served as a fully sworn and empowered, part-time police officer for 43 years, mostly at supervisor rank. Ayoob founded the Lethal Force Institute in 1981 and served as its director until 2009, and now trains through Massad Ayoob Group. He has
appeared on CLE-TV delivering continuing legal education for attorneys, through the American Law Institute and American Bar Association, and has been retained to train attorneys to handle deadly force cases through the Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network. Ayoob served for two
years as co-vice chair of the Forensic Evidence Committee of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers. He also appeared in each episode of Personal Defense TV (Sportsman’s Channel).
0:00 - Spare Magazines
0:55 - Isn't 15+1 Enough?
1:20 - Defensive Gun Use
2:05 - Tom Givens' Research
2:40 - Lance Thomas
3:40 - Magazine Failure
4:30 - Gun Retention
5:55 - Prepare for the Worst
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[@ASPextra]

Funny, I just did a video on this. I respect Mas highly, but think he is coming at this from his experience as LE not as a private citizen.

[@DanUtley]

Funny, I just watched your video yesterday! I was surprised by the number of people who commented that they carry MULTIPLE spare magazines as civilians.

[@gowilsoncombat]

Good timing John. We'll have to see the viewers think.

[@robertchute1984]

@@gowilsoncombat I believe it was Evan Marshall who was the person I picked it up from when he said never leave cover without a fully charged weapon. How can you do that without a spare mag.

[@usmcvet0313]

Having a backup mag is always a good thing.

[@nicholashahn3476]

John, what would you do if your baseplate TORE off after catching on something and spilled all the rounds mid or prior to gunfight? Also what about what Mas said about a close up fight where the attacker wrestles for your gun and ejects the mag even on accident given the thumb placement Mas showed us?

[@craigt5990]

In my below average tour in Vietnam (I was wounded) I learned two things. 1, you can’t carry too much ammo and 2, you can’t carry too much water.

[@LuckyCharms777]

Yep, hikers are regularly found in dire circumstances from carrying too little water.

[@frankbarbagallo9399]

Thanks for your service and welcome home soldier!

[@shadowgarr7649]

Parallels my thought when deployed.

[@gregwood4631]

@@shadowgarr7649 no

[@albertgrant1017]

Well Stated !

[@latigomorgan]

Something Clint Smith said that has always stuck with me: "Nobody every complained about having too much ammo after being in a firefight." I'd rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.

[@chrisperrien7055]

Civilians don't get paid to be in a "fire-fight", like soldiers or cops. If you're a civilian , best to avoid them as you ain't getting paid to do so ;)

[@chrisperrien7055]

@@rustyhighlander786 basically , Nobody gets paid to be a hero, but some people are getting paid to be there.

[@seananastasion4297]

Well I'm a civilian and even if I'm not getting paid, I'm going to shoot back to save my family until I no longer can.

[@NoOdL3z18]

@@chrisperrien7055 That's a moral vs tactical dilemma. It's very honorable, but also equally as dangerous. I will never completely discourage people from trying to save others as long as they are aware of the possible repercussions.

[@h.g.higgins4521]

Say Clint I've said this many times.If some one was injured or killed all of us would pick up a bandler of 6 20 round magizines. As you say Ammo in a fire fight goes extremely fast.Thats why I've seen some officers have 4 extra magizines.My Ruger 45 has no safety and I like it that way.Another thing of great importance is always keep a round in the chamber and clean and oil it but no oil on bullets or magizines. Stretch the magizines ever so often.

[@reasonablenamehere]

The older Massad gets, the more I believe he is turning into Obi-Wan Kenobi.

[@Bob-ub4gl]

Definitely a "descendant," most likely... lol

[@danzigmcnaniel5226]

Ayoobi wan kenobi

[@conqueringlion420]

The older he gets the faster I have to playback his videos

[@Coffee1776]

He just needs the jedi cloak!

[@ACommenterOnYouTube]

This is common sense, nothing wise in his comment. Everyone SHOULD know this material. If anyone had any brain power would know that when that situation happens, you need to have your weapon working 100% and have spare ammo JUST in case. Do you leave your house to drive 600 miles and leave your phone, your $$, your ID at home and only have 1/4 tank of gas .... Some IDIOTS do and wonder why they are left stranded because they don't have any F'ing sense or brain power.

[@bhoward9378]

Reason 3-- a struggle for retention and a subsequent dropped mag-- had never occurred to me. That's why I think Mas Ayoob's advice is so valuable. Thanks!

[@bobjones-bt9bh]

consider euro-style mag releases. have seen/heard of multiple situations where magazines were dropped with american button releases accidentally, nearly proving fatal

[@Mrjackietreehorn]

No shit right? Man it hit me like a freight train when he said it. I carry an extra mag always but that had never occurred to me as a possible problem and solution!

[@getthegoons]

Watched a police shooting the other day. Cop accidentally released a half full magazine, emptied a second, I think the third either failed or maybe he emptied it, he had to leave cover to grab that half full mag to stay in the fight, and I'll bet anything he was screaming internally that whole time.

[@Frankie5Angels150]

@@getthegoons We believe you. 😳

[@Frankie5Angels150]

If you’re already wrestling to keep someone from taking your gun, you’re already in deep 💩.

[@jameshuggins4300]

I always carry a spare mag. The only reason I watched this is because Mas is always worth learning from.

[@markiefufu]

I carry 2 spare mags on my weak side in a mag holster. That gives me 52 rounds (1 of them being in the chamber).

[@Horror_Film_Aficionado]

I carry 10 spare glock 17 17 round mags in each cargo pocket. along with 2 glock 17s Inside the waste band holster. I live in a war zone democratic run city and the DA and police are useless. people have been getting robbed at gun point and home break-ins by multiple armed intruders and I feel safer carry what I carry.

[@markiefufu]

@@Horror_Film_Aficionado holy crap Al! I don't even own that many magazines 🤣. Gonna have to go buy more.

[@adamcasas6519]

@@Horror_Film_Aficionado damn! Where you live at brother? I carry 10 round 1911 and one extra mag most times if not that i carry hk p30 with an extra mag. Those are my carry guns.

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

Extra mags or gear can also "balance" out your belt, weight.

[@runlevelone]

As the old saying goes "better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it." I always appreciate your insights Mr. Ayoob.

[@ScrappyXGC]

No joke, I don't want to need it again for the rest of my life. Hella thing.

[@moreme40]

That was my high school motto regarding condoms 😊

[@anraegodley-cooper6321]

NAILED IT

[@searchBLOC941]

Two is one, and one is none. I carry spare mags, and a backup with spare mags.

[@1apart517]

That is correct.

[@ibbylancaster8981]

I like the way that you frame a pistol as a defensive tool. My Dad(RIP) gave me a great piece of advice that I have heard in the heat of a particular moment,”if you have to pull your pistol, you’d better make damn sure that you are justified, otherwise, you will have a long time in a small space to think about it”. Some of the most sage advice I’ve ever been given. Much love to you all from North Carolina.

[@craigwilliams7635]

That is a great piece of advice well worded!

[@MattC-ly9lr]

I do carry spare mag but didn’t consider the attacker releasing the mag, wow thanks for the education as always great video!👍👍

[@ScrappyXGC]

Learn how to jam your pistol and have the GTFO knife. If you or other don't know Get The F' Off, it's on your off hand side, you snatch it and cause pain. Then you clear your sidearm.

[@ACommenterOnYouTube]

well if you do as the movies do and allow them to get that close then yes you will have that encounter, but thats all on you. If you give a warning and they proceed, pull the trigger, dont allow them to get close, dont allow that situation to happen

[@edb3877]

@@ACommenterOnKZbin Agreed. Most police training teaches that the officer can be in danger any time an assailant gets within 21 feet of him or her. This is usually stated in terms of an attacker armed with a knife but it also works for those who are young, strong, and aggressive. Also, not mentioned is that some pistols will not fire if there is no magazine in the gun. This means that you don't even have 1 in the spout to rely on. Your 16 shot just went to 1 shot to no shot and it can happen in an instant.

[@ralphholiman7401]

As a law enforcement officer, I lost the magazine from my pistol in two different incidents. The first time was exiting my vehicle to arrest a subject in a buy-bust drug deal, and seeing the magazine fly out of my Beretta 92 as I drew it from my holster. Luckily I had a spare and just stuck it in instead of looking around the ground for the one that I lost. The second time, I was in a fight on the ground with a, a Crip gangster. When I finally got the handcuffs on him, I realized that the magazine had come out of my Glock 19 at some point during the fight. If it would have been necessary to use it after that point, I would have been really glad that I did have a spare magazine on me that day, too.

[@uroskecman8599]

It cost me nothing to carry extra mags but it could cost me life if I dont

[@anthonyboatright6960]

Well Said!

[@Asidebar]

DITTO.

[@elliotdryden7560]

My late father taught me to always have at least one reload with my carry rig. He was of the "Son, you never want to have one of ANYTHING" mindset.

[@presidenttnediserp428]

I carry no less than two with no need for mag carriers. I require my pants and shorts to come with more pockets than average. EDC is more important than most care to realize.

[@LucidDreamer54321]

I disagree with your father. One wife is more than enough.

[@thatkajunguy8029]

Your father sounds like a smart man

[@MrVinicios01]

@@LucidDreamer54321 But every man gotta have his sidechick.

[@wtfdtreats]

two is one and one is none, eh?

[@Katana_Kid]

Whenever I'm out and about, I typically carry pepper spray, a knife (or two), and a subcompact handgun. Thanks to your video, Mas, I'll now carry an extra magazine as well.

[@stevefeeser1891]

Also, magazines can break. I was picking up something that fell on the floor and rolled under the table. I was carrying a Kahr K9 in a IWB holster behind my strong side hip. When I stood up the base plate of the magazine caught on the edge of the table and was sheared off. The spring, follower and several rounds spilled onto the floor. I've heard of this happening to other people too.

[@HarryKuloh]

Ever thinking of carrying a Kahr, was the first mistake

[@marcobarrueta3409]

Try not carrying grandpa guns

[@comanchedase]

It happend to Clint too,when he was a cop he jumped out of the cruiser and his mag goy stuck on the seat belt and it busted just like you said. His 1911 had but one shot.

[@quattrosport2860]

Imagine in public in ca 💀

[@smal1393]

Every time I listen to this man speak, I learn. Thank you Massad Ayoob & Wilson Combat.

[@RTS907]

Every time as well!

[@adirondacker007]

When I was a teenager, growing up in a rural area, I had built a range about 75 yards from the house. Whenever I came back from shooting, I always kept a bit of ammunition in reserve. My reason was to maintain possession of the weapon or weapons. I knew full well that the odds of someone trying to take them were infinitesimally small, but I never liked to gamble.

[@martyyoung3611]

Whenever my friends and I went shooting I ALWAYS kept a handgun on me that was never revealed. I ALWAYS kept extra ammo for the trip home. Best to be prepared. I've taught the same thing to my kids.

[@jasonpadula4916]

Similar situation, but I carry a concealed handgun even while on my personal range in the middle pf nowhere.

[@davidb9323]

And I thought I was the only one thinking like this at the out door range all alone

[@johnnymouse886]

go get a life snowwhite

[@Winchester1973]

Precaution is more valuable than regret!

[@getthegoons]

One of my favorite quotes, Evil can never be dead enough. It takes as many shots as it takes, you want that many bullets on hand.

[@phil20_20]

Combat Medic (Delisted): Before the generals outlaw all semantics, let me say that, all weapons are weapons of war. If you are [assaulted], you are at war. You'll be wanting ammo. 🤨 Thanks for listening. Great work you guys! Great Channel! Thanks

[@oldcop18]

I had to reload under fire trying to arrest armed robbery suspects in ‘74 and carry a reload in retirement as a result of that experience.

[@sergeantc4073]

Glad you are around. God Bless

[@oldcop18]

@@sergeantc4073 Thank you, I was VERY lucky that night.

[@tieroneactual2228]

Were you using a revolver with Speed Loaders or the old style dump pouches? Some of the guys even then had the “speed strips” with 6 rounds lined up in a row. I’ve seen a couple of the old timers use those very proficiently! And they were great FTO’s to learn from as well!

[@ScrappyXGC]

Wow, before I was born my dad as a copper carried 12 extra rounds, and there was a full box in his trunk. Now around here all deputies and coppers carry MINIMUM two spare mags. Last trooper I saw with a revolver had 4 speed loader carriers. Haven't seen anyone carrying a revolver for duty in probably a decade.

[@jasonlommen4769]

@@ScrappyXGC My pop was a state trooper in MT from 72-92’ His sidearm was a .357 smith. He carried 2 speed loaders. A 12 gauge in the front seat on a vertical rack and a 30/30 in the truck. He had a whole cardboard box filled with extra Ammo. I think he dispatched more injured game than bad guys, ha! He’s 70 now and can still shoot the ass off a nat!

[@TheWhiteboy40]

Spare tire, vehicle insurance, first aid kit = the same in my book as carrying a spare magazine. It's just smart on the practical since of things you should do.

[@DDVgamingpros]

don't forget spare gun. yes cause if you don't wanna waste time reloading you whip out a 2nd gun and dual wield that shit! if your only using handguns you can easily utilize 2 handguns in case assailant goes for gun 1.

[@flushtheglobalists7962]

I remember this quote from Alien vs Predator " Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it."

[@TUKByV]

@@DDVgamingpros old timers called that a "New York Reload". From the days when all cops carried revolvers.

[@jctedsap]

Fire extinguisher which can be a self defense weapon as well. Either blasting them with it or clubbing them with it.

[@chrisperrien7055]

Best item for a first aid kit in a car , is a roll of paper towels. Believe me , I know . BTDT

[@The_Assassin_of_The_Gray]

"Man, I am so *_BUMMED_* we were lugging all this ammo around all over the place!" - *_NO_* American Infantryman in the aftermath of any firefight

[@chrisperrien7055]

Smart guys ride tanks. Smarter guys drive them.

[@LuckyCharms777]

@@chrisperrien7055 Even smarter guys shoot them with an RPG.

[@podvig]

Except civilians aren’t infantrymen. At least make good analogies

[@metallkopf988]

It's better to be a warrior in a garden, than a gardener in a war. Though it is by no means necessary to gear up as if you want to turn the garden into a warzone.

[@gusr6]

@@metallkopf988 comment of the day

[@BetaBuxDelux]

Mag failure or the magazine getting released in a struggle were the exact reasons i was thinking. Thank you!

[@Defender78]

It's also likely that a criminal would be able to grab the slide in front end of a pistol and wrench it away from you. Now of course with the slide locked in his hand, you wont be able to fire. So many things can go sideways during a struggle for a gun.

[@metallkopf988]

If you're close enough that someone can release the mag from your gun, you're already in such a bad place that the utility of your gun may be limited to a lucky discharge in a struggle.

[@MagicPrepper]

It always surprises me how many will argue for why they won't need an extra magazine rather than why they might need one.

[@theprepperrevelator]

I completely agree! I just listened to John over at Active Self Protection explain why you don’t need to carry a spare mag! I like John and agree with a lot of his stuff, on this one I completely disagree! I always carry a spare mag because I don’t want to be the anomaly and wish i had a spare mag. TPR

[@danayen4806]

You bet, I can't believe how many times I been told if you can't settle a fight with 3 round your just a bad shot but not one of them was a combat veteran, we just have to remember that they have never been in a firefight for their life.

[@adama1294]

They are just defending the choice they made instead of weighing the merits.

[@charlespayne1909]

Thats why a buy that exspensive extra mag.

[@danayen4806]

@@charlespayne1909 Yea I bough 10 of them and it was not cheap and I wanted more I bough all they had. My life worth the price.

[@1977Yakko]

I usually carry an extra mag. Now, I will ALWAYS carry an extra mag. Thanks.

[@ScrappyXGC]

I used to throw my extra mag in the glove box. A bit back, long while back, watching a cop (video, not in person), accidently drop the mag out of his sidearm. Changed my mind on the daily placement, everyday, day off, vacation. He stayed in the fight because ON BODY he had his spare(s) in his daily kit.

[@evaneason6906]

When I was on the road driving about 300 miles a day I carried a second handgun on me, never an extra mag for my primary SR40C but now I'll carry an extra mag. Thank u Mr Massad.

[@ScrappyXGC]

@@evaneason6906 Haha, I've got two things that change my load out -- distance and environment. Some neighborhoods are not good places to be, and distance, well if it's not a quick scoot home. Glad your brought up backups.

[@dogbugler]

2 spares and an IFK...Great advice as always, Mas. I have been practicing shooting skills since the age of 5. Having my firearm with me at all times. I have never fired a shot, however the gun protected me on 4 occasions. As a 62 year old dude, I am lucky. Bless this channel and all the folks watching. Stay Safe, Bee Free.

[@wtpence4731]

Last sentence is the key..."prepare for the worst, hope for the best."

[@bernardhayes4459]

Brillant observation about a magazine being ejected during a struggle, its the angle I hadnt considered.

[@kevincrowe2888]

Same here

[@theshapeexists]

Im left handed and carry iwb at 7 o clock. I carry gen 3 glocks because sometimes when I draw and go to grip the gun my hand grazes across the mag release. Gen 4s with the larger mag button are a no go for me because I have inadvertently triggered the mag release when gripping the gun. Id rather have 16 rounds in my self defense gun if I really need it than just 1 round with a mag on the ground. Not ideal. So glad glock still makes the gen 3, in my opinion it was their best generation. I actually like the 2 best but wish it had a rail.

[@epickett63]

Hell, I've seen shooters in competition inadvertently drop their OWN mag - no struggle in progress...

[@chrisperrien7055]

It can happen just because you squeeze a gun the wrong way/push the mag release during high stress, Never mind , the "during a struggle" . Yea , that could happen, but odds are , IMO, such would happen to unexperienced user, thinking they were taking the weapon off safety, while actually dropping the mag. An untrained/unexperienced novice could easily do that in a high stress situation. I suggest 5-6 shot revolvers for such people, rather than semi-auto's*. Revolvers are simple *such people are many of CCW's that don't need an extra clip or reload, that are different in aspect from this YT vid or approach.

[@cagneybillingsley2165]

i respectfully disagree and have to say it depends on the gun. an m&p 2.0 fde with thumb safety using a 4 inch optics ready compact slide and barrel has a 17+1 capacity and its magazines are robust enough to withstand glock type feed lip malfunctions. its mag release design is specifically meant to negate the issue of accidental ejection. if 18 rounds doesn't deal with the problem and then some, you are in a fight in which you could only survive with a rifle and full combat rig. remember in civilian self defense, the goal is to drive off the threat and escape, not to corner and destroy it. you can easily do this with just a few rounds, or a dozen rounds for worst case scenarios dealing with multiple attackers. equipping yourself for a one in a million type threat is like buying 10 houses in anticipation of winning the lottery

[@rebelyankee4910]

Carry two extra mags with every gun I carry, regardless of whether it's a .380, .45ACP, or 9mm. .380 is only summer carry, other three seasons are .45ACP in a 1911. Never too much ammo.

[@alandavidson9333]

One other reason to carry a spare mag is that if the mag in the gun does get released and drops out, some pistols will not fire unless a mag is inserted and locked in place in the grip.

[@ember357danman5]

Back up gun ?

[@TONY19021965]

From a training perspective, as well as my personal experience with a couple of critical engagements, Mr. Ayoob is totally right. On the other hand, so is John, but for different reasons. The statistics are on John's side of the debate, but "the portability of caution" is definitely on Massad's side. So two old maxims prove to be true again; "Better safe than sorry!", and "Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst!". Thank you Massad, great video, and sound advice. *FIDELIS AD MORTEM*

[@cashields4660]

First reason for me is ...why not? California limits our mag capacity but not our capacity to carry extra mags (Californian legislative logic).. Second is that the best way to clear a mag malfunction is to switch mags. The most important reason would be ..more ammo is needed. The stats say a five shot will get it done but once you're out of ammo start praying you're not on the fringe of someone's statistics.

[@rogerray2545]

I know that's right that is very smart thinking

[@DavidRodriguez-er4rq]

If you watch active self protection with John Correia his videos show that bad guys shoot until they are out of bullets. So don't be the one that is out of ammo when a bad shoots.

[@reekgoesoutside]

My ccw issuing county allows the carry of standard mags, being as how all of our mags are freedom week mags...

[@abnormal1074]

1. If at home or friendly confines I have plenty options to return fire. If outside friendly confines I want to be able to insure that I can return to friendly confines. 2. Attackers now tend to come in pairs. Carrying 9mm I need 3 rounds (or more) to each targets vitals in order to neutralize the danger. 3. My shotgun is not convenient to conceal carry. Wish it were.

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

Body armor and plate carriers are now common too in the 2020s. I seriously consider packing police type bonded loads in 10mm, .40, .357sig, 9mm +P. Speer Gold Dot, Ranger T, T series, Federal HST. Some like Critical Duty handgun calibers but that design seems flawed. Not ideal. Same for Fort Scott Mutions.

[@ScrappyXGC]

Just advice, always double tap. Two shots. Practicing 2 and 1 watching people who've practiced that way have trouble with multiple targets (and orders). Fire twice, fire twice, fire twice... doesn't matter the if with one in the pipe makes it odd. The firearm will let you know when you must reload, then you do the same thing, target front post fire TWICE.

[@smc1942]

@@ScrappyXGC ; You beat me to it! That's exactly how I train. Double taps are easy with a Glock of any caliber.

[@bobjones-bt9bh]

consider carrying a more powerful handgun if you believe you need 3 rounds per attacker

[@zososldier]

@@bobjones-bt9bh Consider doing research if you think 2 or less shots on target will stop all threats. Reality is, all handguns suck at stopping people (unless you shoot them between the eyes or through the spine). They are a compromise for portability and capability.

[@andrewfetters3163]

Wonderful advice. When I'm on duty and the general populous asks me how how many rounds they ought to carry, my response is always "as many as necessary to stop a threat". Fantastic work my friend.

[@johnlacasse8893]

"prepare for the worst, hope for the best"... My Dad taught me that mantra, from my wee years.

[@furnacefighter]

Love the vital, lifesaving recommendations. At times I’ve carried the pistol but forgot to pack the extra ammo loaded in magazines. As l’m going up and down the isles of my local supermarket or discount department store I hear Massad and the voices in my head telling me that I only brought a temporary gun on my belt, and i haven’t been to the range in months so you better make those 9 rounds count. Seriously Massad, your a great influence and calming voice in a very hard to navigate sea. Keep up being you.

[@johnmudd6453]

Only in America do you need to be armed to go shopping , or to school , or a concert , ditch the guns and save your children and grandchildren

[@RTS907]

Apparently, John has never has read the statistics! The USA is number 11 on the list on non 3rd world countries.

[@CatchingDinosaurs]

whenever i listen to you talk i feel like yoda sat me down to impart some wisdom

[@EbonKim]

It's always good to test your spare mags for failure, especially with the ammunition you intend to use. It sucks to "waste" ammo, but I tend to see people practice with one type of ammo, then load for self defense with an entirely different ammo. There's a low chance of failure, but you want the best odds in a difficult situation you can get.

[@RTS907]

I run at least a 100 rounds of HSTs through every carry gun. I also rinse and repeat about every 12-18 months.

[@robertbyars9486]

People usually play the way they practice, you are absolutely correct to advise people to practice with the ammo they intend to use if needed. It’s never a waste of ammo and shooting is a perishable skill. Don’t practice and you won’t perform. Not to mention the different ballistic characteristics of different types of ammo.

[@ourtexasfamilyvideos62]

I've attended many USPSA matches and have seen several high performance finely tuned guns suffer magazine failure. That is why I carry a spare that has been tested and proven to be reliable.

[@LuckyCharms777]

Sometimes a sloppy gun is better than a finely-tuned gun because then everything doesn’t have to be perfect to work. I would never carry a finely-tuned gun for that reason. Imagine a malfunction because of a piece of lint.

[@geedubb2005]

I carry two mags in a pouch opposite my firearm. Better to have them and not need them, than need them and not have them. I’m retired now and I refuse to tuck my shirt in or wear a tie since I’ve paid my dues. I only wear polo type shirts and buy one size larger in tall. I live in the southwest and there’s very few days I have to wear a jacket. Thanks for sharing with everybody Massad Ayoob

[@Timber_LXG_5]

I can only think of 2 situations where you can have top much ammo 1 your house is on fire 2 your trying to swim back to shore

[@PRBBEUSMC]

I agree with Mas 💯 having been involved in a few extensive firefights in an urban setting on and off duty, always a comforting feeling to be able to recharge during the confrontation.

[@fyrdawg533]

Many non-military or non-LE folks may not understand or consider the value of a "tactical reload" versus an "emergency reload", UNTIL..........

[@PRBBEUSMC]

@@fyrdawg533 I concur. I always travel with an extra mag on my person. Whether attached to my belt or in an opposing trouser pocket. The firearm, the spare mag and my brain, combined with a high level of physical fitness & situational awareness are the most important tools and elements. Stay safe sharp and cognizant my friend.

[@KiithnarasAshaa]

2:00 I can hear Paul Harrell now in my mind: "Firearm statistics don't always agree and reliable statistics are very difficult to come by. By all of the data I've seen and research I've found that I would consider credible, the overwhelming majority of citizen-involved defensive shooting situations are resolved favorably for the citizen with seven shots or fewer."

[@LuckyCharms777]

But then he’d say “you be the judge”.

[@KiithnarasAshaa]

@@rustyhighlander786 Yyyesss, that's the entire point of Paul's discussion. Ultimately, you should be the judge of what is adequate preparation, but it's also important have realistic expectations over what might be necessary. Being in a situation where you have to deploy a self-defense weapon is already quite rare, and having to use one or two spare magazines or even a backup sidearm is akin to winning the lottery...but people _do_ win the lottery.

[@b75s]

5:27 gives me another reason to like revolvers even more, thanks Mr. Massad Ayoob.👍😁

[@peteshaw7090]

I too like wheel guns, since I grew up with them. I believe that revolvers are the safest carry guns for beginners. You can’t accidentally pull a 12 lb. trigger. Just practice shooting in DA mode.

[@redlicoricerifleexpert7489]

@@peteshaw7090 revolvers is all I own, and collect, old school guy 68 years old. My warm weather carry is a 5 round snub 38+P S&W with 5 extra , colder weather 6 shot 357 model 19 with one reload, if that isn’t enough, then we all will die, someday.

[@animeyhem9780]

I was always taught "one is none, two is one, three (or more) is fine." I see no reason to doubt the validity of said instruction...

[@ImaOkie]

Always appreciate Massads insights and experience he shares .

[@turbo1234ist]

Massad, thank you for all your great teaching, advice and knowledge! It is always a pleasure and learning to hear you speak and your advice is priceless! Take care of yourself and thank you so much!

[@danayen4806]

I have been telling people this for years I carry 6 extra mag and I am retired now before that I carried a lot more with backup supplies in the car, My Dad was a Sheriff and I learn from him I follow his rules even now. I spent 28 years in the field I will never be without a gun extra mags and ammo.

[@doug8718]

Great video and advice. While I've seen statistics that "typically" a gunfight will end by using only the rounds in the gun at the time, wouldn't it be tragic to need more rounds and not have them?

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

I recall Ayoob, a few years ago mention a urban area LE event where a patrol officer emptied a 12ga shotgun 💥 directly at a violent suspect about a car length away & MISSED! Don't think your .45acp or .44magnum revolver will drop a violent thug in 2sec.

[@thatkajunguy8029]

At one time a typical gunfight might have only been a few rounds fired but today you never know. Bangers, the insane, the drug induced and revenge shooters are running loose on the streets. Unfortunately our safety is not guaranteed in public and we are responsible for ourselves, you maybe minding your own business and suddenly find yourselfi n a bad situation..... Carrying a reliable high capacity firearm with a reload is just good insurance, of course this is with the understanding you've trained with it. Sad times we live in but here we are.....

[@LegendaryWoke]

A wealth of advice over the years from this man

[@thomasvess6253]

I've been reading and now listening to Uncle Mas since the 1980's , He is the authority on defensive gun fighting....

[@bobcharles7933]

On magazine failures... back when Glock first put out the G19 a friend had one and we were at the range. He fires 3 rounds, then nothing. Found that the mag wasn't lifting the next round up. Disassembled the mag and found a little piece of wood had pined the follower. See, he was one of these guys who always had a toothpick in his mouth... and somehow a piece of one found its way into the mag in his mag pouch and got stuck in it. At least it cured his toothpick habit.

[@permanenceaesthetic6545]

Wow! Murphy in full effect right there.

[@wolfgangwust5883]

Glock mags, while pretty cheap, tend to malfeed from time to time.

[@normvw4053]

Experience is the best teacher.

[@APTSynthesist]

This is the only channel that I actively try to catch Massad talking during premiered, excellent work as always gentleman👌

[@sergeantc4073]

Totally agree 💯

[@ACommenterOnYouTube]

1:33 When i took my ccw permit class, they interviewed 10 criminals that broke into homes and ALL of them said that once they found out the owner WAS home and HAD guns AND the gun was either drawn at them or fired warning shots at them, they all RAN ....

[@prancypooch9694]

These videos are so helpful! They really help one understand the full weight and responsibility of the decision to CC. From legal repercussions to ones own safety and the safety of others, there is a lot to contemplate, think through and prepare for not only with equipment but also the thought process and action sequence. Thank you for all the instruction and insight.

[@BirdDogey1]

I was able to thwart two armed robberies with my J frame. Crooks sought out a softer target. But that was roughly 30 years ago. Times have changed. Seriously thinking about my edc optons and ammunition capabilities.

[@golferpro1241]

Update for sure. They are well armed.

[@einzelfeuer_2855]

The J frame remains a decent option imo but I would never carry ONLY a j frame 5 shooter as much as I love them and as effective as they can be in skilled hands just because they don't reload smoothly enough compared to pistols or larger 6 shot revolvers. Maybe it's just a me problem but I can never seem to load any 5 shooter as fast as a 6. The speed loaders and strips don't seem to want to line up as smoothly for me.

[@leoburns9674]

Just a reminder, purchase good quality magazines at the start (WC is my choice)… And service and rotate your magazines… To ensure ongoing compliance with your chosen firearm. 😊

[@juddperson6110]

Big fact. Do not get stingy with dropping money on your carry mags. Buy cheap mags for the range, and they may even have that added benefit of letting you train on how to clear malfunctions. I carry a Beretta, and every carry mag I have comes from Beretta. I have some cheaper ones for range time, and the 15 round mag in my firearm will be retired soon and replaced with a brand new 15 round. Don't quite trust their 17 round mags with the nesting springs enough yet to stake my life on it, but that's why I have their 20rnd mag as a spare.

[@chronicwizardmargol7265]

Many years ago I read your book "In the Gravest Exteme" I've used it as a means of helping others who contemplate carrying. Thank you for being you.

[@michaelboyle9512]

I appreciate the lesson and words of wisdom.

[@edwardpaty7420]

As a former LEO every agency I work for required officers to carry at least 2 spare magazines for their duty weapon, and most veterans up to carried 4 spare magazines and a backup pistol, because you never know how many arms suspects you may be facing.

[@ScrappyXGC]

LOL Locally I see 4 spares for main and think "They probably work a long way from backup" "Probably not the greatest patrol area"

[@chrisperrien7055]

Yea, "you never know" . Carry some shark repellant too. Because "you never know". LOL I would have to disagree on your assessment. A civilian will never need that kind of reserve ammo, in a typical or even an obtuse self defense situation. A zombie attack maybe , but not in the real world. As to LEO's and/or "Veterans" thinking it is prudent , IMO , they might have some PTSD or just so much ingrained training that they think they need all those extra rounds. Yes, I am veteran myself and first started CCW when we had attacks/robberies of fellow soldiers off base about 40 years ago, and still do. 4 mags?. No, unless you are a active cop/high security or a soldier in the combat zone/high threat. Or just paranoid. And carrying that amount of ammo , often would not look right to Law enforcement or the court. I.E. It might make a zealous "anti-gun" prosecutor make an SD event into "premeditated". Besides try carrying all that ironmongery and spare "mags" on a beach in shorts. It is not needed. Be worried your training/gun nut psychology has corrupted you, as to "real/civilian world " defense. And always have some shark repellant, If you're Batman ;)

[@Asidebar]

@@chrisperrien7055 wasn't talking about carrying on the Beach

[@chrisperrien7055]

@@Asidebar Yes, many variables involved in CCW , weather, clothing, occupation, nature of the area/threat. Where I live is "hot" 6-8 months out of the year. Still though carrying 2 guns and/or 4 mags is beyond what most will carry/need to for SD. A set-up like that , half stays in vehicle ;)

[@phambelton1]

I agree with you Edward. I thought more than one opponent was sure to make his list. He's the expert of course. But I thought I would have a decent chance in front of a judge/ jury if I said "I saw multiple armed men in my house, I was scared sh*tless for my kids, and just kept firing until they retreated or were down". My $0.02.

[@gowilsoncombat]

We want to hear from you too! Why do you carry extra ammo, and how much?

[@handsmcneil]

Being in ca with limited capacity, with a spare mag I have almost what a standard g19 would hold in my shield and on my belt. But primarily I carry a spare in case of malfunction.

[@iiamdtrainingacademy]

Currently carrying a BW Carry with 2 spare extended 8 round magazines and a 7 round magazine in the weapon with one in the pipe. Simple regardless of my carry weapon I always carry at least one spare magazine in case of malfunction as well you never know the situation you could be faced with, how many threats you may be forced to defend against. Be prepared for any and everything.

[@juddperson6110]

I carry a Beretta 92FS (which I'm hoping to send to Wilson Combat some time in this year for a G conversion), 15 in the gun and a spare 20rd mag. Why? Because I like to party, and I wanna make sure I got plenty of party favors to pass around. Lol. But on the serious side, I know I have a better chance of winning the lottery than ever needing to reload in a real life situation, but on the off chance that I'm just that damn lucky those extra 5 rounds in the higher capacity mag may be enough to make a difference.

[@stancz-5490]

PM Makarov + 2 spare mags in summer. CZ83 with tritium sights usually with one or two spare mags as winter EDC.

[@11C1P]

I mainly EDC a G23 & carry a spare G22 mag.

[@Darryl1963D]

Mr Ayoob, I read your books in the 1980s. It is fantastic you are still contributing to keeping people well advised. Respect from Australia.

[@lamonthoward3379]

Love your video’s. You’ve educated me a lot about firearm safety. Thank you so much.

[@korlilkatana7653]

Reason number 3 was the reason the is making me re-think not carrying an extra mag every time. I do choose what I carry based on the threat risk I see, but having a magazine become useless is a good reason. Thanks for this video

[@AcELoZeR1]

Not an issue if you use an HK

[@irishdefense77]

Here’s the problem with that train of thought.”The threat risk you see”If you knew what you or anyone else was going to get into,on any given day,then you would be a really rich man,because everyone would come to you to find out their fate-and you could charge handsomely for that.For all of us mortal beings,two is one,and one is none,and three are better still.

[@mrgoodcat8661]

Well I've always been a believer in having more ammunition and more magazines than you actually need for the just-in-case type of scenario in my M&P Shield plus from the performance center I have a 13-round magazine and one in the tube and I carry three extra 13 round magazines on my belt same thing with my full-size M&P 2.0 from the performance center I have 1 17 round in it with one in the tube and three more 17 round magazines on my belt when I carry my custom 45 I have a 10 round in the gun and one in the chamber and three more 10-round magazines on my belt and when I'm carrying my AR platform guns I have 1 30 rounder in the gun and 8 30 rounders with me but what I tell people is do what you feel most comfortable doing and carrying

[@ThatguyFirst]

I hope you never have to swim with all that ammo! ;-) Good for you being prepared.

[@michaeldewine4269]

Thank you Sir, for all you do. Your knowledge, skills, experience & expertise will serve anyone, and everyone, well who watches, listens & pays attention to what you share & demonstrate.

[@dthundergunb3115]

Yeah I agree with you. When I carried a 1911 I had two 10 round spares and my 8 round in the pistol, I've since upgraded to a Beretta 92X full size with 18+1 and a spare 18 round mag and I plan to pick up a couple extras for it soon

[@Stingray2017]

MASSOD YOU ARE THE BEST !!

[@billylerch1776]

What a great teacher! Thank you Massad Ayoob!

[@gowilsoncombat]

Thank you!

[@marklsina]

Years ago I took your LFI 1 and LFI 2 in Long Beach, California. I learned so many things from you that have helped throughout the years. Having a spare magazine or two was instilled to my mindset then and to this day I always carry at least one extra magazine. I also left California and now live in the free Commonwealth of Kentucky. Thanks Mas for your excellent training and advice. ⚓️🇺🇸

[@oldschool4812]

God bless you,Mass! Taking one of your 4 day classes was one of my best experiences and a very helpful knowledge was obtained! Thank you!!!

[@richardthomas6602]

Mas always brings something new to any conversation regardless the number of times others have visited the topic.

[@martymonaco1255]

Super enjoy hearing you speak. Very straight forward and to the point. You HAVE convinced me to carry an extra mag for sure. Thank you for all of your videos!

[@narfcakes]

I appreciate very much your candor and also your respect for the purpose of the weapon in this video. Thank you for posting this, I appreciate it and hope you are well sir.

[@robinperronjones5024]

I find your Videos one of the best common sense and down to earth firearm subject matters you could listen to and take note. Well done!!!

[@rogerh1370]

Would like to see more content for us that carry a revolver

[@ScrappyXGC]

Ammo wallet, those plastic stripper "clips", and have one speedloader. You don't have to do them all, speed loaders are bulky, the first two aren't. When I carry my .38 as back up I have one of those stripper clips in my front or rear right pocket. Haven't carried it main in fo'eva, it's small 5 shots, and will take .357 SWC white box target load just fine (it's just a bitch to get back on line, prefer 158gr +P .38 over that target ammo). Just my thoughts, dad was a cop with a .38 before I was born, cylinder +12 was duty carry, with a 50 rnd box in the trunk, SGTs had the shotguns.

[@Samhain606]

The thought of not carrying extra magazines never crossed my mind. When it's over people always think they shot less rounds than they really did.

[@bigrocc3925]

I often carry a wheelgun with 5 and one speed loader Comfort is the main reason. To bad my wheelgun isn't belt fed lol

[@davidchen5061]

Great insights from Mr. Ayoob, per usual.

[@DavidKasan]

The vast volume of knowledge, experience, and wisdom that both Mr Ayoob and Mr Wilson bring to the table is hard to explain. The fact that we may all learn from them so easily, is beyond value. I often wonder, how many lives may be saved from the wise words that are shared by these two gentleman! Thank you to both of you.

[@mrgoodcat8661]

By the way I really enjoy your channel it is very informative I always learn something thank you

[@gowilsoncombat]

Thanks for watching!

[@In_Gun_We_Trust]

I arm myself in accordance with the degree of risk that I might be facing. In high-risk environments, my preference is to carry a backup gun.

[@ScrappyXGC]

Yea, I do that too. It's also do I carry one or two spares for main, but that both environment and distance. Still pants pistol boots then coffee, after that cup I can figure out mags and backup and mags/speedloaders..... Don't you love your days off! That's all you have to figure out, do what you do daily.

[@pauljohnson9445]

Yep, more high risk security gigs got an HK P2000 with 2 mags, and a P2000sk backup with 2 more mags. 2 Surefires, 2 Spydercos, OC, and a IIIA vest.

[@tdeeb6359]

Thanks for the straight talk Mas!! As always, you give great, common sense advice!!

[@johnduffy6546]

I learn so much from each of your videos. Thank you for sharing

[@teresastorms3774]

I have an 8 round magazine with one in the chamber and carry one extra mag. I own two extra mags, and now I will carry both! Thank you so much for all the helpful information! I have learned so much in a short time!

[@ScrappyXGC]

What I've always told others/students, do daily carry load and more than double it (including speedloaders for revolvers). I don't buy any firearm with that price in mind, you see $600, think $1200+. It's an investment in yourself and others. You buy a pistol with a spare, buy four more spares, if it come with only one, buy five more AND make sure you go to the range to make sure they function (I have a rule, if a mag malfunctions and cannot make it function flawlessly, I bend/break it then and there).

[@lanedexter6303]

Interesting! I just listened to John Correia at ASP talking about how reloads in private citizen defensive shootings are virtually unheard of. Both commentaries make a lot of sense. Col. Cooper recommended two spare mags. I’ll keep carrying spares (though there is something to be said for the New York Reload).

[@rickmoss2326]

I like and respect John a lot....but for an 'expert'....that dude gets a lot wrong.

[@jfruser]

I stopped watching John Corriea a while back. He has demonstrated he is not worth my time.

[@GarrettLucasWV]

Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

[@zack9912000]

He talks out of his a s s and claims" MY NUMBERS tell me you will never need it as a civilian" He is going to get someone killed.

[@ronrodgers6531]

Lane Dexter, Defensive shootings are already rare. But, so are car fires. I still have fire extinguishers strategically placed everywhere. Multiple locations around my home and in my vehicles. Better to have and not need than to need and not have.

[@GodschildinNC]

Thanks again for putting this out there. I have been learning from you since the late 80s and loved it all.

[@gowilsoncombat]

Rock on!

[@trebochet]

Wilson Sr new to the channel but you are a good man and I’m happy I found you. Prepare for the best by expecting the worst . That’s what my dad used to say.

[@In_Gun_We_Trust]

Gotta love the New York reload. Backup gun a subcompact pistol or a J-frame revolver.

[@Mr_Snarky]

Ideally, I would be prepared for every imaginable emergency. Realistically, I cannot possibly carry everything that I might need. Therefore, I have to rely upon an assessment of the probabilities and prepare for the most likely scenarios. That being said, if my pistol had a magazine capacity of 10 rounds or less, it would be easy enough to carry an extra magazine, so why not?

[@mikekopmanis2099]

Excellent portrayal and logical explanations. Thank you for this insight!

[@aldam-rio6964]

"Who has only one has none", says a brazilian saying. Thank you Mr. Ayoob. Greetings from Brazil.

[@stevenmason5538]

When I was in law enforcement, I once saw an officer loose the magazine out of his duty weapon. He didn't realize that he had lost his magazine until shift change. I have also seen countless videos of officer involved shooting were the officer ejected there magazine mid firing.

[@TUKByV]

I've heard a few people say they've found loaded magazines on the ground. Guess it happens getting in or out of vehicles.

[@sgtcwhatley]

Just such an event was documented on body camera on January 27, 2022. A Houston PD officer involved in a shooting had two partially loaded magazines fall out of his pistol during the gunfight. He ended up having to find one of them on the ground to keep fighting. The video is available on KZbin at the HPD use of force page

[@GUNNER67akaKelt]

My wife found someone's full magazine at the dog park. They're going to be up shit creek if they need their gun. Sure would be nice to have an extra magazine if you pull your gun and find it without a mag!

[@bobjones-bt9bh]

this is why HK style, "european" mag releases are superior

[@bobjones-bt9bh]

@@sgtcwhatley famous florida shooting the guy dropped his G17 mag mid-firefight. happens all the time with one hand firing grip and american mag releases

[@MrSukiflash]

Been reading Massad,s articles since the late 70s and have always learned from every article/video and at 67 I am still learning from this man.Recently switched from a glock 43 to a 48mos and yes I carry a spare mag at all times!

[@frozentundra7446]

Have you done any modifications? if not why?

[@ScrappyXGC]

@@frozentundra7446 You always get trigger work on a Glock... is there more, other than shooting the mess out of it?

[@donf3877]

Late 70's....... It sounds like you might have been a subscriber to Backwoods Home Magazine. That is where I was introduced to Massad. And, I have been a fan ever since.

[@georgebach9530]

" Great advice from one of the greatest people in the industry ! Thank you Mr. Ayoob !

[@lowkey_high_output160]

Love this channel very informative !!!

[@warlockcommandcenter]

I owned a autographed copy of “In the Gravest Extreme” loaned it to a student to read. He read it and lost it. Thank you Massad I’m sure you book helped to protect me once or twice, it sets a mind set of being alert or as Cooper said condition orange.

[@TUKByV]

I never loan beloved books anymore. I buy copies to gift. Then there's no hard feelings.

[@patrickslevin6424]

The first book I ever read on self defense.............it opened my eyes!

[@smc1942]

@@TUKByV ; I do the same. I've lost many "friends" because they wouldn't return my books. A true friend would! I stopped loaning books in the mid 90's, and started buying extras to gift.

[@pieceofparadise9338]

Statistics never include the gun fight that you might be in someday

[@johngross8300]

Thank You WC and Legend, Massad.

[@nigeldeforrest-pearce8084]

Excellent and Outstanding!!! Thank You!!!

[@jmichaelcarbonniere9549]

One cannot carry too many spare rounds. I carry 25 rounds in my EDC rig, which will hopefully be enough to get me and mine out of any danger. The idea of hope for the best, prepare for the worst carries a lot of weight with me. Be aware as possible, be ready as possible, there's not a lot more one can do! Cheers, jc

[@rexbanner8999]

I work security and just recently started carrying extra spare mags. In california the state law limits the magazine capacity. Here I was just thinking 1 mag in the firearm was enough.

[@GUNNER67akaKelt]

Yeah, I've been carrying and extra mag for a while now. I'm now considering adding a second.

[@bikerbobcat]

I just applied for my Maryland Wear & Carry permit and have been thinking about if I need an extra magazine. And this answered my question. Good video, even for someone new to this like me.