Why your new camera feels like a step back

[@grahamniven]

I did cameras backwards. Started with mirrorless then bought a DSLR. A D700. An old high mileage D700. Then I added a second very low mileage D700. Because I enjoy the D700 experience so much. The weight, the buttons for everything, the optical viewfinder, the noise of the shutter, the way the RAW files look, the lenses you can get for it, everything about it is utterly wonderful. It feels so right and just picking it up gives me joy. Still have mirrorless and still use them, all of them have viewfinders because for me a camera without a viewfinder might as well be a phone.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Very fair! I have to admit, not having a viewfinder sometimes is quite annoying, just today I was using a 3rd party OVF on my RX1 and did think it could be improved

[@SketchTurnerZero]

IKR!! I think to sell my Canon Eos R and come back to DSLR!!

[@VGScreens]

Not exactly "backwards" but you just made me realise how much of a roller coaster my path of mains has been, haha. I went entry level fixed lens film, then Mavica, various point and shoot digitals, then interchangeable mirrorless for a decade, fairly standard path up until I got my first ever DSLR last year (old 5D for pocket change that I drooled over when it came out), now I've enjoyed using amazing old lenses with the optical viewfinder so much that I've realised I want to return to the SLR film cameras where these lenses once lived... It's all perfectly rational, lol...

[@matthieuzglurg6015]

as a D700 user myself (that also started with mirrorless and bought a D700 later), I would recommend you take a look at the D600. The image quality you get out of it is still up to modern standards (full frame 24MP, really nice high ISO, absurd dynamic range), but it still has that sort of nice tones to it that you only find in older cameras (especially the D700). It's not as nice as the old guy color-wise, but it's pretty close. And you benefit from a lower weight for when it's needed. I shoot a D700 and D600 in tandem, D600 when the DR is needed or if I want to crop, D700 when I want to have the most accurate focusing possible and if I know the colors will pop and it works like a charm. Those old tanky Nikon DSLRs are simply a joy to shoot,a nd the D700 is such a nice camera, I could sell every other camera I own, only keep this one and not be bothered one bit.

[@jimpap13]

The D700 was one of those great cameras❤

[@theshuttergrind]

I bought a Sony Rx1R2 about two months ago, after a year of not having any gear with me due to , well, life. It's been so much fun. It's compact , non intimidating, it packs a (good) full frame sensor and a beast of a lens. i love this tiny battery sucker monster. The reason I comment here is because channels like yours are the ones photographers should be watching, and not the "all about gear" channels we already know. I can read the camera specs online, what I really want is to know if it does what I need it to do. Niche. Thanks! Subscribed.

[@davidmccarthy6061]

Yeah, unless it breaks, I'm not expecting to ever need to replace our Lumix GX85.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Get an extra copy as a back up!

[@brendanclark81]

The GX85 is an absolutely tried and true camera! After shooting Nikon DSLR's for a decade, I bought the GX85 and never looked back!

[@KirstenBayes]

"Zooms accommodate for mood swings." That will be in my head for weeks.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Wasn't in my notes just popped up while recording 😅

[@nickthaskater]

A big part of this is the massive reliance on post-production (i.e. Lightroom). So many people throw all hardware character out the window after blowing up the files in Lightroom, fighting the camera hardware rather than embracing it. I laugh when I hear about colour science and character when the photo on the screen has been manipulated and slathered with presets and HSL. No wonder hardware starts to feel anonymous.

[@jimizell]

This is an interesting take. In the push for "perfection" optically and in the sensor, modern photography gear has become more homogenous than not in terms of output. Great for consistency, not so much for unique flavor. It's probably why people still wax poetic about CCD sensors, the original Canon 5D, Fujifilm SuperCCD, etc.

[@pxperimenter]

What you think is the "hardware character" of your camera is actually just its JPEG engine = its internal raw conversion software... (which, compared to Lightroom and other desktop software, is simplistic and produces worse results in color, detail and dynamic range because it has to run on the computationally very limited chip hardware of the camera). The actual hardware character of your camera lies in its sensor and the raw file preserving its unprocessed data.

[@nickthaskater]

@pxperimenter I'm not talking about jpg but thanks for trying to sound intelligent. I'm talking about the sensor and lenses and the various "tunes" within that system that each OEM implements.

[@pxperimenter]

@nickthaskater Thanks for the unfriendly response. Just to reinstill some logic here: Unless you are relying, to quote your original post, on post-production (in Lightroom or some other raw converter), you have no choice but to use JPEG, in which case what you call "hardware character" is the camera's internal JPEG processing. But once you shoot raw and convert it to JPEG with any program, the color science, denoising, debayering and all other parts of the image processing are no longer a matter of camera hardware/OEM, but controlled by the software, even if you just apply the default processing profile and don't tweak the image. Lenses have nothing to do with the camera itself, unless you buy a fixed lens model. And please enlighten the readers here about these mysterious "tunes"... There are none, except (to a rather unremarkable degree) in the filter stack before the sensor - and, of course, in the camera's internal processing pipeline aka JPEG engine...

[@nickthaskater]

@pxperimenter my point was simply that photos are typically edited to extremes to where hardware is largely irrelevant. This isn't a point about simply converting raw to jpeg or shooting straight to jpeg. You're grossly over analyzing the point.

[@benfromatlantis]

Just came back from A7iii to the 6D and now to the 450D. I know it sounds crazy. But now it's fun and learning again. Right exposure, changing dr and so on.. Puh, was a big step for me again!:)

[@swisswildpicsswp3095]

I either shoot film, because I enjoy the process, or JPEG. Spending hours editing digital files takes away all the pleasure of shooting digital for me. I’d rather miss some shots than spend my life editing RAW files. I once spent entire days editing one photo when I discovered astrophotography. It was a wonderful experience, but I’m over it now. These days, I just want to find cool looking compositions. It’s all about finding what brings you joy.

[@johnwinter6061]

Canon R series has in camera lens correction for jpegs. It's fantastic! Back in the 1970s/80s I used to do colour printing in a darkroom. PC + printer far better!

[@petegleeson1]

Another great vid, interesting -thoughtful. I suggest we need to remember that Pentax DNA is Ricoh. Specific niche camera for someone who gets that vibe. I am a GRiii user and I have more cameras, but the GRiii is the one that feels the most me. I am sure if you still want to shoot DSLR the Pentax cameras hit the spot, so to make a film camera was very brave, but actually quite them, understanding that their is everybody wanting to take pictures of their /cat/grandchildren /partner and they will use their phone, and the others. They get there are people for whom photographs are personal family snaps on their phone, and people for whom photographing the mundane family life is an expression of self on a Ricoh Gr. I will not buy the Pentax 17 but I get they are aiming for a younger audience for whom analogue is creating a tangible feelable thing. I have no gripe against Sony or Canon etc. but they just want to sell great cameras to enthusiasts, the RX doesn’t meet the “max sales to as many enthusiasts who are a grey lump of geeks who want the best tech now”. So Sony etc will not dip their toes back in unless they see a huge market. Today Fuji has worked out what a great camera for the masses is and is mining that seam. I suspect OMS are not as foolish as people think, they worked out a market and are working it, I am not that market but still like my OM5, but don’t expect a new Pen F. Cameras are going niche. The niche who want the most mega pixels and tech are one niche, Fuji currently are dominating another niche, stylish, fun, lifestyle etc. But I think that is what we have and unless Nikon, Cannon, Sony find their camera geek mega pixel niche is too small they will back their current horses.

[@relaxwithme3266]

I rock a Sony Nex6 for professional work and never once has a client complained.

[@Fecho33]

I miss those days when you only had to grab your Pentax k1000 or any other reliable, simple camera, and don’t care about anything but to go out have fun and nail cool photos…. But, remember you can still do that, just grab your a6400 or any other simple but effective camera and care more about the experience of making photo, the camera is just a tool.

[@gwarlow]

K1000 was my first dslr, Nikon FM2 my second - then Olympus E500, E-30 and now since 2018 (I think) I have a used OMD EM1… which I will own until it fails - if it ever does. All this over the course of 40+ years. I enjoyed them all.

[@stephenspiteri_zunkus]

I once asked a Nikon ambassador if he would approve a last F-mount camera for a niche market, the Nikon photographer who has invested in a lot of F-mount lenses with today’s Z-camera manual focusing technology but in a f-mount body. Not a Zf with a Z-mount and a horrific huge adapter but an actual f-mount body with mirrorless tech. He argued that mirrorless have to be ticker due to the mirrorless technology, but my D810 had live-view, which is essentially mirrorless so it can be done. It would be a gift to all the Nikon die-hards. It could be ideal for them and also for the latest hot trend of street photographers who want something small with small lenses.

[@derrenleepoole]

Let’s be honest, we hit fantastic image quality from digital cameras 20 years ago…. The Canon 5D or Nikon D700 are still fantastic today. All we’re really seeing now are incremental changes in spec, but broadly speaking, unless you’re pushing the super high megapixel cameras, imagine quality hasn’t improved massively… just things like focus response, or other AI features designed to improve the capture of an image. Cameras are more and more like computers. I think there’s a reason there’s been a resurgence and interest in older cameras, particularly the early DSLR’s…. I purchased the Canon 5D Classic… it’s a breath of fresh air. It’s just takes photos, and bloody good ones at that. If your cameras are operating and feeling more like computers or phones even, then any change isn’t really going to feel different or refreshing as we have on us every day a pocket computer, or our computer at work. We’re swamped with tech even when we go shopping or park the car. It’s all very draining and tiresome.

[@houghwhite411]

What we have these days are better low lights, I still made lovely images with 10 years old tech

[@johnwinter6061]

Think that depends upon lens and sensor size as well. Had an Olympus 3MP and a Fui 6MP. Then I bought a Canon 600D 18MP + Tamron EF-S 18-270. Huge improvement. Loved it. Tested an RP + RF 24-240 two years ago. Another quantum leap. Full frame, mirrorless and in camera lens corrections for jpeg probably main reasons. Bought it. A 10MP cut from that @ 240mm was same image size and better than the 18PM at 270 (400 equiv full image). But do agree increasing MP no longer guarantees massive improvements.

[@mikafoxx2717]

​@@johnwinter6061I mean, those first two probably had tiny sensors though. The 5D is worth like 200 bucks maybe now, and it has a fantastic sensor.

[@johnwinter6061]

@@mikafoxx2717 Of course. That Olympus RRP was $AUD2,000. I paid about $AUD1,200 circa 2004. Has x10 optical zoom (rare back then) 3MP. Oh so slow delay on acting. I took some pics of jumping crocs in the NT. Had to click as soon as they broke the water to get a full length jump. I still have it. The Fuji was mirrorless 6MP with fixed optical zoom. There was debate about whether it was genuine 6 MP. Think it was a 3MP sensor but used the sensor twice to obtain 6MP. Much better than the Olympus. Still have it. Thought it might be a good starter hand me down to the grandkids. Nup - I didn't count in iPhones getting so good and them getting them so young! Had a photo taken on board the Oasis (RCL). Loved the ship and the photo. Took it into my camera shop and said I wanted a camera which could do the same. Funnily the staff in the shop debated whether it was done on FF or APS-C! That was in 2012. We are STILL debating FF v APS-C! Ended up buying 600D 18MP + Tamron EF-S 18-270. Loved that for 10 years. Moved onto RP + RF24-240. Now love that. I did some comparison tests before I bought. The RP 26MP FF @240 and cropped was better than a full image on the 600D APS-C 18MP @270! Yes, there are now a lot of second hand mirrored bodies cheap. Sort of 'nothing wrong with them'. Sort of nothing wrong with my grandfather's folding brownie, my Kodak Retinette and my Ricoh SLR. (Forget my Kodak Instamatic 204. Rubbish.) Composition is the critical factor. But I missed the advantages of the Fuji mirrored and glad to get them back with the RP. Just on weight alone. My 600D + Tamron 18-270 was about 1.1Kg. I was Ok with that. My RP + RF24-240 comes in at about 1.2kg! It feels lighter because it's shorter and smaller. FF in mirrored would have been about 2kg and about double the price or more because of the extra glass needed. By the way I solved my FF v APS-C. The test out fixed it. What I had v what I could get rather than new v new. Nikon zoom stopped at 200 and was a little dearer. I was used to Canon so stuck with them. This year I added R50 + RF100-400! Nothing like overload for the odd long reach! Interchangeable batteries and lenses!

[@elijahmodnar1]

SONY RX1 is so light so defo put some accessories on it, hood, soft shutter button, wrist/neck strap ;)

[@HakimieAnuar]

I’ve only realised when I recently restarted photography. I shoot videos now on a Sony FX30 and I’m loving it. One day I had a mate ask me if I could do a photoshoot of his motorcycle. I only had a Fujifilm XT2 with a 23mm on it, which I used as an ‘out and about’ camera, but I accepted it and did it for him. Once I edited the RAW files, that’s where I realised. I’m shooting on such an old-ish camera but the quality is insane. If someone else had gone for that photoshoot with an XT2 with the same results I had, I would say that he is lying. That also has translated to my video work. When I got the FX30, i was still thinking of an upgrade to an FX3 or the next gen FX3. But now come to think of it, if the XT2 can match a high end camera, then an FX30 definitely can. 100% keeping both the XT2 and FX30 for photo and video respectively.

[@FeralGinger]

man, the eternal hunt is frustrating. I recently sold my RX1R & the viewfinder after using it for a few months and making a video on it. I couldn't believe that is almost entirely funded a near mint condition Leica Q Typ 116, and for NOW that is my EDC and is a huge upgrade in terms of fun handling but I'm right there with you with my eye constantly on the niche cameras. My professional kit if the Original Lumix S5 (banger for the money) and a Fuji X-T4 but part of me wants to trade them both for something that's worse but more enjoyable to use... we're a weird bunch. Keep up the amazing work man!

[@DavidMBanes]

4:24 I'm bouncing around at the moment. Have loved the summer shooting people at car shows but now it's winter I'm randomly looking for things to photograph. Did manage a few hours in London Wednesday that was fun shooting architecture in mono. Whilst in London I popped into LCE on Strand and was really surprised that the RX1 with lens was the same size as my X-M1 with the 27mm TTArtisan lens. Luckily no budget to PX otherwise I'd be back on the learning curve!

[@jumpingartkids]

You probably know this this already, but I just thought of sharing this zone focus hack on the RX1. Looking forward to your next RX1 video!

[@Meowwentthedino]

This video especially at 1:03 echos one of my sayings - "the photographer makes the photo, the camera is the tool to capture it" I'm truly a huge believer in the concept of if a person with a high-end camera can't take a good photo what's the point in them having new fancy camera if a photographer can take a good photo with a lower end or older camera then they can do photography. At the end of the day a camera is just a tool to capture a moment and as a photographer it's your job to make that photo what it is that's why if ever I upgrade a camera buy a new lens it's to experiment with a new piece of glass try a different style or it's a strategical upgrade to replace something broken something old that's not to say I can't experiment and feel like what I've bought isn't worth my money or it feels like a step back because it ultimately can but as a tool if I see the value in upgrading then I will and I'm at this point in my photography journey after the 14 years of doing so I'm at this point where I don't feel like I need to upgrade or get a new camera yeah new lens would be great vintage glass you know try different cool effects new filters but cameras nowadays really the big difference for me is it's only a little bit better at low light than my 16 Mark 2 okay it's mirrorless and it has a higher frame rate cool do I need it no.

[@yesteryearcameras]

You're so right.. Everything looks the same. That's the reason digicams were coming up. And nearly every camera of the last 10, 12 years is so good! If you're not a pro and shoot with passion, it's good enough...(IMO)

[@geireplekake820]

Even 15-20 years id say, d200 or EOS 5D original would still give great images.

[@yesteryearcameras]

@geireplekake820 that's right! My answer was related to the "modern" mirrorless cameras. I therms of DSLR, there are so many more! 👍🏻

[@StephenHampton_DesignDesk]

Oooh, your Minolta X-700. Love it. I still have my Minolta X-300. Still my favourite camera today. I so desparately wish we could get a digital camera like it - huge optical viewfinder, simple light metering, manual focus only and even it takes a manual shutter release cable. I'd buy it in a heartbeat! (It might even be the world's best studio camera. Perhaps Hasselblad could do the same and bring out a digital copy of the 500 series. Maybe Pentax will be brave enough to do it...

[@N1K_MKII]

Dear George, i took my step back and invested 150$ in an almost brand new Olympus Stylus 1. This Camera is now my everyday carry camera 😊 My a9 and e-m1 are now only for Sport events. I found little to none coverage about this Stylus 1 Camera ... give it a try, you won't regret it. Greetings from germany Nik

[@darkomilosavljevic697]

I found my niche. And now I rock Sony HX5 and W115.

[@Bonsees]

I shoot for fun so I’m definitely in the emotional side of things~ the camera don’t have to have the best autofocus etc. I want something that inspires me use it and shoot 😊 so I resonate with the points you made here. But as emotional as I am, I probably won’t ever get a Leica M11D hahaha

[@GeorgeHolden]

Completely relate! And yeah me neither 😅

[@Bonsees]

@@GeorgeHolden 🙈

[@bencompson]

My experience has been totally different. I went from the Nikon D200 to the D750 and then to the Z7. Each of these steps provided significant differences in image quality. At the end of the day megapixels do matter. I think the key to avoiding what you're talking about is not upgrading too soon. I only upgrade when there will be definite image and performance improvements.....unless something fails....like my D750 which got completely submerged in water. I used it for 3 or 4 years after that but then it had some reliability issues. The only time I felt like a step back was with the Z7's auto focus which is not as good as the D750. But the image quality difference is astonishing. This is in part due to the megapixels but in larger part due to the Nikon Z line of lenses. Still, that's and integral part of the upgrade. What is even more important to me is that which each upgrade I've have grown as a photographer and have produced better images. It is a popular fad on KZbin photography videos to downplay gear and megapixels. And that's fine. But in the end gear does matter. Not advocating for getting on the "latest thing" treadmill. But never underestimate the potential of a well-timed and well considered gear upgrade.

[@mikafoxx2717]

The question is, does 45mp make a better photo for the same composition on a 4k monitor? No, it doesn't change a thing unless you print it 60" across or crop a micro 4/3 or less chunk out of it.

[@bencompson]

@@mikafoxx2717 Sure. I've got 19x13 inch prints from my 10 mp D200 that look as good now as they did then. But the ability to crop is a huge issue. I can crop a Z7 image by half and still get the same resolution as my D750. And that is not solely just a composition issue. That makes every lens you own that much more versatile. So when does that argument break down? 100 mp? 200 mp? The answer to that is what you can afford and how big a files you're willing to store. Otherwise, most major manufacturers are making lenses that will resolve beautifully at 100 mp. Win-win if you have the cash and the storage space. But that brings up another more important issue than megapixels and I mentioned it above. With the larger Z mount, Nikon has stepped up its game in terms of lens quality over the older F mount lenses. Nikon's and other 3rd party like Sigma's Z mount lenses are simply astonishing. I could not believe it. Do I need that level of quality over my D750 and the high end lenses I had with it? Probably not. But again, The D750 was dying and it was time to upgrade. The point being, upgrade when you need to or have to or when the gains are significant. Agree with the video that chasing every latest new camera and lens is silly. Unless that's what you enjoy. Which is fine too.

[@matthewsinger]

with film cameras, the film you loaded in them made all the difference too, and boy where there niche groups for every film stock. If digital cameras all look the same, it's because the sensors are basically all the same. And most are using Sony sensors (Canon being an exception) with bayer arrays. It starts getting interesting when other sensor technologies are used which impact how the color spectrum reacts and thus differentiates the look coming from different cameras. I wish we had digital cameras with swappable sensors that we could use for different purposes.

[@Bleghcix]

I have a lumix g3, a 25mm 1.7 prime and a 14-42mm, and I think that all of this came for under 350/400 euros, also two slr and often I think about upgrading my gear both buying another slr (or a rangefinder or any other analog option) or buying a more modern camera but when I really think about it and comparing to my actual gear I really have a hard time seeing the point of spending all that money for doing exactly the same thing. Just pointing and shooting and looking at things and freezing them. It would be cool to have a new shiny camera? Absolutely, but taking photo it’s not about the gear, it’s about what motives you on going out

[@flightmonkeyuk6944]

I have found that mirrorless like my Olympus OM-1 is the “spotify” of cameras, recent DSLR’s are “CD’s” (a little more experience, narrowing of the mind and tactility) and then earlier DSLR’s like my canon 5d classic and/or film cameras are the “vinyl” of photography, very slow nice clunky and tactile to use and really experience your journey of the day using them.

[@ittotaq]

thats why i shot on my d90 for 16 years

[@bovrilla]

I've had loads of cameras and wasted loads of money. Despite getting into full frame with the Pana S5 and a bunch of micro four thirds stuff which I still use, I find the RAW files that came out of the entry-level Canon 1100D looked nicer? And I tended towards just using the incredibly flimsy Canon 50mm 1.8 with it. Will probably pick one up again one day.

[@gtaliano]

I've bought my T7i new in 2019 , it was my first "serious camera" . Wanted an M5 but it was not available here, or it was way overpriced if I tried to import it by myself. My "special lens" is a Sigma 30 F1.4 ART.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Good selection!

[@Soundwave857]

0:35 its more like trickle up basic features to the pro cameras with sony :'D

[@ChrisBrogan]

Great teaser for the three month review. Now I'm on the edge of my seat. I feel what you're talking about. All the cameras are mostly the same with minor variations. I "spiced it up" yesterday by ordering one of those Helios 44 lenses from the former USSR. But that's just the glass. The body? It'd be fun to have a capable but much dummer camera. I guess I used the GRiiiX kind of like that. But still. It's not dumb. Just easy to pretend it is. Plus, no viewfinder. ;)

[@GeorgeHolden]

Grab your popcorn! Got to say no viewfinder turns out to be an issue for me, I do miss it now 😅

[@cameraprepper7938]

I swithched my Sony A7RIV to a A7RV and it felt like a step FOREWARDS !!!

[@HenAndPenn]

Have a D3300 and later found a D200 at a local shop for $70 usd

[@GeorgeHolden]

Very nice!

[@RetroRedLight-ue1ry]

Photography is really about gety a education. Gear is a tool.

[@DavidMBanes]

I've been thinking the same about all these hybrid cameras and flippy screens, what about us photo only people, a tilt screen and EVF please.

[@Markchristiankc]

That recovery software would have saved my ass a couple months ago 😂😂 dang

[@GeorgeHolden]

Use my link brah 🥳

[@paulodefeyter]

George, that's because you don't shoot with a large format camera or use historical processes like wet plate collodium... Once you get into Large Format, it feels like a major upgrade from any puny weeny smally "full frame" digital camera... Did you ever tried a Rolleiflex?

[@GeorgeHolden]

I am hoping to get a rollei at some point!

[@gobgobcachoo]

I cried a little when I shot 6x9 medium format camera with slide film. Cried because it was beautiful and because it's so expensive. But worth it

[@paulodefeyter]

@@GeorgeHolden George, don't hold back and don't "invent" excuses not to get one. With it you also will need a light meter, but for this you can use an app...but get this: street photography with a Rolleiflex or Rolleicord (or Mamyia) is the way to go...

[@paulodefeyter]

@@gobgobcachoo what do you mean expensive? A Rolleiflex in working order cost between 300 to 400€... A normal pro-level camera costs around 1400€... Do you know how many rolls and developments you can do with that 1.000€ difference? :)

[@gobgobcachoo]

@@paulodefeyter I get eight shots per roll on a 6x9 frame. Fresh Velvia and ektachrome is not cheap, nor is good processing and good scans cheap in comparison to how I shoot bulk loaded HP5 and develop at home and print at home. I could spend $300 in film and processing costs over a productive streak. Where as shooting with 35 is much cheaper per shot. Still, if something calls for the medium format camera, I oblige it.

[@lukebusellato2542]

this is why i bought a 20yo rangefinder

[@earlfenwick]

That rx has been calling my name for a long time. Maybe it's time to answer.

[@GeorgeHolden]

It's an interesting specimen

[@filipbueno]

oh man, I've hoarded so many cameras but my favourite 3 of all time cam's that go to the bag are sigma dp2s, rx1 and samsung nx500. Samsungs are the utter niche, ye didn't touch it yet, don't ye?

[@GeorgeHolden]

I've not yet poked the bag of Samsung but perhaps one day

[@hihellothere9569]

I wanted to buy a 200$ camera. There's a whole lot of options but damm i wish there was better options

[@Paul_anderson_creative]

Difference between Niche Leica M11D and say mass sale Sony A7s is that Leica profit per unit is astronomical (selling a Panasonic basically) and that snob value makes them an asset that pften appreciates in value, not always a tool.. whereas Sony etc make small profit at volume with incremental 'upgrades'..🙏

[@gobgobcachoo]

Oh snap. An M11 is a Panasonic 😂 Come on dude. I know what you meant, but this is just bad false equivalencies.

[@matthieuzglurg6015]

The M11D is not a panasonic lol. Its sensor is from Sony, and everything else, from the processor, to the assembly is from Leica. Literally nothing is from Panasonic in M bodies. If you want to see some overlap with the Lumix S line, look to the SL line of Leica cameras, or their compact Lux cameras. But not the M line.

[@GeorgeHolden]

I think only like the S1 is equivalent to one of the SL cameras right? But fair point in profit margins... Mmmm tasty margins

[@jupiterman7]

You'd think with Sony releasing so many cameras so often they would try for something more specialized...

[@GeorgeHolden]

More vlog cameras

[@Markchristiankc]

Also WHERE DID YOU GET THAT DANCING APPLE EMPLOYEE 😂😂😂😂😂

[@GeorgeHolden]

Lord of the memes

[@hyonkwon9322]

It's the same until you get a free Hasselbald X2d + Free Trip! ^^

[@SernieDavidNaungayan]

Its weird isnt it. My trusty GH4 still feels better than any new sony camera (got the zve10ii. Its totally subjective sure.

[@Teslien]

Photographers want but won't pay for the direction anymore. Read the Sony semiconductor news page, you'll see they've been cooking up many sensor types. They could release a global sensor point n shoot at ~16mega pixels, but they won't cause a lot of people are too hung up on "it's not as good as xyz camera" or they're too busy paying for overpriced camera products. Your video is another reason why others dislike getting into the hobby. The perfectionist mentality after many iterations when most people can't crack a thousand different photos per day is an odd perspective. And yes, I do watch these videos to counter this off sentiment when the video maker has less than a few shots taken outside their household as their evidence to the argument.

[@RainIndex]

I hate this video because of the implication that most people get a nifty fifty before learning manual exposure instead of spending 1 and a half years trying to afford any new gear at all and mastering their camera before buying any My suffering is not validated Nah jk nice vid

[@trip_the_deep]

gosh, street photography was a much more elegant art when people everywhere were not 300 lbs...

[@pauldby1479]

Certain used cameras have a high price because Japan is out of touch with what customers really want - that is why China now dominates interesting new lens offerings -cameras will be next

[@PekaVuite]

First again 😊

[@GeorgeHolden]

Yes you are!

[@BartRos1980]

Nah bro

[@GeorgeHolden]

To the general sentiment or something specific?

[@colingerard7863]

Hi George. The no mans land of this or that camera is akin to the incomplete requiem mass by Mozart. However, on a positive note, every day is a good day for cake. Laters...

[@thechappist]

I appreciate youtube offering the translate to English button for your comment. lol