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[@jaceduhon3118]

This might be the best skateboard tutorial I’ve ever watched

[@ValidX1]

Man I don’t know of any other channel that goes in such detail for skateboarding, been following for a while now and finally ready for the kickflip. This helped like crazy and the program is such a good idea please go full force with it and license it so it won’t get taken, you deserve it🙌🏾🔥

[@whythetrick]

Hi thanks for the comment! Kindly give it a shot and give me your feedback!

[@PoopShitz]

Rodney Mullen would love this channel

[@aerodanamics]

Wow... 8 years of skateboarding and I'm still learning how to make my tricks better. This video improved my kickflip after only a single watch. Amazing.

[@nextlvlroy]

what did you change from what you were doing to from what you learned from this video?

[@daniele.2944]

@@nextlvlroy thinking about getting full extension throw my popping foot

[@micahmanley613]

I'm 43. I haven't skated in like 25 yrs. Started again 3 days ago. I ollied a couple times today, holding onto my car. Being able to visualize what I need to do helped so much! Thanks for these phenomenal videos!!!

[@mr.e8561]

Truck looseness/tightness can effect foot placement because you want the board flat at the beginning of the trick. Too much lead foot gets in the way of the board. The back foot to stabilize can get in the way too. Flicking with aggressive pressure early can provide a full flip w/the board meeting your foot flat.

[@PHeMoX]

If you are balanced on your board, the looseness of your trucks makes actually zero difference. If you stand on the edge of the board to one side too much, either put your popping foot more in the middle of the pocket or lean more towards your toes to compensate. It's possible to be balanced on a skateboard with very very loose trucks, just fine. If you are not balanced, then you are _absolutely_ leaning too far back (at least during the pop). It also does not matter how much of your front foot is on the board either. You can do kickflips with your front foot hanging over in a complete 'heel flip' position. The real position of your front foot actually does not matter. The direction you flick to and how much force in which directions, does matter 100%.

[@mr.e8561]

@PHeMoX Of course ( Matt Rodriguez, or Daewon) but this is for beginners who haven't developed the muscles in their legs yet. That takes awhile of consistent skateboarding to loose that baby animal standing on all 4 for the first time. Not saying you're wrong, just trying to pace needed info out in a realistic/practical way for beginners. 🤝

[@paulvawter8205]

Only if a beginners leg muscles are somehow weaker than the strength just one of their fingers possess. Did you even watch the video man? Lol

[@mr.e8561]

@Paul Vawter 17 likes later I finally got a troll.🙄

[@AndyTheChef]

Thank you for these videos, you are a blessing

[@thundernixon]

Very cool idea with the motion sensing 3D app! Can’t wait to try it out. I’m verrry slowly clawing my way towards kickflips. I’ve landed only two, stationary, in about 6 months of near-daily practice. I am getting much closer than I used to be, but right now I’m still having trouble with the board turning backside, or (when I get closest to landing) landing with my feet too close together, at the tail, and slipping out. I have found it really key to visualize flicking down slightly at the edge of the nose, with that rotational motion. What a shockingly hard trick to nail down!

[@maximedamours2940]

Litteraly the best kickflip tutorial i saw, i saw so many since i have a hard time with this trick even though ive skated for years and im happy to see a proper tutorial with a more in depth vision

[@devonavich4301]

Thanks for the tips! I’ve been working on my flick and this helps.

[@youtubename7733]

You explain things so well thank you!

[@yoohanjr]

brooo thank you so muchhhh i love your videos as they give me so much insight on the physics portion of skating, as a person who loves physics and loves skating the perspective u give makes it more interesting thank you

[@DeafWhatYouHerd]

Nice! I also feel that leading with your knee helps keep the board under you. When you lead with your foot the board tends to shoot forward away from you.

[@ry3d26]

Great tip, thanks! This is the problem I have

[@nextlvlroy]

do you also jump back?

[@DeafWhatYouHerd]

@@nextlvlroy A kickflip is basically a skip with a flick. Don’t jump back but stay squared towards the back of your beard. 1. Skip straight up with your knee to the side and your foot under you. Remember to jump up high and not just your legs. Your head should be higher than it 2. Wait for your knee to get as high as you can before flicking straight out. Keep it level, don’t kick down or up. Look up Tom’s Tutorials for another good video on kickflips and heelflips. Hopefully this was helpful

[@JohnnyEase]

Great content, very informative!!

[@bigslickphoto1519]

This vid helped so much. My flips got even better when I went with a shorter wheelbase.

[@darkalleywaystudio3975]

I love that you included 3d models. As a 3d modeler and skater, I appreciate the work put into this video. Also good tips 🤘

[@tempexrer5627]

Thank you for these videos. They are so interesting and give me lots to think about as I'm skating and trying tricks.

[@whythetrick]

Glad you like them!

[@whythetrick]

Thank you for your support everyone! If you'd like to try the whythetrick system, please give it a try from here: whythetrick.io/

[@IrishDublinDave]

Great series. Thanks for making these

[@whythetrick]

You are very welcome.

[@igetitlitsoicansit2950]

incredible. thank you for all your effort

[@whythetrick]

My pleasure!

[@josuenavas548]

great vid :) I would love to see a whythetrick on the physics of an impossible and how to scoop them

[@barisharslan6997]

Another banger video and very helpful as I am currently dealing with pretty much all the issues you mention in this video. Definitely will apply these tips during my next session. The motion converter is such a cool idea! I had a similar programming idea where instead of tracking the human body it would track various pieces of the skateboard. That way you could kind of visualize your pop or flick or whatever but from the point of view of the skateboard. Just a little idea I had, not fleshed out or anything.

[@josefidelbenitodiaz5646]

You are the Best!

[@redwavez3436]

Awesome video! I love skating, physics, and AI! And I'll try these tips, as I've had that exact issue with my kickflip attempts!

[@sicey]

Great video. Thank you

[@mello-sesh]

Another great vid love the science behind skating

[@HarMegiddo]

BY FAR THE BEST TUTORIAL THAT HAS HELPED ME! MY HERO!

[@whythetrick]

Haha thanks for the comment. You are very welcome.

[@filipemecenas]

Im old on skate , and i learn so many new things here ,every video !! Much respect !!

[@whythetrick]

Happy to hear that!

[@ikadreeminn]

Welcome back, nice to see ya again!

[@whythetrick]

Likewise. Happy new year!

[@igetitlitsoicansit2950]

perfect timing on this video. i recently did the best kickflip i ever done, and it was because I put less effort into it. and i couldnt figure it out, but its definalty my leading knee. thanks for this

[@whythetrick]

True. Flicking too hard somehow makes it flip slower.

[@zachsmith6970]

Yo! I love your videos and generally agree with everything you say, so I hope you’re open to hearing skater/peer feedback on a tip you covered about weight distribution (5:52). Putting your weight toward the front foot at the moment of flick may be specific to your kick flip technique where your shoulders are almost perpendicular to the board. After years of trial and error, I had the opposite experience. I get substantially more pop and control if, 1. Angle shoulders towards the direction your front foot’s pointing (usually 30°-45°) 2. At the moment of pop put your weight on the back foot, (make sure your standing on the ball of your foot) to the point where you’re basically using your front foot to just keep the board down. When you bend down, align your center of gravity with the horizontal center of the board (heel to toe side). You should be in squat position facing the same direction as your shoulders. Straighten your back a little bit and look forward rather than hunching down. For reference, your head should hopefully be over the middle of your board (long-ways). Now, with all your weight distributed on the back foot on over the center of the tale, the front foot can relax and placing more of your shoe’s surface area on the board won’t affect your crispy pop 💥 Plus your front foot/ankle’s relaxed so it’s more responsive. So now while extending your knee, foot, then entire leg through the nose (in that order, like a karate kick) your foot will act less stiff and more similarly to a rubber band. You’ll find that it takes half the effort to fully flip the board, allowing the board to remain in a controlled position. The next time you’re watching Pro skate videos, when they’re bent down about to flick, observe where their center of gravity is located rather than their weight. Again, love your videos man - your teaching method is SO refreshing! Looking forward to your next one.

[@whythetrick]

Great point! Thanks for the feedback!

[@NathanLin]

you are a freaking genius.

[@FickleWid]

ありがとございますにはキックフリプ学習。I'm finally feeling comfortable enough with my ollies that I started practicing this trick too, great timing :)

[@rfaell7001]

this dude is the best example of dedication

[@esp_09]

superb video

[@klock_tax3150]

This is gonna definitely help me. I always tried learning kickflips head on without much practice because I thought I had a decent understanding of the flick and could consistently land them standing still. But moving made it really scary trying to get my front foot back on the board, back foot always made it though. So the back foot step off should give me a feel for keeping my front foot closer to the board for landing.

[@dreamisover9813]

Love the explanations and also the 3d visualizations!

[@joeywood156]

You are my savior, I’ve been scouring the internet for this exact trick tip thank you kind soul

[@whythetrick]

Thanks for the comment! Give it a shot and give me feedback!

[@MIKEK3NT]

As Chris Cole said in his trick tip, just go for it!!

[@HarMegiddo]

One of the key things you said was shift the weight to the front foot right as you pop. That had immediate results for my foot flicking along with pulling my front leg up and bending the leg like I am doing a high knee but keeping my shoulders in line with the deck so it doesn’t turn.

[@User-vw2if]

Yo this dude is the 🐐 at teaching, followin u 4 life 😂❤️

[@whythetrick]

Hi thanks for the comment! Glad you like it.

[@AvalancheReviews]

That park you always skate at looks so perfect. I'm in Tokyo and I can't find too many flat ground spots that I like.

[@whythetrick]

I know, right? It’s Tamachi skate park. Komazawa’s also big but tend to be crowded all the time.

[@Bahomar]

thank you so much, cheers

[@whythetrick]

You are very welcome. Have a nice one.

[@golvellius6855]

Dude your are awesome Subbed

[@whythetrick]

Thanks alot!

[@lochieaxon]

Love these videos! Great info Gave the motion converter a try, not sure if it the videos I used were optimal, but didn't have the best output. Maybe you could display a good example video on the site as reference?

[@whythetrick]

Ahhhh…..okay that’d be nice. Thanks for the feedback!

[@maru5259]

I love the fact that skating is just physics, having concrete mathematical reasons why things must go right or wrong gives me a much stronger foundation to work off of I can rn, but in a week or so I'll have my Pc up and running and I'd love nothing more than to give the AI a shot :)

[@rvasquez151]

great work friend

[@whythetrick]

Many thanks

[@Jwolf010]

This is like so extreme and cool

[@gabrielviero]

I'd love to hear you talk about pumping on transitions

[@etaks420NZ]

I watched the way Aimu does kickflips and it’s like he counter balance’s his feet by the way his feet are positioned.I tried it and what it does it it forces the trucks to be straight as you snap the tail.Using counter balance the pop is explosive and it literally sucks up to your feet.If it wasn’t for a skater from Nippon I would have never have known that.I have been skating since 2001 and I changed the way I do kickflip’s because of a guy who wasn’t even born when I starting skateboarding.Shout out to the Nippon skate scene much respect from New Zealand.

[@RonLemen]

Don't know if you read these anymore, but if you are thinking about a new round of why the trick break downs, maybe curb/ledge tricks? The science behind the feeble grind on a curb? Thank you for all the work you put into these and I hope you are making progress with your converter.

[@whythetrick]

Hi thanks for the comment! I always see all comments. Especially suggestion like yours is too valuable to miss. Will try!

[@paulvawter8205]

I’d imagine that trying to cover anything other than solely flat ground tricks (and by flat ground I mean perfectly level surface), would be trying to add-in/cover wayyyyy too many variables at that point. As with each new variable introduced, the number of possible outcomes/influences/combinations/complications becomes exponentially more varied by orders of magnitude. I mean you see how many variables there are just between both of your feet, the decks nose/tail/wheels, your shoulders, your weight distribution/center of gravity, timing of everything, etc. now add another object in the mix like a curb. And it would have to only ever be a curb of consistent height/slope that stays exactly uniform throughout itself relative to the ground it’s next to/your skating on. Then trying to convert that to 3d models… when one day the curb is freshly waxed, the next it isn’t… just that one factor alone makes too many inconsistencies. Cause remember, these 3d diagrams are based off of him actuslly skating/real life. It would just be too convoluted. Something like a mini ramp might be possible. As they tend to be much more uniform. Aslong as he only ever did it in the same exact miniramp. But still… just a lot of variables. This is the reason I believe most skaters say you have to go “by feel” when it comes to so many things. Because breaking them down scientifically is just exhaustingly complex/convoluted.

[@lilquicX]

you got yourself a new subscriber well done

[@whythetrick]

Thanks for the sub!

[@lilquicX]

And i thank you for your valuable time and effort:)

[@astropop2]

i've been typing in "Skateboard physics" on youtube for YEARSSSS looking for something exactly like this....

[@osiris8887]

My usual method for trying tricks(but kickflip in particular) was to bend down but before lifting my knees, CHARGE Up my front foot to flick soon as i lifted up into my pop, similar to what you would do in a pop shuv it with your back foot . I THEN REALISED while holding on to a gate trying kickflips that this method was actually making it impossible for my board to lift up because it pushes the nose down and the tail agains my foot making it catch and impossible to flip(Hence the sticking). So i figured out that lifting both knees straight up and your foot straight up then flickin "late" works better. This method made my tricks higher and also now im able to grab the board

[@ethikzmedia]

thats technical! wow

[@Uvogin5676]

You perfectly described the problems with my kickflips. It seems when I don’t really think about it I do all the steps you say and land, but when you’re too focused you miss a step.😅

[@whythetrick]

Wish you the best luck!!!

[@krustenkaese3905]

Very informative and helpful, as usual. I also think the idea with the motion converter is really cool.

[@whythetrick]

Thanks! Please give it a shot.

[@syauqejamaludin]

I just change my board from 8 popsicle to 9.34 shaped and wheel from 52mm to 54mm and hardness from 97d to 101d. So far my ollie super poppy and landed 95% of tries but my flick trick all were off. This video help me to land some. Thanks

[@realmorgan3075]

Nice job

[@whythetrick]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@techmech2030]

HOW HOW HOW ON EARTH this video is not getting millions of views 😓😓😓😓😓 Man! KZbin should have already awarded you, dont tell me something else 😩 Ya! You rock!!!!!!

[@whythetrick]

Haha yeah I know, right. Thanks for the comment!

[@scanmusik4660]

Nice animations! The shoulders in your example flips are way to open...A good advice is also to stay in line with the board

[@djmax01]

I love when he says "liftin ya bodi" ❤

[@pimkoopmann2281]

Never thought I'd hear the sentence "I need your help" without someone asking me to like or suscribe on yt! Nice. I was very eager after your first kickflip video and the flick was working, but I didn't realise I kicked down. Plus for some reason I am unable to jump properly, even though I can ollie up curbs. If anyone has an idea how to overcome this, I'd appreciate it.

[@whythetrick]

Glad I could help! Will see if I can talk about the jumping problem you mentioned.

[@shainedupuis2649]

It's a TENDER ankle roll. Which is tough to do among so many other BIGGER motions going on at the same time. But once you get it, it's hard to lose it.

[@bsszzzz1779]

Was waiting for a new one.. and the one that I am stil fighting with...

[@therealcandyboiii]

You gotta do one for heelflip

[@32srt32]

its the leverage between the knee and ankle. the knee leads and ankle lags. as you flick your ankle towards your knee is the leverage that creates the power and how fast it flips.

[@sonywidi1617]

you are crazy man. you can create by modeling with science analytical. thanks man. it worked

[@whythetrick]

Glad to hear that!!

[@fireballs17]

Million dollar idea mate

[@lmclrain]

Thanks for the video, I think it could be much more educational with a skater explaining in real time his/her experience. The background explanation is really good, but I think the other way it could be much more entertaining and also it would be easy to get familiar with for viewers watching as if a friend would be teaching us .

[@whythetrick]

Good point! Thanks!

[@paulvawter8205]

Eh… don’t dumb it down for that audience. They aren’t watching your videos anyways lol. The older skaters are here and we’d be insulted if you tried spoon feeding watered down info to us. That’s what makes your videos so great and different than anyone else’s. Homeboy should just make his own channel where he does audio voice overs of everything you’re saying in more skate-rat lingo like “you must counter act downward-momentum by evenly distributing your center of gravity” - “aight ch’all so what he’s saying is to pretend like when ur gonna pop, your front of of your deck is a hot-potatoe and your tail is a cold-potatoe. Don’t wanna put weight on a hot-potatoe cause, like, damn… shit hella-hot tho- but after you pop see the old potatoe-switcheroony happens like potatoes do knw wt I’m sayin’, n the tail gets hella sizzlin’ n the homies like “shit son, I better lean more on the front foot now cause colder-taters is where it’s at son!!!”

[@da80]

Invert/plant tricks next please

[@whythetrick]

ha, i was waiting for that request in fact. thanks for the comment!

[@thundernixon]

Hey, I found this video super helpful! After about 8 months of a lot of kickflip practice, I finally landed two rolling kickflips yesterday. Many videos and personal conversations were helpful, but this practice method and flick advice was particularly useful over the past 10 days! My most common problem is still that the board moves forward and turns backside. I think it is partly that I need to get the pop “backward” more consistent, and partly this flick advice, and partly that skaters are *actually* flicking and jumping to the heelside by a good bit. This heelside direction of the kick seems to counteract the Z axis backside spin that occurs if you simply flick forward on the heelside half of the board. Anyway, lots more work to do. But thank you for helping me think about this trick in new ways!

[@whythetrick]

You are always welcome. Glad to know you are making progress!!!!!

[@thundernixon]

@@whythetrick Thanks! Had a drought for a few days, but just landed 6 yesterday. I found it really helped to let the nose come up higher and further back. The latest video from Local Joe explains it really well.

[@thezachsshow93]

bro explained it so good i learned math

[@Dave0Star]

I have the worst habit of flicking out and up which causes the deck to half flip but yes the kickflip is almost a angled down flick 👍

[@Robebabu]

Other than what you've mentioned here, the problem I always have with kickflips is my board spinning sideways and hitting me hard in the shin. That is what makes me want to not practice them the most.

[@whythetrick]

hope this one helps kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2qlZaV3rrSajKc

[@jaredlopez-alamilla3113]

I hope the server hosting the software can handle the flow of skaters uploading all their sessions.... you will get a massive database

[@toppaine4008]

can you please make a science explanation on hardflip plss I want this trick so bad

[@marsbase3729]

awesome! it's all physics! 👍😎👍

[@pizzakicks8328]

モナークの板カッコいい！

[@whythetrick]

いいですよね

[@localbitcoin5720]

smply the best

[@venividdivici0]

👏👏

[@MARCONIPUMA]

Back in the day the only way I could figure out a kickflip was pausing my THUG games

[@abuhaneefa7422]

This make sense As soon as i done watchin your indepth explanations, i fixed the flicking direction and booom! Easily i executed my kickflip, hell i managed to flip it into nosemanual by accident too Thanks bro Can you do indepth on how to kickflip nosemanny?

[@whythetrick]

Glad to be help! Will try!

[@rmhfpv9225]

front knee leading in front of the nose is a huge part of the trick

[@yhuanpatag5007]

Any tips of how to land with both feet cause the foot that only lands is my back foot

[@feintxdd]

Is this America? This area look so nice to practise skating man... Im jealous

[@whythetrick]

Thanks for the comment. It’s Japan.

[@Sychaotix]

Heel Filos next and why they sometimes go behind me.

[@whythetrick]

Noted! Thanks for the recommendation!

[@PHeMoX]

I think most of 'front foot sticks to the board' stuff comes from people explaining how to do kickflips kind of incorrectly. I'm talking about the whole 'flick through the nose' stuff we often hear recommended. While it is not completely wrong, people will think fairly heavy friction and force into the nose is required to make it flip, but actually you only need to guide it a little bit and it will rotate at least halfway pretty much automatically. The more friction and force you put into the flick forward, the less the board will be allowed to rotate freely. For this issue, the type of kickflip (levelled out properly, rocket kick flip or even mob kickflip) actually does not matter. The issue is not related to the flick direction or 'style', but rather the intensity of friction and how long your front foot stays in contact with the board. Skaters like Nyjah have a very high amount of contact and friction in their kickflip flick, however with his foot position it's all only there for less than a split second, resulting in fairly fast, consistent kickflip rotations.

[@whythetrick]

I think you are absolutely right. "Flicking" and "pushing" is commonly mixed up. Nyjah once said in an interview he puts only the tip of his toe osf his front foot, saying he doesn't flick so hard after all.

[@JulianGoddard]

Love your webapp. What do you use for pose estimation?

[@whythetrick]

The foundation is Google's Mediapipe (google.github.io/mediapipe/) but I added some customization to it.

[@Bfrsgjmvdwwerrfg7]

You should 1. License that app 2. Include the skateboard in the model, respectfully

[@claysoggyfries]

It’s so annoying because I can only flip it halfway

[@vincezito3547]

Skateboarding is all subconscious physics equations. I normally am skating best when im ballanced nose to tail and heel to toe

[@user-nc5pq2cv2p]

How do I get to the 3d model examples of the kick flip, on ur website?

[@whythetrick]

Thanks for the comment. Just re-uploaded a 3D model on the following page. whythetrick.io/how-to/kickflip-sticking-problem/ ** sorry, it was not active until now. Please give it a shot and give me feedback.

[@thickkyboyy]

i give up i just keep cutting my legs up and i cant catch it with my front foot barely catch it with my back just not fit for skateboarding

[@dezolatestation]

lmaoi just realizing that fingerboard and skateboard literally had the same motion,, if too fast to flick the finger, it will overflip or even not flippin at all, learn to flip first rather than landing it first is on point!

[@Rockysbeats]

your like the bruce lee of skate philosophy :)

[@mehDOGIESRATS2222]

Sand the part of the board you flick . Makes kick flips much easier .

[@justinthong1844]

Is this closed source?? If not, wud be cool to see open source repo so I can contribute

[@whythetrick]

it's as closed as my heart lol good idea though. thanks for the suggestion.

[@nightmarereject]

I used to kick down for switch and nollie flips.. it worked but didn't look right.

[@trickydick9733]

Can you do one on heel flips and them going behind you? Your channel has helped with landing varials and kickflips. I understand the scientific approach alot more than some of the other tutorials. Thank you for all the help you throwin out.

[@whythetrick]

Thanks a lot for the suggestion! Will try!

[@justZ00]

Smthn that happens to me that i dont know how to fix and i haven't found any tutorials about is that i can't flick to the right,( i'm a goofy stance) so as mutch as i try to flick to the right i just push the left pocket down instead of the right pocker up does anyone know how to fix tht?

[@whythetrick]

I think I have the same problem. I'm regular footed and I can't quite flick to my left. Sometimes I end up pushing my board forward. When that happnes, I try opening my shoulders exaggeratingly. That way, it's easier for me to flick. Just my personal preference though.

[@shinda_shima]

Which skatepark is this? Is it in Tokyo?

[@whythetrick]

It’s Tamachi skate park in Tokyo.