Why You Still Shouldn't Buy A GPU... Maybe.

[@TheGameBench]

So what are your plans... buy now or continue waiting? It's a great time to build a PC, but new GPU's and AM5 are on the horizon. However, there's always new hardware coming out and the waiting game can become perpetual. Let me know what you've got planned.

[@michaelthompson9798]

I feel, based on the recent Gen gpus such as RTX2080Ti / RTX3000 / RX6000 showing people are willing to pay big for the latest top tier gpus 🤯…. Meaning manufacturers may be offering bigger performance Gen over Gen compared to previous years models such as GTX900/1000 (as people were more price conscious then)…. Now I feel we’ll pay for that privilege of that performance in both dollars for the GPU itself, the power supply needed to power the GPU and the electricity ⚡ costs to keep that hungry boy /girl fed 🤦‍♀🤦🤦‍♂🥵😜

[@TheGameBench]

​@@michaelthompson9798 See... but that's based on the people buying those GPU's at inflated prices being 99% miners. Sure, there is a small segment of PC gamers that will. But a lot won't. So... I can see them trying to charge more initially, but have to come down eventually. Also, I've heard rumor that the 7000 series isn't going to have asinine power consumption levels, and this is was Nvidia is having to do just to keep on top. Perhaps that's the case, maybe not.

[@TheGameBench]

@@Souscheff I guess we shall see, but we've heard that crap before too, and then they always go and disappoint people. And Intel is only going to have about four million Arc GPU's, and that includes the mobile GPU's from what I understand. That might sound like a lot... but it's not. And keep in mind, those GPU's will be competing with 3000 series hardware. From the sounds of it, the top end Arc GPU was set to compete with the 3070/Ti... which will now put it up against the 4060/Ti. So... not so great. They'll have to price them competitively and maybe this means we'll have a few budget tier GPU's out of the gate in September. That would be nice and I welcome some lower end GPU's.

[@802Garage]

@@TheGameBench I've been so close to pulling the trigger on a 3060 Ti or 3070 Ti so many times now, but I'm trying to hold out as long as possible to see if I can save at least $50-100. I'm still on a 970 and I'm pretty sick of it, but I'm also a massive deal hunter and hate paying more than something is worth.

[@RawfunRahman]

Im gonna wait until september 2023, wait for newer graphics card at msrp

[@frogslayer4849]

It seems like a decent time to put together budget systems is finally back with us again! Just scooped up an Optiplex 3050 i5 7500, 8gb ram, with 250gb sata SSD for $105 shipped and a 1660TI to go with it for $140. $5 sata power adapter for the GPU and I have a $250 PC that can actually game. I hope you make more videos soon! Your videos have guided me to an affordable working PC and I am very grateful for the awesome info!!! Thank you so much!!!

[@titantyped69]

Your video quality is great, and there are many good jokes! Really underrated channel, I hope you grow on YT like the prices did in the Scalp-pocalypse!

[@TheGameBench]

Thanks! I hope so too.

[@oldmanluffy309]

Miss you Big Guy!!

[@G4ming_OG]

Where have you been we need more videos

[@G4ming_OG]

Plz

[@adamkovac90]

You deserve way way more subscribers. Hope we'll see more Opti videos from you!

[@TheGameBench]

Working on another one right now.

[@coletraintechgames2932]

Always enjoy man.

[@SpcLarge]

Hey Clint, Mike Large here. The algorithm finally pushed a video to me. Great video in every way dude.

[@TheGameBench]

Hey man! Thanks! I never know what that damn algo wants to push out vids. Glad to see this one doing better than the last one.

[@goru426]

Last week I purchased XFX RX 6700 XT, $529 and I love it. All games are above 160fps. On medium settings I get 200fps on all games I play! I have a 144Hz 1080p monitor.

[@JohnBraman413]

no new videos?

[@ryznglascastle1995]

Another great video, Ty. You are right about the uncertainty in the Market right now. I will wait for the used market to drop. The 2060 - 2070 cards look like my best choices to fill my needs. (3rd gen) Faster encoding is what I need, not so much for gaming. I have seen some 20 series cards starting to come up for sale. The release of the 40 series, "I feel" will help to bring prices down on the used market over all.

[@JeffWaynee]

I notice on Amazon that lower end cards like the GTX 1650 are now MSRP, but the mid to high end cards are still 100-300 above MSRP.

[@TheGameBench]

I'm not seeing any 1650's at MSRP on Amazon. Everything is over $200.

[@JeffWaynee]

@@TheGameBench I use Amazon Canada, and today saw a 1650 for MSRP.

[@brandonmitchell2374]

@@JeffWaynee Amazon is one of the worst places to buy a GPU, most of the cards aren't sold direct from them

[@flankingfoxtrot]

Still waiting on the Dell optiplex 7040 and 7050 reviews

[@jerryroth5479]

Now that the RTX A2000 exists do you know of any good deals on prebuilts I can find to pair it with as I was thinking about the Optiplex with an i7 8700 as the 240w power supply on those can handle an efficient gpu?

[@TheGameBench]

The power supply is fine, but the PCIe slot on anything past the xx10 models is right next to the power supply... so I kinda' have to tell you to forget the SFF Dell systems on that basis alone. The HP systems are great for this though. I'm actually building something similar right now. I went with the HP Z2 G4 SFF. They're easy to find with an i7 8700 and sometimes the 9700, for a reasonable deal. Expect around $230 or so for the 8700 and closer to $300 for the 9700. The power supply will be enough for anything only needing PCIe power and the 8700 is MORE than enough to feed an A2000. Think around an R5 5600, maybe a little slower, in terms of IPC. I'm going with the i7 9700 for mine. The HP 600/800 G4 and G5 are also good options.

[@stoganlephens7946]

Do you normally find these deals on eBay? I have an i5 9400 and am wondering what's the best CPU upgrade without having to do a motherboard swap? I was thinking about getting a 9700. I care most about emulation performance for PS3 and 360 and I'm wondering what other features I might be missing from the latest gen of CPUs?

[@TheGameBench]

@@stoganlephens7946 What system do you currently have? Is it a pre-built or a custom build? And if it's custom, do you know what model motherboard it is?

[@stoganlephens7946]

I have a Lenovo prebuilt that has a 1660ti and i5 9400 and an HP prebuilt with the same specs.

[@TheGameBench]

@@stoganlephens7946 Without more specifics... I can't for sure how well the VRM will hold up, but if they're business class systems then I would assume that the i7 9700 would hold up just fine, and those systems would have been sold originally with that as an option. I have a 9700 showing up today that's going in an HP Z2 G4. But honestly, I think your 9400 will be just fine with the a2000. If you're playing a lot of esports titles and you're playing at lower settings for a more competitive frame rate... the 9700 could have a large benefit in some games. Especially in the 1% and .1% lows.

[@1BIGFROGGY]

Thank you for another excellently researched and informative video! Your posts are quality not quantity which is always my preference over churn out puff. Big respect dude! 😎👍

[@wedoprods6088]

why did u stop making videos?

[@ddlcp]

I'll wait when we got close to release of next cpu/gpu as I don't want to jump into new gen hardware (tester)& wait for all things to get standardized with lots of option from component, price to performance - ddr5, new standard of psu & so on. also things to cosnider's that the price of component eg gpu rose from prev gen as compared to before that significantly and current inflation will just add to that so, I'll wait for current component to get at discounted price (new) in best case scenario & considering I don't upgrade ever few yrs its works out for me well. I'm build mid to high end for game/productivity (hobby). rtx 970 supremacy continues

[@DanielSuguwa]

Hey man, I love your video tbh! Lots of thing to learn, and your analysis is pretty top notch! Usually, I won't bother about watching ads from most content creator, but when one of my favorite content creator upload new video, I decided to unblock ads on my extension and watch full length of it. Also, looking at your face and pfp kinda reminds me to Max Payne. Perhaps we can call you Max Payne Gaming? xD All that all, I'm eager to watch more of your video! :)

[@wibble87]

Not for Canada. Prices are still really high for everything more powerful than a 3060.

[@ertai222]

Yup. 3080 still around $1200. It's not worth it. Needs to be at least $800 or less before i buy.

[@TheGameBench]

Interesting. So prices on the 3060, 6600, 3050... and the 6500XT/6400 (not that people should care about those) are pretty reasonable?

[@wibble87]

@@TheGameBench it's been a while since I've been in the market so I'm not too sure what reasonable is for 3060s or less. But I can get a 3060 12GB for about $600. Seems high to me, but a 3070 TI is about $1800 in some places here. And that is absolutely ridiculous.

[@TheLinkhawkins]

I just got a 3050 from EVGA with rebates came under msrp. Great pair to my new i3-12100f.

[@TheGameBench]

I have a couple of them here. At MSRP it's a rather impressive card. And TBH, I think that i3 has more headroom for something even better than the 3050.

[@TheLinkhawkins]

@@TheGameBench I agree it most likely does. I figured this was a good starting point with lots of room for growth (cpu and gpu)

[@ertai222]

I'd never buy such a low tier card. It's a waste of money.

[@TheGameBench]

@@ertai222 That's a lot more than a lot of people have. Keep in mind that there are a lot of people gaming on much less than a 3050. Plus, it might not make sense to put something better in their system. Much more than a 3050 and bottlenecking starts to become a problem with something like a 4790 at 1080p. And not everyone is all that concerned about playing games at higher settings at high refresh. But it needs to be at the right price, and $300 ain't it.

[@JosephAlanMeador]

6 months later, I'm finally seeing 3070's nearing their MSRP of $500, at least on eBay. I'm still content with my old 1070ti, but now is a tempting time to finally upgrade. Do you think it will get any better than this? Thanks for this video TGB!

[@TheGameBench]

Thanks! Honestly... I don't think they will. NVIDIA is intentionally holding back stock of the 40 series cards to keep 30 series pricing high as they try to move all the stock they have left from not forecasting properly. I think people should let them sit on their mistake, but the mindshare is strong, and people will probably buy them even though AMD has better offerings for the money if you're not so concerned with ray tracing. I got a 6700 XT for under $300 on eBay, and it would be a gargantuan step up as long as you have the CPU to feed it. And the cooler is so overbuilt it runs absurdly cool.

[@JosephAlanMeador]

@@TheGameBench Awesome, thanks for the reply man! I'll check out the 6700 XT, sounds like that may be a better upgrade path for me. Appreciate the insight!

[@tetoogamer]

good luck friend 😂

[@andrewparker3689]

This was a very informative video. I've been keeping an eye on GPU prices for a few months and have been enjoying watching the prices drop. Thanks to your video, i decided to check ebay pricing on GPUs and was absolutely blown away at how inflated they are, especially the used market. Are people actually buying these at these ridiculous prices?

[@TheGameBench]

Thanks! And sadly... they are. A few months ago, they were even worse. People were paying close to $150 for 4GB 960's. It was insane. I feel like those should be closer to $50 at this point. We're getting there though. I think it has a lot to do with a lack of new budget tier cards because they had no incentive to make any.

[@machineheadg2r]

pricers are falling but waitin for black friday is best

[@MarkTopma]

I have a feeling we will have a dejavú all over again when the new series GPU's are released. I think the Miners / Scalpers are waiting to get their hands on the new series cards :)

[@TheGameBench]

Oh... we'll absolutely have scalping issues, whether that's from people scalping or the distributors and AIB's. But I don't think we'll have a lot of miners buying cards. Otherwise prices wouldn't be continuing to come down right now.

[@James-ip1tc]

I just purchased a RTX 3090 off of eBay for about $50 under retail. I was going to wait but these lockdowns in China and other factors have me spooked. Also the price of the new GPU's and their power consumption is possibly problematic.

[@TheGameBench]

That's fair, and you got for $50 less.

[@buriedbits6027]

No videos in a while my friend. I just picked up an Optiplex 5060 with an i7 8700 for about 125USD. HINT: can you make more videos? Sh maybe you’re busy and I know it’s a lot of work for you to make these videos. Hope all is well. Cheers!

[@TheGameBench]

Nope, I've been out of it for a while. I lost all motivation thanks to the PC market being a complete crap show during the last mining boom. I'm trying to put some new stuff together right now, but it's a bit of a slog since a lot of the games I'm testing are new and I have to get to a good place to benchmark.

[@buriedbits6027]

@@TheGameBench Of course, I understand. I enjoyed your videos more than most. Your style was great, and when you were making videos, I was inspired to buy my first PC ever, an Optiplex 3020. I upgraded the CPU to an i7, below the K variant, but I installed Batocera Linux, so no GPU card. I also upgraded the PSU. Since then, I just picked up my Optiplex 5060, which will likely be for Ubuntu and Windows 11. Macs have become too expensive and closed for my taste. I prefer expandability. Thanks for the videos you made; I’m sure it was a ton of work and money for you. Maybe one day. Cheers, my friend.

[@PinkyTech]

I really hope people don’t do like last launch and sell their GPUs before the cards are launched or even have an idea of availability. Sadly you know some will.

[@TheGameBench]

Yeah, when people were doing that when the 3000 series launched I knew it wasn't going to end well. Wish I had enough money at the time to buy a ton of them to build some gaming PC's between then and now.

[@PinkyTech]

@@TheGameBench Would have been nice. If only we had the benefit of hindsight.

[@mrkemblegilstrap]

hi! what is the most important part of the computer that has the most impact on gaming performance? in FP Shooter, fast, crowded, multiplayer maps.

[@ChrixOfficial]

What about now? Prices seem to be back down

[@baxterstockman2224]

Here in Serbia prices are still high over MSRP... Not even close

[@ark66]

indeed

[@TheGameBench]

I have a friend that's from Romania and he was out here for a couple of weeks and we talked about this. In some places it just really bad where the supply chain isn't as plentiful. I really hope the crash of ETH mining gets you some good deals on eBay for a cheap card.

[@b.s5980]

What is your input on all these new for lack of better name chinese gpu's and do they work?

[@TheGameBench]

You mean like the cut down 580 that you can buy new for close to $100? If so, everything I'm seeing on them says they're legit.

[@foehammergaming309]

Sorry to have to just leave a comment. I’m trying to reach out to you about buying a NES with old 72 pin set. I’ve been burned on getting replaced pin NES before. I’ve watched your videos and would feel way better about buying one from you. If you don’t deal with that I understand. Thanks

[@TheGameBench]

No worries. Unfortunately, i don't have any 72-pin connectors. However, I do have a couple of suggestions. If you're willing to go non-original, I highly suggest the Blinking Light Win since it eliminates the whole problem with the original connectors, no pushing the cart up and down. www.arcadeworks.net/products/blw?variant=36483581116569 There's also a seller on eBay that refurbs the original connectors that I've used in the past and had pretty good luck. www.ebay.com/itm/161318155840

[@foehammergaming309]

@@TheGameBench well thank you. I greatly appreciate you taking the time to respond and address the issue. I will definitely look in to that.

[@TheGameBench]

@@foehammergaming309 Yeah, no problem. Happy to help.

[@fohhee]

Jensen Huang: Introducing, RTX 4060, faster than RTX 3080, it just work. 2022 RTX 3000 Owner:

[@Umbasa_]

Wow! Really helpful video and I've been going through your backlog too. Great stuff overall! I just recently got my hands on a HP Elitedesk 800g1 sff and have been thinking about potential GPU options. Gonna mainly run Batocera for now, so I'm thinking AMD would be my best bet. Do you think your advice from the "Dell OptiPlex GPU Upgrade Guide" vid still holds up? My biggest worry is the 240w power supply, but I'm not sure what cards could fit within that limit now. My main purpose for it is going to be emulation, ideally up to GC/PS2 era

[@TheGameBench]

Thanks! i don't know, Nvidia has been doing better on the Linux front, but AMD is a more sure bet, just the pricing on the Polaris cards is still pretty terrible. I'd say my advice from that video has changed somewhat due to pricing, but at this point, it's possible to get a 1060 6GB for about the same price as back then... which is kinda' sad. Being that it's a SFF, you're good with any low profile GPU you can buy. The pricing is pretty terrible on all the LP GPU's though, but that's true even in a normal market because they're more niche. I know the 6400 might be temping, but wouldn't be a great idea for a Gen3 system, but if you're primarily going to use it for is emulation, and not current titles, the 6400 actually isn't a terrible idea. ETA Prime did a video on the RX 6400 that showed it was pretty decent for emulation.

[@mrkemblegilstrap]

hi! I was messing around with my old Dell and just out of boredom I ran a second Cinebench V23 multy core. this time it was a 3296. but, when I ran the same test, 2 months ago, it was 2984. any thoughts?

[@TheGameBench]

Most likely... something running in the background.

[@mrkemblegilstrap]

@@TheGameBench hmmm, great answer! thanks. just for giggles, I'm gonna run 2 of them back to back without messing with anything. to see what happens. what I should be doing is trying to find help for my MOH server spot that I just rented. my buddy got the name, map, and battle type changed from the default ones, but now it crashes every time. he thinks that either his his files are too old or the wrong type. he's stumped and I don't have a clue about any of it, lol

[@mrkemblegilstrap]

@@TheGameBench hey, bro?!? my server is going good! some cosmetic things I'm adding still, but the game itself is ready. I am Ober Gilstrap 88 and my server is Obers Omaha Beach 24/7. you are always welcome. it's listed in the AA server list. oh! I forgot to check the big master server list.

[@rukawakaede2231]

helpful as always, but i wanna see some 3080ti for 500$ near the 40series launch 😂😂

[@TheGameBench]

You and me both.

[@treewire1]

hey bud i could really use your help. i bought an Optiplex 9020 tower i7 and tried to put m old geforce gtx 1060 in and surprisingly i fit, but i never saw in an of your videos how to wire after upgrading . i have an 8 pin on my 6gb gtx but no wires to hook to or extra plugs like my old computer had .an idea or link o video that can show me ????THANKS IN ADVANCE !

[@TheGameBench]

Sorry, I went over that in the $300 build video and I didn't make it very clear that it was meant as a series of videos. Anyhow, in the Opti you can power the 1060 with a dual SATA to PCIe adapter. Just do a search for those on Amazon and get either the Cables Matters or Startech adapters. The single that I used in the $300 build video may, or may not, be enough depending on which model you have.

[@treewire1]

yeah you skipped right over the part where you install that adapter. i have the same dell 9020 tower with the same two sets of wires coming out of the psu and into motherboard . It ma sound stupid but even if i find an 8 pin adapter ...I dont know what it plugs into because you didnt show the install. could you please explain that to me THANKS!!

[@buee2277]

Hello is it true , the RX 460 2GB have problems with Dell Optiplex Pre-build ?

[@TheGameBench]

I haven't tried the 2GB model, but the 4GB model works just fine and I don't see any reason the 2GB wouldn't work. Perhaps the people having issues were having problems with UEFI. Sometimes AMD cards don't like it when you try to run them in legacy mode. However, I would avoid a 2GB model if you want to use it for gaming. The 4GB models should be fairly cheap right now.

[@buee2277]

@@TheGameBench Thanks for your answer , i just want to play esport games so 2Gb sound fine and yeah i have heard there are Bios problem :/ i will see . Do you know if the 290W Power Supply from the 3020 MT would be fine for the rx 460 2Gb , no power cable , 75W . I5 4 gen 16gb SSD Rx 460 2gb The 290W PSU can handle this ? I took this OEM RX 460 2GB because i saw lot of youtubers recommanding it for cheap pre-build PC :d it's the red one model with no external power. Only 61€ on Ebay. Thanks for your time.

[@mr.clorox7826]

Rtx 3050 costs aprox 458 usd in my country, do you think it will drop sometime soon?

[@TheGameBench]

It's really hard for me to say for other countries as VAT, import duties and other "profiteering" goes on, even more so, outside the U.S. I know it's really rough in other countries, even without GPU scalping.

[@ertai222]

Spend money on a better card. You'll likely regret getting such a low tier card then waste more money later on something better you should have just gotten initially.

[@danthegreat7590]

Would it be good to wait on a 3080ti or just get 3070 ti

[@TheGameBench]

What resolution do you play at? If it's 1080p, the 3080 Ti would be wasted on that. I'd just go for the 3070 Ti. If you game at 1440p and want high refresh, especially if you're gaming on an ultrawide monitor, the 3080 Ti would be the better choice... all provided you have enough CPU to feed either card. I do think they'll continue to come down, but keep an eye on EVGA's store. You could get a 3080 12GB and nearly be at a 3080 Ti for $1,000. To me, that would be the better value.

[@AlexLancashirePersonalView]

I use PC for video editing. Any suggestions for a gpu for DaVinci Resolve 18 studio.

[@TheGameBench]

Pretty much anything Nvidia. They just do this work better than AMD, and I'm not sure if it's hardware limitations or the software just isn't optimized for them... or both, But I'm currently using a 1080 Ti and I'm about to upgrade to the 3080 Ti, mainly because of the VRAM. I felt the 3080 was a step back in that regard. However, the 3080 now has 12GB and EVGA has those for $1,000. Maybe they'll come down further... I'm not sure. However, your workload might not need that much VRAM and you might be able to get away with 10GB from the standard 3080 or 8GB on the 3070/Ti or 3060 Ti. The 3060 can, but the 12GB on the 3060 is much slower, which isn't ideal. The 3050 can even do alright for a beginner. I wouldn't even bother with the 3090/Ti unless you're doing some insane editing projects... in which case, I'd assume you'd already know you needed those.

[@MotorwayGaming2018]

Ye i'm buying a 2060 this June.

[@ertai222]

Sounds like a mistake.

[@MotorwayGaming2018]

@@ertai222, not rly, cos i'm desperate for streaming shaders at the lowest possible price.

[@TheGameBench]

I've been keeping my eye out for one. Seen them going for as cheap as $230 used.

[@TheGameBench]

@@ertai222 Don't know what you'd say that. It's still a good option... at the right price of course.

[@funi1083]

I'm only buying if A. 3060ti goes to 350 B. 3080 goes to 650 if not, next gen it is

[@donottouch9110]

Idk if you personally mine but miners don't simply mine and sell immediately every month they sell part to cover the cost of internet or electricity but mayority are holding there etherium and let me tell you when etherium moves proof of stake everyone is holding to see it jump extreme price people that love or like mining will switch to other coins cause there is gonna be a new etherium coin out there popular to mine also etherium classic is a thing and again allot of other coins are a thing but everyone is mining etherium and they will do it till they can't but trust we are gonna have another gpu apocalypse if nvidias 4000 series is al powerful as they say regardless of the wattage

[@TheGameBench]

Yes, I've mined with the GPU's in my own personal machines and I do hold a small amount of ETH. I fully expect the value to increase after the merge. However, I've explained this. Not everyone can just suddenly mine other coins. It's getting tiring explaining this over and over. If you put all the hashing power that's going into ETH into all the other coins they will become unprofitable due to the level of difficulty. If they could, there's no sense in waiting, just keep buying GPU's and mine other coins now. Some already are, but not everyone can. There will be another ETH, but it took ETH years to get to this point and it will take years to build up another coin to this point as well. Regardless of any other factors, there will be zero point in buying the 4000 series to mine ETH. You might have some buying them to mine something else, but it will be a small amount. Unless they push the ETH merge back over a year, the 4000 series will be an apocalypticly idiotic purchase to mine ETH. I'll honestly be surprised if the merge is push back much farther than the 4000 series launch.

[@donottouch9110]

@@TheGameBench you are right but one of your talking points for now is just a theory that has a 50/50 chance to happen cause this is the first time we will see if the miners push all there mining power to other coins and see what happens unless this has already happened I person don't know but I don't think it has happened so we shall see I hope that you are right but if not it will be an apocalypse

[@TheGameBench]

@@donottouch9110 They can't and they know they can't. The more GPU's you add to a network, the more the difficulty goes up, and unless the value of that coin goes up my the same amount, the profitability goes down. If the value remains at is current rate, they would become worthless. This isn't a theory, it's simple math. It's an objective fact, not speculation. If it weren't, why would they have stopped buying GPU's? The larger operations know that the gravy train is coming to an end... for now. Some small miners will be able to switch right now. Others will have to come in slowly as the network can bear the hashrate, and this all hinges on the value of the coin going up. If it doesn't, it will never be profitable to mine at the rate ETH is right now. ETH took years to build up to this point, it wasn't overnight. All the people mining BTC couldn't just switch to ETH when ASIC's took over and muscled GPU's out. These are facts. It's just how things are. A few will, most can't... not initially. In three to five years, we might have something back to the point that ETH has been at, but not now and not at the merge.

[@donottouch9110]

@@TheGameBench I hope you are right

[@rl53]

Anyone thinking it's ok to pay £1500 for a graphics card plus the extra electricity bills needs a hard look at themselves or pay the bills. No amount of FPS is worth what these cards offer & Imho I would rather stop playing/buying games than pay these prices. IMHO the tech world is destroying itself with greed as the corporate world is. Reconnect with nature it's far more enjoyable & I grow up playing space invaders & Attic Attack. Stop over paying & save your hard earned cash as one day you'll need it & wonder why you paid these prices. No one need new tech every 5 yrs but we're conditioned to think we do for the benefit of corporations to make you more poor.

[@TheGameBench]

It's not just the tech sector, it's corporations as a whole. I really think they believed infinite growth was possible, but the growth was all built on lies. Even if it wasn't, that growth was never going to be sustainable. They're all having a hard time letting go of that, but they'll have to eventually. However, I've learned to not try to rationalize enthusiasts. They don't care. They want the best, diminishing returns be damned. There's no logic behind it, and if they've got the disposable income to do it... I guess it doesn't matter. But it would be interesting to know how many of them are financing it on a credit card... which is obviously a terrible idea, unless you make money with what you're doing with the PC.

[@rl53]

@@TheGameBench Completely agree, I spent 20 yrs being in debt trying to afford tech on credit cards, now I've paid but now I have to face that I can't even afford to put my heating on here in England never mind the luxury of tech/items/food. "You'll own nothing & be happy", no we'll own nothing & pay for nothing & let the corporate world collapse. t's what corporations do sell their souls & people have to realise, we don't need it in the long run. All distraction to take our minds away from what's really happening in the word while the elite (parasites) harvest our hard earn money.

[@buggerlugz6753]

The GPU market is a dumpster fire. Nothing for 3 years at the $200 price point and all new cards offering less features and lower bus speeds. As prices come down the GTX 1000 series is the only thing offering value for money on the second hand market currently.

[@TheGameBench]

Yeah, and I'd say the 900 series is a good option at the entry level too. It's sad... they've just had no incentive to make any new budget tier GPU's, so the few we got were trash and/or overpriced. Too bad we'll have to wait another year to see if they give us anything out of the new cards in that department. Maybe by the time Intel's GPU's show up, they'll fit in there nicely... so long as their prices don't suck.

[@tomhitchcock4609]

Im happy with my 6600xt for a couple of years by that time there will be no shortages.

[@TheGameBench]

I don't know... another coin could replace ETH in two or three years time. But perhaps we'll have the capacity to deal with the demand by then? Who knows. We'll have to wait and see. But yeah, the 6600 XT is an excellent card for the money, especially right now.

[@tomhitchcock4609]

@@TheGameBench here in the uk rx6700xts can be sold for 550 pounds and 3060 tis for under 500 things are getting better hopefully next time i will upgrade will go for last gen.

[@strelokscar2578]

Liked then watched!

[@clemsonbloke]

Where you been handsome? :)

[@Randorandom232]

One of the sexiest channels.

[@haiderbashir1764]

Bruh u alive brotha?

[@TheGameBench]

Sort of... Really tho, yeah... I'm still kicking.

[@ertai222]

Prices in Canada are still a joke but nobody talks about it. All anyone talks about is the US market. Who cares? That doesn't affect me.

[@TheGameBench]

I am sorry to hear that, but just like any other channel, I can't know what prices are like everywhere. I talk about the U.S. market because that's where I live and it's where I can readily verify prices. Researching this took quite a while as it is.

[@ertai222]

@@TheGameBench yeah i understand. Makes sense.

[@TheGameBench]

@@ertai222 But I guess my advice still stands then, just wait for the mining cards to hit eBay and prices should drop... or buy one of the mining cards. But you might have to end up importing them. Not sure there are a lot of mining operations in Canada, but I could be wrong. I agree with you entirely... I wouldn't pay over MSRP. I'm curious what's keeping prices up for you. Lower supply? Crappy retailers? Distributors? All three...

[@jasonking1284]

Nah... don't buy. Let those retailers, miners and scalpers cry now....

[@kevinrajabuan2994]

marek hamsik

[@TheGameBench]

Not quite that level of mowhawk, but pretty close.

[@GregRippetoe]

why this mofo not releasing new videos?

[@TheGameBench]

Let's call it personal issues... but, out of curiosity, is this the kind of videos you want to see from me?

[@GregRippetoe]

​@@TheGameBench yes bro, videos that go against the norm are great. Also make more optiplex and budget build videos.

[@Soddus.]

First!!!!!!!!!!!

[@TheGameBench]

Even beat me making a pinned comment.

[@richardskyking5151]

You're a smart Guy. Please go back to your 2015 look. It's like the difference between "IT Manager" and "Basement Guy". --- Sorry to insult the basement guys.

[@TheGameBench]

I appreciate the compliment... I guess. Like you said, I'm a smart guy and my information either stands on it's own, or it doesn't. It doesn't matter what I look like. I'm happy with how I look and I have no intentions of changing it right now. Besides, I've worked in IT and I'll pass on being an IT manager, and I'll take basement guy happily.

[@saadforazi]

Bro stop it's really sad to see you making KZbin videos for 8 years 😭

[@GabrielGarcia-lw4tb]

I'm pretty sure it is his job to make videos and he gets money back when the video gets views nothing new dude

[@TheGameBench]

Bold words for someone that's been making videos for two years and has less than 30 views total. Nobody is forcing you to be here... so watch, don't want... I don't care.

[@zellar1]

Just to follow up on your comment!! Game Bench videos have been very helpful when I first started refurbing Dell Optiplex's. His video's also help in PC learning in general. Dumb comment you made!!!

[@-mustang-9383]

Hi The Game Bench, I want to ask, my roomate offer a gaming PC of ASUS ROG Gaming PC G11CB (prebuild): RAM : 16 GB CPU: i7 7700 VGA : GTX 1070 8gb Windows is included (I know it couldn't be updated into win 11) I also get xbox wireless controller , with usb receiver Price : 400€ I live in Germany, never had a pc gaming and this will be my first gaming PC. I did some benchmarks, to ensure that it still deliver the required performance (CInebench R23, 3D Mark), not overclokced and not mined. I open the case once and saw that it was not so dusty. On his steam profile, I saw that mostly he played only call of Duty for 72 hours (in total with other games only ~74 hours combined.) From my observation, he only used the gaming pc only for COD Zombie (72 hours of gaming) and some office (word,excel). My question: 1. is it worth to buy (not over price) ? 2. if not worth to buy, what is your suggestion from the price range point of view? 3. I found another seller , www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/gaming-pc-i7-7700k-16gb-ram-gtx-1080-ti-nbb-raubtier/2259954840-228-6426 , which offer 1080ti with only 430€, 30€ more what I have to pay from my roomate. It is far more cheaper that what I want to buy now, the seller told me that the machine is going well and never been OC, not mined. I'm being suspicious, though he offer really cheap and still working machine, but somehow it could be that it won't last long / scam. What is your opinion? 4. Mainly I want to buy this PC so I could play: a. CS GO, b. GTA V and some free games that I got from EPIC games. c. I'm not considering of any upgrade to higher component. just use this as gaming console. I am not a freak full good quality texture. More that I could get a high FPS with NORMAL quality texture Any opinion or suggestion about my questions would be helpful, since I'm going to pay 400€ today. Thank you and have a nice week

[@daddyalpha2648]

It's funny how all these techies/reviewers always claim that gpu prices have dropped or are going to drop or even worse be at msrp 🙄😂 While they have 0 knowledge if gpu prices will drop or are dropped in the rest of the world mainly in Europe 🙄 I live in Belgium Europe and the gpu prices even have increased! So for the love of god please stop with misleading titles/clickbait or mentioning in the video that gpu prices are now msrp or close to! It's false. America isnt the whole world 🙄 its just one continent that doesnt represent the whole damn world. For example the rx 6800 xt msrp is 650 dollars supposedly 🙄 here in Europe the cheapest model is 1150 euro or 1200 dollars! Thats 2x the msrp! For 2 months you damn youtubers are claiming that gpu prices are dropping or already have dropped. So you youtubers live in every country in the world thats why you know for a fact and even dare to claim openly and publicly that gpu prices are now at msrp 🙄😂 again usa doesnt represent the entire planet.

[@TheGameBench]

And how do you suppose I, and other Techtubers, are supposed to know what GPU prices are like in every country, because it is going to vary all over the place. And in some places the prices always suck for various reasons. Hell... Germany has some of the best prices on GPU's right now. I know the U.S. isn't the whole world, but it's what I know because it's where I live, and it's not reasonable to expect Techtubers to know market conditions in every location. I suppose it's possible, but then we'd have to do so much more research, and these videos have enough as it is, and the video would be so long, the metrics would suck and YT would bury... so there's be zero point in making it in the first place.

[@daddyalpha2648]

@@TheGameBench I hear ya but atleast mention in your title and video that those prices are meant for US only that way you dont piss off alot of people watching outside the US lol. Everytime I see a new video about gpu prices dropped or are now msrp I get superpissed because thats not true in Europe 😂