WI v. Jeffrey Dahmer (1992): Two Victims Take the Stand

[@CourtTV]

Watch the FULL TRIAL of WI v. #JeffreyDahmer (1992) on #CourtTV Trials #OnDemand www.courttv.com/trials/wi-v-dahmer-1992

[@cocotanya31]

That's what I been looking for thank u

[@stephaniegilcher4577]

Did Dahmer ever speak in court during trial besides his last Statement?

[@EVNL576]

@@stephaniegilcher4577 No

[@abundantlivingmindset_1]

The judge that handled the case of the brother who escaped didn’t punish Dahmer because he felt he deserved another chance at society. I would love to have seen his reaction to Dahmer becoming a serial killer instead. The justice system is a joke!!

[@mckayfam3090]

That was some * white power * second chance crap.

[@cali-guy9015]

Ah yes…the American justice system Will Never cease to baffle and amaze

[@cosbertulanda]

So tru & sad.

[@Chyna-b3p]

I agree 👍

[@daniellefields3386]

Very true white privilege

[@JG_SmileSOBright]

The fact that he had dead bodies in the APT and the smell didn't get him evicted is mind boggling. A dead mouse can stink up a place something fierce, I can't even imagine a human body!!! I feel so sorry for the people that complained and nothing was done. Can you imagine coming home to the smell of death? ☹️

[@renellsimmons3358]

it was the acid that thry could smell apparently i just read. so he blamed it on the fish tank

[@jamiedelano5910]

Because of homophobia and rascism. Failed by the system.

[@JNB520]

You aren't lying, a mouse died in my house when we first moved in behind the wall, we thought we got scammed bc the smell was so bad until my dad came in and said that's a dead animal but it was so tiny. Bodies & body parts would have been insanely bad

[@kimberlyearly7704]

@@renellsimmons3358 but she saying how could someone deal with that smell.🤮🤢

[@renellsimmons3358]

@@kimberlyearly7704 oh right

[@Elizabeth-yb6pj]

Note to self, never follow a stranger home, never take a drink from a stranger and do not trust a strangers who's house smells like literal death.

[@LCx829]

All common sense

[@kiaradavis236]

Sounds like victim blaming to me. For one, looks can be deceiving and also not everyone knows what a dead body smells like.

[@anemoia2661]

@@kiaradavis236 No, not everyone knows what a dead body smells like, but when you actually smell a dead body, you will instantly know. I don't know if you know what one smells like, but from first hand experience, it is the most potent, repugnant, putrid and vile smell you will ever experience. Its not victim blaming, its just absolutely mind boggling how they didn't run for the hills after just one whiff of that hellish stench.

[@youknownada2326]

Yeah but what he offers you €50 to get your weener out?

[@moot1066]

That's called common sense

[@kittymezzo]

This poor child...abused and traumatized, then his brother was murdered, and then had to relive his trauma in court and look at the monster who perpetrated all of it. I can't even imagine. I hope this young man has found peace. 💙

[@wawaw1194]

Not been funny but the brother basically did it to him self

[@malaijahmcclenton2354]

@@wawaw1194 like he didn’t deserve to die, but why would you bother with this man knowing what he did to your bother? And for only $100?

[@el-topo]

@@malaijahmcclenton2354 desperate times :/ and young people esp boys tend to have poor impulse control .. he didn’t think dahmer would kill him or anything, just take photos or touch him; at 14, i’d honestly would have agreed to it too for $100. kids are naive

[@majesty9985]

@@el-topo exactly and a $100 in 1988 is not $100 worth today

[@stryleyung3891]

@@malaijahmcclenton2354 Are you sure the kid knew that this was even the same man the kid was 14 yrs old

[@veemajor1721]

Fun Fact: So Dahmers MO was drugging his victims , putting sleeping pills in their drinks to instantly make them unconscious so that he could perform lewd acts on them before ultimately murdering them . Well, one time there was an incident where he lured a potential victim back to his place & made the drinks only this time Dahmer actually drank the spiked drink himself ..therefore immediately falling asleep on his victim ..when he woke up he noticed that the victim had robbed him and left . I thought that was an interesting case of luck and karma and ironically, a survivor story as well

[@raineyj560]

I saw the Netflix episode on that one but didn't know the victim had robbed him, NOT going back to watch.

[@tarhiamoore638]

That’s funny I was actually watching the dahmer show on Netflix, there’s an episode where he made that same mistake and kept trying to keep himself awake, he was so pissed 😂 😅 but he still killed the guy 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@Pagewithpurpose]

@@raineyj560 you're right. I watched it too. The victim didn't rob him. When Dahmer woke up the victim was dead

[@chinecheremgenevieve8595]

@@Pagewithpurpose he didn’t know when he killed this one

[@fidelia.stables]

I’m curious about the guy who robbed him, must have seen the things around the apartment and didn’t report it. But I guess the guy himself was a criminal by robbing Dahmer so … just interesting.

[@jermainereed9143]

That is my old friend and classmate testifying. I remember being in gym class with him when the principal made the announcement over the PA about his brother. My condolences to him and his family again.

[@haleyt3754]

That’s insane! I’m praying he’s healed now

[@kymfjohnson1]

That is horrible. I've also wondered why him and his family didn't warn his brother about this crazy person and that if he every ran into him to haul butt home. Did the brother he actually killed know what happened to the other one??

[@jermainereed9143]

@@kymfjohnson1 I never asked Somsak, nor did he ever talk about it. In fact, he never once mentioned to any of his school friends that Konerak was missing. We knew he hadn't been to school but they both were very quiet boys.

[@kymfjohnson1]

@@jermainereed9143 wow! Ok Ty God bless

[@kylehunt3189]

@@kymfjohnson1 The brother knew they had a trial for Somsak for Sexual assault.

[@8elionadvancing884]

You know when a strange man is hanging around a middle school asking kids to take pictures...bruh that's a murderer.

[@LadyDi0514]

I started looking up this trial after watching the Netflix series with Evan Peters. It’s so different watching the movie, THEN watching the real trial. The trial makes it soo real, especially the testimony from the last man who escaped and stopped this nightmare. Thank God for that- I’m just so heartbroken for the victims and their families’ that it couldn’t have been stopped sooner.

[@imhereforitall9218]

We all lived it. I think it is more horrific than any of here knew.

[@yerimarchai3483]

Yes, it all was so sad to watch the movie and see these testimonies. The saddest one was the death man, I was hoping wishing and praying he got away

[@stringybeanss]

i started researching after watching the series. what happened in real life is even more gruesome than the show portrayed. MULTIPLE people he tried to turn into zombies.

[@zelimircabraja7529]

The series is total flop, unfortunately

[@iloy1218]

@@zelimircabraja7529 not too bad

[@blueeyez3643]

It is insane how many people didn’t report him and even more shocking is how many actually did and nothing was done to stop him. So damn many missed opportunities and so many lives lost bc of poor policing.

[@phillyangel3515]

He was reported by many, but by POC so the police ignored it.

[@ebakay8774]

Exactly poor policing.

[@theethnicist5678]

In ameriKKKa that's known as "white privilege & entitlement". The judge in Jeff Dahmer's decision to release him back in society. The police officer's blatant neglect to heed sincere; plead & cries of BW for that 14 yr old child Jeffrey Dammer murdered. Things haven't change. Likewise judge in Kyle Rittenhouse case scenario. - ONLY IN AMERIKKKA

[@han_js598]

Useless white policemen + jeff is white so..

[@raqui174]

Unfortunately hindsight is 20/20..

[@bandras97]

It's so haunting to think about how these people were so close to suffering the same fate those other unfortunate guys had. Not to mention the parents of those Laotian boys. He'd molested one of their sons and then murdered their other son. What a nightmare.

[@KinkssNCoilss]

@@MrKwodsonikpunk Another one of the brothers gave an interview back in the 90s and said their family never knew what Dahmer looked like so Konerak wouldn’t have known who Dahmer was. I do wonder whether Konerak’s family ever had a talk with the kids in the family about not leaving with strangers after Somsack had been abused. JD used the exact same MO on both brothers and it worked both times.

[@8luvbug]

@@KinkssNCoilss The parents were pimping their kids out. Konerack was arrested for prostitution before

[@DocStewie77]

@@KinkssNCoilss And both escaped. Unfortunately, one of them was hand delivered back to him.

[@melanatedhoneyb2084]

@@MrKwodsonikpunk the Netflix show shows the Lao boy in Dahmer's apt and telling Dahmer he knows who he is...Dahmer asked him so if I'm such a bad guy why are u here? He answered and said their family could really use the money..

[@melanatedhoneyb2084]

@@MrKwodsonikpunk Yea...really sad...Was gonna take one for the team to help out his family.....ESCAPED THE MONSTER....and the police handed him right back to him....SAD!!!!!

[@leahyamazaki5241]

These people are so lucky to be alive…you know this monster is just listening to their testimony wishing he had another chance …

[@marjieestivill]

He was probably salivating when listening to these men’s stories.

[@jamaine2894]

@@aliciafullilove6030 I’m 100% sure she was talking about his then reaction to these testimonies. Not present day!

[@marjieestivill]

@@jamaine2894 Yep, I was looking at him while they were giving their testimony, thinking he was at that moment in court getting to relive those details as they talked. But the way I said it makes it sound like I was talking present day with him looking at his you tube court videos.

[@aishabify]

Just saw the series on Netflix called Dahmer. He was really evil. So scary because he looks so normal and very articulate.

[@LizzyFbaby]

@@divinedispenser8607 regretful enough to keep repeating his actions

[@kellylott9296]

This helps show how very common it is, by both male and female victims, to keep their victimization quiet.

[@BabaYagasWorstNightmare]

The first witness is Somsack Sinthasomphone...I feel so extremely bad for that family. Two members ran into Dahmer, one has permanent trauma and the other one is dead. I wish there was a way to go back in time and beat the sht out of Dahmer to save every single one of his victims.

[@maiden1520]

If you felt that bad you wouldn't have posted his name.. disgusting

[@kurapika8037]

Is it Konerak brother?

[@longjohnn]

@@maiden1520 chill

[@wadewilson8011]

​@@maiden1520 TF does posting their name have anything to do with them feeling bad?? That's the DUMBEST comment on this thread. The victims' names are all public record, genius. 🙄 All it takes is a little research and the names are actually redundant. Grow up!

[@maiden1520]

@@longjohnn 🤡. Show some respect for the victims.

[@hamburgerhelperflick]

The prosecutor could have been a bit more sensitive with the boy. This is not just any witness. It sounds more like a cop interrogating a suspect.

[@sisterslove1154]

I was thinking the same……. the story here is pretty clear……

[@michellemichaut1825]

Exactly, and kind of blaming him for not reporting the incident etc

[@cryingcarrots]

i dont get how you could be comfortable with a naked man mixing drinks

[@zitella1983]

When u watch the trial you understand more and more why victims and families are upset about the movie.. this is traumatic

[@kaitchenel]

I truly feel so bad for this kid to talk about this disturbing memory and he’s only 13 😪and i’m grateful he got away as same to Tracy Edwards and Ronald Flowers the other victims y’all will always be in our hearts y’all are angels prayers to y’all ❤️

[@paulettelittle3369]

He met his match when he met Tracy Edwards who finally got him arrested and the man Mr scarver who murdered him in prison his luck finally ran out s evil wicked beast of a man 👞 he was

[@facepalm9300]

But like why would you go to the creepy dudes house after your brother got abused by him….

[@AliceShinya]

@@facepalm9300 he didnt know it was him, thr series got this wrong, jeffrey nor him did know of each other. The family was not invited to the trial the first time. They didnt know how he looked like

[@facepalm9300]

@@AliceShinya oh okay that makes more sense.

[@alysgrant6732]

It was nice to see that one Defense Attorney was very respectful of the first witness/victim.

[@tailorforeman7082]

“Did you take the second picture after the first” well, by definition I’m gonna go with yes😂

[@katthemaverick7001]

Proof that the police don’t really help Until something horrific happens

[@nganeko]

or white & straight

[@wadewilson8011]

"When seconds count, the police will be there in minutes."

[@laurafedora5385]

They can’t do anything before a crime is committed. The officers arrested Dahmer for assaulting the child. The rest is up to the justice system

[@diedsly]

absolutely right!!I am from Russia and we had a similar situation (the son killed his mother, although there were many calls from neighbors), only it happened not in 1991 but in 2022...Is it really the same in the USA?

[@seanfrance3182]

I hate that after watching the Netflix show I’m now going down this morbid rabbit hole. But it’s just so bizarre how long he was able to get away with all this. No wonder he was killing at the rate he was, he probably felt encouraged by LE and the judges

[@theethnicist5678]

It's called "White privilege & entitlement" in ameriKKKa. It's been around quite some time now. I believe since mid 1700s in Europe. They toss the garbage 🗑 of their species OFF onto true inhabitants of then "Turtle Island" now AmeriKKKa. Brought over by the mass murderering Columbus. Whual'la here we stand 2day!!

[@thegooch7206]

People were so dumb back in those days plus racism played a roll with him not getting caught.

[@shadynepittman6744]

Look like a lot of us riding down there with you.

[@juliagalvez5633]

Me too

[@cocotanya31]

It is so crazy how many people is interested in him. i was 13 14 years old when this happen.

[@syvadcram]

'He was always cooking but he never went shopping' - Neighbor

[@private4720]

😔

[@anthonyphillips1981]

Well damn

[@jp23x]

His neighbor in the series was not his neighbor in real life. She lived in another building.

[@8luvbug]

How would she know that unless she was stalking him? She said that for shock value 🙄

[@nerdherp782]

Spit my drink out

[@mokorangi6380]

Realising that Dahmer lived in the hood, a financially crippled community, he knew exactly who to prey on and what his intentions were, before moving there. High volume of ethnic backgrounds, specifically coloured, as well as the financially decrepit and morally insecure people, who obviously at the drop of a hat, would go home with someone offering them money. Jesus take the wheel

[@donaldewert2332]

I live in Milwaukee and Dahmer's old neighborhood is close to Marquette University. He found his victims in gay bars or downtown, not his neighborhood except the Laotian boys where there were some Asian restaurants.

[@redrumtruecrime]

Throughout the whole Dahmer trial I noticed that not once during the witness testimonies, was the prosecution objected to for "leading" the witnesses. Its not even subtlety done either. He literally almost answers his own questions! Plus he fires them out at speed so the witnesses hardly have chance to recall precisely from the memory of the most traumatic day of their life.

[@The.Dopest.Ethiopian]

FACTS!! LoL

[@G274Me]

True, but it wasn’t important in regards to the proceedings (insanity trial) occurring. Defense isn’t denying guilt, just whether the defendant was insane.

[@horncrownedproductions9675]

Sure, but Jeffrey admitted to everything, so it didn't really matter.

[@HappyPups01]

That definitely wouldn’t fly today in court with the way he’s questioning.

[@redrumtruecrime]

@@HappyPups01 Exactly, plus they don't make stenographer's like they used to either! How the hell that stenographer kept up throughout the trial astounded me. Nobody in this era can compete with half that speed, Judges of today frequently ask that that people talk slower so the transcript is accurate‼️ Everyone involved with the JD trial obviously wanted it over asap and to forget about the horrors that were revealed. Yet here we are today, still referring back to it!

[@jtr9492]

This is the epitome of the "Golden Rule" Never go home with strangers

[@robinkerr1145]

How was any of the Polaroids ever released to the public? Imagine seeing your loved one in that state 😳

[@s_impeccable3872]

So sad 😢

[@shadynepittman6744]

Those cops were dirty and racist. Most victims were non white. So they thought it was just a sick joke

[@Abercrombieindya]

A few have and they are grisly

[@marinafrancesoldman1819]

were they?

[@robinkerr1145]

@@marinafrancesoldman1819 yes there are like 5 of them floating around the Web, I advise against looking as its something you cannot unsee

[@EVNL576]

Jeff had to be very charismatic, charming, good looking and friendly for Salinas to feel comfortable after undressing. A total stranger taking his clothes off in a hotel and he falls sleep.

[@donaldewert2332]

It happens a lot gay or straight especially when high!!

[@Rara-pr9wg]

Just imagine the horror the murder victims experience right before they died...just the fear alone.... This man was an abomination to this world....he was a curse...pure evil😷

[@thehardertheyfall2702]

Shocker; He got saved baptized before he died ❤️🙏🏼💪🏼

[@laurenjordan5470]

Too bad he didn't die before he started killing people

[@NostalgiaNeka]

@Jarebear no they weren't all unconscious and I hope something like this happens to you. The ignorance is just unbelievable from some people. Ridiculous that you would even open your mouth.

[@NostalgiaNeka]

@@thehardertheyfall2702 that doesn't mean anything God knows his heart he's going to hell. That doesn't mean s***. You do all these disgusting things and on your last day you want to try to ask for forgiveness I hope God sees through his heart and I hope that he sees all the black. That doesn't mean anything at all. Shocker that. He's a devil. Little too late for little jeffrey.

[@dontecooper6479]

@Jordan Belfort Christopher Scarver gave him all the help he needed.

[@thevixter82]

Wow I'm so angry this poor kid had to testify with Dahmer in same room.

[@JudithAdams-ud3ue]

He was willing to do so. And rightly so. How else can they prove that Dahmer is guilty?

[@mstate_]

I think some of the survivors were ashamed and didnt really want to report their experience to the police because they would have to admit they were raped & that was just too much 4 them to deal with. This guy is luck to be alive! Smh...

[@EternandaFudge.]

I agree! Especially the two military men

[@CelesteBou]

The 13-year old who spoke here is Konerak's brother and he did report the incident immediately.. that's why Dahmer went to prison in 1988

[@katarinastene9069]

I think his victims were pretty shameless in general.

[@MrzLawrence]

I was 12 when this came out and couldn’t believe what I was hearing on the local news. This man lives around the corner from my grandmother I was horrified. It’s crazy watching it as an adult. The MPD failed miserably and it’s still the same😢

[@wadewilson8011]

I was 15 y/o during this trial, 14 y/o when he was arrested.. I'll never forget it. I grew up in Georgia, and it was still around the clock news coverage for at least a year.

[@utubefreshie]

YIKES. How horrifying! And he was apparently victimizing disadvantaged people of color and most likely got away with it for years because he looked like an unsuspecting white man. What an effin creep!! These days people know better.

[@Khadijah459]

Hi Maya I'm from milwaukee too, I was one of the several inspectors who went there, More like MPD didn't give a damn until Tracy Edwards literally made them follow him back to the apartment

[@paulettelittle3369]

Wow omg scary 😱😱😱

[@paulettelittle3369]

@@Khadijah459 wow 😲😲😲 how scary

[@withgoddess7646]

"The shot was on the bed" Prosecutor : "Was there a bed there in the apt.?" Smh

[@Merbella]

If the case of the 13 year old was taken seriously, Jeff would have been in jail for child molestation, wrongful imprisonment, and endangerment. and hopefully stopped. Even if he got out, the next time would have put him in jail for a long time.

[@mariamejia4969]

The guy was obsessed with cups of coffee

[@vampy8112]

Its shocking that dahmer wasnt locked up for a long time after this boy made his statement.. could have prevented deaths

[@tomw2003]

I feel like there were WAY more victims, Jeffrey was almost an expert at what he was doing which takes time and practice.

[@queenbae8040]

He has no interest in these survival stories...he is completely detached....but when he talks about his work and his actual victims it's a whole different story. Smh

[@Harrizist]

A COWARD… THATS WHY HE GOT WHAT HE DESERVED. A A&& WHOOPING 😂😂😂 AT THAT

[@janetguy2177]

His crazy a$$ was in there sleep. 🥴

[@21macca21]

Sorry what does smh mean ?

[@missArsenal18x]

@@21macca21 shake my head

[@21macca21]

@@missArsenal18x thought it meant so much hate 🤣

[@louieadam251]

The first witness told to the cops what happened to him with Dahmer in the apartment I was curious what cops did and why they did not fully investigated or list Dahmer as predator. In that way no serial killings should have happened. I think there was something wrong in a justice system back then. Sorry for all the victims.

[@wadewilson8011]

The justice system is just as flawed now as it was then. See, you're seeing a lot of the AFTERMATH of things that happened years ago. This, BLM, police brutality, police injustice, racism, anti-homosexualism, and all this other stuff you see on social media, the news, and documentaries are a result of the outrage from people who were treated poorly. There was and still is a different of how different cultures are treated by law enforcement and the judicial system. This is why more Gen Zoomers should do their homework and research before jumping on the bandwagons of people who actually CAUSE these problems.

[@CelesteBou]

The first witness is the older Sinthashomphone brother. Dahmer went to prison for molesting him in 1988. Three years later they let him out and then he went on to kill the younger Sinthasomphone boy.

[@BeccaL2016]

He killed that 13 years old boy’s brother few years later after his 1 year jail time. I feel bad for his lawyers, they had to work for him I am sure they personally didn’t want to

[@BeccaL2016]

@Unknown Mysteries Just because it's their job, usually cases like that always assigned to a newbie lawyer, or small firm of lawyers, they know they'll lose regardless, just a procedure.

[@queenb3568]

@Unknown Mysteries Its bcuz Jeffery paid his lawyers an arm & a leg! 🤣

[@deniseblackburn33]

Heartbreaking

[@antoinettemcdonald5279]

@@queenb3568 didn’t find that fun…… people was robbed of there life’s and love ones was robbed!

[@alyb5666]

Because they're defense attorneys. Not prosecuting attorneys

[@emilykristl]

Honestly sometimes I wonder how his mindset would have changed over the years if Jeffrey was still alive

[@Jack-hb4dm]

I get the escaped victims and the murdered victims families dissatisfaction with the show, especially if it depicts the horrors as accurately as it seems. And the fact that such a loved star playing the role of a man who caused so much physical, mental, and emotional pain. But I think Even Peters did great at playing him in a way that showed people just how sick he was. The one problem I have with the show is the depiction of Tracy Edwards. He clearly stated in court that he was not homosexual in any way, but they still wrote his character to be gay in the show for absolutely no reason at all. There’s nothing wrong with being gay, I’m gay myself. But I think it’s disrespectful to use a person’s traumatic experience, and either not do the research that can be found at the start of a very popular court tape. Or just completely ignore the facts when you’re using the person’s story without permission

[@jennieconnolly9328]

Well put. And honestly thought he was gay until watching these old trial videos. It makes no sense to lie about his orientation.

[@snorkielou4289]

It’s interesting how different Dahmer looks like with mustache, with and w/o glasses. I have rarely seen such a transformation due to such insignificant detail. It’s like three different people.

[@diedsly]

absolutely everything with this man is strange

[@CelesteBou]

It's not the glasses, it's the weight loss

[@natashaprice1910]

How he got away with it for so long and the smell, eating people is just enough to turn my stomach anything else i can handle, evil.

[@epiphaniecleveland5993]

Crazy how he won't even look at the witness. What a coward

[@IdkIdk-gt2ej]

Watch him during Tracy Edwards testimony

[@DianaaaaF]

Random guy inviting you to his home and taking his clothes off and you still having a normal small talk with him and drinking sodas? wtf 😬

[@AnyoneAnywhere82]

Haha exactly! And all the witnesses are like “well at the time he seemed normal”

[@katarinastene9069]

for some people I guess it`s normal)

[@CarriUSA]

I was thinking about how he when he was a kid he had a fixation with torturing and killing animals….warning signs. How many times do we hear of bizarre crazy people torturing and killing animals. I worked with 3 of one of the victims siblings and they were so worried he hadn’t come home. The police really dropped the ball on that case!

[@northerngirl1637]

...and torturing and killing animals should be much more than warning signs. The animals' lives warrant much more attention simply for the heinous crimes that they are and not just how this can signal harm to human beings.

[@redrumtruecrime]

@CarriUSA Dahmer would search the roadsides for road kill at first, he'd disect and clean up the bones by soaking in acid. When road kill became scarce that's when he'd steal dogs and cats in the neighbourhood. His father Lionel was a chemist who introduced Jeff to acid and how different strengths could be used to clear away tissue and organs thus leaving the skeletal remains intact, then what strength would reduce to sludge, bones and all. He encouraged this weird hobby and psychologists said because Jeff was attracted to this macabre obsession during puberty, this was a pivotal point in his life which fused sexual arousal with the feel of visceral matter. That was the sensation Dahmer sought out as an adult and switched it up from animals to young lean, fit physique of teens / men. It seemed to me that Jeff's father wasn't concerned about his sons fascination with all things dead, so long as he was occupied with something. Dahmers mother was on heavy psych meds, and mainly "out of it" especially when she drank on top of them. Lionel was overwhelmed with returning from a day's work then coming home to deal with his wife, feeding the kids etc. This stress of his led to him ignoring his eldest sons need for guidance at a really important stage of his life. He always stood by his son throughout the trial and conviction, whether this was out of guilt, who knows? But he divorced his wife and remarried a woman who had to accept what his son had done and that he supported him, so she accompanied Lionel to prison visits etc. Lionel was convinced Jeff had something genetically abnormal with his brain and strangely enough he fought his exwife in court over ownership of Jeff's brain when he died. The ex wanted to send it to be scientifically tested, possibly displayed ( much like Jeff's animal parts in jars ). His dad won the case. No abnormalities were found in Dahmers autopsy, so I guess he was buried intact, which is more than can be said for his victims.

[@jp23x]

Jeffrey never tortured or killed any animals. Wrong serial killer.

[@MegNotTheStallion]

He didn't actually kill them. He dissected roadkill. That's what makes him different from other killers. He didn't like the killing part but was attracted to organs

[@OwlCapone8630]

59 thumbs up and confusing Eat em' Up Jeff with someone else... shows that folks don't pay attention nor research. Jeff's interest was already dead animals.

[@JudithAdams-ud3ue]

You can see by his body language that he is agitated because of the victims testifying.

[@WishFulfilledState-zy4lm]

To me he just looks bored

[@Gem_Am_I]

Looks like he was actually sleeping

[@nuracaicedo2632]

How can anybody defend this monster...

[@LadyCypher54]

I asked a seasoned defence lawyer this question once. He told me he saw his job of defending monsters as ensuring they received a fair trial.

[@hansb9893]

What kind of fair trial should there ever be for monsters like these? His victims had no fairness, if not, that’d still be alive… !!! People like these deserve a very slow painful death…

[@lizbraze3268]

I don’t know how anyone can defend this monster

[@Mightyducks45]

I agree, everyone’s right to an attorney

[@chinecheremgenevieve8595]

@@LadyCypher54 they were not even scared sitting next to him , I would never

[@miggaveli4911]

Why would the justice system for any crime or murder let a person that is a danger to society give them or think of a second chance?????!!!!! That’s crazy!!!

[@wadewilson8011]

"MURICA!"

[@MissRory662]

Because he white and they can do no wrong

[@EternandaFudge.]

He’s white

[@renellsimmons3358]

cant beleive none of these guys didnt end up kicking his ass

[@Imnottapinata]

They were drugged and threatened with knives.

[@renellsimmons3358]

@@Imnottapinata i know i know, just would of thought with it being so many that one would of slipped threw his fingers got angry n kicked his ass

[@mprce52]

Dahmer wasn't a small guy and he drugged them or attacked them when they didn't suspect it

[@salpemagarian1982]

@@Imnottapinata oh yea I forgot. So true

[@dayzeereyes128]

The last person punched him in the face, escaped, and called the police.

[@socialdistancejusticewarri8533]

"If Jeffrey Dahmer doesn't meet the requirement for insanity, I'd sure hate like hell to run into the person that does." - John Wayne Gacy

[@Theechosenone_]

The nerve of that demon to even judge 🤢🤮

[@gg_nugu]

It's a funny quote but it's a non-argument really, considering the way it's determined whether or not a person was lucid and in control of their actions when a crime took place. "Insanity" in terms of being found not guilty of a crime means that the person had completely lapsed into an episode of psychosis and essentially blacked out.. and it's very hard to prove. It's just funny how JWG was like "well I'm not as bad as THAT guy!"

[@michellemoseley4028]

(black) Pot calling the kettle black SMFH GACY WAS just as much a monster as DAHMER WAS!

[@ivysmith2794]

He was demon possessed. Evil man

[@africanyvette2908]

Because science look into neurotransmitters and the functions, his was probably normal, therefore, he could just have an extreme fetish.

[@kelbel443]

When the cops entered into his apartment after the one victim got away with handcuffs on. In the movie, there is blood all over the bed, the apartment smells horrific and the cops see blood on the bed, but still say, Where are the keys to the handcuff keys? Never mention the blood all over the bed. He should have been arrested so many times. So sad, that so many people are affected by this horrible person!

[@skittlesb8237]

thats exactly what ive been saying

[@DJ-kk3co]

That’s why it’s called a movie 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️they never seen the blood in real life when they went in there

[@blkcoverboy1049]

Yea in real life they didn’t see the blood! At that moment they were concerned about finding the key to the handcuffs! Then they opened a drawer and saw pictures of dead people and that moment is what set off the chain of events and his arrest! The movie is not how it LITERALLY happened

[@lizanderson2921]

He never had actual keys to the handcuffs because he got the handcuffs back after cutting his victims hands off

[@Sebastian-km9qx]

He probably thought that blood was from bleeding a$$holes after getting smashed 😂

[@Dargyful]

The police knew of him since 1987 ! And nothing was done ?!!!

[@isthatkaan]

Amerikkka

[@joanbaczek2575]

He got a year in jail for what he did to one teen

[@brendaechols5929]

I remember this case. It was everywhere. One of the worst serial killer's at the time. I'd say he still is the worst of all time. He's gone now, but I think its necessary. He tortured people and what he did to their bodies. My God!

[@blackalien6873]

I don't think he ever tortured anyone, except for the 14 year old, who surely knew his fate. They were usually unconscious when they were being murdered.

[@Trezzlewok]

@@blackalien6873 idc how much drugs are in your system you will wake if your body is being sawed smh keep in mind this guy was not using surgeon tools. Dude was a butcher.

[@ctb_trevballa6876]

Read about Samuel little

[@ivysmith2794]

Yes! I'm so happy he got taken out in jail

[@ivysmith2794]

@@blackalien6873 stop talking out the deepest part of your slack ahz

[@jp23x]

"Did you take the second photograph after first"

[@osagiezogie]

🤣🤣🤣

[@AmberDash_360]

LMFAOOOO

[@BlackBerryDiamond1]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@youknownada2326]

She's a well educated solicitor

[@SalmaSarab-kk5su]

Funny 🤣😂

[@chelseaspreadthelove770]

I can’t believe his defence team 😂 I know he has to have someone but deary me imagine getting a case and it’s him as your client,, hell no

[@deniseblackburn33]

Agreed

[@tyjo2495]

They weren't defending him as not guilty. They knew he was guilty they were trying to put him in a mental hospital so he could get the psychological help he needed. Everyone deserves a fair trial

[@shonb989]

I was born and raised in Milwaukee, and when all this was going on. I was probably no more then 5-6 yrs old. But it as has ALWAYS stuck with me. Before documentaries etc. We went to church with one of the sister of his victims and I remember my mom showing her testimony when she started yelling at Jefferey smdh.

[@CarriUSA]

I worked with one of the victim’s families, as many family members worked for the same company. His sister came to me and was worried he hadn’t come home the night before and had no money with him. I felt so bad later because I told her not to worry he’s probably with a friend. Monsters are real.

[@Neophema]

28:00 The false feeling of security being a man offers you. I'm glad he and his friend were lucky enough to escape.

[@emartinez7733]

Dahmers lawyer trying to make the victim feel bad for not reporting it is such a low argument. They had nothing to work with with such a admittedly guilty client.

[@8luvbug]

Even if he did report it nothing would have been done just like the other cases.

[@Jd18122]

Jeez, don’t blame her. She did just her job

[@rebeccamireles31]

This always makes me cry because it's very descriptive as well as like I said just very real close to home and curfew

[@yc5141]

My heart goes out to the two guys that testified at the end. And they are BEYOND lucky. But WHY didn’t they report it to police!!??? Soo many lives could have been saved 😢

[@nancyjones6780]

Because they knew it was useless. They knew the Milwaukee police department would not help , listen to or believe them!

[@reneegarland3575]

He was the devil! Evil

[@Jd18122]

*sick

[@shaquille7414]

There were a total of 6 survivors and including his friend probably 7 🤦🏾‍♂️ he was reported mutiple times to the police but wasn’t caught until they found photos after Tracy edwards escaped

[@Ally-StaffyLover]

So young for this to have happened I hope they are at peace such a terrible horrible thing god bless them. ❤

[@janetguy2177]

13 years old. Omg😢

[@bobbymarsh1]

How’s he at peace when he killed his brother

[@sammymila67]

It was always be ptsd from this situation being as though the same person who did that to him ended up killing his brother

[@Ally-StaffyLover]

@@sammymila67 OMG Samantha I never knew that 😞 How even more shocking is that I'm lost for words yes of course pstd or cpstd for the rest of this poor man's life. I do hope he has found some happiness in his life after such devastating loss of losing his brother and nearly his own life by the same monster. 💔

[@Ally-StaffyLover]

@@bobbymarsh1 I did not know about his brother so did not mean to disrespect I was referring to this kid and an older black man who escaped that I had watched on another video when he took the stand. Of course it makes it so much more horrendous for this poor kid at the time now a man. 😞

[@Virus-xm7qc]

I'm WOWED!.... these young men went through SO MUCH!!! DAHMER is an ABOMINATION!!!!!!!!

[@c.erine78]

*was

[@Virus-xm7qc]

@@c.erine78 INDEED!!!👍

[@jeannemonaghan7314]

A MONSTER.

[@marinafrancesoldman1819]

but why would you stay in the hotel room when somebody casually takes his clothes off??

[@marinafrancesoldman1819]

@@cheechicana 😆

[@kellyforrester21]

Jeffery would have loved all of this stuff being talked about in court, and him reliving all these ordeals.

[@hhhh6665]

actually he confessed when he was arrested because he wanted to avoid going to court and he wanted to go straight to prison. he didn’t wear his glasses in court so he wouldn’t have to make eye contact with anyone.

[@Confidential619]

That's what I was thinking too but maybe h is right cause also whenever he leaves out the court room he leaves in rushed look like hes embarrassed. He probably likes reminding himself about it but doesn't like that people know about it.

[@Foxfire8787]

​@@hhhh6665 So?

[@GM1988]

I understood that there was one survivor who escaped from the apartment, how did it happen that there were two other victims who gave testimony?

[@tthoma12]

These 2 victims encountered Jeffrey years earlier before Jeffrey moved to that apartment

[@ravenswood118]

Sounds like he just drugged and molested them without intention to kill. Perhaps that is how he got his start.

[@facepalm9300]

The first victim in this testimony is the brother of the Laotian boy Konerak. Jeffrey drugged him, took photos and fondled him and he left his apartment and went home. His brother Konerak would later go with Dahmer to his apartment to take photos just like his brother did, but he didn’t make it out.

[@bluesquirrel3919]

Sounds like the Milwaukee cops were assisting Dahmer. Maybe Dahmer was paying the cops, because they were extremely helpful to him.

[@shavondakelly2631]

White privilege

[@kaybizzlebee1127]

No he was just white.

[@cammac2753]

@@kaybizzlebee1127 💯💯

[@leximari]

He didn’t have money to pay cops off

[@cathymacdonald5074]

The police were prejudiced against gay people, so, they diid not care to help the CHILD whom they believed to be gay that they found wandering in the street. Did I hear that they thought it was funny? •As well, those cops must not be very intelligent to have missed all that was on clear display ....in front of their faces. •Ugly souls, to send him back to his mutilation, his death. Ugly.

[@watchingtyranny8294]

Sounds like the witness is ok for men to get naked and lay on a bed and it doesn’t even phase him. What?

[@8luvbug]

He also thought drugging people was "normal"

[@sammymila67]

I think he was a little off.

[@lornahudson4454]

Unpopular opinion, but I didn't believe the second witness, not that it matters but his story changed and he didn't know his close friends surname.

[@LyraReid]

@@lornahudson4454 I believe him but I think he lied about why they went with jeffrey. Jeffrey lured men with money if they let him perform sexual acts on them. He probably didn't want to admit that because it would make him look bad and gay.

[@charliebae4920]

The first witness was Konerak's older brother right? and the other one was Tracy Edit: the second one was Michael Salinas. How many witnesses do they have? I wish the 2 military men he abused during his time in the army took the stand too.

[@VincentPresley]

Yeah, that's Somsack. My brother was friends with both of them and also knew Curtis. It was several Milwaukee School Of The Arts kids.

[@jermainereed9143]

@@VincentPresley We all went to Pulaski.

[@kurapika8037]

Not his name is Keison?

[@VincentPresley]

@@kurapika8037 Friends called him Somsack. His brother was known to his friends as Khan. Curtis was known to his friends as Demitri.

[@ms.lisamurphy269]

I struggle with some of the issues around Dahmer's minor victims. All three were lured away by Dahmer ...but why were these boys out and about in the suspect places in the middle of the night. The first victim, James Doxtator,was 13 years old loitering on a corner where a cluster of gay bars were. The next minor who is testifying here,..testifies he met Dahmer outside a bar at closing time ..he was 15...it's a miracle he wasn't killed by Dahmer, but where are the parents of these boys?? Why are they roaming the streets basically soliciting in the middle of the night. And for the love of God, you would think the parents of the brother who was molested, would have been hyper vigilant about knowing where and what their children were doing, endorsing curfews and the like. Yet Dahmer inexplicably was able to lure Konerak Symthensaphone, this boys brother, away yet again from the corner in front of a bar late at night..and I say lure, not abduct, because like the 2 previous boys, he simply flashed some cash and he went to his death. Im definitely not victim shaming these poor children, I' just think there was some lax parenting in all three cases, especially the last on.

[@CelesteBou]

Actually Konerak met Dahmer in the afternoon, not during the night. It wasn't a suspect place, it was a mall. Netflix depicted this wrong. JD drugged the kid during the afternoon, then he fell asleep/unconscious, then he woke up at night and escaped

[@ms.lisamurphy269]

@@CelesteBou there are so many published accounts of this story. In the movie "DAHMER" from 2001, it did depict that JD met him in a shopping store...but still, his brother had already been sexually assaulted, even if the parents or Konerak didn't know what he looked like, they all were aware of what could happen going anywhere with a stranger

[@debbY100]

Dahmer lived in a crackhead building in a crackhead neighborhood. These kids were likely from horrible homes with alcoholic or drug addicted parents who were struggling for money food you name it. Dahmer lived in the ghetto and dwelled in the seedy underbelly of the city. He reaped his victims from the depths of depravity.

[@mirkoneumann13]

I can't understand that adult people just go along with a stranger. Such behavior is already preached to childrenI can't understand that adult people just go along with a stranger. Such behavior is already preached to children!

[@Kenthetic]

Back in these days in those part of town people were very trusting and family. It’s a good and bad things that things have changed now

[@Seashellsbytheseashore21]

They were offered money.

[@druiz127]

Common sense is not so common in some people

[@generallouverture7351]

This got to be The most scary thing ever... these young men were extremely lucky it didn't went any further than rape...my God!!!!It almost is as if I am there with them and can see everything including the devil...

[@chrissyallange1994]

That apartment building must have been terrible! The building manager said the guy who was stinking up the building with multiple dead bodies has the cleanest and neatest apartment in his opinion! Can you imagine what the tenants were thinking hearing this and knowing what came out of that apartment 😮

[@stephaniemillington6455]

What I can't comprehend is when someone is this guilty, why even bother w court? What @ direct death penalty; DONE.

[@Seashellsbytheseashore21]

No death penalty in Wisconsin. They must come up with a sentence.

[@joanbaczek2575]

The trail was to prove Jeff was sane while committing his crimes

[@MichaelColeman2]

These guys almost go murdered....wow don't let your guard down with acquaintances..

[@edwardslim3235]

Is there an interview with his neighbor who kept saying it smelled bad and called the police?

[@starffruit]

that poor little john doe. he would’ve only been 16 or 17 at the time of this trial. to be sexually assaulted by a monster like dahmer at such a young age… what a brave young man, to come out and say his piece in front of the very monster that assaulted him. it pains me, it disgusts me that dahmer murdered a different teenager only a year older than him some time later, because of the neglect of the police and the american justice system. i hope that john doe is doing well today, and that Konerak Sinthasomphone is resting in peace.

[@r2dree288]

"John Doe" is sadly the brother of "the different teenager" aka. Konerak Sinthasomphone. It's heartbreaking. Had to deal with Dahmer before and he had to deal with him after for the murder of his brother..

[@aliciaroberts7416]

Netflix brought me here.

[@Dargyful]

His defence lawyer seems very nervous. Her cross examination makes no sense. I can’t imagine anyone wanting to represent that evil being

[@LovingRiv]

Most defense lawyers get assigned someone. Most don’t get to choose

[@mokorangi6380]

He was her first case, she was only new to the profession so she naturally was very nervous. There is an interview floating around on KZbin of her speaking about how nervous she was and how little she knew, before taking on the task of representing him.

[@sandrahughes8182]

He can't even look at the first victim on the stand he was only 13 years old and he fully well knew that absolutely ludicrous

[@8luvbug]

@That's Nonsense he looked at Tracy a couple of times

[@diedsly]

i think the boys had such a problem with money in the family that they decided to make money this way. And he 'll take full advantage of it ...

[@janinecaramanus1392]

I feel sorry for lawyers who defend these animals. They really must have nightmares.

[@bramlintrent1145]

They definitely have a thankless job.

[@meeknhurz24]

Thankfully his lawyers never tried to say he wasn't guilty, they were there basically trying to say he was not sane

[@rickihosein]

Did they have too...I know it's a right to be represented, but can a lawyer be forced to do so?

[@meeknhurz24]

He has to have representation, so he would have had a lawyer one way or another

[@Misswiskers4]

These acts are not those if an animal. Animals act out of protection and hunger. Granted , this person was eating victims , but not for an empty stomach. This man was desperately I'll and it led to extremely depraved results for many of his victims.

[@Angelavhd]

With these questions he went through the trauma again and again

[@Lalafair24]

He was practicing with those two white boys..

[@OurLittrellMemories]

The first witness is a minor right? Is that why the cameras are not showing the witness? Is he there physically? I know this was very traumatic for a young person to have to sit in front of that awful man

[@CelesteBou]

The first witness is the brother of the 14-year-old Lao boy killed by Dahmer...

[@iAmNothingness]

That we don't take abuse towards men serious, we all know. Sadly when it's gay men it was and still it aboslutely laughed at. Sick back then, sick today.

[@marcussmith4913]

I could barely watch the nextflix series it was sick. The only reason I got threw 3 episodes was because I liked the actor from american horror stories. Took some balls for him to sign up for this role though. One of the most sickening humans to walk the earth.

[@Sebastian-km9qx]

Took him balls to make millions of dollars ? 😂 okaaaaaaaaay then

[@NostalgiaNeka]

@@Sebastian-km9qx sad that you can make millions off someone's death so easily. It's sick and twisted and it's disgusting it's everything every sicko once dreamed to visually see. it's bigger than Dumber is this is some white people's pleasure whoever made this damn sick reenactment for no reason. You have a small brain on this matter. Anyway I'm not watching that bs*. Casually stumble across the real stories and victims so I'm not interested in that bull crap. It's totally disrespectful and if I was any kin I would sue if I cared enough. People are so sick... this is just horrific and near oct..Oct...

[@cyntar556]

There was absolutely no defense for this monster and I'm just watching this to see exactly what the defenses case was to show any kind of innocence . I'd love to see what his defense attorneys have to say in retrospect regarding this case, does anyone know of any videos???

[@foxgloved1]

too sick for me

[@littleMissXeOBA]

Dalmer is our society’s cautionary tale. Look at the errors in judgement from neighbors, landlords, family, a judge & police. Remember, you are the same. Don’t be so sure of your ability to diagnose, “read”, and cancel. You actually put yourself in danger from your lack of curiosity. Look around you. What are you missing?

[@THollowaySmith22]

Hard to believe so many boys just went home with a guy they met and when JD just got naked they stayed and continued watching TV and conversing like that’s normal😳.

[@megzzzz1077]

I’m having a hard time believing the second witness

[@laurafedora5385]

Not trying to victim blame, but I’m shocked at how many people just willing go to some strangers apartment and take a drink that they fixed for them

[@druiz127]

Common sense is not so common in some people

[@m.ahmed99]

you’re right but it’s a completely different time, different culture, society was different. 50-100$ was a lot of money in one day back then

[@mcc208]

The 80’s 90’s were different

[@youknownada2326]

The first lad speaking luckily escaped this monster but his younger brother, who the police returned to Jeffrey's home after finding the underage boy drugged up outside Jeffrey's property, was killed by Jeffrey

[@donaldewert2332]

This is the case that is the most disturbing. Dahmer convinced the cops he & kid were lovers!!! The kid was a Kid, underage!!!!

[@jefolson6989]

The interviews with Dahmer and his father are heartbreaking. Jeffrey knew he was sick/evil, his father blamed himself. He did his best to support his son. If you are creeped out ( as I was) it helped to watch him speak. He was a very sick human, but different than his crimes would suggest. It stopped my nightmares about these crimes.

[@familyfirst3746]

Stop him & the grandmother knew he was a killer they ignored it like the police.

[@Seashellsbytheseashore21]

@@familyfirst3746 they didn’t know he was killing people, that’s just utter nonsense.

[@thisboiisit]

oh your heart breaks he's is sick.... a nd your remorse makes you sick too

[@jefolson6989]

@@thisboiisit hope you don't have children. This man's son was sick. Unlike you and most people, he didn't stop being his father.

[@EVNL576]

Jury verdict says he’s the same as everyone else, nope, Jeff was insane. Going around town raping young men, he had to be very charming and friendly.

[@a.blanco7680]

So my phone just knows im watching the docu on Netflix & all these videos pop up?? Ohk

[@FernandoRodriguez-ds5ri]

Big brother 👀

[@mandymoore5774]

For that final man Tracy to not turn on his heel IMMEDIATELY after he smelled what he smelled & high tail it outa there leaves me flabbergasted! Idk what a dead body smells like, I do know what a dead mouse smells like tho, & it’s stomach turning, so I can’t even imagine how badly a dead body smells like never mind what MULTIPLE dead bodies smell like in different stages of decomposition. & the idea of having to come home to that smell is just beyond disturbing, having ur home ur sanctuary under those conditions is just tragic.

[@andromedastar4900]

Yeah, I've never understood why Tracy didn't just leave right away that night. Dahmer couldn't have stopped him if he'd just backed and left as soon as Dahmer opened the door. Dahmer was really out of it that night though...and yeah you cannot tell me he didn't have a serious mental illness when his apartment smelled like that, he'd lost his job, was about to get evicted, and spend the last dollars in his bank account on that 50-gallon barrel...those are not the actions of a rational mind at all. He was seriously just an extremely ill, sad and pathetic man.

[@joanbaczek2575]

The chemicals Jeff was using on the bodies confused peoples senses

[@evekim8710]

I already knew about the dhamer case but since watching the series I've felt it affecting me I can't sleep without nightmares now it's more scary because it's real ! Please pray for me y'all

[@angeliqueasher1913]

pretty scary to think that it's highly likely there is another dahmer still doing his thing uncaught...the worlds so big there is most likely more than we know going on. we cant let these things affect us long after they have happened. we can only learn that we are lucky to be here not to take risks with strangers and know the world is evil...stay safe.

[@sweetneverbitter6109]

Watch a comedy before going to bed to take your mind off of it

[@AmberDash_360]

Seek therapy you must have suppressed something that’s happened to you in the past I watch this and true crime all the time even fall asleep on it and yes I do have a bad dream or so because it’s playing in the background and becomes part of the dream and that’s that nothing lingering or anything because I have No suppressed trauma. Faith without works is DEAD go find a therapist.

[@belindamcdaniel8681]

@@AmberDash_360 It's because you have no empathy. If you are born after 2000 you probably just never had it.A lot of you don't. It's preparation for something about to come with future generations where you just find feeling for other human beings of no value. Or having much emotion at all. And a sure sign of having no empathy is wondering why other people have it. Ironically, kind of like JD.

[@AmberDash_360]

@@belindamcdaniel8681 Well I was born in the 80s so there goes that theory and I have empathy even for Jeffrey and his family the victims and theirs as well. Suggesting someone seeks help if I hear extreme hypersensitivity to a movie doesn’t mean I lack empathy lol. Quite the opposite actually.

[@sweetneverbitter6109]

How can anyone defend him?

[@sweetneverbitter6109]

@Barney McGrew yes I know but it has to be a difficult task for a defense attorney in this type of scenario.

[@ColtraneAndRain]

No different than doctors and nurses taking care of rapist, pedophiles and murderers. We don't like it but it's part of the job. Sometimes public defenders do get innocent clients.

[@sweetneverbitter6109]

@@ColtraneAndRain understood

[@samoneh8849]

I feel like this a big story n they would b in history good or bad