Why Zoro vs Yamato Is NOT CLOSE- One Piece

[@D.Strawhat]

I say “zoro>example” and yall say im bias. now im saying yamato>zoro and im somehow still bias😂😂 yall really hate this woman for no reason and am i missing something? since when has kaido ever been affectionate at all? why would he spare his daughter? He showed multiple times during the entire arc he would kill her. He is not WB and he is not Luffy.

[@jasonxx9884]

Nah but I noticed you love Yamato and oden too much but the rest you’re usually very accurate 😂👍🏾

[@achilldude]

My only problem with this is the fact that Yamato's weapon wasn't draining her of her haki and energy. If anything(in my humble opinion) enma was more of a challenge than king. Anytime they were fighting it was evenly and most of the time zoro look like he had the edge but then Emma would lash out and king would catch him. I'm not saying enma not lashing out would instantly put him above Yamato but he's definitely not get mid diffed. And if we're talking currently in egg head, where he should be stronger, then he could be stronger than her. Also going off the what zoro looked like after the fight its because of the drugs, all the pain just accumulated at once and he felt it after the fight

[@hushsilence8932]

people like minority hunter meat.. wait

[@mattc4266]

There is a reason and it’s because the character was created for the woke crowd

[@nathanwelling8948]

@mattc4266 I doubt Oda cares about that, he actually gave a sensible reason for her wanting to be Oden. He even said she is female.

[@destinynosa2909]

I have the theory that Oda doesn't let to join the strawhats anyone stronger than Luffy or Zoro. That’s why we had to wait so long for Jimbei to join the crew

[@GrapoTheRatKing]

Or sanji

[@youarewelcome1000]

@@GrapoTheRatKing Nah, Luffy & Zoro are different from the rest of the crew.

[@SPYL0RD01]

zoro > yamoto

[@biggreen216]

​@@youarewelcome1000Sanji is closer to zoro than zoro is to luffy

[@nathanwelling8948]

@@biggreen216 Zoro and Sanji are both comparable to Luffy in their own ways.

[@nathanwelling8948]

And King I would actually say could push Yamato to take him very seriously. Zoro was able to react to Kaido charging at him while heavily injured and he barely reacted King almost kicking his face in.

[@FTL_SAN]

How is KoH Zoro equal to or slightly higher than an injured rooftop ashura? For you to say that you have to completely ignore what an advanced conquerors haki buff does for someone. We know Zoro wasn’t using advanced conquerors when he did dead man’s game because there was zero black lightning or non touching effect? You’re also ignoring how the damage he took would lower his attacking ability. And you’re using his Zoro looked after the king fight vs how Yamato looked after stalling kaido as evidence when Zoro is down because he doubled the pain of a combined yonko attack (since that’s the effect of the mink medicine) which is laughably disingenuous. You also said that Yamato was matching kaido but she was getting bulldozed the entire fight. She didn’t win any clashes and the only notable damage she did was a sneak attack to the back of kaido head that got th shrugged of. And you’re saying she forced him out of hybrid form but that’s your opinion. He could have switched to base because he felt like he didn’t need hybrid, as he continued to fight a stronger opponent (luffy) for like 5-10 more chapters after that. So it’s not like he switched out by force. You say kaido doesn’t acknowledge zoro’s attack but he told him that attack will remain with him. And you’re comparing blunt attack with slashing attacks and saying a slashing attack isn’t stronger because it didn’t do what a blunt attack did. Which is goofy, if you get smacked in the head with a plastic baseball bat and land on your back from the momentum, is that more damage than if I had left a gash on your chest with a machete? By your logic that plastic baseball bat did more damage because they’re on the ground now. And Yamato didn’t truly match the speed of luffy’s snake man attack luffy was significantly further behind her she started charging towards kaido who she super close to already. And even when she did that luffy’s attack is still in front of hers. But that’s whatever. This is a bad take. Cause you would definitely not say that gear 4th luffy attacks pre conquerors awakening are relative to gear 2nd/3rd attacks after conquerors awakening. So why aren’t you giving the same amp for Zoro? Because he fought a 1st commander? Someone he beat in 2 attacks? What level of fighter could beat a first commander in 2 attacks bro? Come on man. Yamato isn’t beating king in 2 attacks, I’ll tell you that right now.

[@Fisher_Tiger01]

The non touching effect isn't advanced conquerors. Character infuses advanced armament and advanced conquerors to have that non touching effect

[@mariohernandez2686]

You also gotta consider that Zoro was attacking a full strength kaido and his ashura was with every single bone being broken

[@D.Strawhat]

no he wasnt, only luffy fought full power kaido

[@nathanwelling8948]

@D.Strawhat I believe Kaido first used very little of his strength against Zoro, but as he was overpowered, he used more strength, but couldn't regain the upper hand because he had given Zoro the chance to gain too much momentum, which would explain his facial expression before Zoro scarred him.

[@deadmanlyndon]

even after what you saw it took to take kaido down, you still don't believe was just playing with everybody else.

[@nathanwelling8948]

@@deadmanlyndon Kaido is still stronger than all of them 1v1

[@deadmanlyndon]

@@nathanwelling8948 yes he is stronger than all of them.

[@Hax-hh5dt]

"zoro uses swords so his attacks are more potent"-🤓

[@zstryde501]

Yamato wins but it's true lol. Swordsman Yamato scars Kaido

[@mazinisber4248]

You are just embarrassing youself

[@Azeral7]

U got issues

[@KeIvisify]

It’s easily zoro

[@Aaron.800]

hes exactly right tho

[@nathanwelling8948]

I actually have a bit of evidence of Zoro having far better stamina and control of Enma than he did on the roof. During the beginning of the raid the main weapon he used was Enma when he was dealing with the fodder, with every enemy he defeated his control got better amd better which allowed him to freely use more and more haki. When he got to the rooftop he was playi g defense because after using Oni Giri he realized that he didn't have enough control to do more damage without leaving himself open, but with every attack his minimum output got greater and greater, proven when we see Zoro attacking Big Mom after taking that combined attack and not losing control. But his biggest boost in control was with Ashura, this is proven when he had no problems swinging at King for multiple panels. His biggest boost in control came when he let Enma drain as much as it wanted and as he used KOH he also grew in power at the same time. Every attack he used on King was stronger than the last. Personally I think Zoro can beat Yamto high diff. Kaido would definitely acknowledge Zoro as someone worthy of his full strength if this is the case.

[@onealnnah6411]

It’s easier to knock down an opponent with blunt attacks with blunt attacks than sword attacks, I agree Yamato is stronger but let that be known

[@D.Strawhat]

was ashura stronger than luffys first attack on 1010?

[@discomplexed6570]

in my opinion it was. ashura has always been a last resort attack for zoro. Just because luffy knocked down kaido and zoro didnt, it doesnt make zoros attack weaker. in act 1 of wano we see luffy go gear 3 and 4 and he was knocking down kaido in kuri but obviously it didnt do any damage. and as you stated in your video, blood should not be used to scale damage and i think it should be the same for knocking someone down, someone dodging an attack, etc. (you should make a video about gear fifth vs kaido because a lot of people think gear 5 is stronger🤣)

[@nathanwelling8948]

​@@discomplexed6570Gear 5s main advantage over Kaido is that it boosted his durability against blunt attacks and let him mold around them. Gear 5 Luffy would have to take Zoro more seriously than he did Kaido because Zoro's fighting style is far more dangerous for him.

[@FTL_SAN]

@@discomplexed6570gear 5th is stronger bro 😂

[@onepiecefan74]

@@D.Strawhat The real question is was it stronger then the scabbards attack? The scabbards knocked Kaido over but didn't scar him. Knocking Kaido over is not a feat. Everyone did it. Scaring Kaido was hyped for 50 chapters to be something no one had done since Oden.

[@avey_g1566]

I think this video perfectly explains why Yamato couldn't join the Straw Hats as they are now

[@Ledecral]

My thoughts exactly. Jimbe didn't officially join the crew until he was already surpassed by Zoro and Sanji. Those two will always #2&3 in terms of crew power.

[@910Jaro]

right? once they get another power up they’ll pick up yamato lmaoo it

[@MadeForD]

@@910Jaro fr. also Yamato needs to make a man out of Momo first before she can finally leave that awful plac errr Wano

[@fruitpunch549]

Another thing to point out is that yamato has fought Kaido many times which gives her an advantage over Zoro who is new to fighting kaido

[@DemonFist94]

Exactly and he was severely injured compared to her when fighting Hybrid Kaido as well like he literally leaves out that aspect 😂😂😂

[@VisionPlayss]

Exactly Kaido and Yamato have fought each other many times so Kaido would know how she fights as well so she does not really have an advantage. These two are pretty much copies of each other its just that one is vastly stronger

[@Stevensenegal222]

I agree largely but I think it's disingenuous to imply that Zoro received his damage from King. It is stated, that after the medicine wears off the damage returns many times over. Meaning he nearly died because of the damage from the rooftop multiplying. King didn't do much damage to him compared to what he sustained against Kaido and Big Mom. If Zoro would have been healthy and had King of Hell from the start he would have mid diffed King. I think you are right that King of hell Zoro is more comparable to the Luffy who first unlocked CoC and even that Luffy is weaker than Yamato.

[@FTL_SAN]

He can’t be comparable because ashura rooftop Zoro was comparable to that luffy.

[@CRY10]

🧢

[@nathanwelling8948]

@Jasonsama I would say King of Hell is comparable to post advanced conquerors Gear 4.

[@dishwasher3160]

ye I always felt thats the reason she didnt join the straw hats cause she cant until at least zoro surpases her

[@mgeezylaslo7054]

That's the main reason. Yamato literally wanted to join Luffy. Luffy said you can join my crew whenever you want, and Yamato says she has explore wano first -_-

[@guardiantree8879]

Same reason Jinbe took a while.

[@3dsmaster537]

basically. the monster trio would change too drastically

[@OLDGENISTHEFODDERGEN]

Yes

[@DrooledOn]

@@guardiantree8879what makes you think zoro is stronger than Jimbe? He was fighting 500 mil bounty Ace who was YC level for 5 days years before he joined the crew. He tanked admirals attacks before the timeskip. He one shot Moria, when it took a entire arc for the Strawhats to beat him. Jimbe has the craziest speed feats, he literally carried several people on a giant door and blitzed a marine battleship that was basically on the shoreline. He is massively physically stronger than zoro and sanji. He has more endurance. The only thing Zoro has over him is ACOC, and probably AP/DC.

[@spaceduckemperor6708]

I see your points but we can’t just gloss over the fact that zoro was injured from the time he blocked Hakai onward, nor did zoro have any knowledge about acoc. Bro didn’t even know he was a conqueror whereas Yamato had been fighting kaido for decades, and despite both of those things zoro still got the better of Kaido in their clash and permanently scarred kaido while also not getting hit. Comparing Yamato at her strongest to a half dead zoro is obviously in Yamato’s favor, but Zoro showed feats on the rooftop that easily put him on par with Luffy pre acoc, and if you ask me Ashura zoro had temporarily surpassed rooftop Luffy. I think you’re also placing too much credence in the whole “knocking kaido down” thing, cuz again in base Luffy immediately knocked kaido down with red roc and zoro went on to perform extremely comparable to that very same Luffy, hell even Kidd managed to slam kaido down but you wouldn’t say that puts him above ashura zoro💀 Also trying to downplay zoro for fighting king is just crazy cuz Zoro was still injured (just had a drug that allowed him to move/fight at the cost of DOUBLE the damage later) AND with less control over his haki since enma was still acting out in the middle of their fight, to the point that King himself acknowledged how much zoro was struggling just to manage enma. Mind you this same king would scale at bare minimum equal to ryou luffy depending how you view the gap between him and zoro on the rooftop, I personally have king stronger than that Luffy but that’s neither here nor there. Point being, King was still giving the smoke to KoH zoro, which should be the strongest version of wano zoro given the amps that acoc gives you, but even if you disagree with that KoH zoro is still substantially above pre ashura zoro on the rooftop (who is relative to ryou Luffy) and imo about equal to Ashura. So to recap briefly, King managed to overpower zoro at first, who no matter how you slice it was extremely relative to ryou luffy. Zoro then, while still having multiple broken bones and having taken attacks from king on top of that, unlocked KoH and handily surpassed his rooftop self and should at least be somewhat relative to his Ashura form by that point, an ashura that was also in this half dead state. This means that King should bare minimum be around the level of rooftop ashura, putting it all together that should mean that: Current zoro >> King >= nerfed KoH >= rooftop ashura = ryou Luffy >= rooftop pre ashura zoro. Again, I think Zoro’s nerfs and the emphasis on them was heavily downplayed in this video, especially given how Zoro being injured and not always at his peak capability has been portrayed in the past. Strong as Yamato is, this same base Yamato that’s apparently relative to acoc snakeman also was about to get bodied by Greenbull in a 2v1 with Momo’s help, to the point she was telling momo to go ask Luffy for help. According to your reasoning should have comparable durability to kaido, considering he just like kaido shrugged off Yamato’s attacks with little issue in very similar fashion to kaido. If you wanna argue GB being stronger than acoc snakeman or relative to kaido in durability then go for it, but what I’m sayin is Zoro was incredibly handicapped in multiple ways on the rooftop and even in the king fight, yet still managed to surpass himself time and time again. I think your points while valid to a degree don’t take in the full context, being that zoro was incredibly physically nerfed when he cut kaido, and was handicapped vs king in two different ways, first being a lack of control over enma and second being a lack of control over his newfound acoc, which kaido even tells Luffy isn’t an ability to be used recklessly without deadly consequences and has to be properly managed. Personally, I think if zoro and yamato go hit for hit zoro takes that. Speed they should be relative, haki overall I give to zoro but yamato has more experience with acoc, so I think if the fight drags out Yamato wins. An Ashura from healthy KoH zoro tho? With better control of his haki now? Idk man, I think you’re seriously sleeping. I generally agree with you but this one is a bit wild in my opinion

[@Superion221]

I think by the end of Wano they were basically equals.

[@giannialegeh9318]

Common w from D. Straw Hat. This is similar to your sanji video. People really think zoro or sanji could beat yamato while she fought kaido while they were fighting for their lives against commanders 😂

[@GiRR007]

Knocking a character over doesnt matter much. Its not a good indication of damage. WE saw that when luffy first fought kaido after kaido used blast breathe against his crew luffy was knocking kaido all over the place with gear 3rd and gear 4th but he was still doing no damage. And zoros attacks on the other hand almost never knock enemys around even when he does obscene amounts of damage to them. So no yamatos damage is still under zoros. And zoro was keeping up with the zoan users like kaido and king just fine on his own so their speed is about equal. Durability wise its weird since yamato has that weird ice ability.

[@D.Strawhat]

zoro literally said “ i wanted to at least knock u down” zoro thinks it does

[@GiRR007]

@@D.Strawhat Knock down as in make him fall to his knees. Making him fall because he made him physically weak instead of just knocking him over.

[@DemonFist94]

​@@GiRR007Exactly 😂😂😂

[@DemonFist94]

​@@D.Strawhatchange ya pfp stop disrespecting my boy 😂😂😂

[@D.Strawhat]

@@GiRR007u literally just proved my point If someone can withstand ur attack without falling down its clearly not as impressive as an attack than can knock them down

[@beepboop4833]

Apparently blunt force attacks are always stronger than piercing attacks because they knock people down. (basic physics, but whatever). Now Luffy did in fact drop Kaido to his knees through hurting him instead of force, in chapter 1010. But Yamato did not do this, she knocked him down, just like a much weaker Luffy did even in Kuri. Just by the nature of blunt force. Cuts don't send people flying 😂

[@psykos233]

Shut up, Kuri Luffy faced Base kaido wasn't even fighting back. Yamato did Overpower Hybrid Kaido when he tried to block her attack. He tried to block her attack and got overpowered. Read the damn manga before talking.

[@beepboop4833]

@@psykos233 Whoops forgot that Kaido tried to block, thought she blitzed. This power scaling shit serious apparently, chill 😆

[@nathanwelling8948]

@psykos233 Why are you so hostile? It's fiction bro.

[@DrooledOn]

@@psykos233​​⁠kaido held back on yamato, and it’s obvious. He literally held back on big mom, Luffy, and kidd as well. His goal isn’t to kill, but to break their spirit. Why would kaido hold back against literal invaders and not yamato? Also Kaido was literally fighting a fresh yamato after running a gauntlet. Then she was struggling with green bull while jumping him lol.

[@DrooledOn]

@@psykos233yamato fangirls never mention any other yamato fight except the outlier when her daddy gave her a spanking.

[@DrooledOn]

I don’t care what you say Kaido was holding back on yamato. He had fought about 15 people, he continuously used haki and his DF. He was clearly fatigued, damaged, and holding back. It was stated several times that kaido tries to break spirits not kill. That’s why Luffy, Kidd, Yamato and the 9 scabbards are still alive. Kaido himself wants Yamato to be his shogun. You can’t list these outlier feats in a vaccum without mentioning all of these facts. Yamato isn’t fighting any Yonko for 3 days straight. Yamato isn’t 1v9ing the scabbards. Yamato isn’t fighting the worst generation next to big mom. Yamato isn’t 1v1ing Gear 5 luffy. Stop comparing her to Kaido. She never went 1 on 1 with a full powered kaido. Yamato herself admitted that she could never beat kaido. Kaido himself said right after fighting Yamato, that he was having fun with luffy, and they could “truly fight toe to toe.”

[@DaveSmith-ns9xy]

Bro if you say kaido wasnt at full power vs yamato what abt luffy he literally beat the most fatigued version of kaido and moreover he was drunk and effectively gave up when he knew luffy was joyboy. Also yamato slams all scabbarss and could fight that law and kidd however would lose but so did big mom and she would still put up a good fight at like ext diff. How is it outlier feats when all you aaid was speculation besides that she couldnt beat kaido no shit fp kaido beats luffy gear 5 high diff.

[@biasedpotato8511]

I don’t think Yamato has better ap than zoro’s top end attacks. Zoro cut through kings strongest attack, then cut through a haki coated sword, then cut off kings wing, all in one attack. I just don’t see Yamato having that amount of ap.

[@psykos233]

Kaido does, and Yamato just like Luffy was matching to AP of Acoc attacks of Kaido, Kaido Acoc attacks >>> Zoro Acoc attacks.

[@saifkhan-kc9ec]

@@psykos233 the problem being that yamato was barely able to fend herself off against kaido she could not properly defend against the same kaido who had been battle struck countless time and the only actual dmg yamato did was with luffy

[@psykos233]

@@saifkhan-kc9ec Could not fend herself??? She was blocking multiple acoc attacks from him, tanked multiple Acoc attacks from Kaido, no attack from Zoro is as strong or stronger than Acoc attacks of Kaido. Zoro needed to use Asura to manage to block a single no named no acoc attack of Kaido, Yamato was blocking Acoc attacks even when she is in Base, she have Yonkou level speed for simple fact she matched to Hybrid Kaido Thunder Bagua, while Zoro was having trouble against King speed and could only land a hit to Kaido when Kaido wasn't taking Zoro seriously. Kaido saw Ashura as such a non treat that Kaido didn't even bother try use a named attack against Ashura, while vs Yamato, Kaido was spamming Acoc named attacks when they were fighting eachother.

[@saifkhan-kc9ec]

@@psykos233 ok so by ur definition kaido using thunder bagua once makes it him spamming his moves? do u not understand that a perfectly fine yamato vs a kaido who has been fighting countless enemy still beated her and he wasnt even going as hard as he did for gear 5 even with yamatos devil fruits defence she still got defeated even the fact that she lasted that long was cause of her will cause she literally states her self that she cant die now meaning that an attack like that could kill her also zoro with many broken bones did a similar feat to ODEN which kaido considers one of the few people as a threat now am not saying that he is oden lvl since bro isnt a yonko level but neither is yamato and i feel u like u dont understand how kaido not using a non acoc named move isnt less comparable to kaido only using one named move against yamato also since zoro was already injured kaido most probably didnt want to end the fight there since zoro ofc isnt a yonko lvl and is injured so he wont be able to block a named attack during that time but zoro still manages to attack kaido before he could counter and scar him while being injured

[@saifkhan-kc9ec]

@@psykos233 btw by fend herself i mean like do considerable dmg to kaido ofc i will give yamato to the fact that she was able to hold kaido which is impressive oh also during when zoro scars kaido is way before he even fought king and he had recently gotten conq so that already proves that zoro after defeating king>zoro scar kaido

[@_jamlM]

first time i’ve seen D strawhat miss it’s a ext diff fight, you failed to mention zoro had 30 bones when scarring kaido so a current healthy zoro would do multiple times better, and they only reason zoro saw death is because of the minks medican. Focused on ranting and forgot the facts

[@dsw-2898]

Wow you really down played zoro😂 You didn't even bring up most of his feats but you glazed yamatos

[@Forever.ediz.]

Fr tho

[@StrawHatMod]

Thank you! I swear people act like Yamato can't hang with zoro and I'm like, "are we reading the same manga?" 😂

[@gernizzle]

i have been saying for so long that yamato is a top tier and so many zoro dick riders can never except that fact

[@scuffedpixel]

nobody said hes not top tier, we just say how can you compare zoro with someone who could prolly get smacked up by sanji. People who compare kaido vs yamato to any set up main fights like luffy vs kaido or zoro vs king is always sooo off with their power scaling, because by that standard yamato should'nt have even struggled a little bit with green bull but he did, only draw comparisions if the plot is saying "defeat the enemy to move forward" fights

[@riqthelegend]

I think it’s extremely unfair to downplay Zoro’s struggle against King especially when you pay attention to all context. King had not been damaged up the entirety of Onigashima until he started fighting Zoro, he had durability to withstand attacks that cut Kaido in his dragon form, he has the Durability to take a full force conquerors haki slash from Zoro with his flames off and continue fighting at full strength, and Flames on he’s close to impenetrable literally anybody in the series that doesn’t have COC would have a hard time beating him. Yamato not only fought Kaido at full health, she still did less damage did Zoro did with 20-30 broken bones in his body until she did a combined attack with luffy and even that’s debatable. Nobody could keep up with Kaido in a 1v1 for too long, she just so happened luffy came back, this is shown by the fact she was not able to fully guard herself. This implies if the fight would’ve continued she would’ve lost too. She barely able to fend off kanjuro in his fire match form. Come on now….. Zoro was the first one on the rooftop to make Kaido dodge. And that was just him focusing his Haki in Enma for a slash. He was the first one to cause permanent damage on Kaido and broken through King Flames On Defense. Zoro beat King Flames On and this proven by the fact that King was using his Imperial Flaming Wings when he was cut down the same move that he used earlier on Zoro and Zoro himself stated that at point so it was pointless to try to attack while he was using that move. Also King has never been shown to use a flaming attack without being flames on.

[@fresh8006]

So u telling me zo cut king in flames on?

[@svz1345]

Zoro beat flame off king. There's literally 2 pages of zoro's final attack against king and his flames are off. Zoro never broke king's flame defense.

[@DrooledOn]

@@fresh8006the flames are always on either offense or defense.

[@JK_073]

Broken bones or injuries haven’t ever played a part in someone’s ap and strength.

[@JK_073]

Zoro literally couldn’t hurt flame on King tf you talking about🤣

[@DiegoRodriguez-ru5if]

I feel like zoro is stronger but not by much, he did almost die but because of the medicine , so all of the attacks from the 2 yonko, and the damage by king amplified, and if i remember correctly yamato didint force kaido off of his hybrid form, he was just trying to convince her to be shogun, until luffy showed up, and i believe king has more durability than kaido with his flame on, so it took zoro a bit to find his gimmick, but when he did it didint take many attacks to put him down

[@crimsoniscrispy9999]

Me personally I'd give this fight to Yamato high diff. But even tho it's high diff I still see Yamato winning around 8/10 times to be generous to Zoro.

[@JusDion]

this is why im so adamant about zoro being comparable to luffy because they perfectly counter one another. luffy ran out of stamina before every other supernova and zoro doesnt have devil fruit hax that grant him durability. luffy is not all that he has short bursts of ridiculousness but after he needs to run for his life. zoro has the greatest AP on the crew period, the weakest durability but the greatest endurance.

[@nathanwelling8948]

People act like Gear 5 and even base advanced Conquerors makes the difference between Luffy and his whole crew like the difference between Katakuri and Big Mom, Zoro in base would be able to outlast Gear 4. Base Luffy does not have the strength to put Zoro down.

[@abbamalami9171]

Zoro is nowhere comparable to luffy

[@JusDion]

@@abbamalami9171 gear 5th made Luffy tired after fighting rob lucci what are you talking about??

[@JusDion]

@@abbamalami9171 nowhere compared to Luffy but for some reason the narrative killed both Luffy and Zoro the sun god and the sword god on the same night. Luffy learned conquerors coating immediately after Zoro used asura on kaido and the narrative literally stated that both Luffys bajrang gun and Zoro's Enma could do damage down to the bottom of hell.

[@saifkhan-kc9ec]

@@JusDion hell no i understand people think that rob lucci awk is strong but its not that strong to tire a yonko lvl easily screw that a gear 5 like gear 5 luffy was just fr playing and didnt even use an actual named move life ofc lucci got stronger but people think him handling a punch makes him instantly stronger than all yc1 including zoro

[@okyerekojo3746]

Do you think yamato could have defeated king after fighting kiado? And even Kiado fought law, luffy ,kid, zoro before yamato

[@TrueReverse74]

Yamato takes this pretty handidly, Second strongest good guy at onigashima for sure, has used advanced coc for longer, better defensive capabilities, with her haki, df and mirror mountain, speed going in yamato's favor, power in her favor. All signs point towards Yamato. I agree wholeheartedly.

[@user-qe9jh5kj7v]

So you take AP feats from a fatigued and bone broken zoro and not from KoH zoro who is highlighted to have a better AP than asura , tell me you are bias without telling you are bias 😂😂

[@muundus7]

Damn I used to think he could take her down but I just didn't pay real attention to what she did on the roof top lmao, this girl is a literal beast

[@hushsilence8932]

En-o > Rooftop Ashura. Simply because releasing all your haki until you pass out

[@almy-qy1lf]

I was on the fence about those two, but your reasoning is solid. You have convinced me.

[@big3fanboy19]

I agree that zoro had a extreme diff fight with king but we can't forget the reason why zoro look dead was the mink drug that ultimately gave extra more damage to zoro. Zoro was alerady dying when he blocked ocean sovereignty for a second then with the drug fought king. In my opinion I think zoro is over yamato but it isn't by much. Also what happened to old garp vs mariendford wb

[@DemonFist94]

You mean Zoro had an extreme diff fight with Enma?? 😂

[@big3fanboy19]

@@DemonFist94 zoro had a much harder time because of enma. Enma takes away your haki so zoro bascially have to go all out for enma.

[@borsalino177]

6:36 he looked like that mainly because of kaido and big moms attack. His temporary drugs had surpassed the time limit. Tbh it never really looked like he struggled against king, after "king of hell" release. But yeah yamato is definetely slept on. I can definitely see her defeating zoro rn

[@OldWorldGalaxy]

I swear, I have been screaming this from the rooftops that Yamato was stronger but somehow I was the crazy one? For daring to say Yamato beats Zoro in Wano? It’s the entire reason she didn’t join

[@FTL_SAN]

It’s not and you are crazy. Yamato lands a sneak attack the the back if kaido’s head, clashes with him maybe once, and then got tossed around for the other 9 chapters straight. And y’all think she’s admiral level or ben beckman level? Because Zoro is above 1st commander level since he can take one out in 2 hits. So for Yamato to be stronger than Zoro she has to be Beckman level or Admiral level which isn’t the case.

[@OldWorldGalaxy]

@@FTL_SAN 1st, what sneak attack? Yamato announces themselves to Kaido before the fight. And you’re acting like Zoro would’ve done better by himself. He had help from 4 other characters and barely got Kaido to acknowledge him. And beating King doesn’t make you above 1st Commander level, you’re wanking Zoro. He’d still get dropped by Kaido with less effort, and even by Greenbull

[@FTL_SAN]

@@OldWorldGalaxy first off if you actually read the chapter enough you’d know that Yamato and kaido clash, but it was an ice clone. She pops out from a rock and hits kaido to the back of his head before he can realize. And yes Zoro would’ve done better if he was full health and in ashura when he fought kaido. The reason Zoro and all the supernova weren’t doing so well because there were two fucking yonko working in tandem. And it’s not Zoro beating king that makes him above 1st commander level it’s the fact that he did it in two fucking attacks. How many times did Marco hit king and did no damage? If Zoro was to fight king right now, he’d could go into KoH beat him in 2 attacks. I’m not wanking Zoro there’s no fuckin need to. There’s evidence to everything I’m saying. Could Yamato beat king in 2 hits? We don’t know because Yamato didn’t do notable damage to anyone but page one. She did the same amount of damage to kaido as luffy when he first unlocked conquerors if not less.

[@2Bluee0nt0p]

not to mention yamato in her base form is able to literally smack around a forest flexing greenbull although this is the same greenbull getting washed up by momonosuke but even then the scabbards said that momo's boro breath is a splitting image of kaido's.

[@CRY10]

2:24 bro skipped physics classes 😂

[@retrogamermax8287]

I'm going to honest and a lot of you will probably disagree with me here, but I think Yamato is low to mid Admiral level as she has shown feats on the rooftop against her father that only other Emperors and Admirals could achieve. The fact she lasted as long she did alone against Kaido before Luffy returned is a testament to her strength alone.

[@beepboop4833]

I think current Zoro would do more damage to Kaido than Yamato, but he'll also get defeated a lot earlier since he doesn't have the durability. He can't stall Kaido like she can.

[@DrooledOn]

Where were these feats when she literally fought a admiral with help 😂😭. Yamato fans never want to talk about literally every other fight she has been in.

[@ΚρανίΩ]

@@DrooledOnlate reply but buddy she was told by momo to stay out the fight cause he wanted to be strong enough to defend the island himself. not only that but the only attack she did made greenbull get seriously hurt. kizaru in egghead did not stall luffy one bit, he just ran away and got one tapped 3 times afterwards when he couldn't anymore. yamato held her own for a long amount of time against kaido. she is at least above kizaru stop coping. she has acoc, advanced observation and armament, kizaru has never shown any conquerer's. stop coping

[@MadeForD]

This is also the actual 'out of verse' reason why Yamato had to stay in Wano and NOT join the Strawhats. It would disrupt the balance of power. Zoro as the clear 2nd will be no more

[@naytny5819]

Zoro had to block a combined yonko attack, Yamato did not..... thats why she was way less injured than Zoro she didn't have to carry multiple people on the rooftop while dealing with 2 yonko

[@chadlyons3484]

its kinda crazy you're still downplaying Zoro. yea id give it that Yamato has better feats definitely, but you're basically putting her against a near death Zoro. Zoro has not been fighting to his full capabilities due to him literally almost being dead. if you put a Zoro fully healed with adv conq. against king, he's doing him worst. he took king out with only three attacks. king is a tricky person to fight because of him with flames on. and its very clear that Yamato is not comparable in speed to snake man fr, kid kept up with her hybrid form and you put a base Yamatos attack speed two snake man is insane. snake man the only form to blitz kaido bad. she would b relative to a CRUDE adv conq luffy. luffy in G2 n G3 wit adv conq was doin way better against kaido than Yamato. all I'm saying is that I would give Zoro, who's 100% healed and has adv conq, the edge high diff.

[@willlewis5531]

Completely agree I think d wasn't comparing them at there peak atleast not zoro I think it would be close but zoro could most definitely take the dub

[@kingrippzard2027]

Bro he went into King fight with Magic Mink medicine, he was perfectly fine.

[@chadlyons3484]

@@kingrippzard2027 that doesnt mean he was able to fight to his full potential … damn near all of bros bones were broken . 💀

[@kingrippzard2027]

@@chadlyons3484 the medicine as described made him perfectly fine until it wore off

[@almy-qy1lf]

​​​@@chadlyons3484 oh boy, here we go again with the "damn near all his bones broken" trope... That's not even remotely true. Law, who's a doctor, gave the verdict of 20-30 broken bones right before Zoro started receiving treatment. 20-30 represents 10 - 15% of the bones, for an adult human. So in the WORST estimate, he had 85% of his bones not broken when he got off rooftop. And a Thunder Bagua by Hybrid Kaido was the last thing he was hit with. And then, he got the mink medicine, and the whole point of it was to heal him. Stop the cope, Zoro was fine when he started fighting King.

[@paramagnetism5693]

Really good W video.

[@Takt.mp4]

I thought this wanna gonna be a bias Zoro vid, but you proved me wrong 😭😭

[@kingrippzard2027]

A certified banger of a video. So much so I forgive some of the arguments you made in that Kat vs Wano video. You were spitting straight fire during the Zoro is not Luffy section.

[@pokeinator7834]

This man is just crazy with zoro takes First he says he can beat Kidd AND law,saying zoro beats them 1v1,not a hot take,debateablely a smart take,but both is insane,seems like some fanboying right? But then saying he gets STOMPED by Yamato? Like bro pick a side you either are a zoro hater or a zoro fanboy,don’t try to act normal by giving out takes from both sides

[@nikjovan4816]

I have Yamato over Zoro, by 1-2 spots on my list. Right now by one spot. I used to have Law over Zoro, but not anymore. I don't know if that is controversial. But, I would say Zoro beats base Yamato, but I have Hybrid Yamato with that Mythical Zoan fruit active over Zoro. And I totally agree with the whole sword damage vs blunt damage thing. It's different. Yamato knocked down Kaido, while Kaido didn't even drop to his kness like Zoro wanted. Zoros Ashura looks worse for Kaido, but despite it looking worse, because of more blood, Yamatos and Luffys blunt attacks did more damage.

[@riqthelegend]

You state it did more damage, at the same time saying it was a combined attack. Now with that logic Asura Zoro+Snakeman Luffy >>>>>Hybrid Yamato +Snakeman Luffy

[@riqthelegend]

Bringing up the fact that Kaido didn’t drop to his knees while also not bringing up the fact that Kaido acknowledged a permanent scar (something that man probably hasn’t experienced in the past 20 years) is extremely bias

[@nikjovan4816]

@@riqthelegend I wasn't reffering to Snakeman Luffys and Yamatos combined attack. I phrased it a bit weird. I meant their blunt attacks individually did more damage.

[@nikjovan4816]

@@riqthelegend And yet he didn't fall, like he did with Oden, who gave him two scars at once. Of course Zoro is insanely strong. But if we just look at the fact that Ashura caused the most blood to come from Kaido, then are we saying Zoros Ashura did more damage Luffys ACoc attacks. No, it's a different type of damage.

[@beepboop4833]

Yamato knocked down Kaido because she hits him with blunt damage lol. If I bull-rush someone, they fall over. If I would stab someone, but they endure and don't drop to their knees, does that mean it did less damage? Kaido didn't get knocked down because of pain, but because of force. This is basic physics.

[@firewallnuke147]

And some people saying sanji can beat her 😂 they wildin

[@richcast66]

I agree with most of your takes, but idk how to feel about this one. If Yamato scaled much higher than Zoro, her presence alone should have made the fight against greenbull a very even match. But she struggled too much, personally she is just slightly above Zoro.

[@mg63shooter83]

30 broken bones zoro without learning adcoc AP >yamato 😂😂😂and u know it

[@saythatonemoretime9719]

I am the biggest Zoro fan but I can’t ignore the fact that Yamato is stronger than Zoro ,in my opinion she is stronger than even fujitora ,that’s the reason why Oda didn’t let her join the crew now because there would be a new monstertrio with luffy,Zoro , Yamato and with Sanji as sidekick ,many fans wouldn’t like this

[@FTL_SAN]

She’s not stronger than fujitora

[@OLDGENISTHEFODDERGEN]

Nope. If she is stronger than admiral Fujitora (top 3/4 confirmed strongest in the entire world government),she would be like as strong as Kaido or maybe even stronger.

[@ΚρανίΩ]

@@OLDGENISTHEFODDERGENaint no way you think yonkos are weaker than admirals you're a joke

[@rubenvillanuevarubio1796]

In a fight you can get cut and it doesn't mean you are taking a lot of damage. Your skin just gor cut. But you can get knocked down without blood

[@Torodos93]

zoro blcoks a combo attack from big mom and kaido and king is strong high diff for zoro

[@JK_073]

Ap, overall iq, skill, and endurance are prolly the ONLY stats I’d give Zoro here. Yamato takes everything else. Notice how most these people just forgot to pay attention to Yamato vs Kaido? Mfs only pay attention when a strawhat is involved😂😂

[@D.Strawhat]

he literally cant take the endurance stat no matter what, he scaled lower than yamato during his best endurance feats. and his fight with king doesnt help the case

[@JK_073]

@@D.Strawhat it’s more so the fact that he broke 30 bones and continued fighting that I’m referencing. For me endurance means how much damage they can sustain and keep going, Yamato didn’t really take that much damage so there isn’t much to go off of.

[@knightpoker8844]

W vidéo !! Sub man

[@rodthedigger2902]

Great video! For me, Zoro vs Yamato could go either way.

[@alvinemovon9427]

Yamato extreme diffs ngl

[@pride_mitochondria3921]

Real question is Zoro Endurance vs WB Endurance

[@achilldude]

I wouldn't say fighting for his life against a yonko commander enma was more of an issue

[@Mosaic-xerox]

Great analysis, now let’s get sanji vs Yamato next

[@calebwhite304]

He already made that vid

[@abdulmajedahmed969]

Fights in one piece do not have any logic. It's just what the writer wants

[@savagejaay]

6:35 Sucks when the fan base misconstrues events like this just to hate on Zoro. Why even make a video comparing the two and leave out most of the details that happen.

[@FreemodeVillain]

This was a nice video but I think its kinda close and you're spitting fax Yamato high diffs in my opinion 🗣️🗣️

[@onepiecefan74]

If knocking down> scaring then the scabbards did more damage then Zoro. If you don't believes this then you entire argument falls apart.

[@D.Strawhat]

except we can read kaidos words, they didnt open the scar on a weaker less serious kaido. Zoro scarred a stronger, more durable, more serious kaido. It's mroe than safe to assume ashura would knock down kaido from 987. But thats not hybrid kaido

[@onepiecefan74]

@@D.Strawhat Doesn't matter. They knocked him down. Your the one staying knocking down>scarring.

[@abdulrisark4782]

@@D.StrawhatLuffy at the beginning of Wano has more attack power than rooftop Ashura since he knocked down Kaido and Zoro didn’t??? Bro what

[@chebichevinovichskic]

Sane take, W vid.

[@MDL2407]

Physical Strength : Yamato (263 cm) Zoro (181 cm) Yamato had a Chances than Speed : Zoro (Could Slash Kaidō's Neck with so fast) Physical Durability : Yamato (Zoan User + Incredible Superhuman Durability + Regeneration) IQ Battle : Yamato (At least he know how to Deal with Kaidou for a Hours) Experience : Yamato (28 Yo, She got beaten by Kaidō over and over) (Zoro Just 21 yo Fighting Experience) Power : Yamato (Could Split the Sky) Attack : Zoro (Could Cut Kaidō's Body) Defense : Zoro (3 Sword Style Defences) Yamato's Win but Zoro's Attack Potencial could gives a harm to a Yamato's Body.

[@SonGoku-po2dd]

just because she got knocked down doesn’t mean she has better experience

[@FTL_SAN]

This is what it looks like when your only powerscaling experience is from KZbin shorts, that break things into categories lol

[@SonGoku-po2dd]

@@FTL_SAN ☠️

[@RedLights9000-f3l]

Did you just said that Yamato is physically stronger than Zoro because she's taller ? Please tell me you're joking

[@notesuuu2964]

i love zoro slander

[@i_almighty8250]

I don’t know if i agreed with u or nah but they both feel relative to me

[@chadlyons3484]

definitely, it isn't a one sided fight at all. I got Zoro winning high diff imo

[@vivaraulito]

Yamato is way stronger than zoro, I will be one of the first people to say zoro is one of my favorites but the glazing needs to stop Yamato held kaido down to a 1v1 and was actually doing damage overtime until luffy pulled up. Zoro doesn’t have the tools to do the same he got one hit in and kaido barely reacted to it and it was a jump fest 5v1. No doubt eventually zoro will surpass her with plot later on in the story especially if they have plans for Yamato joining the crew later in the monster trio will have to be above her for them to remain the monster trio atm only luffy scales above her zoro and sanji need to put in more work

[@mazinisber4248]

I do not how you think Yamato's AP and speed are better than Zoro's. Zoro: Armament Observation Speed Reaction Hax Endurance AP Yamato Strength Conqueror's Durability Stamina Abilities Yamato wins mainly due to stamina.

[@LewReviews]

Styles make fights in my opinion zoro using swords and her using a club is a massive disadvantage you need to think he will just out skill her with finess with swordmanship and she won't stand a chance club vs 3 swords

[@primordial994]

lol yall must be out of your damn minds.... yamato and luffy were boxing with Kaido, Kaido!... Yamato been boxing with kaido her whole life and on top of that zoro has only, only ever beaten a first commander. Yamato was boxing kaido and tanking hits in his hybrid form as well.. what kinda goofy nonsense is the community on about, she is stronger than zoro... its absurd to think otherwise. Zoro is my favourite character but a 1 v1 with yamato while it would be a good fight, she would win. She is definitely stronger than king. this recency bias is ridiculous. Who in the beast pirates could touch yamato, when she lashed out the only person who stopped her rampaging was kaido,.. who even while being suicidal would absolutely kill zoro if he wasn't written like such a baffoon on roof piece. This is the same kaido who was one tapping luffy repeatedly until gear 5th and even in gear 5th kaido was doing nonsense and allowing himself to get hit like an idiot and he was still fighting and knocking luffy around. oh well.

[@DemonFist94]

Kaido never got scared enough to dodge any of Yamato's attacks btw but Big Mom told him to dodge one of Zoro's weakest foh Yamato simp ahh boy

[@ΚρανίΩ]

zoro is not stalling kaido for more than a minute stop coping

[@marqusmedina5983]

Facts

[@not_psx8535]

Zoro is way"stronger" considering he had no control over enma , he had no advanced conquer and had 20 or more broken bones and still scared kaido he didnt do shit to king before getting advanced conquer and after getting it he demolished king... If we are talking about stamina it will be greatly increased after unlocking conqueror cuz now instead of enma solely depending on armament it now depends on both also it doesn't cause zoro much stress after unlocking it to use the sword and zoro is faster than big mom he straight up speed blitzes her so i think zoro wins this but i might be wrong........

[@not_psx8535]

And yamato didn't do shit to kaido also kaido wasnt really serious against him so I think it will be high diff but Zoro ultimately wins

[@ricardoalvarez3478]

Bro is in love lol

[@zelz3011]

Nah Yamato scales no where and barely could do anything to even Ulti with her Badgua. That feat with Snakeman is more of a feat on Luffy than Yamato as Yamato was already preparing for an attack and Luffy did that thing which is comparable to like the Flash blitzing some guy before the one about to be beaten up punches at such a fast speed they make it look like they actually did crazy damage when the viewers know they did nothing. Luffy was furthere away and shot his attack where as Yamato was already preparing an attack from closer and it's possible slightly ranged and yet Luffy still made it there just in time and possibly faster than Yamato could even react to not even notice it at first. That's not Keeping up Kaido is heavily holding back and messing with her by blocking her attacks with his own variations. Yamato was stalling so the chapter thing you brought up earlier doesn't work either as Yamato is there to stall and Kaido holding back could also be in the narrative of not only would it make sense for Yamato to last longer in writing as a STALLER but Kaido is maybe hoping Luffy does come back as he's actually the one who is split the sky level not this fraud who scales no where. Yamato's also a Yapper and Kaido just claps back so who knows how much they were Yapping offscreen. They didn't match that Bagua.

[@zelz3011]

I'm more of a Sanji Stan but like I literally can't find any place Yamato ever really scales.

[@michaelrodney7898]

blunt force vs slice attacks i can see 9 sword style dicing her tf up if it hits

[@manigaultdeante]

Yoo thank you everytime i would say yamato is stronger than zoro or comparable people would say zoro oneshots or it isnt close and im like what bro only damaged kaido while yamato did the same thing and fought kaido one on 1 like luffy did bro zoro didnt do anything like that and his hell form is only unquantifiablly stronger than asura that is it but not enough to get him to base luffy with advanced conquerors or yamato with advance conquerors

[@beepboop4833]

Very disengenous to say that Zoro was on death's door because of fighting King bruh Zoro has much better attack power. Using the argument that her knocking Kaido down means she did more damage than Zoro is silly. What's more likely to knock someone down? A swing with a metal club or a sword cut? The Scabbards knocked Kaido down with their combined attack, so was that stronger than Ashura? Yamato didn't do all that much significant damage to Kaido to be honest. Zoro went from tickling King with attacks that could hurt Kaido, to making King worried to take Zoro's attacks even with his flame on. Zoro is much more powerful now than he was on the rooftop. Zoro was also able to break King's armament haki infused sword with his last attack, when King easily clashed blades with Zoro earlier. Speed is a toss up imo, Zoro already had multiple impressive speed feats on the rooftop and later received a haki bloom, but Yamato was shown as relative to Kaido in a prolonged fight. Yamato is vastly more durable than Zoro though, Zoro would have been down after taking the attacks she took from Kaido. He can take some attacks from Yamato though, especially through his insane endurance. Zoro can heavily injure Yamato with his strongest attacks, but she has her ice armor and is great at blocking attacks. It's a very close fight imo, with speed possibly being the biggest decider. I'm not mad if Yamato is the victor, since Zoro just unlocked ACoC, but the ap scaling in this video was incredibly biased.

[@mohammedjameel4939]

Maybe Zoro could defeat base Yamato but if she awakened her df Zoro wouldn't stand a chance

[@mohammedaldeghaither6555]

Bro, you’re intentionally giving half truths to try and prove your point. Zoro after fighting King was down because the damage he sustained through the roof top battles was doubled afterwards because of the drug. When Zoro was using Asura, at that point he was preforming better than Luffy. Its only after that when Luffy started using Coc attacks Luffy started to do some damage. Against King, Zoro only needed yo Land three hits to take out king. In conclusion, Yamato takes the fight pre Coc awakening. Zoro takes it afterwards. Its pretty close either way.

[@haydenguy8031]

Your scaling on zoros ap is really weird obviously the guy who throws giant punches is gonna knock him down and not the guy using a fucking sword and your still downplaying zoro cause zoro was weakened and not even using acoc yet which boosts all stats btw wtf would yamato do against a koh asura and you said that yamato was "casual" against kaido when she was going all out and saying that zoro struggled more is pretty weird considering the panel you showed zoro litteraly cuts up king right after but you dont wanna show that right? and zoro did way more in and matching hybrid kaidos thunder bagua doesnt mean alot when zoro has better ap than that now and he can block every single attack easily considering he blocked a combined attack from 2 yonko at once

[@Bowmacho]

Let's be honest bro Zoro is definitely winning this fight. I believe Zoro could have given Big Mom a run for her money too But given the fact that oda wrote it that way It was a fight against first commander's only. 😮‍💨

[@GrapoTheRatKing]

IVE ALWAYS SAID THIS NOBODY LISTENED, ONE PIECE FANS JUST HATE FACTS AND ITS ALL ABOUT THEIR OWN AGENDA

[@svz1345]

Yamato is garbage as a character. But she is really powerful and that should always be acknowledge.

[@Bowmacho]

Nah bro I understand what you were trying to say but I got Zoro almost beating Big Mom on his own for at least severely damaging her. Plus You're giving out her too much credit when her hits are shallow at best given her showing against the admirals.

[@DemonFist94]

This boy drinks 2 piece and eats bleach.

[@samuelprice9647]

Ah yes let us just skale a Zoro that hat every bone brocken to Yamato

[@samuelprice9647]

And against King he still had his bones brocken

[@aaronsevere3050]

your not using actual comparable feats. your just manipulating it to seem like yamato actually has the categorys on zoro, like saying yamato was matching g5 luffy snakeman js wild, and yamato LITERALLY does not have a better ap feat then zoro. bc he scared hybrid kaido without acoc

[@aaronsevere3050]

i agreed with most of your vid but this scaling is buns

[@DemonFist94]

Yamato fresh but Zoro 30 broken bones and Also Kaido barely fought her like he did against Luffy

[@GhxstyfromtheM2.0]

Pretty much zoro would be stronger naturally since he only using Haki + weapon.. Yamato has DF + Haki + weapon.. Take away the DF from Yamato and zoro might take the lead

[@SSGShambles]

Rare W

[@Jaheemjb]

Great content but after all that I still can't see zero losing to yammato 🤣🤣

[@fresh8006]

Zoro wins Bro got better haki, speed, Ap, endurance, iq, biq. What do u want more? Oh ye better feats also...

[@NotHalfEatenPotatoes]

L

[@OutletR]

Zoro defeats Yamato but Sanji can't, very "Bull fake" of you to say so, Sanji's Ifrit Jambe is not as strong as ACoC since It took 10 attacks for him to defeat Queen while Zoro it took 3 ACoC but Sanji no morals not defeating Yamato Extreme Diff is very bias of you, but Zoro can, again Zoro is stronger but not that much from Sanji.

[@ansh2771]

v close but zoro does win considering he got a lot stronger and can use acoc freely now. (ignore him being tired after fighting seraphims tho 😂

[@allaccordingtokeikaku1353]

finally someone with sense yamato > zoro

[@JusDion]

i need you to do luffy vs zoro and dont forget even sun god nika can be cut and kaido didnt once perception blitz zoro let alone king of hell