Wiccan Series? Avengers Doomsday Wanda Scarlet Witch? Vision Disney Plus - BREAKDOWN

[@ngin98]

not marvel baiting me into accepting rdj as doom by putting him next to wanda GET AWAY FROM HER 😂😭

[@StaminaMC]

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[@ngin98]

@@StaminaMCliteral spuidward meme

[@gatomon2002]

RDJ you are cool, I like you but STAY AWAY from Wanda.

[@diddo9338]

I’ll throw up if they romanticize them 🤢

[@mk6rfc1]

i kinda what them to be romantic just so it'll piss off a certain crowd

[@Estudiovinaya]

All these breadcrumbs in jac's shows give them a rewatchability factor , everything is so intricate and elaborated you want to make sure you don't miss anything. Also generates long term conversations for watchers because we keep finding meaning and details

[@Yehoshua66]

Anywhere Wanda arises, it will be a blessed day.

[@WRDend]

You mean the Scarlet Witch?

[@Yehoshua66]

Wanda is the Scarlet Witch, so yes.

[@cruzanassassin]

​@@WRDendand I'll be there!

[@maisaleiofi4900]

@@Yehoshua66yes please ill take a cameo in vision for now but doomsday please let her be a main character

[@mildhoof]

Give Jac the keys to the WHOLE Wandaverse! Love how layered Agatha all along was. Looking forward to whatever comes next, but struggling to see how Vision quest could manage the narrative threads of the Maximoff twins, Agatha, Vision, Wanda, Ultron AND Virginia though. Hoping these characters get fleshed out further in other projects in the next couple of years too.

[@daeity1]

jac NEEDS to be on vision quest because it really needs to be respected and still in line with what wandavision and agatha has made.

[@mildhoof]

@@daeity1 It definitely feels strange that they gave the showrunner role over to the Star Trek guy, but unless Kevin’s a total moron I’d expect it only happened because Wanda and Jac are both going to be better utilised in a different project, whether that’s the Scarlet witch movie or a Wiccan/YA/Agatha show. I hope she’s been brought on as an advisor for the handling of Wanda’s story in Doomsday too. Especially with the inclusion of Ultron in Vision quest, maybe they’re taking on heady concepts about AI and its threat to humanity, which might not leave space for the themes of family, grief, magic and superheroes-in-suburbia explored in AAA and Wandavision.

[@daeity1]

@@mildhoof this.

[@Deadpool-n2t2x]

@@mildhoof it just sames random to pick Star Trek guy for that job

[@mohammadali-zz5uo]

The last time I was this quick, adam had all of his ribs

[@freebrandyornot]

I want a Midnight Sons movie with Jennifer Kale tbh

[@niemand9362]

Too many group movies and she is a E character with powers too similar of other more popular ones. If they make a Midnight Suns movie, I hope they make it with better characters. Too many characters means bigger budget. She should be just a supporting character in smaler projects.

[@freebrandyornot]

@niemand9362 maybe, but agatha was also an e-level character with powers too similar to the main character of WandaVision and still got her own show that did quite well. besides, Jen was part of the Midnight Sons at various points in her life, and she's one of the few characters who actually exist in the MCU, and her cousin is Johnny Blaze, so getting her on the team could also introduce him. Jen should 100% be part of the team if they ever make that movie.

[@mildhoof]

Definitely interested to see what happens next with Jennifer. It seemed like she and Rio didn’t get a resolution in Agatha all along, and I suspect it’s because they have more plans for both characters outside of this corner of the MCU. That said, I felt like Sasheer was a great actress in the more comedic moments, but I didn’t always find her so convincing as a dramatic actress. Midnight Sons is probably a good few years away, but I can see that side working well as a distinct and mostly separate part of the MCU when the main focus becomes the X-Men after secret wars.

[@donyoung333]

Make it so - also want to see her with her crown and in the pink battle armor

[@anonymousgirl4605]

I like Wanda and Wiccan! However, I'd also *really* like to see more of Agatha and Rio, too.

[@donyoung333]

Who doesnt ? 😉

[@mygetawayart]

fans want Kit Connor to be Teddy not only because he's very comfortable with Joe Locke, not only because he acted out essentially the same exact dynamic that's expected for Billy and Teddy but because he also looks the part so well. I think Hulkling will be a character where his looks will be almost just as important as his chemistry with Wiccan. If they can't get Kit Connor (or he just doesn't wanna do it), then let's get someone that Looks like Kit Connor. I'm sorry to the actor they got to play Billy's boyfriend in the show, but i'd prefer someone who looks like Teddy does in the comics.

[@simpleplanfan011]

The fact that Elizabeth Olsen has vocalized wanting to come back makes the next steps crystal clear. Wanda needs to be at the center of the next storyline. With so many original actors leaving, it’s time to bring Elizabeth back in.

[@JulioCesarCarvalhoDeDeus]

Your on point. Jac does come with a surplus of excellent ideas. Agatha was not the main thing in Wandavision, but she did such a awesome job that now has her own show.

[@yarianbalaguer8288]

i legit NEVER expected Wanda to be the fan fav after Ultron; how they moved the character along all these years has been so fun! I kinda want her to have her own thing AWAY from the Avengers bc idk how the whole Dr Doom thing is gonna go now.

[@bmo6445]

Jac Schaffer really stepped her cookies up

[@mildhoof]

Her cookies BEEN stepped up 👑

[@GoMulanGo]

Agatha is about Agatha. It launches Billy into the MCU but as a whole this is about Agatha.

[@HermitLord]

Thank You! That flashback episode and episode 9 ending has done irreparable damage to the show😭😭😭

[@mostcreative3680]

I don't think they were misleading with Agatha all along being about Agatha in place of keeping Wiccan a secret. Obviously for the overarching plot of the Maximoffs the storyline to follow is Wiccans but if you watch the show the A storyline is clearly all about Agatha and her character.

[@TheJackedOLantern]

I like the polarity and contrast of Wiccan's and Wanda's paths despite being so similar. Wanda lost a lot of people throughout her story and went from Avengers/spy stuff to the mystic witchy corner of Dr Strange and the Agatha stuff. In contrast to Wiccan, who seems to be gaining allies, found families, and friends during his debut and is moving on from the witchy magic stuff to the Avengers/YAvengers corner. Kinda interesting when you think about it. It's like MCU Wanda's story done right lol. Heck, he even got the ghost Agatha mentor Wanda had from the comics. Billy now reminds me of Wanda from X-men Evolution just less angry.

[@daeity1]

you said it!

[@_Tennille]

Listen I’ll go wherever Jac Schaffer takes us!

[@mildhoof]

Preach!

[@JezzaBondiBeach]

Disney needs to focus on quality over quantity 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@TristanTML09]

where have you been? the only marvel movie to come out this year was deadpool and wolverine. marvel has taken a step back to try and make everything better and make sure it’s worth releasing

[@evilhag420]

One of the few thing Jac Shaffer could improve upon are the fight scenes, both Wandavision and Agatha All Along had very underwhelming finale fight scenes, like this is magic and the fighting should be next level not just magic blast blast and it’s over

[@mk6rfc1]

thats part of what makes strange the coolest magic character

[@TristanTML09]

the agatha finale was short and underwhelming to save money

[@ThePsychicGamer1]

What terry matalis did with season 3 of Picard was perfect. The dude has earned work.

[@_Just_Another_Guy]

Honestly, I think we need a break from all the separate exclusive shows and just bring in the Young Avengers already: Miss Marvel, Kate Bishop, Wiccan, Ironheart already have decent exposure. It's time to bring them all together plus introduce the few remaining Young Avengers like Hulkling and Speed.

[@poke1855]

YESSSS CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT COMES NEXT!!!! LOVE THIS CONER OF MARVEL.

[@ricardoramirez8392]

A video on Election Day? We’ve truly been blessed!!! Thank you, Grace for bringing a much needed distraction from the chaos outside. ❤

[@JimXMafia]

Jac saffer at the very least should direct scarlet witch movie

[@verskarton]

I call these shows the Maximoff Saga.

[@TheDeckOfficer]

Good way to kick off the day, morning tea and a Grace Agatha vid.

[@dageshi]

About the hate... it occurred to me in the past we had tv channels or we had blocks of programming which were dedicated to certain demographics. A Star Wars show could appear on a tv channel aimed at kids and adults would know it wasn't aimed at them and they'd probably not watch it. Nowadays there's no more channels, everyone assumes that any show put out by Marvel or Star Wars IS for them because there's nothing to say otherwise. Agatha effectively side stepped that because it's a show about Witches and male audiences understood it was more aimed at a female audience than them hence no backlash.

[@sanasideup7497]

You said more Agatha All Along content and I’m totally here for it!!

[@itwillbeokay5475]

Merry Christmas to me. A new vid from Grace. 🎉

[@kewlztertc5386]

Instead of Wanda being a love interest of Doom, make her a mind controlled servant.

[@HaleyRadiant]

I am SO excited for anything having to do w/ Billy, Agatha, Rio, Wanda, Tommy, basically anything Jac Schaeffer has started & I hope continues to write for! Literally giddy thinking of the possibilities & it’s been a while! 😆🙌✨

[@80smodel63]

I love the "What's Next" videos Excited for the future of Wiccan and Agatha!

[@enter4none]

Billy being besties with MJ (Zendaya), yes, yes, and YES ~ that feels correct.

[@kendricmaine1234]

I liked Agatha all along but but I don't care about rio and Agatha at all

[@GamuTiti-wk6bb]

So what did u care about

[@mattmurdoch6720]

Same. I liked the series but didn't care for the Agatha/Rio subplot. The show was more engaging when it was about mystery or trials/puzzles especially ep 7 weaving with lilias story.

[@brendanalexcurran3429]

Are we not talking about how every week her watch numbers grew ….. which never happened another marvel show… Agatha’s Base got bigger and bigger every episode.

[@Galadantien]

I think working Billy and Tommy into Vision and then making children’s crusade part of the storyline for Doomsday is their best bet to get the story we need done on time and in order. Then they’ve set Billy up very well with the additional exposure for a solo project after Doomsday, and given Wanda a deeply satisfying next story beat for a film all about concluding the narrative threads of the multiverse saga. It’s simple math. Hope Kevin and the Russos are switched on enough to make it happen. My worry is this storyline is bottom of their work pile because they were waiting to see if fans were too toxic about Agatha and now they have no headspace. But the Russos are big fans who have been following along all this time. So, maybe 🤞

[@hallm3lbp]

I just dont think it’s feasible for Billy & Agatha to show up in Doomsday without any further development somewhere else first. I honestly think Doomsday might just be about getting Scarlett Witch back on the playing field. As you said I think Billy needs another series to level up and find Tommy first.

[@hallm3lbp]

I do love the prospect of Agatha being in a movie though. I think they could do a lot of really cool stuff with her ghost effects that they couldn’t do with the tv budget.

[@Kaelxx124]

I wonder if they keep Wanda as a reveal for Doomsday. Assuming its where the multiverse is destroyed and Battleworld is created, I wonder if they use Wanda to kind of hold everything together. And then Wanda and Billy (and maybe Loki) meet on Battleworld and Secret Wars uses them combined in the place of Franklin Richards to restart the multiverse.

[@summermoore8901]

I want Billy to Reunite with his Twin Tommy. Billy was my favorite character in Agatha All Along.

[@Sandi22]

God I hope we get a wiccan series

[@joonyaboonya]

Regarding avoiding toxicity. I think this is proof that Star Wars toxic fans are a specific type of toxic. Their hate is potent and vicious over there.

[@ronaldwatts3367]

That is not a great idea. The Avengers need to stay the Avengers. You're doing too much. we get it grease you like the 🙄 show, but for the love of god, calm down he does not deserve to be part of the Avengers, and definitely not agatha? Really? He should be locked up, in my opinion.But I would like to have that conversation another day

[@chintz4561]

had just rewatched the first phase of mcu... it's just saddening to see in its current state given how great it had started...

[@DJDIGITAL1983]

NO, NO, DOOM shouldn’t look like STARK, nobody shouldn’t even be able to tell, because ONE, his face SHOULD be fucked up, and second that mask SHOULD be on 98% of the movie. I swear bro, they better not fuck this up, DOOM is the only Marvel character I care about 😩🙏🏽.

[@TacoDeSuaderoConTodo]

I bet you, 98% of the movie he is not goint to use the mask lol probably only for the trailer

[@950espinosa]

Billy had the benefit of being telepathic. I think that helped him acclimate but Tommy won’t have that luxury.

[@andrewW2053]

I don’t think Tommy will have the memories like Billy.

[@kingspydamann1]

Agatha All Along was excellent, can’t wait for the next chapter! But I don’t see any videos on your channel covering or reviewing The Penguin. That show is just as awesome if not more.

[@JMTgpro]

I don't really understand the crossroads. Why can't the Vision series be the direct continuation of Agatha All Along? That Tommy is found first by Vision and that, halfway through the series, Billy and Agatha arrive to start the Children's Crusade that will conclude with the Avengers movie.

[@larkin2662]

I don't think the Wanda Maximoff in Doomsday will be the 616-Wanda. I think she will be a variant existing in RDJ's Doom who exists in the Fantastic Four alternate universe. I think Marvel will use Scarlet Witch as Molecule Man was used in the comics. The bomb that goes off. creates incursions & becomes the destroyer of worlds. I think our Wanda having sacrificed herself In Multiverse of Madness ended up saving our universe and allows the 616-universe to be the last universe standing. During Secret Wars, our Wanda Maximoff could appear as an opponent to God-Emperor Doom and potentially goes missing by the end of the film after the multiverse is reborn. This could set up a Children's Crusade storyline post-Secret Wars.

[@sufyanelmoumi7186]

GRACE im obsessedddd with your look on this video it’s so Galinda coded omgg! 🩷🫧

[@StebieJ]

I think it would be cool if Vision quest followed vision & Hulkling as the “teen” they have listed.

[@wesley_3201]

"We do often turn into our parents." Lmaoooo

[@albertseline9807]

Grace Delivering on some sweet sweet content!

[@ViciousAmbitious911]

The removal of their back story… At first I thought “oh, maybe their backstory will be in the Wiccan show to find Tommy” and now I find out that there wasn't even considered? Like I get that this show isn't the Agathario show, but they could've cut Eddie ( Whom ISN’T EVEN TEDDY BTW 🤨) and added in some Salem scenes.

[@eejeej6363]

5:47 Wanda" Scarlet Witch" Rumors talk.

[@LABdk]

Thanks for the coverage, this show is so good. Upon seconds and third views, it gets deeper and deeper. Talk about Easter eggs!

[@draum8103]

I cannot believe this show had the main characters all being GLBTQ. And it was so damn good! Those last episodes were awesome. Billy looked amazing. Agatha had fantastic costumes the entire time, and it was excellent to see her real backstory.

[@AppleFlavoredTea]

It soo odd seeing the acronym that way, it doesn’t even roll off the tongue

[@rainstorm.]

for some reason when they greenlit the vision show i just assumed wiccan and tommy would appear there, but i think vision might have his hands full already 😅

[@javierquintero2072]

I was literally expecting a video like this from you Thank you so much

[@mkdfan]

Seeing Rio show up whenever there is a big death in the MCU will be awesome. Maybe someone won’t realise they’re dead and Rio will appear and the audience would be like what?! nooooo!

[@hailee2279]

i can’t wait to see wiccan in young avengers

[@elliottmotl5127]

I think Grace is giving marvel WAY too much credit. They are NOT thinking about exploring the brother dynamic of whether one had the right to bring the other back. They are thinking "next punch smash pretty light magic!"

[@Bubbles_Emporium]

Grace this top looks so lovely and yes I am so glad that Jac Schaeffer achieved so much with this show. Fingers crossed that it gets high binging numbers!!

[@garyprime6983]

If they are waiting to bring Wanda back so that she is the nexus cause of the Mutant Saga then that will be amazing; a reversal of the “no more mutants” moment.

[@da_hodgepodge6508]

What if... Wanda ended up in this new universe and she becomes a sort of adopted daughter for Doom... instead of lover

[@MaumesArt]

This is such an interesting corner of the MCU, for me they could easily focus on this for some years and let the rest for later lmao I wouldn’t mind (specially with the other shows)

[@sourceofallevil]

I think the lack of viewership protected the series from having a super toxic response.

[@Jakjakattack]

I'm sorry, but please just give me more Wanda. We haven't had well-written Wanda since 2020 at this point.

[@JustcallmeJ723]

Billy did remember Wanda and Vision when he was searching for Tommy, so I think that’s why he included Wanda and Vision in his cloak

[@JDH1197]

Been waiting for this! 🙌🏻

[@jamespittsjr9728]

They could do a Disney plus special like they did with the werewolf by night and have him find Billy

[@King.Cori.]

A Wandavision 3 would be great!

[@LEOIAMLEOONYOUTUBE]

Grace I just want to say thank you for all of the hard work you put in for us during this whole Agatha Era on the channel! Best Era yet! You always out do yourself! 👏🔥 Keep up the awesome work! Also, LOVE that shirt! 🩷

[@simonsmith7594]

What u don’t get is why these shows take years to get a second season back in the day you got 22 episodes and then another season a year later

[@sooshibun]

As a Wiccan fan, I actually thought the most interesting part of the series was the Agathario dynamic and backstory. I was really looking forward to seeing their past romance and how they met in the finale's flashback. So I hope they revisit that romance in the Wiccan series. Can never get enough of queen Aubrey Plaza!! TT ❤

[@LucasRibeiro-mj9uh]

For the love of God we don´t need new characters introduced in more new shows! Let´s work and develop what we already have!

[@That_OtherGuy95]

I really didn't want anything to do with the Agatha show but from the very little I've seen of Rio I might and the costume. I think I might have to give it a go

[@mildhoof]

It really is fantastic, I hope you give it a shot!

[@storysnob1022]

You’re right, Jac Schaeffer is unique and special. She deconstructs and examines superheroes in a fascinating way. She’ll always have my vote cuz of WandaVision.

[@BraidyBrown]

Yaaaas. Another BTT video ❤

[@luciusblackwood2640]

I just want Wanda redeemed and fighting with the Avengers against some horrible enemy.

[@tjm6794]

LOVE YOUR MARVELS VIDEOS

[@tjm6794]

I’ll take subplot with the young avengers in secret wars. Iman Hailey and Joe could easily hold their own movie but that depends on the fans. but there’s just too much going on doomsday to include them heavily.

[@johnpittsii7524]

Thanks for the video Grace ❤

[@sonofposeidon835]

I think putting the backstory of Rio and Agatha into a Wiccan show would make perfect sense. With Wiccan and Agatha on a quest to find Tommy wouldn’t Billy be asking questions about how Agatha met Death along the way? Also Rio would probably show up in the show to try and claim any of the three out of Tommy, Agatha, and Billy.

[@FMApologist]

respectfully i think shaping the MCU around a wanda storyline would be a huge mistake. i don’t know many casual fans that rlly connect with her character and want her to be the focal point. especially not the way they connected with the original avengers. business hat on.

[@JinxMadness]

What makes you think they’re building a storyline around Wanda? They can’t even give a answer if she’s coming back or not and won’t be on screen for another 2-3 years minimum, building characters around her maybe but it definitely isn’t her story anymore it’s Wiccans.

[@filmerdude24]

Grace's subtle love for Nico Minoru is genuinely awesome!

[@onlooker5398]

They should hire Jac Schaeffer if there will be an A-force movie

[@accurateoutrage]

Could they do the rumored Witch’s Road one-off as Billy and Agatha finding Tommy? Then Vision Quest could be them finding Vision and maybe some of the young Avengers leading into looking for Wanda, whom they find with Doom, possibly as a sister role though instead of a fiancee, in the Doom/Avengers movie?

[@quick4912]

I loved Agatha and WandaVision but this sounds like a disaster, mainly the Avengers Doomsday stuff and having Wanda in that. If the timing isn't right for Billy, Tommy, and Vision to reunite and see Wanda again, then I don't want Wanda in Doomsday. Doomsday and Secret Wars sound like big messes to me.

[@Lucas_Carvalho616]

Jennifer Kale has a friendship with Man Thing who was introduced in Werewolf by Night. She's also the cousin of Johhny Blaze and Danny Ketch, A.K.A the Ghost Riders and she's a member of the Midnight Sons.

[@SpaceViking2000]

I’m done hoping for Wanda to show up. If it happens I’ll welcome the surprise

[@reobeem]

The MCU has too much going on it'll be impossible to do it all quick. Honestly if I had control I would of done a full 22 episode series that focuses on Wiccan, Vision, and Wanda to get all of that done in one go. Then move to the movies where after everything is set up they have more room to breathe.

[@dec23]

I'm so happy we will be seeing more of Aubrey Plaza as Rio. I really didn't like the outcome of Agatha and Rio. I personally think Agatha does love Rio. The push back on Rio from Agatha is just her constant reminder how she lost Nicky. I think they should get back together, there was a lot of love there. Side story, last year I saw Aubrey Plaza on off broadway and the night I went Elizabeth Olsen was in the audience (they're really good friends). She is sooo pretty. I'm not sure anyone recognized her, no one bothered her. I saw her wait after the show to say hi to Aubrey. I didn't have the guts to say hello or ask her for a photo, I hate the idea of bothering someone. Anyways, she seemed really kind and looked like she had a nice time. It would be so cool if Wanda and Rio met somehow only cuz I love Aubrey and Elizabeth together in projects, they also have great chemistry!

[@sugen747]

Personally I think putting Wiccan in the Midnight Suns would be my choice. Especially if the rumors are true that the Blade movie script might be escaping pre-production hell. Agatha already does appear as a member of the Midnight Suns in the games so would be cool to see how Billy and Agatha interact with Blade, the Black Knight, Werewolf By Night, and Dr Strange all interact with each other.

[@NewOj1992]

Honestly IDK how they will be able to do this before doomsday cause like Billy needs to find Tommy first and vision obviously needs to do his show too so they gotta find a way to get this Wandaverse storyline going so Wanda coming back can be impactful

[@FilmPepe2024]

I’m sorry but I truly don’t feel like this show hits as much as penguin!

[@jamesgrieves2669]

I feel like finding Tommy isn't that difficult conceptually. He's in a bad position, but not a bad enough one to warrant an entire show. It's possible he ends up debuting in Doomsday if they are adapting Children's Crusade.

[@taviondavis1293]

I think there's an interesting way they could get Loki involved. Make him Kid Loki by allowing him to project his consciousness into one of the timelines (since his body is preoccupied). But hopefully they do it with another Kid Loki, not sure how I like the one they had in the Disney+ series.

[@JohnThrasher1]

Grace you really cooked in this video! I LOVE IT! Thank you!!

[@gonzo9788]

I was thinking that episode five could’ve been a good point to have some agathario backstory like how they met without entirely eluding that Rio is Lady Death

[@donyoung333]

Marvel would be idiots not to sign up Jac Shaeffer for everything to do with the Maximoffs, Agatha, and Rio

[@vicenteantonionunez347]

If they wanted to do Wiccan, could it be a six part series like Loki? Or maybe even a four-part special w/ hour long episodes? Would that shorten the amount of time it takes to get that project off the ground?