WI v. Jeffrey Dahmer (1992): Dr. Olson & Victim Ronald Flowers Jr.

WI V. DAHMER (1992) - Dr. Olson & Ronald Flowers Jr. - A doctor who treated Jeffrey Dahmer takes the stand, followed by Ronald Flowers Jr., a man who escaped Dahmer.
A new Netflix documentary "Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story" explores the gruesome story of Jeffrey Dahmer. Court TV cameras were inside the Wisconsin courtroom in 1992, where a jury was tasked to decide whether Dahmer, who pleaded guilty to the murders and dismemberment of 15 boys and men, should be sentenced to life in prison or admitted to a mental institution.
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[@Curious-Irish-Angel]

No because in that link I have to agree to "tracking cookies" and there is ad after ad... Why don't you have his trial playlist on your YT channel?

[@stephaniem6369]

please share a better link where we dont have to agree to cookies why don't you do it so it's free for us to watch where can I find this whole trial ....?

[@scottie2hot]

Dahmer got more chances and passes than I could even fathom. The police truly dropped the ball.

[@sandrad8640]

My point exactly,the fact that he was a white blonde guy gave him a free pass to.kill more victims,the cops were called many times they ignored everyone,except for the final 2 that found Tracy Edwards,that.poor Asian kid,the.cops literally handed him over to JD

[@charlottejohnson2070]

I am so truly sad and broken hearted that the boy kid cried for help and NO ONES instincts picked up on it. ( Like giving a child back to abusive family ) WE MUST WAKE-UP AND BE AWARE TO THE SITUATIONS AROUND US. (A child's/person's/animal's facial expression or demeanor, body language can give you information. You have to look for it, be sensitive to YOUR INTUTION, GUT FEELING GOD YAHWEH gave you. It is for yours and others safety. ❤️

[@TechnicJunglist]

Police did the same with Gacy as well. Disgusting.

[@BigAHNEE]

Perks of being white and gliding through the works effortlessly

[@Xanadu_xo]

@@BigAHNEE no there's black serial killers too 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@tammyd4110]

Wow he saved that guy’s life yelling for him not to get in that cab.

[@yesimmelody4321]

Just watched that part on the series

[@charlenemonique1]

@@robbymarton74 It’s a Netflix series called Dahmer

[@moonrain85]

@@robbymarton74 you living under a rock right now?

[@charlottejohnson2070]

Yes, HELPED SAVE HIS LIFE!!!!

[@lateasabyrd4335]

@@moonrain85 no fr cause how don’t you know 😂

[@deftrascal1626]

u can tell how upset Olson was, imagine giving someone medicine in good faith and u come to find they’ve been using it for horrific acts

[@chloecobbs512]

Right.

[@ditasmama]

😭😭😭

[@ronaldpreville1053]

It happens every day!

[@EvilEye172]

@deftrascal1626 You certainly can. He looks very, very troubled. I can only just imagine how mortified he was when he heard the news. I sincerely hope that he doesn’t blame himself!

[@JJ_5289]

@@EvilEye172 It sounds like he was operating within his rights as a doctor at the time. He probably thought he was doing the right thing. I think things have changed a lot especially with potentially harmful meds like opiates or sleeping meds. Doctors are more cautious with issuing more refills. Im sure the doctor does blame himself to some degree

[@michaelmashburn6068]

The police officers that handled these cases should be ashamed of themselves

[@Nah.ImCool]

You know they aren't. They are probably still somewhere giggling like schoolgirls over a crush.

[@nejuw]

They should have been in a cell with Dahmer.

[@British_Cocoa]

They have blood on their hands

[@nicolejames3054]

They should be in prison

[@Audioobscure]

They should be imprisoned, who cares if they're ashamed

[@lxlxh4703]

I feel like the grandma knew a little bit what was going on, that‘s why she wouldn‘t leave the boy alone with her grandson

[@nicolebrown1927]

I wouldn't be shocked at all.

[@TheTruth-kh2im]

Church going hypocrite grandma..she knew, yes she did. Satan has his demon back now

[@kurtrussell7539]

Maybe just because she suspected he was gay?

[@dayzeereyes128]

She prolly thought him gay

[@jocelynlabbe9749]

We don't know if the way it was depicted in the series is how it really went down. He can thank his lucky stars, because 17 others weren't as fortunate

[@mamarealtalk5850]

How brave Mr Flowers is to sit in front of that monster in court and so calmly recall such a traumatic thing. He helped to get some seriously heinous evil off the streets and he’s a hero for his testimony. May his soul be healed.

[@mariaslavinski1588]

Tracy Edwards got away that's how he got found out saw here on court tv last night if ya were interested in another 1 on J.D.!!!

[@MatthiasHamilton]

I wonder why they dont show flower's face

[@yesimmelody4321]

@@MatthiasHamilton for privacy reasons

[@MtlGirl]

@@yesimmelody4321 they showed victim Tracy Edwards face?

[@yesimmelody4321]

@@MtlGirl no

[@lyncressler2608]

This man had to realize how lucky he is when he woke up in the hospital still alive !!

[@Carmen-sy5rp]

Whenever there is a victim or witness on the stand, Jeff never looks up at them.

[@leahjones9626]

@loveutill theendoftimes I think he intentionally didn’t wear them for that reason. I heard that. Not sure if true.

[@alexandranowak3665]

@@leahjones9626 yes he said that in an Interview…

[@izzyjones7108]

How creepy and hideous to realize Dahmer had been all round you while you were unconscious..

[@jonathandoe2316]

Yeah you know 100 percent your being raped in your dreams. And Flowers was Dahmer was a pervert on steroids.

[@butter5144]

🥵

[@bri-bristhoughts9616]

Man I feel so bad for these witnesses. But they did such an amazing job under such pressure. And having to face their abuser!

[@nnewspodcast8717]

The Netflix show got everybody wanting more information on this lunatic….

[@DivineVibrations9]

I couldn't even get past the first episode. I won't be watching it. Then I asked meyself why was it made into a series anyway.

[@nnewspodcast8717]

Plz try

[@safeinhim2652]

The series scares me as there a the likely hood it has (re) introduced this monstrous lunatic to a multitude of wannabe copy cats.

[@kop1986]

@@DivineVibrations9 Because its a true story and very interesting

[@DivineVibrations9]

@@kop1986 “because it’s a true story” thank you, Sherlock, I would have never known. It still doesn’t explain why they’ve decided to do a series about it 30 years later.

[@makeHimknown3]

This NETFLIX series got me watching all these court cases. He knew who he was targeting and what would lure them

[@Classynfabolous005]

Me too I’m kinda obsessed at this point

[@TheIndependentLens]

From what I've been reading, it seems the Netflix series is changing some stuff from the truth.

[@Starae336]

@@TheIndependentLens yeah I noticed that when the runner actually showed up & Jeff comes out with a bat but in real life the runner never showed up that day..

[@cassandraleeds7904]

He was smart. Very smart.

[@THCmommy94]

Right! He was crazy BUT NOT stupid smh those poor victims and their families🥺🙏🏾

[@michelleallred8521]

I cannot believe that police were so unbelievably negligent in not stopping this sooner. He had the stop for weaving w Steven Hicks in the back seat, had a child molestation conviction, this incident & the horrific tragedy of Konerak. Had police ran his name, they'd have seen he was a sex offender & could have saved his life. The police who weren't thorough enough cost innocent people their lives. It sickens me those cops got their jobs back. Dismissing the condition of the boy, the women's insistence that this boy wasn't of age & then laughing over the radio joking about returning the gay, naked, Asian male to his sober bf & going to get deloused is absolutely disgusting behavior & should have permanently lost them their jobs. They definitely did not protect & serve

[@RayBetterThanEvilCanival]

“Lets have a cup of coffee” - *Dahmer says in the middle of the night*

[@ninawestlake14]

🤣👌💯 I said it! Always the coffee.

[@marydavis7978]

So glad I don't drink coffee!😄😄😄😄

[@missscarlett186]

​@@marydavis7978 he also offered coke

[@jaeyara2932]

I kinda laughed when he said "he's wearing a an ugly shoes" hehe

[@avae6290]

I came here to say this lmao I was dying at that part

[@Mrinaru]

Same😂😂

[@888agatha]

same lmaoooo

[@KeriAndElli]

35:00 " Maybe we should go and have a cup of coffee or something" 😂 Little shocked that the courtroom laughed

[@8luvbug]

Didn't noticed that until now. Wow

[@mndiec]

I’m pretty sure those were gasps of disbelief, not laughter

[@KeriAndElli]

​@@mndiec They chuckled, but whatever helps you sleep at night.

[@mndiec]

@@KeriAndElli what a weird thing to be defensive about

[@mrfrankiej932]

A nervous giggle. A 'you have got to be kidding me' kind of reaction. The fact that he would try that line again in light of everything he'd already done to that man. Damn right Mr Flowers went from 26 to 100 in a moment or two.

[@laurafedora5385]

That poor guy 😢 He must have certainly saved that other man from getting into the cab and saved his life

[@fredferl]

I like the older gentlemen defense lawyer's approach to cross-examination. He clearly has no interest defending the monster.

[@kenia5507]

😂😂😂😂😂. I SAID THE SAME THING😂😂😂😂😂 DAYUM!!!!! I mean DAYJM at Least try, hell he ain't giving no shyts😂😂

[@jocelynlabbe9749]

Some of the family members thanked him in their statements

[@jocelynlabbe9749]

​@@kenia5507 why would you have wanted him to try after Dahmer confessed to all the killings. He even helped cops find others they didn't even know existed

[@colonelkurtz2269]

Gerald Boyle

[@withgoddess7646]

He sounded intoxicated.

[@kingofeverything1638]

It’s sad that if you live in a poor neighborhood they think your life don’t matter. When you call da cops they take forever to come than when they get there they treat you like you did something wrong. We have to do better no matter where your from what color you are or who you choose to love. Every life matters.

[@jakedimmick1452]

so true. best comment here

[@motiveaquarian1111]

Sadly you are 100% correct.

[@tannasiathomas4662]

EXACTLY! SAY WHAT YOU REALLY TO SAY WHICH IS THIS CONTINUED SO LONG BECASE THESE PEOPLE WERE MINORITIES!

[@AgentChanelAlmighty]

Very compassionate point, this is soo true 😢

[@julieallbright5002]

It is so sad. The health care system is even worse to low income and people of color. It angers me how people judge so many without knowing a thing about them or their life. People should treat all with the respect and care they want themselves. It bewilders me how too many aren't interested in other's lives. It hurts me when I experience being profiled by doctors or others getting treated anything other than nice. Being kind isn't that hard and listening to people of all walks of life is very intriguing and fun to me.

[@slaphappybullet]

The lawyer not saying the name of the drug is almost like they’re trying to protect the pharmaceutical company from bad press. Nineties were a wild time.

[@relaxingsoundsforpeaceands3509]

My dad was roofied in a nightclub and found naked in car in the 90s I’m wondering if something like this happened to him. Or maybe Dauhmer was ever in Florida. ? My father is severely mentally brain damaged which made it impossible for him to raise me my mother took me and I only met my dad one time.

[@starart9767]

Interesting perspective. I would've thought it's so that other people can't use it in the same way

[@mirzafahim9382]

@@relaxingsoundsforpeaceands3509 hahahahahahaha

[@relaxingsoundsforpeaceands3509]

@@mirzafahim9382 it sounds funny but it’s true it really happened 🤣🤣🤣

[@relaxingsoundsforpeaceands3509]

@@mirzafahim9382 then I looked up of Dauhmer was ever in Florida and he actually lived in south Florida for some time it might be some missing ppl connected to him

[@BeccaL2016]

This is better than watching his documentaries and TV interviews.

[@GooglSucksDisk]

Truth is stranger than fiction.

[@Awillii]

Better for what?

[@coojae522]

He did really good! The fact that he had no idea that the grandmother saved his life.. jeff could have did so much soooo much to him

[@rox7900]

When Ronald said "I was looking at the meter and how dirty the cab was" then Dahmers attorney on the right side with short black hair couldn't help but laugh 🙊

[@jakedimmick1452]

i thot that attorney looked like frankenstien.

[@missscarlett186]

Apparently, she and Dahmer didn't get along

[@Kaite-wo9zz]

@@missscarlett186how do you know

[@easttowest5984]

Mr. Flowers probably saved the life of the man who was getting in the cab with Dahmer.

[@divadeb1907]

I'm so happy these witness came forward as difficult as it was,I know it's hard facing the person who violated you. But you are helping all the other people who weren't so lucky to make it out.

[@OutlookPositive]

What this has taught me is to never, ever, accept an invitation for help from an unknown individual that involves going into his home or anyone's home I don't know. No matter what. It has also taught me, if I don't know you for @ least 5 years, I am not accepting a drink from you if I didn't completely observe you make it from start to finish. Period. You just never know! Sorry, not sorry but just not getting into the practice of that. I've been lax when it comes to that. I will admit but time to tighten up.

[@ReturnOfTheJ.D.]

The reason you shouldn't accept that drink, and bear in mind no-one can physically force you to take that if you don't want to (so it is purely your choice) is that if the person has nefarious intentions, they will want to invest as little time as possible in you. They will definitely not go through the trouble of knowing you for five years before executing their coup de grace. Dahmer did know Tony Hughes for about a year before he killed him, even building up a friendship, but he did kill him in the middle of an eight-murder frenzy in 1991, which saw him caught before the seventh month of that year had even elapsed. I doubt he could control himself at that point.

[@Ihavehadmanynames7779]

All of his victims put themselves in a vulnerable position. Correct me if im wrong but that seems to be the case for the most part.

[@Danielle11533]

Not every one of his victims had a drink from him he tortured them alert and alive

[@ReturnOfTheJ.D.]

@@Danielle11533 That's false. Jeremiah Weinberger was in a semi-unconscious state and I think Dahmer drilled into his skull and injected acid or boiling water to render him into a living zombie. Another guy, Ernest Miller I think, was stabbed after the sleeping pills didn't have the desired effect. There was no torture while alive and conscious that I've read about.

[@ReturnOfTheJ.D.]

@@Ihavehadmanynames7779 All murders took place in a private room in a house or hotel. All murders involved either sleeping pill laced drinks or blunt force trauma with a barbell and one time a knife after a drugging attempt. One victim (Doxtator) I believe was strangled without any prior drugging. One a couple of occasions (Tracey Edwards being the last of them) Dahmer had run out of sleeping pills and resorted to trying to get his victims drunk on liquor. That didn't work as far as I know. On two occasions, Dahmer drugged himself by accident - Steve Tuomi in November 1987 (where he woke up in the morning having killed him but with no memory of it) and later when a potential victim in his apartment switched the drinks unbeknownst to Dahmer, and then stole his wallet and a few items. We don't know who that person was as they never came forward.

[@queentalks3073]

That was so cold of Dahmer to say-no I don’t remember you, but maybe we could go have a cup of coffee. Wow…Wow….

[@kenia5507]

RIGHT!!!!! LIKE 👀👀 keeps the kinda person he really is in perspective.

[@Foxfire8787]

Totally taunting that guy. So maybe the guy who killed him in prison was telling the truth about Dahmer making grotesque and shitty jokes in prison to get a rise out of people

[@Mannie063]

Time stamp ?

[@kenia5507]

@@Foxfire8787 RIGHHHHTTTT!!!! Cause at first I was like 😒.yea right, now I'm like he really was making his food look like human body parts and putting ketchup onem FORREAL 😳😳😳😳 DAYUM

[@surajshokeen8034]

On Which part of the video did it happen?

[@azcrawley]

When he seen dahmer a year later & asked did he remember him & he said no let go have a cup of coffee & talk about it. Dahmer would’ve died that night . Cause he knew what to say to piss that guy off & he was pure evil.

[@katz8694]

Lucky guy to be alive

[@withgoddess7646]

He's been dead for a long time though.

[@Jordan-xg4pn]

@@withgoddess7646 No he hasn't. He's still alive.

[@QueenofMarine]

Mr Flowers was a fantastic witness. So well spoken and I love that he didn't hide his anger or loathing of Dahmer. It's infuriating that he was drugged and physically assaulted and the police did absolutely nothing. They missed so many opportunities to stop him and in my opinion, they have a big part to play in why so many young men lost their lives. Respect to Mr. Flowers, I hope he's well.

[@dewilew2137]

Poor Ronald. I hope you were able to get the help you needed to recover from this enormous trauma. No one should have to worry about ending up in a situation like this. I am so angry for you.

[@sarikajoshi7156]

Ronald is therapist himself infact when he met dahmer he was psychology student

[@mariasvard1701]

Jeffrey must have felt SO embarrassed

[@8luvbug]

Who cares

[@maier16]

Gramma saved his life and he saved another guy “ don’t go w him he is crazy “

[@Amira-nn7xn]

He’s voice is charismatically and smooth😯

[@fatimahhkfkfkf40]

Who?

[@melissahall2530]

make your own drink watch them! My kids are college age i warn them

[@neevarlark3147]

All of his victims I blame on the cops they were warned to many times and had to many times to catch him.. they wouldn’t listen to what anyone had to say but him and everyone knows the suspect will always say what it takes to get you off their backs so why talk with him instead of the ppl around him experiencing horrible moments of being drugged and his neighbors who were hearing weird noises and smelling rotting flesh.. I don’t even understand how the cops walked into his room saw blood stains on his mattress smelled rotting flesh and didn’t hand cuff him until they saw photos.. it’s ridiculous cops have never properly done their jobs still like this in 2022

[@solsticebaby]

Especially that Laos boy! The two cops (not the trainee) should be tried as accessories for goodness sake. They ignored three people trying to warn them, the victim's state of health, and told the fire dept to go away. They even told the women helping the boy to "shut up". They should have accepted being fired and left it alone at that and thanked karma for not making it worse. God only knows what's coming down the pike for them someday

[@jocelynlabbe9749]

Maybe not all, but at least 10

[@alphashewolf9109]

@@solsticebaby Well the one now runs a bar in Wisconsin in his retirement.

[@British_Cocoa]

Racism goes a long way

[@Tony-Taslud]

Race place a large role in how these men were ignored. The white man in the Black neighborhood, in the eyes of officers, just had to be shown compassion 22:04 and given unwarranted deference and sympathy for simply living in a Black neighborhood.

[@BredyVR]

Thank You, I need more court footage like this. Bundy, BTK, Gacy, Simpson...

[@goddess3278]

If you KZbin the person's name and than hearing or court footage you can find it, like you can watch all of Bundys court cases on KZbin

[@carvalone3076]

Dang, you sound like a fiend.....or a college student lol

[@Alexandria.Washington]

@@goddess3278 The act of searching on KZbin is, “Googling”. The search engine used is still Google since KZbin is not a search engine but a product of Alphabet/Google. Just for your information, not to criticize. ☺️

[@Lola-tt1wj]

Netflix has a documentary on John Wayne Gacy

[@slaphappybullet]

@@Alexandria.Washington …… they used that word to describe what app it can be found on 🤦‍♀️ you tried so hard to look smarter than someone and ended up lookin clueless 😂

[@l.r5770]

The way that flowers talked seems like he's a pretty no-nonsense guy. I hope he heals from the sexual trauma.

[@withgoddess7646]

He's been dead since 2015.

[@Foxfire8787]

@@withgoddess7646 no he hasn't he was recently on a 2020 documentary about Jeffrey

[@Jordan-xg4pn]

@@withgoddess7646 You must be thinking of Luis Pinet.

[@blastproces]

yea hes a big guy and very calm in his mannerisms very coo, but no push over,he was on the maury show in 1992 he wore a suit very smart

[@Itachi-go3bz]

I like the way Mr Flowers speaks for some reason.

[@patrickriodique2085]

Same. Reminds me of Dr. Dre

[@Tony-Taslud]

The ‘why didn’t you or your friends call the police’ question was the dumbest of the entire trial. Ronald Flowers, Jr. made her realize her folly when he answered with a question…lol. ‘Why would I call the police?’ He’d already taken them to the house and they’d interviewed him…. She thought she was getting ready to stump him and the joke was on her.

[@EternandaFudge.]

Why the heck would he call the police if the first time he called they did NOTHING!!! This defense is silly!

[@Tony-Taslud]

Defense lawyer seemed stunned when he hit her with this logic…

[@Girlilla]

At 15 I was placed in a hostel after leaving a plethora of abusive Foster homes. I was targeted by 2 adults in the building and was drugged and raped night after night without any knowledge of what happened the night before, how I got in my bed, and why I always woke up so shabby. It wasn't until around 2 weeks later I was laying in bed and I got my first flash back. It was just me drinking a few sips of a very very low alcoholic drink and boom, lights out. That evening they came to my room as I refused to leave my room. They bought me a little glass of drink, and this time I didn't black out of my mind but I did leave my body. I was unresponsive zombie seeing hearing and feeling everything that was happening. It was absolutely terrifying. I woke up in my bed and vowed never to speak to these people again. They banged on my door for days until I rang for my drug addicted mother to come and save me. And thankfully she came down. Although she laughed at my situation she still escorted me from the premises. I went to the police station the next day on tears and at the reception desk the rude lady officer asked me if I had proof. Well of course I don't have proof but I was absolutely date rapped repeatedly by 2 adults. She said she wouldn't be able to do anything and proceeded to dismiss me from the station. I'm 36 now and I still remember those flash backs. There's a sad one where they rolled me over and started on a other (unknown) unconscious young lady laying naked right next to me. How could the police not even go to their room disgusts me. I hate the law. Injustice exists because those paid to deliver it constantly fail. I would hate to have been one of his zombied victims... eyes flashing open catching elements of the scene around you while your paralysed. God please help us

[@shellisbeautyaddiction824]

Rose I am so sorry u had to go through that. Hopefully their day will come and they will get what they deserve come their judgement day.

[@Girlilla]

@@shellisbeautyaddiction824 thanks hun, I regret posting my story now, I think the feeling of knowing exactly what he (Ron) and some of his poor victims went through triggered me. Also, the police failing miserably. I'm still so angry to this day at them. The last occasion I attended their room I had made sure to keep my wits about me enough so i could be 100% sure they were up to something, and almost like routine, one went off to make drinks and one distracted me with small talk. The drink maker had his back towards me even though I tried to make small talk to get him to turn around. I was so young i had no experience with drugs or drugging yet i remember being highly suspicious and somewhat aware it was my drink being poisoned with something. He handed it to me and and i only sipped it a little as i was reslly just looking for residue of somesorts but as the drink was fizzy i guessed it dissolved. I took a few small sips only from the top of the drink before becoming dizzy and falling back. My first dazed look around the room the act was being committed as I lay there. I tried to leave but my legs were hard to control. I remember not being able to leave because the "fire exit" sign was glowing in the dark and I was so enchanted by it. It was so beautiful lol, I couldn't stop touching it. I wobbled to the window to try and climb out and it was then I was approached to finish my drink and boom, lights out until the next late evening where I woke up in a stupor for the last time. I had made sure I experienced this so I could go to the police and be certain something was off, and surprisingly when I had told the officer about the scene with the other female, the officer asked me to describe her. Me being mixed race had stated thr female was definitely no more than 17 and white and upon hearing this the officer became concerned. After finding out I didn't know the female and I wouldn't be able to track her down to get her to make a statement, it was then that the officer became somewhat uninterested and said nothing can be done without evidence. I was so angry! I vowed ill never go the police again, how could they! And it wasn't at all shocking to me a couple of years down the line I had heard about another young female who had attended that very same police station and gave NINE STATEMENTS detailing rape and abuse from her partner, only to be ignored. Her last statement she had told the female officer she was going to be killed for certain as she had heard her father and uncle on the phone talking about killing her. She said this! And left that police station only to go home and be murdered by her father and uncle. "Honour killing" they called it. "FAILED BY THE LAW" is what I say. Its a very sad watch, but there's a documentary about it on YT. Honour killing and failed should resemble the title. Another lightskinned young lady dismissed by racist white officers. RIP young lady I'm sorry that station still stands.

[@s_r1705]

It's just shocking reading what you have written. Who were the adults. How did they have access to your room? Where were you staying?. Every child deserves a parent. But not every parent deserves a child

[@jamaicasky]

Oh God sadly I believe it in sorry this happened to you

[@Girlilla]

@@jamaicasky thank and God Bless you for your concern. May your heart be protected by the negativity energy circulating this planet. Jeff's, my case, and many other victims who sadly suffered after reporting their grievance to the police is quite literally a set up. I've grown to realise that the police don't want to "help anyone in danger", because the offence isn't strong enough. They intentionally leave vulnerable people to be attacked and killed so THEREFORE that's when they have a case. Going to the police is useless, unless your dead. NWA were absolutely right ✅️

[@aquastar4336]

God bless all the victims and their families. You never deserved this.

[@reeceecup8969]

Very sweet comment god bless you

[@goliathmker3335]

Yes they did for being gay

[@makeHimknown3]

Never trust a man with ugly shoes 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@jos6232]

How could anyone defend this monster?

[@mariehoogeveen9033]

Because it’s their job

[@simoylakandula4997]

@DKMetro lmao no, if you watch some documentaries about Dahmer all the professionals he worked with felt some level of pity/sympathy for him

[@Buckeye2043]

I always wondered how he got the drugs to roofie these guys. What a psychopath. Hope he felt some pain in his final moments

[@naturallydessi2396]

He definitely felt pain he was beaten to death in jail

[@Starae336]

Really? It’s not hard to imagine it was the 90s after all

[@jocelynlabbe9749]

No amount of pain would've been enough.

[@art1cwolf774]

I’m he fs felt pain bro got hit with a barbell just because you get knocked out doesn’t mean you don’t feel it from experience

[@yabby2000]

I was a pill addict for 5 years. I could sneeze and my psychiatrist would prescribe me something. I was at one point prescribed 10 different medications. Barbiturates, SSRI’s, etc. this was in 2009 when it started. I went to a well known doc in NYC. Sadly, It’s easier than you’d think to get prescription pills.

[@74artgrrl]

Ughhhh I immediately understand where this questioning went. This doctor likely prescribed some of the drugs Dahmer used to incapacitate some of his victims. Dahmer usually drugged his victims by spiking their drinks.

[@miked6367]

Well spotted Sherlock 😂 of course that's why.

[@shawnr590]

🥴

[@tammi3121]

@@miked6367 😅😅😅😅

[@mamarealtalk5850]

He definitely prescribed them and he openly admitted to doing so. It’s not the Dr’s fault and he is not at all to blame. He had a patient coming in, complaining he couldn’t sleep and so he prescribed him sleeping pills. 🤷‍♀️ That’s his job. There’s no way he could no the psycho that Dahmer was or the foul intentions he had for use of the drug.

[@74artgrrl]

Lol I understand why I’m being ribbed here. It was an epiphanous moment, you see. 😊

[@SiiinginInTheRain]

33:10 bless Flowers for slipping in a devastating roast of Dahmer's ugly shoes while testifying

[@Foxfire8787]

He went easy on him, cause Jeffrey said one of the reasons he didn't kill flowers was because after he sobered up he thought flowers was ugly and too big

[@sourcream.]

@@Foxfire8787 thats not true. he didnt kill him bc flowers is a big guy and it would be hard for him to hide his body + the grandma saw flowers and jeffrey didnt want to make a collusion

[@Foxfire8787]

@@sourcream. I said Jeffrey said ONE of the reasons he didn't kill flowers was because he thought he was ugly after sobering up.

[@briannaa.]

@@Foxfire8787 where did you read that or hear that? I'd like to check that out!

[@Foxfire8787]

@@briannaa. The book Grilling of Jeffrey Dahmer

[@QT1nnakno]

Four Men plus the one Mr. Flowers told not to get in cab survived Dahmer. This could have ended 3 yrs prior had the police took him seriously.

[@shellisbeautyaddiction824]

Also his neighbor who called the cops many times and they still did nothing

[@SAGEXO]

17 refills? That unfathomable. It’s not the Doctor’s fault, but that should have been a red flag.

[@petevaldezbc1]

17 refills in 4 years...seems entirely plausible and low in fact

[@PresleysMom504]

Presuming they’re monthly or even 90 days, that’s not that much over multiple years.

[@dellawatson1669]

Oh it's the doctors fault alright... First of all, he looks evil, second of all the Dahmer's father had connections with the pharmaceutical industry and third, any time there is something of this magnitude going on, you best trust and believe that there was help from MANY institutions

[@thevixter82]

When you listen to the victims testimonies in court without the dramatisation of documentaries etc this is even more chilling, as you can vision what the victims saw and can imagine feeling their fear and anxiety before they blacked out. This victim in particular went through hell, when he woke up he had what must have been strangulation marks on his neck and carpet burns on his face, and one of Darhmers hairs on his groin, like what was he doing to this guy?? That has got to have been extremely traumatising, he said Dahmer didn't look at him all night but suddenly while he's drinking the coffee he's point blank staring right at him, obviously we know he was waiting for the drug to knock him out, but this guy had no clue, that must've played on his mind for so long after it and when the world found out what Darhmer had done will have made it all the more unsettling as now he knows Dahmer wanted to kill him to use his body for his sexual gratification, my god. This guy also saved another guy from that potential fate. This guy and the other victims were so brave to testify in court especially with Dahmer in their presence.

[@samfisher2306]

As scary as it is, your description of the events scared me some more. Especially the part where Dahmer was staring at Flowers, waiting for him to pass out. Omg.

[@sugarbum99]

those ladies don’t feel weird sitting so close to him?

[@olivia1577]

He wasn’t a threat to women so prob not

[@shyramecole5574]

Yeah, by watching the movie, I noticed he got so angry with his grandmother and neighbor Glenda Cleveland, but never wanted to hurt them. He put all of his energy into the men, but those female lawyers do appear to comfortable around that lunatic.

[@marissamoore740]

They were his defense team. They are representing him so they don’t have a choice really. They have no reason to be threatened at that point, even though it is a bit unsettling to sit close to someone like that.

[@bloom4807]

They don’t look all that comfortable to me. lol

[@lavenderbaker]

Ladies arnt for him just boys and men vile monster

[@jo3433]

I remember watching a documentary with his and a neighbor of Dahmers account of events and interactions. I think it's called The Dahmer Files or something close. Really shocking the police did nothing about the crimes on gay people back then.

[@harryzack4115]

AIDS had just broken out & nobody knew wtf it was they were idiots but I wouldn’t wanna risk it either back then

[@jenniferlauter5523]

This man was truly deranged. Pure evil.

[@saintsinner7565]

I can’t believe,that boy had a chain on him and the cops were like Meh it’s fine

[@amytrumbull156]

How can attorneys stand to represent people like him and talk to him at length, to sit right next to him? That astonishes me!

[@codename495]

Because all Americans are afforded the constitutional right to a fair trial, monster or not.

[@chadnipradhan1130]

i would like to sit next to him

[@amytrumbull156]

@@codename495 Obviously, but your statement doesn’t in any way address my question. I’m asking how they, as a human being, offer what amounts to a type of support (legal, moral, whatever) to such a person. Defense attorneys in general kinda baffle me. Everyone deserves representation but it takes a certain type of person to be able to deal with a monster like that.

[@Xanadu_xo]

@@amytrumbull156 and how can stupid women send him fan mail people are sick in the head 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@thedollbabys1073]

@@amytrumbull156 because if no one represents him he would actually not be able to be prosectured under the law. Someone needs to do it in order for justice to be served.

[@Mister_Holdsworth]

The opening statement defense said he too was not going to mention the drug because there were too many copycats who may want to do similar, but then he slipped up and mentions it about an hour into it. Not that it matters now as the Netflix show names the drug clearly.

[@justinthomison2551]

I know the blonde woman at the end of this video has a job to do. However, after everything Mr. Flowers recalled I wonder if this woman feels guilty in the slightest about asking questions like this? I couldn't be a defense attorney. Especially for someone like Dahmer.

[@BELIKEJUATER]

How come they showed Tracey face but not nobody else?

[@8luvbug]

Either doesn't want to be shown or underage

[@kathleenvickroy450]

No matter your budget, please get AAA or whatever is available in your state. If money is tight, ask for it as a birthday or Christmas gift. Getting stranded makes you vunerable for all sorts of danger. Another lucky victim that escaped this monster.

[@loyalandkindsunshine3382]

How sweet, I hate to be that person but I highly doubt that will work for black minorities

[@ramsaran18]

This prosecuting barrister is meritorious and exceptional; I wonder how he fairs today; he is a gem to his profession.

[@simplelifedays3692]

I can't stand this woman in green. what's her point?

[@brians7901]

He should have been arrested for this.

[@nicolebrown1927]

I concur wholeheartedly!

[@URLKASSH]

He looks like a Simpsons character 😳 dahmer!!

[@RS-dm4yo]

Right!!! From that angle with his lip curled-up on the side. 😆😆😆

[@cornflower9258]

I just have to say...it is so soooooo difficult to speak in front of a big courtroom about something so embarrassing, traumatizing etc. I sometimes get why people don't come forward, although I still encourage people to speak up Always. Because imagine talking about something so intimate that someone did to u. God. I'm proud of these people who spoke. It is not easy.

[@AmanSS890]

Dr. Olson looks like mr Fenny from boy meetes world the only thing he needs is the upper lip mustahe

[@goodazzwine]

Yes, thank you. I was trying to figure it out. ( :

[@platedlizard]

thanks for uploading this. Any chance we could get one of Bundy's trials? I know at least one was televised.

[@ashleymcmeakin8590]

I would love that too, but there's a bunch of footage uploaded here on KZbin of Bundy's televised trial.

[@DavidWilliams-so2dy]

Carol Daronch, who was abducted by Bundy and thankfully managed to escape, uploads portions of the Bundy trial here on YT.

[@ashleymcmeakin8590]

@@DavidWilliams-so2dy I'll have to check those out! I know I've seen portions, but I find his trial a little hard to watch. Boring at times.

[@fierce100]

If he can’t look you in the eye then he’s suspect

[@kettethomas4603]

The police dropped the ball 😳

[@Awillii]

They never wanted to hold the ball

[@aliciaroberts7416]

Netflix brought me here

[@katiejess9801]

Me too , so sad and awful for the families but yet so interesting 😔😔😔🤔

[@aliciaroberts7416]

@@katiejess9801 yes it is😢

[@Kalynfixescredit]

His lawyer knew he was guilty as sin! & still tried to flip it

[@mariehoogeveen9033]

You know that’s the job of a lawyer right?

[@leahjones9626]

@@mariehoogeveen9033 lol everyone keeps questioning the obvious - like there’s never been any attorneys for guilty people before

[@e.s.2]

No sh*t she knew. Since Jeff admitted to everything, they were trying to get him the insanity plea. She’s literally just doing her job.

[@judelinton2355]

I guess we all different, but the kind of person I am, I would have got suspicious of him insisting for me to have a drink.

[@74artgrrl]

This man went through hell.

[@christyguajardo963]

he never looks at anyone, I wonder what he is thinking about probably killing

[@madslynne7372]

I keep forgetting they didn’t have cell phones

[@jaeeluv]

They had them but not popular like now

[@Na_0161]

@A M can't serial kill like the old days 🤣

[@popeye5274]

Believe it or not, not having cell phones was great! Well, actually… not having social media was great. Wish we can have cell phones without the internet. Society would be a little more stable.

[@madslynne7372]

@@popeye5274 Yes I remember. Cell phones didn’t come out until I was almost through middle school.

[@revekat2053]

I got my first cell phone 7 years later in 1999.

[@laurenboyd3954]

Why didn’t he get a boost from the cab?

[@missyybee123]

Can you imagine mr flowers sittung at home watching TV and then the dahmer headlines running across the news and him standing up saying THATS THE MAN THAT WAS GONNA KILL ME!

[@joeydabbs1466]

Whos here after Evan Peter's chilling portrayal of Jeffery Dahmer?

[@leahjones9626]

Most people Since you can see how recent the comments are

[@londonk69]

His evil tail probably sitting in that courtroom thinking about eating somebody

[@yasruiz3694]

😅😅😅😅😅

[@EternandaFudge.]

😅😅😅😅😅

[@THCmommy94]

These lawyers man🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️ I could NEVER be one, the chance of having to defend a criminal like JD. No🥴 what type of person would bring themselves to do so?🥴

[@etvrnal]

she made herself look like a damn fool. 😂

[@leavemealone3304]

they actually all became close w him lol the detectives and attorneys

[@UmmeMoosa1342]

Mr. flowers is not funny but he did make me laugh a couple of times,unintentionally,,,,,,,’noticed his shoes that were, uh ,,ugly,,,,, how dirty the cab was’ 😆

[@charlenedavies333]

Pure evil! May all his victims rip

[@lorenzonapturna58]

Crazy how this case has come back into the limelight

[@lorenzonapturna58]

@Amber Sampson riiigghht...it's bizarre

[@jesusdaughter4299]

Just imagine being his mother or father! 🏃‍♂️🏃‍♀️

[@ksc9954]

Who is here after watching netflix Dahmer ?

[@Isabel_760]

She really has the audacity to say why didn’t you call for a taxi cab and why didn’t you call the cops when you saw Jeffery like ma’am ! One he was trying to get a hold of a friend ! Two the cops already knew where he lived and didn’t do anything ! do you not know how desperate and divesting that is for a victim to be let down by police officers.

[@onedollarbleach6891]

That part, you can see he was getting annoyed too bc he responded “why would I?”. I get that she’s a defense lawyer but she could’ve asked better questions 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@celestewinterbotham9624]

I have been let down by officers before and thought that I saw the terrible man that they looked for but I got to scared to do anything. I kind of shut down in a way so I understand why the person didn't report Jeff.

[@Foxfire8787]

@@celestewinterbotham9624 And they closed his first report on Jeffrey anyway, so what would be the point in reporting him again?

[@hiraausman4734]

Why are they not showing Ronald's face?

[@Foxfire8787]

He didn't want to be shown

[@hiraausman4734]

@@Foxfire8787 oh okay

[@KimberlyBishh]

You can picture the moment hearing Jeff's voice as Donald's saying it..

[@8luvbug]

Jeffrey's lawyer is gross and victim Blamey. How silly of her to ask him why he didn't call the cops the 2nd time he saw Jeffrey. THAT'S BECAUSE THE COPS DIDN'T DO ANYTHING THE 1ST TIME HE CALLED THEM, LADY!! Then she has the nerve to ask him why he wanted to beat up Jeffrey after Jeffrey tried to *kill* him!!!! 🤦😡

[@blastproces]

she was only 25 and her first case imagine that on your shoulders,she got harrased intimidated and attacked with a pool stick by a victim family,had to sit listening to jeff day after day

[@8luvbug]

@@blastproces I don't care that doesn't give her the right to imply that it's the victims fault that Jeffrey almost killed him. She still needs to be tactful and professional.

[@blastproces]

@@8luvbug i think shes just being thourough with his testamony and those questions are actually from gerald boyle

[@8luvbug]

@@blastproces Well the questions she asked are idiotic no matter if it was from her or Boyle.

[@blastproces]

@@8luvbug well thats your opinion and i have mine i guess its all history now

[@luckisntit7628]

Honestly people that rely on shows from netflix or anythin' really from Hollywood productions as a source of information on the subject is beyond ridiculous. Obviously they're gonna change lil things here and there. It makes the series more enjoyable to watch. Although Jeff was fuckin' crazy for what he did to all his victims. May they all travel with peace.

[@PresleysMom504]

Right? I keep seeing people say “it’s totally accurate, they stuck to the facts” which is absolutely NOT true at all. They changed quite a few things and specifics.

[@DiscografiaBR]

Quite annoying not to be able to see Mr Flower's face.

[@thepalettewhispererasmr1227]

Whoa....this dude is LUCKY. And, they should’ve removed your clothes at the hospital.

[@PresleysMom504]

Unfortunately many people were blatantly hateful towards gay folks, especially men-just look at those trash cops who gave the child back to him and laughed after and still retained their jobs AND won medals with the department. Plus men who are raped don’t get as much concern as women (although rape in general isn’t take as seriously as it should be). They likely didn’t have the strict guidelines for rape kits today back then.

[@melissalynn7976]

if you're not co hearant and not bleeding to death or anything they won't due to privacy issues etc. they will wait until you wake up and if your clothes are needing to be removed they will make you do it yourself..

[@AngelOfDeath1986]

Why have those "what the Dahmer story on Netflix got wrong" KZbin videos said that this whole part of the show was all fictional? 🤔

[@AngelOfDeath1986]

@Amber Sampson 🤦🏻‍♂️ The scene with the guy going back to Dahmer's grandmother's house, And gets drugged and ends up in the hospital, they said that was all made up, when it's obviously not lol, the proof is in the court video.

[@RS-dm4yo]

Parts of it is made up. Same with Tracy Edwards. They are telling the truth in the testimony, as they can be charged with perjury. However, when going on talk shows they embellish tremendously. In the Netflix documentary Flowers totally contradicted his testimony. They can say anything they want outside of court as that isn't against the law.

[@sharonletchford9375]

Wasn't his father a pharmacist?

[@daonpa]

@@sharonletchford9375 nope

[@cyntar556]

The grandmother complained of odors coming from her basement, geez, if the black guy that didn't get into the cab is still alive today I'd love to know how he feels and thinks about his life being saved that night..Dahmer was a true MONSTER 👹 and deserved death for all of the lives that he took, it's been about 31 years since this trial and many of those that got away are way up in age now.

[@allpro2812]

Dahmer looks like he needs the sleeping pills again.

[@ninawestlake14]

On a lighter note, Jeff loved coffee dates. A very cheap skate🤣

[@cleodontina1]

Not funny!

[@jaydacoon]

@@cleodontina1 humor is subjective obviously

[@basstard4639]

I was going to say this case is out of this world but the sad truth is this happened right here in the good ol USA.

[@donaldewert2332]

I live just 6 blocks from where it all happened!!!

[@basstard4639]

@@donaldewert2332 wow.

[@Johnny2Feathers]

Yes there are bad people in all countries all over the whole wide world, including the “good ol USA”. That’s the sad truth

[@PresleysMom504]

So many serial killers in US during 70’s-90’s. And still today! There’s one in Northern California right now that they’re looking for.

[@makeHimknown3]

Did his grandmother ever get on the stand. She needed to questioned big time

[@petershorts2643]

She died in 1989 and sufferd from dementia from 1980s,she never saw victims Netflix isnt 100% accurate with the Dahmer story so.....

[@mila1012]

She had dementia by the time he went to trial

[@8luvbug]

Grandma was gravely ill by this time

[@cmonbruh7139]

She had dementia at this time, pretty bad dementia too

[@andromedastar4900]

I think she was in a nursing home by that time and she died soon afterwards.