WI v. Jeffrey Dahmer (1992): Crime Scene Investigators Testify

[@CourtTV]

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[@David-lg2dv]

These cops were biased, lazy and incompetent and should have been fired.

[@urmom-jp7gn]

exactly!!!! they failed to do their main job - protect the people.

[@sb416]

They still are to this day

[@sissyhippie9799]

It was sad all the way around Cops never cared. …. And if you ware lower then Thy you ware trash back then …. Fasts I lived there I use too be arond this Area growing up.. it’s ware I use to have to walk to go home form high school !! Then by the Time they caught him I was cleaning his Grandma’s house !! Yes he would be in yhe basement .. no I wouldn’t clean his stuff !! We always stayed upstairs !! But this dude was whacked!! Evil from the beginning

[@imhereforitall9218]

They will fight it tooth and nail but racism played a huge part in how Dahmer was able to go on a killing spree virtually in plain sight. I know it to be true because I lived it and was almost one of his victims. The racism from the Milwaukee Police Dept was so thick you can cut it with a knife. I was too young to understand racism although I was in my late teens my parents shielded me from a lot of those evils in life or at least they tried so it took me a while to catch and understand racsim like Black friends who went to public school. I am Black as well but enjoyed parts of life that a lot of Black did not get the opportunity back then. I did not know or understand until I got older that my life was somewhat sheltered and for good cause.

[@J33-k3s]

People used to not give AF about gay people. In many people's eyes, gays were less than and therefore not worth the time and effort that would be put into someone else's case. It was the same way with the AIDS crisis. No one wanted to help. And many people thought gays deserved to die, and that the virus was God's punishment to them. Then, if you add gay and being black on top of that, then police really didnt care as much. Even though it was the 90s, it was still very stigmatized to be gay.

[@bensheaffer1590]

I lived in Milwaukee at the time. I still remember the immediate outrage over the police response and conduct. The total abandonment of duty when they handed Konerak back to Dahmer was heartbreaking and disgusting.

[@Lilmickcrocodiledundee0001]

Exactly!! I have family in Milwaukee and my aunt lived in the apartments next door I believe at this time. They really screwed up

[@izzyhayes1554]

How are their officers not still being harassed for this??

[@isacece1334]

AND the 2 officers received an award....WTF!?

[@bensheaffer1590]

@@isacece1334 yep. Disgusting.

[@kirbyimage1]

Neither won awards. However one of them did go on to become the president of the police union. So, still very bad stuff.

[@GloriaSol]

Imagine being a cop, dropping the ball and letting go one of the worst serial killers in history then being promoted to lieutenant 🤣🤦🏼‍♀️ incompetence to the max!

[@lynsey4224]

Right! Whoever promoted these idiots was just as insane as Dahmer lol.

[@FragranceGame85]

Thats america for you

[@timothygarner477]

That's usually how it works in most fields

[@GloriaSol]

@@FragranceGame85 No kidding!

[@GloriaSol]

@@timothygarner477 you know, you’re so right.

[@kennis.2603]

I know we all have fascination with true crime and the stories but I truly feel horrible for the families having to relive 😢

[@mleekahh]

Welll they dont have to watch. No ones putting a gun to their head to watch. Im glad this series was made. Truly glad. Im not into thrillers or true crime videos at all, but this series is showing me a lot how the justice system failed , and how deep someones mind can go to deep ruin. It also warns a lot of ppl to not trust anyone off the bat. I really dont get why ppl are upset this is made. Its different if this was on TV all over commercials etc etc on subway ads, but this series is just on netflix, and you dont have to watch it if it makes you uncomfortable.

[@louisefisher6805]

Made without their permission or input. How would you feel if it was your family member?

[@nadiajamesroper4947]

I think its important we are made aware of true evil in the world and not all this panto smoke and mirrors we are Spoon fed by the media the majority if the time , I understand it can be painful and upsetting for familes to to have horrific family members murders brought up , and I do sympathise with them but on the other hand I do think its important we know the world.for what it really is , we are bringing our children up in this scary place and we should be made aware of the dangers., also the police shouldn't be allowed to get away with the failings of victims , if these documentaries were not made we would all be under the assumption the police did all they could when they let those men ,boys and familes down enormously it breaks my heart to think what they all.went through but it's made me more Aware rest their souls in peace 🙏

[@bilmariee9056]

@@mleekahh there are literally memes and videos being shared across all platforms, I haven’t even seen the show but I know what happens in each episode because clips are shared.

[@ashleycountiss720]

I watched the series on Netflix. I thought to myself several times how horrible the families must feel to have someone portray their loved ones and relive it all over again.

[@isisatlantis3168]

Had the judge did his job in the 1988 case and hit Dahmer with the max sentence, he could have saved the lives of those men/boys. Dahmer felt invisible after he was release from prison and his killings amplified.

[@caterinascarcella]

Exactly thought he’d give him a chance, and we all know what that caused.

[@athenavan2242]

And the probation officer, she slacked and refused to do any home visits. But I think Dahmer had her terrified to come to his apartment by telling her about a man found murder that lived there. I wonder if he had anything to do that murder?

[@8luvbug]

Daddy's money also help Jeffrey stay out of jail for long

[@EternandaFudge.]

Why would they NOT talk to the grandmother?!? Why did they NOT find out how he got it the hospital!?!? These officers do not deserve to sleep at night

[@JaneDoe-ob9dr]

She had dementia.

[@Freetown00]

Jeffrey put Flowers on a bus after his grandmother told him to do so, and a stranger took Flowers to the hospital. I’m just saying this by memory.

[@jamiemiesler322]

Can’t imagine being Dalmer’s attorneys & having to sit next to such evil all day everyday for this trial. Yuck! 🤮

[@samantharoberts6471]

My thought exactly 💯

[@revekat2053]

Lawyers are the devil’s advocates…

[@elizabethgrassi9444]

Why are you airing old news.....

[@nanettematthews2264]

All I could imagine is the stench of death coming from his person...

[@revekat2053]

@@elizabethgrassi9444 the same reason Jurassic park was in theaters this past summer.

[@Shay-tf8sp]

Why did they believe Jeffrey and NOT the guy who took the time to come to the police straight out of the hospital and took him to the house where he knew he was drugged and robbed? Terrible

[@urmom-jp7gn]

agreed!!! but it’s all because systemic racism. cops love playing the game believe the white guy

[@skyjuiceification]

Racism

[@Lainieb329]

@@skyjuiceification exactly.

[@MoniqueD305]

Cause he was black.

[@darlingdeb7010]

Because it's an extremely tough crime to prove without evidence. You can't just believe everything you hear.

[@AdopteeOutOftheFog]

What a crazy time this was. Netflix did such a great job capturing the story of Dahmer. It’s so sad how many men he got away with killing.

[@Giselle_Glam594]

They're glorifying his evil

[@mursahxiirow1501]

I understand story telling, but NetFlix took unnecessary license. The story is tragic and horrific. The opening news scene wasn't true, how Tracy and Jeff met and that entire interaction wasn't anything like Tracy described it in court. Jeff apparently had cichilds not fighting fish. Jeff was already a tragic character. No need for embellishment. I will say I think they did a good job making him human. It seems like no one ever saw him and he was furniture. Having read some further information he was likely on the spectrum as well. Having seen more than one depiction of his story, he seemed a really sad fellow. Regardless who the culprit is, I think you have to show them as accurate as possible. He really seemed to be an injured soul, unlike Gacey or Bundy per se. They both relished the attack and violence. Jeff seems to just got caught up in his own fantasy. When you are alone, you turn inward and self destruction is often the out come. I can not imagine what any of these people went through. He seemed to have no concept of his actions actually affecting other people-at least in the big picture. I wonder how hard this was for his brother...he must be quite resilient. The guilt his parents experienced must have been off the charts as well.

[@osopetty1761]

@@mursahxiirow1501 well cichlids fish do fight and also eat each other because I had some

[@Sweetnclean]

@@Giselle_Glam594 stfu no they are not…. Have you even seen it?

[@chrysamere7277]

I think having these depictions of the horrific acts of serials and thier victims give us insight as to why and how these damaged souls happen. I don't think Netflix glorified anything. If anything the victims were depicted very well.

[@alexandramuraru4125]

Police men that took the child back are Also criminals..why they are not in prison as well.

[@blkcoverboy1049]

I saw pictures of the young man that Dahmer took of him the night he was found wandering in the neighborhood and to be honest I would have thought he was 18 or older if I didn’t know any better! He didn’t look like a 14 year old baby faced kid. Now me saying that does NOT excuse the incompetence of the police. But just going by looks I can see how they believed he was older. That’s why checking proper identification is CRITICAL! you can’t go by what you see! The police should have known that

[@xIIIQueenOfSwordsIIIx]

God these cops were ridiculously incompetent.

[@uuuultra]

typical

[@umakemerandy3669]

Such are the cops of every decade past

[@snackbar1127]

These Police officers were incompetent. They really deserved to be fired.

[@uuuultra]

they didn't

[@umakemerandy3669]

Such are the cops of every decade past

[@ULOVEKYLE]

i dont care what got you into true crime.

[@uuuultra]

you should

[@Foxie635]

The Asian boys' family used to attend my dad's church. Their sister died of cancer. This family went through a lot. Then the nerve of my coworker) defending one of the cops because she is the ex-inlaw. She was married to his loser brother. The cops didn't check the boy's ID nor Dahmer's. They would have found that Dahmer was a sex offender (went to jail for drugging the 14 yr. old boy's brother). The cop Gabrish even got. promoted to captain. Dahmer got away with a lot as a white male. He was even stopped with a body in his car during his first kill and the cop allowed him to return home (Dahmer was on his way to bury the body in the woods) because Dahmer lied and the cop said Dahmer reminded him of his own son. The cop could have been a hero but chose to be lazy. The 3 cops were lazy and backed Dahmer to help him get away because they didn't do their jobs (kind of like what is going on now). If no one believed in white privilege and the good old white boy's club, believe it now. One of the cops even became president of the police association. Oh, my god. Show less

[@YoutubeJailhouseWine]

You're a lying racist.

[@kevonrcguy2205]

Wow u can’t make this up

[@Sosozanyway]

Bad police work and doesn't equal white privilege.

[@caterinascarcella]

Amazes me how the land lord didn’t also listen in the beginning to the complaints of the fowl smells and weird sounds way sooner.

[@midneis]

The cops who stopped him with body parts in the car gave him field sobriety tests and he passed. He wasn’t drunk that night, they ticketed him for driving left of center or something. The “you’re a good boy with life ahead of you” bs was made up for the show. It’s true that they didn’t look into the garbage bags, tho, just asked him about it.

[@carvalone3076]

This is what you call old school incompetence!

[@uuuultra]

good thing they aren't incompetent any more 😉

[@dyanalynn6698]

Wow the quality of this video and it’s audio is excellent… much better than more recent trials I’ve watched!!

[@Ohheck846]

Gosh you are right! It’s better than today

[@romerjusu3804]

It's a movie.

[@plus1everyday63]

yup was thinking the exact thing

[@genlongtsang1093]

90s

[@caterinascarcella]

Can’t tell it’s 30 years old

[@Janinaneven]

These cops who let Konerak go back to Dahmer went on to gain even higher positions within the police department and only retired between 2017 and 2020… They are still alive to this day, getting to enjoy retirement, being praised for being cops on a daily basis…

[@tyeclark9635]

😢

[@kristenv1432]

That is incorrect. They were fired

[@massagechik1]

@@kristenv1432 they were initially fired for 60 days WITH PAY and then rehired with a banquet and benefits!!! Hate cops!!!

[@ArtericaCharnay]

@@kristenv1432 it’s not incorrect they were brought back on the force because a judge thought firing them was too harsh of a punishment they indeed have recently retired

[@DjBolt11]

Hopefully the series in Netflix helps bring actual justice, better late than never. And with enough signatures and outpour of the people, it can happen. And the system will be obligated to lol back in to it

[@golds9967]

Interesting when people say he should have been caught when the boy escaped his apartment, when in reality, he had many close calls that he could of and should of been caught in. Starting with his first murder, he had the cut up body in a garbage bag in his back seat at night when he was pulled over and the police officer even asked what was on the bag. Let him go. Then Mr. Flowers bringing the police to his house and the police believing Dahmer over the well-educated black man with no criminal record, THEN the boy escaping his apartment. Multiple police officers and agencies failed these boys and men. The bias they held is clear as day.

[@Misswiskers4]

I agree with you, but want to note, you need to use the word have rather than of in your sentence structure.

[@onion6foot]

I had my life destroyed by a psychopath. He found a LOT of helpers in the legal system. He was and is a professional liar and sadist. Lots of those in the legal ststem. Could be psychopathy, rather than racism. I have seen it and suffered it and I will NEVER get over it. Evil incarnate.

[@SamanthaKMidnightslip]

"could have and should have"

[@EerieProps]

@@Misswiskers4 LMAO

[@tygill7401]

@@EerieProps so funny 🙄

[@lewisallen3232]

How he got away with the rotting flesh smells in his apartment and grandma’s house, I do not know. Surely that’s worth a thorough search warrant, no matter what his excuses were.

[@revekat2053]

People were stupid before the internet came along to rescue them.

[@woodyssnake8562]

Same with that Ed Gein, he had people living in his house, with 30 bodies under the house in the crawl space. They all lived there with the smell

[@brendaechols5929]

I couldn't understand how they are cops but don't know what a dead body smells like it? They have to be idiots!

[@SweetDreamz0223]

I belive it all depends where you live also. I live in NYC, if you complain to the authorities about a foul odor ( smelling like rotten bodies) the authorities are going to investigate that foul smell. Years ago my elderly neighbor died in his apartment & it was in the summer. The stench was horrible. After calling the police the investigated & found out what apartment the smell was coming from They broke into the apartment & realized the man had been dead in his apartment for days, with the windows open. Other cities the authorities aren't that concerned & diligent about finding out thing like that!!!

[@CallMehXiLe]

Search warrent? This was 30+ years ago hahahaha

[@natenasaa2573]

This case really showed how his privilege and the incompetence of the police allowed him to keep killing wow smh

[@jaeeluv]

W Hite privilege

[@natenasaa2573]

@@jaeeluv absolutely

[@johannawigg6921]

Oh you can bet if Dahmer had been the one reporting on Mr Flowers under the same circumstances it would have been a very different response from the police !!

[@imhereforitall9218]

I lived through it and when he was able to take that little naked Asian kid who was bleeding back into this apt underscored how privelege and homopphobic and racism all played a role in this.

[@chloeanderson311]

Couldn't agree more!

[@elinag274]

Why is everyone saying what got them into true crime 💀

[@jehan8860]

To fill up the empty space.

[@teenelder5118]

LMFLALAO

[@prettyfacenayyyy]

Right who gives a damn 😂

[@simplelifedays3692]

It's an ego thing. Everyone has to be the first and most knowledgeable. Kinda interesting considering... 😉

[@Blue_SeaSmoke]

@@simplelifedays3692 more of a herd sheep thing. People love to follow other people

[@darrinpatterson2142]

Cop: No... No... No.... wait, did you ask me if I was an incompetent idiot at this time?? Emphatically YES!!!!

[@MsRedd_86]

Let’s be REAL here for once… These officers weren’t concerned cuz it had to do wit ppl that lived a different lifestyle. These officers got way too many calls concerning the smells and strange behavior coming from Jeff’s apartment. I’m sure most of those officers didn’t WANT to do anything about gay men coming up missing, just outta the blue! POOF💨💨💨 AND FOR YEARS!!! WE ALL have heard ppl of the law say a dead body has a distinct smell. They went to his apartment numerous times. U mean to tell me they “ALL OF A SUDDEN” couldn’t smell a NUMBER of dead bodies???? AND he lived in a neighborhood wit a high drug and criminal rates. So y’all KNO the law wuz around. Look, these ppl didn’t care!!! Why is it these serial killers can kill so many, right under the laws noses. But they don’t get caught for years? Cuz they mostly kill ppl that live on the “Fringes of society”, so to speak. THEY DIDN’T CARE!!!

[@bigmona2741]

FACTS! A decomposing body smells like nothing else. That ONE thing let’s me know that they knew he was hoarding dead bodies.

[@terrypace2134]

@@bigmona2741 the guy that got away that testified said there was a oder but didn't know what it was so maybe most people aren't going to think he has dead bodies in his apt..

[@terrypace2134]

And don't dare say police let them do it, that's stupid as hell. Until you work as a officer you have no idea, you're just making dumb assumptions. But that's today's society, make the cops to be the bad guy and the criminals out to be the victims.

[@jimhurst82]

More emotional bs to fit your self victimization. Not all cops have been around decomposing bodies, I have and it is a very distinct smell but also smells like a decomposing animal. Most serial killers are very smart, charismatic and act normal so they don’t rouse too much suspicion. Not every this because of race as much as you’d like it to be.

[@SocialAlexNYC]

One of the Konerak officers said he thought the smell might've been 💩 and he might've subsequently assumed that the 💩 smell was due to sex. As such they weren't gonna linger there.... The Netflix movie tried to allude to that when JD said sex gets "fiery" and "You how it is." Then the cop's comment to JD was "I certainly don't know. I don't know what you guys do... Now we have to shower..." 🚿 It's episode 2. Unsure if that was the true chat 3 decades ago but it's what the writers put into the script. The 💩 part was true and can be found in the trial files. It's in the files officially as "excrement", not 💩 of course.

[@mimiwins1]

It’s so strange the young Laotian boy was sent back with Dahner by officers only to be killed. There were 2 months from that day until Daumier was caught. I’m sure there was a report of a missing Laotian boy why didn’t the police put two and two together? Plus - supposedly it was the boys brother who put dahner on probation for taking pics of him underaged.

[@belindamcdaniel8681]

That never made any sense to me either. The truth is there was strong racism against Laotions, and other people that came over from that part of Asia in the Midwest at that time. They weren't treated well at all. A lot of them were sent to live in bad neighborhoods they knew nothing about by government programs. Many of them didn't know English so they couldn't get hired easily. People thought they would eat your cat or dog because of their culture. They just were resented because of ignorance. I remember a Buddhist temple where I lived being burned down that Laotians went to. Nobody was reprimanded for it. They really were treated bad.

[@8luvbug]

Cause Jeffrey gave them a different name for the boy

[@SweetJeopardy]

This happened pre-Amber alert, so a minor could go missing for a while without triggering a report. In a lot of cases the police would also minimize parents' concerns, telling them that maybe the kid had run away or was out partying and being rebellious (especially with teenagers) and having them wait and see if they returned on their own, before organizing a search. In this case though the lack of a widespread emergency alert system was absolutely no excuse cause -missing report or not - Dahmer was currently on parole for SAing a minor (the boy's brother) plus had a previous conviction for indecent exposure, all of which would've been evident if the cops had just bothered to run his name. It doesn't matter if the boy could talk or not, or if they could ID him or not cause it was Dahmer himself who was in the system, they'd at least have to take him in for questioning. Fact is they couldn't even be bothered to ask for a simple name check cause they didn't care about anybody in this situation (working class, POC, gay). This was a terrible judgment call, but it went beyond the bigotry of those two officers since, after watching this, there's obviously a systemic issue affecting the entire department enabling this. It's clear it wasn't an isolated, "bad apples" incident, it was common and there was no accountability.

[@jasmines6768]

I never thought about how the police didn't connect the dots even after the same boy they found naked and unconscious went missing. This seems absurd I can't make any sense of it.

[@the_anxious_autistic]

This judge is even getting mad about all these readings and this case. He's like the hell is going on here 🤢

[@lauramclay9954]

I never seen so many people openly admit to complete and utter incompetence...shocking off the scale

[@YourUncleBenny251]

I can tell that a lot of people commenting here about how things were at the time of this case, weren’t actually around to know what the world was like at that time.

[@stephaniemurria5534]

I was 28 vacationing in Chicago at the time this story broke. That's all people talked about in the restaurants and hotels. They couldn't keep enough newspapers on the street. This case will go down as one of the ultimate crimes against humanity for my generation.

[@familyfirst3746]

It’s still the same way sir

[@LadyCypher54]

Dahmer looks completely uninterested in the proceedings. As if he's letting the adults sort it out.

[@sierrabuzz]

I love watching court and it's cool to see how different lawyers and judges practice and the relation to the time period. Nerding out over here

[@butterflykisses4u]

same lol I love it!

[@marydavis7978]

So do i!

[@TheSauceIsMine]

It's cool to watch it on youtube but not if you are there live, getting paid 10 dollars to be a juror.

[@JacobC479]

It makes me so mad that they fired the cops who sent Konerak back into his apartment but then they were reinstated with back pay by a judge. They should have never lived without hearing about their screw up every day.

[@noflowers3759]

Everyone thinking their comment on what got them into true crime matters, is what got me out of true crime.

[@hellsbells2028]

Any idea why people are saying this??

[@alexandraguia2068]

For real 😂😂😂

[@Foxie635]

Never trust a stranger. Old saying but will never be out of style.

[@chubbspeterson6161]

Everyone’s comments about getting into true crime is what got me into true crime

[@sharongreenberg9906]

😂😂😂

[@geico1975]

Hell, I'm thinking about getting into true crime:)

[@johnread7404]

The fact you are talking about other people getting you into true crime, makes me wonder whether I should get out of true crime, because I'm already into true crime?? Should I get into false crime instead?

[@johnnynobuddy1]

1.Manson/Watson 2.Bundy 3.Dahmer 4.Cunanan

[@jaeeluv]

Lol

[@MultiLiverpool1]

God forbid someone would go and speak to his grandmother

[@dxd8663]

Its amazing how Dahmer looked so different in the trial than he did a year later in those TV interviews. I know the stress/relief/weight gain played a role but he genuinely looks like a completely different person in most photos/videos. Bundy was also a human chameleon in this respect...bizarre.

[@Sasha-lg1ln]

Agreed

[@ravenswood118]

he just gained and lost weight

[@mbrasseau]

Peanut butter syrup sandwiches served in jail tend to put the pounds on

[@beard6160]

They know they're sick and they study what normal behaves like. They learn to wear a mask.

[@taritabonita22]

Yes, bizarre is right it’s always puzzled me!

[@londonk69]

They should of fired the whole police department for being careless and none protective of these men or the citizens of that State, just horrible!!!

[@scottcharney1091]

should *have

[@Pktattooss]

Or maybe you should research more and learn about the system.

[@londonk69]

@@scottcharney1091 👏🏾👏🏾

[@londonk69]

@@Pktattooss naw I'll leave that up to you ma'am sir

[@scottcharney1091]

@@londonk69 Also, you are completely right!

[@pstrass6353]

One of my high school classmates was approached by Jeff Dahmer in 1989. We graduated in 1992 just after this trial. This brings back creepy memories. 😳

[@Noelia1582]

Your classmate was lucky

[@Foxfire8787]

BS

[@Noelia1582]

@@Foxfire8787 I mean he was lucky because he didnt go to his apartment

[@screechingonions2365]

Ur lying. U and every other person in the comments has also supposedly seen Dahmer

[@Foxfire8787]

@@Noelia1582 I'm talking to op. Everyone claims they knew or know someone who knew Dahmer and I'm not buying it.

[@treasuretreereynolds1764]

For many years ( before I was a psyche R.N.,) I had wondered what made Dahmer commit these heinous crimes. At that time there didn’t seem to be a reason, no emotional, physical, psychological abuse. The new Netflix series did a good job re: some possible reasons. It was insightful, frightening without too much gore. Acting was great. He got away with sooo much that I was astounded. Rest In Peace to the victims, kudos to the neighbor who kept calling, and my heart goes out to the victims families. Oh, hats off to the man who got away because he was the one who ultimately saved many lives. Forgive me if I forgot his name.

[@Breeze59PHB]

Tracy Edwards

[@imhereforitall9218]

I was almost one of his victims and I am sure others unknowingly escaped his grasp as well.

[@treasuretreereynolds1764]

@@Breeze59PHB ~ Yes, thank you.

[@treasuretreereynolds1764]

@@imhereforitall9218 ~ That’s terrible! Glad you weren’t!

[@96tomlinson]

The only explanation he deserves is he is pure evil. There’s no justifiable and casual link to produce such a monster.

[@karen81986]

Evan definitely deserves a Oscar for his portrayal of Dahmar on Netflix series

[@vincew4297]

Oscars are for films not TV series. Emmys are for Television

[@victoriagraham6470]

@@vincew4297 Does it really matter

[@vincew4297]

@@victoriagraham6470 I was giving them clarity, get a clue…

[@Lilmickcrocodiledundee0001]

How many episodes are there? Or is it still going?? I haven't checked it out yet, guessing it's pretty good...

[@karen81986]

@@vincew4297 whatever. Emmy it is. Lol

[@rhinacortorreal]

Poor Tracy edwards he never been able to recover from this past.

[@wolfe6220]

I wonder if he was still homeless after getting out of prison?

[@romerjusu3804]

They met in a Gay bar but he's not Gay ? He was involved with many crimes before and after his " ordeal " with Jeffrey.

[@arjeanfampulme7305]

I've read he pushed someone off the bridge

[@joes3844]

Tracy Edwards clams hes not gay but he was at a gay bar,went to a strange man’s house to take naked pictures with him and watch movies

[@HTrina16]

I thought in the testimony they met in the mall

[@lizzyespo]

Police officers failed in this

[@meltorme7356]

Why do they take the victim’s back to the place/person that did this to them?

[@karayocum8847]

Probably to see if they're serious enough about their claim to go through with it, or intimidate them to retract their complaint.

[@deeso9726]

Because they are incompetent and don’t know how to do there job along with not believing a black man. Facts

[@Hotwingzlover84]

@@karayocum8847 no... Because the 2 Women who were trying to help the victim were Black and the Police believe Dahmer over the Girls

[@Remhad]

Imagine walking in an apartment where there’s a dead body in the next room, not caring, and returning a 14yo boy back to his captor AT THE SAME TIME.

[@LisaMarie51968]

Cops didn’t care, they were sloppy and unbothered! Shame on them! so many could have been saved!

[@jimhurst82]

Easy to be a Monday morning quarterback

[@Pktattooss]

2 officers. Not all of them. Such hyperbole.

[@kimberlybrown5843]

So many missed opportunities 😪. May all the 17 victims RIP 🙏

[@Ghoststories93]

One thing that’s very important…you DO NOT drink anything that a stranger has made for you unless it’s an unopen beer or beverage

[@pipa8471]

This has to be the worst court lay out ever

[@DynamicUnoTea]

Who gets wasted off of bailey's Irish cream and coffee. That should have rang alarm bells and supported the statement that he had been drugged.

[@Oliver-le1us]

Being a former hospice nurse the smell of death is horrible- one body . How the grandmothers house didn’t gag you when you walked in amazes me! I feel so sorry for the people In the apt bldg having to deal with that smell . RIP to the victims

[@indasmith86]

Dang, how long does it take for the coroners to get to your facility? I work at Hospice as well and have never smelled decomp.😳

[@MIABREACTS]

@@indasmith86 your comment really got me I’m curious too

[@harryzack4115]

@@indasmith86 look at her name

[@stephaniemurria5534]

They had family gatherings there.

[@andreasmith5396]

Dahmer probably sprayed something to cover the smell

[@EternandaFudge.]

I can’t understand why Dahmer didn’t use all that manipulation and charm to just make some friends and find a boyfriend….

[@Foxfire8787]

He did not want a boyfriend. He wanted a sex slave and he was a necrophiliac. 🤦🤦🤦

[@sabrinamendez6223]

Obviously he wasn't aware of his charm, probably didn't cross his mind about being great at manipulation.

[@EternandaFudge.]

@@sabrinamendez6223 when he was able to lie to the cops and get away with it , it Did cross his mind that’s how he got good at killing…. Obviously

[@belindam7304]

I wondered that too. He like didn't even try ..

[@stephaniemurria5534]

He was insane.

[@keaksworld]

The judge was like I’m tired of hearing this.😂

[@JoeMama-tl4tr]

My uncle Tati says he worked with Jeff at Ambrosia Chocolate in the early 90’s like 90 or 91. He said that everyone knew to heat up their food early before Dahmer showed up because when Jeff heated up his lunch, it would stink up the place. I always felt my uncle embellished but after watching the Netflix show it’s seems more likely he was telling the truth

[@jeomemo]

That's disgusting, everyone was heating up their food in that same microwave?

[@EternandaFudge.]

To think he was probably reheating body part sandwiches… disgusting POS

[@jesusdaughter4299]

Shane on his coworkers for not demanding a citizens arrest... the dude looks like a creep... then he's heating up penus at work!?!?

[@frightfright3843]

Only after you watched the Netflix show? You know you could have watched numerous documentaries before. I call BS on your story.

[@lianna4686]

That turned my stomach! That would be horrifying to learn

[@dlindy9143]

You know someone is a psychopath when they drink Baileys straight out of the bottle.

[@riveramedina8101]

🤢

[@creamteamp2566]

Bailey’s isn’t that bad

[@B355Y]

It's like 15% alcohol.

[@Chaana_Yahawadah]

Waaaait! I love Bailey’s Straight out the bottle,..might I add 🥴😂

[@saralouise7199]

😂😂😂😂

[@Manbunmen65]

Impeccable feather hair cuts in this trial.

[@CrystalDimensions5]

Lol! I noticed this as well.

[@Shatatata]

If the cops did a sincere job he could have been arrested sooner 😢

[@johannawigg6921]

Baileys Irish cream leaving someone that out of it the next day... please.. the police were very willing to believe Dahmer over Mr Flowers !!! The pale privilege reeks more than Dahmers apartment!!!

[@woowee4452]

White people should get more privilege

[@jimhurst82]

“Pale privilege” ugh, so lame. EVIDENCE! Gotta have EVIDENCE! Flowers admitted to drinking w Dahmer. The cops had no evidence and can’t prove Dahmer drugged Flowers, he could have taken something before hand. Not saying he did just saying you can’t prove Dahmer drugged him. Monday morning quarterbacking is easy to do when you know all the details.

[@BabyMaharaja0]

jeffrey was well spoken and deceiving. don't be a racist

[@LyraReid]

@@BabyMaharaja0 it's not racist it's facts. Jeffrey got away with murder and child molestation because of homophobia and racism. You can deny it all you want but that doesn't change facts

[@garywaters1672]

Why didn't he get locked up for 20 years in 1988 the judicial system needs worked on

[@uuuultra]

fix it

[@smassey6848]

Well we can thank the inmate(s) who took care of this P.O.S. The cops had one job and failed. Smh.

[@marthacatherinemorenomoren4135]

I was born in Ladysmith Wisconsin a very small town I still watch some of the stuff that comes up on KZbin about Dahmer and it just blows my mind those poor families even his family his father and his stepmother I can't even imagine what they go through I just pray all the time for peace for those families that they have some kind of peace as they lay down their head at night and it's only through Jesus Christ, Joshua hamashiach Jesus Christ the Messiah the father God and the flesh

[@fashunpuss6279]

First guy believed Dahmer over Flowers.

[@jimhurst82]

Gotta have evidence to arrest and Flowers said they were drinking together. Dahmer was convincing and there was no evidence of Flowers being drugged by Dahmer. He was, but you can’t prove that without evidence.

[@G274Me]

It’s shocking when you think about how many times dahmer got away when his crimes were right under their nose. But then again Wisconsin is full of drunks.

[@Khadijah459]

Damn, can't disagree with you..we used to be the beer capital of USA

[@Pktattooss]

Such an ignorant comment. Thank goodness you are not in law enforcement. 2 officers are partially responsible. 2, of the whole department.

[@LyraReid]

@@Pktattooss way more than 2 actually

[@OTremblay]

But the smell. I mean decomposing corpses… and the police didn’t feel like that was a little strange when they got the 14 yo boy back in there? They should’ve been in jail, right next to him! I can only imagine the scent coming out of there when he opened his door. In all the cases I’ve seen, this might be the most insane thing. He literally got away with the smell of death. And how in hell did it not stain his clothes?!

[@Hunterbidensdesktop]

He never got away though. He was definitely set up in prison.

[@holylandfan3275]

What I appreciate are how the prosecutors are quick on the draw, no pauses, and straight to the point. No, ‘um’, ‘um’, ‘um’. The ums drive me CRAZY when watching some.

[@justyna365]

Don’t watch Amber Heard’s attorney 😂

[@JG-bi3he]

If Jeffry was black he would have been arrested and sent to prison for good when he did that to the boy.

[@Felis-Concolor]

Why are the most prolific serial killers black? Samuel Little a black man, killed over 90 people. How come he wasn’t caught? He killed 6x as many people than Dahmer.

[@kaylamanor]

Apparently, being a cop in the 90’s was just being paid for doing a whole lot of nothing. Wait….

[@Seashellsbytheseashore21]

You really think all cops do nothing? Really?

[@lerp5555]

@@Seashellsbytheseashore21 Some people are beyond help.

[@kaylamanor]

@@Seashellsbytheseashore21 You’re really gonna come on this specific story of cops handing a child with a hole drilled in his head back to a serial killer to further your weird blue lives matter fetish???

[@mamabear1324]

Ted Bundy got me into true crime. Dahmer was the second

[@monicapickens4408]

JOHN WALSH FROM AMERICA MOST WANTED GOT ME ONTO TRUE CRIME

[@twinstarr1438]

I can see the irritation in dahmer, knowing he'll neverbe able to continue his evil acts of satisfaction

[@gabriellebernard198]

As with Gacy , Dahmer gor away with it for so long because he dealt with marginal young me. Some were gay some were hustlers some were closeted. But they were all human.

[@liveyourbestsoftlife5705]

At least Gacy's officers smelled dead bodies when they went in his house

[@stephaniemurria5534]

All facts spoken here.

[@carolynemerson6576]

I remember hearing about this in year 7. And then I remember hearing he was killed in prison a few years later. This peaked my interest in true crime.

[@lerp5555]

I’m sorry but you couldn’t have heard this on year 7. It happened 1985 years after that.

[@TruthTeller20242]

In year 7??? Who the heck talks like that?

[@zeden2924]

Carolyn Emerson - piqued not peaked but I get your point.

[@tygill7401]

@@TruthTeller20242 they were in 7th grade dumb ass

[@lesleighbutler8623]

@@TruthTeller20242 we do in the uk!

[@C.Church]

4:25 Tell me this lawyer doesn't look like two kids in a man suit and a fake mustache.

[@Stopthisrightnow560]

I literally had to do a double take when he came on. Lmfao

[@uuuultra]

this deserves more likes

[@C.Church]

@@uuuultra lmao, thanks

[@mynamisstar1751]

What his name?

[@chocobeachboy1]

These cops contributed to the madness!!!

[@samantharoberts6471]

I love how he's looking right at Jeff while answering at times.

[@redrumtruecrime]

The stenographers apparatus must have combusted 🔥 due to the aggressive speed of dialogue‼️‼️

[@jennp2701]

Those eye glasses the guys wore back then are just creepy looking. Also seems like that was the generation of serial killers. Very strange.

[@SweetJeopardy]

Tell that to all those hipsters who just a couple of years ago were dying to wear these fugly type of glasses "ironically", LOL. They looked creepy 30 years ago and they still look creepy now. Thankfully that trend is finally dying down and we can stop lying to ourselves. There's definitely been a decline in serial killers since the 90s, no one can really explain why, one of the main theories is that as DNA analysis started to rise councidentally these type of killings started to drop, meaning that people are probably caught sooner or sometimes for lesser offenses, but nobody knows for sure. That era ended just to make way for the current generation of mass shooters, so people still suck...

[@mandisimone7191]

Oriental??!!! I haven’t heard that term in ages! Smh

[@renellsimmons3358]

this was ages ago.

[@woowee4452]

Yeah Oriental, the ones with the slitty eyes

[@uniqwiab8679]

Well it is old 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@MissVictoryRolls1940]

@@woowee4452 what???

[@mintberryy]

@@woowee4452 lmao

[@tyronefoster194]

Must've been tough as a Defense Attorney to defend a person you knew was guilty. However due process states that every person has a right to counsel. This process was only to determine how much time he'll get and the money the Defense will get because of the obvious

[@jasmines6768]

His attorney seemed very sympathetic to him IMO in the documentary. She said she felt like his sister or mother 🙄 like that judge in the sexual assault case. He looked like them so they related to him more

[@cyndidaniel7822]

Smdh...can't even imagine what his victims went thru!! 😢

[@stevennorris7181]

he drugged them to sleep first.

[@sabilsadiara4722]

@@stevennorris7181 so??

[@KnottsBear-yTalesPreserved]

One of the most horrific cases that got me interested in True Crime. Then again, my Mother has always been a fan of that stuff and maybe that too has a part in me being interested in this kinda crazy world we live in.

[@thedamnedrose6665]

My mum reading murder case books got me into true crime when I was about 8 (definately not images for children) read ALOT of cases, but Dahmer always comes back to me.

[@shanes.1724]

Oh cry me a river

[@andreseh87]

@@shanes.1724what? 😂 that’s a weird non sequitor

[@handsdown5x]

Netflix got the story so accurate and the actors all look alike the real victims .

[@courtney7027]

It wasn't exactly accurate. It was so stupid. Jeff appeared to be totally normal to everyone he met, just like a lot of other psychopaths. But in the show they make Jeff seem overly weird and awkward. Just dumb.

[@handsdown5x]

@@courtney7027 well I said the story and actors not personality’s

[@handsdown5x]

@@surgedeb ok man doesn’t have to be perfect 🤦🏻‍♂️ what do they supposed to do ? Find their clone or something.?

[@KJ_-mg2np]

Look wise, they absolutely did a phenomenal job with a few of the main characters for sure! Acting wise, they were all superb, especially Evan Peters (Jeffrey Dahmer) and Richard Jenkins (Lionel Dahmer “Dad”). The Dad in particular was an absolute clone to the real Lionel Dahmer! It looks like Evan is a much smaller/shorter man than Jeffrey Dahmer, but they did a great job in creating the illusion that he was taller with the camera angles. Edited to say that after looking it up, I guess they are only one inch difference in height. Hmmm 🤔 I’m not really sure then, I guess Evan is just smaller framed overall. I just know that he appears smaller than Jeffrey somehow. Either way, he played the part to a T!!

[@mishelly6972]

@@handsdown5x ikr 😂

[@Lilmickcrocodiledundee0001]

They should have had him the night that boy escaped and the woman who got the police!! They should have noticed something was up!! It was Soo obvious!!

[@xIIIQueenOfSwordsIIIx]

How many times before that night did she call the cops about the yelling and the smell though? Quite a few…

[@lllBigTlll]

@@xIIIQueenOfSwordsIIIx and they ain’t never do a damn thing about it than smh

[@rspsadver]

That’s because she wasn’t real, and there wasn’t any calls made of hearing smells or screams, absolutely no evidence at all.

[@Lilmickcrocodiledundee0001]

Talking about the time that Asian boy escaped and found that younger lady out on the street, she called the cops and Jeff came down there and said it was his gay lover and he was drunk, had blood on his underwear and cop just let them go

[@lllBigTlll]

@@rspsadver what da hell you talking about lmaoo

[@shannettechow7096]

The person who made the Dahmer series on Netflix, must of went and thoroughly watched all of these videos over him and executed the series perfectly.

[@CarolineL_22]

P no p

[@YoMama9021]

They used transcripts from the trial itself.

[@liveyourbestsoftlife5705]

But didn't perfectly compensate any of the families

[@kaylamanor]

Ryan Murphy. He’s really really good. Watch his other shows.

[@timharris7913]

Nahhh because they missed some key things and some things on the Netflix serious were inaccurate

[@tylerneckbeard4294]

I don't get how he was able to deceive. He wasn't that bright. His GPA in high school was like a 2.0 and at Ohio State was around 0.43 or something.

[@kylebrent637]

The judge seemed already decided on a decision all through this deliberation. Lol. He kept asking the stenographer to repeat everything the prosecutors were asking like he wasn’t listening to anything lol.

[@MtlGirl]

If I was a family member of the victims I'd be angry @ the Netflix series. If they wanted to open this horrific case the least they could have done was TELL THE VICTIMS STORIES. Not fabricated garbage, the true events were horrific enough. I'm so tired of these monsters being glorified on TV with movies and series. What about the VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES????

[@cutevirgo1996]

Well sadly they don’t have to be contacted because this was a story about Dahmer and they do not own the rights to his story. In a perfect world they would have known or have been given a portion of the profits but in reality they don’t. However I’m glad the show did give more insight to people who knew a bare minimum about this case and instead of focusing on gore they went for a more emotional take on the matter and why it went on for as long as it did. The show opened a better line of topics about police incompetence and flat out ignorance/racism/homophobia. Many of us know who Dahmer is but never in this way, and it’s good to know.

[@tinabillingham]

👏👏

[@omagicc5194]

this gotta be the worst police department in history

[@helenharper4311]

I got into true crime when I heard about Ted Bundy at the age of 17. I also never walk alone without my keys in between my figures because of Ted Bundy.

[@martinkeating8227]

Good idea. Ted always used handcuffs.

[@helenharper4311]

@@martinkeating8227 I see what you did there 😉

[@sharonunfiltered]

Fascinating case on so many levels.

[@jenmarie2030]

Holy shite that lawyer looks like he's 15 years old.

[@lindanicola]

But sharp

[@maknumaalam2601]

Which one?

[@rhinno1969]

Jeff invited his mom over for dinner one night but she did nothing but complain about his friends, so he said, "jeez mom, try the vegetables then"

[@imhereforitall9218]

And to think you thought up this dumb joke with your whole brain?

[@harttohart5630]

I see what you did but there 😂😂😂

[@docnasty74]

@@harttohart5630 Max is a way better cook for Mr. and Mrs. H.

[@sandking8631]

Good one

[@saralouise7199]

😂😂😂😂💀💀

[@uniquascaper7052]

All these calls and complaints against .. yea.. a white dude by black or asian guys. THAT is why Dahmer got away with SO much for SO long. And no one can try to tell me differently.

[@DrinkingArt]

For a lieutenant you're pretty fuzzy with the details. Your lack of self accountability is so obvious it probably blinds you in the mirror. Good job lieutenant you dismissed poor black victims and automatically believed a middle class white guy. You are in the history books sir for your bravery, integrity and competence! I completely trust you with my life and the lives of my family!

[@tomw2003]

ALL races experience belittlement, prejudice, and even racism. No person, race, ethnicity, or otherwise is immune! You sound like a basic ignorant social justice warrior!

[@joeglue]

The victims of both the underage rape discussed and the young man who were returned to Dahmer by police were both Asian. Please at least read the details of the case before commenting out of respect for the victims.

[@DrinkingArt]

@@joeglue "Eleven victims were African American, and most murders were committed on Milwaukee's predominantly Black Northside." Statistic for you. I'm disrespecting the victims? Lol gaslighting fail. Spread your joyless comments elsewhere. You should fact-check all comments on all Dahmer vids, cause people worldwide should read the case files before commenting.

[@uniqwiab8679]

At 5:03, the judge is over it.

[@jenmarie2030]

Dang I didn't even notice. Looks like he fell asleep.

[@Khadijah459]

The police who entered 213 initally got disability for what they saw but denied the stenographer disability who had to write all that madness down she was denied in the aftermath it gave her severe mental issues she just resigned

[@AlisonBryen]

About 15 years ago, I worked as an audio-typist for a Legal Services department for a local authority. I used to type documents for the child protection lawyers. One of the lawyers used to deliberately include graphic details of his cases he worked on on his recordings, which I would then have to type up. His reason for doing that was because he had to listen to the graphic accounts in court, his staff should have to hear it too. 🤷‍♀️

[@kimcelestine5521]

That prosecutor went in boyyyyy ✔️💯

[@BabyGhost4L]

I feel so bad for that 14year old

[@Paarthurnaxdova]

As horrible as this story is, Jeffrey’s behavior is not “ monstrous”. There are TONS of people walking this earth that lack empathy for others. Jeffrey was a hunter of humans that kept trophies just like people that hunt deer. Those people don’t feel empathy for the deer. It’s just an object for food.

[@COBirdNerd]

Are you off your rocker

[@RYANMARSH091992]

@@COBirdNerd clearly he is as nuts as dahmer

[@Paarthurnaxdova]

@@RYANMARSH091992 are you saying hunting deer and keeping their heads as a trophy is hugely different then what this killer did? What he did is sick and creepy at best. But it’s not much different from hunting/stalking and eating animals for fun.

[@Paarthurnaxdova]

@@COBirdNerd maybe, but I’m just keeping it real. Hunting deer for fun isn’t much different. Hunters feel no empathy for the deer. They view it as an optional food choice. They also see hunting and killing as a fun game. Hunters also keep the heads of the deer they killed and mount them on walls as trophies.

[@mirraclemoses3740]

Comparing animals to humans is crazy lmaoo. No HUMAN should be able to hunt and EAT another human. Animals are here bc they are food. Literally a Whole Food chain. HUMANS aren’t meant to be eaten by other HUMANS. Simple. You can’t compare the two.

[@ninasimone727]

POLICE OFFICERS WERE SORRY IN THIS CASE!! SAYING THAT THEY WERE PLAYING GAY GAMES

[@MaGarcia2000]

Unsolved mysteries with Robert Stack got me into True Crime

[@angelmoore2453]

Same, that music used to scare the hell outta me as a kid, but I couldn't stop watching.

[@rickihosein]

I'm sooo intrigued that he got lawyers to actually represent him..they sat there with a monster!...I just couldn't do it!

[@darlingdeb7010]

It's an American right, as it should be, to be defended.

[@imhereforitall9218]

That was a father daughter team. They were very prominent lawyers, or at least the dad was the time. Atty Boyle. I believe they did it pro bono. I met the daughter when I was working at the local mall. She came in the store during the trial. What my co-workers did not know at the time and still do not is I was almost one of Dahmer's victims. I did not know either until I saw his face on the news. I still live in Milwaukee. That area where he did most of his killing has faced some harsh times.

[@rickihosein]

@@imhereforitall9218 ...omg!!!...they did it for free...so, they were trying to get him off?...that's really sad....the good news in all this is that you were not a victim of his sick and twisted mind and spirit!!!...you probably think about that sometimes and get shivers...I would!!!

[@rickihosein]

@@darlingdeb7010 ...I know!!!...but especially when victims are found in freezers in his apt, there would be no way I'd be representing him...he shouldn't have been able to find any lawyer willing to work with him...he should have represented himself...no one can force a lawyer to represent a monster...there was physical evidence in his apt, i.e bodies of him being a monster

[@user-rz2tp2it1c]

@@imhereforitall9218 i once was almost the victim of santa claus