SNEAKO Angrily Defends His Course, Aba Tries To Moderate

[@andrewcox5873]

Sneako has never worked a real job, never owned a home, never been married, but he’s going to explain to us how having a 9-5, buying a house in the burbs, and raising a family is for suckers

[@SerrIvann]

Lmao true

[@Imperial_Squid]

Dude's like early 20 something too... I mean so am I but at least I'm aware I don't know fucking everything at this point 😅😂

[@Elimbi1]

LOOOOL Preach bro

[@DirtCobaine]

True his Ideology wouldn’t be so bad IF he didn’t say being a mature responsible adult is being a bot and giving up on your dreams. Like not everyone dreams of Lamborghinis and bitches. If anything those dreams are the most fucking bot dreams ever, the most shallow existence conceivable it’s cringe as hell. Sneako doesn’t realize how privileged he is. Not that he isn’t talented, dedicated and hard working. He absolutely is a self made boss and I respect that but he doesn’t realize how much luck it took for him to get where he’s at. And his and everyone who defends him, excuse is that only bots and people who gave up say it has to do with luck. But go out in the real world for like 5 seconds and you’ll see internet success is about 75% luck and 20% hard work and 5% talent

[@DirtCobaine]

@@Imperial_Squid true! It’s good to be aware you cannot possibly have the answers when you’re not even 30 yet

[@ReynoldsCJ]

Part of the problem with exclusively teaching yourself is that you only learn what you think you need to learn. You miss everything you might not realize will actually help you.

[@kevintheshane]

The best part of the internet is that there is endless information and the worst part is that there’s endless information.

[@akaBeaucoupFish]

Think of all the resources available to you in a college environment. I'm not even talking about the wealth of knowledge from instructors but all the equipment they have available for students to get their hands on.

[@ReynoldsCJ]

@@Wavyso sometimes Gen Ed classes are exactly this though, what you don't realize might be helpful to you. Many of them are too large or taught poorly by overloaded instructors, but in theory having a shared base of basic knowledge is highly beneficial.

[@akaBeaucoupFish]

btw, if sneako genuinely believes "anyone can be successful", let's give him a saxophone and some KZbin videos and come back in a month's time.

[@raymondmartini5500]

fkn based comment

[@CB54321]

It's actually sad to find out that Sneako's dad is the same type of person that he would look down on and call a bot. His dad made decisions that allowed Sneako the opportunity to be what he is and yet he has no problem insulting people that much are like his dad

[@artistformerlyknownaspoop859]

based

[@cheese186]

Sneako is the actual bot. People like him have existed forever, the difference is that 20-30 years ago they would write books about their success and how everybody can do it instead of having a youtube channel.

[@lifeunderthestarstv]

Bro it's sad that destiny keeps platforming people like destiny tbh. This whole community is fake it hurts. Like watching wwe and everyone thinks it's real.

[@xbabu142x]

@@coreyander286 Based and supportive father pilled.

[@chanr9531]

Yup. It’s sad to see everything play out like this.

[@johnsmead5096]

sneako: "pay me to equip you with the knowledge you need to build a career." also sneako: "school is a scam."

[@4ndytrout46]

It's also hilarious that he shits on education when he is one of the dumbest people I've ever seen.

[@mayapaya314]

This should be the to comment fr

[@LegendaryArchiver]

Dont ever forget these 3 rules of life: #1 Always pay me $50 a month #2 Always post videos of me #3 Get rich or get rich but pay me

[@bopa3933]

Just an fyi, to play devils advocate, school and education are different.

[@cotopaximusic]

​@@bopa3933 correct, but Sneako does not offer education or schooling

[@Johnyknocksville]

also sneako: STEM majors are failures. Meanwhile Science majors make sure he stays alive, technical majors make sure his job keeps working, engineers keep the building he's in safe, and mechanical engineers make sure that any mechanical machine he uses functions. Edit: I have been made aware, once again, that the M in STEM is Mathematics. I'm going for a tech degree so I only follow protocol and disregard the math/s lol

[@rumbleizer]

Electrical engineers and software engineers make the phone and the computer he uses, etc etc he's just fucking braindead lol

[@actuallyken8874]

The "losers" and "bots" he talks about are the same ones he calls crying when his internet goes out or his toilet is backing up.

[@blacksuitedsonic]

What does sneako even do? Is his only "skill" talking about how to "not be a bot"? He is young too so he couldn'T even talk about life experiences to learn from

[@trololkhil9868]

100% sneako is brain dead when it comes to this.

[@novepe]

Totally true I don't really umderstand why destiny lets him get away with so much. I mean I am sure destiny is aware of it...

[@vangoghsseveredear]

The irony of Sneako saying "I'm out of the system, I have a patreon" and telling his audience to be out of the wage slave job market, yet not realizing his wage slave audience is paying for him to say this shit. People who fall for this shit honestly deserve it

[@brendan6778]

Even just the simple fact that he thinks money is the key out of the matrix just shows how deep in the matrix he is But the catch is that he probably KNOWS his ideas are horrible for people and still peddles it for the bag, so yeah I dont feel bad either lol

[@anubisgod23]

@@brendan6778 he is more in the matrix than most people he calls bots

[@env0x]

you live, you make mistakes, you learn (hopefully), and then you die. that's why we should listen to our elders, because they learned the most throughout their life. but we also must be keen on knowing which ones actually learned from their mistakes and listen to them only, and don't listen to the ones who never learn from their mistakes. or those who were so sheltered their whole life that they never had to endure any kind of hardship, as they have nothing of value to offer.

[@miyonuri]

he'd prolly tell u he deserves it for helping those people get out of that wage slave stuff, but i can't judge cause i haven't looked into whether or not it actually helped lol

[@TheBasedUchiha]

You're right about that last part. The typical destiny simp deserve to be the lifetime wage slave nobodies simping for low value 304s. The typical sneako follower deserves exactly where they end up depending upon how much work they put in. I can tell you exactly who I would rather be. I decided to take a vacation today because I felt like it. I just bought a new car because I felt like it. I'm building a dream home from the ground up... because I feel like it.

[@WITHBEN]

sneako is the definition of someone who reads the summary of a book and thinks they can tell you what happened with every character involved

[@manzanasrojas6984]

perfect lmao

[@waleslandofdragons8842]

In this video sneako was made measured and found wanting 😁

[@basedchump]

Im dead 😭😭

[@marcsman07]

That's too damn accurate 😂

[@dedekiki6728]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@BromanThings]

Sneako is degrading college as a waste of time and money since you can learn online for free. Destiny describes paying for education as a safe and intelligent choice, and Sneako counter argues you don't need to pay to have networking or a proper skillset. Sneako is literally arguing against the concept of his own $50 a month bullshit course, and doesn't even realize it.

[@BreakRaven]

@@natediaz1863 Not everyone lives in Freedomland and has to pay for college.

[@diversitydeliverer7094]

@@BreakRaven Paying for college is a thing in many western European countries...

[@sepro5135]

@@diversitydeliverer7094 Definitely depends and it varies a lot. From up to like 5k a Semester in the UK, to like 150 in Germany or Sweden

[@ll2323]

I can’t become a doctor without school, in some cases school is absolutely necessary.

[@stackenitup87]

The argument now is the amount being paid and getting what you paid for, sneako offers a much cheaper alternative, however is he linking everyone who takes the course to an almost guaranteed source of income in comparison to a university… probably not, you still be better of going to uni than that course unless he has a high percentage of success stories

[@ZombiiGG]

Sneako isn't just a part of "the matrix" he is entirely reliant on it. Everything he has is in large thanks to the "wage slaves" working at Patreon, KZbin, TikTok, Discord, his ISP, the electric company. Calling all of them "bots" over and over again is childish. His unique, privlaged existence is only possible because of the people he constantly, berates. In other words: Not everyone can do what he does because he needs the infrastructure that's been put in place by people he looks down on.

[@cameronhopewell641]

I was waiting for destiny to say this. Their audience for this message is not “anybody”, it’s a very specific type of person, but admitting that would take away the optimism of that starry-eyed promise

[@Alex-wq5lw]

Absolutely, great point

[@gogomarioloshi]

It's very interesting because without "bots", sneako wouldn't have a career and he probably wouldn't have a father that did so much for his family. Without "bots", you can't get rich. It's like making fun of a guy working for subway when you're the one ordering a black forest ham 12 inch with light olive oil and extra cheese.

[@PjotrBakens]

this was said multiple times, and sneako knows this. He just wants all of his followers not to become this person. he forgets that this is not possible. he also forgets that there is nothing wrong with this, and that a lot of people are fine with being just this.

[@Bookish1995]

@@gogomarioloshi fast food workers are severely under paid, all of retail, life would suck so much without it... people are so materialistic they would cry

[@calebbowron]

actually insane that both of the people who are defending not ‘being a bot’ and getting a stable job were able to get a shot at what they admit is a super rare line of work, only because they were lucky enough to have parents that chose the ‘bot’ route and were able to provide that shot for them.

[@darkarchonisme]

Hearing the one guy say like 7 times that most people can just live with their parents while taking the gamble of trying to get rich on the internet or start your own business is completely insane. That britbonger desperately needs a reality check. The bit at the end where Aba gets them to admit they think tiktok is harmful to people / society but they're going to get their profit out of it anyways, really shows how much they are literally just Parasites convinced they are better than everyone else.

[@nineteen96]

Ikr. It's mind blwing how he talks about the avenue his own parents took to make his life a possibility.

[@lavellelee5734]

That pisses me off

[@finalgirlisla]

This is such a great point. There's so many people working behind the scenes on online platforms that provide the platforms these people use to make their income, if they're lucky enough to push through and make money. I like that Destiny makes the point that he came up in a time where it was less saturated and Sneako completely dismissing stuff like that kinda invalidates a lot of this mentality driven stuff he is saying.

[@getachew.]

Exactly! like how would they ALL be the leader of something without FOLLOWERS IF THEY'RE ALL "LEADERS" ?? ALSO the editor guy saying "well just bc u don't want to do it doesn't mean you cant ,its about your mentality" like no shit Sherlock.. but if I feel like death everyday grinding it out to become famous that's MORE of a detriment to my health than going with a stable college degree I adore.

[@kylam4830]

Sneako really needs to be humbled because education is power, and it’s obvious he needs to be educated on a lot of things. You shouldn’t ever shit on anyone who wants an education

[@bdsmgaming3627]

Mfs out here avoid college degrees because they wanna be different, these mfs never stepped into the real world, you need a degree to be a doctor, lawyer, engineer. I'd rather not rather having a surgeon who's only experience was watching fucking KZbin tutorials to remove my tumour

[@Trigger0x10c]

He needs to, but he is just completely incapable of processing the thought that he might be wrong about anything meaningful. Incel core 2 duo in his head just cannot compute

[@Xxrocknrollgod]

I think he’s doing alright

[@GeneralMokgar]

The topic is between these 2 was where to get the education in a traditional way or through the internet, nobody said that education is bad xD I am not on Sneako's side, but because of comments like these, Sneako fanboy lunatics start making examples out of you.

[@4ndytrout46]

​@@Xxrocknrollgod some day after you graduate from high school you won't think that.

[@tbsrises2888]

It's a testament to Destiny's character that despite all his his hard work, and level of intelligence, he can admit his success his mainly down to luck, and having a girls name

[@kyle8971]

@@herzeleid9525 It helps when he's actually HAD real jobs. He's HAD to bust his ass as a carpet cleaner and working for a casino. He HAS real world experience, and for the things he doesn't have experience on he is WILLING to listen and learn. Sneako has no life experience, lucked into a career and is too ignorant to understand that he DOESN'T know everything.

[@Lashkor]

Sneako can't admit that his success is because of luck (and hard work, but also, lots of people put in the work and still fail, probably like 95-98%), because it's counter to his brand.

[@pepelechad536]

It was super refreshing to hear, and it seemed like it terrified Sneako. He’s obsessed with having this image of being ‘high value’ that comes from being rich and an influencer. When DesTiny brought up that it was largely due to luck, it threatens the core of Sneako’s image.

[@pepelechad536]

@@kyle8971 The irony being that I guarantee that Sneako does not have the persistence or work ethic to do something like manual labour or carpet cleaning or hospitality and would be eaten alive in the real world. The more I listen to him, the more he reeks of privilege and being carried by mommy and daddy as a kid.

[@Lashkor]

@@pepelechad536 this other guy, his editor, Musa, is also saying that most people in the west can live with their parents and build up skills and a bank account, which is fundamentally untrue if you look at the stats. Also, I'm calling bullshit on his stats that a software developer with ten years of experience (his dad) is only making 50k a year. No shot.

[@Renamawn]

"1 in a million make it online" Sneako: points out the one editor who made it out of everyone in his class as his example

[@im1fadedRob]

His class had less than a million people in it, ergo it's better than 1 in a million. Boom, roasted.

[@Renamawn]

@@im1fadedRob were going to have to wait for the 2nd one to make it, we could get to a million before the 2nd one makes it lol

[@ReynoldsCJ]

He even told us the guy was competing with four others who didn't get the job.

[@richardommundsen2417]

And his editor didn't even get his skills from Sneakos course. He just happened to be the one editor that caught Sneakos attention. Using that editor as a way to sell his course is so fucking stupid

[@MintVolcano]

As someone who works as an editor I’m sure editing some redpill guys KZbin videos is not that guys dream job, thats the editing equivalent of a bad 9-5

[@LamesAMA]

It's unbelievably frustrating how Sneako literally cannot engage with anything Destiny says without mashing it through this filter to fit his ultra narrow world view.

[@moshofmeijer7169]

Theres just a part inside of him thats still really insecure. The more destiny destroys his arguments without doing it gently that part will fight back.

[@deadams8905]

@@moshofmeijer7169 I wonder how the convo would go without an audience present.

[@nineteen96]

Exactly

[@alexkiss1603]

I’ve never seen footage of Sneako discussing anything he actually understands.

[@uniqueunique8350]

😂😂😂❤❤❤!!!

[@user-fk8tr5ev8q]

he did good here

[@2crisp63]

@@user-fk8tr5ev8q nah

[@JustAPriapism]

Revisiting this a year later makes it so much more hilarious.

[@abyss7539]

@@user-fk8tr5ev8qSneako, specifically in this conversation after a year coming back to it, is even more stupid than I remembered.

[@TimbahOnToast]

As someone who edits videos... I was quick to pick up the basics, but then I hit a curve where I couldn't pull off anything close to what I was seeing other people do. Then I bought a faster computer, and everything I made looked insanely better. There's an economic barrier to learning these types of skills these guys are talking about, it's not just believing in yourself

[@ll2323]

Exactly…. the right equipment helps u out immensely, but that equipment is also expensive.

[@amp4105]

love ur videos mate especially ones on real dub / burial

[@VerGiLL1]

Nah bruh, go compile code or edit videos on that 10 year old celeron notebook your family has as the house PC as a profressional carrear it will work fine, trust me bro. These are the ramblings of kids raised on 1° world country with decent support from their familly, spouting the supids takes. Fun fact, I'm pretty sure Jake Paul basically said the same things in his course, take from that what you want.

[@TimbahOnToast]

@@amp4105 thank you! much appreciated

[@keiv2211]

You need money to make money. I genuinely feel like that saying applies to everything. Especially when you want to make really high returns. Sometimes Monetary sacrifices are necessary for future success. And by sometimes I really mean most of the time.

[@yungcris5211]

sneako is genuinely a lunatic. this matrix shit makes me roll my eyes every time. its his argument to everything and its honestly EXHAUSTING

[@LethalByChoice]

Every time someone makes a point Sneako deflects it and counters with some bullshit and doesn't acknowledge the point. HE INFURIATES ME. He refuses to listen, it's like pushing a wall.

[@kongvinter33]

it was cool back in 1999

[@jacobfromallstate4963]

Breaking out of the Matrix: buying tons of cars and expensive stuff, being completely blanketed in consumerism and status

[@richie.rich98]

@@jacobfromallstate4963 The irony is, that's exactly what being trapped inside the matrix is.

[@HRRRRRDRRRRR]

He's a legit NPC. Anyone who pushes that bullshit The Bro Secret crap and then points at top 1%er famous people as examples is either braindead or a grifter.

[@kaildraconis]

Its so incredibly frustrating to see destiny lay out an entire detailed response to sneakos question and sneako listens to absolutely none of it to just reask the question in an even more stupid way

[@EmpureMedia]

I love that he’s calls everyone brainwashed, illogical and cannot ever respond with any level of nuance or self control lmfao.

[@yungcris5211]

@@EmpureMedia it’s infuriating that he calls people matrix slaves but refuses to acknowledge the fact that the world would not function if everyone followed his advice and even at that it’s impossible for everyone to follow through. This is all coming from insecurity to save face for his shitty scam program

[@EmpureMedia]

@@yungcris5211 exactly. You can’t be a boss without employees.

[@Lhoyte1]

I don’t know why you guys continue to insist that sneako is intelligent

[@kaildraconis]

@@Lhoyte1 who said that?

[@negyal02]

59:40 love the point that Destiny started to make here. If we didn’t have “complacent” people in our society, Sneako wouldn’t even be able to sit here and say the things he’s saying.

[@lavellelee5734]

The irony is almost as strong as the lack of self awareness 😂

[@Rasuization]

As someone with a video game degree: I didn't need to go to school for the skills. There's so many ways to learn how to make games, and currently there are so many more opportunities for indie development, you absolutely don't need to go to school to learn these things... BUT I WOULD DO IT AGAIN IF I COULD BECAUSE IT LET ME EXPERIENCE GAME DEVELOPMENT IN AN ENVIRONMENT THAT WAS SAFE. If I had to learn the failures I did in school while my livelihood was on the line, I would have been FUCKED. I experienced a team environment, I met amazing connections who both learned with me and tutored me, and I was able to safely fail without fear of anything more important being on the line than a grade. School isn't just about being taught by someone who tells you what to do; it is also a place to EXPERIMENT. It's so valuable to be able to do that, and saying it's useless is so narrow-minded

[@Rasuization]

So many people in this call fail to see the flaw in what they're saying. "I know a guy who is super successful after I helped them" yeah. Cause you know them. What about the guy who doesn't? You can't use your friend as an example and say that's proof. By knowing you, the successful connection, they have something the average person doesn't. You ARE different from the average person, you just aren't aware enough to see that because it was natural for you.

[@youisstupid2586]

I can relate to this soo much. I am learning back end programming on my own and every day i need to muster up enough courage to learn something new just to fail at implementing it for 3 hours straight. learning alone you take everything at face value. You don’t know best practices, there’s no one to guide you, you figure out things on your own, and most of the time there’s an easier way to do it. I wish i had an environment where i could fail and not have to deal with it all by myself.

[@WatOnsonn]

This idea that "every successful entrepreneur dropped out, so therefore it's a good idea to drop out" is a HUGE example of survivor bias. Saying "you only fail if you quit" is like burying your hand in the sand to the fact that people need to eat and shower too, you can't just live out of a vague idea of a dream

[@sonicboom564]

It’s also not true, almost every single billionaire went to college

[@deadams8905]

I don't know about all the people that dropped out of college who became successful but I would think that they we're probably already on their way and made the choice to drop out because what they were doing started to become a better option for them. They didn't just not go to college and take some online courses and become where they are today. The way Sneako frames it is so bizzare

[@KingJinzo2125]

@@deadams8905 he frames it in a way that doesn’t let you respond. It’s almost like rhetorical questions, and which only really works if the two are on the same page. And since sneako only wants it his way there’s not going to be any basic foundations that the two can debate on

[@gogomarioloshi]

Sneako doesn't even understand that a degree is a form of networking and you can meet people in college that can help. If someone sees a degree on a resume, that doesn't mean they will automatically hire you, but it does look good and looking good is part of getting the job. Would you hire someone with proof of them knowing something, or hire someone that knows how to do something, but doesn't have credentials? The person with less credentials is automatically going to get paid less.

[@Kris-wo4pj]

​@@sonicboom564 and it was always a highly credited one. Like yale or harvard or brown or ucla. Ya know the ones that reject 98% of their applicants.

[@youmanyousef]

Sneako and his editor is the embodiment of “average anecdote enjoyer” they love to say “my friend did” “I know someone”

[@yungcris5211]

I know man that shit was insufferable. Every time they opened their mouths it was “I have a friend” or “someone working for me” I don’t care what your friend did, I CARE WHAT THE MAJORITY OUTCOME IS. They cannot proccess that

[@ShyOff]

They're kids who still think exceptions are the rule, when in reality, the rules are the rules, and for a good reason. It just screams "hasn't lived life yet," from those two. Hope they grow.

[@danny87573]

His example is crap too can tons of people be experts? The only reason his editor is making money is because not a lot of people have his knowledge. If all his audience jumped on that knowledge no one would pay his editor thousands for common knowledge and he would be living off sneakos pay.

[@milkycannon444]

yeah you cant argue life with people under the age of 25, let alone 2 dudes who are successful from a very rare set of circumstances both in love with the smell of their own shit.

[@Thewesmen67]

They both are young and ignorant

[@undeadman7676]

“You don’t need a music degree to be a successful musician. You just need to meet the right people and perform and get good and put in the work” Okay. How do you “meet the right people”? How do you “get good”? How do you “put in the work”? If you don’t go to college, it is COMPLETELY possible to do all of this on your own. It’s also inherently luck-based. If you go to college for music, you are literally paying to be surrounded by “the right people”. If you get into a good music school, you are all but guaranteed to get a few years in the performance industry. It’s not the most lucrative field, but it is impossible to argue that you’re not making incredibly valuable connections.

[@swordyshield]

yep this. As soon as I heard him say you just need to meet the right people and perform I was like what? How you gonna meet the right people and convince them to let you perform if your a complete nobody, just meeting someone will be insanely hard and convincing them to let you play etc will be even harder. Not to mention you will need to somehow be good enough to convince you are really good which very likely would require some kind of education as self-study to the top levels is excessively hard to do

[@LoveyourzAF]

he's literally admitting that he's pushing people to ruin their lives to dream than obtain a real thing... he just said everyone isn't gonna make it.

[@mr.peanutbutter5423]

he isn’t making that connection.

[@anubisgod23]

Sneako is hands down one of the single most delusional people on the internet. It's genuinely impressive but also scary

[@bennymountain1]

Can't sell snake oil if you don't yell about how much you believe in it on every corner.

[@marcsman07]

He goes so hard on the red pill kool aid it's WILD.

[@gothelvis3541]

He's a mixed up kid, it's what Tate does to them. Makes them confused when they have no experiance to compare to.

[@marcsman07]

@MrPeppa He's 23 but thinks like hes still 14

[@misantropology]

No. He has a lot of misconceptions about the world, as everyone does at his age, but like 20% of heavy internet users are genuine schizos.

[@dylanwho6299]

Sneako is a narcissist. Ive known too many people like him. His projections, self aggrandizing and attention seeking behavior is unreal. The way he gets angry and defensive on a dime gives me trauma flashbacks. Narcissists are extremely charming and can really lure you in, but they are dangerously manipulative people.

[@emayan06]

This the one, I be saying it out loud but don’t comment it but he is a true narcissist just full of himself 😅

[@J.P_INC.]

The red pill was built on it

[@J.P_INC.]

Red pill is based on it

[@clearmind95]

"Trauma flashbacks" please get off the internet.

[@J.P_INC.]

@@clearmind95 lol. Flashbacks are flashbacks. Basically periodical flashes of memories or events in one's past. It's could be good or bad memories

[@drnknmaster]

I'll say one thing for sneako, every time he opens his mouth I gain a lot of confidence in my own level of intelligence. Listening to sneako is like watching karen freakout videos, I feel much better about myself after watching these crazy ass people make absolute idiots out of themselves.

[@lavellelee5734]

😂 you had me for a split second

[@camiloalonso3709]

facts

[@TheHeroClass]

this is gold

[@laurenbethhx3]

this is too funny, thats a great way to think of it tbh. too bad he's "teaching" young people

[@tucci06]

This has actually been huge for me in the past few years. I never really knew just how fucking stupid you could be while still being really successful in life and it's given me a lot of confidence.

[@d34dmagg0tz]

honestly sneakos editor is so much smarter and well articulated. i was pleasantly surprised by his ability to debate and see other people’s perspectives. really makes me question why he follows sneakos lead.

[@yungcris5211]

For real dawg. Sneako is a lunatic

[@asw654]

He's friendly with Sneako. It's not that hard to understand. The editor might appeal to you, but he clearly lacks Sneako's charisma for the wider audience. Destiny himself said Sneako hooked him up. As for Sneako himself, as much as I disagree with him, I like him enough. He actually believes the stuff he says so I don't think he's deliberately trying to scam people. 50 dollars for a class is not a "huge scam". This is ridiculous. I don't understand Destiny's audience sometimes. Maybe Muta should have weighed in. He understands the tech industry. We pay hundreds to thousands of dollars for 2-3 day classes. So many people online jumping on Sneako, why not go bully kids for setting up lemonade stands FFS. There's so many other things to criticize him on like his JAQing over Kanye, the jew question, etc while being ignorant. This "scam" thing is such a nothing burger.

[@coptor4232]

@@asw654 arguing with air rn

[@stephenwithaph1566]

I dont care if someone is friendly or not if they're giving stupid and acting stupid they are at LEAST indistinguishable from someone who is stupid. With the disaster way he fumbles about his existence thinking "im right cuz its what I want to believe and not the matrix" with no mental checks there's absolutely no reliability to anything this guy says. He admits, himself, that his ideology of hustling will fail for most who subscribe to it, there's nothing here to legitimize; he will never change, he has no incentive to. This entire discussion was targetted at his audience, NOT Sneako, why bother fixate on him?

[@viderevero1338]

He's obviously the case study of a normal guy. When someone looks at something like the fan base of Andrew Tate, or Sneako, they imagine people vastly different from themselves, but ultimately a lot of normal people can be swept up in their crowd purely from the more self help ideas they perpetuate. You could see that he still enjoys Sneako's humor, and jokes, whilst ironically being polar opposites to him in terms of articulation. That's not to necessarily give props to Sneako, but to expand our basic Idea of how we view other fanbases that have seperate opinions. One person's favorite KZbinr isn't going to dictate their entire life or personality. They may very well be changed, or follow a similar personality archetype of someone like lets say Andrew Tate, but when you have an audience in the millions, most normal people are going to watch for specific reasons, and tune out the more brain dead takes. Plus overall, everyone has a baseline for how they act, and this guy in particular might've just been more soft spoken. Eloquent, and 'reasonable' per say. That's just the type of person he is, that exceeds what his own personal beliefs are.

[@tranquill8968]

A big problem I had with Sneako and his editor friend arguing is that they fail to separate what is theoretically and realistically possible. It is theoretically possible for people to potentially go through extreme mindset and/or personality changes to do what they do, but is it realistically possible? Most likely not. Most people will never win the lottery, that doesn't mean it is not theoretically possible, but it is realistically impossible.

[@anthonyrodrigues8470]

I agree 100% with you you can talk the talk but when it comes to walking the walk it is completely different if sneako and his editor get screwed completely and fall i doubt they can climb back up too where they were right now it just looked like they were claiming that high ground saying "I'm better then you" and when they lose that ground i want them too come back too this moment and think on it

[@DyingToLive1987]

@@anthonyrodrigues8470 you mean if they fail not when. The editor is 19 stacking his money so if he failed it would take years from what it sounds like before he would be in a bad spot. And his parents would help float him until he found his next venture. They aren't going to fail and for the situation they are in, preaching to others in the same situation they are the better mentor then destiny

[@J.P_INC.]

I’m theory sneaky and his ideas wouldn’t work lol. To believe once good things happen or you become successful, bad things or failures can’t and won’t happen or shouldn’t happen is straight idiotic

[@DyingToLive1987]

@@J.P_INC. when exactly did he say that bad things can't happen once good things happen?

[@J.P_INC.]

@@DyingToLive1987 him saying that failure isn’t an option or a person not following a certain dream or path is somehow loosing or being weak some way is the same as saying failure or change of course is a bad thing or it shows weakness. KZbin isn’t a life long viable thing seeing something is always replaced with something new. But an actual career can bring life long success

[@npc7679]

Honestly this rhetoric is waaaay more destructive than tate's dating advice regarding women. You can recover from being a misogynist but you can't recover from wasting years of your early 20s. People who listen to him are gonna hate him from their gut few years from now.

[@kevintheshane]

You can definitely recover. But yeah, graduating college and getting a nice job at 22 is a ticket to easy street.

[@npc7679]

@@kevintheshane you can still make something out of ur life. But recovering, as going through life like you haven't wasted first half of ur 20s is not possible. These are golden years of ur life.

[@NoInFoo8]

I agree a lot of those guys will definitely have a vendetta against sneako for wasting thier early 20s and that could potentially be dangerous.

[@Weebgamer236]

Same thing about college with about half a million in debt😂😂😂😂😂😂 that's way worse than losing 59 bucks yall should be more open minded since your liberal

[@josephk1342]

@@Weebgamer236 if you graduate you have a degree, also there’s no way you’ll have that much debt from a 4 years bachelor.

[@YoutubeStyleChannel]

Sneako: Going to school is a waste of time, you can learn anything by watching KZbin videos Also Sneako: Buy my online course please

[@wuzomed]

Remind me again where do most people go to learn the essential of life to be a thriving citizen like, cooking, taxes, local laws, economy, credit score, housing, money leveraging etc. It isnt school unless you want to specify in one of those fields but you need all of those to thrive as a citizen or cog in the system.

[@josephk1342]

@@wuzomed you can learn all that stuff in a few weeks

[@wuzomed]

@@josephk1342 exactly one week IN THE INTERNET rather than a $10k semester in uni.

[@mcddennisk]

@@wuzomed I'm going to THRIVE as a citizen by cooking meals and paying taxes 😎😎

[@wuzomed]

@@mcddennisk word? try thriving without knowing either.

[@ZevFei]

1:50:00 You want to survive and be sucessful = listen to Destiny, Mutaa, Aba You want to keep dreaming = listen to Sneako

[@FREEZA_AKA_MR_COOLA]

Aba doesn’t teach anything lol wtf

[@366schultz]

I am a coach of 8-18yr olds, this conversation just reminded me to talk to my kids about who they are listening to online. I hope none of them are buying into this knucklehead. All that said I am a college drop out who is a "follower" in sneakos mind. My "mindless matrix" job ensures clean rivers. There are options other than college but his scam aint it.

[@jakobpbengtsson3608]

Yes! This is such an important point. The "followers" who "gave up" and are "plugged in" do the real shit that needs to be done so people like him can sit around making bank in the entertainment sector, providing zero benefit to the rest of society. He's not a leader, he's a con artist, though he might not even realize it.

[@yungcris5211]

@@jakobpbengtsson3608 he’s a straight scammer

[@winosandbar5077]

I’m a heavy machinery operator and I’m sure these guys would look down on my 7-5 job… but it is putting two girls through college and the things I help build will be around a lot longer than my meat suit.

[@sparklingicetea9410]

You have to extend an incredible amount of goodwill towards Sneako to not think he is just scamming people lmao

[@phantasticmrphasma9874]

He just ain’t intelligent.. he’s perceptive (to an extent) and ambitious (entitled), but his foundation is sand

[@isafarooq1721]

Is it a scam or just a shitty product?

[@lurkr5458]

@@isafarooq1721 Sounds like a scam if its all just stream VODs that could be watched for free live

[@astashasta1]

Hes learned from tate

[@tomaschlouba5868]

He is just scamming people. I thought he is just this dumb kid but hes bad faith scammer.

[@casko9626]

"but you won the lottery? how can you not tell all your fans to liquidize their assets and buy lottery tickets??"

[@alexjoshuaws]

You won't buy lottery tickets? Okay fall in line BOT

[@HangingGarden606]

It sounds like you're saying that not everybody can win the lottery, why do you not want people to win the lottery?

[@alexjoshuaws]

@@HangingGarden606 no they're saying that you can apply yourself in a way that you WILL win. They're guaranteeing you will win the lottery.

[@HangingGarden606]

@@alexjoshuaws I was riffing

[@robertwalker9579]

This editor didnt realize that, the same way he “couldnt” get a degree or complete school there are also people who “cant” be online hustlers

[@dannnnydannnn5201]

For the record, Miles Davis played the trumpet and he moved to New York to attend Julliard. He did eventually drop out but his autobiography did mention that although he could outplay even some of his instructors, he found value in school anyway. Having a formal education gave him an upper hand as an artist. And this is the entertainment industry we’re talking about. Sneako has no idea how little he really knows about other subjects when he says “school is a scam”. Try learning to become a surgeon through KZbin tutorials.

[@kevintheshane]

I’m surprised Destiny didn’t go to this well. He’s not a professional caliber musician, or a genius/prodigy like Davis, but Destiny’s fluency in music theory shines through in every music stream he does. Literally “uses” his education all the time, even as a drop out in an unrelated field.

[@babygirl1807]

Exactly

[@dylankempthorne]

@@kevintheshane he didnt correct him because it didnt really matter to the conversation, the point sneako was making was there are successful people that didnt go to school. So even tho Miles Davis did go to school, Destiny knew what he was getting at.

[@cp3190]

And lets ignore the fact that Miles Davis also came from a privileged background who always had his family to fall back on.

[@alexanderborguez261]

Miles david was born in the 1920’s and died in the 1990’s. I dont think thats an accurate way to tell if college today is worth it

[@lucasparham5068]

The funny thing to me is that of all the people Destiny talks with, Sneako produces almost the most predictable responses to any input of anyone. Yet he is one who constantly accused people of being “bots.”

[@RocketCrafting]

Quickly noticed this a few weeks ago, he spouts shit I would say 5-6 years ago, word for word, when I thought I was “woke”. Kind of embarrassing considering we’re basically the same age

[@MrShagification]

The leader-follower thing is the biggest indicator why you can tell Sneako is not old and experienced enough to understand the world. Most people don't actually want to be leaders. It's simply far more comfortable to leave the stress of "leading" to someone else and do the shit you agreed to do then not have to think about it anymore. And humans are creatures of comfort. That's fine.

[@phantasticmrphasma9874]

And very often, those who want to lead most (like sneako and his kind of people), only want to do so due to their entitled ego.. real leaders understand how and when to follow and have compassion for their peers. Sneako is the psychopath type, the highly entitled, unintelligent but his high desire for what he thinks he deserves results in him consuming a lot of knowledge, making him seem intelligent but because his methodology of data seeking is driven by what he wants, it fails to teach him the balance beyond what he desires. His whole reality is a product of what he wants. This is the mind of a psychopath, their whole reality is shaped relative to their nuanced needs/desires. Hes thick AS

[@supernintenjoe8911]

@@phantasticmrphasma9874 And those who want to lead are bad at it.

[@lavellelee5734]

@@phantasticmrphasma9874 that's my biggest issue with sneakos point here, sure they're people who strive to assume command, but in reality how many of them want to pursue leadership roles to enrich society vs just themselves? And then you have to factor in those whom may desire to lead..... maybe aren't as effective at being a leader like someone else

[@TgarMask]

I think it largely comes down to a naivety about consequences. Almost everyone is enticed by the allure of fame and fortune but for sneako and his editor, they literally can't fail, their support network ensures they're safe. For a working class parent who financially can't get out of credit card debt they cannot afford to fail, they have a duty to their family to succeed so they have to take the safe route he's shitting on

[@cocacraesh]

I have lots of trouble with him using the words "leader" and "follower" in this context anyway, it's extremely loaded. For him, "leaders" are just people who got rich by pursuing a non-mainstream career path, but you can look at lots of upper management, political figures, and yes, even entrepreneurs, who got into their positions by following the "mainstream" path as well, at least to a certain extend. The reason he uses "followers" and "leaders" as terms is just to prime his audience to agree with him. Just because you go to school does not mean you are a work slave, or don't want to take on responsibilities.

[@blufox3900]

Sneako's the kinda guy to say you're a scientist after watching Khan Academy.

[@niclastname]

So by Sneako's logic: *Don't buy his course, you can learn everything he learned and get rich for free.*

[@loopymomy2532]

True lol

[@sudev29]

You literally can. All the shit he says is already there for free, he's charging you for connections basically.

[@sudev29]

@@natediaz1863 then why not just say pay for networking? There are already plenty of establishments that do it. Why say creativity kit when it's actually not about that? And also, why call all of college education as a scam and complacency when he's doing the cheaper less accurate version of the same thing? I will agree, a lot of college degrees are a scam, like gender studies n shit, but that doesn't mean all of them are. You can't learn law, medical, engineering and many other faucets of education just with the internet. Even the ones you can just learn with the internet, not everyone can absorb it the same way. People want that community learning with peers and experienced people. Being around people with similar mindsets rather than seeing just texts on a chat screen. Sneako goes and calls everyone a bot and complacent just cause they don't share his world views. He can't think beyond the point of people are genuinely built different, he does a bunch of interviews in an ny subway thinks the world is all the same. All while he sells digital networking and calls it by another name. He's the bot repeating the same complacent shit.

[@bb_poison]

Sneako undervalues how much his family has enabled to be where he needs to be

[@SwimGrizzly]

ty segall brother i love you

[@Aliyaaaa]

Typical privilege. He needs some reflection on what allowed him to be where he is. Not everyone had the same things.

[@bb_poison]

@@Aliyaaaa yeah its kind of unbelievable the message he shills that anyone that doesn't follow their dreams is a loser and a bot, when his main inspiration and enabler of his dream is his dad who would under his life model would be a loser and a bot because he chose the stable route and didn't follow his dreams. Sneako does not understand the sacrifices you have to make sometimes in adulthood.

[@Blackwingsss]

Thats exactly what a bot would say /s

[@upd0g1]

Honestly it’s the typical hyper-privileged perspective. Starting out on third base and thinking you hit a triple etc etc

[@tetrahedron_in_space]

Another huge thing that Sneako fails to realize and would be absolutely 100% baffled by is that some people weigh the pros and cons of going to college versus "following their dreams" and realize they can just follow their dreams later after creating financial stability, which in and of itself is a form of maturity if you aren't confident in your ability to make a living off of your dream. For example, Sneako keeps bringing up that Destiny "gave up on his dream" to play the saxophone. But the financial stability Destiny has created in what he does now allows him full autonomy to play saxophone if he wants to (or to play the piano, as he says in this video). One of my best friends plays electric guitar, played in a band in high school and loved it. He spent quite a bit of money on equipment and had aspirations of going into music in school, but ultimately decided to major in electrical engineering in college. He made that decision about a decade ago. Fast-forward to now - he has a government job making $250k a year, a nice house, a wife and kid, couple of dogs... and an in-house studio he's built where he can jam out and record whatever he wants. Could he have tried to make it by going to art school or finding some people willing to form a band and take that risk? Sure! But he went the safe route WHILE talking with his then-girlfriend, now-wife about what he wanted to do in life, which is play music. She agreed that when the time comes, he could have a room in the house be a studio, and a decade later, that's what they did. And it wasn't like he wasn't playing guitar and enjoying music that entire decade, either. Sometimes we make the decision to delay our dreams, and that's perfectly okay if we have a plan in place.

[@jirehbochung5983]

That is one of the most profound comments I've ever read, in regards to deciding whether if you should follow school or dreams. I strongly agree that if you're a man, you should separate passion and career so that its a healthy balance. And you can even come back to your passion after being stabled from doing a job that you may not necessarily like. Thanks for sharing.

[@meltedWax169]

​@@jirehbochung5983what do you mean bu profound?

[@jirehbochung5983]

@@meltedWax169 Profound means powerful. A word that is mostly used in a positive way.

[@chris.pbacon440]

I'm glad sneak jumped in the discord. This conversation just further proof of what we all know to be true. The pandering to young men, the flashy video editing, the radical conspiracy conjecture all serves a single purpose, To distract from the fact sneako is a shoes name

[@Rayray19112]

Bro I wasn’t expecting that 😂

[@vikkipink1288]

Here’s a great example that proves sneako wrong, my brother is damn near a computer genius. He knows more about electronics than anyone I know and knows more about than the majority of people I see online even. He’s got bad aspergers and other health problems that limit his ability to be sociable, not to mention the fact that with where we live and poverty stricken my family is, he is not getting the chance to meet these people and even after the few chances he did, he was told how impressive his knowledge and capabilities were but he didn’t have 4 year degree so there was nothing they could do. Maybe if we lived in like Texas or California he might be able to find someone who could take a chance on him at like a start up or something but in Mississippi? Hell no. One time he did get offered a job as programmer for a indie game but the pay was not enough to justify uprooting our entire family to move to Illinois. The reason it would have to be our whole family is because we never able to afford to get him the help he needed with his mental problems that greatly interfere with his ability to function on his own. Sneako has so had privileges in life that he just pretends doesn’t exist and it’s so annoying.

[@interstellarlapisthecccp4946]

when it comes to programming and work with computers if you know how to do the work no one cares if you have a degree; in many cases it's seen as beneficial seeing as there is no minimum salary they have to pay you given your completed schooling and you're able to get a lot of work that way. I think the problem is that though he may be talented with computers he just doesn't have the requisite experience for the job and no one wants to train a new employee for months to do a job when they can easily just get someone who has been to school or completed the necessary certifications and will be able to do it right away. people don't really need computer geniuses for server maintenance or website design, they just want someone who knows how to do it and that they don't have to pay too much. your brother should look into getting his certifications at a local community college and then he will easily be able to get himself a job which only look that you have the right qualifications and how much experience you have. he may have to start off at the bottom but if he's really good he'll easily make his way up over the years and build a portfolio from all the different places he's worked at as well as all the contract work he's done and then he'll be able to get hired at the better paying posts

[@puppetmasterproductions]

@@interstellarlapisthecccp4946 too bad being a teacher relies Ian’s requires good social skills

[@beewest5704]

Sneako suffers from a bad case of survivorship bias. He cannot even fathom how many kids started the same time on YT & got nowhere. He only recently acknowledged that he is privileged to have a well off enough family & a supportive dad to start his YT career. He also does not get that not all of us can make millions on YT or online like he does. He does not even know what he does not do.

[@the_real_cookiez]

Yup!! Too bad sneako doesn't understand this. Those two words would've destroyed sneako. "survivorship bias"

[@coocoo3336]

one of my freinds has been doing youtube for years making content extremly simular to how sneako started and working his ass off and only ever got 600 subs. YT is luck, he is now going to college. sneako cannot fathom the sheer amount of people who started exactly like them but the dice roll of the yt algorithm didn't chose them

[@deadams8905]

@@coocoo3336 plus, not everyone who has a KZbin wants to pander to red pill ideology that is the latest trend to make money.

[@1N2345]

I'm a software engineer. I was basically more towards sneako's "just learn on your own, reading the books" cause that's a lot of what my classes were (and I learned a shit ton of physics and chemestry that I don't really use... just interesting stuff). But Destiny is so on point that people who have to ask weather they should go or not, probably need the guidance. You changed my mind. Good job.

[@Kuroganemk2]

I'd agree at least on that point, if you have no idea what you want to do, then go to some type of school but it doesn't really need to be college. Trade schools might be a better option as you learn the craft faster, don't have the same debt and can start working faster.

[@idiotbassist6423]

Idk about the US but in uk most entry software engineer jobs require some sort of degree, unless you're doing an apprenticeship. I basically just played league for my bachelor's and got a decent grad job.

[@Kuroganemk2]

@@kurokjo9107 Yeah there are points for and against it, are some colleges a scam and can the better ones be done better? Yes, but a lot of time that is the better choice. People just don't know what they want at 18 most of the time.

[@TevronWisdom]

@@idiotbassist6423 As an IT engineer. Experience matters the most. If I had to rewind time. I would do volunteer, apprenticeships, self learn and temps work instead of university. Build and promote your skills. Employees test you before taking you on. Both are in the wrong

[@Sashique86]

​@@idiotbassist6423 Yep! Web Developer from UK and played a lot of LoL too ha! Was lucky it was only 3k a year at the time. My course barely brushed on web dev but I got one because it was one less barrier to secure my first role and I don't regret it. Mine had a year in industry program too which helped me get an internship in my gap year so I graduated with 1 year experience already to beat competiton.

[@burnout3373]

Sneako is the living embodiment of a conformation bias 😂

[@missinterpretation4984]

What I’m gathering is when you hear a counter argument you just yell your opinion louder and keep going.

[@GrundleLongDong]

@@missinterpretation4984and if that counter argument completely defeats your point, slightly rephrase your point using more obscure language and say it louder with a couple personal attacks

[@Renagadezzzz]

Aba is definitely super level-headed in this conversation. I think he makes a good moderator.

[@fergusdenoon1255]

most comedians have found out that life's a bit of a joke.

[@godoffunny3068]

@@fergusdenoon1255 Real

[@Ruchikun]

Especially the part where sneak really - i feel on purpose - is just misrepresenting destiny while Destiny was afk.... It just was so disingenuous it was almost like lying.

[@boogie8586]

@@Ruchikun sneako only exists as a disingenuous person

[@darkstarr88]

Aba's great at reading the room when he's not in a troll mood. Plus he's always in YT chat, so of course he's based

[@synlion]

I'm one hour in and it is unbelievable to me, that no one has yet asked Sneako how I can become a certified Oncologist by watching KZbin videos and shelling out $50 a month for the Creativity Kitᵀᴹ.

[@Kuroganemk2]

He'd tell you to become a youtuber and earn more money than an oncologist, probably.

[@fatihcecen3635]

I think he argues for earning money not for doing a specific job.

[@Kuroganemk2]

@@fatihcecen3635 Well this was a convo about whats better going to college or doing e-comerce shit etc to earn more money.

[@fatihcecen3635]

@@Kuroganemk2 he has points imho but I interpret it different. Learning editing, photoshop, web design, software, coding, digital marketing, excel online is much more smarter than %70 percent of the college imho.

[@Kuroganemk2]

@@fatihcecen3635 They both have a point but are arguing pass each other lol

[@randomaccount6146]

The video in a nutshell. Sneako being delusional for 2 hours straight. And Destiny trying multiple approaches to explain himself to him but getting tired of it at the end.

[@user-mz1vo3yt1p]

Elon Musk absolutely did not drop out, mans literally has 3 degrees LMAO

[@manny2themaxxx333]

Out of every one on this call I agree with Aba the most. Sneako is putting away to much faith in telling people not to go to traditional schooling. Destiny is putting to much faith in telling people to go to college. My personal opinion is to keep ALL options open and pick the path you want. Aba is hitting hard when he says not everything is for everyone 💯

[@emayan06]

Facts

[@JohahnDiechter]

Sneako's chat is full of followers who think they are leaders.

[@PK-zo9vx]

The irony in Sneako calling college a scam but supporting Hustlers University and his own Creativity Kit...

[@BreakRaven]

@@natediaz1863 Imagine living in a country where you have to pay for good education.

[@siradjmounirlamri9663]

@@BreakRaven we don't pay for a good education

[@BreakRaven]

Then what's the point of the student debt argument?

[@siradjmounirlamri9663]

@@BreakRaven i live in a country where studying in university is free, so yeah i believe I'm lucky and even if it's paid in most of the countries, i believe it's worth it, and amazing place to find yourself and be responsible and learn and teach People and create communities there.

[@PK-zo9vx]

@@natediaz1863 We can talk about colleges being overpriced and predatory loan offices. But it is an absolute fact that the average college graduate's salary is way more than the average high school graduate. An overwhelming amount of CEO's of top companies all have multiple degrees with masters and PhDs on top of that. Our education system is no where near perfect but telling your young impressionable audience that its a scam is just wrong and possbly harmful. You can end up with 200k of debt in med or law school (which you have to attend college first before you go).. are those a scam? You can lead a happy and fulfilling life without college, but if your goal is to make a crap ton of money, there are very few choices that match going for any average person.

[@6root91]

I love how almost everyone here is having a somewhat intelligent conversation and are relatively good listeners. Then there's sneako. Don't get me wrong, he listens, but then it all leaves his mind the moment he opens his mouth.

[@GameCriticNoob]

Imma be honest, if we can't have a single conversation with Sneako where he actually listens to a single statement, i'd rather we just go back to the lefty arc.

[@arizonaanalog389]

He's insufferable and clearly farming negativity. He has no plans on changing. Either life will whoop his ass and change him or he'll eternally be a knucklehead

[@phantasticmrphasma9874]

All he can hear is what he’s aiming to hear. Psychopathy is interesting

[@mass_stay_tapped_in528]

This was extremely frustrating I’m glad I’m not the only one that felt this way. For someone who’s extremely critical of the things others do, he’s not very receptive to criticisms of himself. It’s difficult to listen to.

[@ethan-scott]

He’s trying to pull Sneako from his extremism. I think he sees a lot of himself in Sneako from Destiny’s early conservative years. You can see him in other debates really trying to play nice with him in order for Sneako to let his guard down.

[@PinwheelNation]

Sneako is still more intelligent than the vast majority of lefties Destiny has argued with lol. They also seem to be worse people on a personal level most of the time despite the fact that I probably agree with them on more things politically than I do with people like Sneako and the Fresh N Fit guys

[@Nikifuj908]

44:43 Irony doesn't get much better than Sneako saying, "Everybody in my chat wants to be exceptional."

[@jimazing1]

Actually Sneako makes a pretty good point. He’s literally got no cool life experiences, nothing interesting to say except for takes he copies from other online personalities, and he still has a audience he can live off of. If he can do it it does make me feel like literally anyone can.

[@loopymomy2532]

Super true infact anyone can. As long as they get a camera and have a good background. All they have to do is watch videos in the subject and then make videos regurgitating the same subject

[@TheZubaz]

He's a decent looking kid and does have a certain energy that not everyone can replicate. But yeh thats about it

[@roguevirgo902]

This is the problem of possibility vs plausibility. Yes it’s possible anyone can, but the issue is that it isn’t plausible and reliable to take a paid course to do it.

[@christofthedead]

Literally anyone can be successful following that business model. There's literally hundreds of thousands of other people on youtube/tiktok who did the same thing as sneako & didn't become successful. It's the same as every other profession (music, art, etc), or buying lottery tickets, it's low percentage & luck based

[@flyingmantis-u9u]

"Do it" for how long? 5 years? 10 years? The vast majority of even "successful" online careers peak within 5-7 years and then begin slow or rapid decline within 10-15 years. An engineer or surgeon increases their skill set and compensation every year, with huge milestones every decade. There is 0 comparison between the benefits of real world success vs online "success" for 99.99% of people.

[@mikeball1397]

“U dont need school””its safer not wearing a seatbelt” both quotes from Sneako

[@MarieAntoinetteandherlittlesis]

This sums him up perfectly.

[@womenstriving8960]

It’s baffling 😂

[@othus123]

I generally don't like Destiny, but he is right here. Someone has to flip the burgers and for every success story out there, there's a thousand corpses that died trying.

[@ethancarey7476]

Ha, I don't think that was *quite his message but point taken. The real takeaway should be Sneako is, in general, a priveleged and grifty POS and Destiny's heart and mind are generally in the right place

[@othus123]

@@ethancarey7476 I don't think sneako's heart is in the wrong place, cause in his mind, everyone can become great. the thing is, he's factually wrong.

[@DyingToLive1987]

@@othus123 anyone can be great.. but not everyone will be great. Sneako is right on with that message.

[@jakobpbengtsson3608]

@@othus123 The issue with where sneako's heart is is how he views people who stay "plugged in". There's a lot of condescending shit, calling people failures for having regular jobs or regular educations. Doesn't seem like someone with their heart in the right place.

[@matthewhamilton2913]

@@DyingToLive1987 but when his definition of being great is being the generic online influencer shit, he's not right

[@theWhoandtheBeattles]

As a professional musician who didn't finish my degree, I can say that Degrees in the realm of music is HIGHLY valuable! The fact that this person continuously bashes the idea of people getting a quality education, and throwing everything into something that is majorly based on luck, is sickening. Getting an education in anything, gets your foot in the door with people that are currently successful, doing what you are striving to do. I guess in Sneakos case, they didn't teach active listening in High School.

[@Artisbeauty22]

I agree and disagree with having a degree for music only because my husband has been a musician for years, and never gave up on it he's started a band and everything while working a "mind numbing" job, like sneako says 🙄 but now he's playing at open mic nights at bars which is a gateway to earning money for it. But he's also making money and putting it into it he has band practice in his studio 3 days outta the week. I agree that he'd probably get more out of college however he's a lot like most people when it comes to school, which is fine because he's an amazing musician and he's mastered his craft for years. That's all it really takes is mastering the craft.

[@Kuroganemk2]

I'd say its 50/50, what is more important is the drive of the person. Plus there are so many shitty schools and degrees out there that could trap you in debt and no job after you finish it. I don't know if Destiny is ignoring those or something? Like yea, if you get to the top 10% schools then its probably almost guaranteed that you'll get a job, if you go to one of the average ones, not as much.

[@kaaiwilliams3629]

Here’s my thing…. If degrees are so valuable, why didn’t you finish school to complete yours ?

[@BlueDirt_ProAggressive]

Sneako called his dad an npc bot stuck in the matrix. Pretty messed up. He lived his life doing what he had to, stuff down his dreams for the responsibility to raise his family. He could have left like some musicians and artists do.

[@darrenmayfield]

Destiny was spitting the entire time. This convo ended when destiny said “then if your chat are leaders they wouldn’t be on this stream at 9:30..” I was like yep time to pack it up

[@djiango9307]

I wish Destiny brought up community college, certification courses, continuing education, and trade schools as more affordable educational paths. Sneako recognizes that the problem with traditional universities is the huge time/money commitment and overall unpreparedness of fresh-out-of-high school students. I think only giving 2 choices to young folk, either drop $60k and 4 years of your early 20s on college or spend 2 months self-learning to earn $1000/hr, are both unsustainable for different reasons. It's totally fine if an 18 yr old is questioning whether they want to go to college or not. If you have no idea what you want to study or what career you're working towards, going to college with no plan is not a safe or intelligent idea.

[@Dripx-]

Fax. Finally someone that understands a mix of the two ideologies is much better.

[@ixonite]

I'm a computer science engineer drop out, I knew I wanted to pursue that career when I was 18 because I had an innate curiosity about how computers worked and I was already learning programming prior to college. However I did not finish college and dropped out to start my business with 2 other friends I met at college. The problem was.. those old people that are teaching you for the most part have 0 idea how things work practically when you graduate and look for a job. Also the amount of clueless people that can graduate from a cse program is baffling. These people that graduate with almost no knowledge to how things actually work in the industry will have to relearn the necessary stuff from their company. Wasting 4 years of your life just to be guided about some out of date bs and impractical theory that has low to no value in the real industry is not that smart. On top of that you'll be in debt. What I'm saying is college does not work the way people think it works. I think we should move away from this idea that people should attend to college to get the job and find new solutions to guide young people without forcing them into deciding if they should commit to a huge loan at the age of 18.

[@migjordanpayawal7856]

Ultimately, as long as you get to use your degree and you find the end career as more or less fulfilling, then I think you'll be fine. STEM and Healthcare provide great career options with different costs and time investments, through university. Sure, we need to inform the younger generation on how to cut costs with these things like doing prereqs in community college, utilizing shorter bachelor programs if you want to get to med school, etc.

[@exdeus5940]

His comment lacked nuance. If you had dreams of being a rock star or basketball player, those in those professions would at least tell you to follow your dreams but get a degree as a backup plan. His explanation for why people shouldn't follow his route, makes him sound like, for lack of a better term, a narcissist. And you're right; the fact that he didn't mention community college or trade school seems suspicious. I might be jumping to conclusions, but it gives me the vibe that he looks down on trade school or continuing ed. He'd probably get along more with a communications major than a plumber, even if the former was 100k in debt and the latter was making 100k a year.

[@djiango9307]

@@exdeus5940 I don't get the sense that he looks down on trades. Wasn't he a carpet cleaner for a number of years? I think he wasn't really prepared to talk about education so he defaulted to what he knows is a traditional path to success, which is a 4 year degree.

[@Graffiti0001]

A chat fully of leaders, yet they all are following what this man says 👏 Well played

[@SunGodNika-ws9zu]

Only sneako views himself w this “leader” mentality… everyone else says you can’t leave the Mattix”… your always going to be a slave and you will always rely on something example the sun … Why do you think so many civilizations praised the sun ….

[@kevintheshane]

Everyone has to find their own way in life, but I’ll say this; you gotta know what makes you happy. I was happy when I waited tables for no money and I was happy when I got my first big boy post college job. A few years of living the happy waiter life while making the college money, and now I’m virtually free from financial concern for the rest of my life. I’m sure Sneako’s path has made him very happy and secure too. And that’s great. But my path is easily repeatable. His probably isn’t.

[@xbabu142x]

This is the difference between imparting wisdom and selling a pipe dream. Glad you found yourself a path and are willing to be upfront about how unglamorous the grind is. I would say half the satisfaction is knowing you built this for yourself? Regardless of the luck required in parts. For me it is anyway, wondering your thoughts on this?

[@kevintheshane]

@@xbabu142x I mean, I’m lucky in a million ways. Lucky to be born in America. Lucky to have two parents who were in my life. Being rich gives me a little satisfaction. Working my job gives me some too because it’s engaging and challenging. But largely, work and money are just part of what beings satisfaction. I get a lot of personal satisfaction out of being a good friend and husband, helping people out, reading, hiking, playing video games, traveling, etc. The career and money are helpful in that they enable those things. But I don’t need them to be a good friend or to read books, or really to play video games. These are all pretty cheap. Money makes travel more fun, but traveling on the cheap is fun in its own way too.

[@lifeunderthestarstv]

Yes. The problem is a guy trying to gain fame and cash off kids convincing them that they can all fill those roles in society. It's the same old everyone can get rich crap.

[@lanceshuler1487]

I think the problem is that Sneako and his editor can't comprehend that people can work desk jobs and be happy. Not everyone has to make millions or be famous. Some of us are perfectly happy working a 9-5, cooking food, spending time with their loved ones, etc. In reality people don't really know what they want until they try it, and having structure is kind of a blessing.

[@Benmya]

One quote comes to mind every time I hear sneako speak or see a clip of him. “Wise Men Speak Because They Have Something To Say; Fools Because They Have To Say Something” - Plato

[@gurusage142]

Fun fact, Miles Davis went to Juilliard. He didn’t graduate, but it was a vehicle to get him on the scene with Charlie Parker. Horrible example from sneako and I wish Destiny knew that to push back

[@Gr33nPhoenix]

"I want people to pay for my courses so I can teach them how to do this online thing" "Why would anyone pay for school if you can find everything for free online" Then why would anybody pay for your course?? The point is counter initiative to his own goals

[@mrmclovin5971]

Sneakos argument is "EVERYONE can" and that if you change your mindset then you can get that drive to do the KZbin dream job, so someone needs to tell Sneako that if every single human growing up in this world ages 20 and under watches his content, takes his advice, changes their mindset, and becomes a KZbinr, or a movie star, or a editor, then all the sudden everyone in the world is a creator, where are all the consumers gonna come from? Now that everyone is a creator there's no more viewers.

[@Slymufasa1510]

They brought that up, he didn’t get it

[@womenstriving8960]

You don’t know sneako 😂 nothing enters his thick skull… trust me they’ve tried over and over again, it’s like a curse. He doesn’t get it

[@katrinathatsit]

While also saying MOST people who take his course will fail 😂 so I guess “everyone can” take his class, but everyone can’t adopt his mindset

[@mrmclovin5971]

@@katrinathatsit the reason for failure would be for the exact reason I said, there won't be any viewers, everyone will be busy creating and then it will collapse and everyone would give up and turn away from sneakos teachings due to the fact that it didn't work

[@HamsterWheelGaming]

Hey guys Sneako here, I'm gonna explain how I made it in my little echo chamber and how its applicable for every single type of youtuber/influencer out there

[@pumpkin1escobar]

Sneako is the definition of spoiled kid that didn't have to work for anything in life but got lucky.

[@Otiomz]

you dont get it he is a professional scratch off lottery player he is up big just pay for his course and you can scratch tickets and be a millionaire 2

[@dianp4824]

He lives off of speaking for tate and tristan and they pay him cause they deliver their message through him. Collateral DPS.

[@Rich-ms8dm]

Giving every opportunity, living off of others and thinks he did it all himself lol

[@thrash208]

He didnt get lucky he understands the algorythm

[@muhammadaulia5298]

Get lucky? Bro he's main channel was different than every creator who only stream ass lazy and critics everyone in internet.

[@draszi]

The editor is leagues ahead of sneako. The fact he's able to recognize good points and actually admit that is VERY mature. I don't think I was that mature at his age. He has a calm demeanour, reasonable, not boastful. Sneako can learn a lot from him

[@militantwest]

being an online marketer myself, its a breath of fresh air to get someone in one of these calls who verifiably knows what theyre talking about. 19 year old kid killed it while remaining polite 🙏🏼

[@nineteen96]

Facts

[@commondirtbagz7130]

In fairness sneako has money at stake

[@Not_Pulsus]

I think, in reality, Sneako is just another income stream for the more successful editor.

[@Era-lk1lo]

I like his stance but he keeps using anecdotal evidence. Nearly every question he answered he started with "I have a friend''. He also clearly doesn't agree university is a scam, he even agrees with Muta that it's smarter to get a degree and then chase your dreams but he won't directly say it because it opposes Sneakos views. His point is everyone can do it but it's a narrow view. It's like the American dream where they tell every kid you could be the next president of America, this is true but it's also unrealistic. I think everyone should look up education and average annual earning statistics to see how it would be bizarre to tell someone to drop out of college, the average earning of a college drop out defined on the chart as someone with "some college education" is less than half of someone with a "professional degree"

[@Danny_LDS]

76% of billionaires have a degree, 88% of millionaires do

[@ShinobiDaNinja]

Sneako: I don't think I'm smarter then the people in my chat By far the truest thing he's ever said.

[@MzSoulll]

lmao

[@manolismakrogkikas7452]

The saxophone part was pure shining idiocy and I loved it. SNEAKO HOW THE FUCK YOU GONNA NETWORK YOUR WAY INTO LEARNING AN INSTRUMENT???!!!

[@kingmunchtv]

😂 KZbin

[@sesmith314]

Talk to local musicians, go to local shows, talk to people in music stores (where instruments are sold), and surround yourself with people that are in that scene. This is said by someone that worked his way into the music scene long before the internet was a thing.

[@casualverse]

Imagine having to explain anything to sneako, that must be agonizing on an unimaginable level. With his DSLs.

[@MegaFIare]

So agonizing, Destiny just gets hundreds in donations at the same time

[@casualverse]

@@MegaFIare the church method. They are paying for mans' sins my child.

[@WhatTheSpock]

"DSLs" wow, i haven't head that in years lmao

[@mmgvii8076]

take it easy, nas lol nigga said "DSLs"

[@MrYounis26]

Pretty gay to judge another man's lips

[@TheAdrinachrome1]

Would you rather live in a world filled with youtubers and editors or a world filled with engineers 🤔

[@Ram-zm6og]

There would be no youtubers without engineers lol

[@fozzt]

@@Ram-zm6og how?

[@Ram-zm6og]

Who built computers? Who developed software for KZbin? If KZbin servers crashed and engineers didn't repair them, what would happen to KZbinrs?

[@Ubel_hope]

Engineers

[@Uwhwvwgwh]

​@@fozzt bro you really felt the need to do yourself like that

[@unclebobboomergames]

Listening to sneako...a literal manchild...trying to lecture adults about career and future oriented mindsets is...its a thing. Thats for sure

[@boywithanearring]

"literal manchild" bro i agree with u but post nothing but videos about video games that get 0 views 😭😭 are you really one to talk

[@andrewcox5873]

@@boywithanearring he’s following the creativity kit, Sneako says if he keeps at it he’ll leave the matrix

[@unclebobboomergames]

@@boywithanearring im the perfect one to talk. Because to me i have the perfect life. I bave two girlfriends in my home. I have a son and a daughter. I work enough to pay our bills and on the side i get play oldass games that i love for fun. Success and fulfillment doesnt mean what sneako seems to think for everyone. Id say having a side hobby thats for fun makes my life even more a blast. It forces me to actually finish games. If i wanted to turn this successful playing retro games wouldnt be the path. Id be playing whatever normie bait is popular and attracts an audience.

[@Darkmortal100]

@@boywithanearring zoomer thinks only views matter omegalul no one can upload for themselves

[@Shadowh8ter]

@@secondeye1574 Shouldn't throw stones in glass houses lol. Telling fat people they shouldn't be fat is the correct position to take, but nobody wants to hear it from someone whose 400 pounds. If someone wants to call someone a man child who shouldn't be talking to adults about business, probably don't wanna hear that from a dude who makes dead retro game reviews, especially when talking about a dude whose insanely successful and is doing very well for himself.

[@seasonalserotonin2559]

Destiny is so above Sneako in maturity, intelligence and experience. How he manages to remain so calm while listening to absolute garbage is impressive. Maybe it's entertaining for him idk. Made this comment before watching beyond 40min. Gets heated but I'm all for it

[@ggzyt_livitup3898]

Wow its almost like destiny is much older than sneako

[@seasonalserotonin2559]

@@ggzyt_livitup3898 Not sure if my comment implied he wasn't. Just an amusing combo to witness.

[@mmgvii8076]

>how he manages to stay so calm lol that comes with the maturity

[@ggzyt_livitup3898]

@@seasonalserotonin2559 i was just trying to joke around i hope everyone who watches can tell he is older

[@seasonalserotonin2559]

@@mmgvii8076 Maturity doesn't always equal incredible composure. Still easy to lose one's shit. Certainly helps though.

[@Aboguaboga]

Here’s an interesting fact about entrepreneurs 95% of business owners have a bachelors degree or higher And Average age of a business owner is about 45 or 55 (don’t remember exactly which one) I was doing exactly what destiny is saying, I would sit my ass down for up to 10 hrs a day to learn to code and working on a project but at the end, when it came down to the actual programming part and being efficient with layouts and stuff like that, I was absolutely trash, I was improving drastically with html and css but when it came to the actual programming like javascript, Php, Python, etc, i could not figure out where or how to incorporate it to make the website user friendly let alone make the website look modern. A teacher would be extremely helpful in scenarios like that, and whether u want to believe it or not, most ppl don’t like doing the things they like to do 24/7 It’s like if you love pizza and ate everyday for months, you’ll eventually get tired of it. That’s why most ppl don’t make it pro in sports or online

[@austindreyer108]

"I know more people that went broke on crypto than I know people who went broke from a STEM degree" is a hard line lmao

[@Nikifuj908]

I hope Aba never stops chiming in to Destiny's streams. He always brings a convo back down to Earth. Please please please don't let him be cancelled or burn his bridge 🙏

[@phillippowell6627]

@@avacadocap9591 really, What makes you think that?

[@Nothing_but_a_Rookie]

idk how they'd burn their bridge, they're both legit reasonable people

[@xbabu142x]

It's kind of hard to burn the Aba bridge with online stuff tbf

[@loopymomy2532]

@@phillippowell6627 because destiny doesn't involve in burning bridges no matter how much he disagrees or does not like someone. He even helps people who are publically crap. So if they cross paths away from each other it has to be ABA. Because destiny is willing to amend things with people and talk to them normally and get over differences.

[@crayothewarrior7713]

@@loopymomy2532 sounds like Destiny is your hero

[@Juleslane11]

If you can fall back on your parents, it’s because they are the ones who got a degree, got a skill set or “plugged into the matrix”. But these guys want to “unplug” while depending on the matrix. 😂

[@PitchBlackYeti]

Someone needs to explain the Pareto principle to Sneako. Also Sneako was just as lucky as Destiny was, there are thousands, maybe millions of people just like him except he was there at the right moment and place for the algorithms to find him. The difference is Destiny sees it while Sneako attributes all his success purely to himself.

[@phantasticmrphasma9874]

Read my new self help book to get rich: How i picked the winning lottery numbers

[@ChaosKnuxxx]

Sneako knows it, the issue with his thinking is he ONLY applies it to "80% of women pursue 20% of the men!"

[@boogie8586]

@@ChaosKnuxxx Jesus christ is that seriously how he uses it?

[@ChaosKnuxxx]

@@boogie8586 ohh yeah lol. It's been my gripe with the red pill ideology and also why I appreciate destiny taking it on and challenging it

[@Seri-dy5dd]

True. These people are so insufferably arrogant and delusional.

[@drewtate5409]

I boxed for 20. Years, put in the work, trained like a f... Lunatic and still didn't make it. Hell, 99.99% of people who did the same sh. As me, trained as hard as I did, didn't make it either. Sure we won some regional trophies but didn't become the next Floyd Mayweather. It's not only about having the mindset, hardwork and connections,because we did. It's just in the genes. And I find that boxing is a perfect example because unlike making videos and posting them on KZbin, fighting has to be taken completely seriously, because if you don't, you can literally die in a ring. People like sneako are spoiled dmbasses that think that as long as you put in the work you'll eventually make it. Sad news, you most likely won't.

[@jazeroliversy673]

@@b.a3595 bro how old are you

[@adreto2978]

@@b.a3595 No we can just tell you have no experience in the real world.

[@JimmyTheNuge]

@@b.a3595 you damn right you never worked a real job in your life

[@adreto2978]

@@b.a3595 Yea cause you don't understad that adults cant just up and grind drop shopping because they have things called responsibilities.

[@sebadbt7410]

@@b.a3595 you are

[@Lacquerhead211]

it's amazing to see Sneako on the Emergency Meeting after this and Andrew Tate say people should go to college lol

[@e77gma]

I was waiting for this comment 😂

[@patmacrotch5611]

If Sneako was born in the 70s he would be saying "learn guitar, start a band, and make tons of money! its so easy!"

[@harry426]

Money for nothing and chicks for free.

[@obsidiancrow450]

at least that would get you some bitches

[@Tellion12]

I think the part sneako and his editor has mixed up is that theyre trying to say EVERYONE can do this. EVERYONE can't, ANYONE can. And Destiny and co are arguing that, on behalf of the MASSES OF PEOPLE that are watching, it is WAY MORE LIKELY that ANY INDIVIDUAL going to post secondary will set themselves up for success at a much higher probability than ANY INDIVIDUAL taking the sneako course. It's an EVERYONE versus ANYONE argument. The masses watching are individuals. Most won't be able to do it. It is unethical to promise to EVERYONE that they will be successful if they take the course.

[@Slymufasa1510]

That one word change from EVERYONE to ANYONE just might change his mind if he heard it

[@itsvmmc]

Sneako is bringing up a non-argument. Just like Destiny said, there's no point of arguing against it because we need to pay attention to what happens, not what CAN happen.

[@petitealix]

Sneako is infuriating as a person. Disrespectful and he just doesn’t listen to people before talking. He just screams his opinion at them in the hope that they will change their mind. This kid needs to get properly humbled.

[@nineteen96]

Facts

[@NoRockinMansLand]

No thanks

[@DontCallMeAaron]

Aba actually had a lot of good moments in this vid. I wish more people were okay with this form of content in their everyday lives so that they could understand the value of talking to one another

[@DontCallMeAaron]

@@diobrando6910 I almost stopped rocking with him tbh. I liked him on his channel but it did feel like they started dipping their toes into the manosphere until the Destiny and sneako arc

[@vveerrxx]

As a person looking for direction in life, I genuinely value Destiny’s thoughts on college.

[@xbabu142x]

Try to keep costs as minimal as possible. However the habits college teaches you, especially if you're earnest in your learning and the networking you acquire when you showcase you are earnest in your learning and branch out are the invaluable parts of college to me personally. You need to go to college to learn, not party, otherwise you will not make the right friends.

[@ReynoldsCJ]

Go to an in state school unless you need a highly specialized degree, the tuition difference is massive. You can also knock off some gen eds more cheaply at a community college before you start major classes, especially important if you don't know what degree you want because you can cheaply explore options.

[@voLumez]

Ew no not Destiny, he has some based takes here and there but don't hinge your lifestyle on his opinion/mantras

[@justlooking1087]

Good because he is right, all of the research suggests that University graduates have better outcomes on average that non-graduates (including the self employed). This is literally my field of work and I’ve never seen any research that suggests otherwise (in the UK, but it’s the same in the US as well). Very intelligent, high achievers who go into work (usually STEM related work) after the compulsory school age are the only group of non-graduates that have labour market outcomes equal to that of graduates. Other factors are important as well: having a clear career plan, the subject studied, the quality of degree etc.

[@bradtaylor77]

@@justlooking1087 research also suggests 40% of people drop out of college and 85% of people hate their job. Destiny and your advise only applies to a certain group of people. Personally I hated school, I ended up leaving when I was 16, I also hated my job which I worked at for 14 years. I remember having panic attacks driving into work because I was so miserable. In 2007 I had enough, I moved to Bali, where I now live with my wife and 2 kids, we run a number of different businesses and are doing really well. Although I agree with Destiny on most things I think Sneako's message resonates with me a lot more. I think the majority of people on this planet do not want to be plugged into system, I think we want to have financial freedom and a regular 9-5 job working for someone else does not give us that.

[@docbenway1082]

Sneako's editor seems much more intelligent than him, but if he really thinks "most people in the west" can live off of their parents while they chase their dreams, that just shows how privileged he is (despite thinking his computer programmer father is a loser and a bot).

[@budder2000]

I’m surprised destiny didn’t say anything about how he comes from a complete place of privilege. He wouldn’t be anywhere without sneako

[@marcsman07]

Muta's point @ 1:10:02 is super true. Sneako is waaaay too reductive when he says college is a scam. Degree choice matters. School choice matters. There's a difference between going to NYU with no scholarships and paying 50K+ a year vs doing the same degree at a community college or some other closer equally good school for less so that you don't come out of college with 100k+ in debt.

[@marcsman07]

@Jessie Exactly! If you can go for free, then go!

[@plnit2784]

@@marcsman07 I'd only go if it were free, degrees can be valuable but it's such a cynical way of living, going to school for a degree to prove you can do something rather than learning it more efficiently otherwise, people thinking they can pay 100k of debt in a year as if they are going to make that much in a year and aren't going to save 10% of their wage, it takes decades to pay off debt sometimes, for online LECTURES that are on KZbin,

[@marcsman07]

@@plnit2784 Again, it REALLY depends on the subject matter, degree choice, and what you want your career to actually be. For some subjects, including specialized STEM ones, youtube lectures ain't gunna cut it, and you simply can't "learn more efficiently otherwise" outside of a structured college experience. To your point though, all learning opportunities after highschool aren't just limited to the college experience. If you're not skillbuilding in other ways (youtube, udemy etc.) in or out of college, then you're missing out. IMO 100k+ in debt ain't worth it unless you're going for some career track that is damn near 99% guaranteed to earn you near 100k/yr out of the gate.

[@adnanomer9089]

If my doctor told me " I dropped out of college but don't worry.. I spent a lot of time with other doctors" I'm running away

[@damanibrown3021]

Sneako doesn't understand that success is subjective. You could be a blue collar worker and be much happier than a multi millionaire. Like Destiny and Muta were saying. We all have a boss and no one is truly independent. The stones that sit on the top of the mountain are not more important than the ones that form the base.

[@kevaughn69]

34:11 As a gamer, as someone who has lead raids and as someone who has had to take command when raids have gone left, Destiny gets a WHOLE standing ovation from me.

[@kevaughn69]

@throwaway3873 your response is noted and the attention you ordered is on its way. 👍

[@JamesBur]

i can smell this comment. eww

[@kevaughn69]

@@JamesBur tell you what - It's been almost a year. Since you need attention, I'll hook you up. Would you like a spicy retort or did you envision a gentle back-and-forth? Help me to help you. 🙂

[@avivastudios2311]

​@@JamesBur Are you 14?

[@AnaOhKay]

@@JamesBur bro said eww

[@inxiti]

Sneako's probably one of the more spoiled people I can remember being on stream. Good for him though. Having good parents who will support your choices early on is a giant boost as most people could succeed in that way if they had someone supporting them while they tried, and a giant win in life even if your "dream" doesn't work out. Most people don't have the time to chase their "dreams", they have bills to pay, mouths to feed, children to raise, and they have matured, and likely have found new "dreams" that better fit who they are as an adult, and not just who they were as a child. I put dreams in quotes because as a man that young, his dream is childish, and that's admirable in its own way, not every keeps the same childhood dream. I'm not a super hero even in spite of how much charity I've done. It's not like he's aspiring to be a physicist, or chemical or mechanical engineer, he wants to be famous like the Kardashian's are famous, for the sake of it, and for the sake of "not being a bot." It's a little sad he doesn't realize, yet, that he's displaying the most bot like behavior of anyone I've ever seen on Destiny's streams, or in his videos. Everyone who thinks they are funny, and have an audience who thinks they are funny are suddenly "comedians" when in reality they are just content creators. It's like they are ashamed to admit they are KZbinrs, I think it's because deep down they know that for the vast majority of KZbinrs, it's not a respectable career. Being a KZbinr is a career that appeals to primarily a younger audience. Of course, you can be a KZbinr who appeals to an older audience, I'm merely stating that's not the usual case. I don't see Sneako honing his craft in comedy clubs every single night. I don't see him reading the books that would genuinely make him a better man. I don't see him doing a lot of charity with his platform to help others, and I only mention that because of his claim that he wants to help people escape the Matrix. Fuck that, help people escape poverty, and let them live the life they choose, and not the life you think is best. Performing charity with the requirement that those being helped do exactly what you say isn't charitable, ie: donating money but insisting that the person does not buy X, or Y. Sneako is "donating money" to his viewers, with the information that could be helpful if he did a better job of it, but, he does so with the requirement that they must live the life that he deems good. He's the type of Christian that tips a fake $20 with writing on the opposite side stating "Want a real tip? Come to our church. Salvation is worth more than money." If the Christians believed that then they would tip money, and then mention salvation. The "tip" itself proves that money is worth more because they won't give that, they opt to instead give the worthless "tip." His understanding of the Matrix, is beyond childish. It's extremely frustrating, and offensive. Suggesting that people gave up on their childhood dreams because they opted instead to build a stronger family is a direct slap to the face of his parents, of which he suggested that his father gave up on, I believe, playing guitar, when in reality Sneako's success hinges entirely on his father "giving up on his dream" because without having done so his father would have been far more likely to have been a starving artist, and our dear Sneako would've began working at 15-16 years old in order to help support his family, like so many others, including myself, had to. Being able to work on being a content creator that early in life, all the time, with no real responsibilities is something that not many can do; he's super lucky, and he seems to be super thankful to his parents even if he acts as if others don't need what he needed to succeed. It's easy to say "just get to the mountain top" when you have a shepherd hand-holding you the whole way, let alone those who are helicoptered to the top. It still took long hours to do what he did but, it was mostly luck. Any time you find success in a field, especially early in life, and you aren't at the absolute top of that field due to excessive hard work, or being a genuine prodigy(he's "funny" but, not in the sense that he's regularly laugh out loud hilarious, or has mass appeal as his humor appeals only to very young people, 10-16 years old, he's not Chappelle), it's usually due to being extremely lucky more than anything else. Being lucky is a good thing. Being lucky is not bad, I have no idea why he's so against admitting he was lucky. On the other hand, being lucky, he needs to realize that most people genuinely aren't that lucky. There are people doing exactly what he's doing, much better, who just weren't lucky, shit happens. Sneako is afraid to admit that his success wasn't entirely his own, he's deathly afraid of it. It's like a leader waging war, and having won, in spite of all of the atrocious decisions, based purely on numbers, superior technology, and the enemy making countless mistakes, who after the war is won announces that they are a military genius, and that the war was won solely thanks to their decisions. Getting lucky is a critical part of success, how lucky you get on the other hand is debatable but, it's always a part of it even if that part is as small as "having a far greater than average intelligence, and work ethic, and being born in the right place, at the right time, and also having good bone structure with no disabilities." Sneako admires, and wants to be Peter Pan, or, more appropriately to him, and his audience, if he were a character in the Matrix, he would be Cypher, not Neo, and most certainly not Morpheus. Neo was gifted his abilities whereas Morpheus had to work, every day, to free others, and he got nothing in return. Sneako wants something in return, he wants $50 a month. Sneako was freed by others, and did everything he could to insist that what he really wants, being in the Matrix living a cushy life, is "truly the most freedom" when in reality he's lying to himself. "I can beat up everyone, I just choose not to because I don't want to go to jail for manslaughter, my hands are dangerous weapons." He's constantly lying, if not to the audience then to himself. If Sneako truly wants to unplug then he should buy land in the middle of Montana, and start a self-sustaining farm, and unplug from everything.

[@erenyeeagah204]

Sneako actually wants to be an artist and make movies. Look at his main channel. His second channel shneako is a side husstle to become financially independent, in his words. And he wants to take people with him along the way. He used to do standup comedy too but found that streaming is much more efficient for what he wants to do. he can be funny and entertaining, has more freedom, and reaches a broader audience while also making more money. His audience is mostly people his age and younger so its about getting these people to become financially independent because most teens don't have bills to pay or children to raise . They scroll on tiktok for 6 hours after school when they could be learning a high income skill. It's a lot less risky than when you're older because you have no real responsibilities and you have your parents and school as a safety net. I guess this is why there is this disconnect because it seems destinys audience is much older and social media wasnt really the same when they were young.

[@thethoughtsexpansionpodcas9562]

well said. the real "leave the matrix" people are the ones off media, self sustaining on land away from society living in small towns with average income and happy lives. they're just words he uses as part of this weird culture he's involved in. its the 1% claiming the 99% can be the 1% while not admitting they make all their money off the 99% believing that they can become the 1% and in reality end up in the same if not a worse position 5-10 years down the road. if you want proper advice get off the internet, read some books, develop a skill and provide value through service to society. this gives your life purpose and fulfillment without draining your time , money and energy into these clowns on the internet using your screen time as a cash cow.

[@harold926]

yeah i found it really odd how he is trying to portray himself and his story as someone who came from nothing and if he can do it then anyone can do it. Only to then find out in the erudite interview that he was actually really well off. both parents together happily married, he went to private school where even though he wasn't rich he grew up in an enviorment surrounded by rich kids in mansions that had their own elevators etc. And that his own father basically gave up on his own dream and chose to support and commit to the family and that he was able to start his youtube career as young as 14 AND being supported by his father. I'm not shitting on his achievement he is a really hardworking and driven dude but it looks so odd when he tries handwave away or doesn't acknowledge the advantages he had early in his life and the sacrifices OTHER people made for him. And that if other people will try to replicate his succes 95%+ of them will fail horribly and waste possibly years of their life and a lot of money. I can agree that certain parts of schooling in the US can be a bit of a scam or massive money waster, yes working for a boss can suck, yes having work hours decided for you can suck. But overall it will have a much higher succes chance and overall a more stabel life compared to sneako which advocates for a path that so few people can succeed in long term that it almost becomes unethical imo. Any youtuber in their right mind when asked by fans if they should become a youtube/streamer would answer something along the lines of "at least finish your current education first, do it for fun, don't expect succes to the point you can do it as a full time job because you'll most likely never get to that point" Its also quite funny how he is saying he isn't "rich" dispite nearly or already having already paid off his student loan debt at 23 when a lot of other people will be paying that off untill their late 30's or even 40's

[@tariqo16]

bro all this with no tldr

[@boogie8586]

Pls tldr I'm retarded and can't read long