Why YouTube hiding Dislikes makes ZERO sense.

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KZbin recently made the startling decision to take away the public dislike count on all videos. A video by Matt Koval on the KZbin Creators channel explained the action as if it was a small thing we will get used to, since "other websites don't even have a dislike button", but the issue here is that other websites are not like KZbin, which happens to be the 2nd biggest search engine in the world, home to a lot of how to videos, tutorials, and advice videos where a rating system is crucial to aiding the viewer discern between what is and what isn't trustworthy. In short, hiding dislikes across KZbin is a terrible move. In this video we discuss why.
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#KZbin #Dislikes #notgood

[@andrei]

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[@hiroshi7025]

NOOOOO

[@pyeitme508]

Meh

[@lokib.7378]

No

[@wizardofthegalaxy8923]

Lol u liked ur own video

[@snappishorc_legacy8506]

They got the goose!!!

[@NadeExists]

"We do not want anyone to get scammed on youtube" and that is why we are removing an essential tool used to identify scams. Thanks youtube.

[@CommanderSlayers]

Well KZbin would probably give a answer such as "Well you can just report the video"

[@sambreyer7344]

@@CommanderSlayers which is stupid because it scarcely does any thing unless the video is illegal in some way. Honestly KZbin cares so little about their own platform. All they care about is if the video is makin that cheddar cheese

[@new_delhi]

@@CommanderSlayers Even reporting a video would most likely do nothing, unless it's something really bad. All they care about is keeping people on their platform for longer so that more ads play.

[@DaCheeseIsEpicSubToHim]

@@sambreyer7344 hey

[@sambreyer7344]

@@DaCheeseIsEpicSubToHim Did i summon you?

[@QyfieK]

The weirdest thing about the removal is that the creator still has access to the dislikes. They're not protecting small creators at all, only the big advertisers.

[@user-kk3nd6fh6b]

LITEREALLY AND IT'S SO OBVIOUS

[@evdawg9258]

Also if there’s not a function to the viewers they’re not gonna use it which is useless for creators

[@silashurd3597]

I know right?! So what even is the whole point?! Answer: there is none!

[@AnoAssassin]

Lmaooo the whole point of them feeling bad still applies wholesale

[@cupio-stardust]

I can’t see the dislikes on my videos though.

[@catkook543]

KZbin : *removes dislikes* viewers : *Gets an extension that lets them view the dislikes anyways*

[@AphexKirlia]

R/BeatMeTolt

[@Appregator]

Looks like the extensions ceased working too now. Does yours still work ?

[@catkook543]

@@Appregator still working for me im on Firefox, i believe chrome is doing stuff to hinder extinctions that they dont like

[@Appregator]

Thanks chaps. Mine is partially working now on Firefox 64 bit, but I can't see dislikes on individual comments though.

[@catkook543]

@@Appregator ah yeah the dislikes on comments isn't addressed by the extension

[@RightBoyKA-POW]

I feel like this whole time, there was someone who's like "The Voice of Reason" who used to work at the KZbin Headquarters, but he got fired, and ever sense then, KZbin has been making awful changes that NOBODY really asked for!!!

[@mariamalgorzata4974]

why was he fired?

[@RightBoyKA-POW]

@@mariamalgorzata4974 See that's the thing. There's no reason why said person was fired. KZbin is just making these awful changes for no reason.

[@mariamalgorzata4974]

@@RightBoyKA-POW yea youtube is fucked up as hell only cares about money.

[@voiceofreason1613]

I told them it was such a bad idea

[@RightBoyKA-POW]

@@voiceofreason1613 That username though 😂🤣

[@drewhigbee815]

Pewdiepie made a good point about this how almost all of the most disliked videos on KZbin are made by companies, that's who this is really to protect.

[@spycowboi2190]

Wow that's a great argument, i really was wondering why would they do that

[@packrunnerkev]

Wow that's a great argument, i really was wondering why they would do that

[@actuatioN352]

Wow that's a great argument, I really was wondering why they would do that

[@rolosilver3256]

Huh?

[@minecraftpiglinmattspoemsd2287]

What's happening, did I or Rolo break the chain-

[@Anxierine]

"Coordinated dislike attacks" They really got offended by the bad rewinds feedback huh👩‍💻

[@GTAVictor9128]

Oh, that's hot!

[@bigboykenob2244]

That’s Hot!

[@Ash-dj5ph]

It's December and another rewind is on the way so....

[@mrstarfox910]

@@Ash-dj5ph sorry to break it to you but they stopped doing it because they forgot how to do it, it’s on Twitter where they said it

[@Ash-dj5ph]

@@mrstarfox910 shiat bruh I didn't know that

[@GSFigure]

The fact that they remove dislikes actually causes smaller channels to be suspected of bad ratings, because you can only see half of the story for what the videos are worth. KZbin, in the attempt of "protecting smaller channels", has instead shot every small channel's foot.

[@madteacup]

first thing i thought when i heard about the dislike removal is the fact that videos with an insane amount of dislikes has saved me several times from shady videos and lies edit: the fact it hasent been fixed yet shows how youtube doest care about us

[@betterchapter]

We're just gonna see hundreds of single word comments: dislike

[@theneochickens]

YES! We need this.

[@konuke6807]

@@theneochickens its already started...

[@gladoshrh0832]

*Like*

[@chickenz1]

I would use +1 dislike

[@endernitesbros4822]

#dislikesmatter!

[@Dev-mh1zb]

They claim this is for the small creators, but literally everyone doesn’t want this

[@jehhh7794]

The creators can still see dislikes too

[@zobr0s77]

I mean if small creators are so fed up with dislikes, can't they just disable it on there own KZbin's reason doesn't make any sense

[@thenjry]

A creator being spammed with dislikes can feel hurt. To address this, we are... making it so only the creator can now see the dislikes...? It's so incredibly obvious WHICH "CREATORS" this change was for, to anyone engaging their brain for 5 seconds.

[@Gamer-39]

@@thenjry i heard on reddit that its just for the media incase they spread fake news then ppl who see the news for first time cant just tell if its true or na unless they do hevy research about the channal n shit (most of the times comments are off or the creator can delete comments but dislikes cant be removed thats y youtube is reomveing dislike button according to me at least)

[@jonasthemovie]

The White House is a small creator.

[@aice279]

if you care so much about the small creators...promote their videos. Don't just stick with trendind channels and extreme thumbnails but like actually give small channels a chance to be seen. thank you

[@justawyrm]

They do, sometimes. There is the youtuber “The Average Hylian” who honestly was great and because of recommendations ive been seeing his whole journey and “advancenine” who i havent been watching from the beginning but have less than 17k subs and i am now one of them but your point is still valid, they dont do it enough

[@bcbdjane]

maybe they could add the featured videos section again

[@realnub235]

Wow this video has zero dislikes, just shows how much the audience is with you!!

[@UnpatternedGarbage]

In all honesty tho, 141K likes for only 1.3M views is quite an impressive ratio.

[@jonathanpenado5342]

I love how everyone says this is a bad idea, and youtube hasn't changed it yet. It really shows how little they care for us viewers and creators

[@popstel2286]

Soon KZbin will shut down and l will move to Tik tok. It would still sucks but l have nowhere to go :'( Edit: if another person is replying to this lmma break someones' knee caps Edit 2: I’ve changed my opinions since this comment so leave my notifications alone

[@lhanzhere3628]

@@popstel2286 nah i rather be in an app where theres no dislikes than tiktok the cringe app Edit: Stop replying to this comment and its just my opinion

[@jospinmeshe6667]

@@lhanzhere3628 faxx

[@justlixian293]

@@popstel2286 what a great grammar coming from you. and no, tiktok will never replace tiktok. tiktok are just shorts videos with almost no info at all. youtube have documentation and doesnt sell your data. odysee is the best replace for youtube

[@cilliancronin6327]

@@justlixian293 KZbin sells data, every website that's free sells data. How do you think ads work?

[@Kap_NYC]

This is one of those moments where *everyone* disagrees with what happened.

[@fernadogonzalez2940]

Well you can also buy an anti materiel rifle and fire them at your nearest youtube ofiice

[@maxmajerowicz5830]

When.

[@Kap_NYC]

@@fernadogonzalez2940 👀

[@pusheenheart312]

except for scammers probably

[@hooman2459]

Personally, I agree.

[@MrJoshcc600]

But if it's harassing creators... Why can creators still see dislikes....

[@menartd2618]

That's a question you need to ask KZbin.

[@emma_nutella58]

What I hate about the dislike removal, is I can’t go on those blackhead removal videos knowing it’s gonna be good or not because the dislikes tell me if the video isn’t worth it, or the removal isn’t done properly

[@cluster4583]

So you see bad content often? ngl your algorithm sucks really bad if you face this as an issue. because most people never face these bad videos because of the advanced algorithm which recommend you videos based on what you've watched. and there are a lot of to her ways to see whether or not the video is bad like checking the channel and ofc the comment section.

[@lagartopunkarra]

They're not removing the dislike button because "small creators". They're removing it because large companies are threatening them to remove their ads from the website.

[@GTAVictor9128]

[*Ahem*] GTA5 Expanded and Enhanced!

[@andrewchavez5455]

Exactly!!

[@mixazizu]

@M A C H I K O_____[👇] not interested

[@Dabuddah]

that and Joe Biden lmfao

[@themasterprocrastinator4933]

@M A C H I K O_____[👇] I know I should just report this and move on like a mature person, no need to reply, but like.... REPORTEDDDDDDD

[@JeffGeerling]

I think all of us had that tiny glimmer of hope that KZbin would not go through with this... but here we are, and they did it. _Le sigh_

[@popstel2286]

I hate KZbin... When l first joined, it was dumb but at least it's not stupid...

[@Ttegegg]

@@popstel2286 me and KZbin. Bad blood

[@yhok7694]

Yeah

[@JokerDaJokester]

@T A N I A • © bot

[@jumpyyjasminee5315]

@@popstel2286 love and hate relationship ya know! Still better than twitter and tiktok (sometimes)

[@peterfuzz8238]

Another problem with removing dislikes is that there will be a lot more hate comments on peoples videos, as they cannot simply press dislike, which would hurt the small creators more.

[@MustacheCashStash125]

What’s even the point of hiding dislikes publicly but showing them privately if they’re trying to save people’s self esteem? They can still see it. Damn, KZbin is run by a bunch of dummies.

[@huntercool2232]

KZbin in 2030: “We're disabling comments to protect small creators from hateful criticism!”

[@MrCrow-tl5tv]

They already did on the youtube kids videos

[@Sillykat420]

Optimistic to think it's that far out. I wouldn't be too surprised if they come out with that bs just a year or two down the line.

[@gxlollymorry547]

2040: we are removing the like Button to protect small creator by bots

[@liansmith5174]

@@gxlollymorry547 2050: we are removing the videos to protect small creators from hate

[@MustacheCashStash125]

@@liansmith5174 Basically the entire website.

[@huntercool2232]

Everyone: **Giving Valid Criticism** KZbin: “There is no war in Ba Sing Se.”

[@fantasion_voidv.4412]

Oh i hated that part it gave me nightmares

[@gabbileite]

god this comment is criminally underrated

[@novepipps]

Underrated comment lol

[@darianbarber3763]

KZbin Chinese edition: Nothing ever happens in Tiananmen Square, we were just protecting the rice farmers

[@gladys1002]

there is no war in Ba Sing Se

[@CozyGlow625]

In my opinion, disliking a youtube video is encouraging the creator to produce better quality videos. And if people don't like criticisms, then either don't start KZbin at all,or hide the dislike count on you're video. KZbin removing the dislike count was a really nasty and honestly selfish move, considering they did it because the KZbin rewind 2018 became even more disliked than Baby. You know what's even more stupid than anything else KZbin has done? That content creators can still see the dislike count,but regular viewers can't. Why go though the effort ( and controversy) to hide it from us,but keep it for KZbinrs,who are probably more affected by dislikes than we are. It just doesn't make sense in my eyes. What they should have done is provide an option that let's us enable and disable the dislike count at any time,for both KZbinrs and regular viewers. That way, if the video's creator feels bad for the amount of dislikes, they can disable it,and then re-enable once they start producing videos that are well-liked. And we could still see the dislikes. I hope one day KZbin will come to thier senses,and bring back the dislike count. With this change, they're telling us that disliking a video is " mean",wich is completely false,since if KZbin rewind 2018 never happened,the dislike would still be here. 👎🏻

[@Rorschach97]

Hiding the dislike count was a stupid choice

[@chrisk6637]

And water is liquid

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

Inb4 KZbin gets rid of subscriptions because every creator is equal...

[@Igyzone]

You tell 'em, mustacheless guy!

[@foxernia]

Inb4 KZbin Removes Replies entirely saying that most people are scammers sending links

[@cryptic2121]

If they removed dislikes, at this point I’m not surprised if they remove subs too…

[@3pxo274]

love you my guy

[@sadgary6144]

Don't fvcking give KZbin ideas

[@deltalord6969]

This is one of the reasons why competition is important. Without it we end up with situations like this.

[@Stoned_Coyote]

100% right. We need to throw this corporitism system out and bring true capitalism back where these monopolies can no longer buy out or stomp out those they can't buy.

[@professorcube5104]

@@Stoned_Coyote why not just switch to socialism

[@snailbert147]

@@professorcube5104 what about communism?

[@herredward9277]

@@snailbert147 I mean, the logo's already red soo... screw it, bring Mao.

[@kudari.nobori]

@@professorcube5104 I mean it's very hard to make socialism work

[@ShafiqYoutube81]

KZbin is very insecure of what they do

[@mundodacrianca2147]

4:14 Now my mother permanently banned KZbin because I can't judge how good a video is without the dislikes. My father died because of a tutorial of how to make a fruit soup and the video told him to put it in the microwave to heat it up. Unfortunately he didn't know that grapes in the microwave explode your house

[@guynextdoorgg8386]

Can you sue youtube

[@billnocolis9368]

PLEASE SUE KZbin

[@antoniocortes3901]

I like how literally EVERYBODY sees through this though. They'd be wise to bring the feature back.

[@Slydime917]

well yeah because it's not logical in any way. You only need the most basic primitive common sense in order to understand why this is bad

[@notme9915]

We saw through KZbin more quicker than invisible glass

[@kauradam]

Yeah. I really do hope they bring it back

[@charlesquinton9127]

If KZbin's history with this type of situation is any indicator they won't. KZbin and "Admitting they were wrong" go about as well together as Dream and confessing to cheating.

[@shanerabourn9339]

I have gone through 10-16 bad tutorials for minecraft commans and it sucks when there's no more dislike.

[@r8di833]

This whole situation just shows how KZbin doesn't actually listen to their creators or their community. They like to make changes that nobody asked for and doesn't fix actual problems like Copyright,etc...

[@yourmorningcupofcoffee4313]

@ME before anyone clicks on this, it’s a prayer or sermon. someone attempting to bring religion into a situation that has nothing to do with it (which ultimately undermines that religion)

[@sir_cabbage1170]

Kinda like Valve with TF2. Putting out constant cosmetic additions while totally ignoring actual content like new weapons or game modes, as well as *THE HUGE FUCKING BOT CRISIS* .

[@NetWebUser]

I swear the inappropriate ads that bots post like T A N I A are everywhere now. Ysed to not be that much now I see it everywhere what is going on?

[@sanashajudeen9469]

I mean true but..is copyright that bad?

[@ajq1635]

"woah is our algorithm ruining a lot of channels for no reason?" "We are removing dislikes"

[@Allizack.]

Thankfully somebody made an extension that lets you see the dislikes again

[@avalonjustin]

I saw an overwhelming dislike to like ratio on a video supporting transgender things. I'm betting that pressure from special interest groups is one of the main reasons KZbin did this. The other reason would be to make KZbin more advertiser friendly by removing criticism via dislikes.

[@huntercool2232]

As PewDiePie himself said: *”Yes KZbin. If something doesn’t exist it discourages me from doing it. I could’ve told you that.”*

[@shadowd9810]

@@Topsailpirateexperience I would actually argue with that. Atleast from my POV its more about right than left, like that's the whole point. I don't know how to explain it

[@buhlenkuna8307]

@@Topsailpirateexperience while it mostly silences left wing content and promote right wing content/politics?

[@shadowd9810]

@@Topsailpirateexperience I say it as like the censorship is right biased, atleast from my perspective. An year ago I was into politics (far left) and I mean that KZbin is acting kinda like far right governments. I'm not sure towards who they are biased because I'm not into shitty American politics and I don't follow channels about politics.

[@Vienic2]

@@Topsailpirateexperience KZbin is a tool for banning anything that is against its agenda left or right will both get wiped.

[@buhlenkuna8307]

@@Topsailpirateexperience Really? Most political ads I've seen are for the right, KZbin has been slammed all over the internet for silencing progressive videos and only through multiple reports will them remove far right, problematic videos

[@DerpCells]

The thing with removing disliking, is that people will take the next step. If people can't dislike, they will send angry comments, or worse. Removing the dislike feature will actually make things more toxic, rather than the intended effect of making things more friendly. It's like going in a friendly fight but someone says "You can't use your hands for this fight", in that case, dropkicks and broken teeth will be the norm.

[@halinaqi2194]

People will just make comments then videos, forum posts and or social media posts about how much they dislike the content. I dont see how removing dislikes makes the platform less toxic, it just manifests somewhere else.

[@awaywiththefaeries9464]

KZbin: We’ll remove comments then. *People make reaction videos to content they dislike* KZbin: We’ll remove videos then KZbin in 2050: just a load of ads.

[@gachadlll3530]

I never even though about that. This comment needs more likes, because it's actually speaking FACTS.

[@gachadlll3530]

@@halinaqi2194 Exactly.

[@CrazyDash9]

Oh yeah negative comments are way worse than dislikes

[@FactsCustomizer]

I like to imagine that KZbin personally adds dislikes for only this video because they're offended

[@RVBMichaelJCaboose]

“This patient has cancer, but maybe if I don’t tell them that they have cancer, it won’t be a problem.” The removal of dislikes in a nutshell.

[@togepipi]

Or "Doc I'm Ready For Surgery" "You Don't Need It" "Why I'm Gonna Die" "Only You See The Problem I'll Hide It"

[@herredward9277]

Ah yes, like Schrodinger.

[@monkeyg2420]

69th like

[@minecraftpiglinmattspoemsd2287]

Probably: "Is my pet dead?" "Don't worry we'll hide it in the dumpsite so your mental health won't be affected"

[@grandstarstudiosFORMER-YT]

YOUR ARE CORRECT

[@JellyJessYT]

I'm surprised they didn't do this earlier tbh, with the amount of hate KZbin Rewind got every year lol

[@penguinstudios2813]

Fair point

[@renx202]

I'm pretty sure they do it for companies sake, but I like to believe they remove it cause of the hate they got for the recent youtube rewinds. Love your videos by the way!

[@Stan.Mozzarella]

Omg jelly Jess hi

[@sayorirevived2530]

Ego was destroyed.

[@katewhitten3418]

Good one

[@KanchoMan69420]

It's 2023 now, the dislikes are just distance memories. I don't even remember what they looked like anymore.

[@mrjuicejunior]

Same Hit a cig with me with these times while almost everyone moved on forgetting about the dislikes in the first place or they got an extension 🚬

[@KanchoMan69420]

@@mrjuicejunior u know any safe extensions?

[@mrjuicejunior]

@@KanchoMan69420 on PC, there's Return KZbin Dislikes

[@user-zh5rj6wi9n]

Could you imagine if a company like Amazon removed ratings? That would make shopping at Amazon frustrating and make people not want to buy their products. The reason rating are so important is so you can know what you’re getting into. Same principle applies here, I just can’t believe how low KZbin has stooped, pathetic.

[@kannathedragon7625]

KZbin : "We are removing dislikes to give small creators some voice" Literally everyone including small creators : "No don't" KZbin : "We're doing it anyway"

[@sofijamarkovic6856]

KZbin: "oh did you hear that? Ahhh must've been the wind "

[@VinexAesthetics]

Honestly, if a simple dislike "hurts" the mental health of a snowflake then why are they in the internet in the first place?

[@OurCumrade]

also youtube : "for u creators"

[@mikhaelakolis_]

That is me, im a smol creator LOL, i just want to see the dislike ratios in every vid at this point. :)

[@exoxious]

@@sofijamarkovic6856 Was that a Skyrim reference?!

[@xenomi.1s]

Evil youtube be like: "So....we have listened to our fans."

[@Drolltic]

Truly terrifying

[@DeveloperJake]

If they listened to their fans then this platform would be a lot better I’m actually considering developing my own better version of KZbin soon because of how disconnected they are to their own community

[@Walltuh_]

that's just youtube but they do the opposite of what they say

[@whyareweherejusttosuffer6886]

**closes book** Like that's ever gonna happen

[@heistingcrusader_ad3223]

@@DeveloperJake but you need funding. A lot of funding

[@ffsireallydontcare]

Aaand they actually made the original video private! So much for transparency and "don't be evil". Remember, every anti-consumer pro-advertiser change is made so that Larry Page can afford another private island!

[@Azaleahs]

As someone who's gotten attacked by past friends with tons and tons of dislikes before, this is bs. I could've just hidden my dislikes, don't remove it for everyone.

[@DisHappah]

The biggest kick in their logic is that they're claiming it's to protect small KZbinrs from harsh criticism and hate mobs discouraging them. But the creator can still see the dislikes anyway, so that's just straight bullshit because they're just protecting politicians and people in power that's all.

[@philobetto5106]

this was done because Biden was getting slammed with dislikes and he should be!, but this shows the truth and that's unacceptable

[@OrganicDolphin]

@@philobetto5106 lol republicans LOVEEE bringing Biden into everything. Heard there’s a picnic at the Capitol in January you going this time?

[@vaccinalx]

yea, i saw a video where someone had a news video on youtube from some new company like CNN, and they refreshed the page a ton to see the likes to dislike (before they removed it) and it was at like 90k dislikes and 20k likes, then they refreshed again and it suddenly changed to 100k likes and 10k dislikes, this shows that youtube can control the like to dislike count. Not cool youtube!

[@certifiedawesome7092]

@@OrganicDolphin still better than the democrats lol

[@jokecorn9993]

@@certifiedawesome7092 Ah, an insurrection is worse then what?

[@mighty2468]

KZbin is becoming more focused on the companies and its ads for money then actually becoming a better platform. SMH

[@popstel2286]

I feel like this is gonna be like the whole Vine thing again

[@averagekupal719]

Its basically becoming the tiktok of youtube

[@Sunnykr275]

First they hide the ad point from the video and now this because viewer feels like the video is right no matter what topic its on. Its gonna help them in increase watch time

[@LigmaJohnBalls]

Monopoly is harmful

[@Venus_xx]

Littrally now ads on me are 2mis long And some 18sec cannot be skipped

[@Starship_30]

I still can’t believe that they did this! I remember after not being on KZbin for a year due to loosing I trust then thought, hey maybe I should go back on, I was shocked to see that it was removed! It took me ages to find a reliable video on how to glue a model vehicle kit. And the dislike button was useful when I wanted to find another tutorial the year before!

[@hopeupapostol]

Thank you so much for this video, Andrei. Couldn’t think of a better sum up on the topic, not only the actions taken but also the reasons behind them. I have now a clearer idea and strong arguments to talk about it. Thank you. 🙌🏻

[@huntercool2232]

KZbin: “We’re taking away the Dislike Button!” Nick Wilde: *”For what? Hurting your feelings?”*

[@num1256]

i hope the wikipedia page of THE MOST DISLIKE VIDEO on KZbin still exist just to make sure it for the CREATOR of the platform :)

[@Johanimate]

KZbin: "I miss the part where thats my problem." Sorry I just had to

[@turt4533]

@@num1256 it's funny you think a multi billion dollar company gives a shit about a few of their videos having a bad dislike count..

[@drum4416]

OHHH!!!!!

[@yosute__]

The only ones who went through the "targeted bullying" is youtube themselves with those awful rewinds, what they don't notice is that the community is trying to say something with those dislikes and they take it as just hate. It's so childish... And now I can't trust any tutorials from here because I can't see the dislikes.

[@Raptorade]

Politicians and corporations. There’s the answer behind this

[@lotion5238]

Guess what, youtube is making another rewind. What a coincidence...

[@yosute__]

@@lotion5238 of course... We are all going to love it (we have no other option) lol

[@JanbluTheDerg]

Someone made a browser extension that does its best to add that shit back, because the background stuff still allows code to access the dislike count

[@soyalguienqueestamuyaburri8396]

@@yosute__ everyone is going to dislike it even if we don’t see how many people

[@georgealapatt7445]

Now scammers can freely scam even there are KZbin scam ads

[@Littlesnail-hj5gw]

0:23 … Cheese!

[@Windy_Floof]

no it's spongy from bfdi!

[@harryinglis2535]

​@@Windy_Floof yay fellow person who knows about bfdi

[@xaviidk]

@@harryinglis2535” take a bath you’re stinky”

[@Emerald29]

by protecting "small creators" they meant big sometimes monopolistic corporations with no sense of what their dedicated audience is into so that they can avoid actual good criticism on their garbage.

[@SubjectSigma18]

Also by small creators they mean the ones they have been tormenting since the beginning and not monetizing but still putting ads

[@sodapopcowboy8620]

Bingo!

[@Lensquik]

Spot on.

[@blurdrawsart]

Like Amazon with their new Rings of Power show

[@AURAARlA]

Let’s be honest. Part of the reason they banned dislikes was because they hold the most disliked video on KZbin. If they cared about creators, they’d actually listen to us and figure out a better solution. But I guess they’re too busy falsely striking videos to do anything.

[@Alan_Marin]

*Nah, only Anti-KZbin “Or Metube” would actually listen to their fans…*

[@undeadproscollection5886]

no, what makes no sense is that they could just disable likes / dislikes ratio (a build in feature) which is still stupid to turn off but it still exists, it's like bringing in an atomic bomb to fix a problem, then bringing in a nuke

[@epicaunleashed8764]

All corporate media is following an agenda. They want to silence anything against it. They wanna censor freedom of speech.

[@AURAARlA]

@@epicaunleashed8764 Wow. That’s actually insanely accurate.

[@kezriehayudini9137]

part of it. But there is more to that.

[@MogulOX]

Can’t see if videos are legit or not now, I waste so much time looking for real answers because before, you could see what had more reputation by how many dislikes it had now you can’t see that sucks ass

[@Dusty2763]

KZbin: too bad, were still doing it

[@jaytheoreo_1]

there’s already a feature for creators to hide likes and dislikes this is pure unnecessary

[@popstel2286]

Yep! This whole thing sucks

[@reynarudydharsono603]

lol ik right? if these advertisers want no dislikes and comments, just disable them. whether or not will the viewer trust the video? that's your (advertisers) problem

[@nottipp3789]

No one said it made sense, except KZbin. Even Jawed (The one who posted "Me at the zoo video) stated his opinions about this and how this decision is ultimately negative for the platform. His response is in that videos description. Edit: Yes, Jawed is the co-founder of KZbin.

[@popstel2286]

Yeah, this whole thing sucks butt

[@cinnplayedminecraft]

jawed was the starter of the site, right?

[@harshv_0810]

@@cinnplayedminecraft no he just had the first video

[@cinnplayedminecraft]

@@harshv_0810 k

[@karthiktirumala1773]

@@cinnplayedminecraft he was one of the three founders yeah

[@sarrabensabeur5024]

It been 1 year and KZbin still doesn’t care

[@Imcringe769]

“ *Because your Content is good it makes other people’s shit content look bad, it might hurt their feelings* “

[@buggy9094]

I totally agree, and I’d like to add another point. In removing the dislike button, they don’t “save” small creators from getting their feelings hurt - after all the dislikes are still visible to them. What it DOES do, however, is change the audience’s perception of a video. Keep in mind that CHILDREN make up the majority of the audience on KZbin - with their overall lack in critical thinking skills and desire to just go along to what other say, they may see a couple thousand likes and think “oh I should agree with this video” even if there’s hundreds of thousands of dislikes that are hidden from view. This is a pretty dangerous tool and will definitely by used to spread misinformation and create false narratives. Great video!

[@dqhairr]

they arent visible to them i just checked

[@sus-bn6uk]

yes

[@alesstud]

@@dqhairr then why would dislikes exist lmao, if they don't show up for anyone

[@CrazyBarks]

@@dqhairr What are you on about? If you open your studio, each video you've posted has a Likes vs. Dislikes section on the far right that tells you exactly how many likes and how many dislikes you received on a video along with the percentage and bar ratios.

[@dqhairr]

@@CrazyBarks wierd not for me

[@MasterCoD124]

They've obviously removed dislikes to protect brands/companies. Those companies are the actual customers of KZbin and not the content creators OR the viewers. A lot of people seem to forget this

[@adriansandlin556]

Yep. We are the product.

[@MasterCoD124]

@@adriansandlin556 100%

[@wezley_snipes]

@EMOTIONAL DAMAGE that's illegal

[@marksantiago9841]

KZbin: broadcast yourself…… i miss that.

[@rose_blue1]

That is not true

[@KionLikesFrogs]

As a VERY small creator (yknow, the people yt are "protecting") I will say that removing dislikes is bullshit. I want to see the criticism I receive. Because it helps me know what kind of content people want to see. Just like you said in the video. Dislikes are in my opinion, the most IMPORTANT feature ANY streaming service should have. It lets people know if the video is worth watching, again, as you (and many others) said. And if you take that away, suddenly, extreme cases of illegal things happen. Like scams, tutorials that set peoples houses on fire. Just to name a couple Anyway, sorry for wasting your time on smth everyone already knew, but this is a serious issue. I take my leave

[@druu988]

I wonder if I can sue google for changing my perspective on views, due to the dislike count, not being available

[@dryemiddi8788]

The removal of dislikes was such a hated decision that one of KZbin's CO FOUNDERS (Jawed Karim) spoke out against it. I just hope that KZbin gets some hard hitting accountability for this.

[@sickfitz4256]

Bro even the funny elephant man said this would suck

[@sickfitz4256]

💀

[@HBKnowItAll]

Jawed Karim would make a better CEO than Susan Wojcicki.

[@fiercelypolygons3696]

@@HBKnowItAll In your opinion? Lmao that's a fact. But Karim probably doesn't want to take up the role.

[@IBeforeAExceptAfterK]

They won't unless the government starts regulating social media. Hopefully it happens soon, because I'm convinced that Google, Facebook, and Twitter are going to cause World War 3 if they aren't stopped.

[@awkwardboi7183]

They're just butthurt that the most disliked video in the platform is made by none other but themselves

[@satoru556]

Smart move of them to prepare for the next Rewind

[@peppapigsbasement5530]

They were probably just too embarassed about youtube rewind

[@greatergam2493]

5:43 everything wrong with their respinses in a single sentence.

[@cursorguy]

I think the real reason was not to “protect small creators”. Instead, it was to protect their biggest money maker. The (in my opinion) rightfully dislike bombed biased political “news” videos.

[@Citizensofthe]

They are protecting fox?

[@billyvegas111]

@@Citizensofthe CNN

[@johnathancage]

Oooooo Well now what?

[@rohegarcia2802]

@@billyvegas111 probably both tbh.

[@user-zy2ts8kn7c]

@@billyvegas111 cnn and fox, or weird talk shows like “Texas Making America It’s Bitch Show- Episode #5992: Why I Support the Death Penalty for Abortion” or “New York Prostitutes and Hoes- Why Straight People are a Disease”

[@xfrost5488]

When you realize that the creators of the sonic movie has better understanding for their audience THEN GOD DAMN KZbin

[@gmk9321]

That’s why I still respect sega despite their wonky receptions of games

[@staringcorgi6475]

@@gmk9321 they’re a great company but make eh games

[@gmk9321]

@@staringcorgi6475 yeah but you can at least see their efforts and reasons in their games and videos, unlike KZbin who removed a feature just because they feel like it

[@babynut182]

This really shows how soft the world has gotten smfh

[@Lukazade244]

Imagine having a mental and physical breakdown because someone pressed a button that literally doesn’t affect them irl.

[@matthunter4826]

KZbin in 2024: “We are removing the comments to protect small creators’ mental health.”

[@justarandomperson6035]

I hope they don’t do that!

[@guniverse.5847]

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[@raymond9479]

haha dont

[@Spiritnick]

The moment that happens, someone will inevitably start a new platform out of spite, and 96% of users will jump ship. No use staying on a platform that speaks for the giants and silences the people.

[@joch6552]

@@Spiritnick Unfortunately, only a minority, no more than a quarter will. It’s a kids website, ultimately. The majority of the website is kids, watching crap like CoCoMelon. They’re too stupid or don’t care enough to jump ship, and these changes help creators like Cocomelon and big companies, which is where the money lies. Other creators, that don’t just pump out garbage, will make their own smaller, more niche sites. Maybe one for gaming, one for tutorials, for news, educational stuff, memes, etc. This has already kinda happened with Nebula, which was started by a team of smaller KZbinrs, like Real Life Lore, Wendover Productions, etc. KZbin will probably not even bother competing with them; it would be like Walmart competing with Home Depot.

[@FirstNameLastName1162AD]

Phineas and Ferb: Discovering something that doesn’t exist *A creator who’s happy KZbin is removing dislikes*

[@spencerthegarfieldfanboy2574]

i’ve seen about 2 people who agree with it, and i’ve seen 2787382828388383 that don’t

[@light-lightuser2344]

@Lamda2 lol you also know Axxl I just found out about him a week ago is he ok in the head

[@jamilleyomtown]

Here's one: Content Farms

[@edwinhuang9244]

@@light-lightuser2344 The dude's a troll Im pretty sure

[@jubilanttitan4999]

Yea, I once saw a KZbin who is the leader of a Dreamstan discord server being overjoyed with the removal of dislikes because she thinks everyone is dislike bombing her for no reason, despite her LITERALLY HARASSING ANOTHER KZbinR FOR NO REASON AND FORCING EVERYONE IN HER DISCORD SERVER TO TREAT HER LIKE SHE IS BETTER THAN GOD.

[@ImGreiving]

This reminds me of when they did this for comments. They love pretending it lessened “bullying” which essentially forced people to use words to show their distaste. All that did is create more engagement on videos.. which pushed the content. They know what they’re doing. Because they suggest the button still works… but nobody can see the count… which makes people assume there’s no post so they don’t even bother with the dislikes. As far as videos go, it’s the same thing. They just paint it different as if the dislike button never meant anything. When it was still around, that was a warning sign that the video you’re watching.. is likely gonna be something you don’t enjoy. Whenever I saw videos with more dislikes than likes, I didn’t like the video 100% of the time. They definitely could care less about smaller channels. Removing the dislike count for comments and videos just doubles the engagement. That also allows the stupid creators who thrive off controversial content. Like that guy who makes trillions of videos that always puts “3AM!” In the title or acting like someone died or whatever stupid clickbait they use. If they lowered the cost for premium, I would likely never complain again. But they gotta milk whatever money they can get. Okay I’m done venting.

[@jamingamer2782]

Nobody: KZbin rewind 2018 when dislikes were removed: FINALLY I GET LESS HATE, but still a ton

[@gravy7281]

KZbin: makes dislikes invisible to help creator's mental health Also KZbin: creator's can see them

[@shrekishot6362]

Logic 69,420

[@yourmorningcupofcoffee4313]

@ME before anyone clicks on this, it’s a prayer or sermon. someone attempting to bring religion into a situation that has nothing to do with it (which ultimately undermines that religion)

[@fetchstixRHD]

@@yourmorningcupofcoffee4313: Well, I guess it’s relevant in that there’s no [functional] dislike button to show your disdain for such people 🤔

[@Venus_xx]

Like why we have dislike button on comments 😂

[@Lightning-jc6re]

KZbin would rather remove the dislikes instead of these scammer bots, even going so far as to pretend like they don't exist. Probably because corporations could benefit greatly from using such bots.

[@theterrorofdimensions1326]

It is absolutely ridiculous that the vast majority of people on KZbin says, "No, don't do it. We don't like the change," and KZbin ignores them anyways. All while claiming to listen to us, be our friends, etc. BULL. SHIT.

[@jacobsworld7573]

YES PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE WANTS THE DISLIKE BUTTON AND THEY JUST IGNORE US THE DISLIKE BUTTON REMOVAL IS DOING *NOTHING*

[@exotixzamateurva8957]

Domestic abuse type beat

[@kevinsupreme_ph36yearsago59]

If KZbin keeps making bad decisions like this they'll die in the future & TikTok will replace them, similar to what happened to MySpace when Facebook showed up.

[@CMizzo2000]

OH GOD NO Don't get me started on TikTok >_

[@ina643]

The real reason why they took away dislikes is because of how many dislikes KZbin rewind accumulated.

[@AuRoaraAnimations]

I really like how Andrei uses his own analytics to debunk all of youtubes reasonings behind this

[@NeoGames2]

@ME You bots are literally the reason why the dislike button was invented. Stop botting to send us your arabic musicc videos that steal money.

[@crackers3978]

God I absolutely hate bots

[@haroldinho9930]

@@NeoGames2 they don’t steal money. They’re trying to promote their religion, just like how Christian bots post very long bible verses.

[@master0fthearts894]

The best thing that came out of this whole situation is the memes. “You see, now that the dislike button is removed, I will say the most controversial nonsensical stuff ever and y’all can’t do nothing about it.” These memes help laugh my socks off and cure my soul, but the sad part is that the reason I can laugh about this is because KZbin made a stupid decision.

[@tiruliru1189]

_"KZbin's stupid decision"_ No, it's the WORST DECISION YT EVER MADE.

[@tiruliru1189]

@@blackberyy3450 Okay, I think you're going too far. How about instead: 1. Make the petition to bring back dislikes 2. File lawsuits against KZbin/Google 3. Organize protests/strikes against KZbin/Google

[@sleepy_boi7552]

@@tiruliru1189 nah i think that's acceptable mentally tprturing them is acceptable for a sin this grave

[@r4gam1ng95]

They say that they removed the dislike button because of cyber bullying and other reasons, but I would argue that comments on a video are way more degrading and disrespectful than the dislike button is. If people dislike a video that means that they simply don’t like it.

[@IsuCunei]

The thing is when KZbin removes dislikes it won’t stop hate-campaigns, people will just move to the comments instead, being toxic and saying stupid stuff that could hurt even more than a percentage.

[@minecraftpiglinmattspoemsd2287]

I know right? Dislikes is just one of those ways of hating, it's like removing a small leaf when there are hundreds of leaves on the tree you are picking on.

[@sofijamarkovic6856]

Yes and the comments WERE ALWAYS what would hur you more. Like seeing one dislake is much less painful than seeing a comment saying "i hate you". But also, even if they turn of the comments the hate would still come on other platforms (Twitter) for stuff they do on KZbin so it's just stupid trying to solve it this way

[@sofijamarkovic6856]

@siddharth sarkar i fucking hope not. That would really have a LOT of backlash

[@nocturnaliism]

@siddharth sarkar no...

[@nocturnaliism]

@@sofijamarkovic6856 KZbin would literally lose 60% of its entertainment value if that happens Lmao...

[@deimanthe]

Also, don’t forget about them saying “giving everyone a voice”. Yeah. Giving voices only to scams and creepy KZbin kids channels! 😐

[@jennawebb4225]

Wait how are KZbin kids channels creepy? What happened?

[@olgierdmalarski6689]

"Creepy" 3am clickbait

[@deimanthe]

@@jennawebb4225 Elsagate is what’s all about. Elsagate is a neologism referring to the controversy surrounding videos on KZbin and KZbin Kids that are categorized as "child-friendly", but which contain themes that are inappropriate for children. They also include automatically placed ads, making them lucrative to their owners and KZbin.

[@shayneyne]

@@jennawebb4225 You need see trough your child history to find out some horrific videos. I had set up content for 1-3 yrs old or sth (it was the lowest one) and was giving a lot of stuffs with fighting, hurting (even hurting animals or something like that I saw once, I quickly took device away to block this nightmare video) or some bugs eating alive different bug... Not counting videos in different language than English. Just pushing everything with high views/subs channels. There are some really good videos too (my child wants to know more about letters and etc) but in the end it isn't worth it and with heavy heart I deleted youtube kids. Even blocking videos still was bringing some wierd ones.

[@JoshiTheKitsune]

KZbin: *removes dislikes* Me: We're watching you, KZbin. KZbin: 👀 *Takes out dislikes out of trashcan*

[@ChickenBiryani2247]

KZbin says: protecting creators Everyone who has a stable mind: dislikes makes people change bad content into better.

[@Tokuijin]

Why they didn't just go back to the 5-star rating system is beyond me.

[@plushluigi7417]

@Lt. JoeAnimatez yeah before likes and dislike. There was stars.

[@wagonboi]

5 star rating is garbage because people nowadays will only rate with 5 stars or 1 star. nobody ever rates videos with 4,3 or 2 stars. just look at google reviews. Don't like the movie? rate it 1 star. like the movie? 5 stars. nobody has time for constructive criticism so its either you like the video or you hate it.

[@sus-bn6uk]

oh

[@justajakefanboy5409]

Star rating system is hideous. Like vs dislike system is clearly the better option.

[@ConekQ]

I hated the Star Rating system back then and still do

[@techar9282]

Lets be real: this whole 'disabling the dislikes' is about the dislike attack on the 2018 youtube rewind

[@vannillaAJofficial204]

yup

[@Scenario_animations]

No, I think it's more about KZbin trying to please advertisements and big companies. I am talking about stuff like Disney, Trump, Biden, EA, Fox etc are getting mad about people disliking videos. Some of the most disliked videos are from content farm/companies. Therefore KZbin is probably not trying to help the small KZbinrs but rather the big companies.

[@TheObsesedAnimeFreaks]

@@Scenario_animations i was going to say Biden/White House, but you already said that. it's about politics and protecting their freinds in high places... so like someone else said... it's so they can spread misinformation and harm full ideas to their subjects and the children of this country.

[@stevemc01]

Then let's get that dislike disabling to WORSE than 2018, guys. I propose a crusade.

[@MachoMan_Vert]

This is the evil side of the corporate monopoly. They can force anything on us and we have to cope with it no matter what because we don't have anywhere else to go.

[@hazelgrunts]

KZbin: “We care about small creators!” Also KZbin: Ignores small creators in order to please anonymous complainers

[@moai367]

Yea but small creators in tiktok get a chance in fyp why does a good platform will be filled with bad and dirty ppl and a good platform but bad thinking filled with a good ppl

[@hazelgrunts]

@@moai367 yeah exactly, you know you’ve messed up when TikTok is treating it’s creators better than you

[@swiffsunshineanimations]

also yt: we're also going to ignore the fact about the very not-so-good people on the internet that shows p○rnogr@phic material and spam Bots as well as p@d0philes on the internet that's h@ras$es children

[@zalybrainlessgenius503]

It's not just about tutorials. I'm a college student who used to find studying recourses on youtube, as watching something teaches me the subject better than just reading about it. Now I can't be sure if what's going on in the video is factually correct or not.

[@swilson5320]

Yuppppp. I think they did it so we end up watching more because we have no idea if the video is any good

[@new_delhi]

@@swilson5320 And that, let's KZbin play more ads. More ads just means more revenue for them.

[@new_delhi]

@@jan_Kapije Most of the people using KZbin are mostly kids. Small kids don't even know what an adblocker even means, they'll mostly just watch any ad that plays too.

[@dustyrose192]

@@new_delhi most of the people?

[@new_delhi]

@@dustyrose192 Did you want me to say "Majority of the people"?

[@deutschesmanutter1395]

petition to remove like/dislike button and replace them with 0-5 stars

[@RobbiePopkidcom]

Jesus christ the websites are just getting worse and worse.

[@sionsmedia8249]

2025: KZbin announces that it will remove the comment section because people are saying mean things to some people. From 2021, please don't let this be true

[@BitchChill]

That'll be something I'd care about. I view comments as essential

[@shayneyne]

Nah, you already can remove it so if yes, then may happen quicker than in 2025

[@prestonx9888]

KZbin needs to start thinking about, how we feel about these things. At this point we all are getting sick and tired of KZbin. The only reason we continue to watch KZbin, is because we have no where else to watch stuff like these. Not only that, but if there was a day KZbin got shut down. It would be a huge shame for not only viewers, but KZbinrs as well for numerous obvious reasons.

[@DiamondDrizzle]

Yeah, especially since some of the creators post videos in order to get enough money to live

[@history-jovian]

Your opinion is still kinda true, this type phenomenon has been shown especially the recent one in ROBLOX been shut down. But still make us happy bruh.

[@TakumisBizarreRacingAdventure]

You know I wouldn't mind if there was an alternative to YT and creators gradually started uploading the same videos to both platforms and I'd go watch in the other platform, which would reduce overall KZbin usage I assume causing KZbin to get it inside their thick skull.

[@normalcraftingtable7906]

@@history-jovian Roblox is not like youtube when shut down, I've seen thousands of comments wanting roblox back so it's not like anything like youtube.

[@b4rvyy.1]

atp why dont we just rely on igtv?

[@memesalldayjack3267]

that idea on how you can detect a video targeted for dislikes is very good

[@blurdrawsart]

They basically don’t want us to be able to negatively react to future videos, like Amazon’s Rings of Power, for example. They don’t care for small creators, they only care for their self-gain and pushing their agendas without opposition.

[@frostyspikes7589]

You forgot one thing, this is the classic ''nobody has break time because Timmy got bullied in class'' situation. Nobody wins and you polarize people. People will demonize Timmy for not standing for himself, the bully for being a bully and the teacher for being unfair with those that behave. I cant imagine a happier moment than to have your video succeed and a wildly positive ratio to show for. All those hours and effort rewarded before the public. Claiming to be standing for those being dislike bombed (im surprised nobody is mentioning Steam's way of review-bomb protection with the off-topic warning too) you are taking away a reward for those that do good. A loose-loose scenario.

[@ayubious]

this is THE worst change youtube has ever made. cancelling my yt premium until this is reversed, i bought it to support the platform in hopes they wouldn't give in to the other big companies or investors, but it's shown now that they truly don't care about their users

[@NewCandyCane]

They won't reverse it, you and I will recieve more ads in the upcoming days

[@drfidelis558]

Just get an adblocker

[@ayubious]

@@NewCandyCane probably right. gonna have to start using adblockers again

[@idek6585]

@@drfidelis558 mobile though are screwed