Wild Thing at Valleyfair - ERS with no trim brakes!

[@jamessanders6223]

2:51 there were sparks coming from the breaks, under the track.

[@davidjellis]

It was wild :-)

[@bjtgaming]

@@davidjellis What a wild thing

[@johnfoltz8183]

Hyper Coaster 1 has broken down.

[@woodencoasterfan]

That was incredible. I've only experienced it once on a spinning wild mouse without any trims and that was incredible so I can imagine what that was like.

[@davidjellis]

It made a huge difference to the ride...with the trims on it was just ok, but without those trims it was literally a wild thing...did you spot the ride ops sticking their fingers in their ears to block the sound of the squealing brakes. It was a memorable few rides and the staff were rightly thanked for the thrill.

[@chump4415]

I don’t know why but this video made me feel safe. Thank you so much for posting this! -sincerely a kid who’s laying in his bed at 2 am

[@CopeDnD]

I've had a couple time where the trims were off it makes the dark barn the best part

[@cofcoasters]

Not sure if you've heard or not but Mamba at Worlds of Fun is essentially running like this at all times now and the park seems hell bent on keeping it running this way indefinitely.

[@davidjellis]

Now THAT is good news 🙂

[@rollercoastercentral0808]

@@davidjelliswait I thought David passed ? Or is this a relative

[@davidjellis]

@@rollercoastercentral0808 Rumours of my death are greatly exaggerated 🙂 I am well and very much alive...perhaps you were thinking of Psyclone Steve, who sadly passed a few years back - really miss him as he was a good friend...but I am still here 🙂

[@rollercoastercentral0808]

@@davidjellis ohhh now I remember so sorry 😢 about this confusion, I remember him he was so nice on his channel and also theme park manics too , that guy is greatly missed

[@davidjellis]

He was a gentleman, good company and a lovely bloke...really miss him. Most of the footage I have from China in 2013 was filmed with him sitting next to me - we had the same camera too 🙂@@rollercoastercentral0808

[@Hypernukeleosis]

OH so THAT's what those mid ride brakes are called. I know they're needed, but it always felt that they kinda ruined the flow of the ride of the ones I've been on with them. Also man, even with an old analogue camera, you could still see some sparks fall at the end. I hope the operators didn't get in trouble like that one guy did (reminded of the pissed off operator who was quitting and turned off the coasters brakes for you guys, adding years of damage to the ride)

[@davidjellis]

I am not aware of any problems - was a fun riding session!

[@carlsmith2641]

On the wild thing we usually refer to them as the b block brakes

[@NickyD]

this would never fly now

[@jeffmarks1996]

what date did it filmed?

[@davidjellis]

I think it was 10 June

[@jeffmarks1996]

@@davidjellis What Year?

[@davidjellis]

It says the year in the video description 🙂@@jeffmarks1996

[@Demon_King890]

I love going on that ride every time i go to valley fair since i live in minnesota

[@duxofducks]

i've lived here my entire life (17 years) and not been on the ride... yet... how'd you say the ride is?

[@AmazingElevatorsandClaws]

How did you convince the ride op?

[@davidjellis]

To be honest I cannot recall the conversation now...so I wasn't sure if we had asked,. or if they had offered...but it was an insane experience and far better than the usual finish to the ride!

[@SebisRandomTech]

Once I got to ride the Jack Rabbit at Kennywood when the track was wet....so much more airtime. Now I can only imagine the Sky Rocket or Phantom's Revenge with the trims turned off. :)

[@davidjellis]

The Jack Rabbit is a really great coaster...lovely airtime on the double down drops!

[@journeytree]

Sebi's Random Tech KennyWood sucks, I went there once. The season pass costs more than a Kings Island season pass which makes no sense

[@MTVlogs]

I highly doubt they would do this again, it has had an accident in the past where a train car separated from the rest of the train at the last set of brakes, there's a video of the after math and you can see the last car separated. Failed brake mount struck the rear axle of the train's fifth car, causing the sixth car to detach from the train and de-rail on one side accident occurred in 2006

[@davidjellis]

I am just happy we got the chance to do it when we visited :-)

[@leDiachan]

+MTVlogs They do it every now and then still. Only for employees, though,

[@gobbleswells2883]

Thank goodness no one died that time...took me a long time to ride it after that lkl

[@carlsmith2641]

That was due to a faulty mounting bracket not the trim brakes turned off, although I’m not sure if they were on/off

[@carlsmith2641]

@@leDiachan there is no more button or switch on the new control panel

[@H3LPIV3FALL3N]

Everyone just going “wheeeay”

[@sunnysnowz200]

Wild thing is my favorite

[@falloutfan6649]

If they keep those breaks off all the time this is a really good hyper coaster. That finale is similar to Magnum at Cedar Point

[@davidjellis]

Yes I can see the similarity to Magnum in that part of the ride. It was much better without the trim brakes!!

[@linuislam7972]

I went on that ride its so fun because i live in Minnesota USA

[@davidjellis]

It was a lot more fun with the trim brakes off :-)

[@linuislam7972]

:D

[@TennesseeTravelers94]

They need to get magnetic breaks on this ride or get new cars so they could run it trim-less every time and give better forces.

[@carlsmith2641]

Yeah but that would cost a lot and everyone loves the wild thing already so

[@stephweckwerth2703]

Is this when valleyfair was just being built? Beacuse I don't see the steel venom?

[@davidjellis]

This was filmed in 1999 - Steel Venom opened 4 years later :-)

[@maxshelltrack9720]

Wild thing opened in 97 so no.

[@maxshelltrack9720]

I think valley fair was built in the seventies early eighties.

[@o.p.h.o.v.e.n]

ValleyFair opened in 1976. They has added a lot since.

[@joshthompson1755]

crazy not to see steel venom and the gocart track!

[@gracer1864]

What’s trim Breaks?

[@davidjellis]

Brakes designed to trim the speed of the roller coaster to stop it going too fast.

[@marvelousmari7278]

2:32 ;)

[@Fahrenheit4051]

I wonder if they'd be able to run it like this regularly if they had a magnetic brake run and the new 2-bench trains.

[@davidjellis]

An interesting point - and wouldn't that be cool :-)

[@maxshelltrack9720]

It seems like lt went faster when I rode it back in 2001 had they always had the trims on or did they have em off and just turned them on in the last few years.

[@carlsmith2641]

Recently a computer system was added to help operators and now there is no option on the control panel to turn the trim brakes off

[@bodsnvimto]

Thanks for that Dave, you know exactly where I just dashed over from to see this. (To everyone else reading this, if you haven't already watched it, check out his Outlaw through the station vids - it was equally sublime to be there.) A truly fantastic night but not as dark nor as wet as it has become in my mind's eye 23yrs later. It did rain pelters at some point during the ERS though didn't it?

[@davidjellis]

I can't recall rain, to be honest...I recall it drizzled first thing in the morning for the ERS on the old woodie, but everyone looks fairly dry in the station. The speed we hit those brakes after the trims were turned off...the sparks that flew off, such fun...that was what stuck in my head. One of the unique elements of that trip.

[@bodsnvimto]

@@davidjellis one other thing Dave, I definitely recognise the hands in the air immediately in front of you as belonging to Ryan. On that I'd wager my mortgage were I a betting man.

[@davidjellis]

@@bodsnvimto I think you might be right 🙂

[@TheNijn]

In what country is it

[@davidjellis]

USA - Valleyfair! park is in Minnesota

[@colin5541]

+davidjellis went there over MEA

[@wayne9005]

They’d get sued if they did this now. People standing all over the place, they didn’t have the air gates yet, looks fun

[@davidjellis]

The only reason there were people standing everywhere is that we had a private riding session after the park closed and it was the final train of the night so the entire group were waiting on the exit platform to say thanks to the staff. It was fun!

[@twistedcheese1]

@@davidjellis I wish they could do stuff like this agian. They used to ride shockwave backwards at drayton manor as well. Imagine if they increased the speeds of launches on events like this. It's a shame H&S is getting stupid now

[@davidjellis]

@@twistedcheese1 I have ridden Shockwave backwards - not the most comfortable ride experience but certainly unique. I agree, H&S is taking some of the fun out of rides.

[@sanidhyasharma1329]

What’s ERS?

[@davidjellis]

Exclusive Riding Session (basically where the park is closed and the ride is reserved just for our coaster club)

[@jakethecake6952]

What is the ERS? I know what a mid course is but not ERS.

[@davidjellis]

Exclusive Riding Session (where the coaster club had the ride to ourselves after the park closed)

[@fire_awake]

This is so nostalgic, I need to go back to shokepee

[@marvelousmari7278]

Not how you spell it btw

[@fire_awake]

@@marvelousmari7278 yea man spell it better next time

[@fire_awake]

lol i just went it fun as hell

[@bjj21]

Was this a test from the park? It just seems like it's all the same. Going there tomorrow lol. Now you got me nervous

[@davidjellis]

They did it as part of a private event - the brakes will be ON during public riding! Have fun.

[@carlsmith2641]

You might have seen me there working the wild thing

[@jitney_spears9709]

what are trims?

[@davidjellis]

They are brakes that slow the coaster down rather than stop it

[@patternaut8338]

Brakes to slow the train, otherwise known as a mid-cpurse brake run. On Wild Thing, the trim brakes are the ones right before all the bunny hills.

[@davidjellis]

Correct :-)That last section of the ride is SOOO different without the trims on!

[@ArtbyKurtisEdwards]

Usually, trim brakes are brakes that do not control a block section and are just used to trim the speed. You'll see little ones on bunny hills of BM Hypers. MCBR aren't always called trim brakes but more often called block brakes, but trim brakes is an interchangable term for both.

[@codylegodude659]

No steel venom... Weird lol

[@jekimb]

it is weird seeing valley fair with no steel venom, atleast it opened 4 years after this video was filmed.

[@SomeYTuser]

it looks so weird without steel venom there.

[@stormgirl09]

whats the point of trim breaks anyways? especially when they can turn them off...its like an invention invented by soccer moms...."if our children want to ride these "death traps" at least make them some what less rough and intense! to much of that may harm our children! i know lets install breaks to some what slow down the trains during the ride! at least we know for sure our kids will be safer. and safety is key!'

[@ethansmith9344]

girlstorm09 on wild thing they aren't trims, but it is a mid course break run. This makes it so they can run multiple trains at once while keeping it safe.

[@NerdismOfficial]

girlstorm09 Eh I think it’s because it puts a lot of stress on the track and trains Morgan (the manufacturer) uses. All Morgan hypers have vibe-killing MCBRs because of that.

[@carlsmith2641]

It’s to limit wear and tear on the final brakes and to make sure the train stops in time and doesn’t careen into the station

[@carlsmith2641]

@@ethansmith9344 fun fact, wild thing is the only coaster in the park that defaults with two trains

[@marvelousmari7278]

@@carlsmith2641 huh wat you mean?

[@carlsmith2641]

I work at valley fair, actually on the wild thing and they probably got yelled at by their supervisor for pulling that shit

[@davidjellis]

The event was a private function after the park closed - senior management were in attendance

[@psyclonesteve]

that was a great ERS ! and I can see myself ... WITH HAIR ! ;)

[@davidjellis]

Yes, I know...the shock of it all :-) Started out as a bog standard ERS until they turned the trims off...it then became one of RCCGB's most legendary coaster moments!

[@psyclonesteve]

Yeah, we were asking to have the trims off on everything ! :-)

[@matthewgs915]

Sorry if I sound stupid, but what does ERS stand for?

[@davidjellis]

exclusive riding session...where the coaster is just running for the club...closed to the public.

[@harleymama5421]

think that is awesomely they do that.

[@scsstudios]

Hm. If they redid the mix and ending service brakes and converted them to magnetic brakes and modern brakes, the ride might be able to run this way as part of its normal program... 🤔

[@davidjellis]

That would be excellent!

[@clintonstrang5578]

can you fall of it

[@davidjellis]

No - you cannot fall off (unless totally misbehaving!)

[@KittyBBQ461]

I hate going on here

[@wajdsulimanmaclover775]

Fist of all if u never bin to valleyfsir dont talk about it ive bin to valley fair many times there not CHEAP!?!?!?? EVERY SIGLE RIDE COSTS ABOUT 2 MILLION DOLLARS OR 7 MILLION DOLLARS so dont go blahbn somtnhimg u dont know

[@davidjellis]

Hi - to whom was the comment directed?

[@matthewgs915]

If this comment is directed towards me: Yes, I have been to Valleyfair. I go there several times a year. I just think that Valleyfair is cheap when compared to other Cedar Fair parks because Valleyfair's most expensive coaster (Wild Thing) cost $9.5 million, and that number is usually a lot higher at most CF parks.

[@davidjellis]

knightfan96 Don't worry - I have no idea who the comment was directed at, which is why I asked them the question...I can't see any comment that is consistent with the comments they made ??

[@SarahPToadstool]

knightfan96 Cedar Fair in the 1990s was not as large as today, and with their preference for introducing hypercoasters to parks outside Cedar Point at the time led to picking D.H. Morgan for building Wild Thing, Steel Force, and Mamba at about $10 million each. It was not until 1999 when B&M and Intamin introduced their hypercoasters for sale, starting at $20 million each. (Millennium Force cost $25 million)

[@ethansmith9344]

wajdsuliman maclover lol I think rollercoasters cost a little more than $2 million